These actually *ARE* production boats...now made in Turkey apparently along with many other of this type most well known be #bering I imagine but yes not a fan of these traditional bow designs at all as massive amount of wasted space created by what not wrong to say *"good sea keeping"* which does matter in an Expedition Class Yacht which this is absolutely very good one one of the best actually 😊😊
Great review have been watching AwanuiNZ on TH-cam. They bought the Nordhavn 51, Hull #1! What an adventure they are having traveling from Turkey, all over Europe and eventually back to their home in New Zealand. Love Nordhavn!
Another great review as always Jack👌A Nordhavn has been a dream of mine since I first saw one 20 or so years ago that N51 just keeps the dream alive.Maybe one day 🙏🏻
The N51 is the smallest medel in the new generation of Nordhavns that can give you a feeling of a proper cross-ocean yacht. The N41 is gorgeous but it's just too small that it even doesn't have a pilot house, let alone the laundry room and so on. Adding 10 feet makes a huge difference that N51 just looks like a different kind of boat.
I like it! I watched the owner video from hull #2, and he had a ton of commissioning problems after it was delivered, which made me wonder how normal that was, and if the yard had sorted their quality procedures out.
Thanks for the review, Jack - Love your work! I think this particular Nordhavn N51 is stunning, however, the only thing I'd add is maybe have double helm seats on the flybridge - If Nordhavn has the option to add an extra helm chair, I would seriously consider buying one - perfect for "America's Great Loop" (I'd also want to add a bimini enclosure for the flybridge)
very nice. I also like the look of the Sasga Menorquin 55 FB. Suspect the quality isn't the same but seems to offer much of the same functionality (except for range) and a more elegant look for a fair bit less £
awesome content great tour. It is nice, but just a little tight for my taste, but it would not be a deal breaker. However I would rather have maybe a size up around 65'.
No fixed seating in the aft cockpit & the bow bench are brilliant- the most Zen view is almost always back to the wake or from the very front. Separate washer & dryer in the engine room is also eminently practical; those combo units are useless for drying & the noisy cycle takes HOURS. Love the huge single sink in the galley, too. Clearly listened to their clients' feedback. Kudos Nordhavn.
I sail a very old Beneteau First 501. I would like to change to a motor yacht as seventy is behind me. A couple could spend a long time aboard a yacht like this. I suggested to my wife that we could sell the Beneteau for about 5% of the Nordhavn and make up the rest. We could sell the house and cash in everything that the kids and grandchildren were going to get. The nurse says that I should be good to go home in a couple of days. This is my kind of motor yacht but not my kind of budget.😂
Funnily enough there is a young couple on TH-cam who did just that - sold everything to live and cruise the world aboard their 40ft Nordhavn. Search for the channel "MV Freedom", I think you'll enjoy it! - Jack
That's an incredible boat. Yes, it is over 2 million, but there's a lot of boat for the money. Pretty much the only thing this demo boat is lacking is a MF/HF (GMDSS) on the bridge, other than that I'd be happy to take it over the Atlantic. The other thing that I noticed was that does the N51 have a good spot for the compacted trash? During longer voyages that becomes a problem and larger transatlantic yachts have dedicated freezers for that.
Definately a Nordhavn, you can see in its DNA that its made to go tough for a long time, and an exemplary review from Jack, no faffing about, just get to the facts. cheers Jack
rly nice galley on this one esp for a 50 footer. this is a perfect starter yacht lol. i like the sneaky ways they got as much interior volume as possible like moving the floor of the side deck and bow upwards.
Great review as always jack 👍👍. Saw both your review the hardy 50 and this nohavn 50. I prefer the hardy 50 layout. Which do you like?? And which little ship seem more robust ?? Thank you watching you from San Francisco 😄
Would love to have seen: 1. The cockpit cleats recessed into the bulkhead so wobbly-legged lubbers don’t scrape their shins on them; and 2. That pilot house dinette table slide north-south, to facilitate easier ingress when rocking at sea; and 3. All that pretty walnut in the pilot house should be black/dark grey (sorry, less pretty but way better at night); and 4. NON-recessed overhead grab rails in the salon. Recessed grab rails; really silly. Other than that, yup, it’s a rock-solid, SAFE long-hauler, and that’s what you’re paying $2mm for. Safety and dependability.
