@@ROXFRANCES women are not suppose to be pastors, ministers, priest, bishops, ushers or anything else in Church except for being there to worshipthe Lord. There fixed it for you
@@markpratt845 sin and repent Luke warm he will spit you out Revelation 3 15-16 it's not my words it's what written in God's word. People get upset when you speak the truth. I'm just the messenger.
FBC 👏👏👏♥️it‼️ to the other church pasture should be removed from her position. The Bible does call us to love one another, but it doesn’t call us to accept sin into our lives. As a pastor, she has a very huge responsibility to follow the Bible not to make up her own.
The thing is, you either do or you don't. A church has authority/responsibility over it's congregation so they Must stay grounded. And growing up as a Baptist. Baptist Church doctirne is NOT the same as the non denominational church doctrine. The Baptist is a lot more strict, and firm and traditional. At least they used to be when i was a kid. The non denominational goes with the flow and very politically correct so as to not offend anyone. So why are ppl expecting the Baptist church to operate like the non denominational? So, despite the risks of offending others, being politically incorrect, or being called a bigot. At least you're firm and you know what you believe in. I think people eventually have more respect those who stand firm in their beliefs than the ones bowing down to everyone all over the place.
The bible is crystal clear, in Genesis God made man and he made woman. Biological truth, anything else is a mental disorder! Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Romans 1:27 and in the same way also the men turned away from the natural function of the woman and were consumed with their desire toward one another, men with men committing shameful acts and in return receiving in their own bodies the inevitable and appropriate penalty for their wrongdoing.
So we should label, judge and condemn people who have a 'mental disorder!' SHAME ON YOU! Plenty of straights out there that are on the cusp or been diagnosed with a mental disorder. Leviticus is old-Jewish law literally written by the Levites. Roman's is talking about these mortifying actions in public or with multiple partners see your KJV, and Greek translations. Love in any capacity of a monogamous relationship should be accepted as long as it's love. Jesus' words "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." -Mark 12:30-31 KJV Also see..Galatians 3:26-29, here's verse 28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus"
The mission of the church is preach the Gospel, call people to repent of their sins including homosexuality and acceptance of the righteousness offered by Christ.
That's all well and good until the church comes asking for more from the members who stayed to make up for the shortfall in funds from the former members that left. Then you will really see how scared they are of losing money. Wonder if the pastor would be willing to take a pay cut if that happens?
@@kennethsouthard6042But instead, God brings those He is edifying out of the synagogues of Satan, of which there are plenty in Jacksonville, and replenishes the pews!! All glory to God! Who works al things together for the good of those who love Him! Who serve Him and not Mammon!
Amen, come as you are and after you believe in Jesus repent and turn from your a sinful lifestyle. They can’t be a member but all Christian churches invite all to listen to the messages and worship, but why would they want to, if the messages are what they consider homophobic. Being Christian is to be morally accountable to God and if a church isn’t exercising that they need to repent and examine themselves in the faith or they will hear Jesus say “depart from me I never knew you, you worker of lawlessness.” Psalms 1-2 “1Blessed is the man Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly, Nor stands in the path of sinners, Nor sits in the seat of the scornful; 2But his delight is in the law of the Lord, And in His law he meditates day and night.”
That girl is so wrong she ither knows it and ignore it or shes lgbt her self,if you want to be save you must take the cross and live by obedience to the word and commantments of God,we are save by grace yes,but when u come to Jesus we give up this world and fallow him,...if jesus would not do it i will not do it ither....😢😢😢❤❤❤
What we see here are two very different churches. FBC being one which stands on the whole Word of God. The other? Willing to bend, and therefore break, by not being bold enough to preach the unadulterated Word of God. You do not have to be a member at FBC to be welcomed , on any given day. The Word is promising, loving, caring, kind, BUT JUST AS MUCH, also bold, never-changing, and offensive (to sin). In a day when a LOT of churches just preach the "feel good" message, thank you GOD for your people who preach that we are damned and need The Savior, Jesus. Selah
While First Baptist is at it, why don't they make their members sign a document against lying, adultery, boasting, arrogance, complaining, etc. Point being, no sin is greater than the other except one - blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Jesus emphasized two things: redemption through Him and love everyone, even your enemies.
Helllla Bigotry...FBC probably ate some bacon for breakfast & gonna eat some ham for dinner after signing that POS paper...hypocrites gonna hypocrite 😂😂😂
Is this the same First Baptist that spent over 50 years successfully lobbying to slow down growth in downtown, that other cities which are smaller have much more vibrant downtown settings.
Okay First Coast News, be inclusive with your reporting and also report about how unfair it is that non-straights are not welcome at all three of the Islamic centers in Jax. Make sure you send one of your liberal reporters or even Ms. Dickie over to one of their centers and accuse them of being non-inclusive. I'd pay to watch that exchange.
The entire congregation voted yes to this doctrine so there's no reason to sign anything, since they all agree, except to make the news and a political statement. This church should have tax exemption removed.
