Elon: EVERYONE Gets FSD--THIS WEEK!!
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Internally at Tesla, they have lots of stats/charts measuring progress in FSD (disengagements etc). They had a line that needed to be crossed where they would be comfortable letting any Tom, Dick or Harry use FSD. We have now crossed that line!
Facts
Certainly a gamble by Tesla, but I think their optimism will be rewarded.
Been waiting for 5 years after paying 6000€ in Finland for FSD in my HW3 Model3 Performance. Would be kinda nice to have something to show for it soon. Not holding my breath thou...
With machine learning computer they will be able to train it in different markets way way faster
If iirc the biggest hurdle in EU is regulatory issues, which are being addressed currently but at a laggard pace.
Certain EU specific restrictions pretty much hobble even basic Autopilot capability.
Hopefully they fix that soon so Tesla can bring FSD to EU like it did for US and China.
Valid critique, Leksi. I hope you get your FSD soon. I suspect things will be happening soon, but there’s no guarantee🙁
I’m pro FSD, but I don’t think the take rate will be high. Until there are areas where I do not have to supervise the FSD at all.
My current mental load is I assess the road, I plan my actions, I execute my actions.
With supervised FSD, my mental workload is assess the road, assess what the FSD will do, assess what I will do if it deviates, monitor FSD, and finally decide to intervene or not.
All of this is cool For us tech kind of people but unless you’re really into computers and future stuff it’s just more workload.
I'm glad that they are offering free 12.3.1 FSD, but how about giving it to someone like me who has paid a full price for it, I'm still waiting for the install.
Probably wide release at the same time as free trial.🤔
Nope. Elon says my the end of the week, which means in two months.
I’m still waiting for 12.3 I’m currently on 11.4.9 !!! 😡
I tested Grok and it's better than Open AI. Tesla needs to give it a human-like voice, and integrate it in Teslas so you can just tell it where to go or ask it anything.
How much do they charge to test Grok?
Especially if you already have it on X
Really like your studio at this point! The mic, camera, and lighting are all top notch. Thanks for the improvements!
I think they should have waited 3 to 6 months to do this. 12.3 is amazing but still has some issues.... you sort of only get one shot to make a good impression here
What issues did you have with it?
I’ve had fsd since July 2019. I had to pass a safety exam before it would activate. I put some mileage going in circles in a parking lot to get uninterrupted safe miles to hurry up the activation.
Thank you
And I was going to start whining because we bought our new Tesla in June 23! Great info, thanks!!
So just US Not North America so that sucks for us Canadians
I got FSD V12.3 a few days ago. Looking forward to 12.3.1 in “two weeks”.
Thank you for the video and all the information. For the most part I really like 12.3 but the speed is really strange. I first set it to auto and didn't like that's why I turned it off. I have it set for three over but it never even reaches the posted speed. If I'm on a 50 mile per hour road it's set for 53 but the car only goes to 46 or 47 and I have to press the accelerator to get it up to 53 but after about a mile it goes back down to 50 or below. It's frustrating that it won't do the three over any more.
I'm roadtripping Friday hope I have FSD!!! 🎉
I like it. a Step in the right direction 😊
Great for US customers but what about Canadian who already paid for FSD and don’t use it anymore since v11 is too frightening for passengers ?
Tesla needs to offer a bundle deal, to give a discount on insurance to those who choose to keep their FSD after the free trial. The synergy should increase the take rate.
If supervised FSD is safer than average human as the data show then it should be added to their safety score.
No need to do bundle deal. Insurance price would be automatically calculated be lower with FSD.
Absolutely!
Nice concept but Tesla's insurance is no bargain. My wife's rating is 99 in her Mod X/fsd. Rates have gone up consistently and now paying over $3000/yr despite clean record. Going to put her back on on other policy unless rates go down dramatically.
@@bennybob60 Same here. I did some policy shopping and noticed that premiums are increasing across the board for everyone.
How can they turn on fsd for the customer like that? When i got my MY the cameras had to calibrate.
Just had an update on my 2019 3 p. Free month of fsd. Just gave it a go, and it works great, surprisingly. I will take advantage of the free month but cant see spending 200 a month/12000 for the system.
I'm torn I'm very excited but also a bit afraid I've had several safety critical interventions on FSD 12.3 I'm absolutely stunned with all of the improvements with this build except the safety critical interventions 55 mile an hour Highway and often have the car Lurch in front of oncoming traffic I can't believe I'm the only one having this issue still right . Again I am all in Tesla I'm just concerned about this
Yes! I just had a safety critical interventions in FSD going to the store. I want this technology to work as much as everyone, but I'm a tad worried about trying to push this on everyone. Most people that are watching FSD videos and Tesla videos are technology people. most people that own Teslas are normal people and they are going to just expect it to work and it doesn't. Scared this move could backfire on Tesla.
