How The Office Fixed Andy Bernard In A Single Episode
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- All of the best The Office episodes are Michael Scott centric but some feature the great Andy Bernard. The best of Andy Bernard is seen in moments like CPR but he was almost the on the wrong end of the shows changes. The office was forced to completely change Andy Bernard in important ways. This is a look at why the office changed one of its most interesting characters.
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It’s worth pointing out the writers mess with Andy again in the later seasons, to less success and create an entirely different problem.
Stanley, Creed, Micheal, Jim....
Invader zim!
Dwight, Pam, Phyllis, Angela, Kevin, Oscar, Darryl, Ryan, Kelly, Erin.... They're all the best in their own special ways
Bob the Builder
Nerdstalgic animaniacs! Or Kim possible.
But don't forget how they destroyed his character in the last season.
i hated that
Yup!
What did they do with him in the last season? I can't remember if I actually watched towards the end of just blocked it from my mind 😅
@@StreetNoise They made Erin date Plop and sent Andy to audition for American idol. I think this was bc Ed helms had to go shoot another Hangover?
@@StreetNoise The last two seasons shift Andy from an likable idiot to a frustrating prick again. He disappears for two months sailing, breaking up with Erin, and in turn he becomes bitter, petty, and self-destructive. This culminates in the not-American-Idol audition where he has a breakdown on camera and becomes an unfortunate meme.
andy telling jim "speaking as a former baby myself" will always be funny to me
EDwin Flores episode?
@@fourteen20 Can't remember the exact episode, but it's around ep. 17-20 of season 6, when Pam is close to delivery.
I am the 1,000 like!!!
Thats never happens before to me lol
Callum Kelley just google the quote
Andy fearing he might be gay and Jim telling him he needs to sleep with a woman and a man in the same night to find out, is one of my favorite Andy moments. Also, the bloopers for that scene are hilarious.
Writers destroyed Andy's character but Ed's acting remained perfect. He's a great actor and comedian
This should be honestly more pointed out. Ed makes a huge acting on the show. Its very hard to make and keep a character like that so consistent
100% true. He did an excellent job with character, in a lesser actors hands he would have been a total joke or hated but Ed sheer talent and the ability to be funny but play the role with heart made Andy my favourite character when on paper he really shouldn’t have been.
I know he was my favorite character from the office idk why the writer’s destroyed him in the end tho 😂
Preach, it’s the writers that either make or break a character.
I don’t like how “normal” characters in The Office start becoming crazier as they start appearing more. Like Jen or David. At the beginning those characters help to construct the idea of normality that will be broken by Michael, Dwight or someone who’s a caricature. Without normality there’s nothing to break.
Despite what was done to him towards the end, mainly due to Ed Helms' schedule, the finale did a lot to redeem him. He even got one of the best lines: “I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them."
After all the damage done to his character, the writers owed him that much
best line!
they created the worst character, then fixed him and he became one of the most likeable characters and in the end the last season writers destroyed him completely
devaneios by nate I wonder if they did that so when Dwight was promoted to branch manager, you could actually feel good about it. I mean the first time Dwight is temporary branch manager, you can feel the panic, like how is anyone going to keep working there.
Sarah Hunter probably, but anyway this is poor writing, and once i heard that the way they treated andy was a vengeance against ed helms, cause he was always leaving the show (temporary) to shot some movie, but this is just speculation
That was really really unrealistic the transformation of him in the last seasons
That’s who he always was look at this why he has anger issues and is mean too people. He came back for anger management and it seemed to help for a why’ll. But with recent pressure of his parents resenting him the pressure of the management job and not feeling loved by Angela or Erin brought the old Andy right back. We may not like it but it’s good writing and it’s not a flaw with the writing it’s who Andy is. When he came back he was still kinda of an idiot just putting on an act too fit in as time went on he genuinely liked everyone and everyone liked him enough for Jim to say he likes him as manger. And I believe Andy wanted to change but you can’t break old habits.
I wish Pete didn't show up cause then him and eren would be together
But my name is Pete sooooooooo...........??
Season 9 was Andy's worst season but it did provide one of his best quotes.
"I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days before you've actually left them. Someone should write a song about that."
I think that's 1 of the best lines from the series.
**instant depression**
Gus Gang i said this in another comment and some people got mad 😂
Reminds me of a scene from the movie “The Boat that Rocked”. If I recall, the guys are hanging out in the boat around drinks, and the main character goes outside to find Philip Seymour Hoffman sitting alone staring at the stars. The latter talks about how he had a terrifying thought; “What if, right now, this is the best time of my life? What comes next?” or something like that.
Dude that was my highschool grad quote😂
I loved when Phyllis said how Andy always listened to her stories and treated them like they were interesting, no matter what.
"Im always thinking one step ahead, like a carpenter...who makes stairs"
Idc I loved Andy from start to before last season.
Well said
He’s my favorite from the show
They saved his character only to ruin him in the last season. Till this day I am still pissed about Andy and Erin breaking up.
The punisher Why didn’t they end up back together at Dwight and Angela’s wedding?? I just don’t get it 😑😑
@@OGitGirlJess I am guessing the writers wanted the whole new jim to get with the new secretrary. I will also point out that Micheal does say neither when mentioning Gabe and Andy when she asks him which one to choose
She just needed to be on her own for a while, like Precious from the movie Precious. Based on the novel Push, by Sapphire.
