If you hear Bill grunting and making noises during an install you better be ready for a shitshow if you plan on doing it lol and add a cpl hrs or days to the "you'll be back on the road in no time" bit
Mine is only bad in the am, about the first 10-15 shifts. The 1-2 shift being the worst. Put in a Barton and BG Synchro Shift 2 fluid and it helped, but not nearly as smooth as my old T5 tranny was
The hardest part is getting that bolt out of the front mount. I had to use a crowbar with an extension to push the trans away from the passenger side to get it out. Getting it back in is even harder. I had to put the crowbar under my armpit and twist my body so I could have a hand on the bolt and a hand in the shifter housing. This was on a 17. I did a 14 and it was exactly the same. What a PITA.
Did it in my driveway this past Monday. Boy was I nervous, but after going through the motions of what I needed to do and making sure I could reach all the bolts with my tools I went for it. Those bolt that hold the shifter in place did not like my swivel, but I didn't panic. I just got the 10mm deep with a ratchet out and it came out nicely. I have to undo the inside to adjust the plate. I was getting hung up going into second gear. Actually shifting the plate to the driver's side made the proper adjustment and now it shifts like a dream. I started noting some rather loud rattle yesterday. We'll see what that's about, but over all I happy this could be done in my driveway on about 4-5hrs.
I've watched this video 3 times start to finish and im going cross eyed trying to figure out whats going on...i install a barton short throw on my 2010 mustang gt, took about 2 hours in my driveway and i was clunking gears in no time!! I wanna put this on my wifes 2021 gt but this whole thing makes me nervous! Dont wanna mess up mommas new pinto!!
I did everything as shown but I lost that white ring. Installed it without that part. Feels great but I get some nonce at hight RPM. Do you have any suggestions?
Why not remove the exhaust midpipes and driveshaft? While that will be a little more time consuming, it seems it will make the whole process much easier overall not having to fish your hands, tools and the shifter parts up around the driveshaft and exhaust.
ooooooh that wheel-hop. Looks like you haven't replaced all the rubber bushings in the rear suspesnion and subframe with polyurethane and sphericals yet lol
The P-zero Perelli tires in the P-Pack GTs made the whole back end jump up in wide-open throttle in cold weather unless it was above 95-F outside. I hated those tires. They cornered and braked, OK but under power first and second gear were useless to me. Went to BFG - much happier. After catback and FRRP stage 2 intake mod I need more traction again however.
I am about to install this today but I'm also doing a carbon fiber driveshaft so the exhaust and drive shaft will not be there for this installation,, much easier, haha
Hi Bill, I have a 16 GT and I want to get the best setup for my mt82. Do you recommend the BF or the Barton? What else can you pair the Barton with to make it better and more stable?
There's no way I am letting my trans sag like that.. No way.. I don't care what they say.. I would have to pull the drive shaft and possibly even take out the exhaust.. Before ever even attempting this.. And I would never try this shite in a driveway....
For this installation you are going to need this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that
Bill I have an issue with my 15 gt. when I accelerate hard it tends to lock me out of fifth grar, I do have steeda shifter mount bracket installed but still having 5th gear issue. Would this shifter resolve 5th gear issue or what would you recommend?
Yeah this is never going to happen unless I pay someone to do it.. OMG that looks like a full day of work to me... Just imagine trying this in the driveway.. LMAO....
take that shit back to whoever put it in, and tell em to make it right. Dave Moses from Barton covers the fix for that in his install video on youtube. its simple to correct, but you need to remove the shifter boot in order to access the screws on the top of the cartridge to make the adjustment. I just installed mine this past weekend, and had the same exact problem, and it was easy to correct. just loosened 4 bolts, gave the shifter cartridge a little nudge nudge, and problem fixed.
@@davidbennett1709im gonna give this a shot. I see the 4 bolts at the top. Just gotta loosen them and give it a nudge. I’ll write back if that works to help out other drivers with the same problem.
I've got a 2016 mustang GT and looking into a Barton flat side short throw shifted. It seems to be a lot of talk on you tube that the reverse lockout doesn't work. Have you ever come across this and did the lockout work. Everyone that has responded to me on the flat shifter says the lock out didnt work for them either. I know the Barton web site shows on the flat side short throw you have to push down on the stick to engage reverse and pull up on the round shifter. Any info on this will be the deciding factor in which one I purchase. Thanks
I noticed you didn’t say anything about putting the 2 bolts in the swivel part of the shift linkage when you trans mount the shifter. It’s in the instructions to do this on the 2011-2014. I don’t really see how it would make any difference.
