I for one am glad Riles put out a statement! As a Heat fan, I was tired of hearing 1 sided ESPN reports about speculative trades with no regards about Heat interest in said trade!
man why is wes complaining that Pat riley tried to silence the rumors ? i feel ok with it and now i can just focus on watching the heat play basketball. even as fan of the team that shit is annoying af.
Genuinely don’t think Wes has ever said they can’t make a run but both him and David agree that they can’t win a championship. This team might make a run they can’t win 4 playoff rounds
@@pashanamir6151 he has said that actually, and he speaks of the team like they’re straight trash. The reason it looked so bad last year is because they were completely decimated by injuries basically from start to finish. But if (big if) fully healthy for once, I’m honestly not scared of anybody in the east, and that includes Boston.
As media members, whenever you’re more concerned with getting cozy with the front office than actually reporting the facts and speaking the truth to your audience, people view you as not credible…..
Honestly the only true way to end the speculations is by winning games. Look at how the bucks started lol, they were losing games and 50 thousand Gianni’s trade scenarios were talked about and as soon as the bucks started winning games those rumors were completely shut to hell. I promise you if we won those three games that we dropped this past week THIS WOULD NOT BE TALKED ABOUT
I have to agree with Wes. What is the point of releasing that message? Why not just say, something like "don't believe the major media"... that way you kill the rumors, while still allowing yourself to handle your business internally. Now, you pigeon-holed yourself into making it seem like you won't trade Jimmy under any circumstances, which should not be the case!!! If a great deal is put on the table, you trade Jimmy. Why? Because you cannot pay a 35, 36, 37 year old 50+ million dollars a year. That would be a huge mistake for this front office. Like Dave and Wes say, if that deal presents itself, and Butler ends up traded, then Pat and everyone in the front office ends up looking shady. I don't think this was handled the way it should have. This team is clearly ready to pivot to their next generation of players, and unfortunately those timelines do not align with Jimmy's...
Not sure it can be called "reporting". Surely it is the responsibility of the journalist to make an honest effort to cover every angle of "the story". That doesn't seem to be the case here on the Heat's perspective. Which is why it is fair for Riley to refer to it as rumors...
I didn't know until today that Jimmy made those comments last year to a random person on the street and was recorded without him knowing. I always thought Jimmy was being interviewed by a sports media person and said those things This changes everything for me. Pat was totally out of line to make such a hugh deal about this in his post-season press conference and embarrass his star player. For those of you who want to say Pat was just holding Jimmy accountable, I say Pat needs to look in the mirror and hold himself more accountable for his poor roster construction around Jimmy, striking out on big name trades and missing out on opportunities for other impact players in the process Pat is way past his expiration date as President of basketball operations and needs to step down after this season and spend more time with his family as he once told Stan Van Gundy.
What role players did they miss out on that would’ve been worth the money? Jae Crowder was asking for 3 years $30 million from the Heat, PJ Tucker at 36 wanted a 3 year 35 million dollar contract from the Heat. Way too much if you ask me. The problem is the max money they had to dish out to Bam, Tyler and Jimmy. And now with the new CBA it makes it even more challenging for teams to construct an adequate roster. You wanted to keep Caleb Martin for 5 years $70 million or Max Strus for 4 years $60 million. We can’t afford to dish out money like that on players that don’t provide consistent play. Not saying Caleb and Max didn’t have great moments but we have no flexibility. We need to restart. You can’t really blame the front office for listening to Jimmy and signing a 35 year old Kyle Lowry.
Wes argument make no sense at all! Why play in the 1st place if u have a problem with Riley calling u out??? Just simply talk to your Coach Spo in private b4 the season begins
He hates Riley for some reason. Personally, I think he had to say something. It’s pointless to talk about these trades that are never going to happen. They want a fair deal for Jimmy Butler not some bums with bad contracts. It’s better to just play out with jimmy and if he leaves we get a bunch of cap relief.
Jimmy doesn’t care what Pat said he knows he has to ball out in the regular season and playoffs and the money will come. Jimmy knows his body will not survive this
It’s obvious Wes just wants Jimmy to be traded. If Pat Riley publicly says he’s standing behind Jimmy then that does help the rumors, of course it doesn’t stop them completely but it does a lot for the teams chemistry.
