How to Tie PVC into Cast Iron Hub | Episode 11
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- We've spent some time pulling the old cast iron plumbing out of this house. Now, Mike is going to show us how to connect PVC into the cast iron hub so that we can redo the plumbing in our property with PVC instead of cast iron.
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Shalom Aleichem! Just found your channel brother! Life long jewish carpenter here. I just bought a house in eastern Ohio built in 1918. The home has been vacant 33 years. The plumbing and electrical is all original. I begin the rehab of the house in 2 weeks. Thanks for posting this video!
Alot easy way is to just use a rubber mallet, been doing it for over 20 years never had an issue , I'm a self-employed licensed master plumber in 3 states and the easiest way is to use plumbers grease or dawn dishwashing liquid and a rubber mallet, saves time and you have more control
Could you please give a video link
Nice. Now do they make that same rubber gasket for 2 inch and other sizes then what he showed?
@@Jaydayalldayyes they do. Fernco donuts
This comment served me well
I know this was a year ago but is that a good seal on a horizontal pipe ? I want to change my drains to pvc but the connection to the septic through the foundation is cast iron. There is a junction packed with jute and lead I am guessing...
Thank you for posting this! Im replacing old 4” cast to pvc this Saturday. Much appreciated!
You’re welcome!
Excellent video. I've got to replace a Copper main waste line in my house that is starting to leak and this answered my questions regarding how to tie into the cast hub. Thank you for sharing the knowledge. The name of your channel cracked me up, by the way.
Haha thanks! Glad the video helped
Thank you for recording and posting this valuable educational video.
You’re welcome
0:08 That has got to be the most clever channel name I have ever seen! XD
At least, I know what to expect when installing one.
I started plumbing just a few years ago mostly doing new residential homes so no real cast iron experience. I'd like to pour a lead and oakum fitting in at least once. I like all of your tips! Lots to learn in this trade!
Thanks Matt! I’m sure you’ll find a lead and oakum soon lol
I can’t believe you were using PVC glue as a lubricant and a diamond wheel to shave the PVC. Just wow dude.
I thought I was the only one who noticed.... Legends never die 🤌
Very good info sir 👍 appreciate your day to day hard work and teaching us new guys how its done.
You’re welcome!
Good video. I have one suggestion. Prior to putting the gasket in the cast iron, put the pvc pipe in the gasket all the way. Make a mark or use tape on the pvc at where you want the pvc to finish. Then remove the PVC from the gasket and proceed as usual. Takes the guesswork out as to whether it is in properly. Also liquid hand soap is a good lubricant.
If I have a difficult gasket to install I put it in boiling water for a few minutes. Lube up the pipe with dish soap. fish out the gasket with a wood stick drop it in the hub and then put the lubed up pipe in. If you work fast it goes in easy
Thanks for the video. Did not know they made those gaskets. 👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you so much for sharing your job experiences! Very helpful to the DIY'er..
You’re welcome!
Good job ! That's what real plumber looks like in the field. Plumbing is a heavy, physically demanding, dirty work. Be aware of TH-cam plumbers in neon shirts and brand new tools with minimal experience. They misrepresent the trade
I came across a " old plumbers trick". After you bevel the end of the pvc you cut a small notch ( 3/4" x 1/2"). This lessons the diameter enough to ease the pipe in. It works great. Great channel by the way 👍
Nice! We’ll keep that in mind. Glad you like the channel
how do that .... where 3/4 by 1/2 more help needed. thanks
@@rswind1964notch on the end
A little soap is the key to helping the pvc slide in easy
Flap disc works really nice for beveling PVC.
Even sanding up the pipe a bit seems to help prevent hydraulic lift until it finally sits
thanks for the class!
Best video on this ever!
Haha thanks! Glad you liked it
Thanks so much. I beveled the end and put a piece of 2x4 on top and banged it in with a little lube. Big help, thanks again
You’re welcome!
finally found the video to help me. thank you so much.
You’re welcome!
Super helpful video - thanks for that!
I have basically this setup in my house with a big 4” cast iron wye embedded in the basement floor and I’m looking to replace everything above that with PVC. I even have basement laundry (like you mention in the video) and as such need to tee off as close as possible to the fitting in the floor…
…which leads to a question: can I plug a 4x4x2 street santee directly into the rubber gasket? Or does it have to be pipe or that reducer fitting you showed? Just looking at options to get the laundry drain as low as possible.
