"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls, and ask the ghosts if honor matters", "Silence will be your answer" chilling truth in that statement. Loved it.
And the funny smirk he gets when he says it. I love javik. What's so cool I think is that having him in you're party regularly gives you at times insight into what his time was like. As you play he says certain things that gives you a little insight. I just think that was an interesting thought they put into the character the little tid bits.
@@709mash you all like Mass Effect Legendary Edition we are now adding new DLCs for each Mass Effect game and each one will cost $20 each. Then everyone shovels up $60-$100.
Compared to the cycle we play in, the Protheans weren't defeated swiftly! They hung on for decades (if not centuries!), while the Reapers culled world after world, but were slowed down by Protheans fighting back!
In our defense, our cycle hadn’t even properly unified. The Protheans had the advantage of completely inviting their galaxy, but ours was not until the very end, and even then only barely.
No mention of the fact that the Protheans were responsible for the major delay in the Reapers return by sabotaging the signal that controlled the keepers ?
Very nice breakdown of the Mass Effect story. You did miss one thing that is vitally important about the Reapers. By giving us (organic life) the Mass Relays it enabled them to control our path technologically. This ensures they know how to counter any defensive measures a species may try against them....
And since the mass relays where the technological breakthrought for every single race in the galaxy, it also guaranteed the Reapers something to harvest every 50,000 years lol
I wonder if they'll be a decision to explore a Mass Effect spin-off during the Prothean cycle, fleshing out the possibilities we've learnt so far to be fleshed out and give us further insight to the races of that cycle? Or if they leave it as it is; thinking that would defeat the purpose of the cycle of extinction leaving so little evidence behind that it'd weaken the mysteries of the galaxy? Either way, the Prothean empire sounds interesting in how it evolved and died.
Yes, yes Gamespot, YES. that Legendary edition is coming in hot. AND i just got my PS5 so whatever benefits they are planning for that machine will impact my first time through. I consider the Mass Effect Trilogy the pinnacle of my gaming experience. Second only to Witcher 3. So good.
I always thought that the Protheans were loosely based on the Eldar from Warhammer 40k. A toweringly arrogant ancient race forced into an alliance of convenience with "primitives" due to their near extinction. The way Javik describes himself as the Avatar of Vengeance makes the title sound very similar to a Phoenix Lord, or at the very least an Exarch. Also, I'm pretty sure that there were at least a few 40k fans at Bioware while they were making the Mass Effect series, given that the Krogan have a gas giant in their system called Vaul, and there's literally a system called "Dakka."
I’ve only ever played the legendary edition, and I cannot even begin to imagine the story without Javik. Considering his race had been discussed in triplicate for the two previous games AND he was basically Isaac Clarke’d into another cyclic extinction, how they saw fit for him to be a DLC character is beyond me
I never like the whole "this is why they lost" every species in countless cycles lose because the citadel period. No structure no way of mixing up strategies nothing would of helped protheans win after reapers came through the Citadel unannounced.
Yep exactly, cut off the Citadel + Cutting off Mass Relays + Cutting Communication = Guaranteed Win. The protheans were definitely the smartest of all the lost civilizations, figuring out the Citadel was the key to invasion and giving the next civilization a chance of victory.
Sentiments differ. Some say, the statues were originally meant to represent protheans. This is evident from comparing Shepard's prothean visions from ME1 and ME2. In ME2 version there is collector pasted in the vision. As the final design for the protheans went on, the statues on Ilos are now known as the former race Inusannon. Other ppl say, they were never meant to represent protheans, which I personally doubt. But the lore went on to state them as Inusannon. According to ME Wiki: "In Mass Effect 3, the Prothean Javik reveals that Ilos was once inhabited by the extinct Inusannon before the Protheans discovered the world and colonized it themselves." Meaning they discovered their statues.
I wish there was a dlc where there is a survivor Collector who survived the collector explosion/radiation explosion and be named Glitch because it was a defective collector from the others and have unique abilities and dialogue be with Javik and tell him all about the Collectors and what they did
"Reaper, a label created by the Protheans to give voice to their destruction. In the end what they chose to call us is irrelevant, we simply are." Love, Sovereign
I think it’s because they all work on “mass effect” technology, and “Mass Relay” is just the shorthand term, whereas “Mass Effect Relays” is the more technical term. Their FTL tech works on mass effect technology, but as a shorthand we just call it FTL because that makes sense.
