Having emotions does not mean they are triggered the same way. Not all life forms on Earth even require interaction with others of their species on a regular basis. We do because we are pack animals. Zora may not be. Plus... we have no idea how Zora even experiences the passage of time.
I've been playing with maths and aspects of theoretical physics for over 25 years, and I have never been able to visualise higher dimensions until I watched Discovery for the 2nd time.
Good video! I like the separate floating parts look. As a teenager, I was a fan of the Recognizers' design in Tron and used to do my initials in that style.
Calypso mini episode now being the last time we see Discovery is indicating that once again, the Federation has regressed to a myth like it did because of the burn.
To be honest im really upset this series is over. I enjoyed it and their was much left on the table. Im an old star trek fan and the thought of having this show, plus Picard and Strange new worlds going on consecutively was a dream.
I find it odd that they gave it an A designation after a refit. The Enterprise was nearly a completely new ship, and they didn't give it an A designation until the Enterprise was destroyed and a similar ship was rechristened. Also, it didn't make since that a ship from a thousand years ago was deemed to be the most advanced ship and pretty much became the flag ship of the Federation. They wouldn't have refit the Discovery. Instead, they would have put it in a museum as an ancient artifact. I honestly don't care that it had the spore drive which oddly was the most advanced tech. Actually, I would have thought they would have been hopping galaxies rather than having what basically is gimmicky tech. I'm not saying that programmable matter wouldn't exist, but it's not terribly important to exploration like warp drive is. At any rate, pretty much the entirety of Discovery wouldn't be salvageable at that point. Just build them a brand new ship. A quote from Spock sums it up: "I am endeavoring, ma'am, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins." Yup.
They basically did build them a brand new ship. No reason to toss out the bones of a ship though if they're still usable. They'd save so much time doing the refit vs building a ship from scratch. At the time their resources were severely low, too. Sourcing new materials to build a ship might have been an issue, considering they only had a handful of ships at that time when they definitely could have used more. I also wouldn't say that Discovery became the flagship. They just sent them when time was of the essence and they needed someone to respond right away.
@@ChrisEllorris Ancient structural components wouldn't many any sense to an engineering perspective. To us, those structural components would be about as useful as medieval stone arches versus the bleeding edge of titanium alloys in the United States arsenal of stealth fighters. In other words, you can put a tuxedo on a pig, but it's still a pig. The structural components give any piece of engineering its strength. Engineers would have taken on look at that ancient hulk and be like, "I DON'T THINK SO!"
Sonequa Martin-Green does not have dreadlocks. She has braids, and it was a wig. If we are going to differentiate between cloaking devices we are going to a Black woman’s hairstyle right.
This brought me down such a rabbit hole on dreadlocks and braids. Unsurprisingly the word dreadlock itself is birthed in racism. Thank you for pointing this out!
Shows how much so many of us have to learn. I haven't reached that part yet and I hope I can see the difference! I do know that she's absolutely beautiful, regardless of her hairstyle/wig!
4:20 in STO there is cloak, battle cloak and advanced battle cloak. Difference is: cloak can not be used when in combat. Battle cloak can be used when in and outside of combat (red alert status). Advanced battle cloak can be used in and outside of combat BUT you can also fire from it.
You are forgetting the ultimate one. The Scimitar battle cloak. Which allows shields to be active in cloak and if paired with the other consoles for it limited use of all weapons.
The Pathway Drive is supposed to be somewhat similar maybe just a bit slower. It has to have some benefits that made it superior to the Spore Drive other than the navigation issue. They were able to get ahead of the Breen Dreadnaught without being detected. Hope we get more answers about it in Academy.
