"I was there!" Lol thank you big John. Loving MMA, I'm always searching for answers. And Ive found you to be a well of unbiased answers thank you Big John.
This is a better podcast than TFATK. Big John and Luke Thomas both said they have dirt on Ariel. I'm not sure what that means but I'd love to hear them.
@@lugzj3696 in my opinion, Luke is the most respectable online MMA personality. I believe both him and Ariel will always ask the tough questions and won't shy away from conflict. Where they differ is that Ariel always has an agenda against the UFC. He'll always ask those leading questions at the start of the interview to try and lure fighters into talking shit about the UFC or other fighters. Remember when Nick Diaz said, "that'll get you smacked?" Nick saw right through the bullshit.
@@dannyh5937 That is a pretty accurate depiction of both of them. I respect Luke way more. Ariel is like a cross between a journalist and a TMZ reporter. I am glad you said MMA personality because if Luke heard you say he was a journalist, he might just give you a Stockton slap in honor of the Diaz bros.... lol
@@lugzj3696 neither one of them are reporters or journalists. Their shows are made for entertainment purposes. Luke will obviously go much deeper and do a better job breaking down fights and showing technique. Where I believe they both fail is that they don't dig deep or do any investigative journalism. Does that make sense? They're great at fight recaps and before the fight commentary but all that is basic and vanilla journalism. I'd love a deep look into what's going on at Jackson Wink and why fighters are leaving. Know what I mean?
@@dannyh5937 You are right. Even tho Ariel does have a journalism degree. He does not really use it. And Luke understands technique and transitions. I am pretty sure i would not enjoy Ariel breaking down fights... lol Yeah the whole JacksonWink thing has fascinated me since before the Cowboy Perry fight. From a far, it seems that Winklejohn does not have much loyalty, and values money over everything. I could be wrong. But a lot of fighters seem to be saying a similar thing. No one seems to have a problem with Greg Jackson, but a lot of fighters seem to have a problem with Winklejohn. Who fucking knows where the truth lies....
Big John is the most credible source on the history of the ufc, more so than any owner, journalist or fighter; as his experience was unique and is absent of many of the biases that occur with other figures in the sport. And the guy is just an honest person.
Big John is THE authority on MMA. I know that Ariel had to watch him on JRE talking about the early days like he did in this video. It is important to get the absolute truth out now so that the history of MMA doesn't turn out like all of the religions in the world when 2000 years from now people believe that a person walked on water.
- we don't need 2,000 years , give me a gullible person like yourself and 5 minutes and I'll have you thinking Anderson Silva hovered during his fights
Damn, this was extremely enlightening. Big John needs to write a book. One more thing: You guys need to stop apologizing for telling the truth. Helwani is using a slimy tactic of trying to take the focus off the matter and onto his feelings to avoid the fact that he's a lying piece of trash who plays the role of journalist but is really just a UFC mouthpiece. The dude's a conniver who uses his 'nice guy' persona to make people look bad or feel bad when he gets upset.
One book would not be enough. You could literally write a whole book just on this episode about early ufc regulations. Another book stritctly on his funny/weird stories. Another about mma itself, refereeing it, teaching it. Plus a proper biography.
Ariel is a professional antagonist. Absolutely despise his MMA coverage, attitude and all of it. So many better journalists and MMA minds out there. Two of them are on this podcast.
John is an MMA historian and was there from the beginning, way before Dana was involved in MMA, all he wants is the history of the UFC to be told correctly, both good and bad. Dana is a boss and off course he wants to paint his business in a curtain way to protect the UFC brand.
Angel Vazquez Dana’s been there just as long as big John. He wasn’t involved with the company in the beginning. He managed Tito Ortiz for a short time and Chuck Liddell as well
I mean... Zuffa got it regulated tho. John wants so much credit for shit like bro you were a ref and made a couple rules FUCKING RELAX! Why did Artie sell the ufc if they was gonna get the sport regulated?!?
Ariel Helwani needs to know his place and respect the OG's like big John McCarthy. Sometimes, ariel tends to get ahead of himself and someone alpha needs to put him his place like Dana and big John did lol
Sherdog is still the best forum and best place to get unbiased info i find. Big John and Thompson know their stuff and are awesome! I wanna hear about all the skeletons in the closet these two talk about off camera :p
Blanco Diablo believe it or not being koed stiff and being technical tkoed when you could have continued fighting are 2 different things. I know crazy right🧐
I love seeing big john going on and doing bigger and better things, but man I miss him as a ref. I miss Brian Stann as a commentator too, most people don’t even remember his work as a commentator, but I think he’s one of the best ever at that position.