The game that have the same trope about Super Entities or God like creature: - Isu/First Civilization/Precursor Race -> Assassin's Creed - Prothean Race -> Mass Effect - Extinction Entity -> Death Stranding - Artificial Intelligence (i forgot the name) -> Horizon Zero Dawn - ...(add another)
There’d be loads such as Bloodborne for example because it’s very lovecraftian. Although not to be that guy but the protheans turned out to be pretty normal if not over glorified because aside from being slave masters they just got lucky and happened to build on empire on the ruins of other civilisations before them. The Reapers or the ones who made them are probably more of the trope you’re looking for.
Love the video but I wouldn't exactly say that the protheans demise was swift, as far as I know that battle against the protheans lasted centuries so it was quite a while before they were actually defeated
Here is my question what if it took the humans 100 years to activate their relay would the reapers go after humans in this cycle or would they have 50,000 years to prepare for the next cycle?
Likely as their information would not been in the citadel records and the alliance a.i would not be installed in human ships, the only reason they would check up on earth was prothean records.
Didn't the Prothean war against the Reapers last centuries? That's hardly swift. The events of ME3 take place over a few months and the Asari, Turean, etc all seem to be getting their collective butts kicked worse than the Protheans in that time frame.
They don't wipe out advanced life. Just those who invent ftl travel. The Asari technically should have been wiped out with the Protheans but the Protheans gate kept the ftl tech from them to use them as a cheat code in the next cycle.
Sorry but the Protheans retook the Citadel, moved it and discovered the Crucible plans from a species called the Rackfili. Citation please because that's isn't anywhere in the lore.
You’ve got to collect the fathers memories nodes. They really go into the back story that leads into the events of andromeda. Really made it better for me. Brought that nostalgic feeling back
In ME 1 and 2 I had such a different perception on my mind of what the protheans would be, culture-wise. They ended up being total jerks. Well done Bioware.
Mass Effect 1 Protheans: Mysterious, intriguing, and nearly mystical beings. Shows flashes of scenes that hint on how they look like and how otherworldly they look like. ME3: COMMANDA SHEPPAD!
Exactly. I didnt even play me3 when i saw that. Plus in me1 they were cthulu looking aliens, which made sense for the lore since the reapers looked like the heads of the me1 promethians.
If the Protheans beat the Reapers, when would they have colonized humans? I have a feeling 20th and 21st century humans would be useless to them, prior to humans discovering Mass Effect technology.
Spoiler disclaimer would be appreciated (for the new fans), but definitely looking forward to more. Would love to see a review of the soundtrack to all three. I saw a collection of vinyl once, all multicolored to differentiate each record to each game. Quite exquisite package. 👀
"Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls, and ask the ghosts if honor matters", "Silence will be your answer" chilling truth in that statement. Loved it.
Javik was WAY too important to be a DLC. He added so much to the game and EA treated him like he was another Zaeed.
Javik talking about Salarians: "They used to eat flies"
And "lick their eyes"
"all these primitives flying spaceships is very dangerous "
Protheans are just as stated: civilized. As such, I send them my best regards, welcome to Earth.
How goes the IO joint-military project
And the funny smirk he gets when he says it. I love javik. What's so cool I think is that having him in you're party regularly gives you at times insight into what his time was like. As you play he says certain things that gives you a little insight. I just think that was an interesting thought they put into the character the little tid bits.
you missed the part where the protheans reprogramed the caretakers on the citadel so they would ignore the reaper call.
Never forget EA and BioWare put Javik the Prothy into a paid DLC at launch.
As I've always said FUCK EA
Why are we not forgetting about this or pretending someone somewhere could possibly give half a fuck tho
The amount of relevance this has now is non existent.
All the dlc is added into legendary edition very naturally. It makes up for it big time.
@@709mash you all like Mass Effect Legendary Edition we are now adding new DLCs for each Mass Effect game and each one will cost $20 each.
Then everyone shovels up $60-$100.
Best Javick quote “What this cycle lacks in aim they make up for in ammo”
Which is quite hilarious considering he was shooting at the wall before he said that.
id love a Mass effect video series like this, telling us about the different races.
There's a whole channel dedicated to it. It's Minius GC
@@cecarter10 nice one, must check that out, thanks. 👍🏻
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Compared to the cycle we play in, the Protheans weren't defeated swiftly! They hung on for decades (if not centuries!), while the Reapers culled world after world, but were slowed down by Protheans fighting back!
In our defense, our cycle hadn’t even properly unified. The Protheans had the advantage of completely inviting their galaxy, but ours was not until the very end, and even then only barely.
