No Spark China ATV, Cheapest, Easiest fix, $14 and a few simple step!
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Hi bud. Since I can and no one else has ide like to take the time to thank you for the time effort and money you put into making these videos for us. I have learned more from your videos about wiring than I ever did in shop class back in the day. Not only are you smart but patient and very good at teaching. I would be lost and screwed in my projects if it weren't for the stuff you have taught me. Thanks bud your awesome
You just fixed my atv from 1000 miles away four years later. Thanks Harvey!
Hey. Did you keep any factory connections or re-did it like Harv? Did your lights work? Thanks.
You provided the solution, now people are going to have to do some of the work for themselves. The little bike runs strong!
Big thankyou for helping me to get sons quad going, knowing what to look for when testing saved me hours of frustration so I thankyou for helping me along with a heap of other people in the comments section.
Keep up the good work you got my vote I been mechanic for over 30 years electrical is not my specialty but I'm learning specially owning my first Chinese scooter with the no spark my turn but I figured it out keep up the good work
Thank you, thought I was going crazy. I was seconds from lightning a match to it
Thank you for sharing your wisdom to teach most of us
Dude I rewire a Chinese 4 wheeler 110cc like u say it fire on up . U the man
Patience of a saint. Keep up the good work harvey
I want the alis chalmer i saw in the back ground. I have found several but nobody wants to sell them or they want a ridiculous amount for them. It looks to cold for me there anyway. Good video, works for me.
You should add the link to eBay Harvey 😀
Best instructional videos on TH-cam👍👍👍
Thanks for the info, keep it simple, why complicate things, great video!
Nice fix buddy!
It's a 3-fer! :D
Thanx Harvey!
Ordered the same 'package' short a momentary on starter switch. Turned out to be an open circuit on the BLUE/w (pick up sensor), bypassed the main loom by crimp connection. Would avoid wire nuts, as solid state components tend to act sketchy on such a poor connection.
No lights to begin with, as the BLUE to Gr(een)ound O/F had disconnected. Used BROWN and BROWN to Grd for BLACK/w, via Off position of light switch, making H/L engine on. Don't forget, rear brake safety must be closed to engage starter relay + push button (momentary on). PLEASE MAKE AN EFFORT TO KEEP AN ENGINE KILL 'THUMB' SWITCH AND STARTER LOCKOUTS, FOR SAFETY OF THE LESS EXPERIENCED!
BAJA 90, 2006
PS The Peltzman effect is real, just don't take it too far. Not to be confused w/ the Peltier effect or the Jevson's paradox.
I've worked on these there no hard to rewire I've done it the best way is to completely remove the factory wiring harness theres not many safety features of if any at all though some of them have reverse rev limiter but not to hard
That was pretty cool I've got a Chinese bike I'm going to try it on
HARV,,, I ordered the wiring kit like yours,(DC-4pin) ,tested cont.on all wires & voltage to cdi.installed new pulse -it pulses..,,coils tested bad got a new1,&new cdi. now still no spark tryed 4 plugs,,,huh,i have contant 12volts on both coil wires?? so what pulses the coil to spark,,,after a few days i hooked up the kill button& key switch///still no-spark..thx Harvey,,,,your videos -r-great,,TRYING TO GET OUT &ENJOY EACH DAY
Hey Harvey , your videos are all great , thank you 🙏 . I had no spark on mine and decided to change the harness because it was too old and all the electronics as well , CDI , stator ,coil ... And still have no spark 🤯. I removed the kill switch pin and looked at all your videos 😜😂 , but still the same. What would you do? Thank you
I have the same problem, second harness kit is on the way. If that is not it, I will strip it down to just the basics like this video shows.
i can imagine your frustration from people asking the same questions over and over.. it seems people are too lazy to look up things for themselves. you hit it right on the head about everything though
no, they are not lazy, they are looking to fix it, but also think that the guy probably has had some experience with other things as well , pertaining to an ATV. also wanting to fix it '' now '' , instead of daunting hours of probably not finding what they are looking for.
Lazzzzzzy
What a big help. Thank you very much
So you happen to know anything about only getting one single spark? I been watching your videos and it truly helped. Thank you. I had zero spark before, and now I have “one” spark. Lol.
What to do if you only get one single spark?
Hiw you you suplex power to the cdi box. I know there is 2 types of cdi, but we both have the 5 pin box. I have the wire harness in the mail, but Is that one powered by the magneto, or I'm assuming the battery?
Hey Harvey taking a look at this video my taotao110 has a black box like this one that has the rusted connector or whatever. Mine has a clicking noise when I put power to it but I have a terrible spark. What is that black box and could it be affecting my spark
You seem like a really smart guy I wonder if you could help me out I put everything new on my 250 CC Chinese scooter and I still have no spark
You have explained it soooo well, that my 8 yr old grandson can fix it. THANKS !
