@SAMabove This is one of those strategems that you abandon 'cause it was available early, and then you use again later and are like, "Oh hey, this is actually kind of good." I often use the Eagle Strafe and Orbital Precision Strike even though I have everything unlocked. It's very easy to avoid teamkills with it, and you have to go out of your way to kill yourself. I found a short video that does a good job of quick highlights. th-cam.com/video/rwheBQooAwM/w-d-xo.html It was also a ton of fun on X-45 with the new forest swamp biome. Mostly narrow walkways let me get 8-12 kills regularly per call in. And you have so many uses that I'd just throw it willy nilly. Small base up ahead? Just prep it with a strafing run. Only got 4 kills? That's fine, those are kills I didn't need to stop to get on my own. It's even stronger vs bugs since you can run away and kite them a little, and they'll mostly line up behind you.
dw brotha. certain people in this community shit on anyone who likes something they dont like, or doesnt like something they do like. Basically: express an opinion = get shit on. if you like it.. its cope if you dont like it.. its skill issue source: been shit on a lot :D
@@sammybear-o4c No Sam, don't let this cult of copium addicts convince you this strat is good lol. It's not a coincidence none of them can post a solo helldive utilizing this strat well. They're playing on weenie Jr difficulty, getting 5 infantry kills with it and thinking they're making an impact while just getting carried by teammates, I see it all the gd time. Play how you want, but stop trying to convince people you're good and know what you're talking about, please.
@@RepublicofODLUM oh don’t worry I know I’m not good, and I try to tell people to play how they want, I just wish this stratagem was just slightly tweaked to improve it
Wrong. It can damage heavily armored enemies, it comes in quick, you have many uses, It moves a way from you so you are unlikely to team kill. I will admit it takes some practice to place it to get the most out of it.
@nicolasguiem7369 sure, but I've never seen a cluster finish off a factory strider, plus their area makes it more dangerous to allies than foes in my personal experience. The number of times I've used eagle strife at my feet to get away from berserkers or other enemies is countless. Clusters could never.
i rather pick this than the Cluster bombs cuz I don't want to deal with friendly fire and danger close. The strafing run is great as it is now. And it comes in vertically instead of their usual horizontal run, Amazing for bugs with how lined up they are.
Cluster bombs can be really annoying, especially when it’s a random lobby and no one communicates and they just drop it, so I see it’s significance there
when you got like an army of bugs you're basically kiting, this thing is a beast to take care of them, especially since you just chunk them really fast. Also it has good utility to. Its obviously by far not the BEST stratagem, but its definitely not the worst (Looking at you Ballistic Shield)
Hardly. Danger close safety, many uses before rearm. Breaks armor enemies. Also has a very short call in input. It’s a great stratagem for its roll. If it’s gonna get a buff all it needs is a wider flight path. Covering more ground.
Strafing run melts medium enemies and can damage larger ones too (perfect vs bile spewers). It’s not meant to kill large targets fast, but it will do good job at striking the finishing blow. Fast call in, 3 slot code Easy to avoid friendly dmg You don’t need much safe space to use it Line up big group of bugs and get easy multy kills It can destroy shrieker nests You get 5x of them I love using it after buff (mainly against bugs)
It's really good when fighting light and medium enemies in enfilade. The cluster strike works the other way around, its best suited for enemies in defilade. It's surely stronger, but so is its tk potential. It's for crowd controllers that actively draw the enemies attention away from the rest of the team, combine it with cluster strikes and orbital airbursts and leave the heavier enemies to your other squadmates that are (hopefully) properly equipped for that task and exist in the first place. You can even try combining it with the RL-77 airburst rocket launcher to give you the extra kick over medium to long ranges (and increase the heart rate of your squadmates), despite its usage being god tier in squad wipe potential and kinda limited in its versatility.
Strafing run is super fun. It's slightly weaker than the gattling barrage(which everyone LOVES), but you can throw this like 5 times, 8 seconds apart. Then a short 2min cooldown, which is only twice the cooldown of the gattling barrage. Totally spammable, and you never feel guilty for throwing it out, or be afraid that you won't have one or two or four available to use.