As nice and as capable as this is I'd still take a Fleming over a Nordhavn any day. The extra speed that a semi displacement hull gives you is godsend when you need to outrun some bad weather. A great review as always Jack. Thanks
Thank you for the detailed tour. It is a great-looking boat. Do you think a yacht (70>ft) requires a crew? Nice to see they went with twin main engines, a rare find on older Nordhavn's
The problem Nordhavn have is they've consistently & thoroughly spoilt their followers with exquisite luxury finishing both inside & out, which is why the exterior of this offering, with its endless blanketing of white sterile plastic, gives the impression that it's a Nordhavn that's been stripped & looted. The interior was uninspiring too & would definitely benefit from a bit more elbow room on the beam. In conclusion, it looks overpriced.
Yet another sensible tour, the kind YachtBuyer is becoming known for. Even with the wide angle lens, it feels a bit cramped as a liveaboard to me. Perhaps they are hoping to compete, layout feature by feather, with 56 or 58 footers. The fly bridge looked overly bright indeed, even via the camera. I'll look forward to how you spec its rivals, Jack. Thanks for the tour!
Nor one of your speedy Lady's of the Sea. She a explorer, a Norhaven who moves at the speed that allows you to take in your surroundings. Her exterior is practical with safety in mind. The Flybridge has the greatest view. But the interior is contemporary, stylish light colored wood. Love the master cabin at the front, lots of storage for long term voyages. The salon and galley very family oriented, very sociable space. The guest cabin is not as large but more than adequate, twin or double beds. Engine room, accessable to inspect everything for an owner owed boat. The only thing I'm not keen on is all the white it would be headaches inducing for me. But apart from that I like her.
A 54 or 57 in this new style would be roomier and more ideal to spend a month or two on the water. I think them not adding a cover for the flybridge was a big miss.
Im new to all of this. Can someone explain why people love Nordhavn? Is Bering better or worse? What are the ferraris and what are the toyotas and what are the 90s Sköda of various yacht makers?
It's a beauty, isn't she!? There are some bus length luxury campers that are in the 2 million range and nowhere as pretty or comfortable. I don't know the maintenance costs but 100k a year sounds a bit too much. Just imagine from Miami to Portugal, what a fantastic trip!!
"designed to clear that away"... yea, every time I see loose furniture on a yacht, I wonder... where in heaven's name are they gonna put it all when underway in not-so-nice weather? Great tour as always :)
I could never afford a boat like that, but I'm always dissapointed with the lack of storage on this sze of boat. If you lived aboard for periods of time, where would you store all the things that comes with normal life? Instead you get a day head in addition to two ensuites ... feels like the wrong priority to me
I would take that day head out wich is kinda redundant and make that the laundry room and put a tool chest and work bench where the washer and dryer are now
Jack, I’m curious, in regards to Marine Propulsion development what is your opinion in regards to paradigm shift in regards to hybrid power, full electric or hydrogen for marine engines for mass produced boats? I see some brands like Greenline are innovators in this area and both Beneteau & Volvo are moving to produce hybrid technology boats Do marine engines have manufacturing links with car companies for engines and why does the marine industry imho seem to be several years behind the car industry in this development? Would we ever see in the near future systems like say Toyota hybrids or like Nissan hybrid technology in marine engines for mass produced boats? For example I own a Nissan e-XTrail, it has an electric engines on front & rear axles with a petrol engine NOT connected to the drive train but is connected to to battery, so system uses petrol to generate electricity to battery to drive electric engines for propulsion, advantage is pure linear power & fuel economy. Love to see you address this in your You Tube channel presentations.
