HEAD TO HEAD - EVH 5150III 50 Stealth vs Omega Granophyre / Iridium

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  • @blackspine343
    @blackspine343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    the best Kyle on the internet.

  • @tomcantonati9741
    @tomcantonati9741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Man your amp demos are the only ones I start watching and watch all the way through. Raw and unprocessed the way it should be. Keep it up I love it! And yeah hands down the Omega for me.

  • @dinoaddin1702
    @dinoaddin1702 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video!
    My best 2 favourite amps!🤘

  • @DominiqueHeine
    @DominiqueHeine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I liked the 5150 III better. There was not a world of difference between the two (at least on the recording) and I think you could make the EVH sound even closer to the omega with a pedal or two.
    Also, I don't play über modern metal, so the evh probably caters more towards my preferences

  • @KHD00
    @KHD00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I discovered your channel a couple days ago and I really like your content. You seem like a genuine cool dude.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man! Appreciate you hanging out, and your name is tits.

  • @tonedover
    @tonedover ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kyle THANK YOU for making this one in particular :) i had a stealth and actually went back to the reg 6l6 and did some preamp tube rolling and a GE7 in the loop. The EVH 6L6 once properly adjusted stands with the super expensive amps out there in my humble opinion but at 50-60% of price.
    !!

  • @stevemoore6349
    @stevemoore6349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Quickly becoming my favs on the" all things chugg dept"
    Nice job kyle

  • @craigharrison5406
    @craigharrison5406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use an EQ pedal in the loop of my EVH stealth to add more low end. Works like a charm. Granophyre sounds amazing here but I can say firsthand that the Stealth is a beast of an amp aswell. The MXR 10 band EQ in the loop just allows you to shape the sound however you want as the EQ on the EVH is somewhat limiting.

  • @joshww2339
    @joshww2339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killing shit dude! Very stoked on this comparison.

  • @gregorysmith3794
    @gregorysmith3794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video Kyle! Awesome work. Both amps are absolute beasts. Really like your format. Gotta say, fine tuning the EVH will work better with the tone bone switched to the EVH 😆. Keep the raw authenticity flowing with the in the room sound.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was waiting for someone to call me out!! Hahaha. Yeah man, total lapse. I also forgot to include an intro clip of the Omega. Not my best offering lol. Thanks for hanging out man

    • @gregorysmith3794
      @gregorysmith3794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@belligerentamateur We still love you! Looking forward to the next.

    • @tonedover
      @tonedover ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belligerentamateur bro the fact that u arent a perfectionist contributes to me coming back to ur channel. U remind me a younger me, but with u having better chops and better recording skills lol

  • @SignificantTest
    @SignificantTest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! Been curious about both. Now to do the Obsidian vs the Granophyre if you can get your hands on an Obsidian.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be amazing, but highly improbable! Lol I will definitely see what I can do.

  • @Wedontdeservedogsbro
    @Wedontdeservedogsbro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A week out on my Granophyre!!!! This video put me there on the order

  • @metalgear4199
    @metalgear4199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Killer tones man 🤘🏼🔥

  • @NasserSharaf
    @NasserSharaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome shootout. I was actually surprised by how close they were on the lower gain channels, but ultimately the Omega just killed it for me. It does indeed have its own thing going and is very "specialized". I think it's destined to become a modern classic and one of the most coveted amps for anyone who can afford one . It's incredible - Now I REALLY I want one ! Thanks so much for this, great job man.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one on order! They're so good!

    • @NasserSharaf
      @NasserSharaf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belligerentamateur Congratulations ! I think I may pull the trigger on one of these too. But I'll probably go for the 50W head - 100W is insane :)

  • @ivanbailon7161
    @ivanbailon7161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great comparison of two of my favorite amps. But I prefer the EVH. In my opinion it is much more versatile. 🔝👌🏻

  • @Wedontdeservedogsbro
    @Wedontdeservedogsbro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I absolutely adore seeing that Tonebone I sold in these videos making the best comparisons on the internet. Glad it’s not sitting in a tote anymore. Anyhow that Granophyre slays that EVH

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's been an extremely useful tool, so thanks for selling it to me! Haha

    • @Wedontdeservedogsbro
      @Wedontdeservedogsbro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belligerentamateur I think your gonna blow up bro you have the perfect combination for these videos. Glad to be a early bird to witness it

  • @philliprobinson129
    @philliprobinson129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great demo. I dunno i thought the EVH sounded just as good if not better in most situations.