My problem with the strafing run is the coverage area. Every time I use it, it only seems to hit a handful of targets, no matter how dense the pack is. Five charges is nice and all, but i can do a much more meaningful amount of damage with clusters or the regular airstrike. Gatling barrage has the advantage of significant duration, giving it area denial ability, plus it isn't an eagle, so it's good backup for when my eagles are on cooldown. The one place the strafing run shines is for precise, danger close work, but I find in most situations it doesn't output enough damage to be truly helpful.
@@Curdledgorilla Hm, interesting. I mean, I havent tested it extensively, but in my playtime, I get about as many kills as a gattling barrage, and I throw them out all of the time. Although, to be fair, I ALSO use the gattling barrage, and often use them both at the same time. Its very fun, as I find throwing strategems constantly the funnest part of the game.
They buffed the gatling barrage a while ago, was fairly useless before. Well, they've been told over and over and over again to stop nerfing things into the ground for "balance" since this is a pve game. Someone finally got through and they buffed a bunch of stuff to at least do armor damage. But the damage has been done, not as many people care about the game anymore. I don't expect the Illuminate faction to help either if they are even tankier or more annoying to deal with with shields and abilities.
@@EricLing64 I had no problems with them nerfing, tbh, but I am definitely in the minority. I like using underpowered/overlooked strategies in games, and try to make them competitive, hence my usage of strafing run. As someone who generally is not that good at videos games in general, if I can make playing underpowered strategies work in games, I think people should stop complaining about bringing their overpowered/mainstream strategies down to earth. Again, obviously, I am in the minority of playerbase. I was using strafing BEFORE the buff, lol.
It was good before the buff, and now it's amazing It clears clumps mediums and does objectives well It's also good to cover a team with, unlike other eagles that would condemn teammates
nah this shit slaps, i use on helldive with randos all the time, really nice to throw at areas where your team is cause the FF chance is super low. it's utility for destruction is very good and its spammable. its not as good as eagle airstrike but its a banger
@@spookiboys yeah, I was too harsh on it after some days reflecting and I’ve started using it a little, I sound like a game journalist with this video 😭 but it’s better than I originally thought, but I think my idea of tweaking it to make it hit a wider area still stands.
1) there is a new ship module that gives -15% cooldown if you retain ONE eagle charge. 2) you get 5 of these per trip, with heavy armor pen and excellent damage, as a supporter to eagle airstrike or 500kg 3) you collect your W by rearming at 1 strafing run
@@crackersphdinwumbology2831 it's 10% and it doesn't make up for how bad it is. You'll get more value from so many other strats like airstrike, precision strike, cluster bombs, 380 barrage, rocket turrets, ac turret...
could it use more of a buff? Probably a bit, but it's not deserving of being called useless. I think it's a good idea to compare it to cluster bomb. First off, youve got a lot of footage of you trying to kill a bile titan and chargers with it, both heavy targets. If you were trying the same thing with cluster bombs, the whole of the helldiver community would be laughing at you. It trades off widespread kill potential for focused damage that has low teamkill potential. Plus it can kill spore spewers and shrieker nests. It's greatest use is against bile spewers, and if there is any indirect buff you could give the strafing run it would be gaining knowledge of the enemy composition before dropping. If you knew bile spewers were on the ground before dropping, youd be in a really great spot if you brought one of these. Like someone else mentioned, the key to gaining value out of this stratagem is to use it essentially off cooldown. Running a second eagle hurts your ability to do this (500kg might be a second pick for dealing with bile titans for example, when you have orbital scatter as a mission modifier and can't bring orbital precision strike). You won't get big kill streaks of 25+ with it, but getting a juicy and SAFE pickoff of 8-15 targets is still decent. Against bots this stratagem is less good. But i comes out quickly and can still hurt devastators. Doesn't offer and utility against tactical objectives either. Only plus side is that you can often find bots lining up nicely so in theory you can hit a lot of them with this. I'd still bring something else to get more value. (edit: accidentally sent before i was done)
As a bot player who often goes solo, I actually really like the Eagle Strafing Run as a way to add volume of fire to my builds when I already have Fabricator-killing utility like the Spear or Commando. One major advantage of the Strafing Run is that it gets called in almost instantly, so it's a great panic button if you happen run into a lighter patrol. If you haven't been fully detected yet, enemies will also aggro onto the Eagle instead of you, making it a wonderful distraction for stealthy gameplay.