@@sirgus8727 Have you heard about the wealth of guys like Joel Osteen for example? Many of those pastors own private jets. If they can afford airplanes they sure can afford to pay property taxes on their church.
I am very proud of this church for taking a stand against this as I think ALL churches and different denominations should do. It’s seems that “religions “ have a free for all attitude toward sin …ALL sin and it breaks my heart. I know our father is grieved. The world doesn’t understand real love and doesn’t understand our father is not going to put up with this kind of behavior and disrespect without repercussions. “ Give a man enough rope and he’ll hang himself”…Well it’s happening right before our eyes. I’m so thankful that I came to know Christ when I did and He took me under his wing and taught me real love so I have no problem refraining from such a thing as this. God is good all the time. No matter what we have to go through in this life is nothing compared to eternity. I praise God for that comfort.
It’s not our objective to exclude anyone from the kingdom of GOD but at the same time it’s Gods will that ALL mankind come to repentance and live harmoniously with GOD and each other as best we can. It doesn’t happen over night to be totally perfect but as we read and study GODS word we will know the perfect will of GOD and NO person will be able to deceive us into thinking wrong is right and right is wrong. God help us all. We are all a mess without Christ Jesus in our life through the POWER of the HOLY SPIRIT….
@@lucasinthehouse007 Jesus spoke about husband and wife, not husband and husband, and The Bible is plainly clear about killing. Jesus never mentioned kidnapping. Are we to assume kidnapping is acceptable?
just open your doors and preach Jesus Christ. Those that don't want to hear about Him will eventually leave. Do what you are supposed to do so that you don't remain in God's way.
This imaginary speech is the same as the homosexual community does. This church is telling the world to repent and turn from wickedness. This is being Loving, not they don't homosexuals are hell bound.
@@briarpatchson3039 We love you, too bad you're going to burn. Yeah, real loving this 'god' of theirs is. Worship me, or you're going to suffer for eternity. Keep your god, because I don't want any part of it.
@royal priest Aw, hon. That's so sweet. I'm an atheist. Your religion is nothing but trash. Or, more importantly, people like you make it trash. You don't even follow the whole book, but cherry pick the parts you want to apply, and those are usually to the lives of others. Anyway, enjoy your fairy tales, but keep them out of my life.
1:35 this woman know nothing about bible she the pastor because bible teach should only be married to one man and one woman it teach against having more then one wife or husband
It's not really the best look for a church to force its members to sign a statement. Religious beliefs and faith are personal and is solely between a person and God. It's not right when government tries to interfere with that and it's equally unjust when churches themselves attempt to do it.
who said force? He's clear they are being clear. It's literally what Christians have believed for 1000s of years. It's the crazy alphabet mafia that's forcing people with their drag shows, rainbow flags, and constant hang up on acceptance
@@soundlysouth2962 a prayer is different than signing a paper as paper wasn't around yet. Ever hear of papyrus? Only the rich could afford that, so you are saying god only cares about the rich. Maybe your right and have changed my mind. Greed is good
@@ZacLowing loyalty oath was the question.... not, "did Christ require written essays , on paper, to follow Him" .... bottom line, the prayer of Salvation is not JUST a prayer.... it is THE PRAYER .... as a lost sinner, once I asked God to save my soul, pledge my life to Him, and give me the Holy Spirit, I WAS COMPLETELY CHANGED. I FELT ALIVE like no other time .... Joy, Peace, Understanding ALL came to me like never before....like I was "Born Again". Being a Christian is very much a loyalty oath, not sure fire insurance. once we know the truth and light, we cannot turn back. Blessings to you. 🙏
I am not signing any paper to be in a faith community or a religion. I was in a church that did this it became cult and the church split and started throwing out anyone the pastor did not feel did him homage.
It's a church, freedom of religion gives them the right, I 100% agree with the church.... If it was muslims or Jews no one would bat an eye...Why do gays can have people be dedicated to them but Christians can't???
They can also kick out anyone that doesn't follow the ten commandments based on those religious beliefs. Look it up if you're not aware of what that is.
1: news like looking at the biggest religion to get a good buck 2:Christians have more political power figuratively and literally when it comes to religion. I'm serious as America is mostly made up of Christians and can protest bending those those ruled for their favor over others. 3:there are MANY people dedicated to Christians alittle more then LGBT, it just that the many support both sides and support what seems more fair between both parties. Example if there was a law going for anti gay marriage people who say no to that law. Though if there was a law to stop religion stop people putting religion in ads to donate the law would be dropped because it would be unfair as well. Then we just have haters who just side with anyone against a group they dint make a significant proportion just an annoying amount. I tried my best at explaining this is from what I seen at least and what they do for most part.
