Blessing in disguise. It was a very nice stretch, but this build as constructed reached its celing (a very good ceiling and one that many teams and fans of those teams would love to have experienced). Time to change it up, only downhill from here if we stay the same. Just as a side note, this team is already a 500ish team with or without Jimmy.
It is what it is.. Dame didn't see a future with Portland, and Jimmy is seeing the same thing right now. Miami is heading toward youth and athletisism. And most fans are ready to see SOMETHING NEW. WE WILL ALWAYS LOVE JIMMY.🔥
The Heat basketball ball era is never over! Jimmy has a preference and I'm sure the Miami Heat will respect his preferences. See you later Jimmy we'll holla at cha✌️!
The prudent thing to do is either trade him or, best option imo, do nothing and let him walk. No need to jeopardized your cap space and future for a 35 yr old player.
My breaking point with Jimmy was when I found out he doesn't fly or stay with the team on the road which has gone on for quite some time now. I've enjoyed having Jimmy here but I'm a Heat fan first and I'm no fan of actions that seem to put you above the team. It's a terrible example to set and makes it hard for a coach to hold everyone accountable fairly. If Jimmy was confident in his ability to get a big-money contract this off-season from a contender, his agent wouldn't be exploring trade scenarios. Instead, they're fishing for a situation where someone will give him that extra year now. To me, that sounds desperate and concerning on their part that this option year will be his best route once the season ends.
All of these MULTIPLE player deals do not work. Stop promoting them. Learn the NEW CBA please. There are issues with waiving players and having that 14 player floor.
Playing couch GM here .. get on the phone with the kings and see what’s fox price ? If they can somehow kill 2 birds with one trade (Jimmy) then do it … Or I would trade bam and fillers to Sacramento for sabonis to keep the Jimmy window active.
If the Miami trade other pieces than Jimmy Butler to get a starting center, all of our problems would be over. We don't need to trade Terry or Tyler. Duncan robinson, Jovic and Jaquez, could bring us a real starting caliber Center. All other positions on the Miami Heat are accounted for. 💯
Fishy. You got that right maybe you finally ready to get a seasoned fan from Massachusetts on the show? This sound similar to when we thought we had dame. The fact that they announced it on Christmas makes it even more of a tall tale
lol. Media has been saying the rockets will trade for 3 years already. They’re not making any trade. There’s no reason to add any young player. For the exact same reasons you mentioned that there’s a salary cap and it’s so difficult to acquire assets.
It will be drawn out to o the trade deadline. I believe there is plenty of time plus they are not in a rush to trade 3 ECF in five years, thats tough to match. Jimmy was healthy for the finals runs and if someone didn't make a call for him to shoot a dumbass 3 in 22...............
Who’s the reporter who asked pat riley if he heard what Jimmy said last year about the Knicks ? Give that guy an assist plus all these ESPN reporters who spoke it to existence.
I really believe we’re one power forward away from the chip so this news doesn’t feel good. We need toughness from that spot and some threes. But Wiggins, fillers and some cap space for Jimmy wouldn’t make me buy tix next season
It's a hard decision overpay and keep paying 50million for a 20ppg guy with great defense or rebuild ! This is the place he loved playing most but money always wins
Pat Riley Just announced that there will be no Trade . Butler is obviously making excuses not to play , injury , illness, etc. Riley is not going to let him go quitely. A battle of Egos will ensue. Butler waited too long to assert his player authority. He is too old now and he can`t stay on the court enough to warrant the giant money . Riley ain`t going to pay for past performance .
Jimmy already has a max-extension. It kicked in this year, and he has a player option for next season. His agent is just asking for a new extension because Jimmy's eligible for one, and his job is to do what's best for his client. Asking for an extension and demanding one aren't the same thing. Jimmy himself has always said and made it clear he wants to finish his career in Miami and isn't concerned about a contract extension because he's already made a lot of money and will continue to make a lot of money going forward (his player option is for over $50 next season)
He still wants his salary to increase and his contracts to be renewed even though his play has been declining including minutes, points per game and field goal percentage. Jimmy Butler is delusional. I've been trying to say trade him for the past 3 years. Give him what he wants
Jimmy wants out. Pat wants him to stay. Jimmy wants help. Pat says he has it. Jimmy… after dropping a 35pt triple double in a loss to DETROIT, disagrees!