@@MrSierra116 Not big on running away. I run DILIGENCE CS', GRENADE PISTOLE OR DEAGLE, STUN GRENADES. STRAFING RUN, PRECISION STRIKE, either WALKING BARRAGE or GATLING BARRAGE, 4th stratagem either laser or HMG.. sniper or railgun of I wanna deal with hulks. What do u run...other than away? :p
@@dukkiegamer1733 I mean I’m not the one that tosses it on teammates, I wait at least for the area to clear of teammates, but I get annoyed when people toss it because they don’t care I’m right there.
@@MrSierra116 understandable, I try not to get annoyed at teammates about it, but they could wait just a few more seconds for me to get away before they call it in lol
its the strongest strategem in the game against groups of bile spewers, it oneshots some bug secondarie objectives, its ok against groups of enemies, and it has many uses.
Inconsistency is the name of the game in helldivers lol. Seriously though, I've legit had people try to convince me on Twitter that im just bad and strafing run is actually really good lol. They did just give it a buff to the damage and an extra use per rearm but it wasn't enough. It needs a much wider line of fire for starters (as you mentioned)
@@RepublicofODLUM literally, like for me if I’m not praying to still be alive after the strike hits or if I’m not deaf afterwards, there’s something wrong haha
The Orbital Gatling Barrage buff in the same patch made that strategem awesome. I use it every game now. The strafe, however just isn't there. I love playing with high up time stuff....Orbital gatling, OG machine gun sentry, etc but I never use strafe because 5 uses of crap is still crap
@@Degarth the Gatling barrage definitely had that noticeable difference, but yeah I’m still yet to see anything different with the Strafe, glad I’m not the only one
@@Degarth I agree the orbital gattling is really good now, orbital precision too. They are two of my favorite strats now, gattling more for bugs but the precision is good for both factions and in almost every mission with how fast it comes back, especially with the extra radius the new upgrade gave it.
@RepublicofODLUM I use Orbital gatling mostly on bots. I only play bugs when it is an MO. I'd say it's as good on bots you just don't get as big kill count numbers, but that's just bots being less numerous. It's just such a great area denial tool and with full upgrades the cool down time is amazing. Strafe should be like a tighter area, more targeted version of OGC but instead it is like someone fired 4 stalwarts from a helicopter side door 😁
They could make it like helldivers 1 with a very high call count before reload, and add a little more spread. With the fast action time and easy to control deployment, it would help against packs of hunters and other smaller terminids, which are quite the common cause of death when you're busy dealing with the big non thinking bugs. Never will be a solo stratagem, but in teams it would be able to save some nasty situations and those precious reinforcements on helldiver. *Remembers swarms traumas while dealing with titans on geological surveys *
Yeah, after a couple of days, I just completely missed on this video, this was not a good one. I've used it more often the past couple of days, and it has really grown on me. I still stand on what I said about tweaking the spread of it just a little bit bigger.
I come back and try the strafing run every so often to switch things up. when i started in april it was only good vs light targets, no heavy armor pen. but it was an okay area of effect. it also had fewer uses per rearm so the cluster bomb outclassed it completely with the last major patch they buffed the armor pen and the damage so it felt pretty decent, and the number of uses so it could be spammed more. I found it really effective as a "support" for another stratagem - for example, the spear usually can't one-shot a hulk or titan, but would damage it enough for the strafing run to finish it off. i had tons of fun with this combo. the armor pen also made it able to destroy bug mushrooms, so you could wipe a spore spewer or 2/3s of a shrieker nest with a single strafe. However, with the patch i feel like they nerfed the width? it felt less forgiving if you missed to the side. also, at some point after the patch i felt like i couldn't make the spear-strafe combo work as well - hulks would previously ALWAYS die to 1 spear + 1 strafe but more recently have been surviving strafes that should've killed them its ideal place is definitely as a sort of "spammable multitool" that can take out certain structures, or put in that little bit of extra damage against heavy enemies, or clear some of a pursuing horde. It's also a very "safe" stratagem that is very unlikely to kill yourself or your team, which is nice. I do think it needs to be inspected by the devs for consistency, as well as buffing the width of the burst just a tiny bit and yes they really need to add that A-10 brrt
Better against bots. Recently buffed. Lots of uses. Comes in quick. I take it to every bot run, actually. So, hardly useless. That said, would love to see it buffed further cause it's so cool. Would also like to have a sound effect buff to make it sound more like an A-10 Vulcan.
