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The saddest thing is that Valve is still fine putting the TF2 characters into 3rd party games, they know it's a cash cow but they aren't doing shit to help the game itself
There is liteary no resone for valve not to work on this game it give them A lot of money is very popular people love it and valve just dosen't do anything for some resone
@@jansowinski6314 we all know valve even when people start talking about it alot, they still won't do shit. It makes me depressed just thinking about it. :(
I legit moved out of a house, changed my art style completely, gotten a job, and graduated within the span of time after jungle inferno. *GIVE US AN UPDATE VALVE* (Edit: I can now add cured my age old depression, and started up my first batch of youtube videos to that list.)
TF2 desperately needs some equivalent of "the flattening" era of Minecraft, where they just rework the code to be a lot more well-organized and consistent
Excep Valve doesnt give a flying shit about us Only money and the ocasional files update to remind us that they are still alive, they just chose to ignore us
Maybe a very good news (who know) a devs team is trying to make tf2 in source 2 so maybe in 6-12 months we can enjoy tf2 s2 with less bug and a better optimisation
@@lorsal That's a fan project to port the base mechanics of the game in s&box. It won't even be a game, just a fun thing to look at imagine the "what-ifs". They'll add the classes, the stock weapons, a map or two, they'll make it open source and publish the code to github and that'll be it.
Aside from the bots, I just hate the lack of consistency that the game has that could be fixed in a spring cleaning event, things like visual bugs, outdated hud images, class images, blue scout wearing red scouts pants because of a texture error, first person models like sniper with no watch and 2 gloves in first person, bad cosemtic clipping issues, bad default settings, outdated game lighting etc. All this stuff if updated and cleaned up would make the game more polished and up to date with modern standards, hell tf2c has done all these fixes and the game looks so much better and less outdated visually than base tf2
Oh man I knew something was off with blu scout’s pants. Every single other blu team member have blue pants but blu scout just have brownish pants for some reason and it looked as hell.
It took Valve months to bring tiny little updates for this bot problem, which didn't actually help. As you said. This is a muli-billion company. Why are they not fixing this problem? I don't get it. I am no game developer and know almost nothing about coding a game but it should be possible for a gigantic gaming company with plenty of talented people to fix this problem? There is barely one casual game without bots.
Because they're still making money and if they can still make money by doing nothing they will do nothing. TF2 starts getting forgotten then they'll probably do an update.
TF2 is built on spaghetti codes. One small change in anything will probably cause consequences that you wouldn't expect. Take SFM for example, anyone who tried using it for big scale projects can tell you how messy it is. Even stuff from Lazy purple behind the scenes video proves this.
I kinda felt cheated when I joined tf2 after the bot “fix” and couldn’t talk to the community. It felt just unfun to try and play when I can’t tell people to help defend my engie base or that a scout is the spy.
I played a ton before that update hit... But after? I felt distant from a game that brought back the "old-gem-of-a-game" feeling I felt with Psychonauts or Halo CE. Worse yet, you can't even use Shouts without a 5 dollar pay-wall, and the problem is, it turns TF2 from a place of "fuck around and find out" into "yankee with no yankee" for players who can't actually put money into the game. TL;DR: I have a stick up my ass after a bullshit update that is most likely starting to ruin the fun for newer players with fresher-than-fuck or fucker-than-fresh steam accounts.
@@robotizedcyborg7788 I think you can upgrade to premium by "test running" a weapon and it only costs a few cents. I can't test this myself because I was stupid and decided to upgrade to premium by buying all the Heavy weapons.
This game really needs an overhaul. It's a shame they're doing this game as dirty as they're doing. The fact it isn't optimised as well as it should and could be is really, really bad. Thanks for talking about this
I hate that the optimizations and bug fixes have been fixed for them. Team compress 2 used the source leak to fix the bugs so it’s a drag and drop for valve.
"Y'know, if I had a nickel for every time a game called TF2 was ruined by hackers and ignored by its creators, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice."
@@unoriginalname5665 are you on something? how would they get hacked by saying "tf2"? and tf2 would always be talking about team fortress 2 because team fortress 2 is better and this channel and video is literally about team fortress 2 so it would be expected for tf2 to mean team fortress 2
Tf2 source code is like spaghetti wire in a server room... To clean it up you have to get rid of everything and start all over with new code. It's unsalvageable
Tf2 (and portal) was like an extension of half life 2 showing that FPS games can still be more than run shoot duck reload kill heal repeat so that the FPS genre could be revived temporarily thanks to the orange box So what the fuck happened to it I used to love this game (Still do)
EA would make it a monetization mayhem, Ubisoft would make it a generic Third person shooter like the division, Activision...absolutely no, Bethesda would kill it in with bugs so...For now Valve is the only one who can own TF2 without killing it (or at least not as fast as the others)
one thing i like about Team Fortress 2 more than other AAA games is that it isn't a disposable cashgrab that'll get phased out in a year. I didn't mean to start a flame war.
@@4zy1 F2Ps can't chat, F2Ps can't send messages like "Help!" "incoming", F2Ps have 1 inventory space so they have to delete items to make room for more items, etc etc. I've been playing since its release, but now I quit.
It sure was there, but it was a really rare occasion that a bot sniper headshotted you. 1 out of 30 games had exclusively just 1 freakish sniper bot like that and even that was voted the fuck out of the server.
