I like that you are building old-school decks. It shows a bit of history. I ran a variation this in a local tournament . I had made it control agro... Using power surge and antiquites.. 2:2 factory land until end of turn. Power surge shut down blue. Savannah lion and thunder spirit as my first strikers that fly. It was great against those that played power cards...at the time. Of course this was in 94-95 when I played it. It was so fun. Oh ...golbin balloon too with fire breathing. As a side board I had circle of pro. Emerald mox with beserk and 4 ball lightning for more fun. Your deck list was very similar to mine as far as chaos orb which I only had one.
Dang Edwin. I am trying to make it to this but in the beginning of the work week makes it hard. Aaron is a great guy and "The Horde" are a great group of people. Sorry for the loss that is bringing you to the PNW but hope you can get your mind off of things while enjoying some old school.
This is nearly exactly my first oldschool deck. I love it. Plays great against all kinds of things. I'm still chasing those duals though... got to get rid of those proxys at some point
As always, Edwin: Great Video, exuding your usual joyful love for this great game! Thank you for sharing your passion with the growing Old School Community! Perhaps in a future video you can share your thoughts on the current state of the growing *inclusiveness* of Old School, due to growing acceptance of Eternal Central Rules, especially with a focus on the *Legality* of Collectors' Edition Cards in their *UN*sanctioned events. A major point of discussion can (or should) include talk about how things went at (this upcoming) Eternal Weekend, which is now **ALLOWING** with WotC's approval (!!!!) the use of Collectors' Edition (and International Collectors' Edition) cards in their Old School Side Events. Thoughts? Reactions? Encouragement to continue the spirit of Old School Inclusivity, etc, Either way, your thoughts are always welcomed by your viewers (that's why we subscribe). KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! :)
Great to hear your analysis of Shahrazad with the lack of tricks to get cards in opponent's hand/graveyard, however, could Wheel of Fortune work in this deck (although I noticed its recent price increase)? All the best.
I would probably go with something like this instead: Mana 10 plains 1 strip mine (R in local rules) 1 mountain 4 plateau 4 mishra's factory (Mandatory, too good not to include) 4 land tax Creatures 4 lions 4 javelineers 4 knight 4 order Another option is ironclaw orcs since they are easier to cast with factories and strips. Spells 4 bolt 4 chain 4 plow 4 disenchant (Cut one for chaos orb if you feel like it) 2 jalum tome (One could argue for sol ring due to this card) 2 armageddon (I'd cut them if going for pump!) You could reasonably fit in 4 crusades, army of allah, jihad or some other creature pump.
Great to see your doing a Deck Tech again! Interesting build with some unconventional choices such as the Army of Allah and the three moons. Interesting to see how this deck differs from the Swedish brews that I usually play against. Why did you decide to play with 3 chains and not 4?
Edwin, I like your deck idea. As Old School decks are very creature-heavy, I would play the Preachers main and take the Pikemen out. The Preachers are the best cards in Pink Weenie.
Hi Edwin, Massive fan love your deck techs and thoughts. I always was wondering if you had done a land tax and lands edge deck or play tested with that?
Good Morning Edwin! I hope you and the family had a good Halloween, Did you guys all dress up? Curious to what everyone was if you did. Anyways thanks for the shoutout! I watched the whole video I love how good disenchant is in the old-school formats vs standard / modern etc. Also me and my brother have always loved the FBB JPN/KOR swag even way back in the day. I remember when they use to be really valuable and sought after (They still are, just not like back in the mid 90's). Was going to shoot a halloween special with my full latex zombie makeup, but it started ripping before I could get the video done :( Curious to how hard you think it would be to upload 1 video every day for a month?
I'm trying to build a deck around Kismet(white), Smoke(red) and Meekstone(artifact), With icy manipulator. Anyone thoughts on this ? Would like some help/suggestions.... Edit: spelling.
Hello Edwin.. Greetings from Denmark. I've been following your channel for quite some time and really enjoyed your videos. So please continue the good work :) In relation to your deck tech I have some questions about some of your choices since i'm in the brewing proces of making a Pink Weenie list myself. Have you considered Thunder Spirits or did you leave them out purposely because of the price tag? Also i'm curios to hear why you have choosen to leave out the Crusades with that high a creature count and Land Tax as well when you mainly run basics? Thanks :)
Thunder Spirits, yeah mostly price tag related. I already pushed the price up due to duals and orb, the Thunder Spirits are VERY limited use cards and if a person had so few expensive cards that they need to drop hundreds of dollars... it's MUCH better to spend those hundreds on Duals and an Orb. Army of Allah hits harder at that moment, which is extra-good with First Strike, has the surprise factor (meaning you catch blockers off guard), cannot get disenchanted in the middle of the attack, and makes your opponents fear cards in your hand (letting you bluff more). Consider that I really don't have many artifacts/enchantments in this deck so the opponent PROBABLY has a Disenchant sitting there in their hand waiting... This way, it remains a mostly dead card. About the Land Tax.. that really is a good debate, especially with Geddon. However, much of the time I don't seem to be struggling to find mana and I want to keep that pressure on and draw a creature over Land Tax. It's a good debate though.