>can take down Spore >can take down Shrieker hotels >can soften heavy and clear medium armor IF you aim right >input code is the shortest like Precision, can spam, call down timer is super fast In no way Straffing is useless Not flashy, yes, but definitely not useless
In the original helldivders classic the heavy strafe did an absolute assload of damage to anything not heavy armored. They should balance this game around us doing an assload of damage, but being made of wet tissue paper. Instead we are made of wet tissue paper and our guns are a moist fart.
@@Marxon1134 just in my experience, it’s not the best, there’s other things that are better. But people have said it’s good in certain situations, so I’ll probably revisit it and see how I feel, but like I said I think there’s other things that are way better
it’s not that I don’t like it, and I know I shouldn’t say it needs a GIANT buff, but I think it could be slightly tweaked just to make it even more sought after in higher levels
@@salaciousdaz8316 I was using it a little bit recently, for my next video I was gonna put out. it is a themed load out, and it was actually pretty fun using it. So I guess I wasn’t giving it the credit it deserved
it's an early game strat lvl 1 - 6 IMO just like the machinegun strat you can't expect to survive on helldive with this strat, it's why lvl progression is in the game
@@MrSierra116 i said early game not first, helldive solo is easy, the difficulty scales with the amount of players go play cata vermintide 2 solo for a hard experience. helldivers 2 is a joke when it comes to difficulty
@@aifven4683 after I did this video, people were telling me to go back and use it, and I did, I did kill a couple of bile titans, but they were pretty weak, but I guess if you line it up right and you get a good consistency, it could one shot
@@morgan3392 yeah I realize that now, I think it is better than I originally thought. I still stand on the tweak the strafe should have a wider firing line
@@sammybear-o4c ok . I really like that "run" before buff's was a JOKE now can destroy Shrieks nest put down charger's finish titian's... Only angle and some other condition makes here a difference 😀
@@krolprzemoc1983 I’ve killed chargers with it before, I’m still yet to see it destroy a shriekers nest, and never once have I seen it kill a bile titan, maybe after like 10 runs I can maybe see it killing it
It is useless dont make a follow up even after the recent ish buff its still ass cluster is far better better even so cluster also so sucks so if its worse than that then its pretty shit
My bad, I shouldn't call it useless, I'm just not good with it. I'll revisit the stratagem and try it again. Sorry about that.
@SAMabove
This is one of those strategems that you abandon 'cause it was available early, and then you use again later and are like, "Oh hey, this is actually kind of good."
I often use the Eagle Strafe and Orbital Precision Strike even though I have everything unlocked. It's very easy to avoid teamkills with it, and you have to go out of your way to kill yourself.
I found a short video that does a good job of quick highlights.
th-cam.com/video/rwheBQooAwM/w-d-xo.html
It was also a ton of fun on X-45 with the new forest swamp biome. Mostly narrow walkways let me get 8-12 kills regularly per call in. And you have so many uses that I'd just throw it willy nilly. Small base up ahead? Just prep it with a strafing run. Only got 4 kills? That's fine, those are kills I didn't need to stop to get on my own. It's even stronger vs bugs since you can run away and kite them a little, and they'll mostly line up behind you.
@@Hrothfuurd honestly probably, I never touched it really after the game dropped. But awesome, I’ll take a look at it!
dw brotha. certain people in this community shit on anyone who likes something they dont like, or doesnt like something they do like. Basically: express an opinion = get shit on.
if you like it.. its cope
if you dont like it.. its skill issue
source: been shit on a lot :D
@@sammybear-o4c No Sam, don't let this cult of copium addicts convince you this strat is good lol. It's not a coincidence none of them can post a solo helldive utilizing this strat well. They're playing on weenie Jr difficulty, getting 5 infantry kills with it and thinking they're making an impact while just getting carried by teammates, I see it all the gd time.
Play how you want, but stop trying to convince people you're good and know what you're talking about, please.