I defy anyone to find for me the word "homosexuality" in the Bible. I then ask you to describe to me how Jesus would turn people (yes, gay people ARE God's children) away from Christianity. Thirdly, just as we do not keep all early Israel doctrine and laws today, why pick those that happen to purport hate and isolation that encourages youth to commit suicide? Let's look at the TOTALITY of the Bible through the lens of love and Jesus Christ. Then, all of this just goes away, and we can just see God and live under the two most important commandments -- Love the Lord with all your soul and heart and mind and Love your neighbor as yourself .
If you love God and humanity, you will preach the truth that saves souls. Don't cherry pick the word of God to suit you and throw out the rest. That will not help you or anyone else. If you think Jesus is ok with us continuing in sin, think again. He says, "Go your way, and sin no more." That's love, telling you to break the bondage of sin and walk in newness of life. Jesus came to save us and free us from everlasting torment and darkness which was created for the devil and his angels and will also be the place where all people go that do not surrender to God's loving will, which is that no one will perish. His burden is light and fulfilling and joyful. He's no tyrant. He's good, and he extends a free gift to us of salvation to believe in him. So please read your Bible and discover God's will for your life. Sin is sin and should be walked away from. Move forward with God's help.
They are not the Church but a form of Godliness denying the power. False teachers. Did Jesus ask the woman at the well to sign an oath? Jesus said to not make oaths. A bunch of hypocrites and charlatans hell bent on hate. When you believe you are a gatekeeper to the cross, your in big trouble.
Bigotry is you condoning this vile sinful lifestyle. If you love them, tell them the truth. Homosexuals need Jesus Christ, just like everyone else! But I get it, Homosexuals don't have to repent from their sin. Just the rest of us! This is Wickedness.
God said not to embrace sin. God created only one male and one female we should all respect god creation. Do not fall in satan’s deception and I notice his time is short so now he is pushing harder to destroy what god created.
Embrace, meaning to act as God and condemn others for their actions. Which in your next sentence you actually imply, as do most from your type of group-standpoint. On monogamous homosexuality take a look at these versus KJV Luke 20:33-35, Galations 3:26-29, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Then start with yourself. No higher power sits in judgment of us if it’s only ourselves who can guard against our obsessions. You are just using an outdated excuse inflict second class citizen treatment on a group of people who are different who don’t affect your way of life in anyway. You choose to let it affect you.
@@Quicknusiance 😎😎😎 (1) - We can and must also guard against other people's obsessions, especially when they effect our rights and freedoms...(2) - They effect our rights and freedoms because they are immoral and break down the family unit, which ensures a strong MAN or WOMAN "Identity " that fosters discipline and Mental Health through a strong individual identity and participation in the social structure that ensures virtue, strength, intelligence and order.
Its a private organization protected in more than one way by the First Amendment. Another private entity has the right to demand its members sign an oath that supports the agenda of the GBTQIAMAP&OP+ Community. OTH, "rules for thee, but not for me" is a sine qua non of that hate group.
As someone who been baptized at a Baptist church seeing these makes me sad. This is just discrimination, people come to church to learn ways of God, love others,and discipline ourselves. I feel feel sadden we still have some kind of discrimination these days God told to love one other yet we hardly do because of something unique about us.
@@davescott686 I see, well still kinda horrible that they still restrict marriage like this. Reminds me of Malachi 2:10-12 (its about a woman who loves a man but church doesn't allow it) which is kinda like this but more extreme as they say you can't marry a non believer. It's like a Christian wants to marry a Muslim might as well put that in effect if they want to limit it to heterosexual for members personal lives. For reals though it feels like they nitpick most of the time when it comes to these passages using all these small sections that's why I don't use the Bible as often and only in biblical settings.
@@davescott686 I'm confused on the strict rules on church members about marriage. Like why ban only lgbt marriage and not all condemned marriage. Again, Malachi 2:10-12 shows only a male believer and female believer of the same religion can be married yet members can marry others from different religions or ones that dont believe at all. So why just do that as well if you going to ban gay marriage for members as well?
Why don't those people get their church and pray to their god.... please do that !! They have a problem with Arthea Franklin song. I'M A NATURAL WOMAN. she was a natural woman. Trans wasn't made in the 60s and wasn't even thought of
On monogamous homosexuality take a look at these versus KJV Luke 20:33-35, Galations 3:26-29, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9-10@@sirgus8727 and above all Mark 12:28-31
Sure did! However, Galatians 3:26-29, here's verse 28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus"@@eleanormyers1274
Ha ha all the closet preachers preaching to one another. How about loving the Lord with all your heart, love your neighbor and mind your damned business and let God take care of the rest.
It really don't mean anything being a member of a earthly congregation or church. Because Jesus Christ was Jewish, but he never liked going to the synagogues because the religious leaders didn't except him. Just like what's going on now. A person can worship God, anywhere, place , or time. I would rather get me a beer, rather to give donations to a priest or pastor anyway.
Amen! "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus" Galatians 3:28, Apostle Paul, KJV the original version in English.