I have only driven one 2015 with the MGW and it is a solid choice as well, I prefer the shorter throws and factory style reverse of the Barton. We always have deals on Black Friday.
Bill I have an issue with my 15 gt. when I accelerate hard it tends to lock me out of fifth grar, I do have steeda shifter mount bracket installed but still having 5th gear issue. Would this shifter resolve 5th gear issue or what would you recommend?
I have the original Barton Industries Short Throw Shifter with Full Trans Mount and Driveshaft Loop. How much does this shifter differ from the original one?
Hey bill maybe I missed something in the install, but why do you have to remove the stock lock out? When you remove the pin then pull it out I am unsure why. About to install my Barton and it did not come with the pin removal block.
What was the shifter adjustment when it was hard going into gear I couldn't see what was going on? Is there a special screw you turn? How do you adjust or what is adjusted if it is hard going in gear?
@@Zerogivengarage Looks like you snapped the bolt because you used a bolt that wasn't fully threaded!!!!! you maybe had two full turns before you got to the unthreaded part of the bolt and you kept turning.
Hey I have the Barton hybrid 3 shifter, and the DSS 4, aluminum driveshaft. Will the stifflers driveshaft loop work with these applications. Wanting to mount it to the trans also. Not body mount. SOS
If you hear Bill grunting and making noises during an install you better be ready for a shitshow if you plan on doing it lol and add a cpl hrs or days to the "you'll be back on the road in no time" bit
May be the first time I've heard MT82 and smooth used in the same sentence before haha
maybe its me but I love the way mine shifts. This is my 4th car with the MT82, all had Bartons and none ever had an issue.
I think the mt82 is very smooth shifting but it does lack durability
Mine is only bad in the am, about the first 10-15 shifts. The 1-2 shift being the worst. Put in a Barton and BG Synchro Shift 2 fluid and it helped, but not nearly as smooth as my old T5 tranny was
The hardest part is getting that bolt out of the front mount. I had to use a crowbar with an extension to push the trans away from the passenger side to get it out. Getting it back in is even harder. I had to put the crowbar under my armpit and twist my body so I could have a hand on the bolt and a hand in the shifter housing. This was on a 17. I did a 14 and it was exactly the same. What a PITA.
Did it in my driveway this past Monday. Boy was I nervous, but after going through the motions of what I needed to do and making sure I could reach all the bolts with my tools I went for it. Those bolt that hold the shifter in place did not like my swivel, but I didn't panic. I just got the 10mm deep with a ratchet out and it came out nicely. I have to undo the inside to adjust the plate. I was getting hung up going into second gear. Actually shifting the plate to the driver's side made the proper adjustment and now it shifts like a dream. I started noting some rather loud rattle yesterday. We'll see what that's about, but over all I happy this could be done in my driveway on about 4-5hrs.
Did you ever find what the rattle was?
@@Nolsie-m9r sure did. The knob needed more tightening. Cleared right up!
I will never try this at home.. LMAO... My nerves are way to bad for this..
I've watched this video 3 times start to finish and im going cross eyed trying to figure out whats going on...i install a barton short throw on my 2010 mustang gt, took about 2 hours in my driveway and i was clunking gears in no time!! I wanna put this on my wifes 2021 gt but this whole thing makes me nervous! Dont wanna mess up mommas new pinto!!
I'm here for the repetitive music
9:55 who farted?.😁🤣
This shifter along with the STEEDA clutch spring was the first mod I done to my Mustang... it's a MUST HAVE FOR ALL MT82 S550's
I did everything as shown but I lost that white ring. Installed it without that part. Feels great but I get some nonce at hight RPM. Do you have any suggestions?
And I will play the music track on this video, so I feel the same way as watching this video showing the new shifter installation.
Why not remove the exhaust midpipes and driveshaft? While that will be a little more time consuming, it seems it will make the whole process much easier overall not having to fish your hands, tools and the shifter parts up around the driveshaft and exhaust.
Absolutely right. Remove the driveshaft bolts and most of the work can be done topside.
ooooooh that wheel-hop. Looks like you haven't replaced all the rubber bushings in the rear suspesnion and subframe with polyurethane and sphericals yet lol
Call them screws one more time! 😞
Driving me "nuts" lmao. Screws!