That is a great comment that raises many important questions. There's more to cover here than is feasible for a TH-cam comment but it's a great idea for a video and we'll have a think about how we can approach this. It's an exciting space and one I'd like to cover in greater detail. Cheers - Jack
G’day Jack. A question that I can’t quite get my head around. This yacht has twin 160’s. Why wouldn’t it perform the same with twin say twin 175hp outboards? Cheers, Michael 🇦🇺
To answer your query and sorry for the long reply but its not a quick answer: Design Philosophy Displacement boats like the Nordhavn 51 are built for long-range cruising and efficiency, not high speeds. Their hull design and propulsion systems are optimized for steady, economical operation over long distances. Efficiency and Range Inboard diesel engines are significantly more fuel-efficient than outboard motors, especially at the low speeds typical of displacement hulls. This allows for much greater range, which is crucial for long-distance passagemaking. Reliability and Durability Marine diesel engines are renowned for their reliability and longevity. They are designed to run continuously for extended periods, which is essential for ocean crossings and extended cruising. Propeller Design Displacement hulls work best with large, slow-turning propellers. Inboard engines allow for optimal propeller placement and size, which is not possible with outboards. Noise and Vibration Inboard engines, when properly installed, produce less noise and vibration compared to outboards, enhancing comfort during long voyages. Seaworthiness Having the engines inside the hull, below the waterline, improves stability and handling in rough seas. Outboards would be exposed and vulnerable in heavy weather. Fuel Capacity Inboard engines allow for much larger fuel tanks to be integrated into the hull design, which is crucial for the long-range capabilities of vessels like the Nordhavn 51 Power Characteristics The John Deere engines used in the Nordhavn 51 are chosen for their low-end torque and ability to operate efficiently at low RPMs, which is ideal for displacement hulls. Outboard motors are generally designed for higher RPM operation. While outboard motors have their place in certain types of boats, they are not suitable for the design goals and intended use of displacement trawlers like the Nordhavn 51. The inboard diesel engine configuration is fundamental to achieving the long-range, efficient, and seaworthy characteristics that define these vessels.
@@Leosarebetter So technically, hp is hp and the outboards could propel this yacht at similar speeds, it’s just that outboards are not as well suited to the task at hand?
@@SpatialGuy77 HP is HP - but torque (which outboards dont have in comparison) and propeller size/pitch and hull design are some of the deciding factors. Personally i have always lent towards diesel engine, either leg or shaft drive over any outboard petrol or (aghast) inboard petrol. Carrying around a few tonne of very high explosive fuel where just one spark will go BOOM is not my idea of relaxation.
Because torque. The gardeners are large capacity but low output diesel engines that produce a very large amount of torque at low revs compared to the petroleum outboards that produce a very low amount of torque and rev much higher to produce the same power (power is just torque times revs). Bottom line is the large propellers on the Nordhavn could not be turned by the little outboards. The outboards are better suited to light vessels designed to place and reach far higher speeds
These are certainly sturdy, well built long range cruisers, but to my eye these yachts are only attractive in a functional way. And they are sloooooow. Yes 6-8 knots is efficient but if you have to zip along to react to an onboard emergency or to beat bad weather or get a port in a hurry for any reason you cannot do it. My choice would be a boat like a Fleming. All the strength, similar efficiency and the ability to speed up if necessary. But the right boat for the right owner.
Nordhavns are nice but so damn slow. I get it’s a long range yacht but tops out at 11kts… at some point you want to get somewhere. I couldn’t do a 20 hour passage Miami to key west.
Nice roomy boat just under the typical european 15m limit, good but too fast speaking review. As an engineer I would be worried with the building process, or actually assembly structure, moulding port side and stb side separately and putting them together afterwards; does it hold up over time. Also, have seen rust on the stanchion base on a N41 after just one year, so maybe turkish stainless is less good.
As a former N47 and N57 owner all you need to know is listen to the cheap RV crap fiberboard cabinets opening and closing. Sounds like a catamaran. Spend your 2 mil on a real N from 15 years ago. Made in Turkey? Bwahaha.
This is a very niche boat, doesnt look like or even feels like fun, its too serious but i am sure, no other boat can compete with it sea faring, they forgot to add joy and excitement into it.
This boat has many issues. The first is anyone over 6 feet tall is toast, the second is you have to sit on your bum to do the laundry, the third is there is no space for privacy, not even a little office or map cabin. 😞 P. S. if all you want to do is cross the Atlantic you can do it a lot cheaper by cruise ship, and faster by air.
I like it but then I don't the glass im the galley won't last the wood tone not me looks like tru by hilton interior the new fresh and cramped revealing head front stateroom again it's not my cup of tea I like the 47 55 62 or kady 55 58 or nord 52 but yes lovely boat just not for me and the berth in the pilot house etc looks goid but chincy too but for 51 feet and 3k range ok
Way over priced! I have been following hull number one and while the owner does a wonderful job with the sailing and filming, I was disappointed with the problems with the build and quality of some of the equipment and work done at their factory in Turkey. I have loved Nordhavn since I went aboard a 46 years ago and have dreamed about owning one, but the “low cost production” boat I just don’t know.