(L)et (G)od (B)urn (T)hem (Q)uickly. Jesus preached love but not love everything 😂 “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Revelation 21:8 KJV
Better look a these versus KJV again Mark 12:28-31 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. ... also see Luke 20:33-35, Galations 3:26-29, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
100% agree. It's not shameful how undeveloped this city it. I moved away to Charlotte in early 90s and lived there for almost 10 years and then 12 in Atlanta. Jacksonville today is the exact place I left in 1985 when I went away to college. Jacksonville leaders have allowed First Baptist Church to call the shots on development downtown. Jacksonville is a huge, little country town.
The mission of the church is NOT WHAT ONE WANTS IT TO BE, BUT THE MISSION OF THE CHURCH IS TO TEACH THE TRUTH AS REVEALED IN THE WORD OF GOD ALONE!
What a suprise a woman who thinks she is a pastor disagrees with the Bible.
unreal, huh?
Amen.
Actually she isn't even suppose to be a pastor in the first place it is Biblically forbidden
Women are not pastors . A man is a pastor
@@ROXFRANCES women are not suppose to be pastors, ministers, priest, bishops, ushers or anything else in Church except for being there to worshipthe Lord. There fixed it for you
The mission of the church is not "to love one another". It's to lead people to Christ so they can repent and be saved from eternal damnation.
I'd say that's love
The lady pastor (whoch is against the bible) has a social club not a Christian church.
Lady pastor can be pastor's, just not of men biblically, of course the same book points out the 'rocks will cry out' if no one else will.
Church mission is to save souls. I dont know what that lady was talk8ng about.
There's no luke warm you're either hot or cold
I keep my bath luke warm.
"All have sinned"...this includes you.
@@markpratt845 sin and repent Luke warm he will spit you out Revelation 3 15-16 it's not my words it's what written in God's word. People get upset when you speak the truth. I'm just the messenger.
@@markpratt845Those in Jesus no longer sin, we undergo edification and sanctification - if you’re still sinning then you aren’t in Christ.
FBC 👏👏👏♥️it‼️ to the other church pasture should be removed from her position. The Bible does call us to love one another, but it doesn’t call us to accept sin into our lives. As a pastor, she has a very huge responsibility to follow the Bible not to make up her own.
The thing is, you either do or you don't.
A church has authority/responsibility over it's congregation so they Must stay grounded. And growing up as a Baptist. Baptist Church doctirne is NOT the same as the non denominational church doctrine. The Baptist is a lot more strict, and firm and traditional. At least they used to be when i was a kid. The non denominational goes with the flow and very politically correct so as to not offend anyone. So why are ppl expecting the Baptist church to operate like the non denominational?
So, despite the risks of offending others, being politically incorrect, or being called a bigot. At least you're firm and you know what you believe in. I think people eventually have more respect those who stand firm in their beliefs than the ones bowing down to everyone all over the place.
The bible is crystal clear, in Genesis God made man and he made woman. Biological truth, anything else is a mental disorder!
Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Romans 1:27 and in the same way also the men turned away from the natural function of the woman and were consumed with their desire toward one another, men with men committing shameful acts and in return receiving in their own bodies the inevitable and appropriate penalty for their wrongdoing.
@William Oliver. Well said Bill. So simple, straight forward and undeniably the truth.
I agree with you Sir. You are absolutely right spot on.
So we should label, judge and condemn people who have a 'mental disorder!' SHAME ON YOU! Plenty of straights out there that are on the cusp or been diagnosed with a mental disorder. Leviticus is old-Jewish law literally written by the Levites.
Roman's is talking about these mortifying actions in public or with multiple partners see your KJV, and Greek translations. Love in any capacity of a monogamous relationship should be accepted as long as it's love.
Jesus' words "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these." -Mark 12:30-31 KJV
Also see..Galatians 3:26-29, here's verse 28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus"
The mission of the church is preach the Gospel, call people to repent of their sins including homosexuality and acceptance of the righteousness offered by Christ.
Every Christian church should do this.
That’s right!
Every church should NOT do this! Galations 3:26-29. Expeciallly, since your denomination declares the whole Bible is divine.
@@markpratt845 lgbtq should not be allowed to be church members because they aren't Christians.
It's about time a church is standing with God and not scared of losing money!!! Thank you
That's all well and good until the church comes asking for more from the members who stayed to make up for the shortfall in funds from the former members that left. Then you will really see how scared they are of losing money. Wonder if the pastor would be willing to take a pay cut if that happens?
@@kennethsouthard6042But instead, God brings those He is edifying out of the synagogues of Satan, of which there are plenty in Jacksonville, and replenishes the pews!! All glory to God! Who works al things together for the good of those who love Him! Who serve Him and not Mammon!
I suppose they can do what they want
Amen, come as you are and after you believe in Jesus repent and turn from your a sinful lifestyle. They can’t be a member but all Christian churches invite all to listen to the messages and worship, but why would they want to, if the messages are what they consider homophobic.
Being Christian is to be morally accountable to God and if a church isn’t exercising that they need to repent and examine themselves in the faith or they will hear Jesus say “depart from me I never knew you, you worker of lawlessness.”
