The PA Gothic is a decent sub as long as it's used within it's capabilities, the 2.5" coil is enough of a clue for someone that knowledgeable with car audio, typically there good for 6-700wrms tops, if used in that wattage range you will get good service for years, also it's a smaller sized motor and coil with a light suspension so it doesn't need much wattage to get loud. You are right A 600 to 800w amp for 1 and 2 a 1000 to 1200w amp will push it just fine enough to get good thump in any vehicle and typically with a lower power sub your best off with 2 that would give you really respectful bump. A lot of people would be surprised how loud you can get on a true 1200w amp. My son has my old system which is 2 XR15s on a pioneer gm1200.1 and he's well into the 140dbs on music in a Tahoe, it's not as much as my system but that 40s is decent bump. My system is bit more violent but I have way more money his system could be duplicated for $650 plus $150+/- home built 8cf mdf ported. enclosure.
Surround quality and cone is kind of impressive. Good thickness and sewn in… I bought a one .. a single voice coil not dual.. a couple years back but just been sitting in spare cars trunk. Never really have played it.. but not bad with another power bass 12… around the same wattage but PA speaker looks built a little better from cone and surround.
The Gothics and mofos are actually pretty good. They will absolutely take 1200w, you have to understand how an amp works with music frequencies. So in that demo your amp and that sub would play in the 2-7ohm range, it mighta seen 2k at a given point but prob averaged 500-1000watts. You could run two of those off that bass 3K an bump it.
@@Zachecker it may have a break in smell but if ur smelling coil u are clipping cause these subs eat 1200 to 1500 RMS I had a smart on 2 and they slam
@@joshholden8561 The sub is leaning on the amp but the vibration should not be enough to mess it up. I couldent really change it at the time bc i had to record when i could but next time ill put something to absorb the vibration.
Power acoustick subs are some of the best subs you can get for the price I have not owned a gothic yet but I have owned mofos before and I can tell you that they may not handle the 1200 w rms that it says in the box but they sure out power some of the top brands like kickers, pioneers and kenwoods I was running a 4000w planet Audio amp and had a lot of doubts if that cheap amp actually produced as much power as it said it did just like you I was surprised to see it blow out a pair of kickers rated at 500w each at only 3/4 of its power and pair of pioneers also rated at 500w rms each at only half of its power I ended up getting a single 15in power acoustik with it’s crazy rating numbers and it handled the amp at 3/4 of volume and it produced some of the best bass I have heard in my life
Your box is half the size it’s supposed to be tho. Supposed to be 2.5 cubed. You have like 1 sq foot in that box. I have 2 in their own recommended 2.5 cubed boxes and it flexes my truck. I didn’t want to put them in the same box cause I like to move them around depending on what I’m doin and need, but it’s insane. The 2 boxes legit take up my whole ass crew cab and will vibrate your brain along with everything else. The vibration opened my tool box on the highway and I had to pull over so now I have a bike chain wrapped around it lmao
Hell yea thanks! I was wondering why this box was so small I got side used ystrdy fur 60 bucks they played well but their in dual box comparable total size to this, I'll throw them in bigger 1 I have!
I think they raised the prices I went to Walmart few days ago and I always check the car audio for fun and it said 120$ maybe they put it in the wrong place 🤷♂️
I got 5 of these lol. 2 subs pair razor amp. The 5th one is a spare on standby. They hit just right but someone told me to run each sub on its own razor amp. Sounds like a good idea but the 2 batteries i have wont be enough for 4 of them wired separately
Gotta admit this thing is very impressive i had that 2500 watt amp and it was not powerful enough to handle this subs capability at all i blew the amp with this thing had to get a much more powerful one been giving this thing absolute hell on some very hot days for hours at a time and its handling it like its nothing im probably pushing close to 3000 watts with no issues or loss in sound quality very impressive for this price
That box is junk!!! I had mine running on an rp2000 in a 5cf box it was actually hitting good. Yeah it got hot but I was running 1600 rms but it got down. If you had a better box it would hit...... the box is too small and tuned way too high...
