"Humans are dangerous and unpredictable" I truly think there should be some dialogue at some point saying "Turians, Asari, Salarians, Quarians ... They all did something much worse than activating a relay, and humanity is dangerous ? "
@stewps How many Relays did the other races open before rachni were found? and how do we know going through one more relay would not have found better preserved technology for use against reapers or a new race who was friendly. since Vorcha/Rachni/Yahg/Krogan/Batarian were really 5/14 races who were hostile as a whole. Krogan and Yahg may even be Turian/Salarians fault for encountering them so early and trying to force them to change.
@@kyleellis9177 I wouldn't even consider the Krogan or Batarians hostile by nature. Although being morally ambiguous at best the Batarians didn't turn rogue until their diplomatic schism with the Citadel over Human Colonization efforts. Before that they largely abided by Citadel law and did honour its treaties. Although being aggressive and sometimes a little brutish the Krogan are also shown to have a sense or Personal Honour and can generally be worked with as long as you don't look weak in their eyes. The rift between the Krogan and the Citadel occured because the Krogan have adapted to a deeply hostile world which granted them a high adaptiveness to Alien environments, resistance to most poisons and venoms as well as an unusually high fertility rate to cope with most specimen usually dying before reaching Adulthood even after developing a Civilization. When the Salarians uplifted the Krogan from slowly dying in the Nuclear Winter they caused themselves and bestowed upon them all amenities of a spacefaring Civilization those High Birth Rates combined with a sudden high infant survivability rate and caused overpopulation on Tuchanka as well as other Colonies the Krogan founded in Cooperation with the Citadel Council.
@@Exodon2020 Krogans are hostile, its litterally part of their nature. now this doesn't make them evil just more likely to resort to violence. compared to other races, they had just nuked their own world because of how hostile they were.. Batarians again are hostile, and were determined to exert authority over humans as soon as we entered the galactic stage. Yes ihad them in a list with the Yahg but im not saying oh these are all equally evil i said their cultures are more hostile then the galactic norm. if you cant agree batarians and krogans are more likely to resort to force then the volus for example, you clearly never played the games. Krogans raised on another world might have been nice and friendly and same with batarians but they werent the natural enviroment they were raised in said be hostile or die. Batarians left he citadel so the could get revenge.
Its actually full on ridiculous on just how fast humanity grew in the Mass Effect verse. The time between them discovering Mass Effect and the First Contact War was around 10 years. Within that 10 year time period, they not only managed to reverse engineer a large portion of mass effect technology from the Prothean database, but they then managed to create and outfit hundreds of ships with said technology, many of which would not have been tested in real combat until that war. Then after that war, within the 30 years until the start of the first game, they managed to not only catch up with the rest of the galaxy, but actually exceed many of the smaller client races in technology and sheer numbers in military. That is a really ridiculous growth rate.
Honestly, the ME universe has never made a lick of sense. I'm still wracking my brain as to why the ever-loving fuck Cpt. Anderson isn't rotting in prison after the citadel escape.
Because every dickhead that has ever ruined everything for every body thought they were "doing the right thing". Pardoning treason of any kind sets a precedent that no ruler can ever afford.
@@davidhughes7547 No, heresy is humanity working with aliens. The idea of people even talking with those monstrosities makes me sick to my non-existent stomach.
My favorite interpretation of humanity in sci fi is that we're fucking crazy. Unpredictable. We're smart enough to be dangerous but not smart enough to know when we're poking a hornets nest.
@@physical_insanity Even Then. It's Not Too Far Fetched to be Called That. I Mean, We Cause Wars Amongst Ourselves Daily in Real Life. I Wouldn't Blame the Other Species for Initially Assuming Humans Are That Crazy. Keyword: Initially.
Small point, the Turians were using the whole "Breaking the law" as an excuse to quickly try and force humanity into being a client race before the other races noticed and objected, in the end it didn't work.
Citadel DLC Holo-Archive of the First Contact War, yeah? That WAS more likely General Desolas Arterius' aim when mobilizing his scout fleet, but the majority of Hierarchy leaders didn't know the full extent of Desolas' intentions considering his edited reports. Consider if you will, compared to the Volus whom petitioned for Turian Hierarchy protection of their territory and assets, full-on invasion and subjugation of a species outside the authority of the Citadel Council would be devastating to the Turians to their economy and ruin their reputation as protectors and galactic peace-keepers. They'd probably have their Council status revoked if they were found to instigating a war of conquest on another species without just cause. Also possibly being banned from operating in Citadel space and the Asair destroying their economy like they did the Batarians for their own continued use of slavery and black-funded pirate raids via heavy sanctions that would realistically devolve into a mass economic depression for the Turians.
ah humans, if theres one thing our history proves it that we are both absolutely nuts and never know when to give up. it only takes a bit of imagination to see where it could go.
The galaxy literally looks at the First Contact War, where turians blindsided humans with a massive attack over a law humans had never heard of and we understandably fought back to defend ourselves, and their takeaway from that is "humans are expansionist bullies." The cope is strong with them.
I would very much like to see more videos like this talking about Earth and Humanity in sci-fi. Not necessarily here, but in general, on channels like the Tempeltin Institute, and others. I really enjoyed this one!
On the other hand, we are the generation that will witness the biggest technological and societal leap in our entire history, or the total destruction of our future and/or species.
@@Meetmountain considering we ever get to space exploration. Looking at how we are still killing each other over imaginary friends or barbaric ideologies. I guess it´s gonna take another thousand years to get even close to actually colonize and explore space.
I really love Mass Effect's take on humanity: In a world where the vast majority of scifi is quick to point fingers at humanity, and our many flaws, it's nice to get a more optimistic take on our species. Humanity in Mass Effect, and Shepard at it's core really is a representation at how great our species can be at our best: Motivated and ingenuitive. Always striving to be the best that we can be.
There's something deeply appealing to me about the Mass Effect universe. I think it's because of how humanity feels so small and insignificant there. Just another species among many, and one of the newcomers at that. I love Star Trek for its technology, and for its positive view of our future and our potential. But as a fictional world, the over abundance of humanity shown in Trek is unappealing to me. I understand why it is that way, and I understand Starfleet and the UFP are not exclusively human institutions, but it sure feels like they are. I was just watching your "Why NOT to Join the Federation" video and one of your points really hit home: The idea of a species losing its cultural identity in order to assimilate into the Federation. Star Trek has a real problem with that, it's essentially a galaxy owned and operated by humans. Even the few prominent non-human species, such as Vulcans, are regularly harassed for not being "human enough", often told that they should be more like us. For me personally, the big appeal of exploring space would be to discover new life and new cultures. To finally be out in space and still find yourself surrounded by other humans is... well, let's just say that's why I'd choose to live in the Mass Effect universe.
