@jeff R Only if you plan on waiting till that tax stamp comes in. These are considered an SBS. Under barrel shotguns require an SBS tax stamp. As soon as you attach it under a barrel it is classified as a short barrel shotgun with an illegal stock. You cannot legally take ownership of these until you get approved and get your tax stamp. The same rules apply to those flare launchers, because as soon as you also posses certain types of ammo it makes your flare launcher a destructive device, All the less than lethal shotgun shells, like beanbags, rubber rounds, wood rounds, also make your flare launcher illegal. Then there is ammo that is classified as anti personnel, which can be anything from gas rounds to shrapnel, and those rounds actually require a tax stamp for each round. So basically those under barrel devices are also classified the same way guns are. The under barrel shotguns are SBS, and flare launchers are classified as destructive devices if you own certain barrels or certain ammo. Sure you can get you a flare gun with no problems, but if you also buy a certain attachment for it, it becomes illegal to posses without a tax stamp, and all the ammo people really want for them also requires a tax stamp for each round. I seen people started making reusable anti personnel rounds, but the last I heard was that you even needed a tax stamp to reload the reusable rounds. To avoid the hassle if I were to get a flare launcher I would just go ahead and apply to get the tax stamp, because you can very easily break the law by accident with them. Basically anything cool you want to do with them is illegal. Almost all the ammo made for flare launchers requires a tax stamp anyway.
I'm ever bit as interested in it as a stand alone shotgun. With that adjustable stock it would be perfect for a bedside gun to back up my 10mm 1911 and my century arms C308 sporter.
@heyhayhay247 That's correct. I've seen lots of comments in other places with people suggesting adding a "Shockwave" style firearm to a rifle as an underbarrel. If one was added to a braced pistol AND met all the requirements for that configuration it *could* work. Filing SBS paperwork is the *safe* route. Or, F the gov't and do whatever you want. 😊
With M-LOK, the strength is derived from tension on the screws, the nuts which fit into slots on the rail, and the friction of the item against the rail. It's pretty strong, but keymod on the other hand...
@@badkatrising3918 you are groovin on my exact wavelength. Do they make tracer shot? Because if not they should. And also you could totally rig up a system connecting all your shotgun triggers to the rifles trigger for the ultimate adventure in recoil masochism. The pump grips would be a little trickier but with enough determination anything is possible
Hmmm always like the idea of “master key” I can’t help but think of the Turkish shotguns that have flooded the market…hell for the price I’ll slap that in a block II.
Remington or Mossberg could make something like this out of one of their braced firearm guns like the Shockwave or Tac-13, which could then be mounted under the barrel of a braced AR pistol. All legal without NFA paperwork/registration
The shockwave/tac13 are only legal because the grip is long enough to push the total length to 26in. Something like this would have to be a registered aow or sbs
@@berettaguy923 AR-10's though are pretty low recoil... I have shot 12ga like a pistol with pistol grips (in fact the wood grips I made for it busted in half during the start of a shooting competition, so I still scored 24 out of 25 clays with half a pistol grip). Sure it has some recoil, but its totally manageable, and that was when I was below 100 pound twig (I'm still a walking twig, but I think I'm just past 100 pounds now at the same 5'11" height).
That scene and the one from Predators where the Yakuza guy duels one of them with a katana are peek art, don't care what the critics say: if it's cool then it's good.
Loving this content, very cool, showing "new'" companies with new innovative ideas. I always like seeing out of country (out out of the box) ideas and motivations.
I think it would be really good to have it on a 22 rifle because you have the option of hunting small game and having protection against big game that wants to steal your small game example bear or wolf
That's a much more soild looking setup for under-barrel mounting than trying to use a Pic rail that is retained on a shotgun receiver by three or four small screws,
I’ve always loved the idea of an under barrel shotgun almost built one about 35 years ago orange county gun show in California we’re selling the kids are used a Remington 870 under your choice of an A.R. 15 style and they were surfing mostly 12 gauge but they were also available in 20 gauge
@@lungeranon7645 snake island garrison? You mean the guys that surrendered to the Russians? Do you just believe everything you hear because Snake island was a lie.
This looks so kool. BUT I do NOT need that kind of weight at the bottom of my AR. I'd rather just carry a seperate tac14 or a short double barrel in a backpack
Even if they could make one with an 18" barrel I'd buy it. I've always wanted to attach a shotgun under my rifle like the one in Predator, but that company quit making the kits years ago.
Why add just one? With a quad rail who needs sights. Add four shotties. Am I wrong? And for the ones who just can't hipfire add three leaving sights on top.
If it actually makes it to market... I am NOT spending $5000 on an m26 mass 18", then $200 to sbs it, and then spend 6 years trying to find unobtanium parts for it... The six shot underbarrel... the m26... the serbu shortys... all unobtanium. P.S. thread it for breaching barrel attachments.