The USS Yamato has the registry of NCC-1305 E in TNG season 2 "Where silence has lease" but then it had a different registry "NCC-71807" for the episode "Contagion" later that season
According to Riker in "Where Silence has Lease" it's NCC-1305-E... though it is worth noting that its official registry is, well... a mess. This from Memory Alpha: "The Yamato's registry was identified by dialogue in "Where Silence Has Lease" by Riker who visually identified it from the hull of Nagilum's reproduction and stated it to be "NCC-1305-E". When the Yamato was listed on a Starship Deploy Status in "The Measure Of A Man", the starship had the registry "NCC-24383". However, with its later appearance in "Contagion", several computer screens, schematics and captain's logs identified the registry as "NCC-71807". In the exploding saucer section model from "Contagion" the registry was "NCC-71806" instead of "NCC-71807". While "NCC-71806" and "NCC-24383" can be clearly seen in the remastered high-definition versions of the episodes, they are not as prominent as the registries mentioned in dialogue and the computer screen graphics from "Contagion"."
The battle cloak in STO is a technical differentiation the game uses. They have standard cloaks which can only be activated when not at red alert. Battle cloaks can be used during combat. Advanced cloaks are also there for those like the ST VI BoP which can fire torps while remaining cloaked.
The new version relied on a lot of energy to "hold it together" whereas the original was held together by rivets, welds, hopes and dreams. The former may be energy efficient for a century with no problem but a millennia? The older configuration would have an easier time holding itself together over a vastly longer time as no energy is wasted.
I still can't get over the fact that Burnham just abandoned both Discovery and Zora in the middle of nowhere for a thousand years. I can understand if the Short Trek episode "Calypso" is no longer canon, but now I want a sequel of the ultimate fate of Zora after Craft left Discovery.
It's absolutely ridiculous and the absolute IDIOTS at paramount that thought that was reasonable should be stuffed into a space pod and launched into space never to return!
The avalanche sequence from Red Directive pisses off the geology love in me so much! In geology there is concept of 'angle of repose'. In simple term, since that is all I know, a vertical land form will seek a slope in which it is stable. That was a vertical cliff, it would not race across a long distance like in the ep. That scene stole my suspension of disbelief so HARD!
I'm not sure why they didn't streamline the bridge more given the Covid restrictions. I'm not talking the extreme single station bridges we saw in All Good Things, but even the Titan-A ran with less manned bridge stations. Discovery now had a sentient AI. I'm not sure why it still needed both Ops and Spore Drive Ops along with the 1st officer still having a large workable station.
0:52 Discovery is the same size as a Constitution Class ship, but yet when they jump to the future it looks about the same size as all the other ships which are further in the future than Picards ships (which are nearly double the size of the Constellation Class ships)? Even Voyager, (a diddi ship!) was bigger than kirks' Constitution Class Enterprise, but still smaller than Picards' Galaxy Class Enterprise!
I admit I rather naively picked up a detail from a fan movie, and imagined it was canon. So I now have to assume, of course, that Starfleet ship names are not limited to thirteen different vessels? I had believed that once they get to L, they’d stop using the name, or at least jump to N, because M was exclusively used on the registry number when any ship because a Museum ship. Discovery obviously puts the kibosh, on that one.
Calipso wasn't an episode it was part of a series of Star Trek shorts on Paramount Plus. Just search Short Treks and you should find it easily. Hope that helps. 🙂
It's a mini episode. Or more accurately, a waste of both time and money and they woulda been better served just saying it was a dream Zora had and instead giving us a PROPER ending to Zora's story. One that respects her sentience.
The calypso explication was obviously just so they could do something before the end of the show. Was it bad? Yeah. But also they had very little time to get it right.
If I had to guess: Discovery jumped to a place and Book's Ship (which also has DASH drive) Burnham and crew offload to book's Ship. Book jumps back with Burnham and crew.
Will we get a series where in the 42nd century somebody finds the USS discovery and uses its spore drive as a weapon? I would hate to see this unique ship just vanish away from Star Trek.
You know, Zora taking the ship into the nebula didn't mean that the ship actually waited a thousand years. That's what the cover story was, hence why it was decommissioned back to original form. There probably was no wait, otherwise why bring her there so early?
my only question was that the warp nacelle's shape (tadpoles) have stay that size and be kept that much elongated?. I mean, the day I take this eaglemoss model of Disco out of the box, I'll just use it to pick up my BBQ- ed shish kabobs of the lunch plate.