Well true Humanity was breaking Citadel law when they where activating relays, they where unaware of Citadel and the law. You don't know your breaking a law unless you know what that law is.
To be fair, humanity kinda moved at breakneck speeds. I doubt the Citadel had any idea that a species that could (however briefly) challenge the Turin military and expand to over 2 dozen colonies effectively controlling planets and resources of a quarter of the galaxy if the map in the video is to be believed. Imagine getting the brief from Turin military and Salarian intelligence about this perplexing species. I'm thinking "THEY DID WHAT?!" "How long have they had this level of technology?" "Less than a decade?!"
Eponymous Archon if the humans had access to learn the law, I’d agree. However they didn’t know there was any law to break. It’s not like here where you can google the CFR in question. It would be like unknowingly straying into a different country and then breaking that law that has no exact equivalent in your country.
I read in the lore while playing Mass effect 1, that the other races saw Humanity as a sleeping giant due to our military being so small yet so powerful. As he said that we only had 3% of our population as part of the military and the lowest of all the other races, they fear what would happen if we became more aggressive and increased even by just another 3%. From what i saw in the games, the other races tended really to fear Humanity for what we might become, we were moving faster than them and saw everything as a challenge. Many Turians of course both feared and respected Humanity as we beat them int he first contact war and even though they did commit all their forces they still suffered a defeat to a supposedly lesser race. In my opinion too, the difference with Humanity was our ships, specially during ME3 you see that the Turian Cruisers are light, fast and rely on numerical advantage and sustained firepower. Whereas the Human Cruisers were heavier and slower but were covered in much heavier weaponry. In my view a straight fight between a Turian and Human Cruiser would end with a Human win and could probably take on two or three Turian Cruisers. We valued quality over quantity. This alone i think would make the Turians nervous and the Assari who although ad huge ships that outgunned anything the Alliance had, they still only had a very small number of them. The main military force of the Turians and the leadership of the Assari would look at Humanity with a degree of suspicion, fear and respect. It was probably why they voted in our favour on a number of issues really because they feared we would end up simply taking it it we were refused too much or outright. The Salarians were probably perplexed by us as they were considered the most innovative species only the be given a run for their money in how humanity went about our advancement. It was probably why they were worried about Humanity, we seemed to hold a lot of characteristics of all their races but dilled up to 11. maybe they feared we would become the next Rachni or Krogan? Sorry for long rant lol
I am not certain, but I remember the number being 2.5%. And if you calculate it for current US for example it would mean that 8.18 million would be in the armed forces. So I would assume that this number was more about everyone serving and working with the Systems Alliance. Hell, current World Population is at 7 billion, so with this estimate today's Systems Alliance would be 175 million people.
I voted for the Togruta simply because, even though I really like the Drell, and would like to see a video on them at some point, I already know quite a bit about them, whereas I am only marginally familiar with the Togruta, so I'd like to learn more about them.
What I see in the Alliance Military is frankly kinda disturbing. In the Iraqi Army, there was an officer in nearly every operation, no matter how small it was. I see the same behavior in the Alliance Marines. This blatant disrespect and lack if trust the Alliance places in its NCOs is very evident, given that there's an officer placed on every operation.
Rhett Zember true. Also the Marines lack the kill kill kill kind of mentality needed to be considered a Marines. They feel more like glorified SWAT rather than a force of the roughest toughest on the bounce combat troopers in the Galaxy.
Then they wouldn't be very likable in the story-telling. The idea was having humans be more accepting of the aliens and cohabitating with various races peacefully. The struggle of gaining acceptance due to the First Contact War (Relay 314 Incident) set a precedent with the Turians, the interest of the Asari due to Human similarity, the Salarian typical exploitative incentives, and the jealousy of the other Embassy races (Hanar, Elcor, Volus, Batarian) due to the Human's willing to wage war SMART and the Council's prerogative of trying to keep humanity under some level of control. IF humans weren't part of the Citadel with an embassy, human colonization would've probably doubled, overlapping into territories belonging to Batarians, or outright neighboring the Krogan DMZ. Their rightful fear was that, due to humanities diversity between various nations, planets, cultures, religions, and businesses, on top of having a fully working Prothean beacon, meant that the humans would outpace and possibly advance technologically beyond the Council species in under a century. By comparison, the Citadel had been more or less languishing in a state of stagnation for decades, if not centuries. Mostly due to the policy of Forbidding Relay Activation with fewer territory to expand into. That's my 5 cents anyway.
How many naval ships today are commanded by an NCO? highest rank i can find on a vessel is Coxswain or command master chief petty officer. So why would alliance navy differ? its not an army but a navy and i would be disgusted if it was common for NCO's to command ships capable of killing a planet since it really isn't hard for a single ship to "meteorite" a planet.
i think the main thing i got from my play throughs was that we were the race that would take an risk or challange or even hardship and come out better for it we were there when the rest of the galaxy needed us against the rogue geth then despite being dismissed we stood agianst the collecters then the reapers we led the way and in the end we united the galaxy like never before we achived something not even the prothens did we stood up to extinction and we won we proved our worth and our leader ship and our loyalty to those that stood with us we did something that had thought by even some humans as impossible but your char and his crew both human and alien brought the galaxy together and beat the greatest threat ever to come we did this even after we had been shuned by the other races and even though we were the newest kids on the block its clear to see from the game that without us every race that was attacked would be dead not to mention sooner due to the events of arrival
and now after some time of peace i wounder how scary we look to all the other races. some will respect us for a job well done but other will fear us for all we have achieved.
9:28 “Human military proportionally the smallest” If I’m not mistaken the Alliance fleet has probably more War Assets to contribute in ME3 than most other species even the Turians were like at 700-900 where humanity was like 800-1,000 with all war assets obtained and this is after Earth got hit pretty hard by the Reapers. “Smallest fleet” but the biggest Spear and Shield apparently like the Spartans
As i recall the Turian Army was the biggest Army in the Galaxy, solving every conflict with going full fleet or most of their ships head on. While Human Warfare was far more precise. Turians may have the biggest fleet but Warfare is still an Art looking at our History.
Of course the council would grant us great favour. We literally just emerged as a space fairing species and already gave your strongest military a run for its money, seems the council would prefer humanity to be a friend rather than an enemy..... a wise move imo although I am bias I guess 🤣 But I do understand why we scare the other races, we are capable of the intelligence of salarians, the ruthlessness of the krogan, strategic warfare like the turians and spread like the rachni. If humanity turned they could be the dominant species within 100 year's luckily for them we're mostly friendly
*_You know all the sex jokes aside in Mass Effect. Anyone else ever wonder how the Elcor reproduce? Further more what their ships are like? I mean a ultra heavy planetary environment must make their space ships ungodly thrust and hull wise.. I'd personally have loved to at least been able to visit the Elcor home world or even get an Elcor squadmate..._*
And probably waited half a day for that Elcor to catch up to you. Or is that before or after your bones break and heart fails after setting on their planet with Six-Gs compared to our One-G physiology?