Miami Heat season ticket member over here. I don’t want Jimmy traded, but if he is going to be traded, Bradley Beal makes absolutely no sense for the Heat. He's not the player he once was, and he has 2 more years left on his contract for the same amount of money Jimmy was asking for in an extension. Might as well just extend Jimmy instead of trading for Beal. Jimmy trades that make more sense for both teams, IMO Jimmy to GS for players and picks Jimmy to NO for Ingram or Zion Jimmy to Sac for Fox I'm from Houston and a Rockets fans also, I don’t like the trade for Houston, but they do have a lot of good young players and picks. So, for Miami, it would be a good trade Lastly, we're all assuming it's Beal who Phoenix would want to trade, but what if it's really KD......now that would make sense for both Phoenix and Miami...you heard this idea and thought from me first
I watch Pat do the same thing to Dwyane Wade. Boy once Jimmy leaves, Pat goin to retire. Because ppl not goin to want to play for him if he doesn’t take care of his stars. LA Lakers goin to be that destination for stars on their last legs, because Jenny took care of Kobe. Reason why LBJ went out there. Others will follow goin that route, Pat will be known after this situation as the guy who doesn’t care and rather pay undrafted guys Pennie’s on a dollar and surround his stars with that formula. Pat never put soiled ppl around Jimmy during these five years and he carry this team to two finals. This Been a win now situation since he got here. Pat never really try to put the right guys around him and Bam. All I know is that Bam friends are watching this closely, might be thinking if we team up, we are relocating elsewhere 😂😂😂😂😂 the Heat will be a lottery team by next year
@ what have they done to help their star player Jimmy butler? Get Kyle Lowry and Terry rozier?? Such an amazing organization and well coached team should’ve been able to build a better roster to support him in the playoffs especially since they performed well in the playoffs so many different times
You can’t just be well coached and develop players. You have to pivot and make roster changes to keep up with surrounding teams. And the Heat have been stagnant as far as that goes the past two years
these 2 idiots still cant accept the fact that Tyler Herro is the face of the franchise.. Yes i said it im no coward! Bam is Bam, he will play defense as hard as he can and thats it but Tyler is our guy he's the one who taking us to the promise land. Just watch
Tyler having the best season of his career and gets still a borderline playin team. Tyler is a role player on any other team but in the heat he’s a number one option because they are so bad lmao
No trade is going to make Bam a killer in the playoffs. Jimmy is their only hope to make a deep playoff run. Unless Ware & Jovic go God Mode at 20/21 if Jimmy goes it could be 10 years until the Heat see the Finals again. If Jimmy is playing you always have a chance. Not KD, not Beal, not Embiid. The guys that ALWAYS give you a chance at a championship are: LeBron, Steph, GIannis, Joker, Jimmy. That’s it. Those are KILLERS. Everyone else is just a star who is a super talented & skilled player
6:06 the one what was disrespected were the fans when this dude has been coasting these past two seasons at the miami heat's expense. if he feels disrespected by being called out by pat then so be it. he's a prima donna. shm
@@shawncain882 that was my biggest issue. The man put his body on the line for 2 great runs in three seasons with the roster that's counted out each season. True basketball fans notice Pat did the bare minimum when it came to adding talent to the roster around Jimmy. The fact both Hart and Oubre plays were dirty and not acknowledged at all let's me know the league is against him because he has always betted on himself and proved 3 straight front offices wrong.
I’m tired of people acting like what will the Heat do without Jimmy Butler. How often did we read about Jimmy Butler before he came to the Heat. How often did the rest of the world care about Jimmy Butler before he came to the Heat. What is lost in the conversation is how much the Miami Heat has helped and affected Jimmy Butler‘s career for the better. Theres the old saying do not bite the hand that feeds you. Jimmy Butler will not get the recognition on any other team that he has right now on the Heat. And as other commenters said. He does not even travel with the team. That is not a good look. I don’t like it. He did not start out that way. Now he’s a little more interested in TikTok likes social media hits and just being in the conversation regardless of what that means. He’s asking too much wanting a max. He is not that player anymore. His agent needs to sit him down and tell him the reality. So lets be clear… Jimmy Butler needs the Heat more than the Heat needs Jimmy Butler.? Could you please do an episode on this topic or at least mention it.
