Growing up people use to walk as groups or just families to Church. But over the decades I don’t see that anymore. The Church doors are not what the younger generation don’t feel comfortable or welcome because so much political, greed and gossipers.
In the last days there will be a "falling away" and this will speed up the process. Praise God for the fulfilling of His sovereign will established before the foundation of the world !!
@@JamesSmith-ib8ehif you don’t know about the sex abuse scandals that have hit the SBC, you’ve been listening to their spin and not paying attention. Google.
AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS AFTERWARD, THAT I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH, AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS, YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS. JOEL 2:28. THIS IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO READ THE WHOLE BIBLE BEFORE COMING TO ANY CONCLUSIONS.
@@janewhitely964 Joel says they will prophecy. Thats not preaching. Its seeing a vision from God about a future event or hearing instructions from God. This doesn't make one a leader, preacher or pastor
This is convoluted reporting. They did not vote to allow women pastors. Their policy already prohibits that. This was to further clarify but ended up redundant. Right or wrong, the Baptist faith still requires male leadership.
Blessed be. Truth! and the poor dears get so angry when you try to just have a conversation with them. It's frustrating thinking that way, I'm sure. 🤔🤘🫶
I went to a "Bible believing Baptist church" (read Southern Baptist) over 40 years ago. It didn't take long to pick out all the lies and hypocrisy. Been an atheist ever since.
@@indman101, Christians need to understand how much their religion is judged by their behavior. Nothing undermines a religion like hypocrisy. It shows lack of sincere belief. If the members of a religion don't believe its teachings, who does?
SB preachers daughter here. Yep. Did church camp every summer. Wednesday and all day/night Sundays. Yep. Proud Pagan right here. Sure got some good potlucks though 😄wanna know why SB's cook so well? What else you gonna do when you can't, make out, gamble, dance,watch anything good, invite friends over who aren't in your church, and the list goes on and on and on😑
Please don't just a righteous, pure, loving and Holy God by the behavior of His disobedient and rebellious children and some who are just wolves in sheeps clothing.
@@Lynn7015hbtrue, god chose men to write it. The alienation of women/girls is intentional. It’s also why the Bible says woman came from the rib of the man and pregnancy was created as a punishment for eve and women. Women/girls need to accept that especially those that are religious. No more sugarcoating the word of the lord. No more adding human values to manipulate scripture into humans liking for inclusion. The Bible is raw, alienating, and exclusive in many ways.
1 Timothy 2 “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” It says it explicitly. Edit to add: No, I don’t believe that. I’m actually not a believer at all. But, the Bible 100% says it.
Oh yes, the religious leaders straining the gnats that Jesus warned us about. Jesus never mentioned that women couldn’t preach. That was Paul‘s opinion based on his Jewish upbringing.
Don't do that to yourself, the Lord loves you and doesn't want to see you be thrown into hell. That soul(consciousness) inside of you is a piece of the holy spirit, make sure it returns to Heaven, not disposed in the flaming garbage incinerator. Our complete time on earth is a blink compared to the eternity we have waiting for us, that Jesus prepared for us. That's literally the purpose of life, why we were placed here, to see which ones are worthy of eternal salvation by accepting the Lord and receiving Heaven, and those that deny him and will be denied BY him on judgement day. Just think about it, please. This world isn't the end, it's the beginning. Your soul is too important to not care about where you spend eternity. I pray that the seed in you grows and brings you back to Jesus. Even if it feels like the entire world is against you, remember that Jesus has and always will love you, that soul inside of you was a gift from him, use it wisely. God bless you and I hope to see you in Heaven one day.
In the last days, we’re there…God promised to pour out of His Spirit on ALL flesh, male and female. His Spirit comes to enable us to carry out the work of God in the earth. Scripture must be read in context. Thank GOD, that He doesn’t consult with man when HE decides to use a man or woman. God uses whomever He chooses, male or female. He is seeking labourers, GENDERLESS, just labourers to harvest souls for the Kingdom. It is a shame that this fruitless argument persists in many churches. What a distraction!
Some of these folks might do well to read what happened after Jesus spoke to the woman at the well. 39 Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41 And because of his words many more became believers.“
I agree 99%, but I'll leave the rest open for Buddhism, kinda hard to dislike a religion whose only real focus is inner self meditation and respect for all living creatures
@@derrickjoe1872 theta dimply not true at all, both government and education evolved without religion as well. Religion has consistently been the biggest roadblock to societal and scientific advancement, we would probably be colonizing Mars right now if religuous people had not actively persecuting scientific progress for thousands of years
Who cares. That's what voting is about, choice. This doesn't affect most of us in any way. If you don't like religion, nobody is forcing you to be a part of it.
It affects me when mythology is incorporated into legislation. And the MAGAt Taliban is working hard to turn this country into a theocracy based on fairy tales.
This conflict is because one group is drilling down on a single verse in Timothy while ignoring all the times in the Bible where God used women in leadership. Five women are named as prophets in the Old Testament. People who God spoke through. Same in the New Testament. Anna specifically, but Paul talked about women who were out preaching the gospel. Even in Timothy, he tells Timothy that it was his mother and grandmother, Lois and Eunice her were his spiritual mentors. They’re straining at a gnat.