This is legitimately one of the funniest and relatable videos I have ever watched, keep in mind that this is a video game. Thanks Foekoe, we truly take you for granted
There’s 2 part time people working for TF2, there’s people who want to update it, there’s people that would try to fix the source code, but valve says to them that isn’t a major priority, they have to innovate
@@CarloBiava05 Although they got the cash there's not much of a point for them to update the game honestly, not like it'll bring in much money for them...
are you insane? people (me included) would pour waterfalls of money into the game if there was a full update, without counting that regularly updating tf2 would easily launch it into the mainstream (the youtube algorith already seems to love tf2 content, if the game was regularly updated, there would be more youtubers playing it making it more popular). A couple of years ago everyone who owned a pc for the porpuse of playing videogames would have at least tryied tf2, as of right now many more children of the younger generation own a computer, but many of them probably dont even own a steam account, a little bit more media coverage would probably introduce younger people to the game and steam
@@CarloBiava05 yeah but that money is nothing compared to how much steam makes. also valve has this policy of "work on whatever you want", which sounds good until you realize everyone wants to work on the newest and coolest valve products and not a 14 year old game with god awful spaghetti code. valve should just give the game to a different developer, but they can't be bothered for some fucking reason, it drives me nuts
Valve doesn't care about money. They own Steam. Half-life:Alyx made them barely anything and yet they're miles more interested in something like HL:A than they are in tf2. They want to innovate and in their eyes, there is absolutely nothing innovative about tf2. They're probably gonna give it the Half-Life:Source treatment and never mention it again.
2:00 The update that improved vote kicking was actually huge. Before that 1 bot was enough to kill huge parts of the enemy team and if someone tried to votekick it, it would just leave and rejoin. Now leaving during a vote is causing you to get a ban on the server and it is much harder for bots to come back to servers they've been on. I've played a few games today and evertime we encounterd a bot we kicked it and it never came back. The only exeption is when you are outnumbered by the bots but that's pretty rare.
Yes but it’s also worth mentioning that some bots join in duo’s or squads and when the vote kick is initiated the bots will vote no so they don’t get kicked out and some of them can even start a vote against actual innocent players best thing we can do at this situation is to report and try kick them
@@malone8364 Them duo queueing together isn't an issue unless it's more than 3-4 (can't seem to find a consistent number for the threshold). Once there are 4-5 bots they can't be kicked
@@marshmellowguy586 You are right, they don't get kicked. They are banned. Other bots with the same name may enter, but if a vote is called and you leave you are gonezo
Bethesda fans "the game is broken and neglected by it's devs" "NO !! IT IS AN AMAZING GAME WITH A GREAT STORY AND INTERESTING CHARACTERS HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT FAFIKJAEWIOFAWEOIJFAWIO" TF2 fans "The game is broken and neglected by it's developers." "We know."
Dude I feel so bad for tf2 rn I really wish I was in the alternate reality where valve actually cared about this game instead of leaving 3 people to do it.
Started playing TF2 recently, I legit just play on training mode a lot of the time since I'm more invested in the characters and not the actual game, also I'm bad at video games. Anyways completely unrelated, I haven't touched the comics yet but Saxton Hale fills me with a primal rage.
I haven’t played the game in many years and it’s sad to see it neglected like this, Valve is a titan in the games industry so why do they refuse to actually work on their games?
from what i've heard is that the devs in valve can choose themselfes on what project they wanna work and because the tf2 code is so fucked up nobody wants to work there
Another FPS thats being destroyed right now is Titanfall 2. The servers have been hacked and no one can play but Respawn have done nothing to try fix it.
Man they are manily focusing on apex its just sad how another master piece like titanfall 2 its being destroyed like tf2 and the thing is its just really really sad how 2 communities are waiting for a big update for years or even a small one to fix the prob but nope. And i think respawn cant really work on titanfall 2 because of EA, like they EA gets a lot of money on apex so they will make respawn mainly focus on apex legends just for the money
@@funnyvalentine3314 So now both of the community are in turmoil The titain community did hack apex and told everyone what was happing in titain fall 2 in good way by linking to a site basecaily explaing the history (Of course respond was super quick when apex got hacked) So would the tf2 community also do something simpler, like hacking steam so valve will listen.
@@lamihadamshareef5270 yeah but respawon still didnt fix the game when they did say that they are gonna fix it (that was one year ago or two years ago at this point). And it would be really hard ot hack steam
@@cotulprital0241 They did actually say they were actively looking to remedy or at the very least establish something to fight the bots. However, they are largely unsuccessful
If VALVe ever gives up on TF2, the same thing that happened to Mario Kart Wii is gonna happen to this game. And by that, I mean the Community will take care of it and fix everything. Mario Kart Wii and TF2 are one of the two games that refuse to die. And I'm all for it because I love those games.
Personally I don’t care about the cosmetics, I like that they clip, that’s just TF2, I don’t like how weapons sometimes just appear in taunts tho, it’s weird
I like cursed cosmetic combinations. I don't like when a 3000 hours in the game heavy is steamrolling our team and they wear cursed cosmetic combinations.
