Greatest improvement to my 2019 GT I had Shelby LasVegassdo the install a bit to much of a job for me 75 year old Gear Head I cannot get over how the shifting improvement is! Highly Recommended
Thanks for the video, just installed mine on a ‘17 GT. My rubber boot was different than the one in the video but I was able to modify it to make it work.
Hey Bill i m glad you guys are back with install videos. Even though i dont have a mustang i still enjoy watching your videos. In the video you credit steeda shifters for keeping your transmission from falling. Why is that? That's an intriguing statement hahaha
In my opinion a lot of the failures of the MT82 come from people shifting too aggressively with the stock shifter. There are plenty of other options out there, I have just always run Barton and have been happy with them. My 11, 13, and 15 all had Barton shifters.
I agree with what you said about people shifting too aggressive with the factory shifter. I position myself so I don’t overthrow on the 2-3 shift also, I don’t slam on it, and I haven’t broken anything. The OEM shifter is a POS! Just picked up a Barton for my 2018.
Because this was the first install I did completely on my own since my hand surgery and by the time we got to the tool list I was in so much pain I simply read the manufacturer by mistake lol . it happens
Hey I bought my 2018 GT PP1 with 20k miles on it in Sep 2022. My shifter is different, I have to PUSH down on the shifter to engage reverse. Not sure why or what it has installed. Any ideas??
New subscriber, love your videos! Sorry to ask another question about the seats. Thank you for answering the other one. Is there an adjustable lumbar on your recaro seats?
Hey bill..had a garage do the install and they used all springs. .i find very stiff and notchy..how hard is it to remove springs..can it be done from top inside cabin
Bill, how do you recommend getting the reverse collar out of the Barton? My 2015 came with a black o ring and the white one and when I installed the Barton I put the black o ring on and then the white one and I believe that is causing some issues with the reverse lockout collar.
@@cjponyparts Thanks Very Much! What effect does removing the shelby damper have on the operation of the transmission? I saw you guys remove it but didn't see you install it again. Cheers! 🙂
Thanks for a good video on this install Bill. I was hesitant to get a Barton short throw shifter but I’m gonna send it now lol. Just wanted to know if the instructions that come with the shifter mention the torque specs for all the bolts or do you happen to know what they are? Thanks in advance.
Hey Bill, are you guys offering installation as well? I can't find a trustworthy shop in Illinois. Wanna get the Barton, kooks chatted headers a Cai and a tune this year.
@@kodacres7820 well I did solve the problem…just cost me more ….bought a factory ordered 21 scat pack challenger with a 6 spd and the hellcat brakes lol. Before the interest rates went up
Hi CJs. What impact does removing the Shelby transmisson damper have? What is the function of it in the first place? I can't find any info anywhere else online Thanks in advance!.
I had an MGW on my terminator swapped 96 and it was a great shifter but Tazaxx21 is correct. The Barton shifters have always gotten the job done for me so there is no real reason to try something else.
I am too. I have the flat stick push down version. I'm going to be making sure the shop did it correctly. Mines is Trans-Mounted and the assholes forgot to put my upper boot back in there. But 1st to second at around 5K or more is a no go for me.
@@andrewmorgan5090 I figured out my problem today. You might want to make sure if you had someone install it they didn't do what my installer did and that is trans-body mount it ☠️☠️☠️ I uploaded the video on my channel today. I couldn't believe it. So my vehicle is going back to the shop to have everything adjusted correctly.
The body mount will have a little more play in the linkage but will have less NVH. I barely noticed any going trans mount though so I stayed with that.
According to the guy on the Barton video, when the body mount is used the linkage allows the trans to torque relative to the shifter, but the fore and aft movement is still nice and solid compared to the factory unit. The main difference is the vibration experienced through the shifter. Barton is the only shifter I've seen that replaces the entire OEM lower unit, and still allows a body mount option.
Will this fix the clutch fork failure issues people are having. They issue basically starts with 3rd and forth gear grinding and then they eventually go out. Will this prevent that?
A good quality shifter will help prevent damage to the internals, the Fork issue seems to be a production issue. I have had this shifter on my 18 for over 11,000 miles and no issues.
Damn. Used to be so easy to install a short throw shifter. Now, its a PITA.
Yea it's a lot of work but worth it IMHO.
Greatest improvement to my 2019 GT I had Shelby LasVegassdo the install a bit to much of a job for me 75 year old Gear Head I cannot get over how the shifting improvement is! Highly Recommended
Do I have to have those loud guitar riffs playing as I remove each part? I'll need a second person to turn them off and on at the right time.
Thanks for the video, just installed mine on a ‘17 GT. My rubber boot was different than the one in the video but I was able to modify it to make it work.