Ariel is obviously a sensitive guy which is going to put him in a position to be made fun of in a very alpha male tough guy sport. He makes mistakes but it’s pretty hard from what I’ve observed for him to admit those mistakes. That I find the most frustrating. Still a fan though
Come on talk about the early days of UFC! No need to out someone but it would really differentiate you guys from others. Some stories would be great. Besides this is something other podcasts can't do because they weren't there. Currently, it's Schaub having assistant feed him headlines while he regurgitates half-watched Luke Thomas video. Chael talking everyone and every fight up and exploring angles on fighters. Serra and Norton sucking up to whoever is the guest currently. Bisping and Gomez doing headlines and discussing what they were up to today in excruciating length.
U can tell big john cares alot about the quality of his product. Ive never seen a podcaster have those noise canceling panels. I can appreciate the effort, great talk guys
Hey guys enjoy the podcast, just want to to correct something you said John, Jeff Novitzky has NEVER worked for USADA. He was a federal agent during the BALCO scandal, and was hired by the UFC in 2015 as Vice President of Athlete Health & Performance to manage the UFC's anti-doping program. Just wanted to give a heads up, for some reason a lot of people still think that Novitzky is or was a USADA employee. Cheers
To Ariels defense, he is saying what he's been told by others. He wasn't there, he was asked the questions. Maybe John should've been on that 30 for 30 answering those questions. I think he's making this a much bigger of a deal than it really is.
Rose City Sneakers hell naw, Brett is a softball pitcher, I wouldn’t even call him a reporter, he’s pretty much a sideline reporter at an nba/nfl game, no substance
Thanks John…If it was not for John, veteran MMA fans would have nobody to refere to for the truth about MMA history and timeline, ive told this same story to newbies and they look at me like im tryint to change the story. UFC is a propaganda Machine and with Nevinsky/Golden Snitch in there wallet there is no way we will know if all fighters are clean or or OK SOME fighters use IV or other PEDS to become champs for UFC profit….Its fucked …..Corperations and Politicians work the same GREAT Lie. very strange.
jBird I’d be with you if guys like Usman and Blaydes and others weren’t champions or top 3-5. Those dudes don’t draw any fan interest which means no money. If they wanted to choose their top guys don’t you think they’d have more Conor McGregor type personalities they could promote
20+ min clip and I’m still not clear on what specifically BJM is saying was so inaccurate about the statement? Saying Zuffa ran towards regulation doesn’t automatically imply there wasn’t any regulation in place or that they were anti-regulation prior to Zuffa taking over, to me it just means they made it a top priority.
This is just a relevancy thing. Make a statement that you know will get a response from big John. Iron it out and say it was a misunderstanding in the end... All of the MMA news outlets will write about this and boost his views on his new shows.
"Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I came to hate them"- A.H
changing the PPV model is what kept conor away so long, and why Dana is right when he says he's not the man anymore. The UFC doesn't give a sh*t about numbers anymore because of the contract. Imagine how many people would tune into a ppv to see conor lose, HUGE numbers!
Amen 🙏 Big John! The Truth. Maybe one day we'll get the sorta behind the scenes or a cool book by yourself. However, it'll never be let out because of the UFC. It's nuts.... Love ya, brother! ✔
I was never a fan of Ariel. I appreciate what he's done for the sport of MMA. He's just such a blatant manipulator I can't tolerate his interviews anymore.
I never knew that Fertita did that. From Dana and his side of things, I am sure that it was an angel situation for UFC in providing capital and guaranteed approval in Nevada. They make it sound bad but it's who you know in business.
Maybe ppl have regurgitated it wrong. But the point has been that "Zuffa ran towards regulation, not away from it" idk if ariel just said it wrong but thats how ive always herd and understood it. Not to do with anyone else just zuffa was more towards regualting then not (realizing would be profitable) regardless what the previous or next owners did or will do
Also, helwani has done well for himself and his style is to stir up some controversy. He goes for drama over depth. I don’t pay much attention to him but he’s ok.
