2022 gets dust/mud/debris in the interior of the rear bumper and causes the "Toyota Safety Sense" to fail. No fix yet from Toyota. If you live in a dry area you may not experience the failure quickly, but debris/mud will eventually disable the RCTA and BSM sensors. I live in Helena, Montana, and can't get my sensors to last more than three weeks.
I’ve had a 2021 platinum for the last 7 month and there are no creaks at all. It’s nice and quiet and ride is very comfortable. I do Al lot of inner city driving and get about 30mpg
Our 22 broke down twice now with the battery draining issues. Toyota had to disable our trunk and door sensors until a new software program is ready!! This week our third row seat came apart. Only 3000 Kms and we are ready to trade it in. We wish we didn’t trade in our 2018 Sienna.
I do not own a sienna or any hybrid vehicle yet, but is it supposed to be silent when remote starting the car? Because hybrid do not rev on start.. right?
NO CREEK AND NO NOISE AT ALL.. I DONT KNOE WHAT THE HELL HIS TALKING ABOUT… I GOT A LIMITED TRIM AND ITS WAYYYY BETTER THAN A SUV… IN 2023 ITS MORE STYLIST COMFY
I think the hybrid is great, but I would have preferred a v6 hybrid option. I don't know that would have translated to better performance, but I can only assume so. Even if it cost 5 mpg I think it would be worth it.
@@Alwaysbeclosing1774 we still love it. Have a 2022 Rav4 hybrid now also but the Sienna is much more comfortable. Still getting about 38 mpg in the Sienna. I coast whenever possible, coast to stops when possible, and don't do quick starts. And it loves traffic on the highway because it can also coast and regenerate. We use the radar controlled speed control a lot but there are times when it isn't convenient.
Aw, they put that big fish-mouth grill on the front, like Lexus and other companies have been doing. What is that supposed to be, intimidating? Also, having the machine shut off when opening the door (when you've remote-started) is supposed to keep someone from jumping into a running car and stealing it. My Dodge mini-van has stow-and-go type seats so you don't have to haul them out and stow them. My 2008 Toyota Sienna has the very back seats as stow-and-go type. Is that a big scratch on the left side? It seems to be very encumbered by technology.
That 2nd row is why we got our 2011. My hubby is 6'8 and our growing son is tall as well, so being able to scoot that 2nd row back a good ways, helps give him much needed leg room. We're wanting to upgrade just for aesthetics, I like the newer body style. Thank you for this vid!
How is the wind noise on the 2022 Sienna XSE. Took it to the dealer and had Toyota field representative take a look, they couldn't do much. Wondering if this is design issue ?
I’m not sold at all if creaks. That would bug me A LOT. The Subaru Ascent or Toyota Highlander Hybrid are the ones we will Consider. I really wanted Hybrid for better MPG. Thanks!
I never get the purpose of remote start. Unless you are actually close to the vehicle you can't use it. Any remote start should give you extra range key fob so you could have it running heating/AC.
I have the base model 2022 sienna. The only things I really like above any other van is the gas mileage and how far the seats slide and recline. I dislike almost everything else. I really miss my 2019 Chrysler Pacifica. Almost everything about that van I feel is better than the sienna. The gas mileage wasn’t that far off the hybrid anyway. I get frustrated using my van every time I have to use it now. It takes forever to respond and so clunky to move the seats for kids to get in and out. I don’t feel it works well for moms with a lot of kids who are little. Maybe when the kids are older and can adjust the seats the way an adult can. Also, I really don’t like that you can’t lock the doors while it’s running. If I forgot something inside and my kids are already buckled I can’t make sure they are safe
you can try to roll driver window down. shut door. lock door from outside. auto up window and get your arm out of the way. works on other Toyotas. Make sure you have your key as the wireless unlock will not work. You will have to open with manual key.
Do you have any proof that they will void your entire warranty if you disconnect the connector? Shops need to do this all the time. You can also put a 1kHz resistor in the line. They sell these online
Nice review, but have you ever experienced driving the 3.5 V6? If you have not, you can not compare acceleration and power. I very much doubt that the 20% reduction in HP will match the V6. ALSO, you get very excited about the 3rd row seats and the ease o folding them down. Well, again, you have no experience with the older models, because it is EXACTLY THE SAME mechanism !!!!
Yes I have driven the 3.5 V6..across multiple Toyota and Lexus models. My complaint isn’t that the hybrid is underpowered…it’s that it’s the ONLY option. The V6 is reliable, very low maintenance, and what a lot of people desire. I know the 3rd row is just like before, it’s still awesome that it folds so easily. The king slide second row seats are similar too…those are still great.
A few comments. I have an 8 seater XLE. To get an 8 seater I had to forgo the AWD option. The only way to get AWD and 8 seats is on the base model. I can't figure out why they don't offer 8 seat and AWD in higher trims. I would have been happy to spend more on my car if they would only offer it in such a trim. A second problem is that the power outlets in the 3rd row are only on the right side. Why couldn't they also add the same thing on the left? Took a car on a road trim and had kids fighting for them in the 3rd row. It probably doesn't cost much to have these outlets on both sides instead of just one.
I have seen that in '24 the H.P will increase to 306, we'll see soon enough, that increase will be in the plug in one though, higher end one, most expensive model.
As I am owner of 2021 Sienna, I recommend people who need minivan for ones children to purchase LE trim having 8 seats. I bought a XLE for 7seats, regret my choice. Because, 7seat car is not enough and suitable to change a diaper and lord baby’s belonging due to using 3 row seat. I have 2 infants who are seat second row, and they needs parents supervision. So my wife seats third row.
Just can’t take the ugly reflector headlights! Even the corolla has standard projector highlights nowadays! Who the f u c k chose the ugly reflector highlights for sienna?!