The one thing pisses me off about Spo and I love him play the Damn BIGS geez look what Lively did for Dallas last year by playoffs time he was ready play the damn kid
Sports content is interesting. You can always tell the level of a team's play based off of the types of conversations the podcasts are having. The good teams have content about how they can match up and have a title chance. For mid teams, it's all about how one portion of the team is holding them back and everyone has the simple answer. The bad teams are all about management, coaching, and drafting or any other reason.
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Wes is being disrespectful to Pat Riley. He said what he said to calm the locker room and I don't think he will trade Jimmy this season. For what, for who? Bradley Bill or some parts and pieces? Naw man. Let it play out next summer. I'm embarrassed you cover the Heat.
Wes you overthinking it. Jimmy wanted someone to have his back. Both Micky and Pat have supported him publicly in the last month. We don’t know what has been said behind closed doors between the parties either. What do you want them to do? Make a tictok reel? Hell Burnie had the orange braids for him and all 😂
I think Pat was a dumbass for telling Jimmy to shut up about taking shit to the Celtics like to that point he was whopping they ass he can talk his shit and we should’ve had his back
That was my issue. I wanted Jimmy to request a trade immediately. The front office continues to surround him with a clearance rack roster but want him to die on the court, so they can praise Spo's coaching. I watched the Bulls do the same nonsense to Jimmy and they suck since trading him.The team is a lottery team without Jimmy but they don't value him like other stars.
David would never give Tyler most of the credit cookie because he doesn’t like him. Remember, it’s not how you start but how you finish, and Herro did made the most important shot of the game….
We usually don't comment on little brother (Orlando), but all this Magic overr-achieving business has been a distraction to the Heat . .and it is not fair to the continuing saga of Jimmy Butler.
If Tyler is trying to play like Steph then you ideally want someone like klay. Someone who can make up for his defensive limitations and also space the floor
Had Pat run this by his media liason no way he put a stupid statement like this out. You mean to tell me if the Suns call Par and say we give you Durant for Jimmy he is not trading jimmy? If the Warriors call and say we are giving you Curry for Jimmy you are not trading. The media here is so juvenile that is why they are not challenging Riley. This is the arrogance of a GM with job security. If Mikey pick up the phone and say I’m tired of this mess trade Jimmy can you tell Mikey no? At least you guys understand the statement is stupid.
It’s no different than the clippers with PG they didn’t like any of the trades so they let him walk Jimmy has to show up and ball out to prove to teams he is worth the max
This is all business nothing personal Jimmy's got to get out of his feelings and understand Pat is doing straight business That's all this is about if he has any other issues that's on him because at the end of the day he him and Bernie lee are doing business so why can't Pat and spo and the Mickey Arisen
You guys are idiots..without Riley ain’t no rings no matter what..real day one Heat fans know that..Jimmy was robbing any way..he don’t play reg season..he can kick rocks and he will cause this relationship can’t be mended.
I agree with Wes, Riley is behind the times. He needs to retire. Has not gotten any stars to come here in how long? Throwing those rings on the table don't work anymore.
FOOOOOLS GOLD!~~~~~~~~~ ORL is missing their TOP players.......ORL was HORRIBLE from3...they turned the ball over and we won!!!!!!!!!! by 1!!!!!!!!!!! HEAT are mediocre!!!
I miss the time when journalism meant facts being presented as a result of research and analysis. Elite photography and speaking ability. Now it’s just two idiots in their spare bedrooms speculating and throwing rumors back and forth. This shit sucks.
David would never give Tyler most of the credit cookie because he doesn’t like him. Remember, it’s not how you start but how you finish, and Herro did made the most important shot of the game….
I for one am glad Riles put out a statement! As a Heat fan, I was tired of hearing 1 sided ESPN reports about speculative trades with no regards about Heat interest in said trade!
I concur
It’s not going away it’s going to be a thing all season long
Wes with the drama per usual. Riley has spoken and all we can do is move forward and see what happens.
man why is wes complaining that Pat riley tried to silence the rumors ?
i feel ok with it and now i can just focus on watching the heat play basketball. even as fan of the team that shit is annoying af.