Sigh, no Army of Alah or Chaos Orb...just a bit short. Do I want LoA, in a deck that dumps hand? Seems left out for good reason. Though you suggested reason was price.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer me to I'vd never have been able to play oldschool and want to try it out. I was one of those kids who wasn't allowed to play because of the art. I do have some great star trek cards that are worth soooo much haha. Hope you have a good time everyone is great.
2nd comment I have seen about the name.. I like your suggestion... ok I'll change it to Mid-Price. Good recommendation about the replacement for Orb if you don't own one. I agree!
Haha, midrange already means something in MtG lingo, and it does NOT refer to the price of the deck. You might want to change the title of your series because it is a little misleading. Just letting you know, it's also not a huge deal ;)
that's true... I'm not sure what else to use... Mid-level expense? Less than most expensive? More expensive then budget? Middle Expense? Median Priced? Medium Priced?
I like that you are building old-school decks. It shows a bit of history. I ran a variation this in a local tournament . I had made it control agro... Using power surge and antiquites.. 2:2 factory land until end of turn. Power surge shut down blue. Savannah lion and thunder spirit as my first strikers that fly. It was great against those that played power cards...at the time. Of course this was in 94-95 when I played it. It was so fun. Oh ...golbin balloon too with fire breathing. As a side board I had circle of pro. Emerald mox with beserk and 4 ball lightning for more fun. Your deck list was very similar to mine as far as chaos orb which I only had one.
I love the Land Tax/Winds of Change idea. I think that could turn out very well.... Great pink weenie deck. Looking forward to more videos... thanks!
Dang Edwin. I am trying to make it to this but in the beginning of the work week makes it hard. Aaron is a great guy and "The Horde" are a great group of people. Sorry for the loss that is bringing you to the PNW but hope you can get your mind off of things while enjoying some old school.
Great video :) Thanks :)
One thing though:
Preacher doesn't trade one of your creatures for his... It just steals one of his creatures (he chooses) :)
I should have phrased it better, thanks for that.
This is nearly exactly my first oldschool deck. I love it. Plays great against all kinds of things. I'm still chasing those duals though... got to get rid of those proxys at some point
The prices seem to be softening on Revised duals... might be time to strike pretty soon.
As always, Edwin: Great Video, exuding your usual joyful love for this great game! Thank you for sharing your passion with the growing Old School Community! Perhaps in a future video you can share your thoughts on the current state of the growing *inclusiveness* of Old School, due to growing acceptance of Eternal Central Rules, especially with a focus on the *Legality* of Collectors' Edition Cards in their *UN*sanctioned events. A major point of discussion can (or should) include talk about how things went at (this upcoming) Eternal Weekend, which is now **ALLOWING** with WotC's approval (!!!!) the use of Collectors' Edition (and International Collectors' Edition) cards in their Old School Side Events. Thoughts? Reactions? Encouragement to continue the spirit of Old School Inclusivity, etc, Either way, your thoughts are always welcomed by your viewers (that's why we subscribe). KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! :)
Hi Timothy, Thanks for the comment, the positivity, and the topic. I agree thats a worthy topic and deserves a video.
Great series! Hope to see more!!
Your wish is in the process of being granted :)
Great to hear your analysis of Shahrazad with the lack of tricks to get cards in opponent's hand/graveyard, however, could Wheel of Fortune work in this deck (although I noticed its recent price increase)? All the best.
Great video. I have this deck. Very good
Love your content Edwin - keep it coming. Hope to jam some games some day soon!
me too Leandro, it was fun meeting you in Vegas.
I love the intro music !
I would probably go with something like this instead:
Mana
10 plains
1 strip mine (R in local rules)
1 mountain
4 plateau
4 mishra's factory
(Mandatory, too good not to include)
4 land tax
Creatures
4 lions
4 javelineers
4 knight
4 order
Another option is ironclaw orcs since they are easier to cast with factories and strips.
Spells
4 bolt
4 chain
4 plow
4 disenchant
(Cut one for chaos orb if you feel like it)
2 jalum tome
(One could argue for sol ring due to this card)
2 armageddon
(I'd cut them if going for pump!)
You could reasonably fit in 4 crusades, army of allah, jihad or some other creature pump.