I tried playing yesterday with my sister and every match we joined was infested with bots. Man, this is one of my favorite games and it's unacceptable that Valve has allowed this game to end up like this
I'm pissed. For all of the same reasons you outlined here. Valve needs to fix their game if they intend on advertising as a product for consumers to enjoy. They have the resources, they can get the manpower, but they just sit there with their thumbs up their butts. It's infuriating. Seems like the only way to get shit done these days is to make a big stink about it until someone does something. I'm down for screaming at Valve for a bit.
titanfall2 and titanfall situation is even worse. They are both paid, and you can't play multiplayer beacuse of DDoS attacks. At least titanfall2 has a wonderful campain.
I'm sad that you didn't talk about the optimization. 1 year ago i could run TF2 at 60 FPS no problem but now i have to learn computer science to just optimize the game.
@@megarayquaza9054 But who wants to play with some shitty graphics config. Most people want to experience the game to the fullest with maxed out, beautiful graphics.
@@megarayquaza9054 why do i have to use other stuff in the game to make it optimized? And also its easy to you. I couldnt understand anything about configs. Its hard.
"alright, now i'm gonna play some t- okay no nevermind play don't starve instead BYE-" this is literally the exact process i took switching between the two games
The problem here is that they can probably do something, but they don't. There's a handful of community-driven updates that could genuinely be great, but Valve hasn't greenlighted any of them since... what, Jungle Inferno? Blue Moon? Invasion? I don't know anymore...
What hurts more about the anti bot fixes is that they don’t work half the time. Like a wave of bots join the server, some of the bot series won’t call a vote, whether the update or they’re not that kinda bot is a different matter, but the other bots instantly call a vote before anyone can kick them despite being there for 1 second. By the time the vote ends all the other bots are suffocating the vote system and we can’t do jack
This isn’t related to the game itself, but Tf2 has a free comic up on the Tf2 website. You wanna know the last time a story issue was made? 5 years ago, left on a cliff hanger right before the final one.
I have a plan 1. Get a riot after covid to a valve building 2. Throw eggs every day at said building annoying the developers at valve to fixx TF2 3. Play tf2 after this
hey foekoe i think you should take about bloons defense because its a love series by many and honestly hearing you commentate over games and you commentating over bloons would make me happy, thanks!
What's crazy to me is that despite all this bullshit it's STILL one of the most fun games to play, which shows just how far ahead of everything else it is and has been.
i feel like neglecting the game is such a horrible choice for valve. theyre thinking might be "ah well it's popular and we give cosmetics so theyll keep playing it and we can focus on other things," but they fail to see how nobody is having a good time and expect community creators to do everything for them. they have the power to fix everything they ever could about tf2, which would definitely be beneficial to players and valve, since the community will be more satisfied and therefore more loyal to the game, which would ofc be good for valve and its reputation to boot. but no, they would rather try to pacify and milk the community than find something that would be sustainable for everyone.
From what I've heard the 10 or less devs working on the game are all volunteers working on the game when they have free time. Honestly throw this game to the community, let us work on this and fix it for you
I would like F2P chat to be back its so hard to get friends into TF2 when they cant say anything and if we are not in a vice call we cant even communicate.
I’ve never felt more stuck in my life than when I decided to join the TF2 community back in 2016. It’s. RIDICULOUS. how little Valve cares about the health of this game
TF2Classic (the mod mentioned in the video) fixes a lot of visual inconsistencies & problems such as the Grenade Launcher having actually four barrels and being properly reloaded, Sniper's inconsistent arms First Person/Third Person arms, ugly viewmodels, BLU Scout's red pants etc. These could be easily modded/ported over to TF2 except for the Grenade Launcher, as the pipes appearing/disappearing is done via code not to mention the fact TF2 has War Paints which would probably require the modification of all War Paints when updating the model. Stuff like the Loose Cannon and Iron Bomber could get easy fixes with custom animations, which is funny since the Loch n Load got custom animations in 2014 to fix the 'dropping grenade on the ground' problem, but without making two separate reload animations for each barrel and without changing the stats back to 2 max pipes I have no idea how one would fix Loch n Load. Great video though, keep it up!
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"I fear no man, but that thing..."
*TF2 being forgotten*
"It scares me"
tf2 won't be forgotten
De Blob: "Welcome to the club !"
The fact that’s even a tf2 reference makes this comment even better
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The saddest thing is that Valve is still fine putting the TF2 characters into 3rd party games, they know it's a cash cow but they aren't doing shit to help the game itself
There is liteary no resone for valve not to work on this game it give them A lot of money is very popular people love it and valve just dosen't do anything for some resone
@@jansowinski6314 we all know valve even when people start talking about it alot, they still won't do shit. It makes me depressed just thinking about it. :(
dont forget that despite not wanting to update the game properly, they NEVER forget to do the cosmetic case updates, cuz those make them the money
Valve in general is just a shit company sadly, I think this game should be left in the hands of the community instead
It’s doubling down on the stupidity since they’d make more money by actually promoting the game instead of shoveling hats every season
I legit moved out of a house, changed my art style completely, gotten a job, and graduated within the span of time after jungle inferno. *GIVE US AN UPDATE VALVE*
(Edit: I can now add cured my age old depression, and started up my first batch of youtube videos to that list.)
Congrats man!
Ayyy congrats
Congrats!
