The Good & BAD of Tesla FSD 12.3.3!

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  • @DrKnowitallKnows
    @DrKnowitallKnows  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

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    • @wylieecoyote
      @wylieecoyote หลายเดือนก่อน

      I disagree with the rolling through stop signs. 2 wrongs don't make a right.. nor does 99.5% (allegedly). That cannot be correct.. most people I see stop as they are supposed to - I always stop. We have 40,000 fatalities a year to attest to people's failing to follow the law. You will only save seconds by rolling through and that is NOT worth a life. You will miss people and children that may be obscured.
      The car was swinging wide at the intersection because it was having trouble the with curb edge.
      The car is not nervous - it determines you appear distracted.. which you are.. waiving around, talking and looking around.
      At one point you comment about it stopping for stop signs and saying it should roll through, then when it rolls slowly for the parking arm, you say you are nervous because it did not stop. Both situations were handled perfectly as required by law and then as required to trigger gates and parking control devices.
      You jump to conclusions too quickly. Consider holding a thought, thinking upon it, then commenting instead of repeating every thought. You don't need to fill every moment with commentary.

  • @gitexercise9021
    @gitexercise9021 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Would you consider adding time stamps in the future? Don't really have time to watch a 30 min video. Time stamps of the good and the bad, and any closing thoughts at the end. Great job!

    • @Jacob99.
      @Jacob99. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Seconded, I’ll subscribe if there were timestamps of key moments. Or! A pinned comment with the time stamps indicating the cool moments and potential pitfalls of FSD! Great video tho

    • @kaeferyeah8811
      @kaeferyeah8811 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Is there not an AI for that? Like doing and re editing it afterwards.

    • @DanielAlves1
      @DanielAlves1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For this type of video, I don't think it's necessary. Timestamps work well for sections, not specific moments.

  • @tomhansen45
    @tomhansen45 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I feel like you are at the top 10% of the aggressive driver list. I like when the car is more cautious than you indicate is your preference.

  • @richardrhodes-gc2ko
    @richardrhodes-gc2ko หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I believe changing turn lanes in the middle of an intersection is universally a no go situation.

    • @ThomasKelly.
      @ThomasKelly. หลายเดือนก่อน

      Changing lanes within (usually 50 feet as indicated with the 50 foot solid lines) a certain distance BEFORE an intersection is a no go. Though starting a lane change as the car exits the intersection isn’t usually an issue.

    • @SyntheticSpy
      @SyntheticSpy หลายเดือนก่อน

      There a many states where it is not illegal so long as it is safe to do so

  • @ramacvr12
    @ramacvr12 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Tesla needs to fix the navigation and the maps , should be relatively simple compared to FSD

  • @jyoung11
    @jyoung11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You really should keep the navigation page on. Most of the mistakes nowadays is from faulty navigation

  • @compelled2tell
    @compelled2tell หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love your videos. They help me have more confidence and prepare me for possible mistakes when driving my LRMY. Still chewing lots of gum. I lived in Athens for 30 yrs, now in AL, so the tour around town is wonderful. Go DAWGS!

  • @rakeshpatel-pr1km
    @rakeshpatel-pr1km หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thx for getting me an update 12.3.3 I was waiting to get it as usually I get but because of your video got it pushed into my vehicle

  • @tedyoung4239
    @tedyoung4239 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John, nice latest rev update
    thank you

  • @ai-solar-pl
    @ai-solar-pl หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Have you thought about an experiment, where the car in front of you is "cooperated with you" - so you can see how much bad driving it takes for FSD to quit following him?

    • @sicsempertyrannus226
      @sicsempertyrannus226 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And would FSD ever pass on a two-lane road with a dashed middle line, say if the car in front was going 10 MPH under? Probably not.

  • @miket611
    @miket611 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the awesome commentary. The one thing I have always wondered about FSD is if it will ever have the capability to have local area “memory,” if you will. Like that pothole on your route for example or the navigation issue pulling into the gym or the other navigation issue when it tried to turn left. Would be super cool if you could have more refined route navigation for often travelled paths. Either it could be driver specific sourced or area specific sourced, but I am imagining some sort of cache.

