Battle of the Ports - Paper Boy (ペーパーボーイ) Show
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This has been one of the most requested shows I get mails about so it's finally here. Let's take a look at Paperboy!
Time Code
00:25 - Arcade
02:06 - MS Dos
03:05 - Amiga
04:26 - BBC Micro / Acorn Electron
05:55 - Apple ][
06:57 - Commodore Plus 4 / C16
08:14 - Amstrad CPC (Spanish Release)
09:17 - Amstrad CPC (UK Release)
10:29 - ZX Spectrum
11:42 - Commodore 64
12:44 - Atari ST
13:43 - Master System
14:54 - Famicom / NES
16:16 - Mega Drive
17:25 - Game Gear
18:26 - Gameboy
19:28 - Gameboy Colour
20:42 - Atari Lynx
22:15 - All versions side by side
Enjoy! - เกม
the fact that the Master System is nearly arcade perfect save for the sound effects and music is a damn miracle. It baffles me that so many other 8 bit ports didn’t get the same kind of attention.
Master Syster and Game Gear Tiertex version has a Moon Patrol music! LOL!
I thought it sounded familiar.
There's a speed button on the BBC version dude!
Larry Bundy Jr three is? I couldn't get it to work on my keyboard. I know the options say it's the * key but could I bollocks get it to work :(
Thx now I know
No you know nothing
I think the first time I saw Paperboy was on the BBC kids TV quiz show, First Class with Debbie Greenwood 😍
Oh wow, I remember that.
I grew up on the C64 version. I loved it, especially the music.
C64 games are like Sega games. The game can be bad, but the music us guaranteed to be good.
It was really good. Can't blame gaming incompetence always to the game being too difficult imo. Play it it a couple of times and you'll learn (like you should on a home port)
Every C64 tape traded around the schoolgrounds back in the day seemed to have Paperboy on it.
It was a classic.
The DOS version is just the same as the UK Amstrad port ! Wow !
Now that is pure lazy programming.
Amiga, Genesis, Master System/Game Gear, and Lynx versions are the best aside from the arcade. I actually love the extra control in the Genesis port. I don't know why some hate it as it doesn't make it easier per-say. And the Amiga version seems more annoying in an already annoying game, but maybe Paperboy experts might like that.
One of the few games I had for the Gameboy. One of my favorites! Great video!
When I was a kid, I had no idea that "Paperboy" was originally an arcade game from the 1980s because I remember it being released for the NES and Game Boy.
I guess there's many people in the states who would think that. The NES was massive over there.
one of the most interesting episodes of Battle of the Ports so far. awesome man awesome
Bardia cheers man. Glad you liked the show. Any suggestions to what else you'd like to see?
The more platforms, the more interesting it gets
actually if you threw the paper in the right spot the non customers would become customers....... also you got bonus points for vandlizing non buyers houses which became bonus time in the course at the end
I always thought the road worker with the drill in the C64 version resembled a dancing Postman Pat...
☺️It does a little now that you mention it.
Personally I love the Mega-Drive/Genesis version the best, and the better Paperboy 2
OMG my childhood, i had both NES and GameBoy versions and was really tough to beat the game until Sunday lol, great port battle (Y)
Even AVGN agree with that because he did review on NES version
I'm really impressed with how well the Amiga port was done since this is my first time seeing it in action for that platform. My personal favorite is the Genesis port and I spent a fairly good amount of time with the Sega Master System version as well. But after seeing this video it's just begging for a Paperboy 2 Battle Of The Ports lol. :D
Yeah, the Amiga port is very well done. I was really surprised at how good it was.
Hmm, Paperboy 2? All I remember about that is the God awful SNES game. Please don't make me ay that again.
@@RetroCore The Genesis game doesn't look that bad. It might just be the SNES version that sucks.
Good to hear there are some good ports for the cpc! I had the good port back in the day. The silence never bothered me!
ManicTom C I guess so. Having a silent games back then wasn't uncommon.
The C64 music is amazing.