My 2017 Sienna Se with 40K also goes through a phase of noise gremlins which I think emanate from the sliding doors otherwise it is relatively quiet. In contrast, my old beater, a 2004 Honda Odyssey with 150K never rattles from the doors except for road noise through poor insulation. The 2.5-liter engine Hybrid combo is excellent in the Rav4 but just Adequate in the Sienna. The 3.5 engine has good power with the 8-speed tranny. People who opt for the New Hybrid Sienna should warm up the engine, especially in the winter because condensation can occur in the oil pan, which causes the oil to get milky. This will only happen if you drive very short distances on a regular basis otherwise it's not an issue, but checking your oil often can help mitigate any problems that can arise from short engine running intervals.
I have an 04 and would like something newer but they've gone electric. I know they think we'll all fall in line but I'm not interested. Ill keep the 04.
I still have my 07 for the same reason. Just came back from a 3k km road trip through the mountains with 7 passengers fully packed and I still had decent power to pass slower cars going up long steep hills.
I have no idea how that foot waving works but I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’d never work right for me. I feel like Gravel/dust/salt would make it a short lived feature.
Fully agreed with you here. Our vehicles have this feature and we have never really used it. You have to be physically close enough to the vehicle to make this work, so if your hands are so occupied that you can't even press the FOB or the door/trunk button, how would you be able to get close and kick your foot below the designated area? Trying to get this to working during night time or special weather condition is even more fun. I just use the FOB or the physical button as I'm approaching the vehicle.
Uglification of the cars is what Toyota and Lexus do best. Look at the chicken wire look of Lexus or ugly 4runners that looks like the Predator alien without the helmet.
I make these videos for buyers. I love a V6, dependable and tried and true..plenty of power. Obviously hybrid efficiency is great…a big pro. But I make these videos so buyers know there’s no V6 option and lots of people would rather have that. I also make a note about the efficiency because that’s also excellent. If it was me, I’d still take a V6 but it’s worth mentioning the efficiency of the hybrid
@@PrimeAutotainment My niece has the Hybrid in up state NY with lots of hills and mountains. She says that power is not a problem. She is still getting 38 mpg.
I am the owner of 2021 XLE AWD 7 seats. Fuel consumption is 32mpg. In my modal there’s no spare tire that’s not good. There is only one 12V lighter socket in front that’s not enough. One should also be in the trunk area. Toyota app doesn’t show the tire’s pressure correct. As I moved from RAV4 hybrid to Sienna Hybrid, I feel RAV4 brakes were better.
Completely glosses over the lack of any disc players. Unusable entertainment center without non Toyota equipment. Also, the BS of spare tire. AWD? spare tire...no ottomans...
Nice Video! i see your 3rd seat locking is broken too, only after 1 week! there is a class action going on for this matter, saerch Lemberg Law. lets get all together to fix this right!
The remote start is true. For the 2020 rav4, it’s the same thing. Why does Toyota make these cars turn off when someone goes in to the vehicle?! It’s annoying.
Hate that huge console! Takes all your comfort leg stretch out. Especially if you are s person of size. Put shifter on dash and open front space. Toyota has always been the best and I have owned many but they are trying to run the customers off I just don't understand why you would take all the moon out of that and they've done the same thing with the great big trucks that great big people need to buy for comfort. They need to realize that the USA is full of people that are the size of sumo wrestlers!
I also despise that monstrosity! Stretching out in the front seat is the thing I do most in my car -- second only to driving. Certainly can't do that now. Plus, the console gives me a feeling of claustrophobia, an unacceptable loss of freedom. The inability to remove the back seats is also a major reason to not buy the new era Sienna. Scratching my head bald trying to figure out that major design flaw. To my mind, too much of the new car design is technology-driven, resulting in a loss of simplicity. Very disappointed with the new Sienna!!
The 2nd row captains chairs only on the nicer models really pisses me off! I want a loaded car that will carry 8 passengers when I need too. For that reason alone, the Sienna is out.
For the remote start, you have to get it to beep 3 times not just push the button 3 times. Agree it should be one and the same. Not only is it a pain to use, shuts off when you unlock the door or open the door but the range to use the key fob remote is very short making its usability further limited. I would still buy it and any Toyota despite these annoyances as I consider them the best made vehicles currently available.
Shut off when you unlock the car is a safety feature. So nobody runs away with it after you unlock it Since the engine doesn’t a noice people would forget the car is on and leave to go back inside the house to grab something.
Also the remote start can be done through the toyota app. No matter how far you are( nullifying the short range concern). And yes the shut off is safety feature
My remote starter in my 2020 corolla LE is an aftermarket and I can start it from the basement and it will run for 15 minutes before it shuts off. However if I get there before 15 minutes is up and since my vehicle has the key ignition and if I put the foot on the brake then it will turn off..
Ok this is a severe engineering vehicle so first the car turns on without the engine cuz its a hybrid does that make sense, second the engine only starts when the battery is low, 3rd remote start is used for one purpose to cool and heat the car so given the fact that a hybrid doesn't need the engine to do that that is even cooler hope this helps
3 x Sienna owner here who just switched to the 2022 Honda Odyssey. I like Toyota but the 4 banger killed the sell for me. That V6 was sweet and they neutered it.
My son and his wife are leaning towards the Sienna. They have a two year old daughter and twin boys coming in July. The need a vehicle that can carry three carseats.
I was debating between the 2021 Pacifica plugin hybrid and the 2021 Sienna last year. After testdrove both, I chose the Pacifica simply due to livability; low NVH, comfortable ride front and back, better seat padding/leather, Bluetooth Android Auto, more tolerable engine noise, when comparing Limited to Limited trim. The Sienna just has its 2nd row going for me and completely loses out the 3rd row to the Pacifica as it rides harsher and has halved the window size/natural lights.