Ria LeDuc But The new Jim and her weren’t together at the wedding either 🤔🤔 And Yea, you’re right Micheal said neither, I never thought of that, good point. I guess also Andy had fallen so low at that point that Erin wouldn’t have wanted any parts of that 😩
shaun brown Thank you for the details ✔️😊
the best andy is after he breaking up with angela
Nah, the episode after he figured out Erin and Pete were dating.
GoChuTae nah dogchainz is right he was cool after that but when he broke up with Erin I started hating him again
And before he got fired
You are right
Before and after Angela was my favorite
I was never a big Andy fan but my favorite episode with Andy was when he went to pay off the bet by getting a tattoo on his butt and everyone decided on a Nard dog. That episode was very touching and made Andy a part of the family.
Ed Helms breathed life in Nard-dog’s character with his skills as an actor, a singer, an acapella artist and his talent of playing various musical instruments. I wish they wouldn’t have spoiled his character so badly by the end of the series. Andy Bernard didn’t deserve such a horrible end of his character arc after all those ups and downs.
One of my favorite lines in the office is when Michael is saying goodbye to everyone. He gives Andy his clients and says "But you're the best salesman on the inside. You sold us all on Andy, a product that nobody wanted."
That line always warms my heart
See you tomorrow boss
XD I didn't rememver that! 😂
Didn’t he lose them before Michael even left? Lol
@@novelchaser3556 he lost one but saved another before Deangelo screwed up everything
He didn't sell me on Andy. I didn't want him and don't want him. The only thing I wanted out of Andy was for him to be kicked off the show.
and immediately after this, they ruined Andy and made him into a selfish, whiny child.
Lol yup, I actually put that in the pinned comment as well.
Not immediately, but definitely true in the last two seasons.
Yeah they kinda screwed his character in the 9th season. It wasn’t immediately. I hardly count the 9th season it’s pretty bad
Yep. I always felt that his character would’ve been best within season 3-4.
I still found him pretty funny and likeable in the second half of season 9
I liked him the most when he invited everyone to watch his play. He strikes me as someone who is somewhat talented (can do everything on a base level) but doesn't manage to achieve anything. It's nice the show gave him the ability to sing and play musical instruments, and act on stage plays. I would love to see him do more stuff with kevin/darrel/oscar/toby/pam. He could've gone the similar route as pam going to art school where it doesn't happen off screen
He's a Daffy Duck character. Daffy would always get into a skills competition with Bugs Bunny and he could do everything well, but nobody liked him. Daffy would get in front of an audience and just kill it with dancing, but when it was over, crickets. Bugs Bunny would dance at a much lower level in front of the same audience and they roared.
One of my favourite things in Office was Andy and Erin getting back together. I genuinely cried out of joy when it happened, and I think making them break up once again was the worst desicion the writers made in the entire series.
It was hard to watch because clearly the two characters were into each other, but it seemed that the writers didn't want to rehash Jim/Pam or Michael/Holly. And I understand not wanting to repeat yourself creatively, but it seemed to me (and probably most) that Andy had gone through so much that he should have got the ending he wanted. Whether it was finding love or achieving show biz success, he seemed to have earned it by series end.
On the other hand, it's a remarkable character who keeps getting knocked down as Andy repeatedly does and yet he keeps on staying positive.
@@dash_r_media the show got way too into creating relationships during the later seasons in fact. They destroy that relationship after making a big plot point for Andy to create it. After they breakup, they immediately throw her in another relationship with Plop, a character that was thrown into the show for whatever reason. A character that no one cares about.
@@dash_r_media Exactly. Us as viewers were rooting for Andy to get that happy ending.
Pretend you didn't see seasons 5-7, and then watch seasons 8-9 with fresh eyes, particularly Erin and Andy's interactions. I hope you'd then think, Erin is too good for Andy.
The Andy that was betrothed to Angela would have been a good partner to Erin. Later Andy, not so much.
Yeah it was rough. How could we possibly root for Erin to get with some new guy that not a single office fan has any emotional investment in whatsoever? I'll never get why they did that.
His best line: The fire is shooting at us!!!
Gets me every time
Classic!
XD, the way he yells it too ^^
Idk it’s tough to beat him cutting Phyllis’ head off with a chainsaw
j0131 the noise he makes afterwards is what gets me every time 😂
Hol’ up
I didn't think Andy was a bad guy when Jim was in Connecticut
I just found him very bro-ey
like a chad
me too honestly
but he didn't fit the series honestly. cause he's been taking all jokes too seriously
Its very sam and diane
@@hookedj7184 and that was funny
Ed Helms' character development was heavily influenced by his involvement in the Hangover movie. The first one was a hit that made the actor popular world wide so the producer had to milk the opportunity, thus giving the character more screen time (that would explain why he replaces Michael as manager). But that was also his downfall in the later seasons mainly to his absence because he had to shoot the sequels. I have a feeling that the writers got tired of re-writing the scripts around his schedule so they intentionally destroyed his character in the last season.
Oh thaaat's where I know him from
"I wish there was a way to know you were in the good old days before you actually left them." Andy Bernard. My favorite quote that still hits hard.
