21 Weeks to Pro Cycling Fitness | Training Analysis

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  • @Reply2024
    @Reply2024 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Awesome vid Jesse, would love to see a bit of a race breakdown from your perspective, and thoughts on what you might do differently or plan to do if you complete again next year.

    • @nerocoaching
      @nerocoaching  ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Thanks. Probs won't do a video on that, but I'll answer here. To do better, I would:
      - train more through the middle of the year, so I'm not coming from such a low starting point
      - more cold water in the feedzone. Plapp and others wer dumping cold water all over themselves every lap, I only had ice. Would have an extra helper in feedzone with cold water purely to assist in keeping core temp down
      - more caffeine. Only carried 2x Beta Fuel Nootropic gels, had one 2 hours in, and 3 hours in. Should have had one at hours 1, 2, 3 and 4. I could feel that I wanted more caffeine
      - more road races in training. I missed a few local road races because I had events on weekends. Would have been good to get to them for an extra bit of conditioning to deal with the race pace & surges
      That's about it, everything else was spot on IMO.

    • @Reply2024
      @Reply2024 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@nerocoaching interesting to see how much is race day specific. Thanks for replying btw. Also was thinking about what you said on Nero show about should you keep training this hard and racing this hard. As a former semi professional athlete that gave up on my old sport, just go for it Jesse you have 80 years left in your life to grow your business and have a more normal life. Just my 2 cents, anyway looking forward to seeing how your racing goes this year. 🤩🤩🤩.

  • @xuchenglin6256
    @xuchenglin6256 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    This is the most valuable/informative video about cycling training or endurance training in general as I have ever seen! (and I have seen a LOT...) Few points stands out: 1. Frequency is over everything. To get fitter, the simplest/easiest approach is just, run/cycle/swim everyday. This is the most overlooked aspect of the training and is my biggest "discovery" of my own. I made the most of my fitness gain when I simply challenged myself to cycle or run everyday. It's more effective than anything else, like workout structure or even intensity distribution. Unfortunately cycling is too much time consuming that I couldn't "afford" to do everyday, but luckily running is very feasible. I now run everyday and the fitness gained from running everyday actually translate very well into cycling, it's more effective than when I only do 2-3 big rides (with complicated "training" target) every week and rest all the other days. 2. The volume is HUGE. We all heard the anecdote that pros training up to 20 hrs a week, but most sources couldn't reveal more. Your video is the first time that I actually have seen someone actually doing that in real life, with everything fully disclosure. This eagle view is so sick... That I actually have a hard time to believe when I saw your 20hr/week "build" and 27hr/week "sharp" phase. This is just... Insane... It's not something that you can do on your part time. It's a full time job. 3. We don't deserve it (400w FTP), and shouldn't worry about it. After seeing the time and effort commitment you put in there to "get back" that 400w, for the first time in my head the voice says "oh man you should let this go, it just doesn't worth it". I don't even want to do this anymore. However there's also a big relief, that if guys like you can only maintain a "321w FTP" when you are just living your life, then we normalings should be more than happy to just have something like 300w and enjoy riding.
    Really great effort into this and this video itself! Keep doing it!

  • @alfkro8490
    @alfkro8490 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Wow, managed to squeeze a wedding into a 5 months 27hr/week training effort. Good race result for sure! Kudos to you and your lovely angelically patient wife!

  • @anandachu3636
    @anandachu3636 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Really like the video and the fascinating insights into your training and preparation mate! I think the fact that you started off in mid-August with relatively low fitness levels shows that you don't always need to have your fitness at 100% the whole season, and that it is ok to take periods of rest in the season if your target events/races are several months away - assuming of course you already have a strong aerobic foundation from years of riding.

    • @nerocoaching
      @nerocoaching  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yep exactly. Although I'm at the absolute limit of what I can progress in a relatively short amount of time. If I wanted to do any better, I'd have to train more consistently all year so I'm not starting from so far behind when I start ramping it up

  • @jongoerke8983
    @jongoerke8983 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wonderful! As a numbers guy, really appreciate the detail. You’re hitting numbers that are long gone for me (65 yo), but loved every second of this. Congratulations on your training and success!

  • @user-ur5vw1gi4v
    @user-ur5vw1gi4v ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your (the) best videos on training by far. This is pure gold, simple effortless, natural and well built. Thanks for this you're truly a pro.