    • @PelicanNorth
      @PelicanNorth หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly this! Coming into my neighborhood, there is a deeply recessed manhole cover at an intersection. It's exactly in my optimal left-turn path, such that my turned left front wheel will hit it every time, unless I ever so slightly steer around it. Hitting it everyday will absolutely shorten my tire life and create steering alignment problems.
      But FSD 12.3.3 will hit it every single time, so I have to disengage before that turn.
      Having said this, it's amazing that we've jumped to this level of critique in this short of time.

    • @brianp8384
      @brianp8384 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have long hoped it will eventually get a "shadow mode" where you can train it about specific local issues. I share a private driveway with 5 other homes but FSD obviously thinks it is a public roadway with a 25mph speed limit. It's also too narrow for two cars to pass so everyone drives in the center and, in the rare event someone is coming the opposite way, one of us just backs up. FSD instead tries to drive on the right side as if it were a public road and oncoming traffic would be able to squeeze by. And while FSD has a correct pin where my house is located, it stops at the end of the main shared drive and won't continue the last 200 yards to my house. All very minor issues but it will really be something when it can drive to my house, open my garage door, and park.

    • @ThomasKelly.
      @ThomasKelly. หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know FSD is trained with a fixed set of parameters for interference to drive. I’m blown away how well it works now with 12.3.3 and how it can virtually drive anywhere. I did notice on a particular route, it waited till the last moment to move into the left lane to avoid taking a right fork, now it seems to anticipate this future intersection much better and moves into the left lane sooner as if it does have a memory?! There wasn’t a version change for this better behavior, so perhaps it just goofed for the first time coincidently. But it would be nice to think it learned locally how to handle the intersection the second time!

  • @ctuna2011
    @ctuna2011 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was on the last part of the drive in town and it did one of those pull in on the right not a lane things and had to abort the self driving
    and turn right to not mess up the other cars to. Although I am generally really impressed it's not glitch free. It has left me in some awkward
    position's a few time so now when I get to iffy area's I disengage.

    • @FriedChairs
      @FriedChairs หลายเดือนก่อน

      This just happened to me. Changed into a right turn only lane when it needs to go straight.

    • @keongregory3871
      @keongregory3871 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had a similar issue where the car was traveling in a right-turn-only lane while navigation indicated it should continue straight.
      I was on the main artery, with cars waiting at stop signs on the left and right.
      Because I was in a turn lane, the vehicle on the right proceeded to cross my path and I had to disengage FSD because the my car was not going to turn.
      So far, in two drives, I’ve had to disengage for rather serious mistakes. I’m glad others are having a better experience because my limited use of FSD thus far has only proven to me it’s not ready for wide release.
      12.3.3 is going to confirm whatever belief you have: If you think this is amazing, then you’ll be amazed at how well it does. If you think no car can ever drive itself, it will do something to confirm that bias as well.
      I can only say that the best way I can describe it right now is like letting a 15-year-old drive you around town. Hopefully it grows up fast!

  • @louckslion9281
    @louckslion9281 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it. FSD getting better all the time. This is what I was buying in September 2020. Long time wait but a great journey.

    • @grapehub1649
      @grapehub1649 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thinking about buying one you got a good pick which as the feature but also a bit less expensive

  • @DanielASchaeffer
    @DanielASchaeffer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'd Bet the end to end software could learn to use radar input without being fooled by bridges

  • @meganote
    @meganote หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got the v12.3.3 free trial. I've had a few drives that were just perfect and left me quite amazed at how well it did. I've also had a few that had several quite janky, uncomfortable moments, forcing intervention and/or pissing off other drivers as noted by the honking sound emanating from their vehicle. Like others have said, "it's great until it isn't!" Looking forward to rapid improvements.

  • @PaulHigginbothamSr
    @PaulHigginbothamSr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Dr be all to all, not pulling out is to save a crash because the cars coming in the inside lane might pull into your lane. Pissing off traffic behind is ok for your safety. I am 77 so I might be diff than ya'll.

  • @mikemulrooney4824
    @mikemulrooney4824 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good vid. Have the white seats held up well.