Very disappointing, It reminds me of a camper built in the 70’s The veneer is cheap looking and again, looks like leftovers from a basement remodel job with paneling bought from a triangle lumber yard. My dreamboat is a Nordhavn but this just does not make it for me.
You cannot be serious. "Attract at younger public" at the same time the price "FROM TWO point TWO MILLION DOLLARS" show up on the screen. Which young public can pay a tenth of that amount, which also need like a budget of 100 K a year in service costs? What a joke.
Some Young Kick streamers come to mind. Aiden Ross earns $100mil a year. Some others earn $5-10 mil It's not your Fathers economy anymore. I didn't even mention the Crypto (scammers) millionaire's 😂🤣😝💰😎
Very disappointing outside spaces, not inviting at all to spend long periods of time outside, eating, lounging etc. Just looks like a very expensive fishing trawler tbh.😢
Read our in-depth REVIEW with pricing, rivals, deck plans and data: www.yachtbuyer.com/en/reviews/nordhavn-51-2022
These actually *ARE* production boats...now made in Turkey apparently along with many other of this type most well known be #bering I imagine but yes not a fan of these traditional bow designs at all as massive amount of wasted space created by what not wrong to say *"good sea keeping"* which does matter in an Expedition Class Yacht which this is absolutely very good one one of the best actually 😊😊
I love the way you put a diagram alongside the video to orientate the viewer as to where you are on the boat.
Thanks, glad it’s helpful! - J
yes,excellent for quick orientation
Great review have been watching AwanuiNZ on TH-cam. They bought the Nordhavn 51, Hull #1! What an adventure they are having traveling from Turkey, all over Europe and eventually back to their home in New Zealand. Love Nordhavn!
Great job in presenting our new Nordhavn 51 model. Thank you Jack! Dan Streech
Thanks Dan, glad you liked the video. - Jack
Brilliant tour as always Jack, thanks.
Certainly looked and felt like a Nordhavn with a modern twist - perfect I’d say!
Definitely a Nordhavn, beautiful throughout with nice finishes and a nice layout. Nice tour Jack thank you.
Our pleasure Sean, cheers! - Jack
Another great review as always Jack👌A Nordhavn has been a dream of mine since I first saw one 20 or so years ago that N51 just keeps the dream alive.Maybe one day 🙏🏻
The N51 is the smallest medel in the new generation of Nordhavns that can give you a feeling of a proper cross-ocean yacht.
The N41 is gorgeous but it's just too small that it even doesn't have a pilot house, let alone the laundry room and so on. Adding 10 feet makes a huge difference that N51 just looks like a different kind of boat.
Agreed, they've used the extra space well - Jack
You clearly have the best job in the world! Fantastic vessels that you review!
Love all of it. It's not trying to look like a house. I like the idea of no free standing furniture.
I like it! I watched the owner video from hull #2, and he had a ton of commissioning problems after it was delivered, which made me wonder how normal that was, and if the yard had sorted their quality procedures out.
Nice yacht. Thanks for the tour.
My pleasure, John! - J
Yeah that's gorgeous and perfect size too. ❤️🇬🇧
thanks for this one, jack. been waiting for this one.
My pleasure! - J
Thanks for the review, Jack - Love your work! I think this particular Nordhavn N51 is stunning, however, the only thing I'd add is maybe have double helm seats on the flybridge - If Nordhavn has the option to add an extra helm chair, I would seriously consider buying one - perfect for "America's Great Loop" (I'd also want to add a bimini enclosure for the flybridge)
Cheers Craig, I believe both of those are options - Jack
@@Yachtbuyerwhat is the draft ? And air draft
Beautiful, strong, perfect LRC for an active couple with occasional guests or family of 4.
The Mercedes air vents in the cockpit are a quirky touch.
Proper little ship. Nice one 👍 ... 🇬🇧
very nice. I also like the look of the Sasga Menorquin 55 FB. Suspect the quality isn't the same but seems to offer much of the same functionality (except for range) and a more elegant look for a fair bit less £
Agreed, they have real charm. A very different proposition to this but something a bit different - Jack
Huge Nord fan, and this is a great look for the brand.
awesome content great tour. It is nice, but just a little tight for my taste, but it would not be a deal breaker. However I would rather have maybe a size up around 65'.