Jimmy already has a max-extension. It kicked in this year, and he has a player option for next season. His agent is just asking for a new extension because Jimmy's eligible for one, and his job is to do what's best for his client. Asking for an extension and demanding one aren't the same thing. Jimmy himself has always said and made it clear he wants to finish his career in Miami and isn't concerned about a contract extension because he's already made a lot of money and will continue to make a lot of money going forward (his player option is for over $50 next season)
and also stop with this Cape for tyler you seen what happened in the playoffs yall dont wanna trade him while his value is high then complain about it later on you can get a good return for tyler
Miami needed to pick a direction thank you Jimmy for finally making them do it
Exactly! Jimmy has a preference and I'm sure the Miami Heat will respect his preferences. See you later Jimmy we'll holla at cha... deuces✌️!
Do not trade Jimmy for Beal.
Beal would get them some value in return
Pack his bags- we need to gain young promising assets and move forward.
Yessir
Kuminga is the best young assist that's out there. Kerr doesn't like him and Kuminga wants to play every game
@@Hammer-eo8vx however getting the Kaminga package does most likely takes away your chances of getting Fox in 2026.
I’m sure by y’all heard the new report by now but, I never got the sense they were gonna trade him. I think they’ll value the cap space
Funny - everyone bashing Shams …and yet. Here we are.
They were going to war with Shams he dropped a bomb on Christmas and Shams said I dare one you to deny it 😂😂.
The response is loading...people been with their families. Shams counted on that to have his moment😅
Jimmy’s agent just didn’t like Shams name dropping him like crazy. Lol.
Blessing in disguise. It was a very nice stretch, but this build as constructed reached its celing (a very good ceiling and one that many teams and fans of those teams would love to have experienced). Time to change it up, only downhill from here if we stay the same. Just as a side note, this team is already a 500ish team with or without Jimmy.
It is what it is.. Dame didn't see a future with Portland, and Jimmy is seeing the same thing right now. Miami is heading toward youth and athletisism. And most fans are ready to see SOMETHING NEW. WE WILL ALWAYS LOVE JIMMY.🔥
The Heat basketball ball era is never over! Jimmy has a preference and I'm sure the Miami Heat will respect his preferences. See you later Jimmy we'll holla at cha✌️!
Everybody seems to have forgotten, Jimmy didn't ask for a max, he just wanted 1 extra year added onto his current deal. That was it.
dont care dude coasted hard during his tenure with the heat. that's not a professional behavior
@@polarvortex6601you're a flatout liar and what's wrong with these apps. Coasted? Rage bait.
@@polarvortex6601 "coasted" shut up two finals appearances.... "not professional behavior"
@@polarvortex6601and yet gave the team relevance now they will fade back into obscurity. Good luck getting someone else to WILLINGLY come to Miami.
@@polarvortex6601coasted hard? He dragged y’all to the Finals twice with no help.
The last time yall made the Finals before that was with superteams.
Riley has now made it clear they aren’t trading him. So…?
The prudent thing to do is either trade him or, best option imo, do nothing and let him walk. No need to jeopardized your cap space and future for a 35 yr old player.
It's funny I got a butler jersey for Christmas to hang on my wall the same day he wants to trade lol
@@isaiahmorris7856 Authentic or replica?
Jimmy + Rozier = Van Vleet + Adams (expiring) +J Smith Jr. + Whitmore + 2025/2027/2029 1st rd picks. I think would be fine.
I appreciate non-cheerleading discussions; I understand “deep” local fans may not have the same interest in this type of discussion. Thank you.
Thank you Jimmy , Goodbye !👋
My breaking point with Jimmy was when I found out he doesn't fly or stay with the team on the road which has gone on for quite some time now.
I've enjoyed having Jimmy here but I'm a Heat fan first and I'm no fan of actions that seem to put you above the team. It's a terrible example to set and makes it hard for a coach to hold everyone accountable fairly.
If Jimmy was confident in his ability to get a big-money contract this off-season from a contender, his agent wouldn't be exploring trade scenarios. Instead, they're fishing for a situation where someone will give him that extra year now. To me, that sounds desperate and concerning on their part that this option year will be his best route once the season ends.