@@ChasOnErie I dumped a 2011 Durango at a loss because it was absolutely destroying my wallet. Bought a used Prius V. It's been 2 years. The gas saving alone have made up for the loses alone. I keep getting drawn in by the plug in Pacifica, but after that Durango....I just can't. Next vehicle will be a Sienna.
From Toyota: Using the key fob to remote start a Remote Connect equipped Toyota: Press the LOCK button on the remote. Press the LOCK button a second time within 1 second. Press the LOCK button again, this time holding it for 3 seconds. The vehicle will start. If you do it this way, faster, slower, or whatever…the remote start still sucks. I’ve driven tons of Toyotas and done it correctly and the remote start still sucks. That’s the point
Thanks for the video, once you remove the second row.......does it go flat with the 3rd row. I'm interested to know if we can use the back for sleep on the road sometimes.
@3:00 Um...bro....the auto turn off when you open the door from the auto start function in general is actually a GOOD thing, because if your daughter was to go into the front seat of your van without you there?!? Trust me, you want the van to turn off....Not to mention to deter theft, if someone was to just wait for you to auto start so they can just jump in and do whatever to your vehicle?! Come on bro....practical scenarios across the board are addressed with this function...not just for YOUR subjective desires.
You’re not aware of how remote start systems work…take any other brand that doesn’t shut off when the door opens…first of all they are locked…2nd, if someone actually gets in they have a couple of things in okay…either they will shut off if someone tries to shift or they will shut off if someone tries to shift. You can’t just get in and drive when they are on from remote start. I appreciate your concern but Toyota does not need to shut the whole vehicle off the instant it unlocks…not to mention it only unlocks with the key fob…not from someone opening the LOCKED door
I HATE that when you get a AWD XSE, the wheels are silver and not the nice dark color of the FWD version. I don't care if the wheels are smaller, it's an XSE and they should be dark regardless.
I think the XSE needs to get 20” no matter it’s FWD or AWD. It’s just awkward to see the sporty styling but then the tiny wheels. Toyota should get a motor that can handle couple more lbs of the 20” wheels, if that’s really the reason the AWD can only get 18” wheels.
Lots of negativity in this Video , we purchased a 2022 black on black and we are more than pleased . 3/4 way through the video the gentleman making the video mentions his wife likes her van. So i presume if what he said is true him and his wife own one.. my advice to him. walk or buy a Chrysler..
Not being negative. I do these pro/con videos on all different brands. Congrats on your 2020. I believe the 2020 models and older (previous generation) are nicer overall than these new ones.
While I agree that the 3.5 V6 and the 6 speed or 8 speed was legendary as far as reliability, Toyota has very much stepped up it's hybrid game starting since about 2010-2012. The first and second gen Prius were a testing ground and they learned relatively quick what needed changing. The batteries are over provisioned and cooled well, they've learned from past inverters what not to do, so now they have heat parameters that keep the system out of red zones, the hybrid transaxle is almost bulletproof, and the engine is still a naturally aspirated large displacement 4 cylinder. Only time will tell how it holds up, but given their observable effort to improve their hybrid powertrain, the only added maintenance item will be to replace the hybrid battery about 200k to 300k down the road.
That 2nd row limits is the reason why we'll go with the Kia minivan. But we'd go with every other brand a week because they all have easy to remove 2nd row
The squeaking comes from the 2nd and third row seats. I fold the third row down into the floor and that stops a lot of the squeaks. For the rest of the squeaks toyota provides a button on the dashboard called vol. Just turn that dial to the right until the squeaks go away :)
I have actually seen some tests. It seems to work pretty well. Its really for low speed traction. Driving on snow or a gravel road (watched a guy do donuts in a snowy parking lot, lol). It's not a sports car or off roader. Kinda is the same functional purpose as subaru awd on a outback (anything but the sti doesn't have a center diff, so its fwd only when its really needed).
I always liked Odyssey better than Sienna before. But, 36 mpg is killing Odessey totally in this crazy gaslise price. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to buy one these days. Dealers are all greedy to add $$$ on top of MSRP and we have to wait for it.
Just got a 2021 with 8500 miles on it for 39k at the dealership. Its the XLE, full leather with a 2nd row bench but the middle seat is removable to make it captain chairs, the Sienna is the smoothest ride I’ve had & I’ve owned probably 15-20 vehicles! You can find em out there
As does every other vehicle, just not once you open the door or unlock it. Other brands will shut the vehicle off if you try to shift, push on the brake, etc. so they don’t require you to restart it or have the air completely shut off every time you get in
I chose Toyotas because of their vault-like quietness. I’ve experienced this in mostly Camrys of various years. Excuse the gripes in the following post. Enter the 2021 Sienna. Holy sh!t this thing is noisy. Hard plastic on hard plastic, great job. Middle seat squeak - Some have it, some miraculously don’t. I have it in one seat (driver) and not the other. Sounds like a rat gnawing on metal as I drive. I posted about this before, tried to fix, same result. Sprayed some dry lube to the linkage and taped the wires. Still squeaks. Pulling the rear latch loop quiets it down. I’m about to tie a string from the loop to the mid back hook to keep a tension on it. Then I found it might be the child seat hooks between the seat bottom and back making that noise. Anyone have instructions on how to take the seat apart (not out of the car or the bottom plastic cover)? I want to do some further checks but have no idea how the seat comes apart. Front driver side suspension boot - Ye ol boat noise, like i’m sailing the seas when I backup. No fix yet. This should happen on cars GM makes, not Toyota, but yeah they share suppliers. Door seals - Another version of Ye ol boat noise. I have a steep driveway and whenever I drive up from a turn, the entire chassis flexes. BTW, Great chassis, Toyota. The TNGA is stiff. Right. The Sienna rides like a truck, ever ride in the back? Front soft, back stiff, yet that rear cannot hold a tow. Anyway, all door seals need to be lubed. I got a lube made specifically for door seal lubes, claims German cars need it, and so far it has quiet it down, till the next wash or it dries. And someone found with the OBD tool that Toyota feeds engine noise through the speakers. Just awesome.