@@falseprophet1415 well... Maybe look at their planet through a Very powerful telescope - akin to what they should've used in finalising Andromeda... Sorry, could've resisted but chose not to
Just had a thought that wouldn't surprise me at all (no matter how unlikely). It would be interesting if it came out that an advanced civilization was very subtly nudging our culture toward peaceful exploration and expansion to space, rather that a fearful, war-like approach that our history would predict. By encouraging the popular sci-fy entertainment like Star Trek and such that shows the benefits of being peaceful. While in others like Halo just how bad it can get if we choose the warmonger route. I'm sure this isn't the case but again i wouldn't be surprised if it was.
Crazy how fast and much of a role humanity got to play. Hell, aliens were still considered a myth within Admiral Anderson & Hackett’s lifetimes. Years later and one of ours destroys the apparent eternal cycle of the reapers. That is impressive
And going further we also kicked reaper asses. To quote: Who’s like us? Damn few, and they’re all dead. Think about it. Humans were the binding glue for the galaxy fighting side by side against the reaper. Without us they would still argue about the genophage and would´ve definently be harvested. Well except the krogans they would´ve probably survived the harvest somehow, i mean they are kind of like cockroaches.
I was kinda suprised tuchanka was a target since the krogan never made their own ships. heck if anything it would have been krogan and Yahg in next cycle. since we only had access to like a third of the galaxy, i bet the reapers had a portion of their forces going through every relay and finding galactic civilizations and races we had no idea about.
JAGTHEGEMINI biologically we're of similar strength and life span. The first war only stopped because the elder races stepped in. Turians conquered the world easily but humanity, not knowing what we're doing ever, hauled up full force with their entire fleet and beat back and turians expedition fleet. (Not the main fleet.) But the turians respected humanity because we don't know when to quit. Or even, many times, why we should quit.
anjetto1 And because we kicked their ass with some damn good tactics. Given time and a reason Humanity could develope the military capabilities to kick the shit out of the Bird men and send them back to Palevan... With their backs to us.
It's interesting... one way to look at it is a fan fiction where the United Federation of Planets was founded long before human first contact and an exploration of how we might react. Also, I think you did an amazing analysis job here. I'm also a big fan of Mass Effect.
in mass effect the thing that changes the way most of the races see us is if we save the leaders and move in to assist the fleet before the arms are opened most started to see us a friends it was only those that lost the respect they had earned still thought we were too brash and reckless those were the ones that did not like the fact that it was now our fleets defending the main place in the galaxy they saw us as having too much power but they did not know the extent of the damage done to the fleets involved we were the ones that had lost the less as we had been locked out of the battle till your char opens the relays this is noted if you are really forward but dont just punch the reporter you say the exact number of ships lost from each race and name ever ship the human fleets suffered and then even after this most dont know the true number of losses
the First Contact War was started because humans were activating a relay, something that's illegal in Citadel space.....i see 2 flaws with the Turians outright attacking because of that, 1 how were they supposed to know there were laws about that enforced by a galactic government? and 2 how the fuck did the Asari, Salarians and Turians leave their home systems without first activating relays?
The System's Alliance is probably my favourite faction from Mass Effect, but not because of the fact they're human. I like them because they're incredibly diverse while still being the same faction; they're like the Citadel races if they were all merged into one. Not to mention I really love - and I mean LOVE - the military aspect of them. I'm all for big and powerful militaries, but sometimes a strong military is one that's smaller and flexible, like the System's Alliance one. It plays it's cards smartly, it keeps it's fleet strong and competent, and it's infantry seems to strike the right balance of tooth and tail for the absolute maximum effectiveness, with most people operating in the tooth and computers and the like mostly operating in the tail. I just wish we got to see them in much clearer detail, especially the military aspect. I would've loved to see a platoon of Marines in action. The only thing I don't really like is the Rank and command structure, which needs some work, but I already took care of that.
I keep looking at the list of logos you show for the Unin and can’t help but thinking British airways has a space force. I know it probably isn’t but it seems like a variation of their logo
they "gave us" the part no one else wanted its was lawless full of pirets and such. then humans come on to the scene and the council like if you can enforce law here you can have it cuz noone else does.
We go. Is there a place to go? Let's go there? Is there a technology to achieve? Achieve it. Is there a weird ancient thing to fuck with? Fuck with it. Is there a weird alien to fuck? Fuck it. I think the fact that mass effect humans and star trek humans are so similar says something fundamental about how we precieve ourselves.
I believe that it is due to in fact ideological diversity, if you notice all of the other species have very rigid social orders, while humans came together with many different ideologies in a form of government which encourages that ideological diversity, so humans have everything, ranging from diplomats, political leaders, military leaders, engineers, scientists, businessmen, spies, assassins, pilots, explorers, adventurers. Basically Humanity has such a diverse group of people that it is able to come up with many different approaches to a single situation, you only need to see the first contact war and the casualties to see that Humanity would have been able to push the Turians back. Also humans have found legal loopholes to increase our naval power by building the Heavy Carriers, that are basically slightly different Dreadnoughts, and really the fact is that no matter that conflict humanity will learn to exploit an enemies weakness, and will use the means that are necessary to win.
Legatus Lucius that is why I say fuck peace just improve what you're good at to the point that, at the very least, the Multi verse united against you could not win in a war with prep time without some sort of plot convenience.
Humans by nature are colonialists, so if we were having the ability to travel throughout the systems in our universe, then yeah, we would occupy them and claim them for ourselves and evolve overtime in all aspects. It is no wonder why the Reapers attacked humanity first, because we are the biggest threat in the universe..
I wonder, instead of the systems alliance, what do you think would happen if Starfleet where the ones to make first contact with the citadel races and being as mass effect was in 22nd century that would be captain Archers time.
Interesting thought. Guess they would be seem as odd from a technological standpoint. As I see it Star Trek technology would be superior and give them quite an edge. In Mass effect they use particle accelerator guns on ships. It would be very hard to hit an ship travelling at full impulse or firing photon torpedoes from warp. Also Star Fleet ships have deflectors to protect ships from debris at relativistic speeds. So all in all I think everything would go down almost the same path. And in the end all get wiped out by the reapers. Star Fleet wouldn't be able to defend earth against a reaper invasion.
@@sebastianb5036 in terms of weapons technology I think Starfleet would be way more advanced than the reapers considering they had phasers or phase cannons as they were called in the early days that fired beams of nadeon particles, meaning directed energy weapons, something no spices in Mass effect has a counter for, not even the reapers.