  • @ithebastardking2800
    @ithebastardking2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn they are WAY more close then expected.
    Only thing I would’ve liked to see was evh blue vs omega red.
    Anyway great video!

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I'm wishing I would have flipped back to the blue for a second, opportunity wasted! But in reality, I think the video shows these 2 stack up well against each other!

    • @ithebastardking2800
      @ithebastardking2800 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belligerentamateur for sure, no criticism.

  • @OTTOAUDIO
    @OTTOAUDIO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt Bull, I mean Kyle Damon... I mean ... dude keep up the good work your channel is 🔥🔥🔥

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some referred to me as "Thrash Matt Damon" I'm gonna shorten it to Thrash Damon and use it from now on. Sue me

  • @joshww2339
    @joshww2339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both are perfect , all preference.

  • @whiskeysoul89
    @whiskeysoul89 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Granophyre wins for the high gain🏆 although you nailed it on the evh being more of a forgiving amp and having a clean channel is kind of important.

  • @eddiefender100
    @eddiefender100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When you thought he was about monster energy and drywall holes, but in reality he was all about the tones.

  • @ronrubicon1593
    @ronrubicon1593 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kyle, have you ever played through a Randall V2 Archetype? I'd be curious to know what you thought of it, if you have. Honestly, I doubt you have as they're pretty hard to find.

  • @ruleinblood
    @ruleinblood 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both of these Amps are Absolutely killer !!! You can't beat a 5150 iii for tone and value and these Omega's sound bloody killer !!! Loving that LTD BTW Dude !!! Great video with no BULLSHIT !!!

  • @mattkemerait
    @mattkemerait 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been eyeballing these for almost a year. I'm very close to pulling the trigger after this video.

  • @DIVINECHAOS
    @DIVINECHAOS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey can you do a Dover vs EVH stealth?

  • @bigmike9527
    @bigmike9527 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I'm a subscriber and I love your channel but you have got to do something about the volume levels between when you are talking and playing.i have to stay right next to my audio system when watching your video because I have to turn up the volume when you're playing and then turn it WAAAAY down when you are talking because it will blow out my ear drums if I don't.it is extremely annoying.it wouldn't bother me if the music level was higher because I love to Rock out but it sounds like you are SCREAMING through the mic whenever you are talking .thumbs up as always bro and keep up the good work.i love your content and your channel is my new favorite.👍🤘🤘🔥🔥

  • @markpenney46
    @markpenney46 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    at 6mins he says, ok now we are going to the high gain channel !! lol. more metal ! love it man

  • @mmhutchinson
    @mmhutchinson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just subscribed! Have you heard the low mids on the EVH el34 50 o man. I owned a stealth 50 and had to trade it in for the el34 version.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I own the EL34 as well! Gotta say the stealth is still where it's at for me personally. I did the C137 mod on the EL34 though and it now sounds much better on the blue channel to my ears.

  • @GPaulTheThrashKing
    @GPaulTheThrashKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The High Gain channel isn't really a "channel" from what i've read. It's either a built in boost or an extra gain stage (basically the same thing?). It'd almost make more sense IMHO to compare boosted blue channel on the 5150 to the unboosted Omega with the high gain switch on.
    Will update once I get my Granophyre in.

  • @m1blazer2
    @m1blazer2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got me really thinking in the stealth. Not crazy about the blue channel on my 6l6 50. Need to hear the cleans more on stealth.

    • @MaestroJericho
      @MaestroJericho 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah I have the el34 50 and Kruse Kontrol is semi-local, was really thinking about doing a Stealth conversion.

  • @xiwiwix
    @xiwiwix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh, man Granophyre hands down. The clarity while maintaining it's brutality. I was hoping I wouldn't like it because of the price. haha Great video, bud! Looking forward to Multiwatt x Granophyre , should be rad!

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks man! Gotta get the Omega back from my buddy some time next week for that one, but I'm excited for it!

  • @mannyfragoza9652
    @mannyfragoza9652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The EVH is like you said the frequencies are more or less equaled out. The Omega has a more pronounced low end.The EVH def held its own considering the price difference.