Man, 2 10mm's are needed for this install? I've searched the earth twice and still can't find 1, let alone 2! 😂
LOL
What’s the stimated cost on the install?
Hey Bill i m glad you guys are back with install videos. Even though i dont have a mustang i still enjoy watching your videos. In the video you credit steeda shifters for keeping your transmission from falling. Why is that? That's an intriguing statement hahaha
I meant barton not steeda lol
In my opinion a lot of the failures of the MT82 come from people shifting too aggressively with the stock shifter. There are plenty of other options out there, I have just always run Barton and have been happy with them. My 11, 13, and 15 all had Barton shifters.
I agree with what you said about people shifting too aggressive with the factory shifter. I position myself so I don’t overthrow on the 2-3 shift also, I don’t slam on it, and I haven’t broken anything. The OEM shifter is a POS! Just picked up a Barton for my 2018.
Will that work on my 17 GT?? I want the stock lockout and look????? I'm going to do a body mount.. I hate NVH... Great video though..
Is there a review before and after comparing the shifters?
Just when I thought it could be done at home 😢
It can be but you will need jack stands and patience.
@@cjponyparts Yeah but I'd be paranoid to move any of the other components, like when the transmission was lowered slightly.
He called the slip joint pliers a cresent wrench?
Visions lol right I was like Wtf
Glad your perfect
Not perfect just stating the facts. Usually he is right on the money
Because this was the first install I did completely on my own since my hand surgery and by the time we got to the tool list I was in so much pain I simply read the manufacturer by mistake lol . it happens
Crescent Tool Company
Curious if the stifflers driveshaft loop will work with the trans mounted Barton hybrid 3?
Hey I bought my 2018 GT PP1 with 20k miles on it in Sep 2022. My shifter is different, I have to PUSH down on the shifter to engage reverse. Not sure why or what it has installed. Any ideas??
New subscriber, love your videos! Sorry to ask another question about the seats. Thank you for answering the other one. Is there an adjustable lumbar on your recaro seats?
No there is no lumbar adjustment. You have up and down and the back is adjustable and that's it.
Bill Tumas Thank you so much
Good Choice for a Shifter
Hey bill..had a garage do the install and they used all springs. .i find very stiff and notchy..how hard is it to remove springs..can it be done from top inside cabin
You would need to remove the boot and trim plate and then unbolt the shifter from the base. It is tight but there is enough room.
@@cjponyparts thanks..will try it
Nice watch man
You look like Eric from the channel 'Nomadic Fanatic' bro
My brother has a 15 gt and after he had installed it is smooth in all gears but you gotta force the shit outta it to get in reverse
I would tell him to make sure the lockout is in the correct location, my car goes into reverse like butter and my 15 was the same way.
CJ Pony Parts I took a look at it and everything looks good but when you put it into reverse the lip on the lockout just slips off.
What bolts were used for top of trans mount arms ?
Bill, how do you recommend getting the reverse collar out of the Barton? My 2015 came with a black o ring and the white one and when I installed the Barton I put the black o ring on and then the white one and I believe that is causing some issues with the reverse lockout collar.
At 10:20 I installed the nuts on the driver hand side will there be a problem?
Are these recaro seats the same exact shape and fit as the recaro seats in the GT 350?
Same as the 15-17 cars, the Shelby ones are different.
Can this be mounted on the 10-14 cars?
Hey Bill 😊
If you choose to use the supplied trans mount, does that effectivley do the job or a blowfish bracket?
Yes it works the same way. The Blowfish converts the stock body mount to a floor mount, the Barton Hybrid gives you both options.
@@cjponyparts Thanks Very Much!
What effect does removing the shelby damper have on the operation of the transmission?
I saw you guys remove it but didn't see you install it again.
Cheers! 🙂
Hud Bill it had to be removed to install the shifter. We have not had any ill effects from removing it
Okay!
Thanks Guys, what is the intended purpose of the piece?
I can't seem to find that online anywhere?
Can you guys start doing aftermarket exhaust work/options??
We did an X pipe so far, as soon as more options are available we will.
Thanks for a good video on this install Bill. I was hesitant to get a Barton short throw shifter but I’m gonna send it now lol. Just wanted to know if the instructions that come with the shifter mention the torque specs for all the bolts or do you happen to know what they are? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for watching! If there are required torque specs the instructions will include them.
Hey Bill, are you guys offering installation as well? I can't find a trustworthy shop in Illinois. Wanna get the Barton, kooks chatted headers a Cai and a tune this year.