Psalms 1-2
“1Blessed is the man
Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
Nor stands in the path of sinners,
Nor sits in the seat of the scornful;
2But his delight is in the law of the Lord,
And in His law he meditates day and night.”
also see The Table MLPS. More churches should be like this
Show me proof he’s real
That girl is so wrong she ither knows it and ignore it or shes lgbt her self,if you want to be save you must take the cross and live by obedience to the word and commantments of God,we are save by grace yes,but when u come to Jesus we give up this world and fallow him,...if jesus would not do it i will not do it ither....😢😢😢❤❤❤
Don't cry.,..that was excellent comment standing up for the Lord. 😂Lol
What we see here are two very different churches. FBC being one which stands on the whole Word of God. The other? Willing to bend, and therefore break, by not being bold enough to preach the unadulterated Word of God.
You do not have to be a member at FBC to be welcomed , on any given day. The Word is promising, loving, caring, kind, BUT JUST AS MUCH, also bold, never-changing, and offensive (to sin). In a day when a LOT of churches just preach the "feel good" message, thank you GOD for your people who preach that we are damned and need The Savior, Jesus. Selah
Wow, just like this pastor you clearly have your own inner turmoil with this issue for which you just need to grow a pair and deal with.
@@212Michael .... your comment is evidence why it is not wise to make assumptions on social media lol
I've read the Bible. Your Old Testament God- genocidal. Liked killing children. Liked slavery. Liked men having multiple wives. And so on.
@@homerth1555 thank God for the New Testament !! Jesus has come, defeated death, and lives. Every knee shall bow, and every tongue will confess !!
@@soundlysouth2962 Really? A do-over erases all the murdering that your make believe god did? Ridiculous.
I freaking love this!!! ❤❤❤❤
While First Baptist is at it, why don't they make their members sign a document against lying, adultery, boasting, arrogance, complaining, etc. Point being, no sin is greater than the other except one - blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Jesus emphasized two things: redemption through Him and love everyone, even your enemies.
Love is calling out evil being done by others. Not approving those evils,.
@@MISTER23G02xx you don’t have to approve , but you can pray for them
@@jennytaylor4968 did I say that one couldn't pray for them? Or even suggest that?
@@MISTER23G02xx "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone." - John 8:4
@@user-mx8nr3sp6n calling sin a sin is discernment. Arms are not required.
Then charge them taxes.
That's illegal religious discrimination.
@@sloppyjoes7 eye for an eye?
Why? Can't a church believe in the bible?
@@UnidadFamiliarCristiana if it keeps out of politics.
@@WorldWarIVXX An eye for an eye how?
An eye for an eye in this situation would be if LGBT groups didn't have to allow Christians to join.
Helllla Bigotry...FBC probably ate some bacon for breakfast & gonna eat some ham for dinner after signing that POS paper...hypocrites gonna hypocrite 😂😂😂
Sounds like they need to lose tax exemptions and be treated as a business with 0 write offs for the next few decades.
Yes!
Now if we can get all members of Congress to sign it, we'd be cruising .
GOOD FOR YOU .YES EVERY CHURCH SHOULD EMBRACE YOUR TEACHING .GOD WANTS A CLEAN CHURCH/
In the end it will not matter what gender you are. Galations 3:28 .."there is neither male nor female." What say you now?
I pray that they hold True to the Word of God!
First Baptist don't PUNK OUT!
STAND ON THE BIBLE!
Highly agree
Is this the same First Baptist that spent over 50 years successfully lobbying to slow down growth in downtown, that other cities which are smaller have much more vibrant downtown settings.
Yes. Both are great moves.
Okay First Coast News, be inclusive with your reporting and also report about how unfair it is that non-straights are not welcome at all three of the Islamic centers in Jax. Make sure you send one of your liberal reporters or even Ms. Dickie over to one of their centers and accuse them of being non-inclusive. I'd pay to watch that exchange.
Oh good. Christians and Islam are reaching parity.
@@sadjaxx Well, that's their goal of inclusion. It's all supposed to magically work out.
Are Islamic centers having people sign a document?... I didn't think so...
that'll NEVER happen, Christians are always the ones being picked apart....as if they don't understand freedom of religion
@@dalearnold4139 the point being for the mosques that ARE.... you'll never hear about it.
Amen ! A great move ! 1:22
Finally, a church leader with some guts to speak the truth.
Check out John macarthur. You'll be shocked
@@UnidadFamiliarCristiana Thanks
The entire congregation voted yes to this doctrine so there's no reason to sign anything, since they all agree, except to make the news and a political statement. This church should have tax exemption removed.
The church still supports the city of Jacksonville!!!
All mega churches should have to pay taxes. They can afford it.
@@dvferyance So how would you know?
@@sirgus8727 Have you heard about the wealth of guys like Joel Osteen for example? Many of those pastors own private jets. If they can afford airplanes they sure can afford to pay property taxes on their church.