  • @helicopterjohns
    @helicopterjohns หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My first experience with FSD and have a few questions.
    Are you able to adjust the following distance with the right scroll wheel on the steering wheel as I think it wants to follow a little bit to close?
    I have mine set on chill mode. It seems to be a little aggressive when it comes to starts and stops.
    Instead of a gentle stop it seems??? to wait till the last minute and then apply a bunch of regen braking to stop the car.
    When it starts from a red light or stop sign it is FULL speed ahead till it reaches the designated speed limit and then lets off the acceleration. This can't be too good for excellent range results. Ha HA. I know at first people complained the acceleration was too slow but I think they may have overshot the goal when they fixed that. BTW I selected Chill mode.
    When making a left turn on to a divided highway it wants to stay in the left lane too long and not move the the right lane preparing for a right turn not too far down the road. It waited till the last moment when traffic was pretty tightly spaced in the the right lane to make the move to the right lane. A little too close for me.
    P.S. I am going to turn 78 this month and I am no stranger to fast high performance cars. I recognize that this system is still in development and provided a truly amazing first ride. I am confident most of these small issues will get worked out over time. Go Tesla!

  • @rickkay9548
    @rickkay9548 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic job here!

  • @charliepellerin8041
    @charliepellerin8041 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This works fine until it doesn't -- was correctly following a route in an exit lane -- then, unaccountably, turned on a left turn signal and tried to go back onto the highway - my prompt intervention prevented a real
    mess!

    • @digitaldreamer8637
      @digitaldreamer8637 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. This is why NHTSA requires millions of miles of validated data on a system with sensor redundancy to approve anything that is "Hands Off" or "Eyes Off". Given Tesla does not have sensor redundancy and does not provide data to NHTSA, means that anything less than HW4 will never be "Hands Off" or "Eye Off". Sad but true.

  • @ajaylal5892
    @ajaylal5892 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These moments, where you feel embarrassed or anxious, is only because of how other people may perceive your driving.
    One day, when most cars are driving autonomously, these feelings will not matter

  • @drjml351
    @drjml351 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After viewing you very appreciated video I went out to the gate at our community guard house and the car did NOT stop for the gate.

  • @Schneck112
    @Schneck112 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We got approved for the test month of FSD. It’s was cool but scary when it doesn’t slow down for tight turns. We just got an update last night to 12.3.3. I wonder why Tesla didn’t update our software first before approval h the test phase. We look forward to further testing.

  • @slowercuber7767
    @slowercuber7767 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @2:17 I WISH AUTOSPEED WERE TOO SLOW. One can fix that with a little pressure on the accelerator, but if it is too fast in auto you have to disengage, because the scroll wheel has no effect. So far it has been much too fast in my semi-rural and suburban drives so I've had to use the "manual" speed option, which leaves me to work the scroll wheel -- like an animal.

    • @PelicanNorth
      @PelicanNorth หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I turned off auto-speed as well because I really value the ability to fine-tune speed up, and especially down, with my right scroll wheel. I figure this a point-in-time compromise that will change as FSD gets inevitably better.

    • @slowercuber7767
      @slowercuber7767 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PelicanNorth Yes, Please Elon, if I have my car in CHILL mode and FSD(S) set to Chill, then try to accelerate a little gentler when not in a big city and most importantly, try to at least pretend to be approximating the speed limit on those little windy country roads, small town lanes and suburban streets.

  • @jimbo92107
    @jimbo92107 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr, you could test the FSD parking lane bug by having a buddy park a car in the "lane" to see if your Tesla tried to use the lane, or would swerve around it, sit behind it, etc. That would make a good TH-cam short.
    Otherwise, a pretty good test. You barely touched the controls on the first leg.

  • @richbl1690
    @richbl1690 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been doing it for quite a while. I'm still on v11.1 BTW I'm way southeast of you in Savannah.

  • @OSPerry
    @OSPerry หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have been using it for 4 days. I think it is really incredible that my car is able to do this with FSD. Quite the technological feat. I have to disengage it quite often, because of it holding up traffic at intersections, not pulling into the correct lane, once turning off an off ramp, driving too slow and not keeping up with the rate of traffic automatically, avoiding potholes. Now it did avoid a piece of debris it saw in the road, it does make some incredible decisions. I know I'm on version 12.3, and have no inkling prior to this, but it doesn't seem ready for prime time. Part of me is impressed at what Tesla has been able to pull off, but it still seems Beta, if Tesla is expecting me to play $200 a month. I just have to intervene too much and not annoy my fellow drivers behind and around me, and the nags are a little frequent. I really think it is impressive, but still a way to go, but I'm guessing since they are not compute constrained and will have millions of cars sending back data, it will get better quickly now.