At 25:40 What the hell was all that vibration in 2nd gear? If the Trans is doing that, I'd be even more concerned about durability.
Wheel hop. Stock car, stock tires, cold road.
Bill Tumas Ah...thanks.
The P-zero Perelli tires in the P-Pack GTs made the whole back end jump up in wide-open throttle in cold weather unless it was above 95-F outside. I hated those tires. They cornered and braked, OK but under power first and second gear were useless to me. Went to BFG - much happier. After catback and FRRP stage 2 intake mod I need more traction again however.
I saw that too 😅
Is the hybrid any better that the original barton for the S550? I just installed my barton on my 17 GT and I don't really like it that much.
There are a few different versions. I have the trans mounted original on my car and love it, this one shifts just like mine does.
I am about to install this today but I'm also doing a carbon fiber driveshaft so the exhaust and drive shaft will not be there for this installation,, much easier, haha
Hi Bill, I have a 16 GT and I want to get the best setup for my mt82. Do you recommend the BF or the Barton? What else can you pair the Barton with to make it better and more stable?
There's no way I am letting my trans sag like that.. No way.. I don't care what they say.. I would have to pull the drive shaft and possibly even take out the exhaust.. Before ever even attempting this.. And I would never try this shite in a driveway....
It's hard to get it out of second gear. It gets stuck. Any suggestions?
For this installation you are going to need this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that this that
WILL THIS WORK ON RIGHT HAND DRIVES IN AUSTRALIA. ?
Yes it will
THANK YOU
AUSTRALIA isn't a real place.
wow! quality stuff by Barton, makes me wish I bought a manual again lol
Bill I have an issue with my 15 gt. when I accelerate hard it tends to lock me out of fifth grar, I do have steeda shifter mount bracket installed but still having 5th gear issue. Would this shifter resolve 5th gear issue or what would you recommend?
Yeah this is never going to happen unless I pay someone to do it.. OMG that looks like a full day of work to me... Just imagine trying this in the driveway.. LMAO....
I knocked it out in 3 hours in my driveway. It's not that hard. Just requires patience and that's about it
I lost my plastic spacer what can I do
Who can do this for me in South Jersey????? I got the cash...
PITA. If i had your tools a facilities i'd def be taking the exhaust and drive shaft off.
I considered it and then figured most people would not want to do that and would complain if we did.
good point
Me too. He does what the average garage guy can do.
Had mine put in, above 3k rpm it won't go into second gear (from first). Does anyone have any idea what might be causing that?
Regards,
Hudson
take that shit back to whoever put it in, and tell em to make it right. Dave Moses from Barton covers the fix for that in his install video on youtube. its simple to correct, but you need to remove the shifter boot in order to access the screws on the top of the cartridge to make the adjustment. I just installed mine this past weekend, and had the same exact problem, and it was easy to correct. just loosened 4 bolts, gave the shifter cartridge a little nudge nudge, and problem fixed.
Same here just got it installed and it gives me problems going from 1st to 2nd. Not happy about that.
@@davidbennett1709im gonna give this a shot. I see the 4 bolts at the top. Just gotta loosen them and give it a nudge. I’ll write back if that works to help out other drivers with the same problem.
Is this a big enough improvement over the blowfish bracket that it is worth the extra cost?
The boot is only held on by a zip tie. My car confirmed that was a lie
Great video! Not for the faint hearted...LOL...Dexterity is a must!! What a great part!!
I’ve lost the white ring. Is there a part number?
Hey, I also lost it by any chance do you know where I can find it or the name of the white ring?
Yes I am wondering the same thing shop lost mine
taking the console out would of been easier to install. 4 bolts
Is this a better shifter than the Steeda short throw shifter?
I've got a 2016 mustang GT and looking into a Barton flat side short throw shifted. It seems to be a lot of talk on you tube that the reverse lockout doesn't work. Have you ever come across this and did the lockout work. Everyone that has responded to me on the flat shifter says the lock out didnt work for them either. I know the Barton web site shows on the flat side short throw you have to push down on the stick to engage reverse and pull up on the round shifter. Any info on this will be the deciding factor in which one I purchase. Thanks
I noticed you didn’t say anything about putting the 2 bolts in the swivel part of the shift linkage when you trans mount the shifter. It’s in the instructions to do this on the 2011-2014. I don’t really see how it would make any difference.
note to self. if i opt for a 6 speed in the spring do a shifter the same time as full exhaust and drive shaft, lol
Bill do you like this or the mgw race spec better for everyday and decent track use? also any black Friday deals on either?
