Pretty amazing results, and what a sweet package perfect for woods, clear cuts, open fields and any place that requires a good bit of hiking. Would have loved a rifle like this in my youth.
I owned a Ruger Model77 since 1979 in 30-06 it has been the reason for a lot of meat in my freezer. And they were obtained with 180 grain ptd soft point core-lokt ammo the rifle and the ammo did it’s part 99% of the time if I did my part. A few yrs ago I gave this rifle to my son. And I hunt with a Tika in 270winchester and 130 grain core lokts work like a charm! Love this video! 👍👍😊
I got one on order, A Howa barreled action, Retired all my magnums, At 55 years old, My joints and bones fill it when I squeeze the trigger, Enjoying the light recoiling calibers, Took me 40 or so years to figure out I didn’t need a magnum rifle to fill the freezer.
Suggestion: If you're wanting to reduce the effect of the barrel temperature variable in your testing, get a $15 IR thermometer from Harbor Freight and choose a location on the barrel to take measurements consistently. This way you can make sure the barrel has cooled sufficiently before the next group.
Considering how often you do this type of video and how consistent your process is, seems like the perfect oppurtunity to gather data on how a shusher machine affects grouping.
I’m sure he will cover that. In my experience, with a Banish 30, velocity hasn’t changed more than +\- 10 fps. Vertical point of impact is all I’ve seen shift much and it’s usually 1-1.5” high.
Excellent! Very excited about these Gen IIs. Also, I have a soft spot for the old 7-08; it is sort of getting “covered up” by the huge popularity of the 6.5 Creedmoor but it remains a peachy cartridge.
Love my Ruger American Gen 2 7mm-08. When sighting it in last month, I was rewarded with some nice 100 yard groups. I don't have calipers, I used a tape measure and my Mark 1 eyeball and measured a 3/4 inch group with Remington 140 gr. Core Lokts. A really pleasant surprise was a 5/8 inch group with 140 gr. Federal Fusions! They were my go to in my 243. I noted that in your ammo test video with your Gen 1 Ruger American 7mm-08, you tried the 120 gr Fusions and it didn't like them. You should try the 140's in your Gen 2 and see how they shoot. Love your videos WTW!
Fantastic. Very well done. You are an excellent shot. Your hold & trigger pull were very consistent . I would think that had you fired more groups one of them would have been 025". However 0,82" average groups with a stock rifle and factory non-premium ammo is remarkable.
I think this is one of the best lower prices rifles! I love the 708 it's my favorite deer catcher but my 6.5 prc is close on its heels for the title. Darren
I am going to take a old Remington 721 that I got from a pawn shop and I am got a barrel coming for it to make a 280 AI this year it was the b model with a checker wood stock and I think it will be a fun project what do you think
I view those groups a little differently. In my mind you just shot a 12 round group. If you were to measure the coordinates of each shot and calculate the ES and mean radius of the 12 rounds it would be an even more meaningful expression of the true bench rest precision of the rifle. Just guessing but the total 12rd group size looks to be around about 1.5” ish which is pretty dang impressive for that type of rifle and ammo. You mentioned on some shots speculation if this one or that one was just “me”. I see that a little differently too.. IMO every single impact is a byproduct of the system comprised of the ammo, the rifle, the rest, and you, and the conditions. Quite literally, what you ate for breakfast that morning and how that affects your performance is even expressed in that 12rd group. BTW… ain’t 708 grand?… I absolutely love that cartridge. Cheers!
Actually the 7mm-08 is the ballistic twin to the 7 x 57 Mauser. WDM William D. Bell brained many of the 1000 elephants he dropped with 175 grain round nose full metal jacket bullets. And elephants are culled from helicopters using the 308 cartridge. I like 7mm-08 cartridge based on the 308 cartridge better though.
Great video and very informative, I was really curious how that would shoot with the barrel twist. I've been impressed with the rifle and how it has shot in the the videos so far. Thanks
I hope Remington isn’t the only type of ammo we get to see run in it. We don’t see a whole lot of Remington ammo in my area and what little we do see usually isn’t for the caliber you’re looking for
Nice shooting WTW! I would love to see some match grade rounds group in this gun. Not sure what the Hornady ELDM weight is for 7mm-08 but I would love to see what it can do.