That is crazy but true. I'm in that country. We are being denied a God-given right. Now, the people who are infringing on that right are praising Ukraine for arming their citizens. It makes no sense.
Yep, here they are considered "short guns" and they can be shotguns, stock, foregrips, etc... It's weird how for our laws if the "short gun" is longer it's seen as "less dangerous", because our lawmakers were afraid of conceald guns, while over there a bigger pistol is seen more dangerous.
Regardless of the politics, I really like a lot of the stuff the Turks are bringing in. Canik, Sarsilmaz, and all the affordable clones (hi power, 1911, Benelli m4) etc.
"If you've got the grenade launcher chassis, then BOOM, it just all works together." LOL Good one, but I don't think James actually meant for it to come out like that.
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I can't be the only person that has a firm belief that every AR15 NEEDS and under barrel attachment.
I'm with you, either 40mm or 12 ga. It's just an absolute must. Personally I'd go with the M203
Gp30
Holy shit I'm going duck hunting with this under my AR
@jeff R Only if you plan on waiting till that tax stamp comes in. These are considered an SBS. Under barrel shotguns require an SBS tax stamp. As soon as you attach it under a barrel it is classified as a short barrel shotgun with an illegal stock. You cannot legally take ownership of these until you get approved and get your tax stamp. The same rules apply to those flare launchers, because as soon as you also posses certain types of ammo it makes your flare launcher a destructive device, All the less than lethal shotgun shells, like beanbags, rubber rounds, wood rounds, also make your flare launcher illegal. Then there is ammo that is classified as anti personnel, which can be anything from gas rounds to shrapnel, and those rounds actually require a tax stamp for each round. So basically those under barrel devices are also classified the same way guns are. The under barrel shotguns are SBS, and flare launchers are classified as destructive devices if you own certain barrels or certain ammo. Sure you can get you a flare gun with no problems, but if you also buy a certain attachment for it, it becomes illegal to posses without a tax stamp, and all the ammo people really want for them also requires a tax stamp for each round. I seen people started making reusable anti personnel rounds, but the last I heard was that you even needed a tax stamp to reload the reusable rounds. To avoid the hassle if I were to get a flare launcher I would just go ahead and apply to get the tax stamp, because you can very easily break the law by accident with them. Basically anything cool you want to do with them is illegal. Almost all the ammo made for flare launchers requires a tax stamp anyway.
I'm ever bit as interested in it as a stand alone shotgun. With that adjustable stock it would be perfect for a bedside gun to back up my 10mm 1911 and my century arms C308 sporter.
I would mount this under the barrel of my Mossberg 590 because, y’know, you can never have too much shotgun.
The Aliens Colonial Marine game actually had the option to mount shotgun under shotgun!
@@tyvernoverlord5363 I’m glad to not be the only one who remembers that lol
🤯
ahh yes, the good ol two piece. Because sometimes you just have to disintegrate the body, to be sure.
You're a sick man..... I like the way you think.
I love modular equipment. The fact it can be detached and used as a stand alone shotgun platform is beautiful.
Exactly one person with two guns or two people with one gun each
Underslug pump gun with mini shell compatibility=gold
why not just rig a mossberg shockwave under an AR
@@commiesnzombies if it can take minis sure but the size is still big. Its a little unwieldy for an underslug
@@commiesnzombies I'm guessing once you attach it to the rifle, it then becomes a SBS
@heyhayhay247 That's correct. I've seen lots of comments in other places with people suggesting adding a "Shockwave" style firearm to a rifle as an underbarrel. If one was added to a braced pistol AND met all the requirements for that configuration it *could* work. Filing SBS paperwork is the *safe* route. Or, F the gov't and do whatever you want. 😊
Yup, that one should hold about 11+1 give or take 1.
Would definitely have to put this on a quadrail lol I'm trusting the screws from Mlok mounts to hold up to 12ga recoil.
With M-LOK, the strength is derived from tension on the screws, the nuts which fit into slots on the rail, and the friction of the item against the rail. It's pretty strong, but keymod on the other hand...
@@rhubarbpie2027 lol yeah true, keymod is another animal entirely.
1 3/4'' shells for a compromise, not sure about the performance tho
@@Estoc_Bestoc_ nah, 3 1/2 " magnum Turkey loads and slugs are the way to go.
That's wild. The craziest part to me was that it only cost _____ dollars. Just wow
$200 export price
I guess you can mount 4 on your AR-15 if it’s a quad rail.
Big brain moment
buy a bunch of those little offset rails for back up red dots and bump that number up to 5 baby
@@Ezekiel_Allium paint them pastel colors and engrave smile wait for flash on chokes
@@badkatrising3918 you are groovin on my exact wavelength. Do they make tracer shot? Because if not they should.