It is not biblical woman pastor Where in the Bible you once jesus give woman authority to lead the church Where This idea comes from mankind not from God Neither Jesus Christ Church is woman jesus is the husband If woman wants to reverse jesus and then woman take the place of Jesus That is woman who lead woman That is lesbianism
That is, "No religion, except for Christianity." The Bible teaches an incredibly high view of women. In marriage, you see it most clearly in Ephesians 5:25 (which was written by the Apostle Paul), in the gospel accounts of the life of Christ it's everywhere, in the Old Testament's Proverbs it's all over the place. In Genesis 2:18 we read that the man is insufficient in himself, and is in need of a helper, and so God creates a woman to be the only one who can be suited for that role. It's just all over Scripture. Women are held in amazingly high esteem in Scripture. So are men, and so are children. God does not esteem either of them over the other anywhere in Scripture. Just because He creates men and women with certain unique roles and responsibilities in their families and churches, each having their own freedoms and restrictions, doesn't mean that He doesn't see them as equal in value. He most certainly does. For anyone to say that Christianity is an anti-woman religion clearly doesn't understand what the Bible teaches on the matter at all.
It has nothing to do with being equal in the beginning God made them male and female HE made them . God says that women are not supposed to preach ( the office of Pastor ) is for the man ..... Adam was first in order God made women from his rib . (Adam) was not decived but eve was by the serpent in the garden . God is a God of Order that's His Choice ...
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 1 Timothy 2:12. Wow doing things not scripture based. Revelation is upon us
Because it’s not how the Church was set up by Christ and his disciples We can get mad at this, kick and scream, and vote against it…but we will be changing holy tradition
1 Timothy 2 “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.” Is there anything vague about that?
@@mpkropf5062 I have no reason to believe your claims true, as they are non-evidentiary like every other god-claim. You certainly have a right to freely worship whatever god works for you, no matter how aburd I think they are. However, I sincerely hope you remember that your right to do so ends where the rights of others begin. However you feel about women being subservient to men, should not influence the rest of us who do not subscribe to your beliefs. I feel quite sorry for any woman you may have in your life. Such archaic beliefs leaves women vulnerable to abuse, as they are told not to question anything. This is indoctrination through fear and intimidation of the highest order.
This is addressed to the people/person who takes down the messages they don't like: IGNORANCE IS BLISS and it is massively important to protect the ignorance of the flock, but it can be a full time job. I understand that the truth of what the holy scriptures ACTUALLY say is no where near as important as maintaining the shared delusion. The problem is that "truth will out" and that's why organized religions with their willful ignorance and blatant hypocrisy are dying out.
If the Lord wants to speak through women, he will and has. So you want to allow gays to preach but not women, there's a big problem. Jesus had female apostles, this isn't Islam where women are treated with less respect than sl*ves. Jesus loves everyone, including his persecutors, but he doesn't love our sins, so repent, help those that need it, don't condemn them, because our sins don't define us, but don't bring sin into a church and encourage others to sin instead of repenting away from those sins.
This is dishonest. Stop the sugarcoating, Bible is meant to be raw, alienating, and exclusive. He made pregnancy a punishment for eve and also women. He said women are to be silent in church and can’t teach. This is his intentions. Who cares that you don’t like it, you are supposed to be a follower of god.
I Timothy 3:2 gives the qualifications of a bishop (aka) a pastor, and one the qualifications is that the bishop must be the husband of one wife. There are a lot of things in the Bible you may not like, but like a lot of people, the Southern Baptist Convention is ignoring those to give the people what they want. We should read and apply God’s Word to our lives, so we can please Him, not change and ignore God’s Word to please ourselves.
Have you ever questioned why so many gospel were left out of the Bible because the men off the day thought the sheep couldn't handle the truth. You're all being fed milk from men.
Do not add to or take away from the Word of God; you be found a lier. Read Deuteronomy chapter 4:2. Read Proverbs chapter 30:6. Read Revelation chapter 22:18,19.
Suddenly the media is concerned with church politics when it aligns with their own. I wonder how many of the media are associated with the Southern Baptist church and whether it really affects them? Different denominations will hold different views according to their customs and beliefs. The media nor the law have a say in what private church organizations decide within their own organizations with a VOTE! The media is a for democracy until it is against their beliefs.
Sounds good. Let's also remember that the right of a church and its members to freely practice their religion ends where the rights of others begin. I think some of them are forgetting that.
To many churches today have catered to the world's view of life instead of God's word of life. When we move away from the Word of God, we move away from God Himself and walk according to Satan's world view.
Wisdom is referred to in the feminine in the Book of Proverbs. "She teaches" "She calls out" "She raises her voice" "Listen to her" "Heed her warning" " She will lead you on the path of righteousness and truth" "The wise follow her". Wisdom speaks. ♾
Why would a women want to take the role of being a pastor... God has given women a calling to be the matriarch of the family... The man is to be the head of the home.. Equal,, but different positions in the body of Christ....
Can I introduce you to Jesus? Also I might just be saying this to save my own soul, you know us women don’t even get thought of as possibly being the anti christ, talk about deflation of ego ,
@@heathermichael3987 ... we are all born as atheists until our parents tell us something different. so, after spending several years pretending to be southern baptist; as soon as i turned 18, i left home and never returned to the church again. everyone has a right to believe in whatever makes them be the best version of themselves. i believe in me.