Thank you for your concern the box is just a small demo box not for spl. And the sub did hit but it can not stay at 1200 rms for very long I blew it in a video not long after
@Zachecker yes but you can destroy any sub in the wrong box. That sub needs a box at least 2.3 cf. The one you have is half of that if not smaller and your turning is really bad. If you would have seen what it did in the box I build for my 15 you would be very surprised.
@@jamessalcido4667 thank you again but the box like I said isn’t meant for spl it’s a testing box that fits in my back seat so I can test and record without breaking my back every time I record. And I have done rms tests with other subwoofers in that box and it did great. The fact is the power acoustic is not on the level of those other subwoofers it is only a 2.5 inch coil that can handle at most a constant rms test tone of 750 watts. Thank you again for letting me know how bad my setup is for a cheap Walmart subwoofer that I had only for a video and not my main set up. I’m sorry that you feel I did that subwoofer an injustice. Maybe you should make a video all about it and send it to me and I’ll be the first to watch. 👍
@74midwestbass74 I’m a full time student I don’t have that much the spare. Trust me I would if I could. Most my items on my channel are sent to me. But for sure I will when I get more 🤑
I have 2 of these also...With a 2400 watt Hifonics Amp..I haven't had any problems out of them, 2 yrs Strong SLAPPING HARD Everyday..No Smoking,No Smell..just A Great affordable Speaker That's Really 1000-1100 RMS Easily!
I have 1200 skar and the subs hits 600 rms and the subs smells burn coil so i dont know if the sub have a issue or fsctory error.. oh snd the sub no cliping and notjing all ajust fine so for thr sub 2 stars haha
I love destruction and calling manufacturers on their BS probably more than the next guy but, i really want to see it in a box thats at least close to correct for it and played at the common sense rms power, you can usually tell when it gets to its max rms, with experience you can make a good call, and just see what its capable of, ive been surprised by cheap subs before, the difference the correct enclosure makes is huge, a speaker that costs thousands will sound bad in the wrong box, but for the guys that can only manage some walmart equipment, some tunes are better than none i dont knock any system that someone at least tried to setup correctly, i dont care if they got subs from thrift store sound bars, if they tried and it is not just garbled clipped mess i always give respect.
im using 2 power akoustic gothics at 56v 1.3 ohm...... Zero issues its been 4 years their well worn in no smells. i have mine setup in isobaric config , tuned to 24 hz, i dont like how your video is clickbait. if you are going to say whats' that smell Pump all 3k from that smart 3 if you can, And make it break. they can do well past 1200w i promise. Their are guys where i live that made a wall using gothics and a 5k amp he did 4 subs to .8 ohm, And the other 4 to .8 ohm Then put them together for 1.6 ohm, and feeds almost 80 volts into it its good for burps and his poor dodge carravan hates it But to each their own.
@@Zachecker new or old the speaker is only mechanically designed to play a limited frequency range. Im just thinking that subjecting it to anything above 200hz probably wouldnt help it at all
@@Zachecker the crossover is a setting on the amp that limits what frequencies get amplified and passed on to the subs. I am pretty sure the bass 3k has one built in to it. Large voicecoils are not efficient enough to play anything above low frequencies. Might be contributing to the smell
Fun video. That cheap spider would not last a year, especially when it starts to clip like that. Lanzar, Pyle, Pyle Pro, Legacy Epsilon Electronics: Power Acoustic, Precision Power, Farenheit, Soundstream, Kole, Pyramid on and on are all manufactured in the same factory, with the same components. Always spend the extra 100 dollars and get a pioneer D series or JL audio.
you should not have any issues if you set gains correctly and absolutely 0 clipping. but honestly i promise if you spend a little more money but still budget get 2 american bass elites 160 a peice on amazon and they handle that 2k without any issues what so ever. i have them on a 5k
@@Zachecker i’ll try and convince her she really wasn’t looking to spend a crazy amount and i’ve been getting recommended these a lot, realistically two of these wired to 1ohm they’d only be getting around 1000rms each on that amp correct? i’m still new to this whole thing and trying to learn.