Well, there is a way
"I wish there was a way to know about good old days before you actually left them"
-Andy Bernard
That is probably one of the best lines I have ever heard. I wish that was true
I think about this line a lot. It really resonates. Probably the best line from the show, for me.
-Everyone during lockdown also
""I wish there was a way to know about good old days before you actually left them"
-Andy Bernard
- Script writer
“”I’m so grateful to have people this close to me that it makes it this much more painful to say goodbye.”-Winnie the Pooh “-Michael Scott
I actually liked andy until the last season when they ruined his character
Yea I always felt bad for him, until he become a dick
DOFT he reminded me of myself when he first joined the cast. And it made me realize that I was so quick to become mad just like Andy and that maybe I should should try to become more clam and understanding like Andy did to better himself. But then they messed his character up.
They didn't ruin it. It was an appropriate character change for what Andy was going through at that time. Makes more sense for real world situations. He ended up pulling himself back together for the last episode.
@@xoxmerelyn1316 good thing for you. Trying to change your species for others. Hard being a clam tho. Might find yourself in someone's belly
@@noneofya6503 what? Really? It's believable that the guy who almost gave up his chance of being a manager to get Erin, who gave her the 12 days of Christmas, who just wanted to be accepted by everyone, left on a boat without warning and pretty much Broke of f contact with Erin? No way. He had family issues, and he wanted to sail the boat but why didn't he ask Erin to come, or at least keep in contact with her. They also seemed to make out he was too old and serious for her, when they had been a perfect match before
One of the best quotes in The Office and said by Andy Bernard: "I wish there was a way to know you were in the good old days before you actually left them." This also fits the way they treated Andy's character in season 9.
My biggest problem with Andy was that they spent 3 seasons building up him and Erin and they were together for like, 10 episodes before Andy did something stupid and they broke up. My problem wasn't that they didn't stay together, it's that it was so short and for a stupid reason. I say they should've cut out his other girlfriend, have them get together after Erin breaks up with Gabe, then have their relationship slowly decline naturally and in the end, they mutually break up. Heartbroken, Andy steps down as regional manager and goes to find fulfillment elsewhere and winds up getting his job at Cornell. That would've been a much better arc.
I say “sorry I annoyed you with my friendship” anytime my friends can’t hang out
Cringe
^^
I bet you find yourself saying that a lot, Andy.
Shannon Gerry Drew... my name is Drew now
Andy Marshall, no, I'm not gonna call you that. 😁
I like deep dive Office videos. I hate what they did to Andy in S-9. Transferring all heroic qualities to Plop.
I hate plop
Aline Macedo finally someone who hates plop Ive seen no one but myself
Jack Hyland I hate Plop too
Jack Hyland I also hate plop
I mean plop and Erin were turned into the new Pam and Jim. And I kinda liked that idea. That even when the staff changes...the stories would stay the same. New faces, but the circle carries on. That said...yea nah they totally ruined Andy which sucked.
Andy as manager, sucking up to Robert California, being as naive yet a strong leader-like presence in Season 8 was gold for me. That was my favorite Andy.
Disagree, especially as the manager. The next manager should have been the opposite of Michael. Great actor he is, but the writers didn't have a clue after Steve left which was their fault.
I really liked manager andy too! I didn't mind he wasnt that different from Michael because he was different enough. He's calmer, more productive and a bit less goofy, but still a bit ridiculous. It was so interesting seeing him struggld then find his footing. His moments of being an actual great manager were so relevant character-wise.
@@Journey24215I don't know, i don't think an opposite of Michael would've been very funny. Andy was like an insecure michael-ish goof, seeing him find his footing was really fun
@@eloweez8798 i actually thought he was quite similar to michael in a good way - he was like what michael was becoming in s7, where he'd actually grown close to everyone and learned to respect boundaries and listen to people but still had some of the goofiness that keeps the place interesting. we didn't have to watch andy change and learn a bunch as manager because we'd already watched him come so far from where he started, and if carrell hadn't left i think that would be where the show was going anyway. if the new manager had been as incompetent/insensitive as s1 michael it would've felt like they were rebooting the show, whereas andy basically just being a friend boss trying to get robert california to like him was a sweet wrap-up
Regardless of what they did to change Andy, I always found him entertaining to watch. I wouldn't like him if he was a real person, but as a fictional character I couldn't dislike him.
Lmao I'd take a real life Andy over most of the characters
I hated season 9 Andy
Him and Erin’s relationship was so cute and then it was ruined
Andy acted so stupid after Nellie took his job
TRUUUUUUUE
[ Insert Name Here ] I’m sure you’ve rewatched the office as well but it took me time to notice that
Andy was never good enough for Erin.
He fell short.
I liked Andy but people forget he has anger issues,parent issues,self esteem issues, and the way he treats others was wrong when we met him and wrong when he came back from his leadership retreat and was being mean to nelly, dude couldn’t ask out Erin for so long, there’s way more
@@mbtisocialclub Erin was 1 of my favorite characters and Ellie Kemper later said neither of those guys were good enough for her character.
I wonder if that was purposefully done by the writers. We started off by hating Andy, and then the writers made his character story end with us hating him again. Just a theory!