Should note that I don’t have the fittings/gasket in hand yet it’s possible the street wouldn’t even fully seat but figured I’d ask.
Shalom ! You're the man ! Toda raba ! B'rachot !
Verrrey nice 👍🏼
Rubber gasket, Bevel the end, apply slick'em, 2x6 block, 3lb hammer
Bro using that grinder with no guard next to his leg :0o
So just spit on it. Got it! 🤣 Nice work bro
lol thanks
Just did this...I'm not an engineer or a plumber, but...fernco needs to redesign these things. It shouldn't take a 6 foot bar to install a pvc pipe. This is for household drains and sewers, after all...not rocket fuel!
The problem is those old cast iron hubs were not all the same size and fernco only has two sizes of gasket
I bought an older house and it has the same setup you were working on and it didn't have a gasket so everytime someone flushed the toliet it would leak. I'm going to be doing it the way you did but was wondering do you have a link to the 4in rubber gasket you used so i know i got the right one?
Mikey Plumbs making it happen!
In my case, I was able to use a clamp (twist to tighten type) to get the ABS pipe inserted. It helps if you put a cap on the pipe as it provides the clamp with surface area while protecting the pipe wall.
I need to replace my 4 inch tee with a clean out on it. Only thing is the pipe going to the outside exits the house about 5 ft. up the wall horizontally not through the floor vertically. This seems like the right method but fear that getting the new sdr fitting/gasket pushed into place could be a bit challenging.
Mike says he does it all the time horizontally just make sure if you use a piece of pipe bevel it a lot and freeze it or you can cut a rib off the gasket but if you get the sdr fitting it will slide in no problem
Laughed my ass off. Well done video
Haha thanks!
How does the pre made beveled pvc stay inside the gasket? Seems like it would be loose. Do you need to glue it?
today's the day... but with 3". Ordered the fernco. missed that part about PVC adapter. Thanks !
Good luck!
@@JewswithScrews I got it and it took me 3 hours !! the cast iron was at a 45, so no straight shot to push. I used ABS and was a super tight fit into the fernco. and where I wanted to put the temporary 2 by 4, well the pex was there and the beam was notched, MOTHERFATHER ! There was a label on the pipe and I used that to gauge how far in I actually had pushed it in. TOmorrow, will cut it a little, fit fitting and Y, and run it to toilet flange. Has to be better than the wiggly job the last guy did - hey, why is there 1/2 gallon size plumber's putty container here ? I found out why. Onward and upward !
update, Glued the drain line ! (Friday) Water in the toilet, Fire in the Hole ! -- whoosh, yea. Wait, what's that splashing noise ? It's the main stack behind the kitchen wall, so we get after on Monday.
Now you DIYers know why plumbers don’t bite their nails or now you should know.
Wife said no expensive stuff😅
If your in Illinois you cannot use push gaskets a above ground. You'd need to use oakum/lead or no hub couplings.
We’re not in Illinois but good to know
same idea with the horizontal tie in ? that's what I am trying to figure out, the previous "best man" I had working on it, is long gone and this ABS to cast iron joint wiggles ! WTH, surely it will leak once we start using it, right ? thanks for this video
nce job. I am an accountant but it is nice to know.
Thanks!
Great Vid. I learned a lot. I have to scab a piece of PVC on cast iron wastewater, would this method work for that? Thanks ! (and the insert vids were hilarious !)
No, don't cut off ribs, use dawn dish soap to slide it it. It is water salable and washes off.
Man. That Philly accent is soooo strong🤣
Haha indeed! 🦅🦅🦅
Can you use that gasket on the horizontal run as well or will it leak compared to the vertical gravity fed vent. I have something very similar to work on and my run is horizontal.
Yeah you can use it on the horizontal as well as the vertical
Question. I want to do something simmular but above the 3" PVC peice I'm putting in it will go back to the vertical 4" cast which runs through 2 floors and out the roof (its very heavy) How can I support all that cast above to make my PVC splice?
To help to get the pvc pipe in the hole use silicone spray.
Awesome video I’m definitely subscribing that sex lube part was damn hilarious 😂
Haha thanks!
Hey thanks for the video, what is the name of that gasket if I go to a plumbing supply house?
No problem. It’s a soil gasket. Either 2” 3” or 4”
They make a lubricant just for this application. Don't use PVC glue, is bad on the rubber boot.