Hey Harvey do you think your portable CDI set up would work on a kx85? Let me know please.....
i bought two gio 250 4 stroke dirt bike pit bikes for 200 canadian and not running. both bikes i rebuilt top end replaced all fuel lines completely cleaned the pz30 carbs blah blah blah. no start no spark good battery. then i traced the wiring and noticed some if not most were junk so i started un wrapping the wire loom as i did that more and more problems were found then i got to a point where it all needed to be replaced. after a couple hours if doing the wires from scratch i was able to get the power switch and start button working to turn the quad over as which brought fuel to the plug but for the life of me i could not get the plug to fire. The stator wires and the cdi original colors were so wrong and getting some super wired muti meter readings so i was getting a little stumped on what was going on. Then i watched every one of these videos you made and i even built one of you easy start boxes. needless to say both bikes are running and its all thanks to you my friend! your saved me from weeks of head akes and failed attempts. You are the man! thank you.
Hey Destroyer!!! With a handle like Ur, actually, U R the Man!!! LOL!!! I'm really glad that my videos helped U, I must say, I was watching William Staten's videos when I learned about the 12VDC powered CDI, from there, I figured if I put it in a box, it would make an amazing tool for troubleshooting.... I really want to thank you for Ur kind words and encouragement, thanks also for Ur thoughts, watching, and commenting, please come back to watch and comment often!!!
On here you mention it came with the key fob? I'm sorry I knowbthats not what your saying but whatbisbthe black square box u took off that was burned and the wires were cut on it? My taotao 110b1 has one and it's clicking over and over and seems to be making a faint alarm noise? Is there anyway to just disconnect it and the bike still run? Because I don't understand what it is. It has about 6 or 7 wires coming out of it and I don't want it to kill my battery because of the clicking. ]please help Harvey I asked the same question on another video of yours but when I seen this one I figured it was easier when it's in the video so u will understand
hi can you tell me why oil would be spitting out the front of the motor through a hose nipple smoke also comes from there and if you plug it it builds up pressure
Hey Colin, For some reason, Ur crankcase is pressurizing... It can be due to too much oil in the crankcase, too thin oil, gasoline in the oil, a blown head gasket, or worn rings... Start with an oil change, go with the heaviest viscosity oil that U are comfortable using.... Turn off the gas when the engine is not being used, see if that helps.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!!
and thank you for you vid i will hafe to do this to mine as the key harnes twised and the hot touched a ground for 4 secs i resoldered the wires back in place and it powered the starter but will not start so i am thinking just the cdi but you never no and i do not like all the wires this thing has wires every whar what a mess well lets fix that
Hey Robert, I would start by checking all the ground wires and connections, I have had issues with them before.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!
@@HarveySpooner i looked at it hooked the battery back up and tryed to start it and the motor turns but will not start i put a screw driver in the spark plug fitting and put it right next to the spark plug and no spark so i held the screw driver metal on my hand and hit the starter no spark but the motor turns with the starter the key fob lock with not click click click i am sure i burned something out but i did buy the ebay parts the same one you put on your atv so with my starter working can i just hook up the parts from ebay leveing the rest alone would my starter still work then ill just put a on off switch off the + of the battery and after started flip the switch to off so it wont drain the battery. sorry if u can follow that anyway i no its a bit much my new parts will be here feb 4th
@@HarveySpooner but i will cheak everything seeing how the hole bodys off now
harvey-harness-complete are available on amazon 40-60 bucks
we need a link to that kit
Umm. How are you starting it? Not seeing a starter button.. also, does this charge the battery?
look and listen again . for now there is non
Good for you Harvey, I didn't get far academically. Funny the guy I cheated from failed miserably. Can you explain why a 4t CDI causes four stroking on a 2t engine? They are both AC charged scooters and one performance [orange ]CDI works well for both. My guess its the capacitor maybe as the 2t fires 2x the speed. Also, my 2t CDI s give up quickly now that upgrades let it rev higher than 7,500. Exciter coil 75V normal, good earth. I read somewhere that the 4t will spark in between strokes anyway, I think because of the flywheel striking the pickup every revolution. I saw a CDI split open and capacitors attached in parallel for optimized spark if that may help? Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Will this work on the China 250cc Trail Rover 250cx I believe is what it's called? The person I purchased from I guess didn't know know a wire was loose in the left controls assembly. He bypassed the ignition switch well its actually not there, instead is a HUGE momentary pushbutton that when pressed, it sends battery voltage straight to starter, not solenoid!?!?...needless to say that switch only lasted a handful of cranks....lol. The kill switch works but the start & headlights switches don't work. If you know this will work, let me know.....one thing the 250 has is the choke lever as part of left handlebar controls assembly. I have no idea how many wires are "supposed" to go to the ignition key switch either? Thanks for any information
I totally agree with you you make me laugh and you really know your stuff I tilt my hat to you I agree with you one hundred percent I work on them from time to time and it's just a lot of people just don't get it and it is what it is keep up the good work love you videos
Hi Harvey, I have a lifan dinosaur 250cc with the wiring loom fried. It has a Fmm253 twin cylinder engine in it, I'm wondering could I do this trick with it by joining the two plug leads together?