@@johnstow5613 ... nothing. They continued to witness by example. Loving, forgiving, non-judgemental. They were loved and respected in their church and community. I was very proud to have them as my parents and my example to live by. One older brother and I just didnt buy into the god/jesus/bible/heaven/hell beliefs.
@@nancymoore8250 It is well. I have another question. America seems to have a Christian history. The first set of people to migrate to America were pious Protestant Christians. What changed in that last 200 years or so? And how old are you now though?
Someone explain to me how they can actually enforce this if it did pass , most of the SBC is small town churches that depend on women especially for their children and youth ministries (the biggest ministries in the church there probably is right). I can't see this actually being followed by any church with less than a couple hundred active members.
DOESNT MATTER how many members they have, ALL the members and the church staff should OBEY THE WORD of GOD, no women pastors over men, they can pastor other women and kids, but not men.
@@Lauren-vd4qe but how is the SBC going to enforce that in the tens of thousands small town churches that make up the entire convention , that's what I'm asking. also, the SBC just kicked out a church in Virginia for having a woman serve as pasture for the children and youth ministry.
The scripture against women teachers or leaders was Paul's personal ban, not God's. The Paulist and Petrine scriptures about women were about wives. A concordance revealed the original words. Nevertheless, bishops are exclusively husbands and fathers. The Adamic curse remains.
Who cares whether they voted. Paul says "let your women keep silence in the churches" and that they should "learn in silence with all subjection". It prohibits women from teaching men or having authority over men. The Bible says what is says, case closed.
This issue of not allowing women in church in positions of leadership is exactly why my church left the Southern Baptist Convention! Women are just as qualified to lead a church as a man.
@@najeemuhammad9739the scripture says it tho. It enables men and that view. Stop sugarcoating and allow women/girls see what the Bible’s says. It’s supposed to be raw and alienating
@@Heyyoulady Starting with the King James version, the Bible is a translation of Latin, which was a translation of Greek which was a translation of Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke. As soon as someone translated from the original text, which no one has, you changed more than 1 JOT or 1 TIDDLE. Don't tell me what the Bible says about women. That was Paul's message to the church, NOT A DIRECTIVE from God.
Oh stewieboy: The fallen angels (watchers) descended on Mt. Hermon. (Northern Israel) Check out the latitude and follow where it goes thru. Got Area 51.
@@camerongage1237 I just want to live in a country where people can exericise their right to freely worship, but that right ends where the rights of others begin.
I'm a Christian, and they don't speak for me. I believe that God calls women to be pastors. My pastor is a wonderful woman of God, and God uses her in a mighty way.
I’m not SB anymore but that’s one thing they do right! They do obey the Bible on this matter! People try to justify themselves when they want to do something, just like they do on divorce and remarriage! Yet Jesus made it very clear but they don’t like His answer so they keep looking for scripture to justify themselves. But one day we will all stand before Him!
All the women have to do is form their own churches to preach in if the men want to be that way. The women can just form their own churches somewhere else.
I don’t have a horse in this race……but, broad is the way, and wide is the gate that leads to destruction….not saying women will lead the SBC into destruction, after all they ate just as capable as men when it comes to destruction, if all you are seeking is popularity…..
While its clear that God forbids women shepherds and pastors .. I will say I would rather an elder woman teach me *honestly , than have an undercover "🏳️🌈" ecumenical man leading me! If you've never listened to Richard Bennett on Berean Beacon TH-cam channel I highly suggest his videos especially those regarding the dangers of ecumenism where wolves in sheep's clothing would bring God's children to the Roman Catholic Church who is the Beast in Revelation 1 Corinthians 14:32-35 KJV - And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
The modern Church is a Spiritual mess, I reject it.
Same
It's been a spiritual mess ever since the entire fake religion was invented
@MeatPuppet1962
Just another way to get easy money from people.
All my christian Friends agree.
Jesus is not the problem, people are.
This is so sad,, when we refuse to obey Gods Word,, we will have to pay for this somehow,
People wake up and respect and honor the Lords commends
Growing up people use to walk as groups or just families to Church. But over the decades I don’t see that anymore. The Church doors are not what the younger generation don’t feel comfortable or welcome because so much political, greed and gossipers.
I vaguely remember but , I was a sixtys child , they gave out sandwiches fruit , food baskets on Tuesday and Thursday or Saturday
It's mostly just because people are slowly waking up to the realization that religions are just invented nonsense
@@Calpaddy-r9d Yes I remember those good old days I’m also a 60’s baby
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Jesus was Jewish a teacher protesting against The corruption in religion.
Yes!
Jesus is a king of kings and lord of lords the alpha and the Omega, the one who was, is, and will to come. You better repent.
@@bp1194Truth. That man spoke heresy
@@bp1194 clean your own house and let others do the same.
🤔 you didn't get the memo.
He was, is, and will always be God.
In the beginning was God, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1
In the last days there will be a "falling away" and this will speed up the process. Praise God for the fulfilling of His sovereign will established before the foundation of the world !!