Even 11:48?
Paper boy looks like he has no pants or underwear on in the commondare 64 version.
Classic game, with plenty of good ports to choose from!
custardo sure is. I was surprised to see ports on the likes of the BBC Micro and the Commodore Plus 4. This game was ported to almost everything.
The Amiga version seemed to split the UK press, some claiming it was arcade perfect 🙄 where as others said the coin-op was mediocre to start with and questioning why Elite choose to release a 5 year old title on the Amiga.
I really hate reviews claiming home conversions were Arcade Perfect or played just like the Arcade version, when they had changes made and controls were off.
C+VG were the only magazine I saw who had the honesty to tell people the gameplay had been altered in the Amiga version and Elite were charging far too much, for such an old title.
The ZX Spectrum version may have monochrome graphics, but it scrolls much smoother than the rest of the 8 bit versions AND plays really well too IMO.
Nice, glad to see this one covered, man this was on a ton of systems. Guess I'll check out the Genesis version(and Master system if possible). Also I hope you do Paper Boy 2.
mitu123Copper you'll be surprised at how good the Master System version is. The MD one is also great but does feel different when playing.
The obstacle course music sounds straight out of Marble Madness
Oh man, Who doesn't love them some Paperboy?
Andrew Vrba so true. It's a classic although I'm not very good at it.
Retro Core Paperboy, Battlezone, Star Wars. They might have got their start ripping off Ralph Baer, but boy they made some great games...and then the buyout happened.
Not trying to start a fight or anything, but personally I don't think it's stood the test of time all too well. I mean I still play it once in a while but I certainly don't find it as fun as I did back when I was younger.
+Kandi Gloss
The opposite for me. Back then I thought it sucked (and was like "why this game is so popular?!") but I tend to like it more as time passes :)
Most Atari Games are classics for good reasons, with solid gameplay mechanics and overall genuine feel making them timeless: Paperboy and also Gauntlet, RoadBlasters, Marble Madness, Rampart...
I had the Genesis version or Mega Drive as you call it. I'm inspired to get it again!
LightBlue2222 Oh yes! And it controls even better than the Amiga and Arcade versions, best console port by far, plus the arcade graphics and sounds!
Paperboy is one of my favorite arcade games of all time, grew up on the NES version. But then I discovered the Genesis version and my love for it began all over again. Did you know Paperboy on the NES was the first US developed game for that system? And the same goes for the Master System except swap out US for UK. Well, at least according to Wikipedia
Digital Coin-Op yeah, I did read that about the NES and the Master System games. I'm so surprised that the Master System port turned out good considering who was behind the development.
Retro Core lol, so true
The reason for the British CPC port being silent Is probably due to the fact at least what I’ve heard programming CPC sound is really hard for some reason.
I’ve programmed several other systems like the amiga including its AGA variants, Atari line, and some Apple and Nintendo systems, but gosh. The Amiga can do so much more than even shown here.
With regards to your comment about the Spectrum version not being “a looker”, colour would have had to have been limited because otherwise there would have been ghastly colour-clash all over the place. The important thing is that it plays well, is fast and you can clearly see what’s going on.
That's true
I think before the advent of VGA, a lot of EGA DOS games (particularly with multi-axis scrolling) had choppy tile scrolling, maybe due to lack of video memory for page flipping, or enough RAM for a framebuffer. I've also seen this on the original Duke Nukem.
Sega master system wins because it’s like the arcade except no voice acting other than that best port
Watching the Amiga port, one thing I did notice the was presence of fences placed over sidewalks. That was never in the arcade version and it comes off a bit annoying how they put them there, but as you said, it seems to make the game harder.
Yep. This is one of the points which make this a tough game.
@@RetroCore Even the NES port wasn't that cruel!
Christopher Sobieniak And that is why the best version in my opinion is the SEGA Mega-Drive/Genesis version! I need to get it for my Super Retro Trio +
One thing I found creepy about this game is why do people houses have headstones it just creepy
Although not shown here, Paperboy also showed up on the Gameboy Advance and a few arcade classic compilations for later consoles.