cant u run the the starter button one end to the + on the battery and the other line to the starter pushing the button basicly says power when pushed and when released no power basicly a off and on botton a light switch if you can do that with putting the jump box on and it gives power then its the same thing off and on
Hey Robert, The starter button is not strong enough to power the starter directly, the power will melt the switch... One needs a solenoid to carry the battery power to the starter.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting.... If U need to power the starter without a solenoid, power it directly from the battery, just beware that there is a lot of power and a lot of heat will be generated, sparks will hurt Ur eyes, can spark a fire, and the screwdriver, wire, or piece of metal U use will get crazy hot....
@@HarveySpooner i see thank you thats good good info
I've done the button push start and the switches keep burning out.
What was that black box with the little rusted part that you said it was shot. What is that call because mine just broke all apart today and cant find were to buy one?
Is a pit bike harness also recommended for replacing wiring on a 250cc Yamaha Timberwolf?
Can I test the engine like this with the battery in place of the jumper cable box?
What's the name of that box that you first had in your hand with the white coming out of it
So how do u start this from here on in with battery pack or did u ever get a switch to work
What is the name/type of the yellow tractor mower in background?
I believe it's a cub cadet
I have new electrics and wiring harness. No spark still
I'm havinthe Same problem bro. An you help
Post a link to the harness.
hi mate ive got an xtm 250 and on the cdi i have the same as you but for some reason i have white/red stripe coming from stator instead of blue and white? would it still be the same? its got no spark at the moment so im asking if i should put white/red stripe into blue white
I bought the tao Tao 125 from tribal motorsports 3 years ago. It came destroyed in the shipping and I bought the extra warranty and they replaced the gas cap that was crushed and gave me new cargo brackets and some other stuff that wasn't needed. A week after the muffler inside fell apart so I opened another claim and they gave me run around saying they are waiting on the part from China it'll be a few weeks I said no problem thanks well they never replaced my parts after arguing with them all the time and then saying they replaced stuff for me already and they won't honor the warranty I bought even after sending them pictures and videos. The quad no does not run no spark at all and I can't figure it out. Kid rode the quad for about a month with the muffler rumbling and chattering sounding like a 2 stroke before it snapped off complete. I rebuilt the baffles and welded it back up and it ran for another month before it just died in the middle of riding and no longer has spark. Hasn't ran in over 2 years now. Kinda have it in the back burner because I'm working on a few other quads as well as rebuilding the roof and foundation of my home so now I'm back to the tao Tao. Can't figure it out.
thank you so much man this helps so much
Furnissdale Feral, Ia'm glad that my video helped U!!! Thanks for getting back to me with the positive feedback!!! Thanks also for watching and commenting!!!
Hi mate i have a Chinese quad that had a similar wire harness 2 this 1 I took it all off an put a new 1 I got off eBay apart from the new stator an coil pack no matter what I do 2 try ground it turns over as soon as I put the leads on the battery even tho the key an non off the run switches are on me dad seems 2 fink it's a bad ground so I have watched a few off you vids 2 try it but still no joy
Hey Kyle, it sounds to me like Ur starting solenoid is locked on, shorted, miss wired, or the red wire with the yellow or orange stripe that goes to the starting relay is stuck at +12VDC... Give these a check and let me know what U find.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!!
Hi harvey i went an got me a volt meter today 2 go threw the wiring as in 1 off your over videos I put it 2 the lowest setting put the black 2 the frame an the red 2 the shiney looking screw on the engine casing an the meter is going mental so I fink the ground isn't good
Hi, long time watcher first time asking for help. 1990 suzuki quadrunner 250. I know it runs but I need to decode the stator wires. Green/white black/yellow and 3 yellow. Which is for dc power Im guessing. Plz help
Mine have a red a green a black/White a fully Black... What to do?
Hi, I've watched more than a few of your videos on the china engine wiring issues, and i recently got a used 2016 Apollo 250cc dirt bike, the agb-36, and it would not run, so i did what you did and simplified the harness to what it needs to run, and i have the 4+2 pin cdi, the bike used to have electric start and battery, however, i do not know if i still need a battery for the cdi, the wires coming out of the engine are 2 yellow ac power, those run to the rectifier, and the blue/white and ground. i get spark, but it is very weak, could it be that the cdi is supposed to get ac current instead of the rectified 12v that is currently feeding it. I've also considered the ignition coil has also got bad. (all grounds are good)(kick and electric start)
CDI's are so cheap now days...I had a Suzuki TM125 way back and the CDI was $150.oo for it back then(1975).!!