32nd Century Starfleet didn’t really feel 32nd Century. We saw from Voyager like 500 years ahead they had time ships with really cool designs. It seems since then Starfleet only really has programmable matter. They’re still using Dilithiun at the time of the Burn which is odd how they hadn’t invented something better in the 1000 or so years Warp Drives had been around.
I know cost would have been an issue building new sets but the Discovery as a ship should have been destroyed and replaced with something new to fit the era.
I’d take a season finale where the crew abandons ship and a certain character maybe Burnham stays behind to self destruct to save the day against “enemy name here”.
I am so tired of every comment here hating on Star Trek Discovery. Get a life, find a new hobby, touch grass. Do something else with your life than hate a show. Live long and fucking prosper.
I think the biggest problem with discovery was the writing overall. If the show was better written, I think the response would’ve been much better. I don’t blame the actors because they’re getting paid to do a job and to do the job to the best of their ability with what they have. Now, if this show had the kind of storytelling that’s in strange new worlds, I think discovery would’ve been much better and would’ve lasted into a sixth season.
This does mean that Star Trek short track calypso takes place in the 42nd century with Discovery having waiting around a thousand years from the it's 30 second century refit and then sent off into deep space to sit around that means Calypso takes place in the 42nd century
I think someone may have forgotten about the USS Defiant-A 👀 Edit Err It's been bought to my attention there wasn't a Defiant-A 😳 Move along, nothing to see here.
@@wintermute4978 NCC-1764: Sucked in to the mirror universe and even back in time. NX-74205: Destroyed in the Dominion war. NCC-74205: Used to be NCC-75633 USS São Paulo, which was re-branded and given as a thank you to Sisko and DS9 for their contribution at the frontline during the Dominion war. Guess all this also added to the confusement.
Not just that. She was forced into exile for no other reason than to make Calypso canon. Whoever at paramount thought Calypso was a good idea and to make the finale tie into that should be fired, stuffed into a space pod, and launched into space never to return. Do to them what they did to Zora.
battle cloak in STO means you can attack with torpedoes while cloak it's a little feature for specially trop boats that basically you have only torpedoes/mines and no others weapons and can be used while in battle meanwhile normal cloak is disable during fights. after this pointless explanation i go and meet some phased alien in the transport device
I would have so much less problems with discovery, if the entire thing had taken place in the 31st century, i mean nearly all of my complaints would be gone here. -_-
With exception of a couple of episodes. This last season sucked. And what the hell with the saucer separation? It wasn't need and felt like a after thought anyway.
This putting alpha chars after ship registries is going a bit too far, isn’t it? Enterprise was a hero ship and a hero captain plus the general public knew what NCC-1701 meant so as a brand it had to stay. But no one cares that Voyager is NCC-74656 and no one cares if it gets an A or not. Same with Discovery, and the Titan. Starfleet (and real navies) would give them new numbers that corresponded to class, commission, and purpose. We’ve seen 3 Defiants, each with its own registry and no one laments the loss of the original #. So seriously it’s just dumb now.
This show was SO desperate. Dont like the ship? Well here's a new one! And it can cloak! And can separate the saucer! And land & take off again! And it has all the sphere data! And an AI! And a cat! A show should be good on it's own as a SHOW, not a series of gimmicks.
Worst Star Trek series ever. SO boring and so much virtue signaling. Terribly written plots. This series is a shining example of why politics need to stay out of beloved works of art such as Star Trek. Please discontinue this series.
Politics have always been a part of Star Trek since the very beginning. Some episodes in the original series used the Vietnam war as inspiration. the problem is that these writers don’t know how to properly write a story about the crew dealing with a situation for example, a political upheaval on a planet and the crew figure out a way to find a solution while same time teaching a lesson for everyone to learn. They made it simple as hell in the original series, but these young writers nowadays don’t really know how to do that.
Respectfully and I like your videos. As a hardcore trekkie discovery is a disgrace on the franchise. Also if the warp nacelles separate stands to reason everything else separates to, which I might add is absolutely ridiculous. Rant over..let's hope 33nd century starfleet is better. Show missed so many beats. No Clinton's no borg no 8472 no crenim. Missed a beat with their absence. Don't get me started on the acting. Thank God strange new worlds is a welcome recovery
As a hardcore fan I'm sure you realize you sound like the people screaming "not my captain only kirk!" or "not star trek cause he's black" or "not the enterprise! Not a woman captain!" ...