Christopher Sobieniak true but they are emulated. Well maybe not the GBA version. I didn't actually know it made it to the GBA
Retro Core Yeah the GBA version really isn't emulated. A lot of classic games on there usually were fabricated as close as possible but there were often noticeable differences.
Used to play the NES version too much as I had owned the cart!
I wish I had known about the GBA port. Would have added it then :(
Retro Core The Atari ports that came out for the GBA are quite interesting on their own. Remember finding those on the shelves of Rite-Aid a decade ago.
Played this on Amstrad CPC back in the day.Had the UK Elite port I didn't know that a Spanish version was released.For it's time the best 8 bit version(not including the consoles ports).A sequel was released a year later(Elite) that was a great dissapointment.
David Fernández Sabio I'm so happy Elite did right by the machine. They showed just what the CPC can do. Shame about that lack of audio though.
The Spanish one is an unofficial homebrew that came out a few years ago.
And while the MD version of Paperboy is pretty good too.. but I had Paperboy 2 for the system and its *so* much better :)
Paperboy 2 was on the Mega Drive? I didn't know that. I remember the SNES version being awful though. I'll have to look on to that. May do Paperboy 2 at some point soon :)
Yeah, I had an original cartridge back at the day :) It was a lot of fun.
Retro Core Paperboy 2 was not released in arcades and this series focuses on arcade games
Tiertex doing a good port? I'm certain that on that day, was the first signal of the incoming Apocalypse.
Lol, maybe they paid someone to make it for them?
Is it me, or is the main level music on the SMS and GG ports the theme from Moon Patrol? Also, the pseudo-emulated version for PS1 on "Midway Presents Arcade's Greatest Hits: the Atari Collection 2" and two other arcade compilations by Midway (Midway Collection 2 and Arcade Party Pak) will only partially-work on a PS2 (mainly component or RGB) if video settings are set to arcade resolution. Common problem with Midway's retro compilations, as it had games which originally ran on 24KHz monitors (meaning games like PaperBoy on APP would run in 480i). When I get home from out of state, I'll test over composite and s-video and see if the result is the same.
I loved the C64 version back in the day but now I see it lacks colors, however I didn't care at the time!
Lord Alfajor that's the thing. Stuff we thought was cool back then now may not seem so great. There's been many a time I've put a Master System game on and thought "I'm sure this looked better back then "
Whilst the Acorn Electron version is really poor looking back at it now, I really enjoyed it back in the day.
LeShark75 back in the day it was quite good to be honest. Especially compared to other games on the system.
My fav was always the cpc version.
Paperboy was one of the first C64 games I played so I still have a soft spot for that version. Infact I found it for 20p in a junk shop lately so picked it up again (with a bunch of others).
MadGaz85 for 20p you can't go wrong for a bit of nostalgia.
Also found New Zealand Story, Wonder Boy, Kwik Snax and World Class Leaderboard in the same shoebox, along with a crap ton of demo tapes (didn't bother with the latter).
Nice haul. Sometimes it's great to go to junk shops.
Tiertex used a company known as Blue Turtle for the sound and graphics on the Master System version, they blame the limited cart size for not being able to squeeze all the arcade screens in.
They had the coin op as a reference and every other home conversion available at that point.
They also had Mike Hutchinson on their staff, who's coded the CPC version.
That explains why this isn't a train wreck on the Master System. If Tiertex had ported the game themselves it would be far worse. Personally, I think the Master System port is rather good.
I loved this one on my amstrad. :)
The dos version is a cpc port, that's really weird.
connardman really? Wow, I never knew that and yes, that is very strange.
Any one know what that funky rap song is at the start of the video?
actually i see some resemblance of apple ii to the commodore plus 4
WOW! Tiertex in actually very good game shock!
Alright!!!
Nice choice of Paperboy Mark.
He faces the daily evils of TV journalism and still collects his weekly paycheck. *^).