The Office writers: "Watch us take an unlikeable character and make them likeable throughout the series"
Also The Office writers: " Now watch us make him extremely unlikeable in one season"
As a side note, the last episode redeemed him again
Yeah, I agree
Gah agree all the way. He was bad untill a little after his anger management, and then got put right back into the unlikeablness after he got back from his boat trip. He was focused on way too much at the end and his plot lines were annoying, and then he was humbled again right there in the finale.
He was never likeable.
I feel like they did this in purpose. Andy's actor must have pissed someone off.
@@lonster3000 yup
No matter how much they changed him in the last season ...i still love his character and always will
I loved Andy’s anger issues, the wall punching scene had me dying laughing the first time I saw it.
Oh did they ruin his character in the last season? The comment section isn’t telling me every two seconds
I dont know if you got the answer but it was because the actor wanted to leave during in the middle of the last season and the writers didnt like that.
The character sucked before that. He should have left with the hole in the wall.
Ed Helms took a break from the show to film a movie, so they said his character sailed a boat around the Caribbean, I believe. When he came back, he was a mix of an asshole, and a douche bag. He was mean, spiteful, vindictive, nothing like his character before he left, and even worse than he originally was. Instead of just kinda being a jerk, whose antics, and anger issues, really only caused problems for himself; someone you could tolerate, but probably only in small doses, to someone who was actively, and purposefully trying to hurt others, through words, and actions. It was honestly hard to watch at times because some of the stuff he did was SO mean spirited, and done solely to bring others down. I don't know if I'm explaining it right, but it really undid all of the work the show had previously done to reform his character. Then he left again before the final however many episodes, but returned for the finale, somewhat remorseful for his actions, an obviously a broken man, whose behavior, outbursts, and sudden immaturity, had literally turned him into a meme. It was sad to see his character, who many, myself included, had learned to not only like, but genuinely root for, a sympathetic man, who just wanted to be liked, accepted, and ultimately loved, into a somewhat vile human being, who clearly derived joy from watching others fail. Again, that's just my take on it, I'm sure there's far bigger fans than me who can answer it much better. Now if you had question about "It's Always Sunny", then I'm definitely your girl. Hope that helped. ☺
@@mariannecontrino6297 marry me
They ruined him
I've always liked Andy, my favorite scene with Andy was when Robert California made a winners and losers list of everyone in the office. Andy was upset about the list and sat down with Robert and went through the losers list, for each name, he said a reason as to why that person was not a loser. In my opinion it's a underrated scene and says a lot about andy's character
Is there a video of that clip somewhere?
And people say the season 8 sucks.
@@LucasMartins-dy6no yea it wasn't great. It wasn't as bad as people say but there was a clear drop in the writing once Steve Carrel left
so true!
Yes is why they wrobg to destroyed him in season 9 but i cliked the sumo time drowning
Btw his friendship with Dwight was such a cute thing to follow
My first time watching the office, when Jim pranked Andy the same way he pranked Dwight and expected the same results. I genuinely bursted out laughing when Andy flips out and they cut to Jim and he makes a scared face. Man I really thought the dynamic of having a dude who’s gullible with anger problems paired with a laid back dude who doesn’t care much about work and distracts himself through pranks would be awesome. Until they went to Scranton and Jim was paired back up with Dwight, then Andy felt out of place. So glad they brought him back but I will say, at the end when he ditches Erin, he was even more cringe than before but at that point it was fitting .
Andy was a great character...until the LAST FRICKIN SEASON WHERE HE WENT ON A SAILING TRIP
Shoot. Any season after season 7 is dumpster fire.
Andy Bernard was my least favorite character for the whole show. He took up other characters screen time and his horrible relationship with Erin. When he became regional manager, it made the show unwatchable, until season 9. I loved those episodes where we could have character development without Andy calling himself nard dog and random outburst of singing. Andy sucks.
@@Sullo-su7nm I completely agree. It's so relieving to finally find someone who views his character like I do! He was the only character in the show where it felt like the writers really forced you to want to like. He was too overbearing, too nosey, too loud, and too much of a "yes" man. There was maybe a small handful of episodes where I found his character entertaining (S3E13, The Return for one), but I spent most of my time wishing he'd leave the show for good.
@@FuturePresentPast-gl8he the last three eps of season 9 was good tho
@@Sullo-su7nm I completely agree
The garden party episode really "fixed" him for me. It showed how human he is and helped us sympathize with his drive for attention - because he isn't valued in his own family.
That episode actually saved that season
Finally a comment that isn’t about him being terrible in green last season
His rosebud
@@fareehamaryam1079 rosebud?
I disagree. I prefer obnoxious awkward douche Andy. His character becoming too human and likeable killed the funny factor of him for me.
I was so irritated when Jim refused to call Andy "Drew", it was more petty and childish than a lot of things old Andy had done himself
Jim was a very childish character in general.
I think it was apart of Jim's whole laid back almost irreverent character. He's directly reminding Andy of who he used to be. The casual disregard of Andy's change made it seem as he had always been there. As if he had always been like that. It was part of normalizing him, his major change written off by a character to make him seem like a regular part of the office. Jim didn't welcome him back like he would a coworker that just came back from a tough situation but more like someone who came back after a long weekend.
@@gunnar1746 exactly
Looking back, rewatching the office for about the twelfth time, I realize that I really don't care for Jim that much
@Rick S. That's a good point.