I am very proud of this church for taking a stand against this as I think ALL churches and different denominations should do. It’s seems that “religions “ have a free for all attitude toward sin …ALL sin and it breaks my heart. I know our father is grieved. The world doesn’t understand real love and doesn’t understand our father is not going to put up with this kind of behavior and disrespect without repercussions. “ Give a man enough rope and he’ll hang himself”…Well it’s happening right before our eyes. I’m so thankful that I came to know Christ when I did and He took me under his wing and taught me real love so I have no problem refraining from such a thing as this. God is good all the time. No matter what we have to go through in this life is nothing compared to eternity. I praise God for that comfort.
reread your fiction before drinking the narrative koolaid
The great commission is to bring people to Christ. This goofy is doing the opposite.
Not true! Just want you to have eyes to see and ears to hear of the wonderful things GOD has prepared for those that love him
It’s not our objective to exclude anyone from the kingdom of GOD but at the same time it’s Gods will that ALL mankind come to repentance and live harmoniously with GOD and each other as best we can. It doesn’t happen over night to be totally perfect but as we read and study GODS word we will know the perfect will of GOD and NO person will be able to deceive us into thinking wrong is right and right is wrong. God help us all. We are all a mess without Christ Jesus in our life through the POWER of the HOLY SPIRIT….
They can bring them to Christ! Not inside the church as a member!!! Can Not be a member! Didn’t say not invited
First Baptist lost the message of Christ, if they ever had it. No wonder it's a dying church.
Direct me to that verse where Jesus promoted homosexuality.
@@buildthewallwiththewoke It’s right next to the one where he condemned it
@@buildthewallwiththewoke Show me in the bible a verse that Jesus wrote? Or that he could read or write at all?
@@johnperic6860 The Bible was written by other people and is a work of fiction.
@@lucasinthehouse007 Jesus spoke about husband and wife, not husband and husband, and The Bible is plainly clear about killing. Jesus never mentioned kidnapping. Are we to assume kidnapping is acceptable?
just open your doors and preach Jesus Christ.
Those that don't want to hear about Him will eventually leave.
Do what you are supposed to do so that you don't remain in God's way.
Membership is different than simple attendance to church services.
Amen
That's great if you are ok with it ,you stay if not you leave
As they should!!
That's why the bible teaches independent churches without a head or a pope ruining it from the top. Because if one falls, all will fall into heresy.
Bigots gonna be bigots.
This imaginary speech is the same as the homosexual community does.
This church is telling the world to repent and turn from wickedness.
This is being Loving, not they don't homosexuals are hell bound.
@@briarpatchson3039 We love you, too bad you're going to burn. Yeah, real loving this 'god' of theirs is. Worship me, or you're going to suffer for eternity. Keep your god, because I don't want any part of it.
@royal priest Sad to see people like you turn a supposed religion of love and peace into something hateful.
@royal priest Aw, hon. That's so sweet. I'm an atheist. Your religion is nothing but trash. Or, more importantly, people like you make it trash. You don't even follow the whole book, but cherry pick the parts you want to apply, and those are usually to the lives of others.
Anyway, enjoy your fairy tales, but keep them out of my life.
The lgbt mafia? Definitely. They are the biggest haters of all. Anyone who disagrees with them are instantly their enemy.
1:35 this woman know nothing about bible she the pastor because bible teach should only be married to one man and one woman it teach against having more then one wife or husband
It's not really the best look for a church to force its members to sign a statement. Religious beliefs and faith are personal and is solely between a person and God. It's not right when government tries to interfere with that and it's equally unjust when churches themselves attempt to do it.
who said force? He's clear they are being clear. It's literally what Christians have believed for 1000s of years. It's the crazy alphabet mafia that's forcing people with their drag shows, rainbow flags, and constant hang up on acceptance
True multiple spouses is Old Testament. The Bible clearly states no homosexuality! Bending it for popularity is blasphemous.
WWJD❤❤❤❤
The bigotry in these comments is hysterical
For real though. If they would go listen to First Baptist's actual pastor instead of the news...
I know right, not only that but they're ignorance as well.
7th Day Adventists in the 1880's had a "Purity Pledge"
That is so awesome! It’s about time that Christians stop putting up with the godless perverts!
more straight people are perverts, you were saying?😂😂😂
This is crazy. When do the tortures start? The new Inquisition!
Did Christ require loyalty oaths?
Christians will be the ones tortured and just so you know CATHOLICS did that not Christians
Yes, yes He did and does lol
Prayer of Salvation is JUST that.
Yes
@@soundlysouth2962 a prayer is different than signing a paper as paper wasn't around yet. Ever hear of papyrus? Only the rich could afford that, so you are saying god only cares about the rich. Maybe your right and have changed my mind. Greed is good
@@ZacLowing loyalty oath was the question.... not, "did Christ require written essays , on paper, to follow Him" .... bottom line, the prayer of Salvation is not JUST a prayer.... it is THE PRAYER .... as a lost sinner, once I asked God to save my soul, pledge my life to Him, and give me the Holy Spirit, I WAS COMPLETELY CHANGED. I FELT ALIVE like no other time .... Joy, Peace, Understanding ALL came to me like never before....like I was "Born Again". Being a Christian is very much a loyalty oath, not sure fire insurance. once we know the truth and light, we cannot turn back.