My favorite versions are the arcade and the NES. I still play both regularly and its my families favorite fun title to play.
Nice job as always Mark. Thank you for sharing this with us!
Anthony...
Charlie Cat is been putting off doing this one for a while as I knew it would take ages to play through all the ports then do the write ups. I must have started this one about 10 days ago.
Retro Core
Wow. Amazing Mark. You certainly put the dedication into it for sure. Glad you did and was worth it with excellent results. 8^)
Thank you again Mark.
Anthony..
I actually prefer the japanese portrait over the US portrait.
That's quite often the case.
@@RetroCore Particularly the Famicom version.
the voice in paperboy arcade remind me that in intellivision bomb squad
retrovideogamejunkie its pretty similar I guess.
i mean, it seems they used the same method to sintecize the voice ...or somethin
It's probably using the same chip style to produce the voices.
About the Plus/4 version:
- it has been coded to run on C16, that means the game only uses a very limited memory on Plus/4;
- you've run Paperboy+, a hack which includes a (not so good) converted C64 picture in the very beginning.
So, if you run the unhacked version on the plus 4, does it still move as smoothly? I wonder what is the most impressive Plus 4 game out there?
Oh man, I've got to get on that. Looks great.
The Plus 4 was my first ever computer. It came with a set of generic white covered tapes too including Tresure Island. I think the game I played the most on it was Tutti Fruity. I remember killing a joystick with Street Olympics :(
@@RetroCore May be a shameless plug, but recording Commodore 16 and Plus/4 games is what I happen to do! (when I feel like it) You may look around over here. C16 gems, Plus4 bootleg attepts, Plus4 homebrew goodness, and more!
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I have the arcade version on Midway Arcade Classics (PS2). The best home ports are NES, GB, GBA and Genesis in my opinion.
Is the UK CPC version based on the DOS version ? It looks a lot like the DOS port :) (and yes, it looks great for the CPC)
Un gran clásico
Is it me or does the Master Systems main game tune sound more like Moon Patrol than Paper Boy?
i was hoping you would do paperboy. theres so many ports of this game its crazy
xmanooo7 I'm glad you enjoyed the show. I'd been putting this one off due to the amount of ports but in the end I got around to doing it.
Well that explains why I never liked Paperboy, I only ever played the C64 version. I don't think I ever managed to beat the assault course at the end!
Maybe I should give one of the better versions a chance to convert me? ;)
photographboy oh man, of you only ever played the C64 version I can fully understand why you don't like Paperboy. I was surprised at how crappy the C64 version is.
Play the Megadrive-Port! It's the best Version of this Game.
Seems like the Amiga port likes to give you too many blocked off sidewalks. The first I learned of "Paperboy" was the C64 port my brother used to play alot. I don't know if that port was sold in the US as this was a copied floppy my brother had it on, but I do recall the music/action being a lot faster I guess because of the 60Hz we got over here, it just sounds pretty slow seeing it emulated on TH-cam, wishing someone would do it in 60Hz!
Christopher Sobieniak I guess most C64 software was designed with 50htz in mind apart from the odd few games that were developed in the US.
Retro Core Oh I'm sure. It just didn't seem noticeable over here as most games were pretty frantic to start with. My brother never really bought his games, and often relied on friends to send him floppies that had 3 or 4 games added for each diskette. I recall a few titles like Comic Bakery, Karateka, Ghosts 'n Goblins, Green Beret and perhaps Alien. I remember thinking Paperboy had a pretty killer soundtrack listening through the C64 monitor (that fancy one with the composite inputs up front).
Retro Core My brother mostly hogged the c64 to print out stuff from "The Print Shop" or faux business type apps.
Wow, so many ports! I think the Amiga version looks the best, megadrive second.
Yes, it's nice to see the Amiga being used as it should for once when it comes to arcade ports.
Megadrive first...
Damn its true, what the heck, the SMS version has the Moon Patrol music!!!!! I didn't remember this!