So many "that's what she said" lines in this one!!!!
Lol Jeffrey! Back from the dead!
@@JewswithScrews
Amazing isn't it!!!!
Had to do this the other day 4' in a slab on a rough in... cut a short piece right before the hub for a mission band but the cast was just too thin on the bottom😭
Noooooo
What if you want to replace a 3' section of cast in the basement but don't want to replace the whole stack above it? Will pve hold the weight of cast?
Gotta use ya more of that joy jelly. The ole camel snot.. the veener shliden.. grammas bacon grease.. the ole gooch sweat.. the n y jelly.. german cough syrup..
😂😂😂
what is the brand / model number of the 4 inch gasket that you are using. thanks
I don’t know the brand and model number for gasket you have to go to plumbing supply house and ask for soil gasket the kind they have at depot sucks
What is the name of the manufactured PVC piece you purchased that was made to fit into the soil gasket? I have a situation where I can't use much force to insert the PVC pipe.
Mike says it’s a “Sdrxpvc transition coupling”. Hopefully that helps!
@@JewswithScrews Thank you so very much! Your videos are awesome!
You’re welcome and thanks! Glad you like the videos
What's that fitting called?
can i get a part number or name for that sdr push gasket by 4inch pvc adapter
You gotta be from baltimore
Close. Philly
Isn't this why Fernco connectors are made?
Duck butter every time.
I have about an old lead toilet pipe that broke and has about 3 inches of lead still connected to the iron stack hub tie in. Would it be smarter to remove the lead and connect as you have shown or shove the CPVC inside the remaining lead and clamp it with the wrap around coupling?
By the way this is an upstairs toilet so it's above my head (so I'll have limited leverage)
Mike says he would def go back to cast iron. Don't tie into the lead. Bevel the shit out of it to make it easier to get in. And make sure you get the same gasket we have, not the ones from Home Depot
@@JewswithScrews Hey thanks for answering my question. I was hoping you would say otherwise to save myself some work. Still though it's good to know. I had one plumber come in and say "let's replace the whole stack to save yourself some future headache". (Uh.....NO!)
I'm going to the local plumbing supply right after work today! Thanks again!
Sex lube on his pipe fittings? You better check that rating🤣
😂😂😂
They make push gaskets for pvc to cast transition. It makes it so much easier.
Will this method work under ground?
Not sure what you mean exactly. We’re in our basement in this video so technically we’re under ground
I have a sewer line buried under ground. I need to replace cast iron clean out section from hub to above ground with pvc. Will this work in the ground? Thanks for your response.
Hard to say but if you’re digging up the ground you’re going to need to call a plumber. That’s not a homeowner type of job lol
Yes, this technique will work after you remove any dirt or concrete away from the car iron hub. This example was a vertical example. This watertight connection will also be watertight if the pipe is horizontal. You may want to build something that you can use to create leverage to push the pvc pipe into the rubber gasket inside the hub coupling, to make it easier to force the pvc pipe into the rubber gasket.
I don’t not know the rules. where you’re working but here where I am you’re not allowed to use PVC above Ground only ABS
From the mechanic to the plumber .....just lube it.
😂😂😂
My cast iron is 5 inch od and all they have is 4 inch.
On second thought I'd fire you
You couldn’t hire us if you wanted to
@@JewswithScrews I couldn't hire you because of your lack of qualifications.
Jews with Screws. Ha ha I love it
First day plumbing. I see, that's not how it's done
Lol
Men with beers = Hebrews? 😅😂
OwO
Ghaahsket
I guarantee you, you did this without a permit because if an inspector would have seen you using a gasket to transition from cast to PVC he would have made you pull it out you're suppose to lead in a soil adapter uof course unless you're not in the United States
Lol you’re wrong. He gets it inspected like this every day of the week
@@JewswithScrews you must be paying the inspector or the inspector knows nothing about plumbing this would not pass inspection I am a licensed plumber in 4 states
Obviously not our state 🤷♂️
@@JewswithScrews what state are you in?
Pa outside Philly
You identified yourself ad a jew not a plumero, so pls stop the Genocide.
Huh?
Dude use teflon dope To lube. Never needed a pry bar. Cant use petrolem product. It will eat the rubber.
And if yer not skilled enough or have no patience lead wool will work too
This guy's got no idea what he's doing...