Compared with similarly priced sedans and SUVs, vans have the worst NVH, the worst ride experience, and therefore the worst sales. Its only advantage is interior space, but installing the stiff suspension completely destroys it. The ride is just like a P.O.S!
Thank you for your comment! Another reason why I won't go for the Sienna. It's really a shame. We love our 2011 Sienna. Maybe we just keep it around until the non nonsense ol' reliable V6 gives up.
I think they made a mistake already having so many different variants. Near impossible to find the version and options you want with the low supply. And agree they should have made them all look good like the xse style.
Great mention of how slow the hybrid is without the venerable 2GR V6 engine. I’ve owned four Siennas with 2GR engine , including the AWD SE and they were downright quick. Yes, the hybrid gets great city mileage, but it’s still a tortoise compared to the 2GR Siennas and the Honda Odyssey.
I have an Odyssey it feels quicker than my CRV because of the V6. Certainly don't "need" it, but it's comforting to have when the van is packed to the brim and entering the highway.
Anyone watching TH-cam only has first world problems. Get real…this video is for people who are going to pony up $40k for a minivan…of course they are first world problems! That doesn’t mean people willing to spend that money shouldn’t be informed of little annoying things…
1) I’ve heard people with fwd getting 40+ mpg but barely hitting 35 with awd? 2) no dvd or blu ray player?! What’s the point?! 3) moon stone seats look the coolest but only available on stiff xse? 4) can it drive itself on the highway? 5) lack of skylights on high end models makes the interior feel dark 6) cool leg room and ottoman but how much do 2nd and 3rd rows recline?
I don’t like the fact you can’t remove the second row seat. The car looks smaller than the older version. It has less power and torque. It looks kinda ugly with the gaping mouth look that Toyota and Lexus has adopted. I still love my 2013 Toyota Sienna. It looks much nice and is larger and I can remove the entire 2nd row seat thus lightening the car drastically.
2022 gets dust/mud/debris in the interior of the rear bumper and causes the "Toyota Safety Sense" to fail. No fix yet from Toyota. If you live in a dry area you may not experience the failure quickly, but debris/mud will eventually disable the RCTA and BSM sensors. I live in Helena, Montana, and can't get my sensors to last more than three weeks.
I’ve had a 2021 platinum for the last 7 month and there are no creaks at all. It’s nice and quiet and ride is very comfortable. I do Al lot of inner city driving and get about 30mpg
I have a 2011 seinna v6. 160,000 miles on it. It’s my casual outdoor adventure utility vehicle. Im keeping it to its very end. I love the damn thing.
Checking in at 186k miles. Me too
Our 22 broke down twice now with the battery draining issues. Toyota had to disable our trunk and door sensors until a new software
program is ready!! This week our third row seat came apart. Only 3000 Kms and we are ready to trade it in. We wish we didn’t trade in our 2018 Sienna.
I do not own a sienna or any hybrid vehicle yet, but is it supposed to be silent when remote starting the car? Because hybrid do not rev on start.. right?
I love my 2008 Sienna XLE Limited AWD Quality way better than the newer ones.
From listening to your dislikes I didn't even finish the video 😏
Thats one of the best reviews i have seen. Short but to the point and explains the point
NO CREEK AND NO NOISE AT ALL.. I DONT KNOE WHAT THE HELL HIS TALKING ABOUT… I GOT A LIMITED TRIM AND ITS WAYYYY BETTER THAN A SUV…
IN 2023 ITS MORE STYLIST COMFY
You can't want the old V6 engine and at the same time want 36 miles per gallon. It doesn't work that way now. It's either one or the other.
Hate the new dash and consel on the new van, I'll stick to my 2017
LOL okkkk
I'll stick with my fully loaded 2008
Lol funny guy
I think the hybrid is great, but I would have preferred a v6 hybrid option. I don't know that would have translated to better performance, but I can only assume so. Even if it cost 5 mpg I think it would be worth it.
That was exactly how I felt when I test drove it. Poor initial performance
We've had ours for 6 months and have averaged over 38 mpg.
Do you like it still? I'm debating getting this or the pacifica. Tough choices.
@@Alwaysbeclosing1774 we still love it. Have a 2022 Rav4 hybrid now also but the Sienna is much more comfortable. Still getting about 38 mpg in the Sienna. I coast whenever possible, coast to stops when possible, and don't do quick starts. And it loves traffic on the highway because it can also coast and regenerate. We use the radar controlled speed control a lot but there are times when it isn't convenient.
@@Alwaysbeclosing1774 no it’s not Chrysler unreliability vs Toyota reliability
Although the aerodynamics on the Pacifica is lovely
I got my 2006 v6 190k miles still works great
Thank you for sharing the dislikes first! I agree about the creaks. Sounds like you're driving a big box around.
Driving a 2006 with 225,000 miles on it will give you the same experience
Aw, they put that big fish-mouth grill on the front, like Lexus and other companies have been doing. What is that supposed to be, intimidating? Also, having the machine shut off when opening the door (when you've remote-started) is supposed to keep someone from jumping into a running car and stealing it. My Dodge mini-van has stow-and-go type seats so you don't have to haul them out and stow them. My 2008 Toyota Sienna has the very back seats as stow-and-go type. Is that a big scratch on the left side? It seems to be very encumbered by technology.