Great way to distract from their massive sexual abuse coverup
What? This is about Baptists not Catholics.
same thing dude...
but not having women as your peers makes it more likely they will continue to abuse children
Timothy 1 through 13
@@JamesSmith-ib8ehif you don’t know about the sex abuse scandals that have hit the SBC, you’ve been listening to their spin and not paying attention. Google.
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AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS AFTERWARD, THAT I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH, AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY, YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS, YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS. JOEL 2:28. THIS IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO READ THE WHOLE BIBLE BEFORE COMING TO ANY CONCLUSIONS.
sure gals can prophesy and b deacons etc but only over other women and kids, not over men.
@Lauren-vd4qe
Where in The Holy Scripture's does it say that women can be deacons?
If cbs is covering this story and glad with your church decision be for sure you don't have the mind of God
😂😂😂 exactly
It's Christ's Church...Not your Church. Follow the scriptures and enjoy God's blessings!
@@tp-mh2ji ... more like "Follow the money" and enjoy the grift 🙄
Doesn't the Bible ban female pastors?
Yes. In First Timothy.
It also banned shellfish. Etc….That’s why it cannot be taken literally.
It bans cult followers but that hasn’t stopped them from being a cult
@@nenaaa1444how so? define cult.
@@Sanddollar1mixed fabrics?
Doesn't matter what they say. God says different. Women are not called to preach/Pastor. Case closed.
absolutely... it's apostasy
Joel 2:28 says otherwise.
@@janewhitely964 Joel says they will prophecy. Thats not preaching. Its seeing a vision from God about a future event or hearing instructions from God. This doesn't make one a leader, preacher or pastor
Headline Should Read: SOUTHERN BAPTIST CONVENTION VOTES TO ALLOW WOMEN TO LEAD, BUT ONLY THE SANDWICH MINISTRY
that's funny the taliban just did the same thing
God never calls women to be church pastors.
@@davidlafleche1142 God didn't call 'man to be perverted predators but here we are....
@@applexx9065 No, but Satan does.
@@Dagger-Deep As a matter of fact, I did write fiction. See page.
@@davidlafleche1142fundamentalists of every religion are exactly alike. Easily duped due to low education.
This is convoluted reporting. They did not vote to allow women pastors. Their policy already prohibits that. This was to further clarify but ended up redundant. Right or wrong, the Baptist faith still requires male leadership.
I grew up in the Baptist Church; it's completely embarrassing how Baptist see the world, Blessed Be.
Blessed be.
Truth! and the poor dears get so angry when you try to just have a conversation with them. It's frustrating thinking that way, I'm sure. 🤔🤘🫶
Same tbh.
I wouldn't even care, EXCEPT they try to make their nonsensical garbage the LAW for all the rest of us. I have a problem with that.
Explain what is corrupt about baptist?
TJ Green: sexual abuse cover-up, Blessed Be.
Here it comes. A line in the sand. Choose this day whom you will follow.
AMEN. 🐑🕯️🕊️
Imagine still wondering why the younger generations reject organized religion completely.
No need. It is fair too.
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I went to a "Bible believing Baptist church" (read Southern Baptist) over 40 years ago. It didn't take long to pick out all the lies and hypocrisy. Been an atheist ever since.
If you put your faith in everyone but Christ then that's what happens.
@@indman101, Christians need to understand how much their religion is judged by their behavior. Nothing undermines a religion like hypocrisy. It shows lack of sincere belief. If the members of a religion don't believe its teachings, who does?
SB preachers daughter here. Yep. Did church camp every summer. Wednesday and all day/night Sundays. Yep. Proud Pagan right here. Sure got some good potlucks though 😄wanna know why SB's cook so well? What else you gonna do when you can't, make out, gamble, dance,watch anything good, invite friends over who aren't in your church, and the list goes on and on and on😑
@@indman101I figure they're pulling their faith in science and fact, cuz that's what Atheists do. 👍
Please don't just a righteous, pure, loving and Holy God by the behavior of His disobedient and rebellious children and some who are just wolves in sheeps clothing.
Timothy 2:12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;[a] she must be quiet.
@NPC13377 the bible was written by "men"
@@Lynn7015hb Jesus was also a man
@@NPC13377yeah, but Jesus wasn’t a misogynist
@@shannon5203 Jesus helped everyone including thieves and prostitutes. His teachings would be considered many negative things in today's society.
@@Lynn7015hbtrue, god chose men to write it. The alienation of women/girls is intentional. It’s also why the Bible says woman came from the rib of the man and pregnancy was created as a punishment for eve and women. Women/girls need to accept that especially those that are religious. No more sugarcoating the word of the lord. No more adding human values to manipulate scripture into humans liking for inclusion. The Bible is raw, alienating, and exclusive in many ways.
They call themselves Christians but where is it in the Bible that says women can’t be Pastor?
The Bible doesn’t say that. Nowhere in the Bible says that the woman cannot be pastors. with use to say that they take it out of contact
1 Timothy 2:12
Paul, formerly known as Saul says so. You know the “guy” whose word is in the New Testament more than Jesus Christ. It’s all make believe.
Try reading it and you will find it.
1 Timothy 2
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
It says it explicitly.
Edit to add: No, I don’t believe that. I’m actually not a believer at all. But, the Bible 100% says it.
Pay taxes
Tax mega churches.