I have only driven one 2015 with the MGW and it is a solid choice as well, I prefer the shorter throws and factory style reverse of the Barton. We always have deals on Black Friday.
And I want the very mild throw reduction of the MGW with the factory style reverse lockout. Can't win!
God the Pirellis are horrible tires. Thanks for the awesome review. Will probably be picking one of these up.
Bill I have an issue with my 15 gt. when I accelerate hard it tends to lock me out of fifth grar, I do have steeda shifter mount bracket installed but still having 5th gear issue. Would this shifter resolve 5th gear issue or what would you recommend?
How many beers does this install require?
Depends on your beer to quality work ratio.
1 Keg.
3 cases of Old Style. Maybe 3 Maddog 20/20's
I have the original Barton Industries Short Throw Shifter with Full Trans Mount and Driveshaft Loop. How much does this shifter differ from the original one?
Why is this described as fitting the GT only? Does it not fit the EcoBoost? If so why not?
Hey bill maybe I missed something in the install, but why do you have to remove the stock lock out? When you remove the pin then pull it out I am unsure why. About to install my Barton and it did not come with the pin removal block.
Pretty much just to remove the spring
Will this work with the Ecoboost?
We offer a Barton for the Ecoboost but this version is GT only.
Mine will be in tomorrow. Can't wait to drive my car with it. Not looking fwd to the install!
What was the shifter adjustment when it was hard going into gear I couldn't see what was going on? Is there a special screw you turn? How do you adjust or what is adjusted if it is hard going in gear?
that’s the only part i had an issue with understanding too aha i’m
sure it will be a lot clearer when i actually have the parts in my hands
Will this shifter work on V6 or Ecoboost Mustangs?
I can’t get the fucking 10mm bolt back in.
So to make it go up vs push down does it comes in a kit with this two options or has to be selected on a check out?
Pretty sure the OEM style is only pull up and the flat stick is push down.
At 6:10 did you snap the head off the screw in the pin removal tool?
Yep, I have installed a couple and it broke both times but was easy to remove
@@Zerogivengarage Looks like you snapped the bolt because you used a bolt that wasn't fully threaded!!!!! you maybe had two full turns before you got to the unthreaded part of the bolt and you kept turning.
I broke the screw also.
Body or Trans mount, any difference???
I didnt see any lube used in this video is it not needed?
Love the vids the best prices and a how to video as well. Appreciate you guys
Hey I have the Barton hybrid 3 shifter, and the DSS 4, aluminum driveshaft. Will the stifflers driveshaft loop work with these applications. Wanting to mount it to the trans also. Not body mount. SOS
Sorry I have never installed the Stifflers piece so I do not know if it will work.
CJ Pony Parts thank you anyway.
25:40 holy wheel hop!
Stock car on cold tires and cold roads lol
can you use the gt350 shift knob?
You would need our version which is drilled and threaded for a stock replacement.
Ya. It adds about 34 HP
What if wanted a black collar
You’re gonna scratch your swatch!
Will this work with the gt350 shift knob from cj pony parts?
Of course it will. If it threads onto stock, and barton has oem spec threads then the 350r knob will thread onto it.
is there one available for the 11-14 v6 mt82?
How can u make the throws even closer ?
is this shifter available for 2013 gt ?
Yes it is!!
www.cjponyparts.com/barton-industries-short-throw-shifter-hybrid-3-gt-2011-2014-boss-302-2012-2013/p/MS65/
Discouraged
sucks we cant get this for the 11-14 mt82 trans
I installed the Barton Short Throw on my '13 GT with the stainless solid mount. Works great!!
The Barton for the 11-14 Gt is on out website and works great!
Andrew Hernandez
Uhhh, yes we can...😑 Barton made a video for it and it's on their website. We just can't get the flat stick option yet...
Bill, is this much easier to do this while swapping aftermarket catback exhaust system?
It will give you a little more room but the driveshaft is more in the way.
That watch tan line is brutal Bill!! I have a bad one too
Yea its bad lol
you really need a lift on this install. maybe even a buddy to help underneath
I did it alone in my driveway. I recommend Husky 4 ton jack and lift.
@ObsequioGalanteo I did the same thing. 4 to 5 hours later, I was back on the road in no time. Just use patience and the rest will work itself out.
After watching this install I'm glad I went with an automatic.