This is a super well organized and produced video. I thoroughly enjoyed the imagery, editing, and commentary. Good stuff
Everybody talking about how they ruined Eirin and Andy relationship in season 9 but to me it was worst how they ruined Darryl and Andy friendship. Their friendship was one of the things I liked the best about those two characters and season's 9 Darryl avoiding Andy in the airport felt like that friendship development was for nothing!
I appreciate this comment! I totally agree!
i think that was because Darryl actually really liked Andy a lot, so it would have been too painful. like when he tried to sneak out his last day so he wouldn't say goodbye (and got roped into the most amazing dance sequence), and how Michael lied about his last day so he wouldn't have to say goodbyes.
Daryl was avoiding everyone he doesn’t like goodbyes it wasn’t anything against Andy
@@ryans413 Daryl is a dooshbag for doing this.
I agree 100%. Daryl and Andy’s friendship being ruined makes me dislike Daryl.
My all time favorite Andy quote: “You, me, bar, beers, buzzed, wings, shots, drunk, waitresses hot, football Cornell/Hosfstra, slaughter, then quick nap at my place and then we hit the tizzown.”
I read this EXACTLY how he said it lol, well done 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Lol this sounds so exhausting.
Possibly the best Office quote
@@jerimayavondristen9955 that's what she said
But some people hate this, which blows my mind. I loved Andy in the beginning of season 3.
I've seen The Office 14 times over, it's my comfort show and it's on in the background almost constantly, always love watching videos like this, there's always something that's gone over my head and shows me something new despite knowing it pretty much line for line. Just goes to show how the writing is actually genius. Thanks for the video c:
Andy is my favorite character, hands down. It's such a bummer they trashed him completely by the end of the show
The way they shifted Andy’s character was unbelievable. Specifically in the last seasons. He was a nuisance. Then became relatable. Then was truly destroyed. Then in, again, one episode, the last episode made him the character that everyone remembered.
It was part of the act he got a nice ending he got a job at Cornell
and he also got one of the best finale quote in TV " "I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days, before you've actually left them"
@@thejonker6980 And then "some should write a song about that"😥, he should've wrote that song but he got his spirits crushed. Even though I didn't like him so much in the 9th season, he didn't deserve all of that, especially since he didn't get paid for his viral video
And then they ruined him with the trip to the Caribbean and his subsequent UNEXPLAINED total douchebaggery.
The Dragon Reborn he was always like that. Look at season 3
That never happened.
He was never like that he was calm and shit when he was a manager and the only reason they fucked up his character in the last season is cause he went to go film The hangover series
I liked him at the end
It’s because he was filming the hangover the just didn’t give a good reason in the show
Always love your videos. Also really enjoying the beat playing in the background at the beginning
My two favorite moments from him is where he discovers Dwight and Angela's relationship and his play episode, the dude took criticism and failure like an absolute champ it's weirdly inspirational. It's really disappointing how they gave Andy the worst resolution in the finale, all of that character development for nothing
Andy was ruined when he did that weird drunk janitor thing.
Andrew Kunkel ah good the carpets been due for a good mopping....that line was only capable bc of that scene
@@17seconds2 haha, still sooooo weird.
Andrew Kunkel wait remind me what that was again
@@rsmit11 he came back soon to be hired, everyone thought he was homeless and he played into it so he could do a reveal that he was actually coming back, reveal didnt work out though as i think his boss didnt arrive or something
And the baby wa wa thing
The best Andy was when he was Michael and Oscars’s wingman.
This deserves a like but it pains me to much to like when it's at 69
@@shanewade848 HAHAHA 😂
beer me dos long island iced teas!
ya like apples? WHEN HOW D'YA LIKE THEM APPLES? riddiddiddigiioruuuu
yeah, that was a GREAT episode
@@andrewiangillies one of my favs
i could listen to this guy break down tv and/or movie characters like this all day ever day. this is great content
I really love when he's singing especially when form a band with kevin and daryll
Best line in the office “THE FIRE IS SHOOTING AT US”
From the best episode too
That's my favorite episode 😂😂😂
OH GOD OKAY ITS HAPPENING EVERYBODY STAY CALM
False!!!
How the turntables have
I dunno, after season 7 or so, some the plot points they chose for Andy really annoyed me. None of the things they brought up had payoff. After the affair it seemed like Andy had nothing to do.
just another worker in the office. you could remove phyllis from the office and i wouldn't realise.
cona yel bad take
FALSE. On the contrary ; he was an important character, whether or not some of the plot points they chose for Andy were superfluous and or annoying to some, it’s imperative that you understand that his growth on the show just strengthened the saying Michael frequently said, “we’re a family”. You gotta love Andy man
Sam Leopold at least elaborate why it’s a bad take hahah
Andy was great on season 8 in my opinion. Yes he's still annoying at times, but I think he's a great manager than Michael scott...until they screwed him on season 9
I've always liked Andy. Even in the earlier episodes he was hilarious
These videos are so helpful for learning how to write characters well!
One of the most frustraiting parts of the entire series was Andy and Erin's relationship. The writers did a good job at creating the tension between the two at the start and the kiss scene at the compost site was like justification for what Angela did to him.
But then they made Erin freak out when he didn't tell her he was engaged to Angela resulting in a bizarre hookup with Gabe and things just kept snowballing into a mess.
