TACOMA vs JEEP WRANGLER Off-Road Battle
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- So are you a Tacoma or Jeep person let me know in the comments. Also what other vehicle should I go up against? I was thinking of calling out someone with a TRD 4x4 off-road.
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Airing down your tires would have helped you through most of those obstacles.
What's that just letting some air out?
@@oxbowxylophone6380 Yes. Reducing air pressure in the tires increases the tire footprint alot, giving you way more traction. It's for slow speeds though, not bombing down forest roads at speed.
@@oxbowxylophone6380 Yes. Most off-roaders let some air out of their tires once they leave the pavement. It helps cushion the ride and provides a lot more traction. I’ll usually go down to 15-18psi when I’m off-roading, but other people will go even lower if they have the right kind of wheels.
That and having a rear locker and atrac would have made it up that first obstacle
i was just gona say, im no offroad guy, but i sure love driving challenges... and the first comment that came to mind was ' tires are way over inflated for the task ' deflate and carry a air pump for after your fun... its so cheap, why not use the advantage of added grip
Tires below 25 for off road, more like 15 for rock crawling (which this was not)
BIGGEST SECRET: momentum. Using the minimum force necessary, try to ALWAYS keep your rig moving forward. Dead stops on big inclines are nightmares of phyisics.
As a fellow Toyota owner (Tundra) your Tacoma looks nice. However, like one of the other commenters mentioned, that 6" lift might seem like the right gear, it's not built for off-roading. I run a suspension lift; 3" in the front and 1.5" in the rear, and have 14" of ground clearance on 35/12.25/R17 tires. Ground clearance achieved with a proper suspension lift (Fox/King/Icon/etc) is what works and is purpose built for off-roading. The other thing someone else mentioned was airing down your tires. For this to work and be the most efficient you want the smallest wheels your brakes will allow (for me 17" wheels) and the most amount of tire wall to allow airing down enough, yet still have enough tire protection while deflated to keep a rock from bending your wheel rim and throwing the bead.
No hate at all bro! Great video, good looking Tacoma! Just some constructive observational feedback of which you may have already heard or considered yourself. Thanks for the video!!!👍
This is a joke that Tacoma will be running great in 10 years that jeep is a money pit piece of junk lol
First obstacle the Jeep definitely was not locked in the front. Open diff was obvious. Overall a good video.
Videos never do justice for how steep the hills really are
The TRD Off-Road immediately has the advantage over the Sport, especially with anything involving rock climbing/going over logs/etc. because the Off-Road has a full skid plates/protected undercarriage. EDIT - plus, didnt realize the sport does NOT have locking diff/crawl control, terrain selection and everything the Off-Road has.
Or manual transmission, although autos are easier, manuals have 4.30 rear gear with the 8.8 differential..
@@josephmengele7804
sport 4x4 does come in manual, i have one. with trac control off, 4h and tires aired down even to 25psi, the sport could do most of the obstacles fine. the biggest problem the sport has for off roading imo is the hood scoop blocking view, only having one rear back up camera (off road has i think 4 total) and it isn't equipped with crawl control. even still, the sport is a good off road vehicle. nitto grapplers did really good in mud, rocks and sandy conditions and had zero issues in the snow or mountains last year. the one thing they don't do great in is the rain/rain puddles at higher speeds, especially on regular road, 2wd, and trac control on. you'll feel your truck jerk around.
@@nept369 yeah I’ve heard about the hood scoop being in the way while off roading. My offroad 6mt happens to have the 4 cameras and it’s very useful at 7mph or under. Is yours a double or access cab sport?
Double cab. Im not sure if they make the trd sport 4x4 in access cab. even if they did, i need the extra space for the family. we usually travel with the taco.
@@nevadadesert1906 I’ve seen a sport access cab 6mt that’s why I asked if yours was either one. Don’t recall if seeing the 4x4 decals but was unaware yours being a trd sport double cab 6mt was an option. That’s cool… Best of wishes!…. I do feel my truck slide a bit as you mentioned on higher speeds in rain. Do you still have the factory 17in rims and tires or upgraded? I still have the 16in rims on mine with original tires. 2022 with 16k miles.
I had a 88 Chevy Sport side short bed. The thing was a beast!! 5" Body lift on 34s . Enjoyed driving in deep snow!
Jeeps are better offroad, but tacomas/4runners are very capable too. Jeeps have the advantage of front solid axles and sway bar disconnect.
When I was purchasing an vehicle for camping/offroading, tacoma 4runner and wrangler were my choices. After much reading and finally test driving all of them, I picked wrangler. The tops and doors being removable was a huge bonus. Dogs love it.
What about the ram power wagon?