Blessings to you. 🙏
Good step. ☆Happy☆ Seek the old path.
I am not signing any paper to be in a faith community or a religion. I was in a church that did this it became cult and the church split and started throwing out anyone the pastor did not feel did him homage.
Somebody finally said it.
The definition of cult actually.
Well spoken.
It's a church, freedom of religion gives them the right, I 100% agree with the church....
If it was muslims or Jews no one would bat an eye...Why do gays can have people be dedicated to them but Christians can't???
They can also kick out anyone that doesn't follow the ten commandments based on those religious beliefs. Look it up if you're not aware of what that is.
Racist
1: news like looking at the biggest religion to get a good buck
2:Christians have more political power figuratively and literally when it comes to religion. I'm serious as America is mostly made up of Christians and can protest bending those those ruled for their favor over others.
3:there are MANY people dedicated to Christians alittle more then LGBT, it just that the many support both sides and support what seems more fair between both parties.
Example if there was a law going for anti gay marriage people who say no to that law.
Though if there was a law to stop religion stop people putting religion in ads to donate the law would be dropped because it would be unfair as well.
Then we just have haters who just side with anyone against a group they dint make a significant proportion just an annoying amount.
I tried my best at explaining this is from what I seen at least and what they do for most part.
Nothing says christian love like restricting the rights of people who disagree with you
I defy anyone to find for me the word "homosexuality" in the Bible. I then ask you to describe to me how Jesus would turn people (yes, gay people ARE God's children) away from Christianity. Thirdly, just as we do not keep all early Israel doctrine and laws today, why pick those that happen to purport hate and isolation that encourages youth to commit suicide? Let's look at the TOTALITY of the Bible through the lens of love and Jesus Christ. Then, all of this just goes away, and we can just see God and live under the two most important commandments -- Love the Lord with all your soul and heart and mind and Love your neighbor as yourself .
If you love God and humanity, you will preach the truth that saves souls. Don't cherry pick the word of God to suit you and throw out the rest. That will not help you or anyone else. If you think Jesus is ok with us continuing in sin, think again. He says, "Go your way, and sin no more."
That's love, telling you to break the bondage of sin and walk in newness of life. Jesus came to save us and free us from everlasting torment and darkness which was created for the devil and his angels and will also be the place where all people go that do not surrender to God's loving will, which is that no one will perish. His burden is light and fulfilling and joyful. He's no tyrant. He's good, and he extends a free gift to us of salvation to believe in him. So please read your Bible and discover God's will for your life. Sin is sin and should be walked away from. Move forward with God's help.
So handy that the bigots self-ID
They are not the Church but a form of Godliness denying the power. False teachers. Did Jesus ask the woman at the well to sign an oath? Jesus said to not make oaths. A bunch of hypocrites and charlatans hell bent on hate. When you believe you are a gatekeeper to the cross, your in big trouble.
This is only One King I bow to and have an Oath with.
That's right - certify your bigotry.
why is the church practicing freedom of religion wrong???? there's tons of gay churches and drag shows you can go to
@@homerdadon6363 "free to be a bigot" I get it.
Bigotry is you condoning this vile sinful lifestyle. If you love them, tell them the truth. Homosexuals need Jesus Christ, just like everyone else!
But I get it, Homosexuals don't have to repent from their sin. Just the rest of us! This is Wickedness.
@@briarpatchson3039 your typical kristofacist
@@briarpatchson3039 myob and stuff your fairytales.
Thank God for our church leaders standing up against this normalization of immoral behavior.
Sis careful with that holy water it’s been poison with hate
Your a hypocrite and a traitor to god!
Why allow hypocrisy in any organization.
God said not to embrace sin. God created only one male and one female we should all respect god creation. Do not fall in satan’s deception and I notice his time is short so now he is pushing harder to destroy what god created.
Embrace, meaning to act as God and condemn others for their actions. Which in your next sentence you actually imply, as do most from your type of group-standpoint. On monogamous homosexuality take a look at these versus KJV Luke 20:33-35, Galations 3:26-29, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
😎✝️ I am Catholic Monk...I say GREAT...GOOD...it is a sin..
Don't be fooled. At least TRY not to sin.
Then start with yourself. No higher power sits in judgment of us if it’s only ourselves who can guard against our obsessions. You are just using an outdated excuse inflict second class citizen treatment on a group of people who are different who don’t affect your way of life in anyway. You choose to let it affect you.
@@Quicknusiance 😎😎😎 (1) - We can and must also guard against other people's obsessions, especially when they effect our rights and freedoms...(2) - They effect our rights and freedoms because they are immoral and break down the family unit, which ensures a strong MAN or WOMAN "Identity " that fosters discipline and Mental Health through a strong individual identity and participation in the social structure that ensures virtue, strength, intelligence and order.