Gabe would threaten Andy after Erin broke up with him. Then Andy was promoted to manager so the writers started writing him in Michael Scott situations that didn't fit his character. Erin then confessed her feelings to Andy, but Andy randomly had this long time girlfriend we had no idea about.
So Erin leaves her life to escape to Florida. Andy drops his life to confess to Erin, resulting in making them both look like scumbags since Andy had to breakup with this other girl.
When they return the relationship is caught in stasis since Andy needs to get his job back and when he does... Season 9. That season made Andy a bigger asshole than he's ever been in order to push the viewer to sympathize for Erin and this new Jim character, Pete.
The relationship was pointless since there was no payoff.
I can see you've never dated before, as you think every relationship has a "payoff".
@@shelbyseelbach9568 Then I guess you're not very good at assumptions considering I've dated plenty. Sounds more like emotion analysis though like I struck a nerve.
It's a fictional TV show. The Office US went off track from the reality based Office UK after season 1. When I use the term "payoff" I was referring to the shows story arcs. Even Michael and Jan had a payoff with the dinner episode.
@@bowmen82 same feel, it's like they tried to recreate the "will they won't they" conflict that happened to Jim and Pam, except it felt SO forced and unjustified
EXACTLY-
@@shelbyseelbach9568 incorrect.. Even in real-life a relationship has a pay-off, good or bad.
It starts with 1 moment that defines your relationship, which ultimately breaks that relationship as a result or makes it stronger than before. Since life has up's and downs it's to be expected.
Now if we talk about relationships in A TV SHOW, then we know they have "pay-offs" and arcs. It either has the character change from self-centered, to being more sympathetic and grow some sorta empathy for those around them, it also can cause major conflicts in their lives.
A relationship is a plot device to help 2 characters having jarring changes. One can become more confident, the other more submissive.
Erin and Andy had NONE of it. It would go from one end to the next and wouldn't truly feel like a relationship should or would.
Jim and Pam had a pay-off. It had a set-up and it took many moons to culminate. Where both would constantly show each other that they are happiest in each other's company. That they try their hardest to push their limits and become better people.
Jim even starts his own business in a bid to make a Better life for his wife and kids.
Jim supported Pam to go to Art school so she wouldn't feel regrets, knowing that she gave it her all.
This, in turn, gave Pam more confidence, and turned her from a more reserved and meek character into a brazen character who managed to lie about a position and its salary and making it real.
Old Pam never would have accomplished that. This is what the relationship tool is used for. It has a pay-off in a TV Show and has defined and clear arcs.
He has the weirdest arc. I hated him, then loved him, then hated bim, then loved him.
I know right?! For me, I hated him, then loved him, then hated him, then hated him. WhY did the writers do that to him!!?!
He was also really ridiculously cringey at some points. Just thought I should add that lmao
@@victoria-tk5jf Basically cos Ed Helms got famous and kept going to film movies, so they had to kick Andy out periodically
@@goldenyuri3556 yeah, it's horrible
@@victoria-tk5jf what?!?! I always loved Andy even when he was first introduced idk why people hated him but I loved him
@@lucky2593 i actually didn't really "hate" him at first, but i definitely preferred his bubbly theatre kid personality over his season three personality :)
Brilliant videos, thanks a bunch!
Loved the video. Gonna watch more. Thank you for your hard work. I've heard that a big reason why ed helms eventually replaced steve was due to his rising star following the success of the hangover. personally that makes much more sense to me than it being due to the likeability of his Andy Bernard character.
Andy’s best line is “Micheal, am I gay?”
I mean the rumors are just coincidence...
when andy performed “i will remember you” it literally gives me chills even though his character was pretty bad in the 9th season.
Delaney H lmao same, it’s like all the bad goes away
i had that song stuck in my head just because of that..
Delaney H Season three Andy was intentionally bad, the other seasons... not really.
i bawl like a baby when he sings that.
Angela was manipulating both Andy and Dwight and there was a really satisfying scene where both Andy and Dwight realized this and made amends with eachother and Angela saw Dwight throw away the bobble head she gave him and overheard Andy cancel the wedding. Unfortunately they threw all that away in the final season when they had Dwight marry Angela.
Angela and Dwight was the best couple of the show, people hate Angela but its not like other character like Dwight or Michael was nice guys
@@purplered7004 Dwight never cheated on Angela or took advantage of her. Michael and Holly was also an awful toxic relationship though. Michael threw a fit and destroyed Holly’s treasured Woody doll and she was like “yeah nah, he’s right. I’m going to leave the man who genuinely makes me happy so I can be with this man child instead.” The show should have ended with all of Michael’s mistakes catching up to him at the end like was originally intended and then maybe have him win the lottery if something so there’s still a happy ending,
Love these breakdowns
I wish The Hangover filming didn't ruin his character later but I'm glad he wasn't written out right after the wall punch.
My thing with Andy was that he sucked until a few episodes after he got back from anger management. He was a really great character untill he got back from his boat trip. After that I have to say he was insufferable but 5 times worse because I was so used to him being a good guy (albeit slightly annoying). Yeah they fixed him, but it all went right back to shittiness at the end
Edit: lmfao I find this video again after a year, completely forgotten that I've already seen it, and I find a comment I made with 1.4k likes xD thanks guys
Hanna Grozier also on the boat trip, considering the comment about there’s internet all over and she got emailed a couple of times out of I think 3 months.