Personally I like the woodland edition over the other trims
kudos to Toyota for hybrid-only powertrains. With towing capability also, not available on Pacifica hybrid.
Kudos for what? Try towing something with 5 people inside as well and see how it does. You’d have to hammer it way too much.
@@Matthew-ip6xl thanks for sharing your opinion
That 2nd row is why we got our 2011. My hubby is 6'8 and our growing son is tall as well, so being able to scoot that 2nd row back a good ways, helps give him much needed leg room. We're wanting to upgrade just for aesthetics, I like the newer body style. Thank you for this vid!
How is the wind noise on the 2022 Sienna XSE. Took it to the dealer and had Toyota field representative take a look, they couldn't do much. Wondering if this is design issue ?
The laminated glass is only available on Limited and Platinum trims I think.
I’m not sold at all if creaks. That would bug me A LOT. The Subaru Ascent or Toyota Highlander Hybrid are the ones we will Consider. I really wanted Hybrid for better MPG. Thanks!
And it’s $40,000+!!
@@ms4687 yeah.. NO.
I may wait for the new VW Bus EV
Excellent review. I have a 2012 AWD Limited, 215000 miles
I never get the purpose of remote start. Unless you are actually close to the vehicle you can't use it.
Any remote start should give you extra range key fob so you could have it running heating/AC.
I have the base model 2022 sienna. The only things I really like above any other van is the gas mileage and how far the seats slide and recline. I dislike almost everything else. I really miss my 2019 Chrysler Pacifica. Almost everything about that van I feel is better than the sienna. The gas mileage wasn’t that far off the hybrid anyway. I get frustrated using my van every time I have to use it now. It takes forever to respond and so clunky to move the seats for kids to get in and out. I don’t feel it works well for moms with a lot of kids who are little. Maybe when the kids are older and can adjust the seats the way an adult can.
Also, I really don’t like that you can’t lock the doors while it’s running. If I forgot something inside and my kids are already buckled I can’t make sure they are safe
you can try to roll driver window down. shut door. lock door from outside. auto up window and get your arm out of the way. works on other Toyotas. Make sure you have your key as the wireless unlock will not work. You will have to open with manual key.
use the Toyota app for the remote start... and you gotta make sure the lights flash with each click of the button. the keys are annoying.
Toyota will void your entire warranty if you remove the second row. I will not buy a new one, its a deal breaker for ne.
Do you have any proof that they will void your entire warranty if you disconnect the connector? Shops need to do this all the time. You can also put a 1kHz resistor in the line. They sell these online
Legit did a triple take before realizing you were driving by my former elementary school, nebbie williams
Nice review, but have you ever experienced driving the 3.5 V6? If you have not, you can not compare acceleration and power. I very much doubt that the 20% reduction in HP will match the V6. ALSO, you get very excited about the 3rd row seats and the ease o folding them down. Well, again, you have no experience with the older models, because it is EXACTLY THE SAME mechanism !!!!
Yes I have driven the 3.5 V6..across multiple Toyota and Lexus models.
My complaint isn’t that the hybrid is underpowered…it’s that it’s the ONLY option. The V6 is reliable, very low maintenance, and what a lot of people desire.
I know the 3rd row is just like before, it’s still awesome that it folds so easily. The king slide second row seats are similar too…those are still great.
A few comments. I have an 8 seater XLE. To get an 8 seater I had to forgo the AWD option. The only way to get AWD and 8 seats is on the base model. I can't figure out why they don't offer 8 seat and AWD in higher trims. I would have been happy to spend more on my car if they would only offer it in such a trim. A second problem is that the power outlets in the 3rd row are only on the right side. Why couldn't they also add the same thing on the left? Took a car on a road trim and had kids fighting for them in the 3rd row. It probably doesn't cost much to have these outlets on both sides instead of just one.
I agree. They need to make higher trim 8 seaters.
I have seen that in '24 the H.P will increase to 306, we'll see soon enough, that
increase will be in the plug in one though, higher end one, most expensive model.
Why toyota dont sell this car in ksa
As I am owner of 2021 Sienna, I recommend people who need minivan for ones children to purchase LE trim having 8 seats. I bought a XLE for 7seats, regret my choice. Because, 7seat car is not enough and suitable to change a diaper and lord baby’s belonging due to using 3 row seat. I have 2 infants who are seat second row, and they needs parents supervision. So my wife seats third row.
Having a bench seat for diaper-changing is a great idea. And I used to sit in the back when my babies were little too.
@@pechaa Thank you for your comments.
I’m leaning toward the odyssey because of the magic sliding seats. I feel it loading the third infant into the back would he easier.
Yeah but tech goodies are only available to xse tech and limited.
Thanks for sharieng
Just can’t take the ugly reflector headlights! Even the corolla has standard projector highlights nowadays! Who the f u c k chose the ugly reflector highlights for sienna?!
No thanks to that lethargic stressed out 4 cylinder pretender. There's no replacement for displacement.
I actually own one. It’s neither lethargic or stressed out.
My 2017 Sienna Se with 40K also goes through a phase of noise gremlins which I think emanate from the sliding doors otherwise it is relatively quiet. In contrast, my old beater, a 2004 Honda Odyssey with 150K never rattles from the doors except for road noise through poor insulation. The 2.5-liter engine Hybrid combo is excellent in the Rav4 but just Adequate in the Sienna. The 3.5 engine has good power with the 8-speed tranny. People who opt for the New Hybrid Sienna should warm up the engine, especially in the winter because condensation can occur in the oil pan, which causes the oil to get milky. This will only happen if you drive very short distances on a regular basis otherwise it's not an issue, but checking your oil often can help mitigate any problems that can arise from short engine running intervals.
I have an 04 and would like something newer but they've gone electric. I know they think we'll all fall in line but I'm not interested. Ill keep the 04.