I MOVED TO GERMANY
holy shit
TF2 desperately needs some equivalent of "the flattening" era of Minecraft, where they just rework the code to be a lot more well-organized and consistent
Excep Valve doesnt give a flying shit about us
Only money and the ocasional files update to remind us that they are still alive, they just chose to ignore us
Maybe a very good news (who know) a devs team is trying to make tf2 in source 2 so maybe in 6-12 months we can enjoy tf2 s2 with less bug and a better optimisation
@@lorsal That's a fan project to port the base mechanics of the game in s&box. It won't even be a game, just a fun thing to look at imagine the "what-ifs". They'll add the classes, the stock weapons, a map or two, they'll make it open source and publish the code to github and that'll be it.
I honestly hope thats what they've been doing this whole time cause if not that than I ain't gonna be happy abput it
reworking code might mess with mechanics people already familiar with tho
Y'know that kid that died because their school confiscated their breather thingy? Yeah, that's TF2 right now
I think it's called a puffer
Oh well
tf2 needs its inhaler
AKA actually good update
Bruh
Aside from the bots, I just hate the lack of consistency that the game has that could be fixed in a spring cleaning event, things like visual bugs, outdated hud images, class images, blue scout wearing red scouts pants because of a texture error, first person models like sniper with no watch and 2 gloves in first person, bad cosemtic clipping issues, bad default settings, outdated game lighting etc.
All this stuff if updated and cleaned up would make the game more polished and up to date with modern standards, hell tf2c has done all these fixes and the game looks so much better and less outdated visually than base tf2
the red scout with the blue scouts pants pants arent really problem, but i agree
Absolutely agree
I just noticed sniper has 2 gloves on viewmodels wtf how did I miss that???
Oh man I knew something was off with blu scout’s pants. Every single other blu team member have blue pants but blu scout just have brownish pants for some reason and it looked as hell.
I agree 100%
3000 years later: we are proud to announce we have updated the localization files and removed the sniper class
Also spy can now only walk sideways
And we announce a new class named pyro 2
We have also given heavy three more melee slots.
And scout is now as fast as a snail due to him being too fast.
Whats wrong with the sniper class
It took Valve months to bring tiny little updates for this bot problem, which didn't actually help. As you said. This is a muli-billion company. Why are they not fixing this problem? I don't get it.
I am no game developer and know almost nothing about coding a game but it should be possible for a gigantic gaming company with plenty of talented people to fix this problem? There is barely one casual game without bots.
They left us,at this point we have to make fun for ourselves with the scraps that we have left
Somehow, in Stockholm (and some other server from Europe) actually has lesser bot-filled servers, but they are still here tho
Because they're still making money and if they can still make money by doing nothing they will do nothing. TF2 starts getting forgotten then they'll probably do an update.
TF2 is built on spaghetti codes. One small change in anything will probably cause consequences that you wouldn't expect. Take SFM for example, anyone who tried using it for big scale projects can tell you how messy it is. Even stuff from Lazy purple behind the scenes video proves this.
Valve when they have to update a game: 🤬🤬🤬.
Valve when making Nintendo switch 2:😀😀
8:30 fokoe saw the future
What a diamond in the rough this channel is. Quality edits, enjoyable gags and commentary, and a mutual understanding.
I kinda felt cheated when I joined tf2 after the bot “fix” and couldn’t talk to the community. It felt just unfun to try and play when I can’t tell people to help defend my engie base or that a scout is the spy.
I played a ton before that update hit...
But after? I felt distant from a game that brought back the "old-gem-of-a-game" feeling I felt with Psychonauts or Halo CE. Worse yet, you can't even use Shouts without a 5 dollar pay-wall, and the problem is, it turns TF2 from a place of "fuck around and find out" into "yankee with no yankee" for players who can't actually put money into the game.
TL;DR: I have a stick up my ass after a bullshit update that is most likely starting to ruin the fun for newer players with fresher-than-fuck or fucker-than-fresh steam accounts.
@@robotizedcyborg7788 I think you can upgrade to premium by "test running" a weapon and it only costs a few cents. I can't test this myself because I was stupid and decided to upgrade to premium by buying all the Heavy weapons.
@@robotizedcyborg7788 if you wnat to go premium go buy a mannco key
same
Valve: Maybe you should give us more money, that’s “clearly” what we need.
This game really needs an overhaul. It's a shame they're doing this game as dirty as they're doing. The fact it isn't optimised as well as it should and could be is really, really bad. Thanks for talking about this
I hate that the optimizations and bug fixes have been fixed for them. Team compress 2 used the source leak to fix the bugs so it’s a drag and drop for valve.
"Y'know, if I had a nickel for every time a game called TF2 was ruined by hackers and ignored by its creators, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice."