Josh tell John he needs to write a book about the behind the scenes and birth of the UFC from the beginning until he left. It would be a best seller for sure 🤙🏼
CutTheKnot no no. He’s not a founder of the ufc. He absolutely helped out in getting mma sanctioned but he wasn’t a founder my friend. He even says that
Thanks to Big John Mcarthy the UFC is where it is and his story is always the story I tell people when they think MMA is to rough or shouldnt be allowed. Like another comment said he needs to write a book.
Love the video. But...the basis of the convo is about getting the facts straight and yet you guys said Novitzky worked for USADA, which is incorrect. He worked for the FDA which is not USADA. So point well taken, but also ironic.
Die he Not work for usada when USADA began to work with the UFC and than moved on to be employed by the UFC directly to manage their relationship with USADA? That's how I understood it.
The history of MMA is important. Therefore, Big John is important. Because 1) that history likely cannot be written without his name, and 2) he probably knows more & more about that history than ANYone else.
10:35 my heart drops did I just waste my time listening to this whole video when Big John McCarthy actually admits that he doesn't know exactly recount exactly what Ariel helwani exactly said or was being asked. You know why most reporters don't look into it whenever Ariel helwani reports anyting ? it it's because he's usually about 95% right whenever he announces anything. And he is well known for never giving up his sources and is exactly why he has sources. He has years of credibility which I agree with your point might give him some leniency but he has earned that respect.
as soon as UFC does their fighters wrong , Ariel is the only platform that will give them a chance to defend yourself and fight back . if UFC wants to keep secrets its ok ,but dont expect Journalists to do so . still disgusting that a millionaire like White makes it his mission to ruin Ariel and his family . White should be happy with his own archievements and stop building performance institutes everywhere from money that should have gone to fighters as salary.
Ariel was in journalism school while big John was in court fighting for the sport of MMA and Big John still has more hair than Ariel in 2020!!! 10-9 Mccarthy. "Let's get it on"!!!!
I gotta be honest. At first i thought, who the fuck is this clown. BUT! The Schmo won me over pretty quickly. I get way more excited about a 3-5 minute Schmo interview, than a 20-30 minute Ariel interview.
Big John is one of, if not, the most straight forward and integral person in the entirety of MMA. Absolute legend.
very true sir.. but more importantly:
Big John: 3/2 REYES
Josh Thompson. 4/1 REYES 😎
He's up there no doubt!
Facts big John is a fucking legend 💯
Without John there would be no MMA
Maybe it has to due with Big John once being an officer of the law. Don't believe me, just look into it.
Big John needs to write a tell all book!
He has. I own it.
@@Diesel257 Is it good?
Was just thinking that
I think big john knows some things that might really screw him if he did.
ShizNick Eskimo cousins?
Man. An unbiased book or documentary about the history of MMA would be amazing.
No Holds Barred by Clyde Gentry
Big john McCarthy a G
Rodrigo Meraz an OG
Nah he's a cop
Eddie LM La?
John "you Weren't there man" Mccarthy
Big John: YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS ARIEL... YOU DON'T.. HAVE THE ANSWERS!!!!
Ariel needs to go on Joe Rogan. Comment section would be crazy.
E.T.A. is NOW facts! I’m surprised he hasn’t been a guest yet esp bc he’s in the ufc/mma scene
Rogan fucking hates Helwani! He would NEVER have him on!
@@internettoughguy2030 no he doesnt. he also knows and likes ariels uncle gaad saad
Internet Tough Guy why do you say that? I’m just curious I don’t care much for Helwani myself.
No, thanks. Why the fuck would I want to listen to that pussy for 3 hours?
If anyone knows big John does, he’s been there through it all.
Yeah he was a ref though. Wasent like he was in the board room making business decisions.
@@mr.eastcoastgrow6132 Watch some more of the podcast and you'll know that he was much more than just a ref. Especially in the earlier days of the UFC
"I was there!" Lol thank you big John. Loving MMA, I'm always searching for answers. And Ive found you to be a well of unbiased answers thank you Big John.
This is a better podcast than TFATK.
Big John and Luke Thomas both said they have dirt on Ariel. I'm not sure what that means but I'd love to hear them.
Luke also said when he brought the live chat back that he is not about gossip. So you are never going to hear what 'dirt' he has on Ariel.
@@lugzj3696 in my opinion, Luke is the most respectable online MMA personality. I believe both him and Ariel will always ask the tough questions and won't shy away from conflict. Where they differ is that Ariel always has an agenda against the UFC. He'll always ask those leading questions at the start of the interview to try and lure fighters into talking shit about the UFC or other fighters. Remember when Nick Diaz said, "that'll get you smacked?" Nick saw right through the bullshit.