Edit: and he didn’t bring Erin with him.
Hanna Grozier he’s best before anger management, after anger management he sucks he’s so funny before anger management
Completely agree. I thought they really screwed up the season as a whole too. An absolute mess.
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actually he was a bit annoying when he became manager and the writers were stuck in Michael Scott mode and forgot that Andy wasn't Michael.
This channel is the thing a person like me (addicted to rewatching the office) needed
These videos and this channel are great!
Andy was genuinely sweet after anger management and especially once he broke up with Angela. I hated him at first but then he pretty much became my favorite character and I would defend him to the death. Season 9 was a travesty.
God. Word
Same to me!
I have to say the way Andy ended up on the series in seasons 8 and 9, completely ruins his character development for me in repeated viewings of the series. He turned out to be such a jerk to Nellie and Erin and became so completely self-absorbed, I completely lost any compassion I had for him.
He did have that great line in the last episode that showed his remorse for his past behavior, but it was too little too late for me.
That being said, Ed Helms was fantastic on that show.
Yes, that's what I thought when I first started watching DVDs - 5 years after it left the air. Ed Helms is a great actor and was really engaging even when he was playing such an obnoxiously unlikeable jerk.
Don't forget the song he sang when he quit too! Lol that was amazing. 🔥
Great video!
I first really noticed andy's difference when they went to Canada and he was trying to hook Oscar up
these videos are really well made
he started as a nuisance, became a good funny character, becomes the best character in the office, gets all of his development destroyed in the last season
His character change marked a change in how they writers had gotten lazy. No longer were jokes made about the boring nature of office work. No longer were they plot driven they just dumbed down characters, turned them into clowns. The jokes were now at the expense of their being clumsy,, dumb or both. Think of Angela licking her cats and then coughing up a fur ball or Kevin and chilli - all that was missing from these scenes was the laugh track and could you could have slipped them into the middle of Friends or any other stock sitcom from the 80's.
He was never the best
@@jamessmithers7593 I have to disagree with you on that, purely because office work was still clearly a joke for being so boring. They made Andy ok but there’s scenes like when Michael was talking and all they were focusing on was the square going right to the edge of the screen. Or when Michael said that hospitals are for dying and offices are a place to live life to the fullest. Every character other than Dwight, Andy and Michael hate their jobs. They may do them well, but they clearly don’t care. Removing Andy’s extremely chaotic side was a good thing because it wasn’t really funny and was clearly only there at the start as an attempt to replace Dwight
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“I’m gonna kill you. This isn’t a game anymore I am actually going to shoot you” is still my favorite line of Andy
Yep...that was Great.
It was improvised too. You can even see John Krasinski hold back laughter
Saboteur
This makes me laugh outloud every single time, lord its so fucking funny
Agreed
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Brilliant analysis
and then they ruined his character again
Yeah, that’s a whole different problem, but things certainly went off the rails toward the end.
Yeah, Nellie kind of contributed a little to that
They had to make Dwight more redeemable so it was a feel-good story when he became manager. So they made Andy trash
SuperNoah160 Yeah true
They miiight have been a little miffed that he had to leave and film the hangover mid season lol
Best Andy line
Chock that up to tweedle dee and tweedle dumb out there
Robert: who are they
Andy: They’re both Kevin
i wish there was a way to know your in the good old days..before you actually left them...
Dude you sound like a creepypasta voice actor for some reason and it brought back so many memories. Very distinctly, though, it sounds so similar to Abandoned By Disney, but I dont remember who read it. I love your storytelling though, and you have a great clear voice. I know this video is years old but i hope you keep at it! :)
I actually really like Season 3 Andy. I'm on my first go through the show (was never able to get myself through Season 1 and the early parts of 2 while they were still working out the cringe stages) and I think he's great, although I know he changes afterwards. Helms performs brilliantly and I do love how he shows that side that a lot of people would, reacting to Jim's daily pranks and what seems to sometimes cross into bullying (like putting Dwight's things in a vending machine, tricking him into destroying his phone or throwing a snowball at his face) in a way that Dwight doesn't, the latter in his own way falling into a routine with Jim when it happens. Plus I find him a brilliant foil to Dwight and similarly adore how he was used to help Michael realise how he ignores and undervalues Dwight to the point of absurdity.
“Big Tuna is a super ambitious guy, you know? Cut-your-throat-to-get-ahead type of guy. But, I mean, I'm not threatened by him. I went to Cornell. Ever heard of it? I graduated in four years, I never studied once, I was drunk the whole time, and I sang in the a capella group, 'Here Comes Treble'.” one of the first andy bernard lines haha
I liked Andy until he came back from his boat trip
Dan Lundberg the fatal boat trip...
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It’s cause he was doing the hangover and that’s why they did him dirty
same
This channel host is extremely clever. Great work.
I'll never understand why the writers destroyed his character. At least he was redeemed a little by the finale.
My favorite Andy moment was when he stood up to Robert California’s “List”
They worked so hard to establish him as the loveable underdog boss for a few episodes there at the beginning of season 8. It's part of why the abrupt "welp, he's a villain now" arc on his return from the boat trip in season 9 was so obnoxious. Basically Ed Helms was out for half the season so they decided his character didn't really matter anymore.
I agree!