@@therookie7060 The Reapers had something that resmbled Energy Weapons and I believe they had shields. Let's assume Star Fleet is superior - I believe they would be just overwhelmed by thousands of them. They didn't have a lot of capable ships in 22nd century. They couldn't even defend earth from the Xindi Probe or Weapon. Depending on how things turn out. Star Trek Earth might become their absolute priority target since it is an anomaly compared to other cycles. In ME they spread their forces.
As far as I know the Vatican did develop a plan on how to act if Alien Life is eventually found one day - especially if its intelligent as it kind of fucks up their entire Religion. They concluded that salvation should not be exclusive to humans, hence why Aliens could theoretically be baptized, participate in all Catholic Ceremonies, etc. However they clarified that the origins of Christianity lies on Earth - and thus Earth deserves a divine special Position amongst other planets.
@Mighty Fist Of Zeon! Yeah, wonder which kind of Aliens would follow a mythology whose very message would only make them second-rate believers at best. If a Religion isn't as Universal as possible it'll end up losing most of its appeal. In the Mass Effect Universe many Turians got themselves into Zen-Buddhaism because its Message did fit their society almost perfectly
The next ME game should be about a broken isolationist humanity a cold war minded humanity whose resurgence comes from a foundation of pain anger ineptitude and it's new future realizing that a handicapped humanity is a weak humanity they fall back from the galaxy to regroup heal and rebuild (especially militarily pushing the bounds if element zero tech with a renewed human ingenuity and STEM independence not being bound by the Citadel rules) this humanity will reinvest in itself reinvent itself and return to the Galactic stage not as a second class species but as a leader renewed and resurrected!
Lol, what!? Obviously you lack understanding of what a species push to extinction mindset would be like, btw so do bioware ,lol. What other kind of story could there be, let me guess a la la land nonsensical scenario where incompetent leadership and dumb decisions lead the day,sorry but the first trilogy already took that spot. 🤔
Perhaps trying to find unity isn't the answer, defining individuals of a species as being "one species" might be dangerous in the long-term. We've all seen the massive dark side of this point of view - I believe we should not look down upon what divides us as much as we praise what unites us.
If you are going to do a lore channel you should probably learn the difference between interstellar and intergalactic. Interstellar means 'between stars' and is intragalactic meaning it takes place within a galaxy. Intergalactic means 'between galaxies'. The Mass effect universe does not become intergalactic until Mass Effect Andromeda. All the events of the first three games take place in the Milky Way (The galaxy in which we are located). You destroy your credibility with mistakes like this and you perpetrate a pet peev of mine, that people will flippantly talk about space, then come across as ingnorant fools when they demonstrate thier inability to conceptualise the distances involved by constantly using 'intergalactic' for literally everything space related. Just to be absolutely sure you understand. Galaxy is not a synonim for solar system or star system. A Galaxy is a universal formation of tens of billions, sometimes trillions of stars, either held together by gravity or gravity and electromagnetism, depending on which hypthosis of universal structure formation you listen to. A solar system is usually two stars held together by gravity (and/or electromagnetism) with a collection of non-stellar objects in orbit around them, namely planets, planetesimals, asteroids, comets and alien constructs and if you listen to some speculative channels (Yeah I mean you Issac) megastructures as far as the eye can see. I hope you are suitably embarrassed. Usually only dirty colonials make this mistake. Remember man, you are british. Start acting like it (by getting your fact right).
"Humans are dangerous and unpredictable"
I truly think there should be some dialogue at some point saying
"Turians, Asari, Salarians, Quarians ...
They all did something much worse than activating a relay, and humanity is dangerous ? "
@stewps the geth
@stewps It's almost as if they didn't know the dangers of activating a relay when they did.
@stewps How many Relays did the other races open before rachni were found? and how do we know going through one more relay would not have found better preserved technology for use against reapers or a new race who was friendly. since Vorcha/Rachni/Yahg/Krogan/Batarian were really 5/14 races who were hostile as a whole. Krogan and Yahg may even be Turian/Salarians fault for encountering them so early and trying to force them to change.
@@kyleellis9177 I wouldn't even consider the Krogan or Batarians hostile by nature.
Although being morally ambiguous at best the Batarians didn't turn rogue until their diplomatic schism with the Citadel over Human Colonization efforts. Before that they largely abided by Citadel law and did honour its treaties.
Although being aggressive and sometimes a little brutish the Krogan are also shown to have a sense or Personal Honour and can generally be worked with as long as you don't look weak in their eyes. The rift between the Krogan and the Citadel occured because the Krogan have adapted to a deeply hostile world which granted them a high adaptiveness to Alien environments, resistance to most poisons and venoms as well as an unusually high fertility rate to cope with most specimen usually dying before reaching Adulthood even after developing a Civilization. When the Salarians uplifted the Krogan from slowly dying in the Nuclear Winter they caused themselves and bestowed upon them all amenities of a spacefaring Civilization those High Birth Rates combined with a sudden high infant survivability rate and caused overpopulation on Tuchanka as well as other Colonies the Krogan founded in Cooperation with the Citadel Council.
@@Exodon2020 Krogans are hostile, its litterally part of their nature. now this doesn't make them evil just more likely to resort to violence. compared to other races, they had just nuked their own world because of how hostile they were.. Batarians again are hostile, and were determined to exert authority over humans as soon as we entered the galactic stage.
Yes ihad them in a list with the Yahg but im not saying oh these are all equally evil i said their cultures are more hostile then the galactic norm. if you cant agree batarians and krogans are more likely to resort to force then the volus for example, you clearly never played the games.
Krogans raised on another world might have been nice and friendly and same with batarians but they werent the natural enviroment they were raised in said be hostile or die. Batarians left he citadel so the could get revenge.
Alliance Marine: Who’s like us?
Shepard: (Salutes) Damn few, and they’re all dead.
It's an honour, Commander!
I hated that that line choice was Renegade, especially when Shep tells the Marines, "we're all in this together."
“You can always count on Humans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.”
29 colonies in just 27 years....that's pretty goddamned impressive.
Now the galaxy!
Its actually full on ridiculous on just how fast humanity grew in the Mass Effect verse. The time between them discovering Mass Effect and the First Contact War was around 10 years. Within that 10 year time period, they not only managed to reverse engineer a large portion of mass effect technology from the Prothean database, but they then managed to create and outfit hundreds of ships with said technology, many of which would not have been tested in real combat until that war. Then after that war, within the 30 years until the start of the first game, they managed to not only catch up with the rest of the galaxy, but actually exceed many of the smaller client races in technology and sheer numbers in military. That is a really ridiculous growth rate.
Honestly, the ME universe has never made a lick of sense. I'm still wracking my brain as to why the ever-loving fuck Cpt. Anderson isn't rotting in prison after the citadel escape.