  • @elonfanboy7061
    @elonfanboy7061 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thx Doc. IMO what matters is if it’s making regular progress…and your work helps me see that it is. Would you agree that Tesla will need to start its robotaxi network with human minders to satisfy regulators and insure it’s not a nightmare of lawsuits in the first week? If so- should Tesla start that soon?

  • @curtisyoung7107
    @curtisyoung7107 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish Tesla would add a control to start and stop a sentry mode like recording session to record corner cases of odd end user behavior with a full dataset of what the car sees and does. Including the audio for narration basis would be a great method of automating searching and sorting large amounts of raw data to identify and prioritize new modifications to target.
    😅

  • @ericrice1827
    @ericrice1827 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You said it is not a lane (7:20); however, it looks like a car behind you did the exact same maneuver.

    • @mozbius
      @mozbius หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice catch!!! To be honest I went straight to the comments section to see what were the opinions in regard of that lane issue… I can understand why one would not drive there but considering that the car was going to turn right I think that is actually the right way of doing it.

    • @RobertLoPinto
      @RobertLoPinto หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      6:54. That's the correct timestamp.

    • @edwinungerer7989
      @edwinungerer7989 หลายเดือนก่อน

      saw as well

    • @jimbo92107
      @jimbo92107 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tempting to say, "No harm, no foul" in that situation, but...what if there was a car parked in that "lane?" Would FSD pull up behind it and just sit there? Good topic for a test!

    • @mozbius
      @mozbius หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimbo92107 I agree!!! Dr KIA can you test that scenario?

  • @skoshk1950
    @skoshk1950 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In terms of not rolling through stop sign, I remember the government actually forced Tesla to make FSD do a full stop unfortunately 😢

  • @stevecha3612
    @stevecha3612 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As we get closer to unsupervised FSD I brainstorm some of the practical uses that would immediately enhance my life.
    1. Being able to send the car off to pick up or drop off items locally. There needs to be an app (Tesla or Uber) that both the car owner and the destination location can confirm so that when the car arrives, someone at the location knows what to do. Ex: remove mail packages from truck, put groceries in the trunk fridge. Once the task is completed, they can initiate the car to go to its next destination.
    2. Pick up or drop off items far away. Trips (2+ hours away) that would require charging along the way. Either a supercharger would need to be attended so they can plug/unplug the car, or for Tesla to implement wireless stationary superchargers so the car can just park over the charger and start charging on its own (preferred).
    Either of these two scenarios don’t require FSD to have a perfect drive. Things such as waiting at a stop sign for too long or going over a speed bump too quickly (things that annoy us in the driver seat or maybe feel awkward to us or other drivers nearby) aren’t really a concern if I’m not in the vehicle.
    These two use cases, for me personally seem like they are more value added than being able to transport myself from point a to b without supervising. Driving imo doesn’t take too much brain capacity as a human so it’s not really saving me too much energy to justify the cost if I’m already in the seat. If I’m sitting at home and the car is running around for me, that is more useful to me.
    These two use cases would obviously be very useful for commercial transportation for small vans. Businesses that just need to transport small loads within cities would benefit most with our current infrastructure.
    I’d be interested when Tesla or someone announces wireless charging and an app integration for pickups and deliveries as that would show signs of them getting to this next junction.
    Just my 2 cents.

  • @mariusmeyer14
    @mariusmeyer14 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the ride John 😅 Tell me, does the navigation allow you to mark your current location as a destination that you can save? Say you're in your work parking space and can save that as 'work' which can be used as a more accurate destination marker? It should be useful for other regular used destinations.

    • @9erfan757
      @9erfan757 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, you can save destinations to the map like “work” or “home”.

  • @thestresstheoryofhansselye3607
    @thestresstheoryofhansselye3607 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I received the V.12 download and drove around local streets and then drove from Visalia to Stockton last weekend. I wasn’t impressed. It has some outrageous problems. It persistently activated the left turn signal and wouldn’t release it no matter what. It strayed across yellow lines. It confused left with right. I shut it off and returned to the middle setting that is more predictable and useful. I’ll await another download or two and then see if there has been any improvement.