His swaybar was connected
No its not. Jeep are garbage. GTFO
Our lsd works in both axles. Tap those breaks and let it do it's thing. It's no MTS but it's much better than people give it credit for
Both are great throughout that obstacle
Nice rig but Air down...get rid of your RC's and if u are able...get a Dobinson long travel setup...the MRR's and some sliders. I have a 2020 Sport 4x4 and went thru same type of trail...only one time did she spin on some slick flat rock on a steep incline..it went into limited slip and we went up no prob. The regear to 5.29's also gave it the lower end torque it needed too. It was a blast!
Tacoma looks sick, but that rc lift just isn’t built for this type of off-roading brotha. I have the rc 3 inch coil kit and it does okay, but I eventually want to get a full king/fox/icon setup lol.
Sway bar disconnected on the jeep would have really made it look easy. I can't believe it was connected. Great way to break em
I'm a hardcore Yota guy for most things but give me my Jeep off-road. Love my Gladiator ❤
sick looking truck but I gotta be honest and say that the truck would have struggled less if it was the off road trim
And the driver
@@saulgarcia4761 😂
I love my TRD 4Runner but it’s not in the same class as my Rubicon, off road.
Jeep’s are by far some of the best off-roading platforms. Hard to beat front solid axles, short wheelbases, and good stock clearance . With the right gear basically unstoppable. The Jeep gladiator would’ve been a better comparison to the Tacoma .
Is the TRD sport right? Missing that rear differential lock made that Tacoma struggled
im getting a 4runer trd offroad but man the gas is going to be poop i am still learning about these, i will get a tacoma down the road
My TRD offroad takles stuff like that all the time. You should have bought the offroaf. I am only on coilovers that give 3" of lift and 33s and have no issues
I'd much prefer doing the 3" . The six on the taco looks so goofy.
The trd off Road is the best opción
No way. The TRDOR only allows the locker to be used in 4LO, instead get an sr5 or sport 4x4 and put in a much better aftermarket ARB or Eaton locker and you can use it in 2HI 4HI or 4LO.
@@sonysoyboysaremadeoftears.7404 You can bypass that feature with a relay and a little re-wiring to use the locker in all modes of drive.
@@LightsOut-xw9cu not on the 3rd gens, a work around only exists on the 1st and 2nd gens for that
@@sonysoyboysaremadeoftears.7404 Good to know. It's too bad that haven't found a workaround yet.
@@LightsOut-xw9cu Yea, That's why I went with a sport 4x4 and installed an eaton e locker. The total cost was around 2500 usd and it works in 2HI 4HI and 4LO and now my sport can go on almost any trail. Next thing to get will be a front locker.
IMMEDIATE TIME MARK (AFTER VIDEO STARTS) at the
55 seconds into this video….
He asks, “Will the Toyota (ALL stock except for 35” tires 😮and a 6” lift kit) Tacoma keep up with this Jeep”?
I can’t help but to chime in on this question he asks immediately as the video is just starting and BEFORE I even watch it!
Back in the day, starting early and mid 80’s, I was constantly running modded Toyotas off-road with modded Jeeps that some buddies owned. And this went on for years, before and after many different mods to both.
I can honestly say, that there were places the Jeep would go, that I couldn’t get my Toyota in to. But with that being said, there were places I could get into that the Jeep couldn’t do. One key to having a good off-road Toyota, (at least on those days) the best Toyotas for off-roading were the regular cab short beds. This gave the Toyota the very short wheelbase, which was crucial and made a world of difference. One area the Toyota was lacking, was in engine power. While many Jeeps were running stock V8’s, the Toyota was running the little 4 cylinder. (22R if memory serves) Even with some engine mods, power was a bit weak, especially when running 35’s or even 33’s. (Tires)
All of that being said, there is one more HUGE variable not yet mentioned! And that is:
The performance of ANY off-road vehicle, wether it be hill climbing, rock climbing or rough trails, running streams and water crossings etc etc, the ONE hugely variable component that can make a night and day difference???
The DRIVER!!
That’s right! The persons experience and skill, make a night and day difference in how well any vehicle will perform! One guy might try all afternoon to successfully climb a very tall, deep sand trail. And not ever make it. Then, an experienced driver gets in, and makes it right up the sandy mountain, and clears the top no problem at all!!
Driving experience comes from learning from someone who’s very experienced, and then spending much time off-road gaining your own experience!!
Just stomping on the gas doesn’t work! (As most newbies think) And all types of surfaces have different driving techniques you need to apply. Whether it be sand, dirt, mud, water, gravel, rock, snow, uphill, downhill, ice etc etc. etc..
In other words, you see some inexperienced newbie with a beautiful, fully decked out truck, and he’s getting stuck constantly! Meanwhile, an experienced driver with skills, is passing that newbie and beautiful off-road truck, and he’s in an old Toyota with no mods, no lift kit and got street tires on it!! Seen it a thousand times!! Bottom line: Get your driving experience to a good level, BEFORE you go out and invest in a “built” truck. Get a cheaper 4x4 first, gain the experience and driving skills in that, and THEN get your “dream” Toyota or “dream” Jeep.