Oooh baby, that´s my Nordhavn.....love it
Have watched Awanui NZ TH-cam video since the build started in Turkey. Very impressive. Great balance between practical and luxury.
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No fixed seating in the aft cockpit & the bow bench are brilliant- the most Zen view is almost always back to the wake or from the very front. Separate washer & dryer in the engine room is also eminently practical; those combo units are useless for drying & the noisy cycle takes HOURS. Love the huge single sink in the galley, too. Clearly listened to their clients' feedback. Kudos Nordhavn.
I sail a very old Beneteau First 501. I would like to change to a motor yacht as seventy is behind me. A couple could spend a long time aboard a yacht like this. I suggested to my wife that we could sell the Beneteau for about 5% of the Nordhavn and make up the rest. We could sell the house and cash in everything that the kids and grandchildren were going to get. The nurse says that I should be good to go home in a couple of days. This is my kind of motor yacht but not my kind of budget.😂
Funnily enough there is a young couple on TH-cam who did just that - sold everything to live and cruise the world aboard their 40ft Nordhavn. Search for the channel "MV Freedom", I think you'll enjoy it! - Jack
I love it, could be my new favorite, two John deeres lol ❤
That's an incredible boat. Yes, it is over 2 million, but there's a lot of boat for the money. Pretty much the only thing this demo boat is lacking is a MF/HF (GMDSS) on the bridge, other than that I'd be happy to take it over the Atlantic.
The other thing that I noticed was that does the N51 have a good spot for the compacted trash? During longer voyages that becomes a problem and larger transatlantic yachts have dedicated freezers for that.
It's got a large amount of storage in the lazarette that could probably be put to use for that... - Jack
Definately a Nordhavn, you can see in its DNA that its made to go tough for a long time, and an exemplary review from Jack, no faffing about, just get to the facts. cheers Jack
Thank you very much for this video!
It's our pleasure!
rly nice galley on this one esp for a 50 footer. this is a perfect starter yacht lol. i like the sneaky ways they got as much interior volume as possible like moving the floor of the side deck and bow upwards.
Great review as always jack 👍👍. Saw both your review the hardy 50 and this nohavn 50. I prefer the hardy 50 layout. Which do you like?? And which little ship seem more robust ?? Thank you watching you from San Francisco 😄
Would love to have seen: 1. The cockpit cleats recessed into the bulkhead so wobbly-legged lubbers don’t scrape their shins on them; and 2. That pilot house dinette table slide north-south, to facilitate easier ingress when rocking at sea; and 3. All that pretty walnut in the pilot house should be black/dark grey (sorry, less pretty but way better at night); and 4. NON-recessed overhead grab rails in the salon. Recessed grab rails; really silly. Other than that, yup, it’s a rock-solid, SAFE long-hauler, and that’s what you’re paying $2mm for. Safety and dependability.
Great video!
Thanks!
As nice and as capable as this is I'd still take a Fleming over a Nordhavn any day. The extra speed that a semi displacement hull gives you is godsend when you need to outrun some bad weather.
A great review as always Jack. Thanks
@@matthewmartin1970 You can't always outrun a storm mid Atlantic. They're both great boats. Pity that I can't afford either. Nice to dream though.
@ianscott3180 not always but sometimes
Absolutely fantastic! And I assume conveyor belt production means cheaper product!
Great video. Great boat.
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Thank you for the detailed tour. It is a great-looking boat. Do you think a yacht (70>ft) requires a crew? Nice to see they went with twin main engines, a rare find on older Nordhavn's
Good review Jack 👍
Thanks 👍
The problem Nordhavn have is they've consistently & thoroughly spoilt their followers with exquisite luxury finishing both inside & out, which is why the exterior of this offering, with its endless blanketing of white sterile plastic, gives the impression that it's a Nordhavn that's been stripped & looted.
The interior was uninspiring too & would definitely benefit from a bit more elbow room on the beam.
In conclusion, it looks overpriced.
Nice bout to expplore beet places of Fuerteventura )
Great boat. great review.
Thanks!