@@dannyh5937 That is a pretty accurate depiction of both of them. I respect Luke way more. Ariel is like a cross between a journalist and a TMZ reporter. I am glad you said MMA personality because if Luke heard you say he was a journalist, he might just give you a Stockton slap in honor of the Diaz bros.... lol
@@lugzj3696 neither one of them are reporters or journalists. Their shows are made for entertainment purposes. Luke will obviously go much deeper and do a better job breaking down fights and showing technique. Where I believe they both fail is that they don't dig deep or do any investigative journalism.
Does that make sense? They're great at fight recaps and before the fight commentary but all that is basic and vanilla journalism. I'd love a deep look into what's going on at Jackson Wink and why fighters are leaving. Know what I mean?
@@dannyh5937 You are right. Even tho Ariel does have a journalism degree. He does not really use it. And Luke understands technique and transitions. I am pretty sure i would not enjoy Ariel breaking down fights... lol Yeah the whole JacksonWink thing has fascinated me since before the Cowboy Perry fight. From a far, it seems that Winklejohn does not have much loyalty, and values money over everything. I could be wrong. But a lot of fighters seem to be saying a similar thing. No one seems to have a problem with Greg Jackson, but a lot of fighters seem to have a problem with Winklejohn. Who fucking knows where the truth lies....
Big John is who Ben Affleck dreams of being when he grows up.
Lmaooo that’s a good one
Big John is the most credible source on the history of the ufc, more so than any owner, journalist or fighter; as his experience was unique and is absent of many of the biases that occur with other figures in the sport. And the guy is just an honest person.
Helwani grates on me and I think on a lot of other people, too.
Hes a dick. More interested in the soap opera, or causing one, around a fight than actual fights
Definitely corny
Hes a WWE mark who transfered his markness to the MMA world.......
He makes a potential great 5 minute interview into a 20 minute snoozefest
Excellent, John. Truth speak. Thank goodness.
Big John is THE authority on MMA. I know that Ariel had to watch him on JRE talking about the early days like he did in this video. It is important to get the absolute truth out now so that the history of MMA doesn't turn out like all of the religions in the world when 2000 years from now people believe that a person walked on water.
YNWA
- we don't need 2,000 years , give me a gullible person like yourself and 5 minutes and I'll have you thinking Anderson Silva hovered during his fights
Damn, this was extremely enlightening. Big John needs to write a book. One more thing: You guys need to stop apologizing for telling the truth. Helwani is using a slimy tactic of trying to take the focus off the matter and onto his feelings to avoid the fact that he's a lying piece of trash who plays the role of journalist but is really just a UFC mouthpiece. The dude's a conniver who uses his 'nice guy' persona to make people look bad or feel bad when he gets upset.
One book would not be enough. You could literally write a whole book just on this episode about early ufc regulations. Another book stritctly on his funny/weird stories. Another about mma itself, refereeing it, teaching it. Plus a proper biography.
Bad Bart typical Joo!
he did write a book.
@@TheChadxiii No shit, I'm going to have to grab a copy then. Thanks
If Ariel was a UFC mouthpiece him and Dana would've never had issues lol
12:30 who else wants to see Stephan Thompson vs wonder boy.
Big John's integrity cannot be questioned! Can't say the same about Ariel's.
He was a cop so he forfeited his integrity
Daniel Sepulveda ok dad
@@michaellennox1229 He's got real integrity, you wouldn't know anything about that.
Ariel is a professional antagonist. Absolutely despise his MMA coverage, attitude and all of it. So many better journalists and MMA minds out there. Two of them are on this podcast.
agree, never liked the guy, to me he always looked fake and pretentious
I agree. He’s like an eternal high school nerd who desperately wanted the jocks to like him and he loves stirring up shit like a teenager.
why? because he actually asks hard hitting questions and isnt danas lapdog like other journalists?
I think one of the major reasons people dislike Ariel is the same reason they hate Izzy
Denial of attraction
@@PronatorTendon Izzy has talent lol.
Ariel's gonna need more tissues after watching this
Looks like the UFC trolls and bots are in full effect in the comment section.
Bad Bart stfu
I found Big John always consistent and unbiased when he is discussing the history of UFC. even in JRE or TCOWHN
John is an MMA historian and was there from the beginning, way before Dana was involved in MMA, all he wants is the history of the UFC to be told correctly, both good and bad. Dana is a boss and off course he wants to paint his business in a curtain way to protect the UFC brand.