I didn't know the SMS version was made by tiertex . I remember playing back at the day and really enjoyed it. Who would say a Tiertex game could actually be good.
The SMS version is probably the 2nd best home port, behind the Amiga one.
I recon Tiertex had outsourced the game to another developer or just happened to have hired someone with talent at the time Master System Paperboy was made.
I had this game on sega master system
No you didn't.
A copy of the master system port was a present for my 11th birthday. It was an enjoyable surprise! Still have it....
The spanish Amstrad port makes me feel ashamed
Javier Bosch to be fair, the Spanish Amstrad port is what you'd expect from the CPC. It's just that the Elite version is so good it makes the Spanish version look awful.
Wow! Not one but TWO competent Andreas versions? Good grief!
NES is still my favorite version. Better than the arcade IMO.
I used to play Paperboy 2, which is more an enhanced version than a proper sequel IMHO, a lot on the MD. And much like Hard Drivin' (funny considering they were both by Tengen), I had a blast vandalizing everything instead of playing the game properly (one of the reasons being that my English was severely limited at the time). In fact, I didn't start playing Paperboy as it should be until recent years!
I'm thinking of doing Paper Boy 2 some time soon on Battle Of The Ports.
what is the name of this musician from the beginning of the video?
I'm afraid I don't know.
That apple 2 version tho....
Mega Drive, then Amiga, then Master System
there's also the N64 version of paperboy don't forget about it!
Jermarcus Robinson different game I'm afraid so I left it out of this video. It's also pretty awful from what I remember.
I think you were judging these games the wrong way around! The arcade has a bicycle steering wheel as the controller which makes it pretty hard to control. All the versions that "lag" or whatever are trying to emulate that. The ones that respond perfectly are the bad ports :-)
oh also Mark I have a question man...Whats the best Commodore 64 game you've ever played?
Bardia the best C64 game I've ever played? Oh man, I really couldn't say. There's that many great games for it. I wish I could pick one but I can't
Java Version called Paper Boy Wheels on Fire
Err? I don't know if you noticed, but you can slow down in the C64 version to avoid obstacles! It is probably one of the easier versions. I have beaten it long ago, altough I don't remember if it was with the endless life trainer turned on. Recently when I tried I could get up to Thursday level with no cheating and two days of perfect delivery for the first try.
Westwurtzli yes, I do know that but that's not the problem. The collision detection is what annoyed me the most. It's possible to be hit by stuff even when you are clearly not near it.
The computer was called the Electron, Acorn made it.
StoicVampire Pig yep, that's right. The Acorn version is 100% identical to the BBC Micro release.
The point I'm making is the BBC was made by acorn too...so why don't you call that version acorn/acorn?
StoicVampire Pig o don't know. We always called it a BBC Micro in school so I still call it that. Same way some people say Sinclair for Speccy while others say ZX.
Oh no! You missed the Playstation version with neGcon support!
You didn't even mention the awful collision detection in the NES version?
its paper boy, i play the nes version but its hard as hell
I bet you were sick of Paperboy after getting through that lot.
I think I still have the Amiga version in the loft, once it becomes a game you could play anytime you wanted rather than once a week the novelty of Paperboy wears off a bit. So despite the Amiga version being decent I didn't put a lot of time into it, there's no new content to see after a few runs, it's strictly an old school score/challenge game.
John S oh yeah, I was so fed up of if after making this show. The game just lacks variety but then again it is an arcade game designed for a quick blast.
John S Great Amiga port, but yeah it does get tiresome after a while...
Great video RetroCore, as usual!
By far the Lynx was the most accurate. I remember being disappointed one port after another as there never really was anything as good as the Lynx. The Genesis, and C64 versions really were the worst of them all.
Are you crazy? The Genesis version is practically arcade perfect!
Zaxxon Battle of the Ports is long overdue 😉
One day it will come :) it is on the to do list.
Is the MS-DOS version in lowres CGA?
The world and his friend got a port of this but not the PC Engine! Why not,do you know?