@@RepublicofODLUM oh don’t worry I know I’m not good, and I try to tell people to play how they want, I just wish this stratagem was just slightly tweaked to improve it
I’d be happy if it just sounded like an A-10.
Wrong. It can damage heavily armored enemies, it comes in quick, you have many uses, It moves a way from you so you are unlikely to team kill. I will admit it takes some practice to place it to get the most out of it.
@@krunchy3761 I’ll try using it more, it’s just whenever I’ve tried using it, it just doesn’t feel like enough I guess
I like it versus devastators, In a world where those assholes shrug everything off
The trick is to spam this bad boy.
But you can have the cluster instead…
@nicolasguiem7369 sure, but I've never seen a cluster finish off a factory strider, plus their area makes it more dangerous to allies than foes in my personal experience. The number of times I've used eagle strife at my feet to get away from berserkers or other enemies is countless. Clusters could never.
i rather pick this than the Cluster bombs cuz I don't want to deal with friendly fire and danger close. The strafing run is great as it is now.
And it comes in vertically instead of their usual horizontal run, Amazing for bugs with how lined up they are.
Cluster bombs can be really annoying, especially when it’s a random lobby and no one communicates and they just drop it, so I see it’s significance there
when you got like an army of bugs you're basically kiting, this thing is a beast to take care of them, especially since you just chunk them really fast. Also it has good utility to. Its obviously by far not the BEST stratagem, but its definitely not the worst (Looking at you Ballistic Shield)
Hardly.
Danger close safety, many uses before rearm. Breaks armor enemies.
Also has a very short call in input.
It’s a great stratagem for its roll.
If it’s gonna get a buff all it needs is a wider flight path. Covering more ground.
@@epgamer1145 and that was one of my suggestions to improve it slightly, it just needs to be wider
if I call it in I wanna see some Insurgency Sandstorm level damage
For real. That's what I'm saying.
Strafing run melts medium enemies and can damage larger ones too (perfect vs bile spewers). It’s not meant to kill large targets fast, but it will do good job at striking the finishing blow.
Fast call in, 3 slot code
Easy to avoid friendly dmg
You don’t need much safe space to use it
Line up big group of bugs and get easy multy kills
It can destroy shrieker nests
You get 5x of them
I love using it after buff (mainly against bugs)
@@ilovedemocracyy I’ll give it another try at some point
0:07 describes me and my uncle pretty well.
Im totally not punching air rn
@@zakkmarchant oh word?
It's really good when fighting light and medium enemies in enfilade.
The cluster strike works the other way around, its best suited for enemies in defilade. It's surely stronger, but so is its tk potential.
It's for crowd controllers that actively draw the enemies attention away from the rest of the team, combine it with cluster strikes and orbital airbursts and leave the heavier enemies to your other squadmates that are (hopefully) properly equipped for that task and exist in the first place.
You can even try combining it with the RL-77 airburst rocket launcher to give you the extra kick over medium to long ranges (and increase the heart rate of your squadmates), despite its usage being god tier in squad wipe potential and kinda limited in its versatility.
Strafing run is super fun. It's slightly weaker than the gattling barrage(which everyone LOVES), but you can throw this like 5 times, 8 seconds apart. Then a short 2min cooldown, which is only twice the cooldown of the gattling barrage.
Totally spammable, and you never feel guilty for throwing it out, or be afraid that you won't have one or two or four available to use.
My problem with the strafing run is the coverage area. Every time I use it, it only seems to hit a handful of targets, no matter how dense the pack is. Five charges is nice and all, but i can do a much more meaningful amount of damage with clusters or the regular airstrike. Gatling barrage has the advantage of significant duration, giving it area denial ability, plus it isn't an eagle, so it's good backup for when my eagles are on cooldown.
The one place the strafing run shines is for precise, danger close work, but I find in most situations it doesn't output enough damage to be truly helpful.
@@Curdledgorilla Hm, interesting. I mean, I havent tested it extensively, but in my playtime, I get about as many kills as a gattling barrage, and I throw them out all of the time. Although, to be fair, I ALSO use the gattling barrage, and often use them both at the same time.
Its very fun, as I find throwing strategems constantly the funnest part of the game.
They buffed the gatling barrage a while ago, was fairly useless before.