Im really considering one of these. I tend to not even look at cheaper priced options just assuming they wont make me happy but there are not too many manufacturers offering this type of setup in 7mm-08. If Tikka had the T3X Roughteck available in the US with that cambering it would be an easy choice. But they dont seem to.
Question. With all of your Rugers, have you ever noticed any trend with the more ammo you put through them they get a bit more accurate? I've noticed it in many rifles, both factory, and custom, the latter, to a lesser degree.
Commented on a earlier comment here but I own 2 American predator rifles in 6.5 and 7mm-08 and both of them got more and more accurate through the first 60 - 80 rounds. Both tightened up significantly
I see on the Ruger website that the 7.62 X 39 model comes with mini 30 mags. I guess it makes sense for them to just grab them out of the pile and throwing them in the box with the gun, but AICS mags make more sense to me.
Unless you are a Ruger guy, and already have a mini 30 and a bunch of mags ;) I just picked up a Ruger American Predator in .223 that uses AR mags, mainly because I already have a bunch, and ammo.. and dies.. :)
I'm watching you pull the trigger and noticed that you use a hold where you have your thumb laying atop the pistol grip/comb.... I have seen that position a lot with bench shooters. I was taught and continue to use a grip where my thumb circles the top of the stock, giving more of a "lock" (or pressure) on the stock and providing a more consistent (IMHO) position from which I pull the trigger. I'm wondering if you use the same hand hold when hunting? I suspect not because, when hunting, you are holding the rifle stock with your right hand and the forearm with your left.... giving you solid control of your rifle when out in the field. Just thought that, perhaps, you'd like to think of the differences in your rifle "hold" and how it may affect your trigger pull. Your new Gen II is giving plenty good groups as is and I'd sure accept it as a great hunting rifle. I went from a borrowed 30-30 Marlin to my own personal 7mm WM and could get groups down to 1".... but this "kid" asked for, and was given, too much rifle (should have been something like a 7x57 for better consistency).... after a lot of shooting... and some informed coaching from from shooters while in the USAF (of all things....), when I returned home to hunting with that 7mmRM... my groups dropped to 1/2" with a finely tuned original Ruger M77. Most of that was my insuring a consistent hold and position on the cheek piece. Blessings, Brother, I always enjoy your videos. The Gen II, in 7mm-08 would be my choice for a hunter if I wasn't wedded to my .270.
I was taught wrapping your thumb over the stock puts potential bad energy into the stock that can badly affect your groups. Thumb over the stock is old-school shooting taught before precision bench rest shooting was a thing.
Yup, old school.... taught to me by my Uncle (WWII), Dad (WWII), and Grandpa (WWI) who were all reliable crack shots.... Helped me to represent my unit at the Bundeswahr's annual qualification shoot where I earned Top American Shooter Honors shooting all man carry capable weapons in the German Army. But, I agree, we each need shoot using techniques that work for us. Blessings.@@WHOTEEWHO
I'd like to see a few groups without the "noise abatement" device installed, just for fun ;) Curious if it'd change POI or group size... More Data, More Betta' LOL Also, I thought the "new" Core Loks had polymer tips?? Maybe not?? I've had good luck with them, in many rifles..
@@WHOTEEWHO good to know! My (vintage!) Savage 110 (270) shoots the original Core loks SO well (consistent 1/2 MOA), I can't get my hand loads to group as tight!
I would like to see you run some other ammunition through that thing. Personally, I would like to see how it groups Hornandy's 7mm-08 Rem 139 gr InterLock® SP American Whitetail®. It's a similar low budget round to the Core-Loct.
Gonna be takin a vacation next fall down that way may just have to make a trip to Tolivers while I'm there. Hopin ya may just happen to be there and get to meet ya 👊
I love your videos and watch them daily....however for us poorer fellas who dont have shusher cans....can we get a group test done with this rifle without the shusher....i just ordered this same rifle and want to see it group without the can...thanks and keep up the awesome vids
You probably done answered this question before but Im still gonna ask. Why dont you have any weight on the rest? Aint that rest designed to have weight put on it and strap the tool to it so the tool never moves when sighting it in?