Angel Vazquez Dana’s been there just as long as big John. He wasn’t involved with the company in the beginning. He managed Tito Ortiz for a short time and Chuck Liddell as well
Love these guys. This is my new favorite MMA podcast lol
Great idea to pull clips, love the content as always appreciate it guys!
Big John the T.K. Kirkland of the UFC
Lol i dont think alot of mma fans gunna get this 😂
Vlad😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol 😂
T.K. Kirkland told Big John he oughtta try being a ref.
"Dana was never my friend" -TK Kirkland
I mean... Zuffa got it regulated tho. John wants so much credit for shit like bro you were a ref and made a couple rules FUCKING RELAX! Why did Artie sell the ufc if they was gonna get the sport regulated?!?
Ariel Helwani needs to know his place and respect the OG's like big John McCarthy. Sometimes, ariel tends to get ahead of himself and someone alpha needs to put him his place like Dana and big John did lol
Big John is a national treasure
Sherdog is still the best forum and best place to get unbiased info i find. Big John and Thompson know their stuff and are awesome! I wanna hear about all the skeletons in the closet these two talk about off camera :p
LMAO
Did I really just read that.
Josh Thompson is a damn legend
Edit: only man to knock out nate diaz
Tko not ko. Go back and watch, he wasn’t out just heavily rocked. He could have continued
Smoke Break MMA 😭😭😭 your boy was done. Get over it.
@@smokebreakmma6524 believe it or not both tko and ko are acronyms with knock out in them, crazy right
Smoke Break MMA in real life Nate would have been dead
Blanco Diablo believe it or not being koed stiff and being technical tkoed when you could have continued fighting are 2 different things. I know crazy right🧐
I love seeing big john going on and doing bigger and better things, but man I miss him as a ref. I miss Brian Stann as a commentator too, most people don’t even remember his work as a commentator, but I think he’s one of the best ever at that position.
Big John should write a tell all book. That would be a top seller 100%
Write a book John. MMA fans need to hear
Ariel Helwani saying dumb shit and pissing off UFC icons? No Way! 🤣😂
Ariel is obviously a sensitive guy which is going to put him in a position to be made fun of in a very alpha male tough guy sport. He makes mistakes but it’s pretty hard from what I’ve observed for him to admit those mistakes. That I find the most frustrating. Still a fan though
1st time listener.. great show, I definitely liked & subscribed !!
Love John...he was in it from the very beginning. Can never replace the practical experience of ACTUALLY BEING THERE!
What's insane is the pay-per-view numbers now since ESPN are invisible they're solo the UFC doesn't even broadcast them anymore
Blaming Ariel for Dana Whites BS is really stupid. I expect better from John.
Ariel is one of those guys that his name basically describes his real life demeanor.... GIRLY
Come on talk about the early days of UFC! No need to out someone but it would really differentiate you guys from others.
Some stories would be great. Besides this is something other podcasts can't do because they weren't there.
Currently, it's Schaub having assistant feed him headlines while he regurgitates half-watched Luke Thomas video. Chael talking everyone and every fight up and exploring angles on fighters. Serra and Norton sucking up to whoever is the guest currently. Bisping and Gomez doing headlines and discussing what they were up to today in excruciating length.
Man... maybe podcasts aren't for you?
lol
If you want to know about the early UFC, go watch Big John on Joe Rogan.
Yeah buddy do yourself a favor don't watch TH-cam or any mma journalism for that matter. It's apparent that you don't like it....
erikcarrillo33 When did I say that you idiot?! if anything I called it TH-cam since I said TH-cam first... god you’re dumb
The UFC's control of the media is quite frankly disgusting. Aside from fighter pay it might be the most egregious thing Dana has done.
John makes no sense. He says they weren't regulating. Then says next sentence. Lorenzo amd Dana trying to regulate
U can tell big john cares alot about the quality of his product. Ive never seen a podcaster have those noise canceling panels. I can appreciate the effort, great talk guys
Maybe he meant ZUFU was better at paying politicians and pr. Lol
Hey guys enjoy the podcast, just want to to correct something you said John, Jeff Novitzky has NEVER worked for USADA. He was a federal agent during the BALCO scandal, and was hired by the UFC in 2015 as Vice President of Athlete Health & Performance to manage the UFC's anti-doping program. Just wanted to give a heads up, for some reason a lot of people still think that Novitzky is or was a USADA employee.