I'm making sure to keep all Wes receipts for when the heat make a deep playoff run
In your dreams. This team is a round 1 out unless the other team is injured
Genuinely don’t think Wes has ever said they can’t make a run but both him and David agree that they can’t win a championship. This team might make a run they can’t win 4 playoff rounds
@@pashanamir6151 he has said that actually, and he speaks of the team like they’re straight trash. The reason it looked so bad last year is because they were completely decimated by injuries basically from start to finish. But if (big if) fully healthy for once, I’m honestly not scared of anybody in the east, and that includes Boston.
delusional heat fan...lol
Bro we’re not making a deep playoff run and ima die hard fan
As media members, whenever you’re more concerned with getting cozy with the front office than actually reporting the facts and speaking the truth to your audience, people view you as not credible…..
Honestly the only true way to end the speculations is by winning games. Look at how the bucks started lol, they were losing games and 50 thousand Gianni’s trade scenarios were talked about and as soon as the bucks started winning games those rumors were completely shut to hell. I promise you if we won those three games that we dropped this past week THIS WOULD NOT BE TALKED ABOUT
I have to agree with Wes. What is the point of releasing that message? Why not just say, something like "don't believe the major media"... that way you kill the rumors, while still allowing yourself to handle your business internally. Now, you pigeon-holed yourself into making it seem like you won't trade Jimmy under any circumstances, which should not be the case!!! If a great deal is put on the table, you trade Jimmy. Why? Because you cannot pay a 35, 36, 37 year old 50+ million dollars a year. That would be a huge mistake for this front office. Like Dave and Wes say, if that deal presents itself, and Butler ends up traded, then Pat and everyone in the front office ends up looking shady. I don't think this was handled the way it should have. This team is clearly ready to pivot to their next generation of players, and unfortunately those timelines do not align with Jimmy's...
Man, Wes, you are making this SO much more than what it is.
Not sure it can be called "reporting". Surely it is the responsibility of the journalist to make an honest effort to cover every angle of "the story". That doesn't seem to be the case here on the Heat's perspective. Which is why it is fair for Riley to refer to it as rumors...
I didn't know until today that Jimmy made those comments last year to a random person on the street and was recorded without him knowing. I always thought Jimmy was being interviewed by a sports media person and said those things
This changes everything for me. Pat was totally out of line to make such a hugh deal about this in his post-season press conference and embarrass his star player.
For those of you who want to say Pat was just holding Jimmy accountable, I say Pat needs to look in the mirror and hold himself more accountable for his poor roster construction around Jimmy, striking out on big name trades and missing out on opportunities for other impact players in the process
Pat is way past his expiration date as President of basketball operations and needs to step down after this season and spend more time with his family as he once told Stan Van Gundy.
What role players did they miss out on that would’ve been worth the money? Jae Crowder was asking for 3 years $30 million from the Heat, PJ Tucker at 36 wanted a 3 year 35 million dollar contract from the Heat. Way too much if you ask me. The problem is the max money they had to dish out to Bam, Tyler and Jimmy. And now with the new CBA it makes it even more challenging for teams to construct an adequate roster. You wanted to keep Caleb Martin for 5 years $70 million or Max Strus for 4 years $60 million. We can’t afford to dish out money like that on players that don’t provide consistent play. Not saying Caleb and Max didn’t have great moments but we have no flexibility. We need to restart. You can’t really blame the front office for listening to Jimmy and signing a 35 year old Kyle Lowry.
@liamhart3978 , Kelly Oubre and Kristaps Porzingis and others. My point remains valid. I didn't even waste my time reading everything you wrote.
Wes argument make no sense at all! Why play in the 1st place if u have a problem with Riley calling u out??? Just simply talk to your Coach Spo in private b4 the season begins
Wes needs to Man Up! Pats runs the Miami Heat and everyone knows that. Jimmy can want out all he wants, but isn't going anywhere unless Pat says year.