No mention of the fact that the Protheans were responsible for the major delay in the Reapers return by sabotaging the signal that controlled the keepers ?
Let sleeping dogs lie buddy, dont incite war.
Very nice breakdown of the Mass Effect story. You did miss one thing that is vitally important about the Reapers. By giving us (organic life) the Mass Relays it enabled them to control our path technologically. This ensures they know how to counter any defensive measures a species may try against them....
Facts!
Not really? Like, that's a bit of fanon that has been perpetuated.
And since the mass relays where the technological breakthrought for every single race in the galaxy, it also guaranteed the Reapers something to harvest every 50,000 years lol
I still can’t believe Javik was DLC 🤦🏾
Thank you for that. I was watching this scratching my head wondering why I didn't remember Javik.
I can, it's EA
Yarrrrr
Kasumi was DLC too. So was Zaeed - technically.
ME3 released too much that should have been base game as DLC. Some made sense, but like Leviathan and Javik were two that should have been base game
The statues we meet on Ilos in ME1 were originally supposed to be the Protheans, but had to retract the lore when they made the Collectors
Maybe but they did it well and it fits the overall idea if building on dead civilizations
@@45heisman Would have been cool to see other dead alien races
I wonder if they'll be a decision to explore a Mass Effect spin-off during the Prothean cycle, fleshing out the possibilities we've learnt so far to be fleshed out and give us further insight to the races of that cycle? Or if they leave it as it is; thinking that would defeat the purpose of the cycle of extinction leaving so little evidence behind that it'd weaken the mysteries of the galaxy? Either way, the Prothean empire sounds interesting in how it evolved and died.
There's no Mass Effect without Shepard
And there's no Shepard without Vakarian
vakarian god damn it
@@TheKurtkapan34 beleza, já corrigi! 👍
I was originally hoping the protheans would look even more alien than they did.
Welcome Home my friend.
The lore of Mass Effect is amazing. I would love some kind of mod in Stellaris that you could introduce your own created species into the mix.
Yes, yes Gamespot, YES. that Legendary edition is coming in hot. AND i just got my PS5 so whatever benefits they are planning for that machine will impact my first time through. I consider the Mass Effect Trilogy the pinnacle of my gaming experience. Second only to Witcher 3. So good.
I always thought that the Protheans were loosely based on the Eldar from Warhammer 40k. A toweringly arrogant ancient race forced into an alliance of convenience with "primitives" due to their near extinction. The way Javik describes himself as the Avatar of Vengeance makes the title sound very similar to a Phoenix Lord, or at the very least an Exarch.
Also, I'm pretty sure that there were at least a few 40k fans at Bioware while they were making the Mass Effect series, given that the Krogan have a gas giant in their system called Vaul, and there's literally a system called "Dakka."
I gotta say gamespot has really been stepping up their content lately
Agreed
Now this is a series I can get behind
Beaten the trilogy over 20 times. IS MY FAVORITE GAME OF ALL TIME.. Me: Did he saying sum about spoilers??
I’ve only ever played the legendary edition, and I cannot even begin to imagine the story without Javik.
Considering his race had been discussed in triplicate for the two previous games AND he was basically Isaac Clarke’d into another cyclic extinction, how they saw fit for him to be a DLC character is beyond me
I never like the whole "this is why they lost" every species in countless cycles lose because the citadel period. No structure no way of mixing up strategies nothing would of helped protheans win after reapers came through the Citadel unannounced.
Yep exactly, cut off the Citadel + Cutting off Mass Relays + Cutting Communication = Guaranteed Win. The protheans were definitely the smartest of all the lost civilizations, figuring out the Citadel was the key to invasion and giving the next civilization a chance of victory.
I mean, the Protheans having a single doctrine throughout the entire Galaxy certainly didn't help.
The Protheans looked more alien in their ME1 statues. Must of changed design between games.
Sentiments differ.
Some say, the statues were originally meant to represent protheans. This is evident from comparing Shepard's prothean visions from ME1 and ME2. In ME2 version there is collector pasted in the vision.
As the final design for the protheans went on, the statues on Ilos are now known as the former race Inusannon.
Other ppl say, they were never meant to represent protheans, which I personally doubt. But the lore went on to state them as Inusannon.
According to ME Wiki:
"In Mass Effect 3, the Prothean Javik reveals that Ilos was once inhabited by the extinct Inusannon before the Protheans discovered the world and colonized it themselves." Meaning they discovered their statues.
They also did the same with Human Reaper, initially a giant human robot, then become the Husk.