I still have my 07 for the same reason. Just came back from a 3k km road trip through the mountains with 7 passengers fully packed and I still had decent power to pass slower cars going up long steep hills.
I have no idea how that foot waving works but I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’d never work right for me. I feel like Gravel/dust/salt would make it a short lived feature.
Fully agreed with you here. Our vehicles have this feature and we have never really used it. You have to be physically close enough to the vehicle to make this work, so if your hands are so occupied that you can't even press the FOB or the door/trunk button, how would you be able to get close and kick your foot below the designated area? Trying to get this to working during night time or special weather condition is even more fun. I just use the FOB or the physical button as I'm approaching the vehicle.
I am a huge Camry and sienna van fan and the 2022 is very disappointing
What I don't like? The big "megamouth shark" front grill!
Uglification of the cars is what Toyota and Lexus do best. Look at the chicken wire look of Lexus or ugly 4runners that looks like the Predator alien without the helmet.
aw man. i love it i think looks really cool.
Is it impossible to remove the 2nd and 3rd row seats in a 2023?
Not impossible but the airbag light is going to be on because of the airbag connectors.
You complain about not having V6, but you like the gas efficiency of the Hybrid system
I make these videos for buyers. I love a V6, dependable and tried and true..plenty of power. Obviously hybrid efficiency is great…a big pro. But I make these videos so buyers know there’s no V6 option and lots of people would rather have that. I also make a note about the efficiency because that’s also excellent. If it was me, I’d still take a V6 but it’s worth mentioning the efficiency of the hybrid
@@PrimeAutotainment My niece has the Hybrid in up state NY with lots of hills and mountains. She says that power is not a problem. She is still getting 38 mpg.
I am the owner of 2021 XLE AWD 7 seats. Fuel consumption is 32mpg. In my modal there’s no spare tire that’s not good. There is only one 12V lighter socket in front that’s not enough. One should also be in the trunk area. Toyota app doesn’t show the tire’s pressure correct. As I moved from RAV4 hybrid to Sienna Hybrid, I feel RAV4 brakes were better.
Completely glosses over the lack of any disc players. Unusable entertainment center without non Toyota equipment. Also, the BS of spare tire. AWD? spare tire...no ottomans...
Nice Video!
i see your 3rd seat locking is broken too, only after 1 week!
there is a class action going on for this matter, saerch Lemberg Law. lets get all together to fix this right!
Not surprising everyone advertisers against Toyota but at end Toyota is the best no matter what u say
The remote start is true. For the 2020 rav4, it’s the same thing. Why does Toyota make these cars turn off when someone goes in to the vehicle?! It’s annoying.
Hate that huge console! Takes all your comfort leg stretch out. Especially if you are s person of size. Put shifter on dash and open front space. Toyota has always been the best and I have owned many but they are trying to run the customers off I just don't understand why you would take all the moon out of that and they've done the same thing with the great big trucks that great big people need to buy for comfort. They need to realize that the USA is full of people that are the size of sumo wrestlers!
I also despise that monstrosity! Stretching out in the front seat is the thing I do most in my car -- second only to driving. Certainly can't do that now. Plus, the console gives me a feeling of claustrophobia, an unacceptable loss of freedom. The inability to remove the back seats is also a major reason to not buy the new era Sienna. Scratching my head bald trying to figure out that major design flaw.
To my mind, too much of the new car design is technology-driven, resulting in a loss of simplicity. Very disappointed with the new Sienna!!
The 2nd row captains chairs only on the nicer models really pisses me off! I want a loaded car that will carry 8 passengers when I need too. For that reason alone, the Sienna is out.
For the remote start, you have to get it to beep 3 times not just push the button 3 times. Agree it should be one and the same. Not only is it a pain to use, shuts off when you unlock the door or open the door but the range to use the key fob remote is very short making its usability further limited. I would still buy it and any Toyota despite these annoyances as I consider them the best made vehicles currently available.
But that is still ridiculous as hell.
Shut off when you unlock the car is a safety feature. So nobody runs away with it after you unlock it Since the engine doesn’t a noice people would forget the car is on and leave to go back inside the house to grab something.
Also the remote start can be done through the toyota app. No matter how far you are( nullifying the short range concern). And yes the shut off is safety feature
My remote starter in my 2020 corolla LE is an aftermarket and I can start it from the basement and it will run for 15 minutes before it shuts off. However if I get there before 15 minutes is up and since my vehicle has the key ignition and if I put the foot on the brake then it will turn off..
Ok this is a severe engineering vehicle so first the car turns on without the engine cuz its a hybrid does that make sense, second the engine only starts when the battery is low, 3rd remote start is used for one purpose to cool and heat the car so given the fact that a hybrid doesn't need the engine to do that that is even cooler hope this helps
You're next to the SUV version of that van 1:30.
Can't get AWD anymore on the XLE.
Unfortunately most people aren’t even going to be able to afford gas at this point so it’s better going with the hybrid
Agreed, worst remote start in the automotive world.
V6 …..you can keep your green new deal…..this getting ridiculous
Yeah I’m really bummed they dropped the V6
3 x Sienna owner here who just switched to the 2022 Honda Odyssey. I like Toyota but the 4 banger killed the sell for me. That V6 was sweet and they neutered it.
Little do y’all know the sienna has become the #1 minivan because of the hybrid power train!
@@jxmar_ yeah it’s a huge selling point for many people, I just wish we had that AND the V6 still available
@@PrimeAutotainment yeah it was kinda too bold of Toyota to drop the V6 but I guess they know what they’re doing..
All I see is forcing customers to buy Hybrid. I was thinking to get one. But not thanks. Thanks for the video. It wake me up.