Its also hard scorong more if your consistently getting double and triple teamed
Bro im so sick of Wes. Riley said what he said end of story. Whatever you think it means doesn't matter
He hates Riley for some reason. Personally, I think he had to say something. It’s pointless to talk about these trades that are never going to happen. They want a fair deal for Jimmy Butler not some bums with bad contracts. It’s better to just play out with jimmy and if he leaves we get a bunch of cap relief.
Jimmy doesn’t care what Pat said he knows he has to ball out in the regular season and playoffs and the money will come.
Jimmy knows his body will not survive this
Bam and Spo, apologies show😂😂😂
It’s obvious Wes just wants Jimmy to be traded. If Pat Riley publicly says he’s standing behind Jimmy then that does help the rumors, of course it doesn’t stop them completely but it does a lot for the teams chemistry.
This is where I question our coach decisions you have element to play with all those young blood use them give them a chance 😅😊
The one thing pisses me off about Spo and I love him play the Damn BIGS geez look what Lively did for Dallas last year by playoffs time he was ready play the damn kid
Sports content is interesting. You can always tell the level of a team's play based off of the types of conversations the podcasts are having. The good teams have content about how they can match up and have a title chance. For mid teams, it's all about how one portion of the team is holding them back and everyone has the simple answer. The bad teams are all about management, coaching, and drafting or any other reason.
Wes is being disrespectful to Pat Riley. He said what he said to calm the locker room and I don't think he will trade Jimmy this season. For what, for who? Bradley Bill or some parts and pieces? Naw man. Let it play out next summer. I'm embarrassed you cover the Heat.
Wes you overthinking it. Jimmy wanted someone to have his back. Both Micky and Pat have supported him publicly in the last month. We don’t know what has been said behind closed doors between the parties either.
What do you want them to do? Make a tictok reel? Hell Burnie had the orange braids for him and all 😂
They should’ve been said something if they were gonna say anything at all
Stop it Wes give 3 to Jaime
Wes forgets not everyone lives in the digital age. All this smoke is just that.
I think Pat was a dumbass for telling Jimmy to shut up about taking shit to the Celtics like to that point he was whopping they ass he can talk his shit and we should’ve had his back
That was my issue. I wanted Jimmy to request a trade immediately. The front office continues to surround him with a clearance rack roster but want him to die on the court, so they can praise Spo's coaching. I watched the Bulls do the same nonsense to Jimmy and they suck since trading him.The team is a lottery team without Jimmy but they don't value him like other stars.
David would never give Tyler most of the credit cookie because he doesn’t like him. Remember, it’s not how you start but how you finish, and Herro did made the most important shot of the game….
Bam has averaged damn near 20pts and 10 rebs over the last 3 seasons. Increasing his scoring each year. I don't recognise this season's Bam.
Bams offense is terrible, he maybe perfect off the court but he cant and wont ever be your best player. He doesnt deserve a max contract
Jimmy got to play and stop talking. dude do more complaining than playing
Let old man Riles cook
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This kid Wes been trippin lately
Tyler Herro is the face of the franchise!!! SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!
What happened to Bam🤔🤔
Tyler Herro is playing great but he gotta do it through the playoffs then you can call it “his team “
Maybe as a number 3.
Have you watched Bam this season???
It's not, we need to see him 2nd half of season and Post season.
I don't agree with you guys. True or not, it is a rumor. We'll see what happens.
Bam was awesome.
Typical Miami Heat fans, annoyed with Wes, because he’s the one that is speaking the truth about the organization…
We need a wing
I blame Tobin for all this
Riley is doing it again. Don't worry about none of this. They need stories. Do you still think Jimmy played his last game as a heat
ESPN tries so hard to protect their senior NBA analyst and look so foolish as they attempt to protect his validity.
Wassup wes
We usually don't comment on little brother (Orlando), but all this Magic overr-achieving business has been a distraction to the Heat . .and it is not fair to the continuing saga of Jimmy Butler.
If Tyler is trying to play like Steph then you ideally want someone like klay. Someone who can make up for his defensive limitations and also space the floor
MIAMI IS WINNING GAMES!! All outside noise means NOTHING! HOLIDAY CELEBRATE!!!#GO HEEEEAT!!💥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Just have two points. This is tyler hero's team, in my opinion and second it is so obvious.This summer took a loud out of Bam
I believe we should take a shot at victor oladipo again. To me, hes the type of player that fits next to herro.