Man TF2 and TF2 were such good games it is so sad to see them both just be ignored by there creators
A tf2 based on source engine
Don't leave a game's name have the word "TF2" or else it gonna be hacked
Take titanfall 2 and team fortress 2 as a example
Nice Doof reference
@@unoriginalname5665 are you on something? how would they get hacked by saying "tf2"? and tf2 would always be talking about team fortress 2 because team fortress 2 is better and this channel and video is literally about team fortress 2 so it would be expected for tf2 to mean team fortress 2
The whole reload animation thing works BEATIFULLY in TF2C
I wish one of the "old tools restore" type channels take a look at TF2 and give it a nice mirror polish
*sadly it isn’t as easy as it looks*
Tf2 source code is like spaghetti wire in a server room... To clean it up you have to get rid of everything and start all over with new code. It's unsalvageable
Tf2 (and portal) was like an extension of half life 2 showing that FPS games can still be more than run shoot duck reload kill heal repeat so that the FPS genre could be revived temporarily thanks to the orange box
So what the fuck happened to it
I used to love this game
(Still do)
Try doing stuff on a code older than most fortnite players in 2018, source code is from 2004
@@Thispersonisreal I know
@@Thispersonisreal did you really need a fortnite bad comment?
Cough halo
I remember my friend asked if this game was still being supported/updated.
I laughed for 2 whole minutes.
And cry for 2 hours
"yeah... yeah, play a single round and ask me that again."
"Or even Better, Give it away to a different developer"
Can't wait for tf2 to get redesigned like ace of spades.
EA would make it a monetization mayhem, Ubisoft would make it a generic Third person shooter like the division, Activision...absolutely no, Bethesda would kill it in with bugs so...For now Valve is the only one who can own TF2 without killing it (or at least not as fast as the others)
I want TF2 to be fixed, except one thing.
A-posing classes (like heavies) should still exist.
Yes.
Yes
honestly it should be a taunt if you ask me
Yes.
Yes.
one thing i like about Team Fortress 2 more than other AAA games is that it isn't a disposable cashgrab that'll get phased out in a year.
I didn't mean to start a flame war.
That's what all games should've been. People just want to make a quick buck these days.
Bruh moment
You sure about that
@@0trippy considering it's been like this for 14 years, yes.
@@4zy1
F2Ps can't chat, F2Ps can't send messages like "Help!" "incoming", F2Ps have 1 inventory space so they have to delete items to make room for more items, etc etc.
I've been playing since its release, but now I quit.
I love how both TF2s are completely and utterly forgotten, and basically trashed by bots.
you LOVE that?
@@altacon2901 it’s clearly sarcasm.
What's the other TF2?
@@grahamdrews9290 Titanfall 2.
Not forgotten.
Almost gone, but not forgotten.
TF2's neglect was so cursed, it affected another TF2 with a similar issue :(
I miss you wow retail
@@Vanished584 what?
@@bat6684 hes talking about OW with the steady neglect of TF2 being along simmiler lines
Isn't he talking about Titanfall 2? Idk that game is having a similar issue with TeamFortress2 rn
Titanfall 2 yea, similarly neglected with a similar bot/hacking problem
“The bot problem is older than a year” that’s an understatement. I joined TF2 9 years ago and the Bot problem was already a thing when I joined
no. the game had bots when you joined, the bot *problem* started a couple years ago
Just add a capcha
No as in they've streamlined it and the code is open source.
of course it did, it's unavoidable, the thing is it just wasn't as bad as it is now
It sure was there, but it was a really rare occasion that a bot sniper headshotted you. 1 out of 30 games had exclusively just 1 freakish sniper bot like that and even that was voted the fuck out of the server.
This is legitimately one of the funniest and relatable videos I have ever watched, keep in mind that this is a video game. Thanks Foekoe, we truly take you for granted
There’s 2 part time people working for TF2, there’s people who want to update it, there’s people that would try to fix the source code, but valve says to them that isn’t a major priority, they have to innovate
i mean they are a literal cash cow, cant they just hire more developers?
@@CarloBiava05 Although they got the cash there's not much of a point for them to update the game honestly, not like it'll bring in much money for them...
are you insane? people (me included) would pour waterfalls of money into the game if there was a full update, without counting that regularly updating tf2 would easily launch it into the mainstream (the youtube algorith already seems to love tf2 content, if the game was regularly updated, there would be more youtubers playing it making it more popular). A couple of years ago everyone who owned a pc for the porpuse of playing videogames would have at least tryied tf2, as of right now many more children of the younger generation own a computer, but many of them probably dont even own a steam account, a little bit more media coverage would probably introduce younger people to the game and steam
@@CarloBiava05 yeah but that money is nothing compared to how much steam makes. also valve has this policy of "work on whatever you want", which sounds good until you realize everyone wants to work on the newest and coolest valve products and not a 14 year old game with god awful spaghetti code. valve should just give the game to a different developer, but they can't be bothered for some fucking reason, it drives me nuts
Valve doesn't care about money. They own Steam. Half-life:Alyx made them barely anything and yet they're miles more interested in something like HL:A than they are in tf2. They want to innovate and in their eyes, there is absolutely nothing innovative about tf2. They're probably gonna give it the Half-Life:Source treatment and never mention it again.
2:00 The update that improved vote kicking was actually huge. Before that 1 bot was enough to kill huge parts of the enemy team and if someone tried to votekick it, it would just leave and rejoin. Now leaving during a vote is causing you to get a ban on the server and it is much harder for bots to come back to servers they've been on. I've played a few games today and evertime we encounterd a bot we kicked it and it never came back. The only exeption is when you are outnumbered by the bots but that's pretty rare.