  • @pjetrs
    @pjetrs ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for this video, so much more insightful than the sensory overload of most other training videos and you really boiled it down to the most important things and did mention why things worked for you specifically. Often people talk about doing 18 hour training weeks as if that is normal for everyone and forget that most people didn't have a previous 400 watt ftp, more like 200.
    Also quite motivational, I was thinking about the possibility to raise my 305 ftp (all time high) to 350 and wasn't sure if that was too much of a goal for a time crunched athlete, but this motivates me to just go for it, even with limited training time

  • @dustind9242
    @dustind9242 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad to have learned a bit more about your training. Found my way here from a couple of the guests you've had on your podcast/other channel with your buddy. Appreciate you taking the the time to walk us through your training leading up to your A event.

  • @jeronimosuarez7957
    @jeronimosuarez7957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favourite video on your channel! Performance focus, personal experience, prep for a specific event. Top!

  • @marcus_velo_9970
    @marcus_velo_9970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You 'talk the talk, walk the walk', a clear demonstration of commitment and effort which brought about a very successful outcome. how many pro teams in that race had failures on the day, hot heads, poor tactics, maybe riders who just didn't prepare as well, the wrong mindset, where here you are a one man band, supremely prepared, don't be surprised if you get a call from some pro team outfits who want you to coach their riders. Just shows unless you can demonstrate what you say just shut up.

  • @StephanieLuff
    @StephanieLuff ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for sharing! I love talking data. I greatly appreciate your transparency, including mentioning what was easy and what was hard.

  • @jfreck
    @jfreck ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Epic. Appreciate the effort you put into this

  • @francoishofmeyr2123
    @francoishofmeyr2123 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hi Jesse.
    Just want to say I really enjoyed this video. Not many people make these videos and I think this might be a gap in yourube cycling. The insights and personal preferences aren't shared commonly.
    Just one point that I wanted to add with the cutting fibre the day before. I found that if I cut fibre out 3 days before the race I am able to loose 1-3kg depending how much fibre I've been eating previously day to day. Not only do I feel lighter, but I actually am. Maybe just something others might want to consider.
    Once again keep up the work!

  • @andrewsugden1215
    @andrewsugden1215 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Incredible preparation and race Jesse. WELL DONE!

  • @colmsheahan6991
    @colmsheahan6991 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Transparency at its finest. Brilliant and insightful video Jesse. Big fan of this channel.

  • @jaigeyer9596
    @jaigeyer9596 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting. And a very well produced video. Thanks for sharing

  • @neilmckenna236
    @neilmckenna236 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mate, that was a brilliant and extremely interesting watch. Really enjoyed it! Big well done on a first class preparation and execution!! Just a wee follow up from the Nero show and your 'what shall i do now?' I know its easy for me to say but you should capitalise on all those gains and see how far you can push things 😀👍👌

  • @matejburian3191
    @matejburian3191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Mr. Coyle, No BS just straight to the point and a really good showcase study

  • @jasoreed
    @jasoreed 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve never had any formal road training or coaching in 20 years of cycling, still rode the amateur Roubaix, just love riding your bike.

  • @cfau6290
    @cfau6290 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So much value in this! Thanks for making the effort doing this video!

  • @Ultegra10SPD
    @Ultegra10SPD หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kind of gives me a look at what was available to me 1/2 a life ago (just not the tools to acquire the data naturally) had I really wanted it. Now, at masters age, husband, father, career, home handyman, grad school, this doesn't even look adaptable or scalable to my current situation. Not racing on the road anymore and I let my TT bike go this spring. Don't do CX b/c most races are on Sunday and that is not an option.
    So right now struggling with notion of why am I still doing 7hrs/wk (to avg 1hr/day). Most of it now is easy. Don't have any events forthcoming. Do not know what the next chapter is. Always hit a wall @ 300. I always hit a wall on weight (and get sick) when i flirt with 180lb. Never have unlocked the key to what makes my gut/digestive system happy (or angry). Guess a bit lost on what to do next. I have picked up a MTB just to do something different (and less time on dangerous roads) but I do not like going fast in the woods.
    Admittedly, I am terribly afraid of diabetes (and other health issues that come with age) and also desire never to go back to where i was health/weight wise @ mmmm say 23 to 33yo.
    Best wishes,
    -U10
    PS - Nice touch with the BurnNotice

  • @burnsideisback
    @burnsideisback ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man I needed this. Racing 1 month away and got sick. Ftp 345... trying to get to 360 about same weight as you. So frustrating. Going to do what you did.