LOL OMG the worst ship design with so much retconned gobbledeguk thanks to Kurtzman, who had NO IDEA what to do when Fuller was fired... Bryan Fuller never wanted a spore drive or empty turbo shaft "canyons..." How you wax on romantic about this dumb show & even worse ship design is... typical.
Why do we have to talk about the most hated ship in the fleet dude discovery is over let it die already it was stupid no buddy cared for it here in the US so let's just toss sum dirt on the thing and barie it and let's not talk about this stupid ship ever again
I’m actually glad someone else noticed the whole “who was actually jumping discovery at the end” lol
thank you for finally acknowledging nobody was there to jump the ship it was driving me nuts we all saw it
Zora had emotions. So, how did being alone for a 1000 years not drive her absolutely insane?
Having emotions does not mean they are triggered the same way. Not all life forms on Earth even require interaction with others of their species on a regular basis. We do because we are pack animals. Zora may not be.
Plus... we have no idea how Zora even experiences the passage of time.
She does mention dreaming. I feel like she was terribly lonely in the episode with the possible future where they all died.
That felt so cruel doing that to Zora
The amusing part is that Clark wearing Glasses was for more effective that expected :P
THANK YOU!!!! I thought I was the only one who noticed there was no one to do the final jump!
I've been playing with maths and aspects of theoretical physics for over 25 years, and I have never been able to visualise higher dimensions until I watched Discovery for the 2nd time.
Good video! I like the separate floating parts look. As a teenager, I was a fan of the Recognizers' design in Tron and used to do my initials in that style.
Calypso mini episode now being the last time we see Discovery is indicating that once again, the Federation has regressed to a myth like it did because of the burn.
Burnham's son jumped ship as he was 1/2 Kwejian and possibly an empath too.
I like this, new head canon for me
It would be funny if STO made the Crossfields compatible with the Galaxy class saucer separation console.
One of the concepts for Discovery A had the saucer+neck separated so I wonder if the separated spore jump is a kind of reference to that
The turboshafts in my opinion are basically a spectral view of the ship's interior
Waka-vater not a turbo shaft
To be honest im really upset this series is over. I enjoyed it and their was much left on the table. Im an old star trek fan and the thought of having this show, plus Picard and Strange new worlds going on consecutively was a dream.
The who jumped the ship at the end! Staments totally needed to be there also!
As a side note about the STO stuff, the Battle Cloak just means it can fire while cloaked rather than needing to decloak before attacking
Good to know. Thank you.
12:53 Sean, Michael Burnham has BRAIDS, not dreadlocks. There's a big difference.
I find it odd that they gave it an A designation after a refit. The Enterprise was nearly a completely new ship, and they didn't give it an A designation until the Enterprise was destroyed and a similar ship was rechristened. Also, it didn't make since that a ship from a thousand years ago was deemed to be the most advanced ship and pretty much became the flag ship of the Federation. They wouldn't have refit the Discovery. Instead, they would have put it in a museum as an ancient artifact. I honestly don't care that it had the spore drive which oddly was the most advanced tech. Actually, I would have thought they would have been hopping galaxies rather than having what basically is gimmicky tech. I'm not saying that programmable matter wouldn't exist, but it's not terribly important to exploration like warp drive is. At any rate, pretty much the entirety of Discovery wouldn't be salvageable at that point. Just build them a brand new ship. A quote from Spock sums it up: "I am endeavoring, ma'am, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit using stone knives and bearskins." Yup.
They couldn't have used the discovery name without the a.
The original ship was meant to have been destroyed when it jumped through time.
They basically did build them a brand new ship. No reason to toss out the bones of a ship though if they're still usable. They'd save so much time doing the refit vs building a ship from scratch.
At the time their resources were severely low, too. Sourcing new materials to build a ship might have been an issue, considering they only had a handful of ships at that time when they definitely could have used more.