Well, they've been told over and over and over again to stop nerfing things into the ground for "balance" since this is a pve game. Someone finally got through and they buffed a bunch of stuff to at least do armor damage. But the damage has been done, not as many people care about the game anymore. I don't expect the Illuminate faction to help either if they are even tankier or more annoying to deal with with shields and abilities.
@@EricLing64 I had no problems with them nerfing, tbh, but I am definitely in the minority.
I like using underpowered/overlooked strategies in games, and try to make them competitive, hence my usage of strafing run.
As someone who generally is not that good at videos games in general, if I can make playing underpowered strategies work in games, I think people should stop complaining about bringing their overpowered/mainstream strategies down to earth.
Again, obviously, I am in the minority of playerbase. I was using strafing BEFORE the buff, lol.
It was good before the buff, and now it's amazing
It clears clumps mediums and does objectives well
It's also good to cover a team with, unlike other eagles that would condemn teammates
I'll give it another shot, I think I jumped the gun on this video a little too early.
nah this shit slaps, i use on helldive with randos all the time, really nice to throw at areas where your team is cause the FF chance is super low. it's utility for destruction is very good and its spammable. its not as good as eagle airstrike but its a banger
@@spookiboys yeah, I was too harsh on it after some days reflecting and I’ve started using it a little, I sound like a game journalist with this video 😭 but it’s better than I originally thought, but I think my idea of tweaking it to make it hit a wider area still stands.
1) there is a new ship module that gives -15% cooldown if you retain ONE eagle charge.
2) you get 5 of these per trip, with heavy armor pen and excellent damage, as a supporter to eagle airstrike or 500kg
3) you collect your W by rearming at 1 strafing run
@@crackersphdinwumbology2831 it's 10% and it doesn't make up for how bad it is. You'll get more value from so many other strats like airstrike, precision strike, cluster bombs, 380 barrage, rocket turrets, ac turret...
could it use more of a buff? Probably a bit, but it's not deserving of being called useless. I think it's a good idea to compare it to cluster bomb. First off, youve got a lot of footage of you trying to kill a bile titan and chargers with it, both heavy targets. If you were trying the same thing with cluster bombs, the whole of the helldiver community would be laughing at you. It trades off widespread kill potential for focused damage that has low teamkill potential. Plus it can kill spore spewers and shrieker nests.
It's greatest use is against bile spewers, and if there is any indirect buff you could give the strafing run it would be gaining knowledge of the enemy composition before dropping. If you knew bile spewers were on the ground before dropping, youd be in a really great spot if you brought one of these.
Like someone else mentioned, the key to gaining value out of this stratagem is to use it essentially off cooldown. Running a second eagle hurts your ability to do this (500kg might be a second pick for dealing with bile titans for example, when you have orbital scatter as a mission modifier and can't bring orbital precision strike). You won't get big kill streaks of 25+ with it, but getting a juicy and SAFE pickoff of 8-15 targets is still decent.
Against bots this stratagem is less good. But i comes out quickly and can still hurt devastators. Doesn't offer and utility against tactical objectives either. Only plus side is that you can often find bots lining up nicely so in theory you can hit a lot of them with this. I'd still bring something else to get more value.
(edit: accidentally sent before i was done)
I'll give it another shot, I appreciate the advice and input!
As a bot player who often goes solo, I actually really like the Eagle Strafing Run as a way to add volume of fire to my builds when I already have Fabricator-killing utility like the Spear or Commando.
One major advantage of the Strafing Run is that it gets called in almost instantly, so it's a great panic button if you happen run into a lighter patrol. If you haven't been fully detected yet, enemies will also aggro onto the Eagle instead of you, making it a wonderful distraction for stealthy gameplay.
Eagle Smoke exists.. the Strafing gun is the worst? Bad take.. SKILL ISSUE
Smoke works wonder when you want to run away from Automaton though, bug not so much since they will face check and get you in their LoS again
@@MrSierra116 Not big on running away.
I run DILIGENCE CS', GRENADE PISTOLE OR DEAGLE, STUN GRENADES.
STRAFING RUN, PRECISION STRIKE, either WALKING BARRAGE or GATLING BARRAGE, 4th stratagem either laser or HMG.. sniper or railgun of I wanna deal with hulks.