Spectres are not dictators. They can't override council authority.
Because every dickhead that has ever ruined everything for every body thought they were "doing the right thing". Pardoning treason of any kind sets a precedent that no ruler can ever afford.
I'm glad they didn't nerf humans in Mass Effect. Always good to pat your own species on the back!
@MrNotadream death to all dolphins
You know if you really want humanity to become the best they can be...... give us a call.
@@CyberController- Heresy
@@davidhughes7547 No, heresy is humanity working with aliens. The idea of people even talking with those monstrosities makes me sick to my non-existent stomach.
@@CyberController- The very idea of humans becoming more machine than man is Heresy cyber man. Burn with the rest of the abominable intelligence.
My favorite interpretation of humanity in sci fi is that we're fucking crazy. Unpredictable. We're smart enough to be dangerous but not smart enough to know when we're poking a hornets nest.
The only annoying thing about this interpretation is that people then confuse us for Space orks. We're clinically insane, not barbarians.
@@physical_insanity Even Then. It's Not Too Far Fetched to be Called That. I Mean, We Cause Wars Amongst Ourselves Daily in Real Life. I Wouldn't Blame the Other Species for Initially Assuming Humans Are That Crazy. Keyword: Initially.
@@physical_insanityWhat's wrong with DA BOYZ?
Small point, the Turians were using the whole "Breaking the law" as an excuse to quickly try and force humanity into being a client race before the other races noticed and objected, in the end it didn't work.
Citadel DLC Holo-Archive of the First Contact War, yeah? That WAS more likely General Desolas Arterius' aim when mobilizing his scout fleet, but the majority of Hierarchy leaders didn't know the full extent of Desolas' intentions considering his edited reports. Consider if you will, compared to the Volus whom petitioned for Turian Hierarchy protection of their territory and assets, full-on invasion and subjugation of a species outside the authority of the Citadel Council would be devastating to the Turians to their economy and ruin their reputation as protectors and galactic peace-keepers. They'd probably have their Council status revoked if they were found to instigating a war of conquest on another species without just cause. Also possibly being banned from operating in Citadel space and the Asair destroying their economy like they did the Batarians for their own continued use of slavery and black-funded pirate raids via heavy sanctions that would realistically devolve into a mass economic depression for the Turians.
ah humans, if theres one thing our history proves it that we are both absolutely nuts and never know when to give up. it only takes a bit of imagination to see where it could go.
You just hit the nail on the head.
We are divided till u poke us with a stick. Then we will ALL throttle u
As long as it goes boom i like it
If you give us the benefit of the doubt we’re liable to surprise you
Hey... where’s the lie?
The galaxy literally looks at the First Contact War, where turians blindsided humans with a massive attack over a law humans had never heard of and we understandably fought back to defend ourselves, and their takeaway from that is "humans are expansionist bullies." The cope is strong with them.
Do Da Drell!
Certifiably Ingame after this do the Zentradi from SDF Macross not Robotech.
Drell. I had enough Star Wars for a while.
Certifiably Ingame can you do the Drell that would cool to know more about that species
Mass Effect
Not cuzz I like ME over SW, but cuzz the votes are so close, n I'm a troll.
Humans had a reputation for pushing ahead somewhat both recklessly & aggressively that both impressed & unnerved many of the races.
I would very much like to see more videos like this talking about Earth and Humanity in sci-fi. Not necessarily here, but in general, on channels like the Tempeltin Institute, and others. I really enjoyed this one!
Dat Fishe Boi Agreed it's interesting to see how different writers portray the anthropological development of humaninity
I was born too late to discover the Earth. And too early to discover the stars
Abdurrahman Goren would you really want to be around to discover earth? They didn't have a/c
On the other hand, we are the generation that will witness the biggest technological and societal leap in our entire history, or the total destruction of our future and/or species.
So it is our duty to build the fundament for spaceexploration. Your grandkids will be thankfull.
@@Meetmountain considering we ever get to space exploration.
Looking at how we are still killing each other over imaginary friends or barbaric ideologies. I guess it´s gonna take another thousand years to get even close to actually colonize and explore space.
ggsjags we probably will explore the stars before the nations of earth will unite sadly
I really love Mass Effect's take on humanity:
In a world where the vast majority of scifi is quick to point fingers at humanity, and our many flaws, it's nice to get a more optimistic take on our species.
Humanity in Mass Effect, and Shepard at it's core really is a representation at how great our species can be at our best:
Motivated and ingenuitive. Always striving to be the best that we can be.
There's something deeply appealing to me about the Mass Effect universe. I think it's because of how humanity feels so small and insignificant there. Just another species among many, and one of the newcomers at that. I love Star Trek for its technology, and for its positive view of our future and our potential. But as a fictional world, the over abundance of humanity shown in Trek is unappealing to me. I understand why it is that way, and I understand Starfleet and the UFP are not exclusively human institutions, but it sure feels like they are. I was just watching your "Why NOT to Join the Federation" video and one of your points really hit home: The idea of a species losing its cultural identity in order to assimilate into the Federation. Star Trek has a real problem with that, it's essentially a galaxy owned and operated by humans. Even the few prominent non-human species, such as Vulcans, are regularly harassed for not being "human enough", often told that they should be more like us. For me personally, the big appeal of exploring space would be to discover new life and new cultures. To finally be out in space and still find yourself surrounded by other humans is... well, let's just say that's why I'd choose to live in the Mass Effect universe.
Well true Humanity was breaking Citadel law when they where activating relays, they where unaware of Citadel and the law. You don't know your breaking a law unless you know what that law is.
Not to mention they were not under citadel jurisdiction.
I mean they could of simply tried to contact the humans and tell to stop before attacking
To be fair, humanity kinda moved at breakneck speeds. I doubt the Citadel had any idea that a species that could (however briefly) challenge the Turin military and expand to over 2 dozen colonies effectively controlling planets and resources of a quarter of the galaxy if the map in the video is to be believed. Imagine getting the brief from Turin military and Salarian intelligence about this perplexing species. I'm thinking "THEY DID WHAT?!" "How long have they had this level of technology?" "Less than a decade?!"
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Eponymous Archon if the humans had access to learn the law, I’d agree. However they didn’t know there was any law to break. It’s not like here where you can google the CFR in question. It would be like unknowingly straying into a different country and then breaking that law that has no exact equivalent in your country.
relentless, reckless and war.. yup that describes humans perfectly
Don't forget creative :D
hey we are good at what we do and we do it with a skip in our step
Man, I'm upset that I can't explore deeper the ME Trilogy lore in the ME Andromeda.
Bioware really screwed up the series after the first game, didn't they?
To the Togruta!
Certifiably Ingame Actually the system alliance was founded after the discovery of the prothean ruins were discovered not before.
What’s a Togruta?