Makes sense for both sides. I'm going to try and make sure I watch as many games as possible until the deadline
The trade makes sense and will work best for both parties.
Good can’t wait for us to trade him for the better meant of the team
... betterment... enjoy the lottery.
NO to option #1, No to option #2, NO to option#3......Gotta be option 4!!!!!!!
All of these MULTIPLE player deals do not work. Stop promoting them. Learn the NEW CBA please. There are issues with waiving players and having that 14 player floor.
Rozier, Jovic, Duncan, 1st pick to Utah for Markkaren would make Butler happy.
People podcasting about shit they don’t know about and get paid for it. Why pat comes out and says stfu
Playing couch GM here .. get on the phone with the kings and see what’s fox price ? If they can somehow kill 2 birds with one trade (Jimmy) then do it … Or I would trade bam and fillers to Sacramento for sabonis to keep the Jimmy window active.
Also keeps fox there by trading bam to them.
Could work but if we dont go for Kaminga we would have enough money to sign him in free agent in 2026.
If Phoenix wants do a trade for Beal for Jimmy he might the only trade that makes sense Riley probably can get a future 1st round pick from Phoenix
If the Miami trade other pieces than Jimmy Butler to get a starting center, all of our problems would be over. We don't need to trade Terry or Tyler. Duncan robinson, Jovic and Jaquez, could bring us a real starting caliber Center. All other positions on the Miami Heat are accounted for. 💯
Fishy. You got that right maybe you finally ready to get a seasoned fan from Massachusetts on the show? This sound similar to when we thought we had dame. The fact that they announced it on Christmas makes it even more of a tall tale
What about Brandon Ingram? I think he would be a great replacement
Wade is part owner of this team maybe he could have some influence of making that trade happen?
Michael porter Jr! Denver nuggets
If they have to trade him I hope they approach Utah with a Trade package that will get them Lauren Markkaren.
lol. Media has been saying the rockets will trade for 3 years already. They’re not making any trade. There’s no reason to add any young player. For the exact same reasons you mentioned that there’s a salary cap and it’s so difficult to acquire assets.
It will be drawn out to o the trade deadline. I believe there is plenty of time plus they are not in a rush to trade 3 ECF in five years, thats tough to match. Jimmy was healthy for the finals runs and if someone didn't make a call for him to shoot a dumbass 3 in 22...............
Miami heat twitter just dropped a bomb on all this
Butler back to the Wolves, lol
There are great assets there its possible
Finally Riley is forced to do something!
Is Jimmy Butler the inventor of basketball? He doesn’t deserve a max extension. Mr lock-on apologies
Who’s the reporter who asked pat riley if he heard what Jimmy said last year about the Knicks ? Give that guy an assist plus all these ESPN reporters who spoke it to existence.
pretty sure that was Tobin lol
I really believe we’re one power forward away from the chip so this news doesn’t feel good. We need toughness from that spot and some threes. But Wiggins, fillers and some cap space for Jimmy wouldn’t make me buy tix next season
Man, bring Woj back!!!! He knew what he was talking about
Jimmy for MPJ happening
It's a hard decision overpay and keep paying 50million for a 20ppg guy with great defense or rebuild ! This is the place he loved playing most but money always wins
Closer to 18 ppg and his on ball defense has slipped last couple years sadly
Advanced stats say otherwise @@Therantguyyeazy
Pat Riley Just announced that there will be no Trade . Butler is obviously making excuses not to play , injury , illness, etc. Riley is not going to let him go quitely. A battle of Egos will ensue. Butler waited too long to assert his player authority. He is too old now and he can`t stay on the court enough to warrant the giant money . Riley ain`t going to pay for past performance .
Jimmy already has a max-extension. It kicked in this year, and he has a player option for next season. His agent is just asking for a new extension because Jimmy's eligible for one, and his job is to do what's best for his client.