Yes but it’s also worth mentioning that some bots join in duo’s or squads and when the vote kick is initiated the bots will vote no so they don’t get kicked out and some of them can even start a vote against actual innocent players best thing we can do at this situation is to report and try kick them
Nope bots can leave during a vote without getting kicked. The update doesn't even do its main function
@@malone8364 Them duo queueing together isn't an issue unless it's more than 3-4 (can't seem to find a consistent number for the threshold). Once there are 4-5 bots they can't be kicked
@@marshmellowguy586 You are right, they don't get kicked. They are banned. Other bots with the same name may enter, but if a vote is called and you leave you are gonezo
@@Tom-H1 it says not enough people voted and it says vote failed
Time for however long the video is to smile while also nodding in agreement
For the meantime, let’s all run outside of valves headquarters holding signs with sandviches and yelling about a heavy update
I’ve been playing since the love and war update in 2014 or so and to see a childhood classic go to waste is just depressing
Bethesda fans
"the game is broken and neglected by it's devs" "NO !! IT IS AN AMAZING GAME WITH A GREAT STORY AND INTERESTING CHARACTERS HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT FAFIKJAEWIOFAWEOIJFAWIO"
TF2 fans
"The game is broken and neglected by it's developers." "We know."
everyone else has a panic attack when hear that
we're just like "NO SHIT"
@@Nighto We’ve been waiting for four years and valve keeps shoveling hats into the game instead of fixing it
"The game is broken!"
"We know!"
"Why is it?"
"We don't know!"
"I will find CLUES!"
*Notices Spaghetti Code*
"What's that?"
"A trash! That thing is why that game is broken!"
"Agh!"
"....iiincooOOOOMMIIIIIINNNG"
*CRASH*
"Raus Raus!"
@@combineadvisorwithinternet6040
*smooches*
*Team comtress 2*
-hahahaha. I'm
*Forgotten by the majority*
Dude I feel so bad for tf2 rn I really wish I was in the alternate reality where valve actually cared about this game instead of leaving 3 people to do it.
“I’m a sucker for reload animations” *doesn’t mention Modern Warfare 2019 animations*
Hurts my feelins every time.
Started playing TF2 recently, I legit just play on training mode a lot of the time since I'm more invested in the characters and not the actual game, also I'm bad at video games.
Anyways completely unrelated, I haven't touched the comics yet but Saxton Hale fills me with a primal rage.
@synuś Vader Yep.
you should totally read the comics, they're a fun experience
also valve please i've been waiting for a "the naked and the dead" sequel a long time ago
@@cotulprital0241 Oh yeah I def want to read em, but with school starting soon I'll just need to find the time lol
I haven’t played the game in many years and it’s sad to see it neglected like this, Valve is a titan in the games industry so why do they refuse to actually work on their games?
from what i've heard is that the devs in valve can choose themselfes on what project they wanna work and because the tf2 code is so fucked up nobody wants to work there
*"STARS AND STRIPES BEATS HAMMER AND SICKLE LOOK IT UP"*
STOP COMMENTING ON TH-cam SOLDIER! THERE IS A RED SPY IN THE BASE!!!
THERE IS A RED SPY IN THE BASE?
Stand back sin 111
@@sub1e655 (epic tf2 music starts)
WE NEET TO PROTECT THE BRIEFCASE
as a wise man once said.
"this will be great"
as a wise man once said 16 minutes before your post.
"this will be great"
hi niko
@@redbonky2749 that's the wise men, he indeed was wise, yes
Yet anther wise man said,
"Nice hustle tons of fun, next time try eating a salad
Hey nice pfp
Another FPS thats being destroyed right now is Titanfall 2. The servers have been hacked and no one can play but Respawn have done nothing to try fix it.
Man they are manily focusing on apex its just sad how another master piece like titanfall 2 its being destroyed like tf2 and the thing is its just really really sad how 2 communities are waiting for a big update for years or even a small one to fix the prob but nope. And i think respawn cant really work on titanfall 2 because of EA, like they EA gets a lot of money on apex so they will make respawn mainly focus on apex legends just for the money
So... both TF2 are broken?
@@funnyvalentine3314 So now both of the community are in turmoil
The titain community did hack apex and told everyone what was happing in titain fall 2 in good way by linking to a site basecaily explaing the history
(Of course respond was super quick when apex got hacked)
So would the tf2 community also do something simpler, like hacking steam so valve will listen.
@@lamihadamshareef5270 yeah but respawon still didnt fix the game when they did say that they are gonna fix it (that was one year ago or two years ago at this point). And it would be really hard ot hack steam
The two TF2's are in pain.
1:13
Stockholm syndrome
noun
feelings of trust or affection felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim towards a captor.
TF2 players: pls fix the game
Valve: *here's a durian*
Valve: "can I offer you a cosmetic case in these trying times"
Me:
doug doug refrence
we could finally fix the bot problem and the game as a whole
*OR I COULD ADD ANOTHER COMMUNITY COSMETIC CASE INTO THE GAME*
@@cotulprital0241 They did actually say they were actively looking to remedy or at the very least establish something to fight the bots. However, they are largely unsuccessful
you don't say
this will be great
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"The abuse of TF2"
Meanwhile, the other TF2: 💀
oh THAT tf2
Oh yeah that
Uhhhhhh
Titan fall 2 is kinda unplayable at this point
I prefer this tf2
Both tf2s are dying and it sucks
“If you know what is good for you, you will run”
-Sniper/Heavy bots
Vac medic time
Ironically a soldier quote
If VALVe ever gives up on TF2, the same thing that happened to Mario Kart Wii is gonna happen to this game.