  • @mikeflanders1292
    @mikeflanders1292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Omega sounds stiff. I think I'd get along pretty good with it. I like amps that make you work for it. Kinda like my deliverance 120, it's not very forgiving but it will reward you when you clean up your playing

    • @iLLuzion1st
      @iLLuzion1st 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stiff and dry like a martini

  • @dwhyte6697
    @dwhyte6697 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m Curious to how the 5150 el34 50w compares to the stealth 50w on the red channel. Is there a big difference? I know the blue channel is quite abit different.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll be doing some 5150 shootouts next week, I own all 3 of the 50 watt EVH models. The Red channel across the 3 amps is VERY similar. Very little variance.

  • @nokomisnichols
    @nokomisnichols 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m gonna have to buy the omega graniphyre and the stealth. I already got the EVH 5153 6l6 50 watt version. Should I buy the stealth because I already have the EVH 5153 6l6 version? Kyle Bull

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly I'd say no, if money is an issue. The original 6L6 is VERY close to the stealth, and the Blue channel sounds killer. Save the money and just grab an Omega and you'll be set!

  • @gibson381
    @gibson381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does the Omega your playing in this vid have 6L6’s? Sounds beastly!

  • @ShredShed
    @ShredShed 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both sounds good, but If i had to choose one I'd pick the omega

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      REALLY tough for me to choose, and would boil down to the situation, but god damn the high gain setting on the Omega is bliss.

  • @barrygomez5968
    @barrygomez5968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The omega low gain boosted just sounded so much more pissed and metal for some reason to my ears compared to the Evh blue lol

  • @TheToecutter69
    @TheToecutter69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great comparison, Omega sounds better IMO. For the price and my sloppy playing I’d go with the EVH 👍🏼
    🤘🏼🤘🏼

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At the end of the video I was REALLY digging the OMEGA. Great fucking amp man.

  • @SaberToothGary
    @SaberToothGary 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    100 watts vs 50 watts... that's the real contest here. Cool vid tho, I dig both amps! BIG tone!

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I personally think people put way too much stock in the amount of tone difference between 50 and 100 watts. Slight bit of headroom/compression and low end, mostly at higher volumes. Not a drastic difference.

  • @markpenney46
    @markpenney46 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    would you call the omega harsh in any way with v30s! example i struggle with my jvm through v30s as the mids just destroy my ears.
    cheers.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly, yes. It can get a little harsh with how pushed the upper mids are and can be sensitive to dial in. However, you can find the sweet spot with a little work, and it sounds killer.

  • @mikedervos5974
    @mikedervos5974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Evh is more focus ,i understand the notes a bit better,try dial the resonance controll in the back to have even more massive sound

  • @DaveElwoodCutter
    @DaveElwoodCutter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Man the Omega is a beast. Hadn’t seen any good quality videos on these amps. It’s modern and tight but fat and brutal and not as djenty as most modern high gain amps.
    Have you checked out the Dover DA-50? Was blown away by it. Similar territory but more of a British voicing.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's an absolute monster. I've been loving having it around!

  • @journeymanbryan154
    @journeymanbryan154 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Kyle what are your thoughts on the EVH cabinet? Have you tried any of them? If so how do they rank with Mesa cabs?

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Bryan! I had one for a little while. It was very dark, and overall, didn't love the EVH speakers for what I do. I'd love to get another and load it with V30's and try that. Build quality was fantastic, would stand up next to a Mesa in that regard, but again, tonally very dark.

    • @massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002
      @massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I dwell in the Darkness haha

    • @300WINMAG360
      @300WINMAG360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have had an EVH, Orange, and Mesa Traditional 4x12's and the EVH was definitely my least favorite.

  • @XChristianNoirX
    @XChristianNoirX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool.. You're kinda comparing a 50 watt and 100 what amp though.
    I see the red channel on the 5150 as an actual lead channel.. The compression makes it swell for leads.
    On the 5150, I also like the presence up half a notch. Don't forget the resonance control on the back too.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Omega is a 50 watt amp as well.

    • @XChristianNoirX
      @XChristianNoirX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belligerentamateur oh cool. I though they were all 100's. Thought 100 might make the low-end bigger.. Which tends to happen.