And also you could totally rig up a system connecting all your shotgun triggers to the rifles trigger for the ultimate adventure in recoil masochism. The pump grips would be a little trickier but with enough determination anything is possible
Yeah i was kinda baffled by the phrasing of that question😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Hmmm always like the idea of “master key” I can’t help but think of the Turkish shotguns that have flooded the market…hell for the price I’ll slap that in a block II.
I got a FD-12 bullpup,very good gun but omg it’s heavy (all metal body)
They're the OLight of shotguns
all the turkish shotguns i see coming out are some shit like IMPREZADOR 12 MAVERICK 88 CLONE WITH BULLPUP STOCK BURNT BRONZE, 10 ROUND MAG$349
I mean… it’s not like it’s gonna be easy to get anyways.
@@SanAntonioJoker there's a sucker born every second
Remington or Mossberg could make something like this out of one of their braced firearm guns like the Shockwave or Tac-13, which could then be mounted under the barrel of a braced AR pistol. All legal without NFA paperwork/registration
12 gauge recoil on a pistol brace is probably kind of unpleasant
>Masterkey shockwave on a braced AR pistol
I too, am completely fucking insane
@@moreparrotsmoredereks2275 couldn't be worse than an AR10 pistol.
The shockwave/tac13 are only legal because the grip is long enough to push the total length to 26in. Something like this would have to be a registered aow or sbs
@@berettaguy923 AR-10's though are pretty low recoil... I have shot 12ga like a pistol with pistol grips (in fact the wood grips I made for it busted in half during the start of a shooting competition, so I still scored 24 out of 25 clays with half a pistol grip). Sure it has some recoil, but its totally manageable, and that was when I was below 100 pound twig (I'm still a walking twig, but I think I'm just past 100 pounds now at the same 5'11" height).
James, when are we going to get that Turkish shotgun factory tour?
Which one? Gotta be dozens
isn't that like promoting OLight and Raid shadow legends at the same time?
here is little bit of what you asking,this company just one of the best th-cam.com/video/SEeQmcLwWMg/w-d-xo.html
Very cool, I really like the detachable stock design and how they re-used it for this shotgun.
I'm personally more interested in it with the detachable stock. It would make a great truck gun / bedside gun
This would be really cool with mini slugs!!! Under an AR....
I bought 4 boxes of mini shells ( 3 regular 1 buckshot ) from sportsman's warehouse and it was almost $80! Ridiculously expensive but worth it haha
@@TheBGjosh yes for higher capacity definitely
Predator style
@@TheBGjosh ...
does your setup require adapter for mini shells?
Imagine owning a ar15 and someone breaks in shoot them with a rubber slug and it that doesn't deter them then send the lead
Can't help but think of Billy from Predator with his pump action mounted on the bottom of his M16 after seeing the catalogue ;)
Yup , but he met the big P with only his bowie ! Badass
That scene and the one from Predators where the Yakuza guy duels one of them with a katana are peek art, don't care what the critics say: if it's cool then it's good.
Hell yeah. I always think of Billy when I see an underbarrel shotgun.
RIP Sonny Landham
@@freshconnekt yep miss him on screen. Always played a badass character.
I love how awkward all the IWA interviews are and yet still have great info
Good information combined with exquisite awkwardness !! Bound to become a TFB Classic!!
Loving this content, very cool, showing "new'" companies with new innovative ideas. I always like seeing out of country (out out of the box) ideas and motivations.
I don't know why but that interview was magical
I’d like to have seen it get WAY closer up to the rifle barrel/handguard, but still pretty cool!
I gotta own this. Its basically a 870 action made for under slung action.
Your honor, leading the interview...
Thank you James!
I think it would be really good to have it on a 22 rifle because you have the option of hunting small game and having protection against big game that wants to steal your small game
example bear or wolf
Genius
Now to throw this on my CQB 8" .300blk AR build 😆
Haha just thinking the same thing 😂
8" AR, bruh, please tell me you've got a can on that, lol. My ears hurt just thinking about that.
@@andreivaldez2929 it's in jail until big brother says ok. It is a .300 blk I'd never waste a 5.56 like that lol
@@jamesR1990 Another reason to get rid of big brother.
"It's a fun thing." The way he said it was like do I really need to explain its purpose and possible aplications to you?
That's a much more soild looking setup for under-barrel mounting than trying to use a Pic rail that is retained on a shotgun receiver by three or four small screws,
I’ve always loved the idea of an under barrel shotgun almost built one about 35 years ago orange county gun show in California we’re selling the kids are used a Remington 870 under your choice of an A.R. 15 style and they were surfing mostly 12 gauge but they were also available in 20 gauge
Omar has no idea how famous he is now.
Actually I have an idea 😃 hi…
Love the “under-slung-pump-gun”
For that price I could buy # hi-points!
these ppl being interviewed are doing a great job. let's show them.some good old fashioned American love....