Trust me! You’ll thank me in the end!!! 🙂🙂
I don’t think the music is loud enough
Yea everything looks more mild on camera for sure.
They both need lockers. The Jeep needs a quick disconnect sway bar.
Are you deflating your tires? Does the guy in the Jeep know how to wheel?
Apples to oranges. If you had an offroad or pro with rear locker and mts would have been much better comparison.
Had A TRD SPORT.
I normally air my wrangler to 27 psi for off roading and 22 for rock crawling just fyi it helps
I air my Tacoma down to 15 normally.
Tacoma is stunning beast💪💪💪❤❤❤
The jeep should have disconnected his sway bar 😂
I bought the 2019 Tacoma trd pro no mods yet besides tint
Hey not to talk bad about you have that 6in lift but I think you would have more benefits if you go to a 2.5in lift or a 3in lift and do the bmc and you'll be able to clear 35s a lot of tacomas ik have theirs set up like that since the lower tour center of gravity is the better and im In a 1st gen 5sp taco and I can go a lot of places guy fully locked and 40s go I am just more aware of the lines I need to choose
Keep more beast but only for one round at the off-road ! And check the engine but Tacoma will last long doesn’t matter how often you take for off-road !
i dont know about newer stuff but with older units being in 4hi while low speed/gear wheeling can be hard on clutches, why not just put it in 4lo and climb up it?
The only bad thing about jeeps is reliability, on my 2020 rubicon transmission break at 70000 miles and the dealer said the only way to fixed is replace the whole transmission I never buy jeep again, my 1999 Toyota Tacoma has 366000 miles still working
That trans problem surprises me on the Jeep. Those things are practically bulletproof. And people are putting hemis’ in front of the stock transfer cases and they aren’t breaking, including differentials, u-joints, drive shafts, axles, etc. I’ve been out with Toyota buddies and I’ve had to drive them out and go back with wrenches to fix the Toyotas to get them out.
I know I will get lots of had feedback from the Toyota loyal that will try and convince me that my experiences never happened, because according to them, Toyotas NEVER break anything. In these off road competitions, 99% of the time the Jeeps school the Toyotas.
My 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee is all original. 5.2, the transmission, both diffs, transaxle. Even starter and alternator. 233,000 kms.
Both are sickkkkkk
Drop bracket lifts are for looks not performance. That jeep has much better mods for off reading, Lockers front and rear with better articulating lift. Tacoma would do better with nice upper control arms and better spring/shock set up insteadof the drop bracket. Locking front would be the equalizer.
Rigs look very nice. These rookies need A LOT to learn... 😁
No slowing down on uphill obstacles... Keep steady forward momentum, NO TIRE HOPPING -> that is how axles and u-joints snap.
Better off without that side steps.
Trucks seem to have less traction in the rear most of the time. Just get a taco with factory locker and add one to the front and you are good.
True. Lack of weight is the issue, often times.
Or just get the sport and put in air lockers front and back so u can use them in more then just 4-low
This kid didn’t even know on what gear he was on he was just saying yeah 😂
Did you have to take some air out of your tires?
Two door Jeep’s are much better for off roaring with the shorter wheelbase. In the long run, the Toyota would be more reliable. Used to be a massive jeep fan, of the older models and the in-line 4.0 6 cylinder was one of the best engines of all time.
Nah
I will say that the wheel base does have its advantages and disadvantages. The 4 door is longer so naturally it better at climbing because of the lower center of gravity. But the 2 door has a better break over angle. Naturally I just got the best of both worlds with my 06LJ.
In my case the JL has been lasting me through all the abuse with no problems and on the other hand my friends tacoma has already had a transmission and alternator swap with no off road abuse.
Jeeps are more reliable as far as I can tell.
nah jeep are more reliable imo if you are really into off-roading , solid front axle is way better than IFS , the vs 6 pentastar is solid. Toyota owner are over estimating the reliability of their car because 98% of them are mall crawler.
It doesn't look like anyone aired down for these trails. Would have helped a ton!
Was thinking the same thing.
@@billwilliams4281 The jeeps tires did look to have less air in them compared to the toyota.
That silt makes me want to go out and clean my air filter and I'm watching this shit from behind a screen 😂😂
The águilas de mexicali hat tho!💯
Vegas toyota offroad represent 🤟🏽
Nice sharing my friend
Respect all cars
Bro try recording on a drone when youre on hills . I think itll make the hill seem how it really is irl
Look like you guys didn't air down
Jeep has more tricks up it's sleeve. We're only seeing some of it's articulation potential. Could've spent 2 mins to wrench off the sway bar links to unleash the Jeeps full potential.