  • @kaeferyeah8811
    @kaeferyeah8811 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:17 i think you should disengage and report a bug if it does happen to do odd things otherwise those things never will be optmized! But thankals for your great videos!

  • @joec7820
    @joec7820 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you disengage FSD, like on your way to the gym. Is it smart enough to update the TO location for future reference? Seems like it should flag those disengagements and automatically make the necessary changes.

  • @kevinbecquet
    @kevinbecquet หลายเดือนก่อน

    You still have to keep your hands on the wheel that’s what the message says at the beginning, when you engaged FSD

  • @joewilder
    @joewilder หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is legal to change lanes while you're in an intersection. That's what I was taught in Driver's class.

  • @johnchristopher7697
    @johnchristopher7697 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks!

  • @ThomasButryn
    @ThomasButryn หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so happy to hear that the nagging is much less and that you don't have to keep your hands on the wheel with the new version.

  • @darwinboor1300
    @darwinboor1300 หลายเดือนก่อน

    John thanks for the ride.
    12.3.3 is downloading to my Model Y while I write this post.
    Visualizations are going to be an issue for a while. The 4D view is derived from the rendering used by the driving control AI. The planned route and control visualization is overlayed on this. Many of the conflicting egos are lost in the driving control AI which for practical purposes is a magical blackbox.
    I would be cautious about hands-off driving with any new release of FSD. As you are aware, from here on with end-to-end (E2E) AI, we are likely to see new build emergent AI failures. These failures could occur with features we have accepted as "fixed" in prior versions. For me, V12.3 (no second dot) has run 2 red lights and yesterday it abruptly pulled to right edge of the road as we passed an oncoming car on the left and hit a pothole. Either hitting the pothole or my strong turn of the wheel to the left to avoid the pothole disengaged FSD. I could see the car flipping if I had not had a hand on the wheel. There is a 4 foot sloped drop off at that point on the road.
    The oxymoron holds for V12.3 "beta - full self driving". Based on your drive, I would offer that it holds for 12.3.3 "supervised - full self driving". With all the new FSD users, we should be warning them to keep at least one hand on the wheel and their eyes on the road. This isn't FSD yet.

  • @craighermle7727
    @craighermle7727 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like it didn't see the traffic on your left ( 1st left) until it had committed. ... interesting.

  • @tundeuk
    @tundeuk หลายเดือนก่อน

    15:32 scary. It’s turning left, yet the visualisation suggests to go right.

  • @DanielAlves1
    @DanielAlves1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the same issue with navigation correctly saying one way and FSD going another direction. Very weird!

  • @carl9729
    @carl9729 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was pulled over and ticked for changing lanes in the middle of an intersection in Hawaii

  • @lifehackresale9711
    @lifehackresale9711 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you can report errors the car makes, but the one thing I wish they would add now that FSD is essentially AI based is a "train your FSD" feature where you could train the car to do the correct thing where it repeatedly makes mistakes, and then that training gets verified to be correct then passed along to the neural net to train other FSD Teslas how to do that spot correctly. I assume this is kind of how the neural net works to begin with, but if we could specifically show the car where it was making mistakes and how to correct them and pass that training along to the next version of FSD it could go a long way in advancing FSD to the next level where the nags are no longer required.

  • @bennybob60
    @bennybob60 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There should be more control of following distance and distance when lane changing. Too close for comfort when doing high speed lane changes.

  • @TheWinstn60
    @TheWinstn60 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Given that you aren't required to hold the steering wheel that much is this now Level 3 or 4?

  • @visionfactofficial
    @visionfactofficial หลายเดือนก่อน

    is your car with hw3 or hw4?

  • @JJ-qs5zp
    @JJ-qs5zp หลายเดือนก่อน

    This afternoon I drove 106 kms on FSD 12.3.3 from my parking spot at work to home in 25% residential areas and 75% highway including 4x construction zones. I had 0 safety related disengagements and 3x navigation disengagements. I wish the "Chill" profile included slower acceleration and braking. From a Robo-Taxi perspective, the aggressive acceleration and braking this version uses would probably give the passengers a rather stressful ride. The current acceleration and braking do fit well in the "Assertive" profile option. My 2 cents.