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Pretty amazing results, and what a sweet package perfect for woods, clear cuts, open fields and any place that requires a good bit of hiking. Would have loved a rifle like this in my youth.
Ruger continues to impress with their innovation, and this video captures the essence of reliable performance.
I owned a Ruger Model77 since 1979 in 30-06 it has been the reason for a lot of meat in my freezer. And they were obtained with 180 grain ptd soft point core-lokt ammo the rifle and the ammo did it’s part 99% of the time if I did my part. A few yrs ago I gave this rifle to my son. And I hunt with a Tika in 270winchester and 130 grain core lokts work like a charm! Love this video! 👍👍😊
Thanks for watching!
My Tikka T3X Superlite in 7mm-08 really likes the Norma Whitetail 150 grain. Killed a big 200lb 9 pointer in PA with it this year!
Awesome
My 300 wsm loves the Norma ammo
Norma good stuff thick brass that Norma Always shoots in the Swede
Not only do you create an incredible amount of content, but your content has real value. Another great video WTW. Thank you.
I appreciate that!
I got one on order, A Howa barreled action, Retired all my magnums, At 55 years old, My joints and bones fill it when I squeeze the trigger, Enjoying the light recoiling calibers, Took me 40 or so years to figure out I didn’t need a magnum rifle to fill the freezer.
Suggestion: If you're wanting to reduce the effect of the barrel temperature variable in your testing, get a $15 IR thermometer from Harbor Freight and choose a location on the barrel to take measurements consistently. This way you can make sure the barrel has cooled sufficiently before the next group.
Sweet groups right there. A .8 group ain't nothing to sneeze at.
Considering how often you do this type of video and how consistent your process is, seems like the perfect oppurtunity to gather data on how a shusher machine affects grouping.
I’m sure he will cover that. In my experience, with a Banish 30, velocity hasn’t changed more than +\- 10 fps. Vertical point of impact is all I’ve seen shift much and it’s usually 1-1.5” high.
Perfect dude. We all chase that picture perfect group. It never happens over and over.
Excellent! Very excited about these Gen IIs. Also, I have a soft spot for the old 7-08; it is sort of getting “covered up” by the huge popularity of the 6.5 Creedmoor but it remains a peachy cartridge.
I read it’s still number 8 in the shooting world.
Awesome Shooting! Every time I see this new Gen 2 Ruger American I get all jittery and my wallet gets nervous 🤣
Ain’t that the truth lol …
@@tubbyshvfd9110 👍🏻😃
Love my Ruger American Gen 2 7mm-08.
When sighting it in last month, I was rewarded with some nice 100 yard groups.
I don't have calipers, I used a tape measure and my Mark 1 eyeball and measured a 3/4 inch group with Remington 140 gr. Core Lokts.
A really pleasant surprise was a 5/8 inch group with 140 gr. Federal Fusions!
They were my go to in my 243.
I noted that in your ammo test video with your Gen 1 Ruger American 7mm-08, you tried the 120 gr Fusions and it didn't like them. You should try the 140's in your Gen 2 and see how they shoot.
Love your videos WTW!
Got a Rem model 7 in the 708 that likes Rem 140gr. It has taken a lot of deer over the years.
Fantastic. Very well done. You are an excellent shot. Your hold & trigger pull were very consistent . I would think that had you fired more groups one of them would have been 025". However 0,82" average groups with a stock rifle and factory non-premium ammo is remarkable.
I think this is one of the best lower prices rifles! I love the 708 it's my favorite deer catcher but my 6.5 prc is close on its heels for the title. Darren
I am going to take a old Remington 721 that I got from a pawn shop and I am got a barrel coming for it to make a 280 AI this year it was the b model with a checker wood stock and I think it will be a fun project what do you think
My longtime favorite ammo in my Rem Mtn 700 7 08..since early 80s👍🏻🇺🇲
I view those groups a little differently. In my mind you just shot a 12 round group. If you were to measure the coordinates of each shot and calculate the ES and mean radius of the 12 rounds it would be an even more meaningful expression of the true bench rest precision of the rifle. Just guessing but the total 12rd group size looks to be around about 1.5” ish which is pretty dang impressive for that type of rifle and ammo.