This is the kind of nonsense you get when you base your rationality on what Bronze Age sheep herders said.
Keep that same energy on your expiration bed. When that happens, and the Grim Reaper comes to collect, many like you are quick to believe.
@@RabbitWatchShop”from dust I come to dust I shall return” there is nothing more. Evidence matters in this words not your feelings
@@jakemf1 *tips fedora*
Your dates are off by a few millennia.
@@vickiwicker5765 It depends on which version of we’re scared for the dark you take.
Oh yes, the religious leaders straining the gnats that Jesus warned us about. Jesus never mentioned that women couldn’t preach. That was Paul‘s opinion based on his Jewish upbringing.
I'm a proud atheist.
Not for long.
Can I introduce you to Jesus?
@@heathermichael3987 yes please introduce us to your make believe friend and your make believe enemy.
@@heathermichael3987
I hear nails are on sale at home depot right now.
Don't do that to yourself, the Lord loves you and doesn't want to see you be thrown into hell. That soul(consciousness) inside of you is a piece of the holy spirit, make sure it returns to Heaven, not disposed in the flaming garbage incinerator. Our complete time on earth is a blink compared to the eternity we have waiting for us, that Jesus prepared for us. That's literally the purpose of life, why we were placed here, to see which ones are worthy of eternal salvation by accepting the Lord and receiving Heaven, and those that deny him and will be denied BY him on judgement day. Just think about it, please. This world isn't the end, it's the beginning. Your soul is too important to not care about where you spend eternity. I pray that the seed in you grows and brings you back to Jesus. Even if it feels like the entire world is against you, remember that Jesus has and always will love you, that soul inside of you was a gift from him, use it wisely. God bless you and I hope to see you in Heaven one day.
In the last days, we’re there…God promised to pour out of His Spirit on ALL flesh, male and female. His Spirit comes to enable us to carry out the work of God in the earth. Scripture must be read in context. Thank GOD, that He doesn’t consult with man when HE decides to use a man or woman. God uses whomever He chooses, male or female. He is seeking labourers, GENDERLESS, just labourers to harvest souls for the Kingdom. It is a shame that this fruitless argument persists in many churches. What a distraction!
Some of these folks might do well to read what happened after Jesus spoke to the woman at the well. 39 Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41 And because of his words many more became believers.“
He called out her sin…. He called her to repentance & faith/believe His Word.
you distort the teaching.
She was NOT a PASTOR,
she shared her experience and testimony as we ALL are called to do
Hallelujah
The Vanilla Taliban strikes again!
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Nailed it buHaha
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Religion poisons the world.
I agree 99%, but I'll leave the rest open for Buddhism, kinda hard to dislike a religion whose only real focus is inner self meditation and respect for all living creatures
@@Scott-fy7fm
Nothing wrong with Buddhism whatsoever.
@@derrickjoe1872 theta dimply not true at all, both government and education evolved without religion as well. Religion has consistently been the biggest roadblock to societal and scientific advancement, we would probably be colonizing Mars right now if religuous people had not actively persecuting scientific progress for thousands of years
@@Scott-fy7fm Except for Muslims, who are apparently fair game, at least in India and Burma.
Who cares. That's what voting is about, choice. This doesn't affect most of us in any way. If you don't like religion, nobody is forcing you to be a part of it.
Accept when they pass laws for the public based on specific religious moral beliefs! That's when I do care!
Texas wants biblical studies taught in public schools. 🙄
It affects me when mythology is incorporated into legislation. And the MAGAt Taliban is working hard to turn this country into a theocracy based on fairy tales.
You’re forcing your ideology upon people who know it’s wrong.
Yes it does affect everyone. These people want to make laws that affect everyone. They need to stay in their lane.
I'm a Baptist but just because Baptist say they agree with this doesn't mean it's right.
If you know it’s not right, then why agree to it.
Absolutely right
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Gods WORD says it, take it up with Him and tell God He is wrong
Women should not be in authority over men. It is scriptural
Yeah, in a poorly translated book missing many of its information.
Absolutely, it states this exact point in I Timothy 2:12
@@MarthaMcCain So you have read the Bible in its original languages?
This conflict is because one group is drilling down on a single verse in Timothy while ignoring all the times in the Bible where God used women in leadership. Five women are named as prophets in the Old Testament. People who God spoke through. Same in the New Testament. Anna specifically, but Paul talked about women who were out preaching the gospel. Even in Timothy, he tells Timothy that it was his mother and grandmother, Lois and Eunice her were his spiritual mentors. They’re straining at a gnat.
Exactly!
This conflict is satan entering the church in the last days to devour whom he can.
💯
It is not biblical woman pastor
Where in the Bible you once jesus give woman authority to lead the church
Where
This idea comes from mankind not from God
Neither Jesus Christ
Church is woman jesus is the husband
If woman wants to reverse jesus and then woman take the place of Jesus
That is woman who lead woman
That is lesbianism
No religion on this plant wants women to be equals keep that in mind.
No religion or man. Women/girls need to acknowledge this rather than pretend like that belief doesn’t exist.