@@fumarc4501 Star Wars Asohka Tano, and Shakk Ti
@@fumarc4501 ahsoka tanos species
Loved this. Id like to see Mass Effect get a tv show like The Expanse.
Daehawk yeah but humanity sucks in mass effect
BOY DO WE HAVE NEWS
I read in the lore while playing Mass effect 1, that the other races saw Humanity as a sleeping giant due to our military being so small yet so powerful. As he said that we only had 3% of our population as part of the military and the lowest of all the other races, they fear what would happen if we became more aggressive and increased even by just another 3%. From what i saw in the games, the other races tended really to fear Humanity for what we might become, we were moving faster than them and saw everything as a challenge. Many Turians of course both feared and respected Humanity as we beat them int he first contact war and even though they did commit all their forces they still suffered a defeat to a supposedly lesser race.
In my opinion too, the difference with Humanity was our ships, specially during ME3 you see that the Turian Cruisers are light, fast and rely on numerical advantage and sustained firepower. Whereas the Human Cruisers were heavier and slower but were covered in much heavier weaponry. In my view a straight fight between a Turian and Human Cruiser would end with a Human win and could probably take on two or three Turian Cruisers. We valued quality over quantity.
This alone i think would make the Turians nervous and the Assari who although ad huge ships that outgunned anything the Alliance had, they still only had a very small number of them. The main military force of the Turians and the leadership of the Assari would look at Humanity with a degree of suspicion, fear and respect. It was probably why they voted in our favour on a number of issues really because they feared we would end up simply taking it it we were refused too much or outright. The Salarians were probably perplexed by us as they were considered the most innovative species only the be given a run for their money in how humanity went about our advancement.
It was probably why they were worried about Humanity, we seemed to hold a lot of characteristics of all their races but dilled up to 11. maybe they feared we would become the next Rachni or Krogan?
Sorry for long rant lol
I am not certain, but I remember the number being 2.5%. And if you calculate it for current US for example it would mean that 8.18 million would be in the armed forces. So I would assume that this number was more about everyone serving and working with the Systems Alliance. Hell, current World Population is at 7 billion, so with this estimate today's Systems Alliance would be 175 million people.
I voted for the Togruta simply because, even though I really like the Drell, and would like to see a video on them at some point, I already know quite a bit about them, whereas I am only marginally familiar with the Togruta, so I'd like to learn more about them.
Our normal traits that make us human are contagious. Makes sense other species were inspired by us in one way or another.
Loved this video. Also, another vote for the Torgruta.
What I see in the Alliance Military is frankly kinda disturbing. In the Iraqi Army, there was an officer in nearly every operation, no matter how small it was. I see the same behavior in the Alliance Marines. This blatant disrespect and lack if trust the Alliance places in its NCOs is very evident, given that there's an officer placed on every operation.
Rhett Zember true. Also the Marines lack the kill kill kill kind of mentality needed to be considered a Marines. They feel more like glorified SWAT rather than a force of the roughest toughest on the bounce combat troopers in the Galaxy.
Then they wouldn't be very likable in the story-telling. The idea was having humans be more accepting of the aliens and cohabitating with various races peacefully. The struggle of gaining acceptance due to the First Contact War (Relay 314 Incident) set a precedent with the Turians, the interest of the Asari due to Human similarity, the Salarian typical exploitative incentives, and the jealousy of the other Embassy races (Hanar, Elcor, Volus, Batarian) due to the Human's willing to wage war SMART and the Council's prerogative of trying to keep humanity under some level of control. IF humans weren't part of the Citadel with an embassy, human colonization would've probably doubled, overlapping into territories belonging to Batarians, or outright neighboring the Krogan DMZ. Their rightful fear was that, due to humanities diversity between various nations, planets, cultures, religions, and businesses, on top of having a fully working Prothean beacon, meant that the humans would outpace and possibly advance technologically beyond the Council species in under a century.
By comparison, the Citadel had been more or less languishing in a state of stagnation for decades, if not centuries. Mostly due to the policy of Forbidding Relay Activation with fewer territory to expand into.
That's my 5 cents anyway.
How many naval ships today are commanded by an NCO? highest rank i can find on a vessel is Coxswain or command master chief petty officer. So why would alliance navy differ? its not an army but a navy and i would be disgusted if it was common for NCO's to command ships capable of killing a planet since it really isn't hard for a single ship to "meteorite" a planet.
i think the main thing i got from my play throughs was that we were the race that would take an risk or challange or even hardship and come out better for it we were there when the rest of the galaxy needed us against the rogue geth then despite being dismissed we stood agianst the collecters then the reapers we led the way and in the end we united the galaxy like never before we achived something not even the prothens did we stood up to extinction and we won we proved our worth and our leader ship and our loyalty to those that stood with us we did something that had thought by even some humans as impossible but your char and his crew both human and alien brought the galaxy together and beat the greatest threat ever to come we did this even after we had been shuned by the other races and even though we were the newest kids on the block its clear to see from the game that without us every race that was attacked would be dead not to mention sooner due to the events of arrival
and now after some time of peace i wounder how scary we look to all the other races. some will respect us for a job well done but other will fear us for all we have achieved.
9:28 “Human military proportionally the smallest”
If I’m not mistaken the Alliance fleet has probably more War Assets to contribute in ME3 than most other species even the Turians were like at 700-900 where humanity was like 800-1,000 with all war assets obtained and this is after Earth got hit pretty hard by the Reapers.
“Smallest fleet” but the biggest Spear and Shield apparently like the Spartans
As i recall the Turian Army was the biggest Army in the Galaxy, solving every conflict with going full fleet or most of their ships head on. While Human Warfare was far more precise. Turians may have the biggest fleet but Warfare is still an Art looking at our History.
I thought those war assets were only the fleets that are assembling to retake earth? Fleets on thessia(?), palaven, and other areas are not included.
Of course the council would grant us great favour. We literally just emerged as a space fairing species and already gave your strongest military a run for its money, seems the council would prefer humanity to be a friend rather than an enemy..... a wise move imo although I am bias I guess 🤣
But I do understand why we scare the other races, we are capable of the intelligence of salarians, the ruthlessness of the krogan, strategic warfare like the turians and spread like the rachni. If humanity turned they could be the dominant species within 100 year's luckily for them we're mostly friendly
*_You know all the sex jokes aside in Mass Effect. Anyone else ever wonder how the Elcor reproduce? Further more what their ships are like? I mean a ultra heavy planetary environment must make their space ships ungodly thrust and hull wise.. I'd personally have loved to at least been able to visit the Elcor home world or even get an Elcor squadmate..._*
Sex jokes aside? Not in video that has words "reach" and "flexible" right next to each other (at 11:34). :-D
I wonder how they even managed to develop tech if they need to walk on all four limbs in that high-g environment
@@TwinPeaksIndustriesI know you're right but it'll all be "because Fictional science law/lore "🤣🤣🤣
And probably waited half a day for that Elcor to catch up to you. Or is that before or after your bones break and heart fails after setting on their planet with Six-Gs compared to our One-G physiology?