I also wouldn't say that Discovery became the flagship. They just sent them when time was of the essence and they needed someone to respond right away.
@@forresttm But, it WASN'T destroyed.
@@ChrisEllorris Ancient structural components wouldn't many any sense to an engineering perspective. To us, those structural components would be about as useful as medieval stone arches versus the bleeding edge of titanium alloys in the United States arsenal of stealth fighters. In other words, you can put a tuxedo on a pig, but it's still a pig. The structural components give any piece of engineering its strength. Engineers would have taken on look at that ancient hulk and be like, "I DON'T THINK SO!"
@@robertgaines-tulsa was on record. That would be enough.
Plausible deniability.
Great video! I enjoyed Star Trek Discovery a lot and I'm sad that it's come to an end.
my god all these disco-wrapped-in32th-century-bandages concepts are so much better than what we got
Sonequa Martin-Green does not have dreadlocks. She has braids, and it was a wig. If we are going to differentiate between cloaking devices we are going to a Black woman’s hairstyle right.
Yes only locs shows up in SNW
This brought me down such a rabbit hole on dreadlocks and braids. Unsurprisingly the word dreadlock itself is birthed in racism. Thank you for pointing this out!
Shows how much so many of us have to learn. I haven't reached that part yet and I hope I can see the difference! I do know that she's absolutely beautiful, regardless of her hairstyle/wig!
Thank you. Noted for future reference.
Your final sentence is missing a word.
4:20 in STO there is cloak, battle cloak and advanced battle cloak. Difference is: cloak can not be used when in combat. Battle cloak can be used when in and outside of combat (red alert status). Advanced battle cloak can be used in and outside of combat BUT you can also fire from it.
You are forgetting the ultimate one. The Scimitar battle cloak. Which allows shields to be active in cloak and if paired with the other consoles for it limited use of all weapons.
STOs version of the Discovery A is amazing. My second favorite ship in the whole game.
I miss ST Discovery already. Can't wait for Starfleet Academy
I chose to believe that Star Fleet wouldn’t have decommissioned the Discovery A if they couldn’t make more spore drives
The Pathway Drive is supposed to be somewhat similar maybe just a bit slower. It has to have some benefits that made it superior to the Spore Drive other than the navigation issue. They were able to get ahead of the Breen Dreadnaught without being detected. Hope we get more answers about it in Academy.
LOL... Your Square Space bit was amazing Sean! LLAP!
The USS Yamato has the registry of NCC-1305 E in TNG season 2 "Where silence has lease" but then it had a different registry "NCC-71807" for the episode "Contagion" later that season
It was a fake/illusion in Where Silence Has lease, but the crew did seem to acknowledge it as correct.
There was also a USS Relativity -G.
While the Excalibur -M dishonours the Ambassador class NCC-26517 version seen in TNG.
The Yamato from Tng season 2 also had an E at the end of its registry number
According to Riker in "Where Silence has Lease" it's NCC-1305-E... though it is worth noting that its official registry is, well... a mess. This from Memory Alpha: "The Yamato's registry was identified by dialogue in "Where Silence Has Lease" by Riker who visually identified it from the hull of Nagilum's reproduction and stated it to be "NCC-1305-E". When the Yamato was listed on a Starship Deploy Status in "The Measure Of A Man", the starship had the registry "NCC-24383". However, with its later appearance in "Contagion", several computer screens, schematics and captain's logs identified the registry as "NCC-71807". In the exploding saucer section model from "Contagion" the registry was "NCC-71806" instead of "NCC-71807". While "NCC-71806" and "NCC-24383" can be clearly seen in the remastered high-definition versions of the episodes, they are not as prominent as the registries mentioned in dialogue and the computer screen graphics from "Contagion"."
@@andrewschwarz3405 CRISIS OF INFINITE YAMATOS!!!
LMAO I too had the realization of who jumped the ship About 3 hours before upload. haha
The battle cloak in STO is a technical differentiation the game uses. They have standard cloaks which can only be activated when not at red alert.
Battle cloaks can be used during combat.
Advanced cloaks are also there for those like the ST VI BoP which can fire torps while remaining cloaked.