You mentioned on some shots speculation if this one or that one was just “me”.
I see that a little differently too.. IMO every single impact is a byproduct of the system comprised of the ammo, the rifle, the rest, and you, and the conditions.
Quite literally, what you ate for breakfast that morning and how that affects your performance is even expressed in that 12rd group.
BTW… ain’t 708 grand?… I absolutely love that cartridge.
Cheers!
I got a 7mm-08 but very seldom shoot it my 308 is my go 2 for the simple reason really easy to get ammo for the 308 ,thanks for posting
Thanks for watching
Thanks Adam, always great videos!
Thanks for watching!
Bed the action and hand loads you can consistently get half inch groups I bet, awesome content.
7mm 08 is a damn good round! I own one, Rem 700 BDL, tack driver! 👍
WOW!! The rifling is on the outside.
I absolutely dont need this gun but its such a value to need to own.
Rounds 1&2 of the final and tightest group, look like they "keyholed"
I noticed it also. May need to look into that whoot.
Wtw load development? Now this is the content I’ve been waiting for!
Stay tuned
Awesome content as always. Looking forward to more. Thanks WHOTEEWHO
More to come!
Sharp looking rifle bro! 7mm-08 has been on my radar for a few years and I hope to join the club soon…
I joined in 1993. 👍
@@JamesJones-cx5pkI’m late to the party, but I’ve heard good things about the caliber
@@drolan1977 For deer there is nothing better.
Actually the 7mm-08 is the ballistic twin to the 7 x 57 Mauser. WDM William D. Bell brained many of the 1000 elephants he dropped with 175 grain round nose full metal jacket bullets.
And elephants are culled from helicopters using the 308 cartridge. I like 7mm-08 cartridge based on the 308 cartridge better though.
@@jeffreylocke8808 Good to know…thanks for the info
A fine flinger of lead !
I was wondering if the fluted twisted barrels would loose some accuracy, i guess they did.
Love it. Absolutely love it, i appreciate you getting real in detail about thia rifle. Awesome work man
Thanks for watching
You should look into a magnetospeed rifle Kuhl barrel cool especially for the hot days
Another great video. Can’t wait to see you Chronograph some ammo.
That is tomorrow's video
Great video and very informative, I was really curious how that would shoot with the barrel twist. I've been impressed with the rifle and how it has shot in the the videos so far. Thanks
Thanks for watching
Have you done any more ammo testing with this? I load the Sierra Game changers 165 g. for this and they should about a half inch group every time.
Some nice grouping.
I've been waiting for this one.
What a great comparison, how long did you let the rifle sit before you shot it ? Thanks for sharing . Cheers 🇨🇦
Maybe 10 mins
Would love to see ammo test for this rifle.
I hope Remington isn’t the only type of ammo we get to see run in it. We don’t see a whole lot of Remington ammo in my area and what little we do see usually isn’t for the caliber you’re looking for
Stay tuned for more
Keep looking, they are just getting back up to speed after the change of ownership ;)
Lets see some Barnes
I can’t wait to see some good ammo like Hornady, federal premium, Barnes, and nosler. Most likely not all of them but it would be nice to see a couple
Win pp should print the same maybe better ? Win a little thicker brass. Federal the thinnest
Very impressive. I'd try some groups without the can as well & see if there's any difference
Nice shooting WTW! I would love to see some match grade rounds group in this gun. Not sure what the Hornady ELDM weight is for 7mm-08 but I would love to see what it can do.
Like to see a 120 grain test if possible. Low recoil ammo
7mm-08 are real shooters you will find what it likes im sure. Thanks for the content!