@@benjaminolson7206 Curse the Hangover sequels for that.
“Andy was an under-medicated chihuahua just waiting to explode in a flurry of a cappella barks.”
I’m absolutely saving this insult for someone in my personal life. This is too beautiful, too perfect.
Also, your content is fantastic. You not only have a talent for analyzing film and media, you really seem to enjoy it too! I’m been binge-watching all morning and I’m really loving it!
Totally thought the same!
Started crying near the end , you described the office dynamic in a very endearing way
Great video bro ❤
He never sold one sheet of paper.
And yet he convinced David Wallace to buy back Dunder Mifflin.
He did. They referenced that he barely outsells Phylis. He had low sales numbers, but he still sold some paper. It was Ryan who never sold any paper.
We saw him make that sale after D'Angelo messed it up.
@@drvonyt8897 David Wallace was, by far, the biggest idiot on the show. Almost everyone in that office, Jim included, should have been fired multiple times. Creed, Kelly, Ryan and Meredith didn't even do anything there.
132 likes vs 5 comments. Sweet.
Final season doesn't even feels like The Office, they change everyone's personality so radically is unbearable
That was the whole idea. Essentially, in the last season, they formed a transition for everyone to move on and grow, because that's exactly what they did. Michael moved away to start a new life, Jim and Pam went from kids in love to parents, Dwight went from salesman to Regional manager, Oscar entered Politics, Kevin opened a bar, Stanely retired and generally new people started to shift themselves into the once familiar space. This was most apparent when Pam sold their house and decided to move the family. Everybody was maturing. In that sense, the effect the show had on the viewers wouldn't have been the same if the personalities were kept intact through the end. I mentioned the scene where Pam sells the house because that scene affected me on a personal level. The scene was set at dusk. The fading evening sun was hitting Jim and Pam's faces as they made the decision to move on with there lives. I remember crying at that scene, because I realized not just that their (and the show's) story was ending, but life in general couldn't stay the same. That made me sad. But it also made me feel I had matured and grew up with the people on screen, even though I binge-watched the show in the span of a week.
So, yeah. I think changing everyone's personality was for the better. And they did it like no show other. That's why, to me, the ending of The Office, was way more sad. I bawled my eyes out at the end. But in similar context, I wasn't so sad at the end of FRIENDS. Part of the reason is because FRIENDS ran for so long, but it just ended. Everybody moved on, but retained their personalities, throughout. I hope you understood what the point I've tried to convey here.
Best character development was Dwight by far, I still loved him in the last season, and I cried during his wedding
@@sameerchandio9481 I agree with you. I may not like all of the characters' evolution, but some of them are really awesome imo. Oscar's is probably my favourite,
It's because the new writers forgot that The Office was supposed to be a *parody,* not a perfectly realistic representation of life. They tried making the show "true to life" and then it lost its charm because that was never what the show really was.
@@sameerchandio9481 Yet didn't do anything of the sort for Andy.
I loved how Andy was the only one to give Micheal a farewell gift when he resigns from Dunder Mufflin.
Loved the video! But also loved the song that starts at 6:55 when the "Angela and Andy" topic starts. What's the song called?
I didn't find him dislikable at all before he made Dwight leave, he was annoying but in a funny way
Agree. The guy who made this video is overthinking everything.
100%
The reason Dwight was annoying but funny and Andy wasn't was because Dwight still really tried to be good, Andy was self-centered to the point of only caring about himself and I couldn't sympathize with him
@@enzldavaractl8345 Thats why he was funny, because he was so unselfaware and stupid.
I definitely saw him as a villain in that arc. Funny, yeah, but in the way someone like Deangelo Martin was funny, or CEO Ryan - he was an antagonist, and a heavy presence in those episodes. I didn’t like him, and probably couldn’t have put up with that Andy for the whole series. So I get what the video maker is saying.
If I’m being honest when I saw Andy punch the wall I replayed it a ton and couldn’t stop laughing
WHERES MY FREEEEEKING PHONE!
Jims face is priceless cause he knew it went too far
The difference is Dwight always thought he was smarter than Jim and would try to foil the gog which allowed us to witness how far Jim went to make his pranks work. Having both Dwight's cell phone and office phone forwarded to him. Altering pictures to have Asian Jim in his place, doing a turn on his classic stapler in jello by putting it in a giant meatball. While Dwight tried to match wits Andy went nuclear and demanded it end.
this video was AWESOME!!!
Well put.
CAN YOU PLEAAAAAASE DO A CHARACTER ANALYSIS OF RYAN? I know he's more "minor" character but his character development is rich in content
Wasn't he always a weird asshole loser, or am I missing something lol?
@@Kicksno1fan you're not missing anything
He shows development final season and says he has finally beat commitment when he runs away with Kelly. Wait actually he leaves his baby...nvm
@@One.Zero.One101 --Whats great about that, is the Major writer for "Ryan", was BJ Novak, ("Ryan", himself!😊) and he is the one who made "Ryan" such a little jerk!😁
@@amunra1324 --LOL!!😁 Yep, opps..nevermind!😀
I too thought that the Andy character was done for after he punched a hole in the wall. But the anger management turn about was genius
I actually liked andy from the beginning to the end... INCLUDING the last season "I wish there was a way to know your in the gool ol' days before you've actually left them"
I think about that line all the time man