The new version relied on a lot of energy to "hold it together" whereas the original was held together by rivets, welds, hopes and dreams. The former may be energy efficient for a century with no problem but a millennia? The older configuration would have an easier time holding itself together over a vastly longer time as no energy is wasted.
I thought the gap between the ship and nacelles was ridiculous and I loved Discovery.
Please, where is the scene at 10:06 from?
i was waiting for this
We need an ups and downs on the movies!!!
The commercial at the end is weird and cute. I actually watched it.
I still can't get over the fact that Burnham just abandoned both Discovery and Zora in the middle of nowhere for a thousand years. I can understand if the Short Trek episode "Calypso" is no longer canon, but now I want a sequel of the ultimate fate of Zora after Craft left Discovery.
It's absolutely ridiculous and the absolute IDIOTS at paramount that thought that was reasonable should be stuffed into a space pod and launched into space never to return!
Kirk did make reference to Scotty, " even if you have to clast out of there with the main section get the ship outta there"
Considering Discovery and most 32nd century technology, has detachable warp nacelles, it makes sense that the saucer can be separated too.
Wait. Yeah, if Michael was the only one in Discovery, how could she jump? They re-engineered the sport drive to mimic that box that Book had?
The avalanche sequence from Red Directive pisses off the geology love in me so much! In geology there is concept of 'angle of repose'. In simple term, since that is all I know, a vertical land form will seek a slope in which it is stable. That was a vertical cliff, it would not race across a long distance like in the ep. That scene stole my suspension of disbelief so HARD!
I'm not sure why they didn't streamline the bridge more given the Covid restrictions. I'm not talking the extreme single station bridges we saw in All Good Things, but even the Titan-A ran with less manned bridge stations. Discovery now had a sentient AI. I'm not sure why it still needed both Ops and Spore Drive Ops along with the 1st officer still having a large workable station.
When was there an A? I saw every episode and didn't see a 1031-A anywhere.
0:52 Discovery is the same size as a Constitution Class ship, but yet when they jump to the future it looks about the same size as all the other ships which are further in the future than Picards ships (which are nearly double the size of the Constellation Class ships)?
Even Voyager, (a diddi ship!) was bigger than kirks' Constitution Class Enterprise, but still smaller than Picards' Galaxy Class Enterprise!
I admit I rather naively picked up a detail from a fan movie, and imagined it was canon. So I now have to assume, of course, that Starfleet ship names are not limited to thirteen different vessels? I had believed that once they get to L, they’d stop using the name, or at least jump to N, because M was exclusively used on the registry number when any ship because a Museum ship. Discovery obviously puts the kibosh, on that one.
What episode is the calipso
Calipso wasn't an episode it was part of a series of Star Trek shorts on Paramount Plus. Just search Short Treks and you should find it easily. Hope that helps. 🙂
It's a mini episode.
Or more accurately, a waste of both time and money and they woulda been better served just saying it was a dream Zora had and instead giving us a PROPER ending to Zora's story. One that respects her sentience.
Thanks. 🖖🏻
It's been a long road.....getting from there to here.......
Did you notice the shuttle Bay doors were closed in the final episode at that last scene? they listen to us!
they get royalties every time lens flares are used? LOL
I have just finished my computer science degree and I would also have struggled to remember all of that technobable Sean 😅
The odd thing is the Excalibur as 1664 got broken when they had the Ambassador with a different registry
How many times could that "Saucer Separation" have save their lives
Love your videos but not the silly voices for the ads. :-)
How did granny Burnham get back after her last jump?
Owo has locs, Burnham has braids
The calypso explication was obviously just so they could do something before the end of the show. Was it bad? Yeah. But also they had very little time to get it right.
Beautiful.
The Excalibur 🎉 Go for Captain Calhoun 🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Well now I know what an “AR Wall” is.
If I had to guess: Discovery jumped to a place and Book's Ship (which also has DASH drive) Burnham and crew offload to book's Ship. Book jumps back with Burnham and crew.
Will we get a series where in the 42nd century somebody finds the USS discovery and uses its spore drive as a weapon? I would hate to see this unique ship just vanish away from Star Trek.