And by that, I mean the Community will take care of it and fix everything.
Mario Kart Wii and TF2 are one of the two games that refuse to die. And I'm all for it because I love those games.
Recently got into this game a lot and surprisingly all of these issues barely effected my experience because the game is generally really fun
Personally I don’t care about the cosmetics, I like that they clip, that’s just TF2, I don’t like how weapons sometimes just appear in taunts tho, it’s weird
Agreed
i enjoy each and every weird/funny glitch the game has
I like cursed cosmetic combinations. I don't like when a 3000 hours in the game heavy is steamrolling our team and they wear cursed cosmetic combinations.
I tried playing yesterday with my sister and every match we joined was infested with bots.
Man, this is one of my favorite games and it's unacceptable that Valve has allowed this game to end up like this
I'm pissed. For all of the same reasons you outlined here. Valve needs to fix their game if they intend on advertising as a product for consumers to enjoy. They have the resources, they can get the manpower, but they just sit there with their thumbs up their butts. It's infuriating.
Seems like the only way to get shit done these days is to make a big stink about it until someone does something. I'm down for screaming at Valve for a bit.
That ain’t even gonna work mate.
LEEET'SS DUEET.
can i join?
titanfall2 and titanfall situation is even worse. They are both paid, and you can't play multiplayer beacuse of DDoS attacks. At least titanfall2 has a wonderful campain.
8:29 "MAYBE????? PROBABLY WONT DO ANYTHING"
lol
just found your channel and this is honestly one of the most underatted channels on youtube keep on making great videos bro
I'm sad that you didn't talk about the optimization. 1 year ago i could run TF2 at 60 FPS no problem but now i have to learn computer science to just optimize the game.
Configs exists and they're pretty easy to install
@@megarayquaza9054 But who wants to play with some shitty graphics config. Most people want to experience the game to the fullest with maxed out, beautiful graphics.
@@sycolix better quantity than quality
@@megarayquaza9054 You shouldn't have to rely on a shitty config for a game that's 14 years old.
@@megarayquaza9054 why do i have to use other stuff in the game to make it optimized? And also its easy to you. I couldnt understand anything about configs. Its hard.
ngl back then it was so fun to just say stuff while playing and mess with raging kids playing spy in the chat
and now i can't even call for medic
the sad life of a free to play
I'm pretty sure pressing e with default binds let's you call for medic.
cant wait for the next major update :)))))
Me too kid, me too
Trust me guys heavy update will come out tomorrow my dads friends cousin is gabe newell
@@waddleking9165 lol
@@waddleking9165 BROOO REALLY???? CANT WAIT
"Like that's ever gonna happen"
-shreky senpai
A lot of the melees look like they just used SWEP Construction Kit to "make" a new skin.
You were so much ahead of time its incredible
"alright, now i'm gonna play some t- okay no nevermind play don't starve instead BYE-"
this is literally the exact process i took switching between the two games
TF|2 and TF2: getting killed by hackers and bots
their respective companies: abandoning it for money
Foekoe has to do a video about Titanfall2
@@wsiur_gaming too bad the game is severely underrated. I hope he does though.
gay
@@sage99274 not underratted, underplayed.
@@wsiur_gaming yeah
7:50 to 8:50 love the pikuniku music
great its funny rtd2
Hey it's that one robot that once spammed Foekoe's channel with that one little cute game
The problem here is that they can probably do something, but they don't. There's a handful of community-driven updates that could genuinely be great, but Valve hasn't greenlighted any of them since... what, Jungle Inferno? Blue Moon? Invasion? I don't know anymore...
They probaly aren't gonna do anything because they are making alot of money even without updating it so they don't care about updating it.
That stutter when you talked about your old TF2 video was so good I started doubting it's scripted
"You cannot burn me! I do not have time to combust!"
This man is speaking so much facts, that he is speaking for the community
These arent exactly new issues that he brought up.
@@nologichere8764 he don't brought up new issues, but the most "controversial" issues
as a wise man once said
yes we do have updates for team fortress 2
You forgot about music bots. If they dont kill your ears, nothing else does. But it's a very good video, congrats!
What hurts more about the anti bot fixes is that they don’t work half the time. Like a wave of bots join the server, some of the bot series won’t call a vote, whether the update or they’re not that kinda bot is a different matter, but the other bots instantly call a vote before anyone can kick them despite being there for 1 second. By the time the vote ends all the other bots are suffocating the vote system and we can’t do jack
The fact the censoring is a red herring makes me so happy
Agreed
ITs a red herring....
@@esqx0878 its a fish
@@usernametaken017 and red herring is the name of that fish....
I want to say that the dev team are trying their best to make tf2 playable. It's valve who we have to blame not updating VAC.