@@Zachecker thanks for actually responding lmao. so having two subs doesn’t split the power output? if i have two wired to 1ohm their both getting the full 2000?
@@almightylynxx914 no they will be getting 2000 together but those subs can’t handle 1000 watts rms for very long. Power accoustik over rates their subwoofers. 2 subwoofers ide say are 1200 watts rms together
I love how you're so skeptical of something you have absolutely no idea about in the beginning. Not everyone can get what is considered a good quality sub right off of the bat not everyone has those means a job to get them or parents that give you an allowance to get them.
I was skeptical bc it was a ridiculous rating. I blew this subwoofer in a video to show that it isn’t the best for the money. Go with a Rockville k6 it’s cheaper and same rating. I got this sub to prove a point and it made a lot of people upset but the truth hurts
The PA Gothic is a decent sub as long as it's used within it's capabilities, the 2.5" coil is enough of a clue for someone that knowledgeable with car audio, typically there good for 6-700wrms tops, if used in that wattage range you will get good service for years, also it's a smaller sized motor and coil with a light suspension so it doesn't need much wattage to get loud. You are right A 600 to 800w amp for 1 and 2 a 1000 to 1200w amp will push it just fine enough to get good thump in any vehicle and typically with a lower power sub your best off with 2 that would give you really respectful bump. A lot of people would be surprised how loud you can get on a true 1200w amp. My son has my old system which is 2 XR15s on a pioneer gm1200.1 and he's well into the 140dbs on music in a Tahoe, it's not as much as my system but that 40s is decent bump. My system is bit more violent but I have way more money his system could be duplicated for $650 plus $150+/- home built 8cf mdf ported. enclosure.
Oh yeah I had a skar 1200 it pushed well
Those subs can take way more than a 1200 amp. XR’s pretty tough
lmfao size of coil doesn't mean it can only do 700 lol it's how much wire is wrapped around said coil and how good the glue is
I have 2 of the mofo 15s 2 ohm they SLAM
Yeah, I put one in a ~4ft^3 box with a huge port, worked pretty well that way
For the price you won't find a better sub, and I've pushed 1200 watts to one of them everyday for months no issue
I wouldn’t be comfortable pushing 1200 watt through for very long but if I had 2 then hook it up to 1200 watt amp I think ur solid.
not clamped power you didn't, your amp might say 1200 watts but the sub is not seeing 1200 watts
Surround quality and cone is kind of impressive. Good thickness and sewn in… I bought a one .. a single voice coil not dual.. a couple years back but just been sitting in spare cars trunk. Never really have played it.. but not bad with another power bass 12… around the same wattage but PA speaker looks built a little better from cone and surround.
It’s a pretty beefy little sub. I run a powerbass set up for a while and I enjoyed it. But I think there are better and cheaper brands than powerbass
The Gothics and mofos are actually pretty good. They will absolutely take 1200w, you have to understand how an amp works with music frequencies.
So in that demo your amp and that sub would play in the 2-7ohm range, it mighta seen 2k at a given point but prob averaged 500-1000watts.
You could run two of those off that bass 3K an bump it.
after that last song it started stinkin up. your right there is no way for me to see the watts without a meter
@@Zachecker it may have a break in smell but if ur smelling coil u are clipping cause these subs eat 1200 to 1500 RMS I had a smart on 2 and they slam
U have the sub box leaning on top ur amp ur gonna mess ur amp up from vibration.
@@joshholden8561 True i forgot to check my clip indicator.