That is, "No religion, except for Christianity." The Bible teaches an incredibly high view of women. In marriage, you see it most clearly in Ephesians 5:25 (which was written by the Apostle Paul), in the gospel accounts of the life of Christ it's everywhere, in the Old Testament's Proverbs it's all over the place. In Genesis 2:18 we read that the man is insufficient in himself, and is in need of a helper, and so God creates a woman to be the only one who can be suited for that role. It's just all over Scripture. Women are held in amazingly high esteem in Scripture. So are men, and so are children. God does not esteem either of them over the other anywhere in Scripture. Just because He creates men and women with certain unique roles and responsibilities in their families and churches, each having their own freedoms and restrictions, doesn't mean that He doesn't see them as equal in value. He most certainly does. For anyone to say that Christianity is an anti-woman religion clearly doesn't understand what the Bible teaches on the matter at all.
It has nothing to do with being equal in the beginning God made them male and female HE made them . God says that women are not supposed to preach ( the office of Pastor ) is for the man ..... Adam was first in order God made women from his rib . (Adam) was not decived but eve was by the serpent in the garden . God is a God of Order that's His Choice ...
@@michelleslack9985And yet Adam is actually the originator of sin not Eve. In fact Adam blamed Eve and God for his eating of the forbidden fruit.
@@michelleslack9985Joel 2:28.
It all made sense when you mentioned the backward state Alabama.
Self professed high and mighty? you WOKE much?
@@avgejoeschmoe2027 what next are you gonna pull the race card too?
@@avgejoeschmoe2027 if you get your feeling hurt this badly Karen I suggest staying away from the internet.
The great apostacy is happening 😮🙏
yes, you're 100
the great falling away 2 thess 2
"Timothy 2:13-15 Women should remain quiet in the church and no woman should ever teach a man anything or be above a man.
@johnbowen4442 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. Hebrews 13:8
The Bibles pretty clear about that. The Bible doesn't change
Since when does CBS care about religion?
When it's the Christian Taliban telling women they're less than men.
so rejected the ban means the ban is lifted? so they will allow saddleback church to be part of them?
Don't go if you have a problem.
It is not biblical. Read 1Corinthains chapter 11:3. Read 1Corinthains chapter 14:34,35. Read Ephesians chapter 5:21-24. Read 1Timothy chapter 2:11-15. Read 1Timothy chapter 3:1,2.
Nobody, Nobody can change the Word of God. God's punishment is real. Everyone tampering with God's Word will be punishment with His Wrath.
His wrath is simply being without God . 🙄 stop trying to scare people.
Punishment? I'm so glad I'm an atheist.
@Dagger-Deep you WILL BOW DOWN TO The Lord Jesus Christ IN DUE DATE...don't worry.
@@heathermichael3987 Read Revelation chapters 20 and 22. Don't be deceived. Nobody is above the Almighty.
@@thecryofthewatchman
No one is falling for your scare tactics anymore.
No gods, no masters, no cults.
Did God create man or the man create God through the rich and the powerful could control the masses?
Jesus asks YOU......"Who do YOU say that I am?"
You answer will have an ETERNAL consequences
Really?? Male egos running wild.
They have openly defied Gods Word
It’s against the Bible for women to be pastors!
Are you sure? Have you read the original Bible because the translation is terrible.
@@Lin-co9jd Yes I have
Fools had the chance to set their church back on the righteous path
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 1 Timothy 2:12.
Wow doing things not scripture based. Revelation is upon us
What garbage
Those aliens in human disguise living here on Earth have been here since the Old Testament.
@@johnbowen4442 this is in church and in home. People have become far to worldly.
@@katherinedemott298 so the Bible in context is garbage? That's odd 🤔
@@0doubledseven589 foil hat much?
Why can’t women lead a congregation? I thought religious lead by example, regardless of gender, through the word of Christ?
Because it’s not how the Church was set up by Christ and his disciples
We can get mad at this, kick and scream, and vote against it…but we will be changing holy tradition
1 Timothy 2
“I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.”
Is there anything vague about that?
@@mpkropf5062 The most dangerous thing for humanity is to have answers that cannot be questioned.
@@mpkropf5062 I have no reason to believe your claims true, as they are non-evidentiary like every other god-claim. You certainly have a right to freely worship whatever god works for you, no matter how aburd I think they are. However, I sincerely hope you remember that your right to do so ends where the rights of others begin. However you feel about women being subservient to men, should not influence the rest of us who do not subscribe to your beliefs.
I feel quite sorry for any woman you may have in your life. Such archaic beliefs leaves women vulnerable to abuse, as they are told not to question anything. This is indoctrination through fear and intimidation of the highest order.
This is addressed to the people/person who takes down the messages they don't like: IGNORANCE IS BLISS and it is massively important to protect the ignorance of the flock, but it can be a full time job. I understand that the truth of what the holy scriptures ACTUALLY say is no where near as important as maintaining the shared delusion. The problem is that "truth will out" and that's why organized religions with their willful ignorance and blatant hypocrisy are dying out.
If the Lord wants to speak through women, he will and has. So you want to allow gays to preach but not women, there's a big problem. Jesus had female apostles, this isn't Islam where women are treated with less respect than sl*ves. Jesus loves everyone, including his persecutors, but he doesn't love our sins, so repent, help those that need it, don't condemn them, because our sins don't define us, but don't bring sin into a church and encourage others to sin instead of repenting away from those sins.