Thanks for watching
Im really considering one of these. I tend to not even look at cheaper priced options just assuming they wont make me happy but there are not too many manufacturers offering this type of setup in 7mm-08. If Tikka had the T3X Roughteck available in the US with that cambering it would be an easy choice. But they dont seem to.
I think you should add some lead to the sled to stop it bouncing around
What are the trigger length pulls adjustments? Just two? Or they reduce in 1/2” increments?
Thanks
Just received L.O.P. kit today. Kit includes, one 1.5 inch spacer, and one .75 inch spacer. They are black. Not matching camouflage.
Question. With all of your Rugers, have you ever noticed any trend with the more ammo you put through them they get a bit more accurate? I've noticed it in many rifles, both factory, and custom, the latter, to a lesser degree.
Haven't noticed
@@JamesClark-lw6sw Me? Yes, I have
Commented on a earlier comment here but I own 2 American predator rifles in 6.5 and 7mm-08 and both of them got more and more accurate through the first 60 - 80 rounds. Both tightened up significantly
@@JamesClark-lw6sw Yes I did
That was a fun video thanks!
Thanks for watching
Be interesting what different grains would do.
Good video and information. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching
Ok,,did I miss the chrono readings out of the short barrel?
No. That is tonight's video
I’ve noticed lately I wait to hear the song.
Did you lighten the trigger yet? If not you need to try an mcarbo trigger spring. They are amazing and super easy to put it.
Not yet
@@WHOTEEWHO Is it not an adjustable trigger?
I've hot the Ruger predator in 6 creed more with the Taken 6/24 scope, it shoots good, Arken, gotta love spell check
In all these videos the earlier made ruger American and Ruger American predators rifles seem to be way more accurate than the newer gen ii.
I wonder if the Ruger Precision Rifle AI-Style 10 round mags will work in the new gen 2 americans.
Like that Caldwell sled over the stinger? Can't decide which one I want..
Both work. Stinger is cheaper. Dft 2 is sturdier with more adjustment
7mm-08 is such an underrated hunting round.
Yup
Best tuber on the internet .👍👏🇺🇦😎
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Wow very nice! Ruger is really nice!❤
I'm sold. God bless brother. Love from Jamaica 🇯🇲
Thanks for watching
I see on the Ruger website that the 7.62 X 39 model comes with mini 30 mags. I guess it makes sense for them to just grab them out of the pile and throwing them in the box with the gun, but AICS mags make more sense to me.
Unless you are a Ruger guy, and already have a mini 30 and a bunch of mags ;) I just picked up a Ruger American Predator in .223 that uses AR mags, mainly because I already have a bunch, and ammo.. and dies.. :)
I can't find remington core loct 7mm-08 around where I live
Found it here locally. Also always on their website
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
Great info ,looking to get the gen2 in .556 or 6.5 creedmoor
Impressive. Good stuff. Thank you.
I'm watching you pull the trigger and noticed that you use a hold where you have your thumb laying atop the pistol grip/comb.... I have seen that position a lot with bench shooters. I was taught and continue to use a grip where my thumb circles the top of the stock, giving more of a "lock" (or pressure) on the stock and providing a more consistent (IMHO) position from which I pull the trigger. I'm wondering if you use the same hand hold when hunting? I suspect not because, when hunting, you are holding the rifle stock with your right hand and the forearm with your left.... giving you solid control of your rifle when out in the field. Just thought that, perhaps, you'd like to think of the differences in your rifle "hold" and how it may affect your trigger pull. Your new Gen II is giving plenty good groups as is and I'd sure accept it as a great hunting rifle.
I went from a borrowed 30-30 Marlin to my own personal 7mm WM and could get groups down to 1".... but this "kid" asked for, and was given, too much rifle (should have been something like a 7x57 for better consistency).... after a lot of shooting... and some informed coaching from from shooters while in the USAF (of all things....), when I returned home to hunting with that 7mmRM... my groups dropped to 1/2" with a finely tuned original Ruger M77. Most of that was my insuring a consistent hold and position on the cheek piece. Blessings, Brother, I always enjoy your videos. The Gen II, in 7mm-08 would be my choice for a hunter if I wasn't wedded to my .270.