Actually even for past purchases. I am in Canada and purchased my Tesla in August last year and I got the one month free trial today after downloading software update 2024.3.10
This is good but, I suggest Tesla push FSD v12 for all of us who paid for it 2-3-4 years ago in Canada. I use v11 every day, I love it, but the truth is that I am waiting for v12 just because I live in Canada. It is unfair.
And let us get some upgrades in Europe godammit. I know regulations are in the way, but at least let us have the visualizations.
I live in Michigan and I still am on V11. If Elon says this week, he means I'm two months.
I already have self driving….
I’ve had self driving since 1987. I my “self” does all the driving. 😂
This is one funny guy
Awesome.
Will a 2018 model y be able to get the free month of fsd?
I have a legacy car without an in cabin camera and they've moved vehicles like mine from the 2023.44.x branch to the 2024.2.x branch. I have FSD on my vehicle (2020 MS), but it seems the 2024.2.xx brach is stuck with v11 for now.
I have 2019 M3LR with the cabin camera and I didn’t get v12 but I am on the 2024.2.7 branch. I believe you may be right. I’m curious tho to see if it does get pushed to us as well. Fingers crossed 🤞
The highway that I have to cross I approached at a pretty obtuse angle about 30° and then have to cross the 55 mph Highway at a right angle it doesn't seem to spot the vehicles or locate them on the proper lane
@ragingstorm924 I learned on an X Space yesterday (Tesla Live with Yaman) that there are faster ways to calibrate the cameras for FSD without having to first drive 100 miles. It requires some space be set up at the showrooms to place a series of dots in a room where the car can pull into and do a quick calibration.
Can Australian owners access Telsla FSD v12.3.1?
i just took delivery of a model Y on Saturday. I had to drive 20 miles (ish) to calibrate the cameras. So they'd have to take this on quite a test drive or pre-drive each vehicle?
That's true, but they can use the demo car. They don't need to use the one they purchased.
Elon puts post saying they're no longer compute restrained. Then says they're putting on FSD on all the cars. Id be interested know if it being installed allows them to collect data to help train FSD quicker. A snow ball affect. Then FSD could get better much faster.
I think that's the idea
FSD enablement isn't required to help train. It can operate in shadow mode. That said, it would need to at least be preinstalled.
@@RobertLoPinto yeah I was thinking just getting it installed on as many cars as possible might be a behind the scenes goal. Regardless of whether or not the owner uses it or not.
@@ragingstorm924 I also learned on an X Space yesterday that there are faster ways to calibrate the cameras without having to drive 100 miles. It requires some space be set up at the showroom to place a series of dots in a room where the car can pull into and do a quick calibration.
@@RobertLoPinto Elon has said before about getting more training data the more cars they have on the road. But now they've changed the way they train FSD. Basically now they need more data to feed their data centre to train FSD up. I'm guessing that they can no longer use data for training unless they're all updated to the new system. If they can go from 10% to 50% of Tesla's that'll be huge it's already getting better very quickly.
I have an appointment to pick up my '24 Model 3LR Saturday! Can't wait for the FSD demo. I thought I heard someplace that a full month of FSD came with new cars, I hope that is true, too.
I picked up my '24 Model 3 LR on March 1st. No FSD yet.
I got my software updated yesterday and got the fsd beta.
Thank you for your channel. I watch it almost everyday and find it both technically informative and willing to explain things in a way that layman can understand. I also like the variety of topics from Robots, SpaceX, Tesla and the worlds these topics touch.
As a California 12.3.1 driver (since Sunday 3/24): It is very good, but there are 3 categories of driving that need to be addressed. I don't disagree with the need to get this code out to the general public as fast as possible. Given how good 12.3.x is, Tesla has made phenomenal progress and I can see the attention they've paid to pedestrian and obstacle safety. It is almost flawless. Hopefully my 3 issues are taken to be constructive. These issues are not dire safety issues (except perhaps #2), but they are enough of an issue that they will be noticed very quickly by any driver using 12.3.x for the 1st time and it may be hard to reverse any negative feelings that they cause:
I am running 12.3.1 in a Model S with HW 4. It is in 'Average' Profile and 'Automatic Set Speed Offset' is set to ON.