Air down the tires and it’s all depends on the guy behind the wheel 😉😉😉
No lock Taco? 35’s’ air down?
Soon as I heard he had lockers an you didn’t I knew how this was guna go lol
TRD OFF-ROAD has better capability than the sport obviously but you got a nice Tacoma
this is why I would never buy a used truck/suv. they all got hard miles on them. badass video.
No they do not all have hard miles on them, most people never ever go offroad. New vehicles have too many electronics and aren't worth it.
Do Yk what axels the Jeep has?
You do have traction control in 4x4 it just isn’t called Auto LSD. If you’re in 4x4 and your dash does not say TRAC OFF then it is using traction control. Next time you’re slipping raise the RPMs and watch the traction control grab the spinning wheel.
Oh but 4lo does not have traction control. So if you need traction and you have the power stay in 4hi. I do not know why people spin a tire and think 4lo is going to change that.
You were at a huge disadvantage without at least a rear locker. Great vid though.
Get wildpeak AT3 you never spin your tires
TACOMA GANG 🤘🏽🤘🏽jeeps stay having problems 🤮
I’m not driving a Home Depot truck lol
@@patriot2118 Home Depot know what will get there materials to the destination without any issues 😂
can u lock your diffs plllssss
I would take the steps off for more ground clearance
The sport doesn’t lock and the sway bar still connected plus tires not air downed
Jeep has a locker in the front and the Tacoma does not....world of difference. I just sold my Rubicon lifted with 37's and I would prefer a tacoma any day.
This video is like a song in the beginning xd
Air down tires, get a smaller lift and bigger tires with smaller wheels and rock sliders, and high clearance bumpers and front and rear lockers and you’ll be better than the Jeep
Did you re gear the taco?
Nope stock gears
Why 6" lift on the tacoma?
Tacoma stock gear is fine. You’ll be alright
That jeep need to air down and disconnect sway bars
imagine doing these trails without airing down lol, car is only as good(moreover bad in this video) as the driver
I just like coming to the comments to see the internet experts state what everybody should have done
Neither one has front lockers.
It helps if you no how to drive, just sayin’! Love jeeps and Yota’s both, if equally locked it would be a lot closer.
You need lest rims 17” at least whit 33 tire and less lifting for that trail..
16 inch rims are better, bigger rims suck for off-roading. You want more tire than rim.
Need to choose your line better, air down and work on your gas control. 😮💨
❤ nice
tires and pilot
There’s no such a thing as better truck just better driver.
I have one vehicle for you and ask you to change my mind. The Honda Ridgeline.
@@terrarecon Jeep guy here and I would love the ridge line…looks very comfortable to drive
@@skywalk78none94 then get it and enjoy yourself
Tacoma is no challenge to wranglers or gladiator
Jeeps suck, I had a 2015 Sahara Wrangler LTD 6 speed. terrible for daily driving and mediocre at off roading. I currently daily drive my 1985 4runner SR5 5 speed with the 22re and 35's with 5:29 gears and Trail Gear suspension.
That is not entirely correct. You have to be specific in what areas and even then it's not always a given.
Except in reliability
Also air down homie atleast to 20psi
My guy the Tacoma has 4wd the front tire spun when you gassed it up when if it was 2wd the front tires wouldn’t spin as fast if not at all
Thought this dude said he had lockers???
Unfair, the jeep looks properly built, the tacoma definitely is not with that crappy drop bracket lift.
Put lockers on the Tacoma and it’ll school that jeep plus 3,000 times more reliable
The jeep should have made it fair with out using its lockers.
Either the jeep doesn't have lockers or he didn't have them locked?
You can't beat the jeep, it's driver error, he's clearly not using his lockers, if the free wheel is spinning it's clearly not locked, if it was locked he would have made it up no problem. Get someone who actually knows how to drive a jeep.
I don’t think that Jeep even had lockers. That kid didn’t know what he’s talking about, he said he was locked and you could clearly see the front wheel spinning free while the other front wheel struggled.
Maybe he was trying to keep it fair.
To be fair neither of the two drivers looked like they had any idea what they were doing.
Off roading with running boards lol
I drive a Tacoma 4X4 TRD off-road i personally despise Jeep just because it's a Chrysler product from stalantis but I won't lie that Jeep will beat the brakes off a Tacoma it's not even close! Toyota is the better vehicle but it's hard to fuck with a jeep off-road
Mesin yang bagus
Which one?
this is hard to watch
As a Toyota owner, if it’s not sas, it ain’t very capable
6” is the worse for the Tacoma ,
Seriously? Lock the diffs and disconnect the sway bar and no issues. Must be a Toyota guy driving the jeep
4 lo locked ?? No lockers ??
I'd rather have one Tacoma than two Jeeps
Air downnnn