    • @kpsig
      @kpsig 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did it work out?

  • @lsc5403
    @lsc5403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sincere congrats mate! Nailed the training, the race, and the vid prep to bring this video content at the end of it all. Making Sydney proud! You scored with a sauna in the building, too.

  • @_cyclist_
    @_cyclist_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really nice vid! Halfway through it I realised I had actually watched the aussie nats back in january, from Europe, as there were no other races broadcasted at the time. Well done!

  • @derekelliott1026
    @derekelliott1026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video! No wonder you did so well, thorough and thoughtful prep. Nice job.

  • @rawmancemtb
    @rawmancemtb ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel has offered a lot of the specific type of content explaining what it actually is. Like with fueling. Plenty of videos about carbs and how much but so little about what people actually take to a ride. All this theory but no practice. I'm a mountainbiker looking to apply actual effective training into trail riding. There's so much more knowledge available compared to 5-6 years ago. Have been actively watching content for about 6 months now and I have a pretty good grasp on how I need to ride for results.

  • @Uberpaker
    @Uberpaker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for those insights Jesse, really makes one appreciate the consistency and dedication required for one to be a part of the mix during road nats in a competitive country. Also, wow you are quite an athlete! Cheers from Italy

  • @swites
    @swites ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super interesting to see how its done. Thanks for posting and showing all these insights. Amazing the gains you got just in the endurance phase. Shows consistency is super important rather than big long rides periodically. 6.6w/kg for 7mins is super impressive! 5w/kg for the same duration is hard enough I find!

  • @Tim_McMurray
    @Tim_McMurray ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video, it’s great to see how you’ve done it and that it’s about simplicity, consistency and also knowing your body and tailoring to what you feel. Thanks for sharing all this Jesse 👍

  • @brunospasta
    @brunospasta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Crazy numbers. Just with a few weeks endurance back to 390 FTP at 75 kg... that's some natural talent speaking :D

  • @tonyharlick8038
    @tonyharlick8038 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesse really appreciate the effort you went to presenting the vid and thorough explanation. Hats off to you. I find it very interesting and just shows the effort you have to make at top national level.

  • @MrBoggins1234
    @MrBoggins1234 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is perfect insight thank you. Huge effort in editing too. Subscribed best of luck in your racing.

  • @thecyclinggreek274
    @thecyclinggreek274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great video Jesse. A couple of things that stood out to me are the amount of endurance (I incresed mine this year relative to my 40 hr/week job), and doing intervals toward the end of your ride (I'll start experimenting with that).

  • @jamesgelsthorpe8616
    @jamesgelsthorpe8616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid, really insightful. More please lol. Its motivating me to get back to previous fitness levels after a year or two of just ticking over

  • @Malte1878
    @Malte1878 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boring Endurance for 3-5 hours is a KILLA! I try to increase mine from 2hrs to 3 right now. So hard! I can knock out intervalls all day. Love em. But real zone2.....Kudos!

  • @RicoRides1
    @RicoRides1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of details and interesting ways to train. I think this is the 1st cycling video about an event that never said the exact result. I guess you were pleased with whatever the placement was, so way to go!

    • @dfasnhjaknhk
      @dfasnhjaknhk ปีที่แล้ว

      He got 21st. Finished up placing just behind Caleb Ewan and Chris Harper. Crazy good effort.

  • @MaLdocK
    @MaLdocK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this video! The dedication to train and weight loss has been broken down into small digestable parts that make it look doable, albeit with proper time management and rest. Bookmarked and something to consider following after my holiday trip this festive season (Chinese New Year)! Cheers Jesse!

  • @cookiecrumbler79
    @cookiecrumbler79 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a mere mortal who tries to dabble in racing this amazing. Congrats on the result.

  • @arnoud3ss
    @arnoud3ss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, bringing detail on how you built up your pro level fitness in an very understandable way. Even though my fitness level will never get be as good (never!), it motivates me to think more about how to approach my MAML fitness. Thank you for that and taking the time to invest in making this video. It shows how you probably also approach your coaching. Looking forward to the next one. Only comment my wife had: does het really like it, since he never smiles 😊?