Cheers
Release the skeletons!!!
New Jersey baby. Always supported MMA since day 1 lol 😁😁
To Ariels defense, he is saying what he's been told by others. He wasn't there, he was asked the questions. Maybe John should've been on that 30 for 30 answering those questions. I think he's making this a much bigger of a deal than it really is.
Brett Okamoto is a great MMA reporter, and in my opinion is better than Ariel. He's on the rise right now.
Rose City Sneakers hell naw, Brett is a softball pitcher, I wouldn’t even call him a reporter, he’s pretty much a sideline reporter at an nba/nfl game, no substance
Thanks John…If it was not for John, veteran MMA fans would have nobody to refere to for the truth about MMA history and timeline, ive told this same story to newbies and they look at me like im tryint to change the story. UFC is a propaganda Machine and with Nevinsky/Golden Snitch in there wallet there is no way we will know if all fighters are clean or or OK SOME fighters use IV or other PEDS to become champs for UFC profit….Its fucked …..Corperations and Politicians work the same GREAT Lie. very strange.
Big brother is always in charge
jBird I’d be with you if guys like Usman and Blaydes and others weren’t champions or top 3-5. Those dudes don’t draw any fan interest which means no money. If they wanted to choose their top guys don’t you think they’d have more Conor McGregor type personalities they could promote
20+ min clip and I’m still not clear on what specifically BJM is saying was so inaccurate about the statement? Saying Zuffa ran towards regulation doesn’t automatically imply there wasn’t any regulation in place or that they were anti-regulation prior to Zuffa taking over, to me it just means they made it a top priority.
This is just a relevancy thing. Make a statement that you know will get a response from big John. Iron it out and say it was a misunderstanding in the end... All of the MMA news outlets will write about this and boost his views on his new shows.
You guys are kicking ass...Big John with a legend...love it
"Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck. I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. Gradually I came to hate them"- A.H
Who said Ariel was a Journalist? He’s a paid actor.
TANK SHERMAN I always thought he was a cgi hologram
@@gangmember2541 😂
One day maybe 50 years from now someone will make a movie about the beginning of ufc and we are all part of it. Now that's awesome.
John, Ariel is NOT a good guy. STOP LYING
Nobody is perfect. And i do not know how bad of a guy Ariel is. But if you consider Ariel a bad guy. When what the fuck is Dana?... lol
Peter Guirguess FU Say it in Ariels face. Hope he will beat you up when you say such things in his face
Is it cause he’s jewish?
squarehead Yes you square head
changing the PPV model is what kept conor away so long, and why Dana is right when he says he's not the man anymore. The UFC doesn't give a sh*t about numbers anymore because of the contract. Imagine how many people would tune into a ppv to see conor lose, HUGE numbers!
Amen 🙏 Big John! The Truth. Maybe one day we'll get the sorta behind the scenes or a cool book by yourself. However, it'll never be let out because of the UFC. It's nuts....
Love ya, brother! ✔
I was never a fan of Ariel. I appreciate what he's done for the sport of MMA. He's just such a blatant manipulator I can't tolerate his interviews anymore.
I never knew that Fertita did that. From Dana and his side of things, I am sure that it was an angel situation for UFC in providing capital and guaranteed approval in Nevada. They make it sound bad but it's who you know in business.
Wow I didn't even know this existed. What a gem of a find! 👍
Maybe ppl have regurgitated it wrong. But the point has been that "Zuffa ran towards regulation, not away from it" idk if ariel just said it wrong but thats how ive always herd and understood it. Not to do with anyone else just zuffa was more towards regualting then not (realizing would be profitable) regardless what the previous or next owners did or will do
Also, helwani has done well for himself and his style is to stir up some controversy. He goes for drama over depth. I don’t pay much attention to him but he’s ok.
Love John. Straight O.G.
A tell all from Big John would be epiccc
✊so true.. ,,he was there" ☝️
god bless BJM
(baddest Jon McCarthy😉)
To watch the transition of Helwani from journalist to puppet has been very disappointing but undeniable.
"That's life"
Big John Mccarthy.
Ariel is almost needed just to have the disagreements it creates more knowledge for us and him as well. Keep it guys doing a great job!
Josh tell John he needs to write a book about the behind the scenes and birth of the UFC from the beginning until he left. It would be a best seller for sure 🤙🏼
Was Big John sipping Grandpa's cough medicine, lol. Yes, Big John IS one of the Founders of the UFC...a TRUE Goat!