    • @XChristianNoirX
      @XChristianNoirX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belligerentamateur another thing about the presence knob on the Stealth... It works a bit differently than the presence on my block letter... As do the eq controls overall. On the block, the presence and other controls affect the particular frequency more directly, where with the Stealth, the controls seem to morph other parts of the frequency race a bit.
      But yeah.. On that red channel, I see it used almost exclusively as a solo channel. The compression makes solos a bit liquid sounding. I've played more with that in the 100 watt though. Since I've gotten the 50s, I've been mostly on the blue channel.. I only really switch to the red channel when trying different pedals out to see if it sounds better.
      I'm mostly a rhythm player/songwriter, so the blue is the most useful to me. I'd almost be better off with a second blue channel with or without some very minor tweaks.
      The clean channel is vastly improved over the 100s, but it's still missing a little bit as far as being great for a pedal platform. Supposedly the REV amps work better for that.

  • @lucwilson1
    @lucwilson1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you set resonance to on the back of the EVH?

  • @cynicanal111
    @cynicanal111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'll be the contrarian here, and say I liked the EVH more. Too much "quack" in the Omega, the more "even" midrange sounds much better to my ears.

    • @cbsaulren
      @cbsaulren 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude I can say first hand the EVH 5153 50S absolutely kills!

    • @craigharrison5406
      @craigharrison5406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just got a 50 watt stealth and it's a beast. TBH the blue channel needs a boost in front of it but the red channel....OMG there's more gain on tap than any amp I've ever played. The red channel actually sounds better all on it's own without a boost. It's the only amp I've ever played where unboosted sounds better on the lead channel. If you put an 7 or 10 band EQ in the loop you can get the EVH to sound just like that Granophyre easily.

  • @ehoc42
    @ehoc42 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The EVH likes your Badass OD more

  • @sweetstrawberry1995
    @sweetstrawberry1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer the EVH. But if you want to go super modern the Omega is probably the way to go. A 1 to 1 comparison between them makes the EVH sound like an Orange Rockerverb compared to a 5150 if you catch my drift.

  • @AngryTonesRiffClips
    @AngryTonesRiffClips 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omega for the win! Well... in my opinion of course. 🤘

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man I'm almost on your side it this point. The high gain setting with the boost at the end was like HHHNNNGGGGG

  • @SidSub
    @SidSub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice man, of all your amps, what is your #1

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tought call, 5150 Stealth or Splawn Quick Rod

    • @SidSub
      @SidSub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belligerentamateur man i was hoping you'd say that!! those are probably 2 of my fav demos of yours. Would love to see those 2 in a shootout(i know they are drastically different) but might be fun. Also REVV Generator mk3!!! I cannot get enough of that amp's demos. It sounds like the evolution of the 5150.

  • @metalgear4199
    @metalgear4199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your guitar. What pickups are you using?

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man!
      Vineham Granite Alnico V in the bridge on this bad boy! Look them up, small builder from Canada~!

    • @metalgear4199
      @metalgear4199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@belligerentamateur is this an ebony fretboard?

  • @jcmoore5819
    @jcmoore5819 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m going Omega here. Not super common at the moment. Seems like everyone is still on the 5150/5150II/5153 kick. Both have a good sound but the Granophyre takes the win for me.

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just got my new Granophyre, and yes, it's unique, and fully nasty! Lol

  • @szveszs
    @szveszs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    honestly I prefer the EVH, the Omega is good for super low tuning guitar, and the EVH for music at all maybe.

  • @austineldridge6361
    @austineldridge6361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let’s go!!!

  • @affiliatedx3
    @affiliatedx3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ever play a fender pro sonic?

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Briefly but didn't really get to spend much time messing with it

  • @o-meg-a6043
    @o-meg-a6043 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMEGA!

  • @guitarwilly81
    @guitarwilly81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Metal Matt Damon

  • @paulvaden6990
    @paulvaden6990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    EVH !

  • @Rooster7six
    @Rooster7six 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it’s like my wife, a bigger but tighter bottom end 🤣🤣🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @Aboveitall905
    @Aboveitall905 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do ya like dem apples

  • @These_go_to_eleven_1959
    @These_go_to_eleven_1959 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm? which one???
    OMEGA=$2800 for just the head
    EVH Stealth 50= $1500 for the head < I think i will go 5150 and a 4x12 cab ! 😁

  • @stephenchow5161
    @stephenchow5161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dover time...........da50 please

    • @belligerentamateur
      @belligerentamateur  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As soon as Axe Palace gets them in, I'm getting on ordered!

  • @jessemuscato
    @jessemuscato 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahahahaha you just spilled the beans on half of the metal community. the evh is easier to play. bahahah.

  • @marktunes77
    @marktunes77 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    blue channel doesn't have enough gain