@@falseprophet1415 well... Maybe look at their planet through a Very powerful telescope - akin to what they should've used in finalising Andromeda... Sorry, could've resisted but chose not to
omg there is the algerian space agency ?? wtf
We are number 1 camel spacefaring agency :p Jk, jk.
Togruta would be cool.
Just had a thought that wouldn't surprise me at all (no matter how unlikely).
It would be interesting if it came out that an advanced civilization was very subtly nudging our culture toward peaceful exploration and expansion to space, rather that a fearful, war-like approach that our history would predict.
By encouraging the popular sci-fy entertainment like Star Trek and such that shows the benefits of being peaceful. While in others like Halo just how bad it can get if we choose the warmonger route.
I'm sure this isn't the case but again i wouldn't be surprised if it was.
Great video!
Drell
Crazy how fast and much of a role humanity got to play. Hell, aliens were still considered a myth within Admiral Anderson & Hackett’s lifetimes. Years later and one of ours destroys the apparent eternal cycle of the reapers. That is impressive
And going further we also kicked reaper asses.
To quote:
Who’s like us?
Damn few, and they’re all dead. Think about it. Humans were the binding glue for the galaxy fighting side by side against the reaper. Without us they would still argue about the genophage and would´ve definently be harvested. Well except the krogans they would´ve probably survived the harvest somehow, i mean they are kind of like cockroaches.
I was kinda suprised tuchanka was a target since the krogan never made their own ships. heck if anything it would have been krogan and Yahg in next cycle. since we only had access to like a third of the galaxy, i bet the reapers had a portion of their forces going through every relay and finding galactic civilizations and races we had no idea about.
more mass effect
Humans are as strong as Turians!?
JAGTHEGEMINI biologically we're of similar strength and life span. The first war only stopped because the elder races stepped in. Turians conquered the world easily but humanity, not knowing what we're doing ever, hauled up full force with their entire fleet and beat back and turians expedition fleet. (Not the main fleet.) But the turians respected humanity because we don't know when to quit. Or even, many times, why we should quit.
anjetto1 And because we kicked their ass with some damn good tactics. Given time and a reason Humanity could develope the military capabilities to kick the shit out of the Bird men and send them back to Palevan... With their backs to us.
@@ironstarofmordian7098 or in a Body bag, seriously , very few things are as scary as a Human backed into a corner when it comes to sentient species
@dan p we could have always sent a fleet through a key relay and blown a main turian intersection or the only road to human territory.
It's interesting... one way to look at it is a fan fiction where the United Federation of Planets was founded long before human first contact and an exploration of how we might react.
Also, I think you did an amazing analysis job here. I'm also a big fan of Mass Effect.
Very good video, my man!
Thanks! :)
Certifiably Ingame You are welcome~ Mass Effect is one of my fave series. I even enjoyed Andromeda!
Asoka tano I mean togruta
in mass effect the thing that changes the way most of the races see us is if we save the leaders and move in to assist the fleet before the arms are opened most started to see us a friends it was only those that lost the respect they had earned still thought we were too brash and reckless those were the ones that did not like the fact that it was now our fleets defending the main place in the galaxy they saw us as having too much power but they did not know the extent of the damage done to the fleets involved we were the ones that had lost the less as we had been locked out of the battle till your char opens the relays this is noted if you are really forward but dont just punch the reporter you say the exact number of ships lost from each race and name ever ship the human fleets suffered and then even after this most dont know the true number of losses
Really like the format on this one.
the First Contact War was started because humans were activating a relay, something that's illegal in Citadel space.....i see 2 flaws with the Turians outright attacking because of that, 1 how were they supposed to know there were laws about that enforced by a galactic government? and 2 how the fuck did the Asari, Salarians and Turians leave their home systems without first activating relays?
your surprised that a governmental body operates a "Do as We Say Not as We Do" policy?
The Karen Mass Relay. Is this where all of the Karen's in the galaxy go to complain to the manager of the Citidel?
Right off the bat, a humble salute.
this was a great video.
For humanity!
Human nationalism!
Humanity first!
loved the game but the ending of 3 killed it for me
It would have been nice to see more of ME universe. It's too bad they nuked in in ME3, and ME:A is just high budget fan fiction.
God I miss these games.
The System's Alliance is probably my favourite faction from Mass Effect, but not because of the fact they're human. I like them because they're incredibly diverse while still being the same faction; they're like the Citadel races if they were all merged into one. Not to mention I really love - and I mean LOVE - the military aspect of them. I'm all for big and powerful militaries, but sometimes a strong military is one that's smaller and flexible, like the System's Alliance one. It plays it's cards smartly, it keeps it's fleet strong and competent, and it's infantry seems to strike the right balance of tooth and tail for the absolute maximum effectiveness, with most people operating in the tooth and computers and the like mostly operating in the tail.
I just wish we got to see them in much clearer detail, especially the military aspect. I would've loved to see a platoon of Marines in action. The only thing I don't really like is the Rank and command structure, which needs some work, but I already took care of that.
Casually showing off Vancouver while calling Earth a paradise world.
UNSC! UNSC! UNSC! UNSC!
Only if ONI has their own video.
I keep looking at the list of logos you show for the Unin and can’t help but thinking British airways has a space force.
I know it probably isn’t but it seems like a variation of their logo
loved the vid. One wee thing. Wasn't Discovery and Freedoms Progress colonies as well or just outposts?
Yeah they were, This list wasn't every human colony and I'm certain there's bound to be some that aren't even mentioned in the ME games.
Crazy thought. What was the civilization that lived in our solar system for it to be a mass relay there? It would have to predate humans ten fold tho.
Good chanel, excellent vids. You earned another sub.
Mankind is more than the Alliance and I'll never side with this organization because not every person would be allowed to join their ranks
Go dang systems alliance and it's miniscule military power.
*God dang
Awesome
Build what you need, make your ship
It’s strange though that the alliance has their own part of the galaxy. What was there 30-40 years ago?
they "gave us" the part no one else wanted its was lawless full of pirets and such. then humans come on to the scene and the council like if you can enforce law here you can have it cuz noone else does.
This video was pretty great.
The Batarians were not included.
Didn't make the cut.
Excellent video
Huuuuumooons! Quark
On pay day welcome my friend :)
We go. Is there a place to go? Let's go there? Is there a technology to achieve? Achieve it. Is there a weird ancient thing to fuck with? Fuck with it. Is there a weird alien to fuck? Fuck it. I think the fact that mass effect humans and star trek humans are so similar says something fundamental about how we precieve ourselves.