He may be too far gone. But I liked Dipo he was trying to fight his way back
Riley is Riley!!!! I trust his wisdom 😊
Riley is Trash. Sleepy Grandma Pat needs to go retire with his boyfriend Sleepy Joe Biden
Wes🤦🏾♂️
Had Pat run this by his media liason no way he put a stupid statement like this out. You mean to tell me if the Suns call Par and say we give you Durant for Jimmy he is not trading jimmy? If the Warriors call and say we are giving you Curry for Jimmy you are not trading. The media here is so juvenile that is why they are not challenging Riley. This is the arrogance of a GM with job security. If Mikey pick up the phone and say I’m tired of this mess trade Jimmy can you tell Mikey no? At least you guys understand the statement is stupid.
Tyler mvp
2 credit cookies for Tyler? David hates herro. This is embarrassing. He was off all night. He shots 46% from the field and 50% from 3. Joke.
Didn’t he have 6TOs, though?
Orlando is one of the best defensive teams in the association. Tyler is the only offensive threat they have to focus on
Tyler was kinda a no show until the last 4 minutes of the 4th quarter
So, no mention about our max role player Bam. SMH, if Tyler played like this you guys would be killing him and please stop with all these Bam excuses.
I just don’t understand how bam is on the court for 30+ minutes and only has 4 points. lol.
yall operating on the fact that jimmy is going to be traded when only shams has said that.
It’s no different than the clippers with PG they didn’t like any of the trades so they let him walk
Jimmy has to show up and ball out to prove to teams he is worth the max
This is all business nothing personal Jimmy's got to get out of his feelings and understand Pat is doing straight business That's all this is about if he has any other issues that's on him because at the end of the day he him and Bernie lee are doing business so why can't Pat and spo and the Mickey Arisen
But Jimmy's got to understand he stirred the pot first and he doesn't hold all the cards The heat do so you don't bite the hand that feeds you
People' will always talk its a tale as old as humanity
I’m glad Pat made a statement. I disagree with Wes big time
You guys are idiots..without Riley ain’t no rings no matter what..real day one Heat fans know that..Jimmy was robbing any way..he don’t play reg season..he can kick rocks and he will cause this relationship can’t be mended.
wes is so silly. dude is coping up a storm because he doesn’t think we can compete. keep dooming bozo
Road to 15k subscribers.
Trade Bam, not Jimmy. Bam is a false advertisement. The most overrated, overpriced, underachieving max contract player is the history of sports
But we need Butler....😊
...to be mid, yes. Or, he can take a reasonable deal for his age and give them flexibility to get help so they win.
TRADE THE QUITER
Nope.
Finally you guys can stop talking about my rockets
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NOBODY is offering anything good for JIMMY....that's why RILEY came out!!!!!!!!
Bam is so bad 4 points ! I wish this organization wake up and realize they got to trade him
Bam plays like he smoking weed half the time
if jovic and ware can play together then for certain bam and ware can play together 📰🏀😤😔 herro Robinson butler bam ware.
I agree with Wes, Riley is behind the times. He needs to retire. Has not gotten any stars to come here in how long? Throwing those rings on the table don't work anymore.
He gets credit for Shaq. Big 3 and Jimmy, that was Dwyane Wade.
FOOOOOLS GOLD!~~~~~~~~~ ORL is missing their TOP players.......ORL was HORRIBLE from3...they turned the ball over and we won!!!!!!!!!! by 1!!!!!!!!!!! HEAT are mediocre!!!
2nd place.. Jimmy.. respect.. lol Bye Felicia. Riley has high standards
Just keep Jimmy even he's unhappy with the team! 🫢😆😂
I miss the time when journalism meant facts being presented as a result of research and analysis. Elite photography and speaking ability. Now it’s just two idiots in their spare bedrooms speculating and throwing rumors back and forth. This shit sucks.
David would never give Tyler most of the credit cookie because he doesn’t like him. Remember, it’s not how you start but how you finish, and Herro did made the most important shot of the game….