Arcadiality probably because the PC Engine was basically a Japanese only system. I doubt NEC cared much about the US sales. It's true that the consoles barb the Lynx are also Japanese but they were also popular in the West. You'll notice there are no Japanese computer ports either.
well the commodore 64 has good music. 🤷
yeah definitely an iconic game huh.
i wonder if this game will be redone again, i have felling someone will remake it.
the idea for this game is brilliant when ya think about it.
I reckon with the Tiertex Master System port, they had a kid on work experience do the programming who went back to his paper round afterwards.
11:48 Sounds like bootleg rave
17:03 Cat's Kinda Big Isn't It?😂
😁 Just a little
Weird that the Commodore 64 version has a coloured Paperboy instead of the normal white Paperboy?
It does? I didn't even notice.
The C64's limited color palette was interesting
Mark - It's all very subjective I know but I found quite a few BBC Micro games, while looking inferior to other popular 8 bit ones, actually played rather brilliantly.
I'd say Paperboy looks like the bastard child result of a Sinclair Spectrum having drinks with an original Game Boy.
Jason Tennant you're right about BBC Micro games looking poor but playing well. It may be the rise tinted glasses speaking here but I remember having loads of fun playing some basic 2 player game that used the keyboard called Dogfight. It was as simple as you could get but we loved it.
What's the song name in 0:07?
There's actually an Apple IIgs version as well, and guess what? It's literally identical to the Apple II version except with more colors. Extremely lazy.
Lol, typical
How could Atari go under when they were making original off beat classics like this?
More morons than talent I guess.
You called the MS DOS version for being too zoomed in but when your second Amstrad version did it you liked it? I don't understand your reasoning behind this
Different systems have different abilities. The DOS version should have been better than the CPC. The CPC is a much weaker system.
@@RetroCore I understand that but rating both versions, they are far too zoomed in to be playable. I had the Spectrum version and later the Lynx and thought they were great
A Game Boy Advance version was not contained･･･
Sorry, I didn't know this was also on the GBA.
There exists a GBA port of this game, which shares the same cartridge with a remake of Rampage.
While I like the port, others don't, and I can kinda see why. The music can get pretty annoying. The GBA was capable of better sound quality. Speaking of sound, it does contain voice samples from the original game, but some of them sound out of place, such as saying "One less customer" when he breaks a window, even if it's the window of a non-subscrober. The hit detection can be a little wonky at times, and the bike veers to the right a-la Desert Bus. Also, the game has some glitches, such as being able to pass through houses, and actually being able to exceed the game's boundaries in some areas.
I still like the port, though. What do you think?
I wasn't aware of that version. It would have been nice to add it to the show.
te falta la de Apple IIgs
I'm guested the mobile version is missing.
I. Didn't know there was a mobile version.
Shame that Tiertex manage to make something competent with Paperboy but for Strider and Strider Returns they sucked a lot.
They were also behind the impressive Master System versions of Gauntlet and Impossible Mission, hard to believe when you look at the bulk of their work.
@@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 To be fair, Gary Priest was helping through the majority of Impossible Mission
Seriously off target with your appraisal of the BBC/Acorn version I'm afraid. It's woeful in every way.
Atari were certainly clever in their approach to game design back in the day. I bet there were a few at Atari that said "How can we release a game where the player is constricted to the lower bottom right hand corner of the screen for much of the game? And when you're not there, you're racing for an ever smaller area in the top right hand corner of the screen!" I like how Atari made something mundane and turned it into a bright, fun and playable game. But not on the BBC. I played the CPC version back in the day and I have to say it was one of my favourite games.
Jason Tennant watching the video the BBC version does look slow but it's very playable, especially when you consider how primitive most BBC games look.
I was just thinking the same thing. The BBC version runs slower than the Apple version, so not sure why you gave it praise.
I like the Atari st version
which part audio, graphics, music, sound, visuals?
@@jasonlee7816 Woooooooowwwwwww