@@joshholden8561 The sub is leaning on the amp but the vibration should not be enough to mess it up. I couldent really change it at the time bc i had to record when i could but next time ill put something to absorb the vibration.
Power acoustick subs are some of the best subs you can get for the price I have not owned a gothic yet but I have owned mofos before and I can tell you that they may not handle the 1200 w rms that it says in the box but they sure out power some of the top brands like kickers, pioneers and kenwoods I was running a 4000w planet Audio amp and had a lot of doubts if that cheap amp actually produced as much power as it said it did just like you
I was surprised to see it blow out a pair of kickers rated at 500w each at only 3/4 of its power and pair of pioneers also rated at 500w rms each at only half of its power I ended up getting a single 15in power acoustik with it’s crazy rating numbers and it handled the amp at 3/4 of volume and it produced some of the best bass I have heard in my life
I like the 1st gen Gothics better.....all black... Will take every bit of 1.5k rms...smell will wear off
I wanna try the first gen
Your box is half the size it’s supposed to be tho. Supposed to be 2.5 cubed. You have like 1 sq foot in that box. I have 2 in their own recommended 2.5 cubed boxes and it flexes my truck. I didn’t want to put them in the same box cause I like to move them around depending on what I’m doin and need, but it’s insane. The 2 boxes legit take up my whole ass crew cab and will vibrate your brain along with everything else. The vibration opened my tool box on the highway and I had to pull over so now I have a bike chain wrapped around it lmao
Enclosures are everything but that box is just for testing not SPL
Hell yea thanks! I was wondering why this box was so small I got side used ystrdy fur 60 bucks they played well but their in dual box comparable total size to this, I'll throw them in bigger 1 I have!
@@joshjones8335 for sure.
Gothics give a huge bang for your buck IF you put them in large boxes. Otherwise they will be ok at best
I think they raised the prices I went to Walmart few days ago and I always check the car audio for fun and it said 120$ maybe they put it in the wrong place 🤷♂️
Got 2 of them on an cadence 1600.1 @1ohm in a built box @34hrtz and ut shakes the car in front of me and has damn near popped my sunroof out
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Con amplificador boos phantom 2200 whats , esta bien? Segun yo lo mueve bien
I got 5 of these lol. 2 subs pair razor amp. The 5th one is a spare on standby. They hit just right but someone told me to run each sub on its own razor amp. Sounds like a good idea but the 2 batteries i have wont be enough for 4 of them wired separately
They will get loud 💪
Gotta admit this thing is very impressive i had that 2500 watt amp and it was not powerful enough to handle this subs capability at all i blew the amp with this thing had to get a much more powerful one been giving this thing absolute hell on some very hot days for hours at a time and its handling it like its nothing im probably pushing close to 3000 watts with no issues or loss in sound quality very impressive for this price
That box is junk!!! I had mine running on an rp2000 in a 5cf box it was actually hitting good. Yeah it got hot but I was running 1600 rms but it got down. If you had a better box it would hit...... the box is too small and tuned way too high...
Thank you for your concern the box is just a small demo box not for spl. And the sub did hit but it can not stay at 1200 rms for very long I blew it in a video not long after
@Zachecker yes but you can destroy any sub in the wrong box. That sub needs a box at least 2.3 cf. The one you have is half of that if not smaller and your turning is really bad. If you would have seen what it did in the box I build for my 15 you would be very surprised.
@@jamessalcido4667 thank you again but the box like I said isn’t meant for spl it’s a testing box that fits in my back seat so I can test and record without breaking my back every time I record. And I have done rms tests with other subwoofers in that box and it did great. The fact is the power acoustic is not on the level of those other subwoofers it is only a 2.5 inch coil that can handle at most a constant rms test tone of 750 watts. Thank you again for letting me know how bad my setup is for a cheap Walmart subwoofer that I had only for a video and not my main set up. I’m sorry that you feel I did that subwoofer an injustice. Maybe you should make a video all about it and send it to me and I’ll be the first to watch. 👍
Everyone be tripping. There is no need to” break in” a sub. They’ll break in as you use it and get louder.