I never touched this game in my life, but this is seriously sad
You're missing out
mf predicted the future
This isn’t related to the game itself, but Tf2 has a free comic up on the Tf2 website. You wanna know the last time a story issue was made? 5 years ago, left on a cliff hanger right before the final one.
today is my birthday, and this video about tf2 is a good present for me :)
yoo nice happy bday (i hope this isnt a fake birthday or something)
@@vlaisca2 no its really my birthday, my parents got me 2 vol from the manga bersek, i recomend it
happy birthday
Oh cool, happy bday (:
It’s my birthday too
Remember that one time when Valve took the Fan Fixes for TF2 code and implemented them to DotA?
Wait that happen
bruh momento
I have a plan
1. Get a riot after covid to a valve building
2. Throw eggs every day at said building annoying the developers at valve to fixx TF2
3. Play tf2 after this
I’m gonna drive to a valve headquarters and A-pose outside in my armor until someone comes out to ask what I’m doing
@@okamithewanderingwolf172 you sound like a 10 year old
just do a kazotsky party in front of the headquarters
they'll get the message
@@hazmatbp It's a cardboard fursuit worn over sweatpants and a trenchcoat, I'd rather call it armor.
hey foekoe i think you should take about bloons defense because its a love series by many and honestly hearing you commentate over games and you commentating over bloons would make me happy, thanks!
Nice video you deserve more views with the amount of effort you put in editing
You, my good man, are the symbol with every tf2 player's distress.
“The game not getting any big boy updates in what, 4 years……..”
Meanwhile tf2 Xbox players
What's crazy to me is that despite all this bullshit it's STILL one of the most fun games to play, which shows just how far ahead of everything else it is and has been.
i feel like neglecting the game is such a horrible choice for valve. theyre thinking might be "ah well it's popular and we give cosmetics so theyll keep playing it and we can focus on other things," but they fail to see how nobody is having a good time and expect community creators to do everything for them. they have the power to fix everything they ever could about tf2, which would definitely be beneficial to players and valve, since the community will be more satisfied and therefore more loyal to the game, which would ofc be good for valve and its reputation to boot. but no, they would rather try to pacify and milk the community than find something that would be sustainable for everyone.
Were all going through the five stages of grief
From what I've heard the 10 or less devs working on the game are all volunteers working on the game when they have free time. Honestly throw this game to the community, let us work on this and fix it for you
What both TF2 and TF|2 have in common: Devs who dont give a shit about the game 🤝
This is gonna be a good one, cant wait since im addicted to tf2
I would like F2P chat to be back its so hard to get friends into TF2 when they cant say anything and if we are not in a vice call we cant even communicate.
I’ve never felt more stuck in my life than when I decided to join the TF2 community back in 2016.
It’s. RIDICULOUS. how little Valve cares about the health of this game
"I love tf2, and i miss it"
Funke
Indeed Mate.
Man just the way he said it in the video, it really hits hard
Nothing is more disheartening than joining a tf2 server and then someone with your exact same name joins 5 minutes later
Yeah I once played ctf when I healed my teammate I realized he have my name
they patched that now afaik
How about joining a game with like 5 bots that automatically take your name then kick you in the span of like 10 seconds
It's always fun when 4 snipers join a game, look up all the time, follow someone, blast music through chat, and somehow the text chat doesn't work.
If you mean the chat going blank, it's spamming spaces - if you open the console and scroll up, you can see exactly who is doing it
I like how the edits are similar to Battleblocks theater cutscenes. Probably not done on purpose but the script writing is good too. It's just cool.
TF2Classic (the mod mentioned in the video) fixes a lot of visual inconsistencies & problems such as the Grenade Launcher having actually four barrels and being properly reloaded, Sniper's inconsistent arms First Person/Third Person arms, ugly viewmodels, BLU Scout's red pants etc.
These could be easily modded/ported over to TF2 except for the Grenade Launcher, as the pipes appearing/disappearing is done via code not to mention the fact TF2 has War Paints which would probably require the modification of all War Paints when updating the model.
Stuff like the Loose Cannon and Iron Bomber could get easy fixes with custom animations, which is funny since the Loch n Load got custom animations in 2014 to fix the 'dropping grenade on the ground' problem, but without making two separate reload animations for each barrel and without changing the stats back to 2 max pipes I have no idea how one would fix Loch n Load. Great video though, keep it up!
Luckily, I installed both TF2C and OF before VALVe did a bit of trolling.
Remember, blame VALVE for letting this game fall, not those 2 and a half of Valve employes who are sacrificing their free time to work on this game
Uhh… what do you mean with half
@@Dumb_ shhhhhhh, *you ask too many questions…*
TF2 is a great game in the hands of the wrong company
The right game in the wrong company makes all the difference in the world
@@unoriginalname5665 So wake up! Wake up and… smell the updates
I guess the 3 hour wait is all worth it for a new foekoe video
Congrats on your 100th video foekoe :)
When he talked about the bots the Titanfall situation popped into my head and I can relate to it, hope your game gets fixed.
TF2 and TF|2 are getting destroyed by bots
8:30 aged well
it really is tragic how little attention tf2 is getting from valve, despite the player numbers being higher then ever
Funke's words
@@atipicotopo6228 i miss tf2
I miss both TF2s its so sad how both companies constantly do nothing about their games
@@adowi139 what's the other tf2?
@@tomw3863 titanfall 2
when valve has parallels to yandere dev you know something is wrong
The way valve will “fix” the bot problem is by deleting sniper
“Make a hashtag” your wish is valves command this time