1. roadside & driveway curbs - while 12.3.x is good 99% of the time, it doesn't take much driving to hit that 1% and a corresponding wheel rash hit. These happen on turns (mostly right turns), and it can be nerve racking especially coming out of parking lots onto roadways.
2. speed control In different neighborhoods - I find 12.3.x is going faster than my comfort level in many street situations (2 lane roads 40-43MPH in a 35 zone; 4 lane roads 44-47MPH in a 40 zone; and highway 75MPH in a 65 zone). Also there seems to be little regard for rainy weather as it sets speeds similarly to those just mentioned without regard to road conditions..
3. lane control - 12.3.x will waver in a fast weave as it approaches a traffic light with 2 lanes open as if it can't make up its mind which lane to stop in. I've had 2 situations where it stopped literally straddling the line between the two lanes. I find it doing the same weave at road speeds when there are no other cars around. It is a bit disconcerting but not dangerous.
If you find these comments helpful, I don't mind someone reposting them if it will help get the word out. I do not have an X account.
Thank you
When can current owners get V12?
I think they should hold off on this until it works better. It still will not make it out of my subdivision with 12.3 without having to disengage. It still can’t see speed dips.
Do you think that the current hardware on the car (meaning the cameras, hw3 or 4) are sufficient to eventually deliver something like level 4 fsd? This is the key question for me since any additional cameras (or perhaps other sensor but I tend to think not) will mean either one of the following:
1. Expensive retro fit for all cars with FSD purchased
2. Expensive refund of FSD cost for all cars as above
3. Fighting a legal battle against the inevitable class action if 1 and/or 2 do not happen.
At this point, after 7 years, I’ll believe it when I see it.
Same. It boggles my mind how these people just take anything at face value.
When you buy FSD subscription it just reboots the computer than suddenly it’s there it only takes like 2 minutes
I didn't get my free trial yet. 2021 Model Y here in NC. Anyone else not get theres yet? Aren't ALL Tesla supposed to get it (besides super old ones)?
My Y was delivered to my home. The person delivering it jumped into an Uber and fled before I could even say Hi. Then I spent 20 minutes figuring out how to break into the car. partly because of inconsistency in he app and screen user interfaces -- another topic.
I keep trying to test drive. FSD V12 at every Tesla dealer and when I call them. They don't know what versions are on their test cars and they're unwilling to go find out. When I go into the store they don't know what version they have and they don't know how to figure it out. It's really frustrating.
Did anyone else notice fsd 12.3 being slower in city driving? Mine is consistently below speed limit for some reason or at the speed limit in best case.
I'm curious if the high price of FSD was partially to limit the number of people getting it as it developed and if it will likely drop in price despite being much better. If they want almost everyone using it they would have to even if it's level 4 or 5. Most people paying $25,000 for the Model 2 agent going to be willing to pay almost 50% more for FSD.
I got FSD 12.3 two days ago. The first time I tried to put it into cruise control, it went into FSD mode. The control for switching from one pull for cruise vs. two for FSD has been disabled. So I manually changed the mode from FSD to cruise. Now I cannot switch back to FSD as that function has also been disabled. This is really disappointing as I am leaving for a two week trip in a few days. They are releasing this software without sufficient testing. And there’s really no way to even report these problems on their app.
That's crazy. Why would they think this was a good idea? It isn't difficult to double tap but there are many instances that I want cruise control but not FSD but I don't want to disable FSD completely just to use cruise control once.
This is unfortunately intentional.
If true, it means they need -even- more data for the edge cases.
Can anyone explain to me exactly what happened when they did the v12 update? They spoke of vastly reducing the code line count (removing 300K) by switching to neural net programming. Is neural net just a different programming tactic or is it more like replacing the FSD computer's operating system? Obviously they switched to this without doing any hardware change to the existing fleet. Does this mean neural net programming is just replacing the installed FSD program with a more advance neural net version? Consequently, does this mean any computer that functions with C++ (or whatever the 11 and earlier versions were coded with) are capable of operating as a neural net device enabling much more computing ability without hardware upgrading?? Was the original FSD computer designed to be a neural net device but just enabled with "old school" programming until neural net was better stabilized?
I have subscribed for a month in the past and would like to try it again but I was waiting to try to make sure that I would get v12 or better. GREAT TO HEAR THAT I can get a month free.
Be careful. Elon also said I'd get V12 by Thanksgiving, so I subscribed and still nothing. So you might need to wait another couple months.
"All US cars" would seem to imply that they're going to need to merge the 2023.x firmware branches (where FSD v12.3 currently lives) and the 2024.x branches (which is still on FSD v11.4.9) soon to do that. Looking on the TeslaFi website, all the 12.3 rollouts are currently constrained to the 2023.x branch and the previous firmware versions were all 2023.x as well.