I definitely DON'T recommend anyone who hasn't played the mass effect trilogy before to watch this video. HUGE spoilers here.
I wish there was a dlc where there is a survivor Collector who survived the collector explosion/radiation explosion and be named Glitch because it was a defective collector from the others and have unique abilities and dialogue be with Javik and tell him all about the Collectors and what they did
"Reaper, a label created by the Protheans to give voice to their destruction. In the end what they chose to call us is irrelevant, we simply are."
Love,
Sovereign
Finally some mass effect lore.
Trusted travellers in the Joint-High Counsul. ✌️
i love Mass Effect
They could easily have their own trilogy.
Love this lore video. Waiting for more.
I always thought Reapers to Protheans was like Nomad to Dom'Kavash.
Freelancer reference. I see you are a man/lady of culture.
Crazy to think the Protheans were just another in a long line of advanced species harvested by the Reapers
Gimme more lore !
Thank you for this. Please continue making these videos.
Remember when EA gated the promethean squad mate behind a paywall after selling you a new $60 game?
Behind DLC ?
never forget
Yeah. I do. All that FREE dlc for the multiplayer though... 👀
Didn't it come out quite some time later?
If it did, Jake, I never played it cause I skipped ME3 out of spite :-/
Why does everyone call them "Mass Effect Relays" aren't they just called "Mass Relays". Mass Effect is the just how FTL works.
I think it’s because they all work on “mass effect” technology, and “Mass Relay” is just the shorthand term, whereas “Mass Effect Relays” is the more technical term. Their FTL tech works on mass effect technology, but as a shorthand we just call it FTL because that makes sense.
@@benjamindavis3899 mass relays generate a mass effect field but I don't think they're called mass effect relays anywhere in canon 😅
Interesting. I’ll have to do some more digging in the codex!
I can't find any mention of 'Rakfeeli' from any official sources, just a fan wiki.
all this lore, mystery and secrecy
and EA made him a paid day one DLC
Mystery sells
The reapers were just trying to clear pops so the game doesn't lag too much and cause the player to restart a new galaxy.
My favorite one it's a side conversation where he says Garrus is a good sniper imagine what he would be with four eyes
✌️ the place to be buddy.
Damn this an awesome video. Also loved the bgm and dude your voice is cool too.
Thanks for this video Tamoor. I can out wait to jump back in to ME
My guy you sound like a belter from the expanse and I've never been happier
In my cycle Bioware made good games.
The game that have the same trope about Super Entities or God like creature:
- Isu/First Civilization/Precursor Race -> Assassin's Creed
- Prothean Race -> Mass Effect
- Extinction Entity -> Death Stranding
- Artificial Intelligence (i forgot the name) -> Horizon Zero Dawn
- ...(add another)
Forerunners -> Halo
There’d be loads such as Bloodborne for example because it’s very lovecraftian. Although not to be that guy but the protheans turned out to be pretty normal if not over glorified because aside from being slave masters they just got lucky and happened to build on empire on the ruins of other civilisations before them. The Reapers or the ones who made them are probably more of the trope you’re looking for.
Deathstroke --> me. Yeah everything has a beginning.
No way you are comparing Prothean to the Isu. Isu would be probably closer to the Leviathans than Protheans.
Wait.....weren't the synthetics in the Metacon-war their cycle's version of Geth? Created by someone else and then rising up?
Javic's Got 8 visionary eyes ...look at his pupils
“Wet your appetite and get you nice and warm” oh gamespot make sure you wine and dine me first!
Javik is the Prothean equivalent of Doom Slayer.
Well would you look at that.
you literally made a video on this a few days ago xD
Any of you played and had the party in “ME 3”? Talk to grunt! You and him get into a strange conversation
Love the video but I wouldn't exactly say that the protheans demise was swift, as far as I know that battle against the protheans lasted centuries so it was quite a while before they were actually defeated
Here is my question what if it took the humans 100 years to activate their relay would the reapers go after humans in this cycle or would they have 50,000 years to prepare for the next cycle?
Likely as their information would not been in the citadel records and the alliance a.i would not be installed in human ships, the only reason they would check up on earth was prothean records.
@@wilber2020 but that was last cycle and the relay was inactivate until humans activated it.
The Protheans need to be a prime role in the next new mass effect MILKYWAY game
That would be beyond amazig 💜
9:00 Favorite quote:
Primitives
I can't wait for the remastered trilogy.
dude I just wanna know what happened to the squid face design for the protheans
You forgot to mention they invented airlocks.