@Mediocre_JT you said Jesus had female apostles. ????? Please name those apostles for me.
This is dishonest. Stop the sugarcoating, Bible is meant to be raw, alienating, and exclusive. He made pregnancy a punishment for eve and also women. He said women are to be silent in church and can’t teach. This is his intentions. Who cares that you don’t like it, you are supposed to be a follower of god.
But Jesus didn’t have them preach. Women were not allowed to speak in the Synagogues in Jesus day. They were deaconesses not apostles
What are these men so afraid of? The women reporting their sins?
I Timothy 3:2 gives the qualifications of a bishop (aka) a pastor, and one the qualifications is that the bishop must be the husband of one wife. There are a lot of things in the Bible you may not like, but like a lot of people, the Southern Baptist Convention is ignoring those to give the people what they want. We should read and apply God’s Word to our lives, so we can please Him, not change and ignore God’s Word to please ourselves.
The Bible does say that women aren't called to be pastors. Our society is going backwards. It's regress, not progress.
Have you ever questioned why so many gospel were left out of the Bible because the men off the day thought the sheep couldn't handle the truth. You're all being fed milk from men.
Scripture must be read in context. God uses whomever He chooses , make or female.
And have you read the original words? Cause the translation of the Bible suck.
Do not add to or take away from the Word of God; you be found a lier. Read Deuteronomy chapter 4:2. Read Proverbs chapter 30:6. Read Revelation chapter 22:18,19.
Suddenly the media is concerned with church politics when it aligns with their own. I wonder how many of the media are associated with the Southern Baptist church and whether it really affects them? Different denominations will hold different views according to their customs and beliefs. The media nor the law have a say in what private church organizations decide within their own organizations with a VOTE! The media is a for democracy until it is against their beliefs.
Sounds good. Let's also remember that the right of a church and its members to freely practice their religion ends where the rights of others begin. I think some of them are forgetting that.
These are the most foolish set of people to follow. Who is your God! Man Made vs. Holy Spirit.
There is not only one word of God, that would be impossible as our Holy Father speaks to us all day, everyday. The Temple of God is within us.
Do we need a book to tell us right from wrong?
There is no sky wizard your on a floating rock in the middle of nowhere
@@jakemf1 if that's how you see it, then that's how You see it.
How can you go against the powers of God?
To many churches today have catered to the world's view of life instead of God's word of life. When we move away from the Word of God, we move away from God Himself and walk according to Satan's world view.
The sbc I attended as a kid was family owned. If the husband couldn’t preach that day then his wife would
Wisdom is referred to in the feminine in the Book of Proverbs. "She teaches" "She calls out" "She raises her voice" "Listen to her" "Heed her warning" " She will lead you on the path of righteousness and truth" "The wise follow her". Wisdom speaks. ♾
Folly/foolishness is also referred to in the feminine.
@@justanothermichele The contrast of the godly vs the wicked woman. Which is also taught in the Book of Proverbs.
Why do women today not want to follow the teachings of Paul? Because they want their own way not Gods way!
Why would a women want to take the role of being a pastor... God has given women a calling to be the matriarch of the family... The man is to be the head of the home.. Equal,, but different positions in the body of Christ....
... so glad that Im a born again atheist ... 👍🏼
Can I introduce you to Jesus? Also I might just be saying this to save my own soul, you know us women don’t even get thought of as possibly being the anti christ, talk about deflation of ego ,
@@heathermichael3987 ... we are all born as atheists until our parents tell us something different. so, after spending several years pretending to be southern baptist; as soon as i turned 18, i left home and never returned to the church again.
everyone has a right to believe in whatever makes them be the best version of themselves. i believe in me.
@@nancymoore8250what did your parents say after you left?
@@johnstow5613 ... nothing. They continued to witness by example. Loving, forgiving, non-judgemental. They were loved and respected in their church and community. I was very proud to have them as my parents and my example to live by. One older brother and I just didnt buy into the god/jesus/bible/heaven/hell beliefs.
@@nancymoore8250 It is well. I have another question. America seems to have a Christian history. The first set of people to migrate to America were pious Protestant Christians. What changed in that last 200 years or so? And how old are you now though?
Who cares I'm not a church goer this does not affect anybody I know
Someone explain to me how they can actually enforce this if it did pass , most of the SBC is small town churches that depend on women especially for their children and youth ministries (the biggest ministries in the church there probably is right). I can't see this actually being followed by any church with less than a couple hundred active members.
DOESNT MATTER how many members they have, ALL the members and the church staff should OBEY THE WORD of GOD, no women pastors over men, they can pastor other women and kids, but not men.
@@Lauren-vd4qe but how is the SBC going to enforce that in the tens of thousands small town churches that make up the entire convention , that's what I'm asking.
also, the SBC just kicked out a church in Virginia for having a woman serve as pasture for the children and youth ministry.
Hallelujah! Praise the Lord..
How does everything go back to racism 😂
Women and pastors never go together! 1 Timothy 2.
They currently let women vote, but they don't let women be pastors? 😂
Savages…
I wonder if this event will cause a split in this Church like so many others
The southern Baptists have left scripture and gone down the apostasy road.
Had to throw race into it!!!