My son and his wife are leaning towards the Sienna. They have a two year old daughter and twin boys coming in July. The need a vehicle that can carry three carseats.
My dislikes are the $40k to $55k price, 7-8 seating, bulky center console, low body and clearance, bucket none-removable seats.
How do you leave out Apple carplay or Android auto. ? That alone discourages people from purchasing a Toyota product
It has both on every trim
Hybrid for me boi
Good: mpg
Bad: Price
I was debating between the 2021 Pacifica plugin hybrid and the 2021 Sienna last year. After testdrove both, I chose the Pacifica simply due to livability; low NVH, comfortable ride front and back, better seat padding/leather, Bluetooth Android Auto, more tolerable engine noise, when comparing Limited to Limited trim.
The Sienna just has its 2nd row going for me and completely loses out the 3rd row to the Pacifica as it rides harsher and has halved the window size/natural lights.
Pacifica ... gone in 3 years ... my 2006 seinna ... just as tight as it was 168,000 miles ago ... 16 years old and still feels "new"..
@@ChasOnErie I dumped a 2011 Durango at a loss because it was absolutely destroying my wallet. Bought a used Prius V. It's been 2 years. The gas saving alone have made up for the loses alone. I keep getting drawn in by the plug in Pacifica, but after that Durango....I just can't. Next vehicle will be a Sienna.
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 stay away from the new ones they are total junk. Buy up to around 2017 after that the Toyotas are total junk
@@thunderroad7289 Even the new Hybrids? With a warranty?
What about Chrysler Reliability and Longevity. Toyota are much better and also good resale
this guy didn't even press it three time correctly,, then complain about it. LOL
From Toyota: Using the key fob to remote start a Remote Connect equipped Toyota:
Press the LOCK button on the remote.
Press the LOCK button a second time within 1 second.
Press the LOCK button again, this time holding it for 3 seconds. The vehicle will start.
If you do it this way, faster, slower, or whatever…the remote start still sucks. I’ve driven tons of Toyotas and done it correctly and the remote start still sucks. That’s the point
Can toyota at least gives a v6 as an option? Please Toyota because Honda will eat your cake
Thanks for the video, once you remove the second row.......does it go flat with the 3rd row. I'm interested to know if we can use the back for sleep on the road sometimes.
The base model comes with 2 captains chairs plus a middle seat that you can take out when you don’t need it. All models have captains chairs.
Sound like you cant really find negatif point for your video and put what ever you can 😂😂😂
@3:00 Um...bro....the auto turn off when you open the door from the auto start function in general is actually a GOOD thing, because if your daughter was to go into the front seat of your van without you there?!? Trust me, you want the van to turn off....Not to mention to deter theft, if someone was to just wait for you to auto start so they can just jump in and do whatever to your vehicle?! Come on bro....practical scenarios across the board are addressed with this function...not just for YOUR subjective desires.
You’re not aware of how remote start systems work…take any other brand that doesn’t shut off when the door opens…first of all they are locked…2nd, if someone actually gets in they have a couple of things in okay…either they will shut off if someone tries to shift or they will shut off if someone tries to shift.
You can’t just get in and drive when they are on from remote start.
I appreciate your concern but Toyota does not need to shut the whole vehicle off the instant it unlocks…not to mention it only unlocks with the key fob…not from someone opening the LOCKED door
Whats bullshit about the electric start is the stress youre going to put on the AC compressor. They do not like short cycling off on.
I HATE that when you get a AWD XSE, the wheels are silver and not the nice dark color of the FWD version. I don't care if the wheels are smaller, it's an XSE and they should be dark regardless.
I think the XSE needs to get 20” no matter it’s FWD or AWD. It’s just awkward to see the sporty styling but then the tiny wheels. Toyota should get a motor that can handle couple more lbs of the 20” wheels, if that’s really the reason the AWD can only get 18” wheels.
Lots of negativity in this Video , we purchased a 2022 black on black and we are more than pleased .
3/4 way through the video the gentleman making the video mentions his wife likes her van.
So i presume if what he said is true him and his wife own one.. my advice to him. walk or buy a Chrysler..
Not being negative. I do these pro/con videos on all different brands.
Congrats on your 2020. I believe the 2020 models and older (previous generation) are nicer overall than these new ones.
I will never buy anything that is not hybrid or electric ever again.
I’d rather have the V-6
While I agree that the 3.5 V6 and the 6 speed or 8 speed was legendary as far as reliability, Toyota has very much stepped up it's hybrid game starting since about 2010-2012. The first and second gen Prius were a testing ground and they learned relatively quick what needed changing. The batteries are over provisioned and cooled well, they've learned from past inverters what not to do, so now they have heat parameters that keep the system out of red zones, the hybrid transaxle is almost bulletproof, and the engine is still a naturally aspirated large displacement 4 cylinder. Only time will tell how it holds up, but given their observable effort to improve their hybrid powertrain, the only added maintenance item will be to replace the hybrid battery about 200k to 300k down the road.
We don't like hybrids, too noisy/drones. Give us the v6 back
It's a practical & efficient minivan for a growing family
My daughter & her family loves it
That 2nd row limits is the reason why we'll go with the Kia minivan. But we'd go with every other brand a week because they all have easy to remove 2nd row
You wont get past 150k miles
@@rxa177 considering they have passed all other cars for dependability, I'll take my chances
You lost me at "asterick"
I like the relaxed presentations of the review.
1x(10/9/22)…done excellent thank you
The squeaking comes from the 2nd and third row seats. I fold the third row down into the floor and that stops a lot of the squeaks. For the rest of the squeaks toyota provides a button on the dashboard called vol. Just turn that dial to the right until the squeaks go away :)
a squeaking car is disgusting. period.
When they put a oversized Prius power train in a Sienna then add a 5HP pony rear motor to make it "AWD"... you know shit is about to go down.