Great to see your doing a Deck Tech again! Interesting build with some unconventional choices such as the Army of Allah and the three moons. Interesting to see how this deck differs from the Swedish brews that I usually play against. Why did you decide to play with 3 chains and not 4?
Why don't you do it ?!?!
Edwin, I like your deck idea. As Old School decks are very creature-heavy, I would play the Preachers main and take the Pikemen out. The Preachers are the best cards in Pink Weenie.
I suppose to some degree it depends on Meta. Seems like I end up playing against more control decks or other decks with small creatures.
Hi Edwin,
Massive fan love your deck techs and thoughts.
I always was wondering if you had done a land tax and lands edge deck or play tested with that?
Sweet deck tech
Good Morning Edwin! I hope you and the family had a good Halloween, Did you guys all dress up? Curious to what everyone was if you did. Anyways thanks for the shoutout! I watched the whole video I love how good disenchant is in the old-school formats vs standard / modern etc. Also me and my brother have always loved the FBB JPN/KOR swag even way back in the day. I remember when they use to be really valuable and sought after (They still are, just not like back in the mid 90's). Was going to shoot a halloween special with my full latex zombie makeup, but it started ripping before I could get the video done :( Curious to how hard you think it would be to upload 1 video every day for a month?
I'm trying to build a deck around Kismet(white), Smoke(red) and Meekstone(artifact), With icy manipulator. Anyone thoughts on this ? Would like some help/suggestions....
Edit: spelling.
Hello Edwin.. Greetings from Denmark. I've been following your channel for quite some time and really enjoyed your videos. So please continue the good work :) In relation to your deck tech I have some questions about some of your choices since i'm in the brewing proces of making a Pink Weenie list myself.
Have you considered Thunder Spirits or did you leave them out purposely because of the price tag? Also i'm curios to hear why you have choosen to leave out the Crusades with that high a creature count and Land Tax as well when you mainly run basics? Thanks :)
Yea, I was curious about Crusades over Army of Allah as well.
Thunder Spirits, yeah mostly price tag related. I already pushed the price up due to duals and orb, the Thunder Spirits are VERY limited use cards and if a person had so few expensive cards that they need to drop hundreds of dollars... it's MUCH better to spend those hundreds on Duals and an Orb.
Army of Allah hits harder at that moment, which is extra-good with First Strike, has the surprise factor (meaning you catch blockers off guard), cannot get disenchanted in the middle of the attack, and makes your opponents fear cards in your hand (letting you bluff more). Consider that I really don't have many artifacts/enchantments in this deck so the opponent PROBABLY has a Disenchant sitting there in their hand waiting... This way, it remains a mostly dead card.
About the Land Tax.. that really is a good debate, especially with Geddon. However, much of the time I don't seem to be struggling to find mana and I want to keep that pressure on and draw a creature over Land Tax. It's a good debate though.
Edwin the Magic Engineer good reasoning on Army of Allah vs Crudade. 👌
List please if you could edwin thanks
Sigh, no Army of Alah or Chaos Orb...just a bit short. Do I want LoA, in a deck that dumps hand? Seems left out for good reason. Though you suggested reason was price.
Would crusade be a good idea in this deck you think?
Bummer that's my LGS but I'll be working late that night :(
Sorry to hear that, I wish you could have been there.
@@EdwintheMagicEngineer me to I'vd never have been able to play oldschool and want to try it out. I was one of those kids who wasn't allowed to play because of the art. I do have some great star trek cards that are worth soooo much haha. Hope you have a good time everyone is great.
I thought it was midrange as in the game strategy kind of way lol.
Yeah I'm going to change the name to be more clear :)
Are the revised plateaus old school? Because they are not the original artwork....
Indeed yes they are!
www.eternalcentral.com/9394rules/
Any reprint with original artwork, on the original card frame and NON foil is allowed.
i want more serra angel from forth 4th aedition or before
don't we all lol
Sorry, I am the dude sitting on like 48.
@@steffensgary i have 60 something
@@ZenTeT - I prefer the term "pre- archeologist" to hoarder
@@steffensgary rofl
Buddy you are misusing the term "mid-range". " Your decklist is WWr, a Mid-price list.
A solid replacement for the chaos orb is the third disenchant.
2nd comment I have seen about the name.. I like your suggestion... ok I'll change it to Mid-Price.
Good recommendation about the replacement for Orb if you don't own one. I agree!
I love magic but I only play arena since I don't own any physical cards
I love paper because I love to actually play with something tangible with friends in person.
Haha, midrange already means something in MtG lingo, and it does NOT refer to the price of the deck. You might want to change the title of your series because it is a little misleading. Just letting you know, it's also not a huge deal ;)
that's true... I'm not sure what else to use...
Mid-level expense?
Less than most expensive?
More expensive then budget?
Middle Expense?
Median Priced?
Medium Priced?