Never noticed the changes! Arrrggg (aside from the nacelles)
You know, Zora taking the ship into the nebula didn't mean that the ship actually waited a thousand years. That's what the cover story was, hence why it was decommissioned back to original form. There probably was no wait, otherwise why bring her there so early?
Your guess is as good as ours.
We'll never find out now because the idiots at paramount think 5=7.
my only question was that the warp nacelle's shape (tadpoles) have stay that size and be kept that much elongated?. I mean, the day I take this eaglemoss model of Disco out of the box, I'll just use it to pick up my BBQ- ed shish kabobs of the lunch plate.
Well ....there you go.... transformers/star trek crossroads figure.....
If they did it with ecto 1....
GET ON IT ...
and I loved Discovery
Honest question. Why would you film this before the show ended?
32nd Century Starfleet didn’t really feel 32nd Century. We saw from Voyager like 500 years ahead they had time ships with really cool designs. It seems since then Starfleet only really has programmable matter. They’re still using Dilithiun at the time of the Burn which is odd how they hadn’t invented something better in the 1000 or so years Warp Drives had been around.
I know cost would have been an issue building new sets but the Discovery as a ship should have been destroyed and replaced with something new to fit the era.
I’d take a season finale where the crew abandons ship and a certain character maybe Burnham stays behind to self destruct to save the day against “enemy name here”.
The 'wireless' nacells and ships that changed geometry made no sense to me. Visually, very cool, but the practicality was nil.
I am so tired of every comment here hating on Star Trek Discovery. Get a life, find a new hobby, touch grass. Do something else with your life than hate a show. Live long and fucking prosper.
THIS right here.
If you don't like it, just leave it the hell alone and let us open minded people enjoy it. Assholes.
Exactly! It's just a TV show.
That last sentence... 😂😂😂😂
The haters need to discover coitus with someone other than themselves
Well said.
I think the biggest problem with discovery was the writing overall. If the show was better written, I think the response would’ve been much better. I don’t blame the actors because they’re getting paid to do a job and to do the job to the best of their ability with what they have. Now, if this show had the kind of storytelling that’s in strange new worlds, I think discovery would’ve been much better and would’ve lasted into a sixth season.
This does mean that Star Trek short track calypso takes place in the 42nd century with Discovery having waiting around a thousand years from the it's 30 second century refit and then sent off into deep space to sit around that means Calypso takes place in the 42nd century
Yes.
It does mean that, and it's a trainwreck and whoever thought it was a good idea should suffer the same thing they made zora suffer.
The saucer separation at the last min was such a plot hole device. Was disappointed.
I think someone may have forgotten about the USS Defiant-A 👀
Edit Err It's been bought to my attention there wasn't a Defiant-A 😳
Move along, nothing to see here.
There hasn’t been one. Siskos Defiant had a different reg from the TOS one and the replacement Sao Paolo never got an A.
@@DshibiVideo You are correct. I assumed it must have been give an 'A'. suffix
@@wintermute4978
NCC-1764: Sucked in to the mirror universe and even back in time.
NX-74205: Destroyed in the Dominion war.
NCC-74205: Used to be NCC-75633 USS São Paulo, which was re-branded and given as a thank you to Sisko and DS9 for their contribution at the frontline during the Dominion war.
Guess all this also added to the confusement.
How could the same ship become the Discovery -A it is the same frame
Discovery writers didn't care
@@adrianhjordan1981 Actually rhere is a perfectly logical explanation and the fact you can't see it proves you didn't watch it you fucking idiot
Does anyone know how far Burnham took Discovery on the last mission & how did she get back?
felt Zora was sidelined
Not just that. She was forced into exile for no other reason than to make Calypso canon.