I have actually seen some tests. It seems to work pretty well. Its really for low speed traction. Driving on snow or a gravel road (watched a guy do donuts in a snowy parking lot, lol).
It's not a sports car or off roader. Kinda is the same functional purpose as subaru awd on a outback (anything but the sti doesn't have a center diff, so its fwd only when its really needed).
2:48 remember it’s a hybrid so you won’t hear the engine as soon as you start it up
Yes sometimes it turns on right away and sometimes it doesn’t. It’s still slow to respond if it actually does lol
Isn’t there a phone app?
Hybrid 36mpg is very nice…🌝
The ugliest van and cars on the market!!!!!
I hate that it shuts off. Pisses me off
Mr toyota company in japan
Please we want this car in ksa
I always liked Odyssey better than Sienna before. But, 36 mpg is killing Odessey totally in this crazy gaslise price. Unfortunately, it is very difficult to buy one these days. Dealers are all greedy to add $$$ on top of MSRP and we have to wait for it.
Just got a 2021 with 8500 miles on it for 39k at the dealership. Its the XLE, full leather with a 2nd row bench but the middle seat is removable to make it captain chairs, the Sienna is the smoothest ride I’ve had & I’ve owned probably 15-20 vehicles! You can find em out there
@@mjbruno1581 Lucky you. That is a great deal. I wished I could find one like yours.
Awesome
And you can ear 👂 tayars spine sound inside
Huge review!
In Lithuanian siena literally means wall
How cool :)
Someone tries to steal your car when it's on w/remote start they can't because it turns off.
As does every other vehicle, just not once you open the door or unlock it.
Other brands will shut the vehicle off if you try to shift, push on the brake, etc.
so they don’t require you to restart it or have the air completely shut off every time you get in
I chose Toyotas because of their vault-like quietness. I’ve experienced this in mostly Camrys of various years.
Excuse the gripes in the following post.
Enter the 2021 Sienna. Holy sh!t this thing is noisy. Hard plastic on hard plastic, great job.
Middle seat squeak - Some have it, some miraculously don’t. I have it in one seat (driver) and not the other. Sounds like a rat gnawing on metal as I drive. I posted about this before, tried to fix, same result. Sprayed some dry lube to the linkage and taped the wires. Still squeaks. Pulling the rear latch loop quiets it down. I’m about to tie a string from the loop to the mid back hook to keep a tension on it. Then I found it might be the child seat hooks between the seat bottom and back making that noise. Anyone have instructions on how to take the seat apart (not out of the car or the bottom plastic cover)? I want to do some further checks but have no idea how the seat comes apart.
Front driver side suspension boot - Ye ol boat noise, like i’m sailing the seas when I backup. No fix yet. This should happen on cars GM makes, not Toyota, but yeah they share suppliers.
Door seals - Another version of Ye ol boat noise. I have a steep driveway and whenever I drive up from a turn, the entire chassis flexes. BTW, Great chassis, Toyota. The TNGA is stiff. Right. The Sienna rides like a truck, ever ride in the back? Front soft, back stiff, yet that rear cannot hold a tow. Anyway, all door seals need to be lubed. I got a lube made specifically for door seal lubes, claims German cars need it, and so far it has quiet it down, till the next wash or it dries.
And someone found with the OBD tool that Toyota feeds engine noise through the speakers. Just awesome.
Compared with similarly priced sedans and SUVs, vans have the worst NVH, the worst ride experience, and therefore the worst sales. Its only advantage is interior space, but installing the stiff suspension completely destroys it. The ride is just like a P.O.S!
Thank you for your comment! Another reason why I won't go for the Sienna. It's really a shame. We love our 2011 Sienna. Maybe we just keep it around until the non nonsense ol' reliable V6 gives up.
@@alexstrebel1829 09 Highlander here. You keep changing the oil and that car will just go until it rusts. Good luck.
@Michael True. It's paid off, and the scratches don't matter anymore.
I think they made a mistake already having so many different variants. Near impossible to find the version and options you want with the low supply. And agree they should have made them all look good like the xse style.
Can you roll down the back passenger windows
Great mention of how slow the hybrid is without the venerable 2GR V6 engine. I’ve owned four Siennas with 2GR engine , including the AWD SE and they were downright quick. Yes, the hybrid gets great city mileage, but it’s still a tortoise compared to the 2GR Siennas and the Honda Odyssey.
Nobody gets a minivan to feel like they are racing.
@@JT-bb4lq Well then, my name is Nobody.
I want the best gas mileage in a mini van!
Most of the time they need the speed is because they are late for school or soccer practice..
I have an Odyssey it feels quicker than my CRV because of the V6. Certainly don't "need" it, but it's comforting to have when the van is packed to the brim and entering the highway.
Backup camera is horrible.
All i heard was complaining about first world problems
Anyone watching TH-cam only has first world problems. Get real…this video is for people who are going to pony up $40k for a minivan…of course they are first world problems!
That doesn’t mean people willing to spend that money shouldn’t be informed of little annoying things…
1) I’ve heard people with fwd getting 40+ mpg but barely hitting 35 with awd?
2) no dvd or blu ray player?! What’s the point?!
3) moon stone seats look the coolest but only available on stiff xse?
4) can it drive itself on the highway?
5) lack of skylights on high end models makes the interior feel dark
6) cool leg room and ottoman but how much do 2nd and 3rd rows recline?
I don’t like the fact you can’t remove the second row seat. The car looks smaller than the older version. It has less power and torque. It looks kinda ugly with the gaping mouth look that Toyota and Lexus has adopted. I still love my 2013 Toyota Sienna. It looks much nice and is larger and I can remove the entire 2nd row seat thus lightening the car drastically.