Asking for an extension and demanding one aren't the same thing. Jimmy himself has always said and made it clear he wants to finish his career in Miami and isn't concerned about a contract extension because he's already made a lot of money and will continue to make a lot of money going forward (his player option is for over $50 next season)
The Heat should flip whatever they get from the Jimmy trade + some of their young players for a Zion, Ingram and/or MPJ trade
Houston would have to trade for Embid to land Jimmy
Joe Cronin domino effect
Lol
He's Tired Of Losing
He still wants his salary to increase and his contracts to be renewed even though his play has been declining including minutes, points per game and field goal percentage. Jimmy Butler is delusional. I've been trying to say trade him for the past 3 years. Give him what he wants
Jimmy wants out. Pat wants him to stay. Jimmy wants help. Pat says he has it. Jimmy… after dropping a 35pt triple double in a loss to DETROIT, disagrees!
Miami Heat season ticket member over here. I don’t want Jimmy traded, but if he is going to be traded, Bradley Beal makes absolutely no sense for the Heat. He's not the player he once was, and he has 2 more years left on his contract for the same amount of money Jimmy was asking for in an extension. Might as well just extend Jimmy instead of trading for Beal.
Jimmy trades that make more sense for both teams, IMO
Jimmy to GS for players and picks
Jimmy to NO for Ingram or Zion
Jimmy to Sac for Fox
I'm from Houston and a Rockets fans also, I don’t like the trade for Houston, but they do have a lot of good young players and picks. So, for Miami, it would be a good trade
Lastly, we're all assuming it's Beal who Phoenix would want to trade, but what if it's really KD......now that would make sense for both Phoenix and Miami...you heard this idea and thought from me first
D Aaron fox over Beal
Houston wouod be dumb to do that, just let things marinate with the young guys.
Stop reporting false rumors!
Jimmy better not get on the wrong side of Pat Riley, he could end up in Washington or worse Canada.
I can’t believe you guys bought into Shams over your fellow beat writers 🤦🏽♂️
I watch Pat do the same thing to Dwyane Wade. Boy once Jimmy leaves, Pat goin to retire. Because ppl not goin to want to play for him if he doesn’t take care of his stars. LA Lakers goin to be that destination for stars on their last legs, because Jenny took care of Kobe. Reason why LBJ went out there. Others will follow goin that route, Pat will be known after this situation as the guy who doesn’t care and rather pay undrafted guys Pennie’s on a dollar and surround his stars with that formula. Pat never put soiled ppl around Jimmy during these five years and he carry this team to two finals. This Been a win now situation since he got here. Pat never really try to put the right guys around him and Bam. All I know is that Bam friends are watching this closely, might be thinking if we team up, we are relocating elsewhere 😂😂😂😂😂 the Heat will be a lottery team by next year
Bam also was denied a pay raise before Jimmy. Yet heat fans cant see the writing on the wall. Bam likely to leave after Jimmy
@@Bft149good, bam isn’t worth the money lol why pay players that give you a .500 hundred record?
@@Allenmnemonicx I agree he should leave. Point still stands Pat stated this team is ready for a champ.
David go back to your videos last year you were saying different things 😂
JK and a pick Wiggins
Trade Herro, Jimmy for young talent and draft picks and start the rebuild. That’s the cleanest solution
Bound to happen. Just a matter of time. Thanx (/Jimmy, don't let the door hit you in the butt on way out.
All you guys needed to do was listen to your colleague Ethan and you would have known what was up
The Heat failed Jimmy Butler
Most over used and recycled comment on the internet
@@King_Quinoverused... recycled... yet true.
@ what have they done to help their star player Jimmy butler? Get Kyle Lowry and Terry rozier?? Such an amazing organization and well coached team should’ve been able to build a better roster to support him in the playoffs especially since they performed well in the playoffs so many different times
You can’t just be well coached and develop players. You have to pivot and make roster changes to keep up with surrounding teams. And the Heat have been stagnant as far as that goes the past two years
You mean the oft injured, team cancer failed the Heat
This is what Miami does. Milk what they can and don’t take of you on the backend. Dwade actually won them 3 rings and still got done dirty. Shameful.
NO BEAL...please!!!!!!!
why y’all surprised with this trade at least we get money back and maybe be able repuild with Tyler herro and bam adebayo
Have a feeling Bam might leave too.