I break mine in because I don’t use it very long so I want to loosen the spider so if hits harder on less power when I record
In order for this test to be legit you have to show real time rms power & clip indicator, at least!
I don’t have a watt meter. If you have a link to a cheaper one than feel free to leave it
@Zachecker all you need is a clamp meter, and a multi meter bro. Multiply the two numbers to get the power, divide the two numbers to get to ohms
@Zachecker But for sure, this is an expensive hobby. If you want things to be right you gotta spend the 💰
@74midwestbass74 I’m a full time student I don’t have that much the spare. Trust me I would if I could. Most my items on my channel are sent to me. But for sure I will when I get more 🤑
I have 2 of these with the 2500 watt amp that it recommends, and it slaps.
I have 2 of these also...With a 2400 watt Hifonics Amp..I haven't had any problems out of them, 2 yrs Strong SLAPPING HARD Everyday..No Smoking,No Smell..just A Great affordable Speaker That's Really 1000-1100 RMS Easily!
that 2500 watt amp is only giving them subs 300 wats a price maybe
daaaaaammmnn that shit slams
Treated me good my skar is a beast tho! I’m rebuilding them just waiting on my coils. No bullshit! Use Skar 2000watt amp
Yessir!
you run these on an rp-2000? i’m hearing mixed things about them being able to handle that amp.
@@almightylynxx914 its was on a 3k.
@@Zacheckerfor sure, my girl just blew one of her 12s on an rp-2000 so i was gonna check her wiring and pick up a couple of these for her.
@@almightylynxx914 2k is overpowering it the rms on that subwoofer is really 500-600 watts rms.
I have this sub hooked up to a kicker 300 bout to get a new deaf bonce 2100 AAP I hope it helps out for now till I need more #basshead 😂
dude it will be #basshead 🤣
I have 1200 skar and the subs hits 600 rms and the subs smells burn coil so i dont know if the sub have a issue or fsctory error.. oh snd the sub no cliping and notjing all ajust fine so for thr sub 2 stars haha
@@GordoYoshi only so much a cheap 2.5 coil can do
I ran 1 of these in my apartment at penn state and got a good bit of compliments lol
The box you used is way too small
I love destruction and calling manufacturers on their BS probably more than the next guy but, i really want to see it in a box thats at least close to correct for it and played at the common sense rms power, you can usually tell when it gets to its max rms, with experience you can make a good call, and just see what its capable of, ive been surprised by cheap subs before, the difference the correct enclosure makes is huge, a speaker that costs thousands will sound bad in the wrong box, but for the guys that can only manage some walmart equipment, some tunes are better than none i dont knock any system that someone at least tried to setup correctly, i dont care if they got subs from thrift store sound bars, if they tried and it is not just garbled clipped mess i always give respect.
im using 2 power akoustic gothics at 56v 1.3 ohm...... Zero issues its been 4 years their well worn in no smells. i have mine setup in isobaric config , tuned to 24 hz, i dont like how your video is clickbait. if you are going to say whats' that smell Pump all 3k from that smart 3 if you can, And make it break. they can do well past 1200w i promise. Their are guys where i live that made a wall using gothics and a 5k amp he did 4 subs to .8 ohm, And the other 4 to .8 ohm Then put them together for 1.6 ohm, and feeds almost 80 volts into it its good for burps and his poor dodge carravan hates it But to each their own.
sorry , i realised you already made a burn it out video. i spoke before looking but did watch it
Just curious, was the sub crossed over? Sounded like it was playing alot that it didnt need to.