  • @chillguy2758
    @chillguy2758 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What Yall think of Tesla releasing a ride sharing app and letting all its drivers use fsd free while doing the job? That would be amazing

  • @engr.scotty
    @engr.scotty หลายเดือนก่อน

    When the car tried to go left in the right hand turn lane and seemed confused, this is a situation I was fearful of. If you remember the videos of Sora that were so impressive and then they showed one of a man walking backwards on a treadmill. Open AI said that sometimes it gets confused with left and right. This is a problem within the end networks. A human coder would never say it is correct to turn the steering wheel left in order to go right. And I do understand that Sora is a temporal diffusion model so they're not exactly the same thing. I wondered your thoughts on that.

  • @Northbaylandscaping
    @Northbaylandscaping หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:00 See in my town if there's no cars parked then you are allowed to drive that lane.

  • @Ughthisagain
    @Ughthisagain หลายเดือนก่อน

    The lane end merge left and right are still pretty awful. Are you using average or chill or assertive?

  • @catbert7
    @catbert7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:53: He says, as the human behind does the exact same thing ;p I don't see a problem with this. The lane was clear and it was turning right. What's the issue? 🤷‍♂
    8:00: The NHTSA-mandated full stops are probably the most dangerous thing 12.3.3 does. It's a constant nuisance and threat of being rear-ended.
    27:00: I have used V12 on the highway, as I have a very unusual situation - there is a stretch of highway where it was never able to use NoA. Instead it used Beta and now uses V12. What I can tell you is it takes curves like a racer, hugging the lines uncomfortably. The speed management is pretty random. It does not slow down for construction zones, even with posted speed limit signs that are 10 mph under the regular limit, and if you manually slow it down (which you have to do by disengaging and reengaging at the desired speed, which is really annoying), it is slow to speed back up after leaving the construction area (even after passing speed limit signs). It sometimes refuses to pass slow traffic. It doesn't switch lanes for construction-blocked lanes until forced to.

  • @craigruchman7007
    @craigruchman7007 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A good illustration on how difficult FSD really is. I have high hopes it will move the stock soon…

  • @lisasummers2907
    @lisasummers2907 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting that it turned into the far lane... it would be considered an improper turn/lane change here in Canada -- you can get ticketed or fail your driver's test if you do that.

  • @TransactionVanS
    @TransactionVanS หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't you use the AI Student Driver sticker on the back?

  • @mthuhn
    @mthuhn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you please upload your fsd videos in 4k the screen is too grainy to see

  • @iowa_don
    @iowa_don หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm not all that wild about 12.3.3. On a left turn at an intersection, it came within a foot of another car. Freaked me out. Still no improvement for school zones that I see. And once on a pretty normal left turn at an intersection it had trouble figuring out how to get into the left turn lane, even though it had zero problems for a bunch of other left turns that were identical. Mostly smoother on turns though but not all turns.

  • @CraigMcDonald1234
    @CraigMcDonald1234 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THanks Doctor.
    Questions: does the car drive like an Uber driver, Taxi driver, your Aunt, a teenager male or female, a 25 year old male/female. ...inexperienced human? a forty year old? ............would you use FSD for everyday commuting? how many Teslas are running FSD right now? if free FSD is running for a month, is there any way to analyze the accident statistics ? almost everyone is reporting very good FSD but who is not; what problems are they having? Ford, Waymo, mobileye, VW, BYD, GM et al must be testing FSD , what do they say?

  • @PA30Crewchief
    @PA30Crewchief หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the whole I would use FSD again. Navigation needs improvement. FSD did not indicate correctly in traffic circles but drove through them correctly. It struggled with T junctions (a human driver would inch forward). Autospeed is too slow. My only major gripe was curbing a rear wheel on a sharp turn. On the highway through a lot of construction it did remarkably well, even through funnels of 3 to 2 to 1 lane.

  • @t229l7
    @t229l7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you see misbehaviors, you need to disengage and send a message to the FSD team.

  • @curioussand1339
    @curioussand1339 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still, first it was FSD Beta, now it's FSD Supervised , what will it be next? FSD Babysat ?

  • @randytaylor4766
    @randytaylor4766 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got the 30 day free trial yesterday of 12.3.3 LOVE IT!!! Just wish it was more affordable. Not going to pay 12K for it... probably would pay 6K and if you could roll it into the next Tesla purchase.