I have 2024 Highland with FSD transfer. I have been waiting since March 5th. None yet. Ready for Hardware 4 yet??
It's not a HW4 thing-a greater percentage of HW4 cars are getting 12.3 than those on HW3. The problem is that all 12.3 updates are being done on software branch 2023.x, none on 2024.x; and if you're like me, you were updated to 2024.7 or .8 not long after purchase; so we won't get 12.3 until Tesla ports 12.3 to software branch 2024.x. Hopefully that won't take long, with this new announcement.
It should be a license and transferable to the next Tesla . Or a lease maybe for a number of years. I wonder if it will do self parking
on any of the hardware levels now? Also which hardware levels qualify?
How is this going to work? As far as I know you still have to drive up to 20 miles to calibrate the cameras before FSD will work. Is the dealer going to have to calibrate each car before delivery by driving it up to 20 miles? If not then the demo drive is going to be awfully long in order to get past the calibration and on to the demo.
I think it's a precautionary measure for eventual insurance purposes. Similar training should be needed for a first time firearm purchase. Cars are no less deadly in ignorant hands.
So not for Canada, eh? 😕
Looks like those on software version 2024.2 branch will also get it!!
Yeah but what canada? We can’t even subscribe on a monthly basis, this is ridiculous
They should do a
"free fsd Februarys "
FSD Beta v12.x is only available on the 2023.x branch of Tesla OS software. This would mean they are branching v12 to the 2024.x OS. Or has v12 been added to 2024 already? Othereise. only a limited number of people will get v12.x Beta.
According to Tesla scope, it will be available on 2024.2 branch
We need tesla to update every disengage to fsd with every upgrade. My tesla making the same error everytime.
Elon is a hard core OPTIMIST. I / we love him for that. I hope way more good comes from this BOLD MOVE than bad…
Referring to the FSD for all US Tesla owners receiving one month without additional training.
I would think a at minimum a mandatory information/training video would be prudent…
He is who he is.
I bet the FSD demo wont be in the customers car. You would have to drive around too long to get the cameras calibrated. It would be far easier to do this on a handful of demo cars with everything set up.
I had the same thoughts. The cameras are calibrated at the factory, not all deliveries require the cameras to recalibrated before autopilot can be used. Why some need it and others don't is up for speculation.
Everyone should get a free month when purchasing a Tesla
I'm in a similar situation where should I look to increase income? Do you have any advice? What did you do? Thank you
Fsd still keeps messing up for me 12.3.1 on multiple occasions went on wrong turn lanes, missed freeway exits but was rarely unsafe except for one instance here it stopped mid intersection as light turned yellow. Imagine a new customer seeing that. Might be a turnoff when it’s not ready yet. Hopefully they fix em soon
Yeah similar gripe. It's smoother overall, but I have a route I drive everyday that 11.4.9 nails and 12.3 is choosing the wrong lane to to go straight consistently... and even worse it still tries to go straight!
I can see this will end up better, but right now, in the Boston suburb of Framingham MA it's not really better IMO.
FSD, this is still pie in the sky from a cost standpoint, no matter how great it is. Most of us are barely able to afford a 3 or Y, but an extra $12k is crazy. I get it if you are a fan boy with money to burn, but come on, in the real world Elon will sell relatively few no matter how many trials he give out.
Everyone? I bet not on Iceland.
Come on Elon. What about Australia? I'm ready to drop the cash for fsd as soon as it is available in Australia.
I'm still on11.4.4
I think a free month of FSD is great advertising!!
The price is the biggest issue its way too expensive especially if you own multiple teslas
What do you expect to be the effect on Tesla stock price?
I don’t know how this is going to work. I just picked up my model 3 and you need to drive about 100 miles to calibrate the cameras.
The calibration process works by measuring and comparing the distance of compliant highway lane marking on each side of the vehicle. If you aren't driving on roads or highways with daylight visible, consistent and compliant markings on both sides, the calibration will take longer. You can get the process done in as little as 5 miles by driving in the middle lane of a three lane freeway during the day.
I think it is a bit premature. They should have worked on it for a few more months seeing as they have said that progress should be much quicker than in the past seeing as they are no longer compute constrained. Based on the FSD 12 videos I have watched I think a few more months would have been beneficial prior to launching this 1 month free trial.
Hopefully Tesla will get FSD to work but before that how about just getting the windshield wipers to work correctly
Thanks for continuing updates. I'd rather trade the stock market as it's more profitable. I make an average of $30,100 per week even though I barely trade myself.