What do u run...other than away? :p
i think they just need to make it wider, its suposed to do chaff clear like the orbital gatling and weak chargers hulks etc
That's what I said, but I guess it is still pretty strong apparently.
It just got buffed. Its pretty good tbh. The WORST eagle strat is the clusterbomb, is ~15 extra kills worth TK'ing a teammate?
@@dukkiegamer1733 I mean I’m not the one that tosses it on teammates, I wait at least for the area to clear of teammates, but I get annoyed when people toss it because they don’t care I’m right there.
Cluster TK more than enemy and that's me playing with a buddy, he kept getting me killed with it, its annoying
@@MrSierra116 understandable, I try not to get annoyed at teammates about it, but they could wait just a few more seconds for me to get away before they call it in lol
Skill issue brother, it has amazing utility after the buff and can dish out nice damage very quickly.
Probably
its the strongest strategem in the game against groups of bile spewers, it oneshots some bug secondarie objectives, its ok against groups of enemies, and it has many uses.
Don't worry I tried it out, and i did a complete 180 on the stratagem in my recent video, I do genuinely like it
Inconsistency is the name of the game in helldivers lol. Seriously though, I've legit had people try to convince me on Twitter that im just bad and strafing run is actually really good lol.
They did just give it a buff to the damage and an extra use per rearm but it wasn't enough. It needs a much wider line of fire for starters (as you mentioned)
@@RepublicofODLUM literally, like for me if I’m not praying to still be alive after the strike hits or if I’m not deaf afterwards, there’s something wrong haha
The Orbital Gatling Barrage buff in the same patch made that strategem awesome. I use it every game now. The strafe, however just isn't there. I love playing with high up time stuff....Orbital gatling, OG machine gun sentry, etc but I never use strafe because 5 uses of crap is still crap
@@Degarth the Gatling barrage definitely had that noticeable difference, but yeah I’m still yet to see anything different with the Strafe, glad I’m not the only one
@@Degarth I agree the orbital gattling is really good now, orbital precision too. They are two of my favorite strats now, gattling more for bugs but the precision is good for both factions and in almost every mission with how fast it comes back, especially with the extra radius the new upgrade gave it.
@RepublicofODLUM I use Orbital gatling mostly on bots. I only play bugs when it is an MO. I'd say it's as good on bots you just don't get as big kill count numbers, but that's just bots being less numerous. It's just such a great area denial tool and with full upgrades the cool down time is amazing.
Strafe should be like a tighter area, more targeted version of OGC but instead it is like someone fired 4 stalwarts from a helicopter side door 😁
They could make it like helldivers 1 with a very high call count before reload, and add a little more spread. With the fast action time and easy to control deployment, it would help against packs of hunters and other smaller terminids, which are quite the common cause of death when you're busy dealing with the big non thinking bugs.
Never will be a solo stratagem, but in teams it would be able to save some nasty situations and those precious reinforcements on helldiver. *Remembers swarms traumas while dealing with titans on geological surveys *
Yeah, after a couple of days, I just completely missed on this video, this was not a good one. I've used it more often the past couple of days, and it has really grown on me. I still stand on what I said about tweaking the spread of it just a little bit bigger.
Maybe they laced my strafing runs because they DESTROY enemies
I guess mine was dealing with ED, but I'll give it the blue pill of democracy to get it back up.
I come back and try the strafing run every so often to switch things up. when i started in april it was only good vs light targets, no heavy armor pen. but it was an okay area of effect. it also had fewer uses per rearm so the cluster bomb outclassed it completely
with the last major patch they buffed the armor pen and the damage so it felt pretty decent, and the number of uses so it could be spammed more. I found it really effective as a "support" for another stratagem - for example, the spear usually can't one-shot a hulk or titan, but would damage it enough for the strafing run to finish it off. i had tons of fun with this combo. the armor pen also made it able to destroy bug mushrooms, so you could wipe a spore spewer or 2/3s of a shrieker nest with a single strafe. However, with the patch i feel like they nerfed the width? it felt less forgiving if you missed to the side. also, at some point after the patch i felt like i couldn't make the spear-strafe combo work as well - hulks would previously ALWAYS die to 1 spear + 1 strafe but more recently have been surviving strafes that should've killed them
its ideal place is definitely as a sort of "spammable multitool" that can take out certain structures, or put in that little bit of extra damage against heavy enemies, or clear some of a pursuing horde. It's also a very "safe" stratagem that is very unlikely to kill yourself or your team, which is nice. I do think it needs to be inspected by the devs for consistency, as well as buffing the width of the burst just a tiny bit
and yes they really need to add that A-10 brrt
In my most recent video, I went back to it and used it more often and it was a lot of fun, so I definitely take back what I said about in this video.