  • @paul88824
    @paul88824 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 7:01 when you said ‘same mistake, Tesla you gotta fix this’: the car was in a large lane where there are all these parking meters, but no parked cars, in front of it. In Southern California, and many other places, that would be treated as a traffic lane by drivers. It would seem that FSD is just learning from the data set that Tesla has trained it on. Just saying…

  • @slowercuber7767
    @slowercuber7767 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One may not be required to hold the wheel ... but I have so far not been ready to let it go, at least not for very long.

  • @czarkbrooks
    @czarkbrooks หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn't "the Apollo 11 software guy's" name Margaret?

  • @maxpayne7419
    @maxpayne7419 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice to see an objective review of the new FSD. It’s impressive. But It seems to me there is a long way to go with this technology.

  • @pierrenorman421
    @pierrenorman421 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FSD 12.x also fixed speed "dips." It recognizes them and slows down appropriately.

  • @NaughtyGoatFarm
    @NaughtyGoatFarm หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if there are accelerometers in the car that tesla could use to map and/or confirm potholes that the vision doesn't see. Perhaps it could remember those locations and feed the info to other vehicles. Alternatively perhaps it could flag the video based on the accelerometer data so tesla to train the AI.

  • @MarksEscalona
    @MarksEscalona หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice. If you lower your camera in your car will have a better view of the road.

  • @s.m.7018
    @s.m.7018 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I received FSD Monday for a free month. It is very impressive! We ran errands all day yesterday and used it for seven legs. Although it took most of the day before my stresses level dropped, it was than I could drive. Unlike me it came to full, but quick, stops at signs. It recognized a group of cyclists and turned behind them as everyone should and drive through a construction site where the cones we black instead of orange.

    • @KrustyKlown
      @KrustyKlown หลายเดือนก่อน

      With it doing something wrong on every drive .. seems more like a stressful annoyance, than a useful option. Then there is that $12K price, lol, absurd.

  • @harveyface
    @harveyface หลายเดือนก่อน

    The clever Apollo guy's name is Margaret Hamilton 😂

  • @CarloHerrmann
    @CarloHerrmann หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not put up a sign in the back saying « I AM TESTING AUTOMATIC DRIVING -PLEASE BE PATIENT” … so cars will be more forgiving and you can dare to see what FSD will really do and not get so stressed 😅!!?

  • @roger_is_red
    @roger_is_red หลายเดือนก่อน

    FSD works much better in Silicon Valley than it does in Santa Cruz just 30 miles away. Our first drive using 12 the car made three zinger mistakes but drove the tricky left turn that version 11 couldn't, perfectly. Jeannine

  • @markl3893
    @markl3893 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm on Elon time :( The person who delivered my new Model 3 said I would get the free month trial download in 72 hours, it has been over 90 hours now.

    • @danmoyer4650
      @danmoyer4650 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Follow the instructions provided by the good doctor.

  • @send2dwight
    @send2dwight หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure if anyone else has experienced this but I was ending my drive yesterday on a 12.3.2. The car pulled up in front of my house and I ended the trip instead of canceling FSD. The car then started driving on its own to a destination unknown without having any navigation instructions. I let it do its thing for 10 minutes and then canceled it. 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @MichaelDeeringMHC
    @MichaelDeeringMHC หลายเดือนก่อน

    All of the visualization and all of the stuff on the display should be system output like steering, braking, accelerating, and generated by the network.

  • @eyesuckle
    @eyesuckle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We just keep driving by the waffle house without stopping. That demands an intervention as far as I'm concerned.

  • @tundeuk
    @tundeuk หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:53 This is not a lane??? I’m confused it looks like a lane to me.

  • @doodlebug1820
    @doodlebug1820 หลายเดือนก่อน

    36 in a 30 is too fast especially on a campus. 20 percent error

  • @franki3Ru550
    @franki3Ru550 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I guess we are not there yet judging by the comments

  • @tomcrocker608
    @tomcrocker608 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish there was a way to communicate to Tesla that I’m having problems with v12..3.3 in that when it sees a “To” 15 Route sign, it sets the car’s speed to 15mph. Cars are backing up behind me as I frantically dial up the speed to the correct value. Also, since V11.x, it still sees “Trucks Speed” 40 signs and sets itself to 40mph. The last I looked, a Model 3 isn’t a Truck.