  • @danielvenancio7483
    @danielvenancio7483 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed that Video! Thanks for all the insight and details around the buildup and progression... Especially enjoyed the "taper" week.

  • @kylehall4063
    @kylehall4063 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great insights, thanks for sharing & congrats on the event!

  • @valiantabello
    @valiantabello ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. Congratulations on your result and your wedding. Here's to a thousand years of happiness 🥂

  • @infovidasupps8640
    @infovidasupps8640 ปีที่แล้ว

    FANTASTIC video
    Thank you so much
    So much in-depth information.
    Really appreciate this

  • @danthackray5150
    @danthackray5150 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely want to see the insight!! What a great video.
    Such great content and always a full of funny moments!

  • @TheCyclingTattooist
    @TheCyclingTattooist ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir, are a master of your craft! Love your dedication… you animal! 🤪🙌

  • @florianbusch94
    @florianbusch94 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nobody can tell me Pantani, Armstrong and Ulrich trained on this deep level of science & structure back 25 years ago which makes Vingegaards and Pogacars fitness a lot more convincing, giving the fact that you’re absolutely crushing it yet aren’t even close to their abilities. This is nuts

  • @sam8m8
    @sam8m8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was a pleasure watching you in Buninyong - thank you the video mate. Incredibly helpful info! Plan to give the fondo a real crack next year after racing it for the first time.

  • @eggzacute
    @eggzacute ปีที่แล้ว

    Unreal content, so much insight so thank you! Would love to see you race the Warrny in a few weeks while you are strong

  • @aucklandtoday9847
    @aucklandtoday9847 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info, and thanks for showing us the bricks and mortar behind Nats' result

  • @bee_whisper
    @bee_whisper ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video and making me think about how to train for timetrails and long days out on the saddle

  • @mricho
    @mricho ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Jesse. Very insightful. Appreciate you putting all this together and sharing it with us.

  • @bitminerbob6731
    @bitminerbob6731 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truly incredible prep for Nationals and the result shows too!!! Well done. Almost 10k subs too!!

    • @82vitt
      @82vitt ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Should be 100k.

  • @bulbul4t0r
    @bulbul4t0r ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish I could be that fit to look at 321W FTP as "not in shape" :)

  • @seanreilly6618
    @seanreilly6618 ปีที่แล้ว

    the craziest part of the whole thing is that you are doing base training in October, Australia truly is upside down. Cheers from Canada.

  • @FaiscaaaH
    @FaiscaaaH ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic job Jesse, thanks for the video and all the info. shared. Chapeau mate.

  • @sshapiro112
    @sshapiro112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really liked this video, Jesse. Super useful insight into your training system.

  • @RPOLIVNICK
    @RPOLIVNICK ปีที่แล้ว

    So much great information in this video. Very interesting.

  • @garlic.naan2
    @garlic.naan2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video mate shows what it takes to be up the top of the sport even at domestic level

  • @czeckson74
    @czeckson74 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Congratulations to your wife and you !

  • @robredpath9860
    @robredpath9860 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video mate, it was awesome to watch you progress. Top 10 next year knowing what you have learned this time around.

  • @chrismadge7292
    @chrismadge7292 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve watched this video a few times over the last year,

  • @chrispyy606060606
    @chrispyy606060606 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome, thanks for the deep dive into your training.

  • @scottdavis3093
    @scottdavis3093 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing Insight. Great work and well Done Jesse.

  • @alainpfammatter8224
    @alainpfammatter8224 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for showing your training experience and advices. I will try to do the same😉

  • @endatheworld
    @endatheworld ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent insight into your training. I suspect that this is really helpful for lots of competitive cyclists of all levels.
    Certainly has been for me and I’m no where near elite.
    Also congrats on your performance in this nationals, and also kudos for your dedication and natural talent, mate. Awesome.

  • @SuperDaniels1234
    @SuperDaniels1234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now this is a quality video, thanks Jesse!

  • @Chriskuznetsoff
    @Chriskuznetsoff ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, can see all the effort put into it and great ride as well

  • @alexpickering.
    @alexpickering. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these vids, great insight

  • @scottw4538
    @scottw4538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top video. Really enjoyed it and very informative.