Sorry no we no longer offer installation, we use the shop for a video studio now. - Bill
CJ Pony Parts thanks for the answer Bill, any recommendations for a decent shop in the mid west?
Question..please advise why you get the manual instead of the auto..trying to decide? The auto is faster and stronger.
dry509 get the auto. You wont regret it
dry509 get a manual. It's a muscle car, not an exotic or some family car.
Trigger _ he actually will regret it because it's the wrong transmission to have in a muscle car. Manual all the way.
Brandon Curry unless you want a slower car. Manual is fun but not fast enough
Trigger _ don't know how you drive but the manual I drive has never kept me from winning races or made me slower.
NOW!..do you guys sell something to reduce the clutch throw length?
Yes. There is an adjustable throw out bearing. But if u don't know what you're doing it's a great way to cook a clutch
I know your post is 6 years old, but check out the clutch pedal riser they sell.
@@kodacres7820 well I did solve the problem…just cost me more ….bought a factory ordered 21 scat pack challenger with a 6 spd and the hellcat brakes lol. Before the interest rates went up
Would most 15-17 mustang exterior parts fit an 18 mustang?
Anything doors back will fit.
Would a chin splitter not fit then?
No the belly pan and factory front splitter are different.
Hi CJs.
What impact does removing the Shelby transmisson damper have? What is the function of it in the first place?
I can't find any info anywhere else online
Thanks in advance!.
I believe it is designed to be more of vibration damper with the stock shifter but I am not 100% sure, I have seen no issues from removing it.
What a pita this looks like
Am i screwed if i dont have the small white o-ring?
I have never tried without it. You can get an o ring at any decent parts store
Hey Bill is the Steeda clutch spring still needed for the 2018 Mustang or is the clutch feel not nearly as numb as the 15-17 Mustangs?
Good question... I am curious about that as well.
I will be adding one shortly and will let you know. The clutch is very light compared to the 15-17
The clutch spring is a MUST on the 18, feels so much better.
Alright good to know. Hey Bill are you going to put a Roush supercharger on your 2018 or you going to keep NA and make it a screamer?
Cool! Good to know. It will be one of the first things I do once I get one of my own.
Did you replace the DS while you were switching the shifter?
No I kept the stock one for now.
Bill when you gonna try out the mgw?
I don't think they do videos on parts they don't sell. Look up SVT Performance for video on the MGW...
...Or the MGW website itself....
I had an MGW on my terminator swapped 96 and it was a great shifter but Tazaxx21 is correct. The Barton shifters have always gotten the job done for me so there is no real reason to try something else.
Dope
i am having issues going into 2nd gear after installing this, anyone have the same issue?
I am too. I have the flat stick push down version. I'm going to be making sure the shop did it correctly. Mines is Trans-Mounted and the assholes forgot to put my upper boot back in there. But 1st to second at around 5K or more is a no go for me.
@@SaVarMatner trans mounted here too, ive checked it over three times and tried adjusting top plate multiple times and still no luck
@@andrewmorgan5090 I figured out my problem today. You might want to make sure if you had someone install it they didn't do what my installer did and that is trans-body mount it ☠️☠️☠️
I uploaded the video on my channel today. I couldn't believe it. So my vehicle is going back to the shop to have everything adjusted correctly.
Are there any benefits to going body mount? Would that not have the same level of reliability as trans mount?
The body mount will have a little more play in the linkage but will have less NVH. I barely noticed any going trans mount though so I stayed with that.
For the difference between body and trans mount check out Bartonshifters.com
According to the guy on the Barton video, when the body mount is used the linkage allows the trans to torque relative to the shifter, but the fore and aft movement is still nice and solid compared to the factory unit. The main difference is the vibration experienced through the shifter. Barton is the only shifter I've seen that replaces the entire OEM lower unit, and still allows a body mount option.
LoL was wondering when you were going to ditch the stock shifter.
As soon as possible lol
Sorry but the music killed the video, couldn't get past 4 minutes
Matt Perry wuss
Will this fix the clutch fork failure issues people are having. They issue basically starts with 3rd and forth gear grinding and then they eventually go out. Will this prevent that?
A good quality shifter will help prevent damage to the internals, the Fork issue seems to be a production issue. I have had this shifter on my 18 for over 11,000 miles and no issues.
so want to do this but sooo much work..my wrx was like a 5 minute install :(
Yea I can bang out the Focus short shift in about the same time. This is more work but so worth it.
Or get a Camaro with a TR6060 manual?
dry509 or just buy a 10 spd auto
Would have been nice to actually see the car move
The music is annoying asf.
Bro...slow down when you're talking.
So will this mod alone fix the issues of the mt82 such as the 3rd gear lockout?
Get an rst clutch