2 months free might kill some FSD sales. 'OK, I've tried it, it's not level 4, I'll pass for now.'
For every person that says that, 10 will tell everyone how amazing it is.
I just picked up my 2024 Model 3 and I have no FSD even though it was transferred to my new car. (Of course I want v12.1.3 but it would be nice if I even had v11.4.9 now which I had in my previous car.) But if a Tesla showroom can install and activate v12.1.3 in a demo car, why couldn't they have installed v12.1.3 in my car when I took delivery?
A free month for everyone will increase subscriptions but the high cost will still limit the growth by a lot.
You get fsd..you get fsd....and youu get fsd!
I don't understand why european laws won't let me use FSD giving me responsibility for the car as it all ready is while i'm doing the driving!!!!! WTF!!!
Never expect EU laws to be grounded in sense!
I doubt Tesla’s quite ready for us to have it in Europe yet though. Probably will be before long…! 😊
EU is the answer.
The EU level 2 DCAS (Driver Control Assistance Systems) were approved and signed off earlier this month. Implementation is in 6 months so expect to see FSD (supervised) coming to the EU in September/October
Elon specifically says US. No love for Canada? I have v11.4.9 in my 2018 model 3, I'll be picking up my 2024 model 3 highland on Friday (3 days from now), hope it's on v12 (I'm able to transfer my FSD to my new car, Tesla Q1 perk for new vehicle purchases).
So I can FSD from Detroit to Ohio for the solar eclipse in 2 weeks for free? Oustanding!
Im afraid the takerate is simply limited by the pricepoint of FSD no matter how good it is. its a bit too pricy imo
Tesla can automate the collection and analysis of test drive feedback using the microphone of the car and AI.
"...Musk said that all current owners of FSD-capable cars will get temporary access to FSD, for one month, starting this week....." I bought one last month. Wonder if they would do the demo for me any way?
Ow, my eyes, dark mode .. ;-)
regret that I'm not in US
Will Tesla simultaneously be upgrading current FSD owners running on Hardware 3? Because my understanding is that Hardware 3 owners won't be getting version 12.3, is that correct. Tesla still needs to put out better info.
HW3 cars are actively being upgraded to 12.3. According to TeslaFi, 22% of HW3 cars have been upgraded at this point, vs. 28% of HW4 cars. They're being installed at 3% to 4% a day, so it may take 2-3 weeks to get everyone upgraded.
@@Big_Ben_from_La_Mesa Thanks so much for clarifying.
Can you please help push Tesla to offer FSD rental pricing (in addition to per month) for 1 year, 1 week & 1 day?
What about privacy issues, Does Elon allow the car to monitor/stream the occupants conversations, allow driving data to be collected by insurance companies. Can the car be disabled by a kill switch. It seems privacy today is going the way of the dodo ?
Lost in the shuffle is the new requirement for Tesla sales representatives to test drive new buyers….and include FSD from day one. I’ve assisted 5 friends pick up their new Model Y’s and it always scares me that they drive away in a completely new EV with not even a hint of instructions. It’s a different driving experience.
Tesla gas been having the same (or better) FSD offer couple of years already.
Long as you don't take away manual override. You probably can't. But know this, automakers - If I can't drive the car myself even on normal roads and highways, I'm not buying it. You can forget it. And there will be plenty of older stuff available for decades to come, and the technology to keep them on the road and even nice, is only getting better and better.
Sorry I will not Pay $10K for a Beta program ? Maybe as soon as its perfected and I can take a nap while FSD is driving yes then I would buy the program 🥰🤩🥳
I got 3 Teslas and only one has the full package of FSD and could care less about it being free for a week 😂😂
John, I got 12.3.1 a day ago. I wonder why you haven't gotten it. I am nothing special.
I have two concerns: 1- that not all Tesla delivery employees have experience actually using FSD, 2- that the delivery process time will double or triple, thus reducing delivery numbers. I hope Elon took this into consideration before sending his "troops to the war".
Is Tesla starting to lean toward calling it: SSD "Supervised Self Driving" and hopefully come down in price on the software? It would be more intellectually honest.
"Everyone gets FSD" - Meanwhile, in Australia, crickets.
12k is still too much. I'm surprised at how high the takerate is for such a price. Some claim it's 14% in north america. I suppose it makes sense when buyers of Teslas are aspirational and might often have a lot of money. They might be used to paying 200k for a car so 12k ekstra just feeds their need on a Model X. But for mainstream it can only be way too much. I suspect it wont shift the takerate much.