Rebuild what? A new playin team? They are role players
these 2 idiots still cant accept the fact that Tyler Herro is the face of the franchise.. Yes i said it im no coward! Bam is Bam, he will play defense as hard as he can and thats it but Tyler is our guy he's the one who taking us to the promise land. Just watch
Tyler having the best season of his career and gets still a borderline playin team. Tyler is a role player on any other team but in the heat he’s a number one option because they are so bad lmao
@@Nunyabiznessboi have you watch vs magic game now? tell me how good BUM adebayo is..
@@Nunyabiznessboi again, Tyler Herro is the face of the franchise right now.. Bum is Bum..
i am not watching a Heat game for the next 2 years then.
Jimmy has been great but all good things come to an end...we were in much worse shape when Lebron left
You guys should have traded for Dame.
Try and get a young talented player and some draft capital!!
D Fox
No trade is going to make Bam a killer in the playoffs. Jimmy is their only hope to make a deep playoff run. Unless Ware & Jovic go God Mode at 20/21 if Jimmy goes it could be 10 years until the Heat see the Finals again. If Jimmy is playing you always have a chance. Not KD, not Beal, not Embiid. The guys that ALWAYS give you a chance at a championship are: LeBron, Steph, GIannis, Joker, Jimmy. That’s it. Those are KILLERS. Everyone else is just a star who is a super talented & skilled player
😮😮😮
Heat are a 500 team...BYE BYE JIMMY DRAMA...not enough BUCKETS!!!
Jimmys gone within 2 weeks. My prediction
Heat did fail
Drama, drama, drama.
FO not only failed to Jimmy, they did the same with Us. Several Times. Riley and all FO, Including Spo with youth talents Mania.
Jimmy Butler and Duncan Robinson package deal see what Miami can get with this.
Trade GS
6:06 the one what was disrespected were the fans when this dude has been coasting these past two seasons at the miami heat's expense.
if he feels disrespected by being called out by pat then so be it. he's a prima donna. shm
Pat hasn't surrounded him with 💩. Bum fanbase doesn't deserve him.
and who were his help, washed up Kevin Love & Kyle Lowry? For a chip?
Pat needed to hold himself more accountable with his poor roster construction in that press conference
@@shawncain882 that was my biggest issue. The man put his body on the line for 2 great runs in three seasons with the roster that's counted out each season. True basketball fans notice Pat did the bare minimum when it came to adding talent to the roster around Jimmy. The fact both Hart and Oubre plays were dirty and not acknowledged at all let's me know the league is against him because he has always betted on himself and proved 3 straight front offices wrong.
I’m tired of people acting like what will the Heat do without Jimmy Butler. How often did we read about Jimmy Butler before he came to the Heat. How often did the rest of the world care about Jimmy Butler before he came to the Heat. What is lost in the conversation is how much the Miami Heat has helped and affected Jimmy Butler‘s career for the better. Theres the old saying do not bite the hand that feeds you. Jimmy Butler will not get the recognition on any other team that he has right now on the Heat. And as other commenters said. He does not even travel with the team. That is not a good look. I don’t like it. He did not start out that way. Now he’s a little more interested in TikTok likes social media hits and just being in the conversation regardless of what that means. He’s asking too much wanting a max. He is not that player anymore. His agent needs to sit him down and tell him the reality. So lets be clear… Jimmy Butler needs the Heat more than the Heat needs Jimmy Butler.? Could you please do an episode on this topic or at least mention it.
Jimmy already has a max-extension. It kicked in this year, and he has a player option for next season. His agent is just asking for a new extension because Jimmy's eligible for one, and his job is to do what's best for his client.
Asking for an extension and demanding one aren't the same thing. Jimmy himself has always said and made it clear he wants to finish his career in Miami and isn't concerned about a contract extension because he's already made a lot of money and will continue to make a lot of money going forward (his player option is for over $50 next season)
Dont worry heat fans, he will be gone soon. Pat is so overrated.
Wait a second. When Jimmy is gone, Miami is a .500 team? They're a .500 team WITH him! They're a lottery team without him.
They play better without jimmy. You clearly don’t know anything about this team.
Tank or rebuild around Tyler herro and bam adebayo
and yall believe sham stop with this nonsense I do not believe it, people and there rumors,
and also stop with this Cape for tyler you seen what happened in the playoffs yall dont wanna trade him while his value is high then complain about it later on you can get a good return for tyler