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I thought it took the protheans 250 years to be wiped out?
This is a little bit Halo lore with the forerunners and a little bit Babylon 5 with the Shadows.
In essence, the game plays you.
Prothean reminds me a lot of Romans.
I want to learn more about the Rakfeeli
Land wherever you please.
Sounds like a whole book 👍
I’d love Jonathan to break down the guns of far cry 4
Didn't the Prothean war against the Reapers last centuries? That's hardly swift. The events of ME3 take place over a few months and the Asari, Turean, etc all seem to be getting their collective butts kicked worse than the Protheans in that time frame.
[with humor]...im looking for one of them balloon rides
Welcome to Earth my friend, sorry if my humor offends you.
"Rakphiili", I've never heard of this extinct race, what do you know about them?
06:54 come again? What species is that?
Mass Effect I hold in higher regard than Star Wars and Star Trek. And I LOVE Star Wars and Star Trek.
That’s a high standard. Though so much is owed to Star Trek in Mass Effect, it cannot be denied.
Whoa. Ok. Tell me more about these Rakfeeli.
Do you know how the Collectors first came to be?
@@brianwhite9339Yes
Wasn’t Javik a pre order bonus or some shit lol
I think DLC.
Mission + Javik
@@krissv2386 That’s right. That was fucked low key lol, but great character nonetheless.
From Ashes DLC.
Protheans home too. Earth.
it wouldve been funny for javik to be a unindotrinated keeper
Alternative name for the Protheans:
The British Empire
I would like to play a ME game about the Prothean-Reaper war
The survivors were Mutated and Enslaved!!
No. It’s not the rigid structure of Protheans. I believe it’s because the Alliance defeated Sovereign.
"Finally!"
Javik's reaction when Sheppy wants to throw clone Sheppy's head out of the airlock (¬‿¬ )
I've never understood the reaper logic, your goal is to preserve life so they wipe out all sentient advanced life. That violates their whole purpose
They don't wipe out advanced life. Just those who invent ftl travel. The Asari technically should have been wiped out with the Protheans but the Protheans gate kept the ftl tech from them to use them as a cheat code in the next cycle.
Hopefully EA won't make him and the original reaper race mission DLC in the remastered edition.
It's said that all dlc for all 3 games will be included at launch in legendary edition, no worries there m8
Sorry but the Protheans retook the Citadel, moved it and discovered the Crucible plans from a species called the Rackfili.
Citation please because that's isn't anywhere in the lore.
i wanna finish andromeda now
fuuuu
I couldn’t stand it past the first half hour, personally. Kudos to the effort of seeing everything that’s there though. 👍
We don't talk about that
You’ve got to collect the fathers memories nodes. They really go into the back story that leads into the events of andromeda. Really made it better for me. Brought that nostalgic feeling back
In ME 1 and 2 I had such a different perception on my mind of what the protheans would be, culture-wise. They ended up being total jerks. Well done Bioware.
Same here. I know when I first thought of them I figured they were some sort of Atlantean utopian people.
Mass Effect 1 Protheans: Mysterious, intriguing, and nearly mystical beings. Shows flashes of scenes that hint on how they look like and how otherworldly they look like.
ME3: COMMANDA SHEPPAD!
Exactly. I didnt even play me3 when i saw that. Plus in me1 they were cthulu looking aliens, which made sense for the lore since the reapers looked like the heads of the me1 promethians.
If the Protheans beat the Reapers, when would they have colonized humans? I have a feeling 20th and 21st century humans would be useless to them, prior to humans discovering Mass Effect technology.
We woud have Been puppets to be Directs as seen fit
Do you forget the prothean that train the asari
Spoiler disclaimer would be appreciated (for the new fans), but definitely looking forward to more. Would love to see a review of the soundtrack to all three. I saw a collection of vinyl once, all multicolored to differentiate each record to each game. Quite exquisite package. 👀
There was a disclaimer.
@@SwobyJ Ahh at :53. Happened so quickly, I missed it. Thanks.
Should you want it, Nevada and Colorado belong to the Protheans...
IM READY
Did he just say E-voltuion?
They're the best. They are welcomed home. It's global news that they won't make public. That's why they don't like you. (You) in particular.
I never played any of the DLC for mass effect trilogy
Some of it is quite good.
You have some very good stuff to look forward to then. It had excellent DLC
Yes, but the lizard people evolved...?
The protheans are bascialy the forerunners from halo but with a roman mindset
I like how you’re mainly just reading Javik’s exact dialog…. Pretty lazy