  • @juhanipalosaari6945
    @juhanipalosaari6945 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Will watch it again. So much usefull info.

  • @stevepowley7929
    @stevepowley7929 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep a Super Solid ride in the Nats
    You and Herf in the same colours was Easy to Spot
    Great Effort not many Finishers A1 Congrat,s

  • @Formula369
    @Formula369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kudos for making this video.

  • @timtaylor9590
    @timtaylor9590 ปีที่แล้ว

    good stuff man, you deserve more subs

  • @veganaus
    @veganaus ปีที่แล้ว

    Supplement with zinc in addition to iron and B12. Zinc, iron and B12 are the holy trinity of haemoglobim production

  • @LMGSounds
    @LMGSounds ปีที่แล้ว

    Really cool video and insight. Incredible work!

  • @nickbowd
    @nickbowd ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jesse. Super informative.

  • @joeshackleton240
    @joeshackleton240 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super interesting. Thanks for putting it out there.

  • @Siblove7
    @Siblove7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome stuff, thanks for putting together and sharing! Would love to see how to set up a similar optimal training plan but for those of us that can maximum set aside 10 hours of training per week.

    • @rebinu
      @rebinu ปีที่แล้ว

      just get a trainerroad plan or something, good deal of apps out there offering exactly this.

  • @adamsims6490
    @adamsims6490 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Jesse. Great dedication.

  • @przemyslawgawel8501
    @przemyslawgawel8501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crazy volume mate. Congrats.

  • @danielmoorhouse6506
    @danielmoorhouse6506 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant content. Thanks for sharing.

  • @freddiefuckenflintstone2623
    @freddiefuckenflintstone2623 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I reckon you should get a track bike and give state individual pursuit a go.

  • @martinkroutil
    @martinkroutil ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing info, thank you so much for your work.

  • @jayjam9106
    @jayjam9106 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant info Jesse. Thanks.

  • @ryanciocca9225
    @ryanciocca9225 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Went from 4 watt/kg to 5 watt/kg in 8 weeks. This is what we call god-like genetics.

  • @peterdhaile
    @peterdhaile 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was awesome, thanks!

  • @morellish
    @morellish ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video, so much good info. Thanks a lot!

  • @timdixo
    @timdixo ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating analysis,so many takeaways.
    Contrast to GCN vids,rarely do I gain insights from their fluff.

  • @patrickgregory1187
    @patrickgregory1187 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Currently trying to figure out how to do this in 3 weeks

  • @chrisobyrne5675
    @chrisobyrne5675 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good watch, think this type of video is a real sweet spot for you given your training, nutrition & coaching expertise. Having seen the bathroom picture I will never moan again about my garage being too hot to train in!

    • @paulw677
      @paulw677 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that looked proper nasty and would take so much dedication.

  • @dangda1
    @dangda1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the share mate, very insightful

  • @martinanderson1737
    @martinanderson1737 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Jesse. Really interested in how in your initial 10 week phase you had no time off at all. You mention the recovery aspect around 6 min but I'm really interested if you could go into even more depth on your approach "recovering as you go"

  • @veganaus
    @veganaus ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these vids Jesse. Great result at nationals

  • @Heliosmaster
    @Heliosmaster ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jesse! Really awesome video. Apart from the content of your training, which i completely agree with, I really think you did a fantastic job walking us through it and explaining us why you did what and how. Kinda made me want to sign up for your coaching ahaha 😂

  • @melbournecyclingsegments7510
    @melbournecyclingsegments7510 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome video. Gives us all some proper insights, thanks for sharing

  • @tobiasmesserschmidt2102
    @tobiasmesserschmidt2102 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this! Keep up the amazing Content

  • @davehanhela5997
    @davehanhela5997 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done. A great ride - it's excellent you got the result after all the effort. And what a lot of effort! Congrats :-)

  • @mattsammekull780
    @mattsammekull780 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Jesse!

  • @benhoadley4394
    @benhoadley4394 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jesse. I see you in the park fairly often... Your bike is really unique. Feel free to say hi as you fly past me

  • @suffa011
    @suffa011 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video and analysis, learned a lot !!!