Yet another sensible tour, the kind YachtBuyer is becoming known for. Even with the wide angle lens, it feels a bit cramped as a liveaboard to me. Perhaps they are hoping to compete, layout feature by feather, with 56 or 58 footers. The fly bridge looked overly bright indeed, even via the camera. I'll look forward to how you spec its rivals, Jack. Thanks for the tour!
Thanks Jack, glad you like our approach - Jack
Nor one of your speedy Lady's of the Sea. She a explorer, a Norhaven who moves at the speed that allows you to take in your surroundings. Her exterior is practical with safety in mind. The Flybridge has the greatest view.
But the interior is contemporary, stylish light colored wood. Love the master cabin at the front, lots of storage for long term voyages. The salon and galley very family oriented, very sociable space. The guest cabin is not as large but more than adequate, twin or double beds.
Engine room, accessable to inspect everything for an owner owed boat.
The only thing I'm not keen on is all the white it would be headaches inducing for me. But apart from that I like her.
Someday I'll have a Nordhaven!
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The old 50 had less internal space, but a Portuguese bridge. For ocean going I would not want to do without.
A 54 or 57 in this new style would be roomier and more ideal to spend a month or two on the water. I think them not adding a cover for the flybridge was a big miss.
Tremendous boat.
The stabilisers aren’t zero speed, so they only work when under way.
Thanks Jack! 😅
Cheers Chris!
Definitely a Nordhaven, but I would be less keen on not having a steel hull (if I could afford either!).
Im new to all of this. Can someone explain why people love Nordhavn? Is Bering better or worse? What are the ferraris and what are the toyotas and what are the 90s Sköda of various yacht makers?
Could you review the Nordhavn 625?
We’d love to!
Awanui NZ has a sibling.
It's a beauty, isn't she!? There are some bus length luxury campers that are in the 2 million range and nowhere as pretty or comfortable. I don't know the maintenance costs but 100k a year sounds a bit too much. Just imagine from Miami to Portugal, what a fantastic trip!!
I was wondering, could a single person manage to take this boat on a transatlantic passage?
"designed to clear that away"... yea, every time I see loose furniture on a yacht, I wonder... where in heaven's name are they gonna put it all when underway in not-so-nice weather? Great tour as always :)
Thanks!
I could never afford a boat like that, but I'm always dissapointed with the lack of storage on this sze of boat. If you lived aboard for periods of time, where would you store all the things that comes with normal life? Instead you get a day head in addition to two ensuites ... feels like the wrong priority to me
What? No hanging locker in the midship cabin? Outragious! I'm saving my money for something else (probably shoes.)
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Its definitely built for passage making as all nordhavn yachts are but for 2.2 million ,none of that money was spent on the outside seating
I would take that day head out wich is kinda redundant and make that the laundry room and put a tool chest and work bench where the washer and dryer are now
Jack, I’m curious, in regards to Marine Propulsion development what is your opinion in regards to paradigm shift in regards to hybrid power, full electric or hydrogen for marine engines for mass produced boats?
I see some brands like Greenline are innovators in this area and both Beneteau & Volvo are moving to produce hybrid technology boats
Do marine engines have manufacturing links with car companies for engines and why does the marine industry imho seem to be several years behind the car industry in this development?
Would we ever see in the near future systems like say Toyota hybrids or like Nissan hybrid technology in marine engines for mass produced boats?
For example I own a Nissan e-XTrail, it has an electric engines on front & rear axles with a petrol engine NOT connected to the drive train but is connected to to battery, so system uses petrol to generate electricity to battery to drive electric engines for propulsion, advantage is pure linear power & fuel economy.
Love to see you address this in your You Tube channel presentations.
That is a great comment that raises many important questions. There's more to cover here than is feasible for a TH-cam comment but it's a great idea for a video and we'll have a think about how we can approach this. It's an exciting space and one I'd like to cover in greater detail. Cheers - Jack
G’day Jack. A question that I can’t quite get my head around. This yacht has twin 160’s. Why wouldn’t it perform the same with twin say twin 175hp outboards? Cheers, Michael 🇦🇺
To answer your query and sorry for the long reply but its not a quick answer:
Design Philosophy
Displacement boats like the Nordhavn 51 are built for long-range cruising and efficiency, not high speeds. Their hull design and propulsion systems are optimized for steady, economical operation over long distances.