CutTheKnot no no. He’s not a founder of the ufc. He absolutely helped out in getting mma sanctioned but he wasn’t a founder my friend. He even says that
Thanks to Big John Mcarthy the UFC is where it is and his story is always the story I tell people when they think MMA is to rough or shouldnt be allowed. Like another comment said he needs to write a book.
The intro introduces you guys lol
The host is so full of himself he's actually starring at a picture of himself hanging on the wall the entire interview🤔
“the facts weren’t portrayed correctly”
so it was not factual?
Stephen Thompson and Wonderboy, epic inter-universe matchup 12:33
Apparently they already fought and got 180,000 pay per view buys. 🤷♂️🤷♂️😐
John McCarthy looks like a jacked up John Travolta lol
Dustin Hornblower that’s why they call him big John
Love the video. But...the basis of the convo is about getting the facts straight and yet you guys said Novitzky worked for USADA, which is incorrect. He worked for the FDA which is not USADA. So point well taken, but also ironic.
Die he Not work for usada when USADA began to work with the UFC and than moved on to be employed by the UFC directly to manage their relationship with USADA? That's how I understood it.
He DID work for usada and now works FOR the ufc in charge of the USADA program.
@@DC-bp8sx I've been looking around a little and can't find anything that shows him actually working for USADA.
The history of MMA is important. Therefore, Big John is important. Because 1) that history likely cannot be written without his name, and 2) he probably knows more & more about that history than ANYone else.
10:35 my heart drops did I just waste my time listening to this whole video when Big John McCarthy actually admits that he doesn't know exactly recount exactly what Ariel helwani exactly said or was being asked. You know why most reporters don't look into it whenever Ariel helwani reports anyting ? it it's because he's usually about 95% right whenever he announces anything. And he is well known for never giving up his sources and is exactly why he has sources. He has years of credibility which I agree with your point might give him some leniency but he has earned that respect.
lol
big john’s big ego hurtin abt ariel😢😫
as soon as UFC does their fighters wrong , Ariel is the only platform that will give them a chance to defend yourself and fight back .
if UFC wants to keep secrets its ok ,but dont expect Journalists to do so .
still disgusting that a millionaire like White makes it his mission to ruin Ariel and his family .
White should be happy with his own archievements and stop building performance institutes everywhere from money that should have gone to fighters as salary.
Hahaha! Yeah, Dana's really ruined his life. He's the face of UFC on ESPN. I'm sure that happened without Uncle Dana's approval. Hahaha!
He was a major part in building the UFC, might not agree with everything he does but we wouldn't have it without him
Dana got Ariel that job and Ariel was the one who was destroying other journalists who wanted to do his job too.
Ariel was in journalism school while big John was in court fighting for the sport of MMA and Big John still has more hair than Ariel in 2020!!! 10-9 Mccarthy. "Let's get it on"!!!!
It must be really cool to actually be one of the guys that early in the sport. And really have been there.
May be one of the few times I appreciate what Big John is saying.
Why is John afraid to reveal the skeletons in the UFC closet? Unless he signed an NDA, he should be able to speak the truth.
🤓 The Schmo Era begins...fighters love him, informed, and genuine.
I gotta be honest. At first i thought, who the fuck is this clown. BUT! The Schmo won me over pretty quickly. I get way more excited about a 3-5 minute Schmo interview, than a 20-30 minute Ariel interview.
marcus knox Totally agree. Schmo, tries to bring the best out of the fighters and not dig up dirt.
The schmo is fucking overrated dude
I listen on my phone speakers and this channel is always so quiet, the need to turn it up a bit imo
Wheres Ariel's reply lol
Ariel was just repeating what Dana White has been saying for years. He should know enough to not believe Dana
I can't believe Big John McCarthy does not have some kind of a lifetime Cutt.
Funny how someone who gets called out for lying calls out for getting attacked about it
Such a long intro, just let John tell the story
Make zero mistakes. "A" wants to be Jim Rome. He's easy to figure out. Not a big secret.
For someone who doesn't like talking about it, sure refers back to many many many stories with explanations
I always wondered if Lorentzo made a dirty move. Thanks Big John.
what was the dirty story about UFC getting regulated in Nevada
"I know all the horrible things that happened" - Big John ..... Has to be secrets about Tank Abbott.