@@jerrycapodilupo9195 that thought is what leads to death and suffering
Its a private organization protected in more than one way by the First Amendment. Another private entity has the right to demand its members sign an oath that supports the agenda of the GBTQIAMAP&OP+ Community. OTH, "rules for thee, but not for me" is a sine qua non of that hate group.
a private entity? Why not be public??
As someone who been baptized at a Baptist church seeing these makes me sad. This is just discrimination, people come to church to learn ways of God, love others,and discipline ourselves.
I feel feel sadden we still have some kind of discrimination these days God told to love one other yet we hardly do because of something unique about us.
I think you are confused on this. This is for the members to sign not for the guest that come to the church.
@@davescott686 I see, well still kinda horrible that they still restrict marriage like this. Reminds me of Malachi 2:10-12 (its about a woman who loves a man but church doesn't allow it) which is kinda like this but more extreme as they say you can't marry a non believer. It's like a Christian wants to marry a Muslim might as well put that in effect if they want to limit it to heterosexual for members personal lives.
For reals though it feels like they nitpick most of the time when it comes to these passages using all these small sections that's why I don't use the Bible as often and only in biblical settings.
@@gayema664 Marriage is between a man and a woman. Where are you confused with?
@@davescott686 I'm confused on the strict rules on church members about marriage. Like why ban only lgbt marriage and not all condemned marriage.
Again, Malachi 2:10-12 shows only a male believer and female believer of the same religion can be married yet members can marry others from different religions or ones that dont believe at all. So why just do that as well if you going to ban gay marriage for members as well?
@@gayema664 Gay marriage is not honored by God. That's in the bible.
Why don't those people get their church and pray to their god.... please do that !! They have a problem with Arthea Franklin song. I'M A NATURAL WOMAN. she was a natural woman. Trans wasn't made in the 60s and wasn't even thought of
trans people existed long before then.
peaches Lawson. God, not god please.
@Sir Gus no I spelled it right. Check yourself, please
You can be LGBT and Christian
@Dan Saber. Says who? Give Biblical evidence please. Oh, can't find any Danny Boy.
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." Genesis 1:27
On monogamous homosexuality take a look at these versus KJV Luke 20:33-35, Galations 3:26-29, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9-10@@sirgus8727 and above all Mark 12:28-31
Sure did! However, Galatians 3:26-29, here's verse 28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus"@@eleanormyers1274
No you can't
By LGBT freedoms they mean, freedom to tell others what to do. Clever.
You know if it bothers you that much did it ever occur that you can simply find yourself another church? This is making a story out of a non story.
it underscores why the church in general is losing members.
@@notaniceguy34 That's the choice if they don't care they don't care. I have seen churches all the time lose members and don't care about it.
Also, relationships of church members, not to mention family members, could be potentially destroyed for something so unnecessary.
@@dvferyance i know and it's a sad mistake. This is why so many people are leaving the church. Making people sign stuff like thsi is so unnecessary.
@@notaniceguy34 Ummm Non denominational churches are growing. Google is your friend
AMEN. GOOD FOR YOU.
Good. Time to stand up against Wolf Preachers
why not sign a ''healthcare'' bill or a ''financial and psychological help for pregnant women'' bill?
I'll sign
Ha ha all the closet preachers preaching to one another. How about loving the Lord with all your heart, love your neighbor and mind your damned business and let God take care of the rest.
✝ Mark 16:15
"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature."
oxfords1. 👈 Obviously haven't read your Bible for a while (if ever). Please try again.
It really don't mean anything being a member of a earthly congregation or church. Because Jesus Christ was Jewish, but he never liked going to the synagogues because the religious leaders didn't except him. Just like what's going on now. A person can worship God, anywhere, place , or time. I would rather get me a beer, rather to give donations to a priest or pastor anyway.
Amen! "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus" Galatians 3:28, Apostle Paul, KJV the original version in English.
Lol wow religious abuse. How innovating
(L)et (G)od (B)urn (T)hem (Q)uickly. Jesus preached love but not love everything 😂
“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:8 KJV
Yeah.... revelations never said anything about whoremongers, nor sorcerers. You just made that up.
@@matthewbickle3223 I guess 😅
Better look a these versus KJV again
Mark 12:28-31
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. ... also see Luke 20:33-35, Galations 3:26-29, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
First Baptist is an enemy of Jacksonville's development and success
They are the Stewards of the Confederacy.
100% agree. It's not shameful how undeveloped this city it.
I moved away to Charlotte in early 90s and lived there for almost 10 years and then 12 in Atlanta.
Jacksonville today is the exact place I left in 1985 when I went away to college.
Jacksonville leaders have allowed First Baptist Church to call the shots on development downtown. Jacksonville is a huge, little country town.
Nope....goes against Baptist theological principles. Conformity is antithetical and wrong.