Efficiency and Range
Inboard diesel engines are significantly more fuel-efficient than outboard motors, especially at the low speeds typical of displacement hulls. This allows for much greater range, which is crucial for long-distance passagemaking.
Reliability and Durability
Marine diesel engines are renowned for their reliability and longevity. They are designed to run continuously for extended periods, which is essential for ocean crossings and extended cruising.
Propeller Design
Displacement hulls work best with large, slow-turning propellers. Inboard engines allow for optimal propeller placement and size, which is not possible with outboards.
Noise and Vibration
Inboard engines, when properly installed, produce less noise and vibration compared to outboards, enhancing comfort during long voyages.
Seaworthiness
Having the engines inside the hull, below the waterline, improves stability and handling in rough seas. Outboards would be exposed and vulnerable in heavy weather.
Fuel Capacity
Inboard engines allow for much larger fuel tanks to be integrated into the hull design, which is crucial for the long-range capabilities of vessels like the Nordhavn 51
Power Characteristics
The John Deere engines used in the Nordhavn 51 are chosen for their low-end torque and ability to operate efficiently at low RPMs, which is ideal for displacement hulls. Outboard motors are generally designed for higher RPM operation. While outboard motors have their place in certain types of boats, they are not suitable for the design goals and intended use of displacement trawlers like the Nordhavn 51. The inboard diesel engine configuration is fundamental to achieving the long-range, efficient, and seaworthy characteristics that define these vessels.
Excellent answer from @Leosarebetter. Couldn’t have put it better myself! - Jack
@@Leosarebetter So technically, hp is hp and the outboards could propel this yacht at similar speeds, it’s just that outboards are not as well suited to the task at hand?
@@SpatialGuy77 HP is HP - but torque (which outboards dont have in comparison) and propeller size/pitch and hull design are some of the deciding factors. Personally i have always lent towards diesel engine, either leg or shaft drive over any outboard petrol or (aghast) inboard petrol. Carrying around a few tonne of very high explosive fuel where just one spark will go BOOM is not my idea of relaxation.
Because torque. The gardeners are large capacity but low output diesel engines that produce a very large amount of torque at low revs compared to the petroleum outboards that produce a very low amount of torque and rev much higher to produce the same power (power is just torque times revs). Bottom line is the large propellers on the Nordhavn could not be turned by the little outboards. The outboards are better suited to light vessels designed to place and reach far higher speeds
The telly is on the wrong side.
Prefer a Bering Nordhavn sometimes too utilitarian it is still well built though but accommodation is poor for a 51ft boat
There are some weird things about it. For example you don’t need 3 heads and the forward cabin has no headroom to sit up in bed
Great loop capable ? 19 foot air draft max n chicago
The air draft is 18ft with the arch down 👍
Can I get one for Christmas please
Serious chimney at your place? - J
These are certainly sturdy, well built long range cruisers, but to my eye these yachts are only attractive in a functional way. And they are sloooooow. Yes 6-8 knots is efficient but if you have to zip along to react to an onboard emergency or to beat bad weather or get a port in a hurry for any reason you cannot do it. My choice would be a boat like a Fleming. All the strength, similar efficiency and the ability to speed up if necessary. But the right boat for the right owner.
Nordhavns are nice but so damn slow. I get it’s a long range yacht but tops out at 11kts… at some point you want to get somewhere. I couldn’t do a 20 hour passage Miami to key west.
"Is it still a Nordhavn?" You seem a bit simple there, sonny. If it was Nordhavn who designed and built it, then it's probably still a Nordhavn.
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Nice roomy boat just under the typical european 15m limit, good but too fast speaking review. As an engineer I would be worried with the building process, or actually assembly structure, moulding port side and stb side separately and putting them together afterwards; does it hold up over time. Also, have seen rust on the stanchion base on a N41 after just one year, so maybe turkish stainless is less good.
Fair point, it was quite quick as were under pressure to shoot before the boa got busy. Will keep in mind for next time - Jack
Top speed is only 11 kn ? well I guess I just won’t able to pick up any women with this particular yacht. Nice walk-through Cheers, Jack.
Slow and steady on this one, Jeff... - Jack
Can't help thinking that this looks like a Nordhavn copy built by Bavaria boats.