Whoever at paramount thought Calypso was a good idea and to make the finale tie into that should be fired, stuffed into a space pod, and launched into space never to return. Do to them what they did to Zora.
battle cloak in STO means you can attack with torpedoes while cloak it's a little feature for specially trop boats that basically you have only torpedoes/mines and no others weapons and can be used while in battle meanwhile normal cloak is disable during fights.
after this pointless explanation i go and meet some phased alien in the transport device
I would have so much less problems with discovery, if the entire thing had taken place in the 31st century, i mean nearly all of my complaints would be gone here. -_-
why did they make it the A? discovery was never destroyed was it? A REFIT DOESNT ADD A NEW LETTER. but of course the writers dont know that
With exception of a couple of episodes. This last season sucked. And what the hell with the saucer separation? It wasn't need and felt like a after thought anyway.
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This putting alpha chars after ship registries is going a bit too far, isn’t it? Enterprise was a hero ship and a hero captain plus the general public knew what NCC-1701 meant so as a brand it had to stay. But no one cares that Voyager is NCC-74656 and no one cares if it gets an A or not. Same with Discovery, and the Titan. Starfleet (and real navies) would give them new numbers that corresponded to class, commission, and purpose. We’ve seen 3 Defiants, each with its own registry and no one laments the loss of the original #. So seriously it’s just dumb now.
Don't loose your day job. Squarespace. BWAHAHAHA 😆
Those are braids, not dreads.
This show was SO desperate. Dont like the ship? Well here's a new one! And it can cloak! And can separate the saucer! And land & take off again! And it has all the sphere data! And an AI! And a cat! A show should be good on it's own as a SHOW, not a series of gimmicks.
DISCO season 5 was such a disappointment.
Owosekun has dreadlocks. Burnham has braids.
Discovery is an Ugly ship.
i love ya Sean, but Let Disco Die.....please.
Worst Star Trek series ever. SO boring and so much virtue signaling. Terribly written plots. This series is a shining example of why politics need to stay out of beloved works of art such as Star Trek. Please discontinue this series.
Politics have always been a part of Star Trek since the very beginning. Some episodes in the original series used the Vietnam war as inspiration. the problem is that these writers don’t know how to properly write a story about the crew dealing with a situation for example, a political upheaval on a planet and the crew figure out a way to find a solution while same time teaching a lesson for everyone to learn. They made it simple as hell in the original series, but these young writers nowadays don’t really know how to do that.
Secret no1 - it is not Star Trek.
Not your call to make you stupid idiot
I really dont need to know…. That show still suck, DS9 all the way
Why did you watch?
Cool, no one cares.
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DS9 was better of course, but DISCO isn’t nearly as bad as people make it out to be
DS9 has massive flaws. Especially season 7.
It looks too CGI and not authentic looking.
The whole spore drive thing was the dumbest idea in Star Trek ever. What next Pride Power? 🤦🏻♂️🤣
🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈PRIDE Power! 😂😂😂 funny!
Respectfully and I like your videos. As a hardcore trekkie discovery is a disgrace on the franchise. Also if the warp nacelles separate stands to reason everything else separates to, which I might add is absolutely ridiculous. Rant over..let's hope 33nd century starfleet is better. Show missed so many beats. No Clinton's no borg no 8472 no crenim. Missed a beat with their absence. Don't get me started on the acting. Thank God strange new worlds is a welcome recovery
Oh dear
as a hardcore trekkie that’s certainly an opinion.
Respectfully I hate your comment.
I´m wondering why that series have their attention at all. Can´t we just pretend Descovery never happened ?
As a hardcore fan I'm sure you realize you sound like the people screaming "not my captain only kirk!" or "not star trek cause he's black" or "not the enterprise! Not a woman captain!" ...
LOL OMG the worst ship design with so much retconned gobbledeguk thanks to Kurtzman, who had NO IDEA what to do when Fuller was fired... Bryan Fuller never wanted a spore drive or empty turbo shaft "canyons..."
How you wax on romantic about this dumb show & even worse ship design is... typical.
Why do we have to talk about the most hated ship in the fleet dude discovery is over let it die already it was stupid no buddy cared for it here in the US so let's just toss sum dirt on the thing and barie it and let's not talk about this stupid ship ever again
Well, you're the one beating the dead horse. Now move it, and your soapbox. They are fire hazards. 💀+🐎 = 🔥
Discovery is the ugliest ship in all of Star Fleet. It looks like something I would have drawn when I was 10 years old.