    • @curtisyoung7107
      @curtisyoung7107 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One method for dealing with the unexpected slowdown is to push the accelerator while still running FSD until you achieve the wanted speed, then disengage FSD, with the soon to be obsoleted stalks, then re-engage FSD, again with the stalk. I do this another on long drives when the car changes speed limits unexpected lower than current flow of traffic requires 😊

    • @tomcrocker608
      @tomcrocker608 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@curtisyoung7107appreciated. But this situation cannot stand. I don’t want to have to use a workaround. Sometimes, when it does this, (and 15mph is a dramatic drop) I’m momentarily wondering why, until I realize it is one of these signs OR there is a traffic situation brewing that the car was aware of before I was. I don’t like this mental scramble.

  • @MichaelDeeringMHC
    @MichaelDeeringMHC หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait to see your Top Ten Disengagements.

  • @chrisrogers1092
    @chrisrogers1092 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dr. Yap-it-all

  • @reneepren
    @reneepren หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am doing the FSD free trial. But I hate that I can’t easily switch between autopilot and FSD so I stopped it.

    • @paulhetherington1626
      @paulhetherington1626 หลายเดือนก่อน

      set up a different profile. easy peasy. 😂

  • @RSkala100
    @RSkala100 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My first time with FSD and was very impressed. Like you a few interventions but most were road line related or working around bad drivers. Rain does make it complain even with wipers doing a good job. Speed can be overly slow on secondary roads, applying accelerator sometimes helps. Roads without speed signs can be annoying, sometimes it assumes faster limits other times slower on the same road. A proper fix would be to reference (possibly add) map speed limits until it sees a valid sign.

  • @kevinr8431
    @kevinr8431 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seems like your FSD is having more issues compared with the other videos

  • @craighermle7727
    @craighermle7727 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Has anyone seen any "FSD Tests": with or more Teslas with different versions of FSD trying to navigate/manage based on what it thinks the other Tesla will do? I wonder how "AI" at different levels of "completeness" would react to versions of itself. That's a real-world possibility.

  • @RussAbbott1
    @RussAbbott1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does FSD "know" what the local laws are?

  • @StevenYoungcaptual
    @StevenYoungcaptual หลายเดือนก่อน

    You’re claiming we can Force the update by going to the software page in the car? 👎

  • @SanePerson1
    @SanePerson1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:55: "...This is not a lane." Dr. K-i-a, why not disengage and send a voice message? Are you just assuming that a TH-cam video is just as good or better at sending them the message?

  • @6681096
    @6681096 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "That is very very bad driving" 6:45 . Disagree -That's the safest maneuver.
    Also, the guy behind you did the same thing. I think it's similar to bike or bus lanes in which you can go into them to make your turn. Regardless, wide turns are more dangerous -closer to oncoming traffic plus you have a potential issue with someone cutting in to your right side (a car or bike).
    Too many impatient drivers and those paranoid about cops and the strict letter of the law versus defensive driving and avoiding accidents.

  • @NordicProspecting
    @NordicProspecting หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait what!? Its "hands free" now?

  • @MichaelDeeringMHC
    @MichaelDeeringMHC หลายเดือนก่อน

    Occasionally, the car will do something weird just to see if you are paying attention and will take control. It's checking to see how quickly the driver will take over.

  • @BobbieGWhiz
    @BobbieGWhiz หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Seems like the Tesla influencers who had V11 are amazed on how much better V12 is. For us newbies, it doesn’t feel like it’s there yet. I doubt it will motivate many newbies to upgrade to FSD.

    • @bflying
      @bflying หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I have a LOT of miles on FSD, and v11 was really bad. Seemed every v11 update was one step forward and two or three steps backwards. So v12 with one step forward and only three quarters step back seems like monumental advancement. But I'll take it because it is finally advancement none the less.

  • @alicemiller8031
    @alicemiller8031 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tesla,truck has been scrutinized extensively but how many vehicles are bullet proof from the factory

  • @user-rr9fy4ie8w
    @user-rr9fy4ie8w หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    옆에 fsd 잘 모르는 사람 좀 태워요. 미친 기술 좀 홍보 좀 합시다.

  • @richbl1690
    @richbl1690 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah quit teasing. I've not gotten my update of v12. still on v11.1