No way would i pay that amount of money for that boat. I wanted to love it but hate it.
Why?
As a former N47 and N57 owner all you need to know is listen to the cheap RV crap fiberboard cabinets opening and closing. Sounds like a catamaran. Spend your 2 mil on a real N from 15 years ago. Made in Turkey? Bwahaha.
Was watching this thinking not a Nordharven of old for sure. All the redundancy gone. Agree on going older.
The interior woodwork looks like some cheap early 70’s furniture.
This is a very niche boat, doesnt look like or even feels like fun, its too serious but i am sure, no other boat can compete with it sea faring, they forgot to add joy and excitement into it.
A pocket explorer for the filthy rich young buyer? Mmmm 🤔
A Nordhavn passage maker without a Portuguese Bridge. Not for me.
This boat has many issues. The first is anyone over 6 feet tall is toast, the second is you have to sit on your bum to do the laundry, the third is there is no space for privacy, not even a little office or map cabin. 😞 P. S. if all you want to do is cross the Atlantic you can do it a lot cheaper by cruise ship, and faster by air.
I like it but then I don't the glass im the galley won't last the wood tone not me looks like tru by hilton interior the new fresh and cramped revealing head front stateroom again it's not my cup of tea I like the 47 55 62 or kady 55 58 or nord 52 but yes lovely boat just not for me and the berth in the pilot house etc looks goid but chincy too but for 51 feet and 3k range ok
I love that brand but they always waste space . All that boat and it only has 2 state rooms.
Way over priced! I have been following hull number one and while the owner does a wonderful job with the sailing and filming, I was disappointed with the problems with the build and quality of some of the equipment and work done at their factory in Turkey. I have loved Nordhavn since I went aboard a 46 years ago and have dreamed about owning one, but the “low cost production” boat I just don’t know.
Sorry to say this, but...
I am Jack hayens, welcome to Jack ass. 😂 i hear it like 2 years or so....
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Very disappointing,
It reminds me of a camper built in the 70’s
The veneer is cheap looking and again, looks like leftovers from a basement remodel job with paneling bought from a triangle lumber yard.
My dreamboat is a Nordhavn but this just does not make it for me.
slow down your going too fast, try to make the moment last, but, thank you.
How is this an exclusive first tour of a N51? There have been tour videos of the N51 on youtube for years.
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Looks bargain basement cheap to me!
You cannot be serious. "Attract at younger public" at the same time the price "FROM TWO point TWO MILLION DOLLARS" show up on the screen. Which young public can pay a tenth of that amount, which also need like a budget of 100 K a year in service costs? What a joke.
I mean it literally has attracted a younger buyer, though that buyer probably still isn’t that young…
Some Young Kick streamers come to mind. Aiden Ross earns $100mil a year. Some others earn $5-10 mil It's not your Fathers economy anymore. I didn't even mention the Crypto (scammers) millionaire's 😂🤣😝💰😎
Learn to code.
I don't think you realize just how many very young multi millionaires there are in this day and age
I am 62 years young!
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Jack. Slow down. Talking too fast
Very disappointing outside spaces, not inviting at all to spend long periods of time outside, eating, lounging etc. Just looks like a very expensive fishing trawler tbh.😢
Sorry, woodwork looks like cheap Formica. Layout not as nice as older models.
2+ million and no customization, not even equipment. No thanks.
The secret in my opinion: it is the Mercedes-Benz G-Class of the yachts.
Not sure how Nordhavn would feel about that one 😅
More like a G-Class with 100bhp 3-cylinder.
@@mwinner101 I remember the G 230 with 4 cylinders and an incredible 150 hp.😂
@@chrilliB123 This is about the equivalent to that old timer. This is not the 2024 G63, that’s for sure. Paddle boarders will be passing this boat.
And based on the experience of Awanui NZ about as reliable as a baby’s arse
For hull #1 of a brand new boat Awanui has been relatively trouble free. The systems that have gone wrong aren't really to do with Nordhavn.
Love them but they have been in neutral forever. Same old blah with nothing new and the market is saturated with similar modernized versions.
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Cruising speed is 8 knots that’s going nowhere slowly.i can row my dingy faster than that rubbish. Bye.
Still a floating plastic
China crap mucho?🎉
Oh the irony of your ignorance