The scripture against women teachers or leaders was Paul's personal ban, not God's. The Paulist and Petrine scriptures about women were about wives. A concordance revealed the original words. Nevertheless, bishops are exclusively husbands and fathers. The Adamic curse remains.
I don't recall Jesus asking his followers what they want. He came to teach us God's ways. Jesus called MEN to priestly ministry.
Joel 2:28.
Rules/ votes against women created by men.
Just like the Bible. It’s what god intended
Correct women can go protect the country but dam is to hell to be a minster,
The children are soon going to learn what adultery and covet means. Get ready dad for the questions! You too stepmom #1! Let the questions begin!
If the Rule Book says what is what, then that settles it.
If you can't adhere to the rules of football, go start your own sport, dont call it football
Least Blasphemous Protestants be like:
Who cares whether they voted. Paul says "let your women keep silence in the churches" and that they should "learn in silence with all subjection". It prohibits women from teaching men or having authority over men. The Bible says what is says, case closed.
1 Cor. 11:5; Joel 2:28.
@@janewhitely964 neither of those passages say anything about speaking in church.
This issue of not allowing women in church in positions of leadership is exactly why my church left the Southern Baptist Convention! Women are just as qualified to lead a church as a man.
Right? You want strict suspension on female, go SB! I'm a SB preachers daughter 🫡
Nevermind biblical scripture. It's all about what man wants😂
@@najeemuhammad9739the scripture says it tho. It enables men and that view. Stop sugarcoating and allow women/girls see what the Bible’s says. It’s supposed to be raw and alienating
@@Heyyoulady Starting with the King James version, the Bible is a translation of Latin, which was a translation of Greek which was a translation of Aramaic, the language Jesus spoke. As soon as someone translated from the original text, which no one has, you changed more than 1 JOT or 1 TIDDLE. Don't tell me what the Bible says about women. That was Paul's message to the church, NOT A DIRECTIVE from God.
Good on them for following Holy scripture and the Church.
Is seems wen women put money in church day vote there self out of prayers
No longer Christian.
All this effort for a fairy tale and invisible ghosts in the sky. It makes no sense.
If you want to be in a country that bans all religion then find one and move there.
Oh stewieboy:
The fallen angels (watchers) descended on Mt. Hermon. (Northern Israel)
Check out the latitude and follow where it goes thru. Got Area 51.
@@camerongage1237 I just want to live in a country where people can exericise their right to freely worship, but that right ends where the rights of others begin.
I'm a Christian, and they don't speak for me. I believe that God calls women to be pastors. My pastor is a wonderful woman of God, and God uses her in a mighty way.
Isaiah 4(Revelation 18/1 Corinthians 6)Hebrews 8 take great heed . . . ...
Maybe what is needed is a bible literacy test and a need to pass to vote.
What does God's Word say about this.
As a Southern Baptist, I am thoroughly disappointed by the vote. The Bible needs to be followed, as it is God's word and instruction to us.
The bible said God flooded the earth killing everyone including innocent children. The god of the bible committed genocide. Right?
@lucyb7929 the bible was written by "men"
Doesn't the bible say that women can't be pastors?
There is not only one word of God, that would be impossible as our Holy Father speaks to us all day, everyday. The Temple of God is within us.
I’m not SB anymore but that’s one thing they do right! They do obey the Bible on this matter! People try to justify themselves when they want to do something, just like they do on divorce and remarriage! Yet Jesus made it very clear but they don’t like His answer so they keep looking for scripture to justify themselves. But one day we will all stand before Him!
I don’t care . The southern Baptist are free to vote however they want ,
Jesus didn't leave any religion behind.
What a wicked way to defy God. Expect more tornados and hurricanes to pummel us for these sinful decisions.
All the women have to do is form their own churches to preach in if the men want to be that way. The women can just form their own churches somewhere else.
Yes. Women should stop feeding their pockets. They are all about Money.
Agreed .
That's ridiculous and mocking God like that would only bring his wrath.
@@treeofeternallifearvoredav1227 So are the women, that's why they WON'T make their own churches.
Hmmmm. I have seen heaven and I know God bet you haven’t,
I don’t have a horse in this race……but, broad is the way, and wide is the gate that leads to destruction….not saying women will lead the SBC into destruction, after all they ate just as capable as men when it comes to destruction, if all you are seeking is popularity…..
Women are not meant to be pastors. This is what the Bible teaches.
Remember the apostle Paulette…..? 🤔😳
No women pastors for Me. I wont go to any church with a woman pastor. Just My personal beliefs.
While its clear that God forbids women shepherds and pastors .. I will say I would rather an elder woman teach me *honestly , than have an undercover "🏳️🌈" ecumenical man leading me!
If you've never listened to Richard Bennett on Berean Beacon TH-cam channel I highly suggest his videos especially those regarding the dangers of ecumenism where wolves in sheep's clothing would bring God's children to the Roman Catholic Church who is the Beast in Revelation
1 Corinthians 14:32-35 KJV - And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
It’s not your personal belief. It’s what the Bible says. No one personal beliefs matter, the Bible does
No one ever thinks the anti christ might be a woman , even the anti christ is thought of as being a man ,
@@heathermichael3987 well just tell everybody you don't read your Bible by telling everybody you don't read your Bible because obviously you don't 😵💫