I was taught wrapping your thumb over the stock puts potential bad energy into the stock that can badly affect your groups. Thumb over the stock is old-school shooting taught before precision bench rest shooting was a thing.
Yup, old school.... taught to me by my Uncle (WWII), Dad (WWII), and Grandpa (WWI) who were all reliable crack shots.... Helped me to represent my unit at the Bundeswahr's annual qualification shoot where I earned Top American Shooter Honors shooting all man carry capable weapons in the German Army. But, I agree, we each need shoot using techniques that work for us. Blessings.@@WHOTEEWHO
Seems like a good upgrade, but if its in the same $ category I'd probably still prefer the cascade.
👍👍 me too
I'd like to see a few groups without the "noise abatement" device installed, just for fun ;) Curious if it'd change POI or group size... More Data, More Betta' LOL
Also, I thought the "new" Core Loks had polymer tips?? Maybe not?? I've had good luck with them, in many rifles..
That is corelokt tipped ammo. Different bullet. They still make this and the tipped stuff. Separate ammo lines
@@WHOTEEWHO good to know! My (vintage!) Savage 110 (270) shoots the original Core loks SO well (consistent 1/2 MOA), I can't get my hand loads to group as tight!
looks like its breaking in a little bit ???
How do you like the ARKEN Scope?
Love it
I would like to see you run some other ammunition through that thing. Personally, I would like to see how it groups Hornandy's 7mm-08 Rem 139 gr InterLock® SP American Whitetail®. It's a similar low budget round to the Core-Loct.
Stay tuned
Gonna be takin a vacation next fall down that way may just have to make a trip to Tolivers while I'm there. Hopin ya may just happen to be there and get to meet ya 👊
Tell em I said hey. Good chance I'll be there 😆
I love your videos and watch them daily....however for us poorer fellas who dont have shusher cans....can we get a group test done with this rifle without the shusher....i just ordered this same rifle and want to see it group without the can...thanks and keep up the awesome vids
130 grain Speer spbt on top of 42 grain of Varget..
TRY IT
Working on it
What overall length?
Great Stuff Adam 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
I wonder if the Gen II stock would be compatible with a Gen I barrel and action??
Very impressive WTW 🇺🇸👊
Hey Jeffrey
I broke my gen 2 7mm 08, Remington Core lokt 130 gr and 150 gr Norma white tail. Off home made Sand bag's 3/4"100 yards.
Does the gen 2 action run better than the gen 1? That's the only thing that scares me in the American line.
The action has been smoothed considerably. No more ZIP, ZIP machine marks.
Id like to see a few different brands run through it tonsee if it has a preference for different ammo.
Stay tuned
Put some lead on the sled ?
Do u ever use Winchester deer season ammo
I have before
Is that scope first focal plane? How do you like it
I’m curious how it does without the quieterdowner
Impressive ammo and rifle for the price.
@whoteewho would you rather have a gen 2 or a cva cascade. I’m going to get one of the 2. Lmk what you would prefer
Cva
@@WHOTEEWHOI agree with you. The CVA is great. I have one in 6.5 creedmore and just picked up the XT version in 300 PRC
You probably done answered this question before but Im still gonna ask. Why dont you have any weight on the rest? Aint that rest designed to have weight put on it and strap the tool to it so the tool never moves when sighting it in?
I have some weights. Just another thing to lug out to the range
Do you have any plans to run some groups without the can vs with?
Barrel length is a deal breaker for me.
Looks like a shooter.
Need to find some 🦌🦌🦌
Wonder if that barrel needs broken in?
Nope
@WHOTEEWHO mentioned that because groups seemed to get better more you shot it. I like that stock alot.
Seems like Remington has or is getting back to quality ammo
Try some 160gr r 165gr bullets my 7mm-08 likes them heavy ones
I just got some heavies to load
Whotee the Sniper!
Sooo love your stuff. I have an idea. Instead of four three shot groups. Fire one 12 shot group.
You can fly a plane between the scope and the barrel. He still shoots better than I do though.
Cool stuff! 😀
Last group was a dandy