I just broke it in but that’s it. It was brand new
@@Zachecker new or old the speaker is only mechanically designed to play a limited frequency range. Im just thinking that subjecting it to anything above 200hz probably wouldnt help it at all
@@almartinelli5054 yeah I’m not sure what the crossover is off the top of my head🤔
@@Zachecker the crossover is a setting on the amp that limits what frequencies get amplified and passed on to the subs. I am pretty sure the bass 3k has one built in to it. Large voicecoils are not efficient enough to play anything above low frequencies. Might be contributing to the smell
@@almartinelli5054 ohhh I have my lpf on lik 80 no subsonic
ive got two on a 5000 watt amp. and lwt me tell you
Watch my video of my blowing it on my 3k
@@Zacheckerit or Them??? What $79 speakers can handle a true 3000 watt amp..played to DESTROY The speaker 🤷🏿♂️🤣😂
@@BodyWeakDotNet frr
Called a warranty card so if any thing goes wrong they will replace it or give you your money back
Did you break it in or straight to text
Test
@@straightvaping4190 I broke it in I drove around for 2 hours playin 15-60 hz sweeps
Nice
i bought a sub of temu n that shit be shaking everything in my house
Decent
Check out my new vid it lasted longer than I thought
21 more likes till we can see it get smoked
I just ahead and smoked it. It’s posted
lmao please bro I got one an I couldn't blow mine with 6k
6k boss amp maybe
@@Shane454 LOL
This thing will blow i promise. what 6k u runnin?
@@Zachecker next box you build needs more port area
@@Shane454 true but this box is not meant for spl its just a box to test subs with. in a small area. But yea more port area is good for bass
Fun video. That cheap spider would not last a year, especially when it starts to clip like that. Lanzar, Pyle, Pyle Pro, Legacy
Epsilon Electronics: Power Acoustic, Precision Power, Farenheit, Soundstream, Kole, Pyramid on and on are all manufactured in the same factory, with the same components. Always spend the extra 100 dollars and get a pioneer D series or JL audio.
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Good subwoofer for the price
Agreed. I noted that at the end.
i have them on a 5k amp and takes it like nothing
What 5k do you have?
@@Zachecker taramps 5k
@@jameshawkins8140 what is your electrical
@@Zachecker I run 0 gauge to the amp and 4 gauge to the subs
on the next video shove a shirt in the port
lol okay🤣
Slapz
you think two of these could handle a rp-2000
you should not have any issues if you set gains correctly and absolutely 0 clipping. but honestly i promise if you spend a little more money but still budget get 2 american bass elites 160 a peice on amazon and they handle that 2k without any issues what so ever. i have them on a 5k
@@Zachecker i’ll try and convince her she really wasn’t looking to spend a crazy amount and i’ve been getting recommended these a lot, realistically two of these wired to 1ohm they’d only be getting around 1000rms each on that amp correct? i’m still new to this whole thing and trying to learn.
@@almightylynxx914 1 ohm should be 2000 2 ohms is prolly 1000 watts
@@Zachecker thanks for actually responding lmao. so having two subs doesn’t split the power output? if i have two wired to 1ohm their both getting the full 2000?
@@almightylynxx914 no they will be getting 2000 together but those subs can’t handle 1000 watts rms for very long. Power accoustik over rates their subwoofers. 2 subwoofers ide say are 1200 watts rms together
I love how you're so skeptical of something you have absolutely no idea about in the beginning. Not everyone can get what is considered a good quality sub right off of the bat not everyone has those means a job to get them or parents that give you an allowance to get them.
I was skeptical bc it was a ridiculous rating. I blew this subwoofer in a video to show that it isn’t the best for the money. Go with a Rockville k6 it’s cheaper and same rating. I got this sub to prove a point and it made a lot of people upset but the truth hurts
I’ve had this hooked up in a veloster and shook the hatch. And ran it on a 2500 watt amp and never blew it.
Cry harder, it's a junk sub that doesn't handle rated. A set of kicker cvr's will perform better. Lots of better options than junk power acoustic sht.
@@brianbevans6804 🙏 amen