Where can I get the same cdi and in vid ?? Thanks
i would like to know what i need to hook up in order to recharge battery while the atv is running ??
Did you use the original stater
I have one it start from solinoid but not from push button any clue please?
Open circuit on relay engaging (low current input) side of the component, to include grounding.
hi agn plz reply to this one i just looked on ebay and seen this will this work for the china atvs if i can i would like this one so i wont have a dumb key fob and thanks you for your info so far i just hope i am not buging you to much but i will do u a solid ill go watch more of your vids and subscribe and like thanks
Hey Robert Coates, U did not include a link, so, I am not sure which CDI U are considering, here is the one I normally use, www.ebay.com/itm/Wiring-Loom-Harness-Kill-Switch-Ignition-Coil-CDI-For-50cc-160cc-Pit-Dirt-Bike/231318770542?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 , U R not bugging me, just know that I do my best to answer questions, sometimes my life gets busy and I can not answer them all the time.... Thanks for Ur support, thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!
Will I need to wire a push button to start ? Or battery jump the starter
will this work for a 2 stroke model, 50cc kolpin fourwheeler?
Can u do more detailed one
Did you get it to start with a battery and a push button start switch
Will this harness work for the a 500cc chinese quad? It has the 6 pin CDI
I think that these 110cc Chinese quads use a 5 pin CDI
i've got the same engine and there is spark and compression but when i turn it over with a new carb it doesn't want to start
Hey Camden, I had the same situation, it was caused by loose head bolts... I would do a compression leak test, to make sure there are no engine leaks.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!
@@HarveySpooner your a St. Thanks for your time and consideration and I hope you well. I fixed 3 with this video info. Best advice of ever (tighten the head)
Where is the black/red and Blue/white wire going to? Right now, I have blue/yellow connecting to CDI Blue/white. I dont have a mate for black/red connecting to ?
Blue & yellow is the same as blue & white pulse gen. Black & red is power.
Where did you get this from
Can y you just buy a new stator and wiring harness?
That was supposed to be 50cc scooter
I have a chinese atv i dosent have spark i dont know if you have a email or number where i can send you a video of what it does it crank but dosent spark only have like 3 hours max of use and was keep storage for like 6 months carb is clean always use the best gasoline only problem no spark i hope i get an answer from you
Please add the LINK to Ebay. Thanks
Is there a way to start a chines quad with out the cdi
Hey Sara, Modern Quads and Motorcycles require a CDI, Pulse generator, power source, (battery or stator), and spark plug to start and run.... If any pieces, like a CDI box are missing, they do not start.... Going back to points on a modern quad or motorcycle would be a difficult custom engineering task.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting...
Where best wiring harness n. Heapsfor 07 buyang mach 1 70cc please
Till they send harness with mismatched wires...
Can it be bad for your starter to do that
Dose it work on a 250 cc go kart
Hey Jon Paul!!! If U have a single cylinder engine and CDI ignition with a pulse generator to trigger it, yes, it will work.... Thanks for asking, watching, and commenting!!!
Lol I bought ours for 1200 and over 2000 bran new parts in it with no spark 😅 not a 50 $ price Tag 😂😅
Stator has 2 yellow 1 black 1 green
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You can bypass that garbage
dude your right but shut it over and over i cant fix it this move on
Holy cripes let’s get to the point
If you can’t fix that harness your degrees are worthless
This wire harnesses are so easy to diagnose. I’m baffled that you couldn’t narrow down what was wrong with harness.
Why can’t papa get to the point! They’re always so extra..
No
Hey Robert!!! "No" ? Thanks for dropping by to watch and comment!!!
You talk to damn much get to the point
Masters in BS ?
Hey John, BS is more of my life's ambition than something I majored in.... Thanks for your thoughts, watching, and commenting!!!
@@HarveySpooner Thanks for having a good sense of humour Mr Spooner. I spent way more time for sure being clueless mostly, l had to. If you expose the loom at the fattest points large pieces of the puzzle are revealed, an earth wire is spliced or crimped to make 5 or ignition red after the switch splicers into 4 red and white going to what needs power when the key is on. But still l get tripped up by say , 4 pin plug to the regulator pin out diagonally changed , Why ? CDI u tube expert made sense saying it's always a short from the earth to any wire is the fail test, not so as I found out , no short AC performance CDI with led pulsing on off but no discharge spark . Lol. You the man.
Get to the point
You are so confusing
u dont know what ur doing buddy.sorry.its a easy job.