What sound have happened if the imperium took the place of the systems alliance? 😅
How about Human species in Star Wars Galactic Empire/Republic and Star Trek United Earth/United Federation of Planets?.
accept the krogan that is awkward partnership
A joint national-space program that eventually advocated to be its own nation?
cerberus video maybe?
I think the aliens don't like humanity because we're willing to take risks lol
I vote for the Drell.
Humans are the best only because of our diversity of traits, physical and mental.
I believe that it is due to in fact ideological diversity, if you notice all of the other species have very rigid social orders, while humans came together with many different ideologies in a form of government which encourages that ideological diversity, so humans have everything, ranging from diplomats, political leaders, military leaders, engineers, scientists, businessmen, spies, assassins, pilots, explorers, adventurers. Basically Humanity has such a diverse group of people that it is able to come up with many different approaches to a single situation, you only need to see the first contact war and the casualties to see that Humanity would have been able to push the Turians back.
Also humans have found legal loopholes to increase our naval power by building the Heavy Carriers, that are basically slightly different Dreadnoughts, and really the fact is that no matter that conflict humanity will learn to exploit an enemies weakness, and will use the means that are necessary to win.
Humanity is the only real people in a galaxy of hats that is mass effect.
r/hfy would love this
Humanity khatre mein hai!
yes as Humanity we do like to strive for peace but we are so darn good at killing things
Legatus Lucius that is why I say fuck peace just improve what you're good at to the point that, at the very least, the Multi verse united against you could not win in a war with prep time without some sort of plot convenience.
@Razgriz the Mandalorian we are so good at killing we can pursue diplomacy wait what?
Humans by nature are colonialists, so if we were having the ability to travel throughout the systems in our universe, then yeah, we would occupy them and claim them for ourselves and evolve overtime in all aspects.
It is no wonder why the Reapers attacked humanity first, because we are the biggest threat in the universe..
9:40 wasn't Feros a human colony?
Human nature at it's best
Awsome
I wonder, instead of the systems alliance, what do you think would happen if Starfleet where the ones to make first contact with the citadel races and being as mass effect was in 22nd century that would be captain Archers time.
Interesting thought. Guess they would be seem as odd from a technological standpoint. As I see it Star Trek technology would be superior and give them quite an edge. In Mass effect they use particle accelerator guns on ships. It would be very hard to hit an ship travelling at full impulse or firing photon torpedoes from warp. Also Star Fleet ships have deflectors to protect ships from debris at relativistic speeds.
So all in all I think everything would go down almost the same path. And in the end all get wiped out by the reapers. Star Fleet wouldn't be able to defend earth against a reaper invasion.
@@sebastianb5036 in terms of weapons technology I think Starfleet would be way more advanced than the reapers considering they had phasers or phase cannons as they were called in the early days that fired beams of nadeon particles, meaning directed energy weapons, something no spices in Mass effect has a counter for, not even the reapers.
@@therookie7060 The Reapers had something that resmbled Energy Weapons and I believe they had shields.
Let's assume Star Fleet is superior - I believe they would be just overwhelmed by thousands of them.
They didn't have a lot of capable ships in 22nd century. They couldn't even defend earth from the Xindi Probe or Weapon.
Depending on how things turn out. Star Trek Earth might become their absolute priority target since it is an anomaly compared to other cycles.
In ME they spread their forces.
SPACE!!!
i know andromda sucked but please do the kett or anglie
Drell please
👍
Space Canada/NorthAmerica
Catholicism, just saying I don't we would conform to technology
As far as I know the Vatican did develop a plan on how to act if Alien Life is eventually found one day - especially if its intelligent as it kind of fucks up their entire Religion. They concluded that salvation should not be exclusive to humans, hence why Aliens could theoretically be baptized, participate in all Catholic Ceremonies, etc. However they clarified that the origins of Christianity lies on Earth - and thus Earth deserves a divine special Position amongst other planets.
@Mighty Fist Of Zeon! Yeah, wonder which kind of Aliens would follow a mythology whose very message would only make them second-rate believers at best. If a Religion isn't as Universal as possible it'll end up losing most of its appeal.
In the Mass Effect Universe many Turians got themselves into Zen-Buddhaism because its Message did fit their society almost perfectly
#Humanityfirst
The next ME game should be about a broken isolationist humanity a cold war minded humanity whose resurgence comes from a foundation of pain anger ineptitude and it's new future realizing that a handicapped humanity is a weak humanity they fall back from the galaxy to regroup heal and rebuild (especially militarily pushing the bounds if element zero tech with a renewed human ingenuity and STEM independence not being bound by the Citadel rules) this humanity will reinvest in itself reinvent itself and return to the Galactic stage not as a second class species but as a leader renewed and resurrected!
So another trashy HFY game? Yeah no.
Lol, what!? Obviously you lack understanding of what a species push to extinction mindset would be like, btw so do bioware ,lol. What other kind of story could there be, let me guess a la la land nonsensical scenario where incompetent leadership and dumb decisions lead the day,sorry but the first trilogy already took that spot. 🤔
Left wimg at its finest
Perhaps trying to find unity isn't the answer, defining individuals of a species as being "one species" might be dangerous in the long-term. We've all seen the massive dark side of this point of view - I believe we should not look down upon what divides us as much as we praise what unites us.
EVE online
Religion adopting scientific evidence. Definitely sci fi.
I always get disappointed by humans in other universes. Working with aliens, come on! We're better than that!
If you are going to do a lore channel you should probably learn the difference between interstellar and intergalactic. Interstellar means 'between stars' and is intragalactic meaning it takes place within a galaxy. Intergalactic means 'between galaxies'. The Mass effect universe does not become intergalactic until Mass Effect Andromeda. All the events of the first three games take place in the Milky Way (The galaxy in which we are located). You destroy your credibility with mistakes like this and you perpetrate a pet peev of mine, that people will flippantly talk about space, then come across as ingnorant fools when they demonstrate thier inability to conceptualise the distances involved by constantly using 'intergalactic' for literally everything space related.
Just to be absolutely sure you understand. Galaxy is not a synonim for solar system or star system. A Galaxy is a universal formation of tens of billions, sometimes trillions of stars, either held together by gravity or gravity and electromagnetism, depending on which hypthosis of universal structure formation you listen to. A solar system is usually two stars held together by gravity (and/or electromagnetism) with a collection of non-stellar objects in orbit around them, namely planets, planetesimals, asteroids, comets and alien constructs and if you listen to some speculative channels (Yeah I mean you Issac) megastructures as far as the eye can see.
I hope you are suitably embarrassed. Usually only dirty colonials make this mistake. Remember man, you are british. Start acting like it (by getting your fact right).
To the Togruta!
Drell