Tbf it sounding really cool but turning out to be shit actually makes it MORE like the A-10 than people think
Better against bots. Recently buffed. Lots of uses. Comes in quick. I take it to every bot run, actually. So, hardly useless. That said, would love to see it buffed further cause it's so cool. Would also like to have a sound effect buff to make it sound more like an A-10 Vulcan.
>can take down Spore
>can take down Shrieker hotels
>can soften heavy and clear medium armor IF you aim right
>input code is the shortest like Precision, can spam, call down timer is super fast
In no way Straffing is useless
Not flashy, yes, but definitely not useless
Yeah that's my bad, I jumped the gun on calling it useless. In my next video I incorporated it, and it was fun using it.
I remember using it all the time in the original helldivers because I thought it was pretty good
In the original helldivders classic the heavy strafe did an absolute assload of damage to anything not heavy armored.
They should balance this game around us doing an assload of damage, but being made of wet tissue paper.
Instead we are made of wet tissue paper and our guns are a moist fart.
This is bad?
I had no idea!
@@Marxon1134 just in my experience, it’s not the best, there’s other things that are better. But people have said it’s good in certain situations, so I’ll probably revisit it and see how I feel, but like I said I think there’s other things that are way better
TLDR: he doesn't like it and thinks it needs a buff
it’s not that I don’t like it, and I know I shouldn’t say it needs a GIANT buff, but I think it could be slightly tweaked just to make it even more sought after in higher levels
@@sammybear-o4c I love it.. but do agree the width of the run should be wider
@@salaciousdaz8316 I was using it a little bit recently, for my next video I was gonna put out. it is a themed load out, and it was actually pretty fun using it. So I guess I wasn’t giving it the credit it deserved
Made this video a little too late after the patch.
@@LD-sx9pr yeah
it's an early game strat
lvl 1 - 6 IMO
just like the machinegun strat
you can't expect to survive on helldive with this strat, it's why lvl progression is in the game
Precision is the first Stratagem for everybody and i brought it on Helldive solo, this is a you problem
@@MrSierra116 i said early game not first,
helldive solo is easy, the difficulty scales with the amount of players
go play cata vermintide 2 solo for a hard experience. helldivers 2 is a joke when it comes to difficulty
Ive seen it do pretty well against those heavy devesatators
this was buffed recently and i have oneshoted bile titans with it
@@aifven4683 after I did this video, people were telling me to go back and use it, and I did, I did kill a couple of bile titans, but they were pretty weak, but I guess if you line it up right and you get a good consistency, it could one shot
I disagree, though I admit I prefer using the orbital airburst, Gatling barrage, or regular airstrike. I think it's in a decent place, though.
@@morgan3392 yeah I realize that now, I think it is better than I originally thought. I still stand on the tweak the strafe should have a wider firing line
Eagle run is bad? WHEN you tested this?
@@krolprzemoc1983 just the strafing run isn’t that good, I just think it could be better, and I was messing around with it just a couple days ago
@@sammybear-o4c ok . I really like that "run" before buff's was a JOKE now can destroy Shrieks nest put down charger's finish titian's... Only angle and some other condition makes here a difference 😀
@@krolprzemoc1983 I’ve killed chargers with it before, I’m still yet to see it destroy a shriekers nest, and never once have I seen it kill a bile titan, maybe after like 10 runs I can maybe see it killing it
It is useless dont make a follow up even after the recent ish buff its still ass cluster is far better better even so cluster also so sucks so if its worse than that then its pretty shit
HERETIC
@@kojikashiin319 “they are lying to you arbiter” - heretic probably, anyways my opinion changed on this completely, check out my recent video
@@sammybear-o4c it’s all good, I just love using the H slur
@@kojikashiin319 HERETICS
This stratagem is not useless, you are useless