Wish I could afford a price of bleep
Well keep saving your bloops and soon enough you'll have more bleep than you'd know what to do with.
I'm almost sure he said 10$US
Curious what he beeped it sounded like 20$ to me
I didn't see that part before these comments so I was confused. Now I can barely hold back laughter 😂
Predator vibes, Love it.
Has there been a Turkish shotgun that survived TFB's testing?
I'm not even sure Turkey has survived ANY testing... lol
@@searchBLOC941 Bayraktar is testing pretty good against Russian vehicles in Ukraine ;p
@@Cplblue Are they as good as the Ghost of Kiev and the Snake Island garrison?
@@lungeranon7645 Given the footage that's coming from them I'd say they are. They're bagging vehicles left and right.
@@lungeranon7645 snake island garrison? You mean the guys that surrendered to the Russians? Do you just believe everything you hear because Snake island was a lie.
What great content! Great questions and let the Rep tell us about their product. Watched two videos today and now subscribed!
I used'ta spend practically every weekend in Nurnberg when I was stationed in Germany in the early 70s...beautiful city...I miss it...
You could have a bloop-tube on the bottom, a rifle in the middle, qnd a shotty on both sides!!! Ultimate firepower!!!
Could you just imagine putting this below your AR15/ Semi AK and loading dragons breath rounds into it??! I would fall in loveeeee🤩🤩🤩🤩
Under Barrel Shotgun…
“It’s a fun thing.”
“Yeah, it seems like a fun thing.”
😂🤣😂 Classic!
That gentleman was so humble and forthcoming about the specifics! Not to mention said yeah sure you can 3D print the pump if you want!
Deffinatly cares about the customer. Probably upsold a little but didn't dodge a single question.
That would be perfect attached to my Galil Ace.
Wow, Really cool to add on to a Ar 10-15 . Nice Job James and TFB TV
Finally a decent rep at a gun show
I like it as a stand alone
Why did you bleep out the price?
YT
it looks amazing! And it is very innovative 👏🏻
Cool stuff here James, cool stuff.
Damn the nfa
The perfect stocking stuffer for Christmas
Good price tbh
I mean I was just gonna take a shockwave and make it actually useful as a master key, but yeah this works too
I didn't know I needed this until I seen this video
Cool.. imagine finding That in your stocking Christmas morning
This looks so kool. BUT I do NOT need that kind of weight at the bottom of my AR. I'd rather just carry a seperate tac14 or a short double barrel in a backpack
For that price I’ll buy three of them!!!
Holy crap, ------ is a great price!
Wow the price is amazing.
@Catherine Owen I was joking because they bleeped the price.
Even if they could make one with an 18" barrel I'd buy it. I've always wanted to attach a shotgun under my rifle like the one in Predator, but that company quit making the kits years ago.
a mossberg 18 in barrel (just in case) with pistol grip removed mounted under a colt AR-15 A2 20 in heavy barrel
Turkish delight.
Mounting this on my Glock
I need this to go along with my Bren 10 and white jacket
Really cool. Gives new meaning to the phrase, "say hello to my lil friend!" 💥👍
I feel it's totally appropriate to say, O.M.G. I FUCKING WANT THAT!
Why did the price need to get bleeped out?
Can't wait for people to complain about this busting off their handguard.
I assume this would be sold as a pistol. Then if you want to add it under a rifle then you would have to register it as an sbs, maybe an aow?
It is sold as a destructive device / SBS
Love the bleep
Best quality guns of turkey
great interview - looks like a great product !!!
All these gins are rad as hell. Tjanks for posting
what a cool little gun, seems way more practical than civilian 37mm launchers
That would be so cool under a quad railed ar.... I could even see it being used militarily or law enforcement.
very innovative! great coverage!
I didn't know I needed this until now.
Loving the foreign stuff
Why add just one? With a quad rail who needs sights. Add four shotties. Am I wrong? And for the ones who just can't hipfire add three leaving sights on top.
Can you swap the barrels out for longer ones? What about a longer barrel with chokes
This has to be the coolest thing on this channel today ! A shotgun attachment for AR-style rifle!!!!!!
I am loosing my mind on how cool this is
Need that in a short shorts montage dripping with 80's vibes.
I remember Billy from "Predator" had the old school one
the best friend against fpv drones
If it actually makes it to market... I am NOT spending $5000 on an m26 mass 18", then $200 to sbs it, and then spend 6 years trying to find unobtanium parts for it...
The six shot underbarrel... the m26... the serbu shortys... all unobtanium.
P.S. thread it for breaching barrel attachments.
Why stop at one, If you have a block II rail the 3 and 9 positions are also open...
It's easier to own that in other countries rather than the country who has gun ownership guaranteed in It's Constitution.
That is crazy but true. I'm in that country. We are being denied a God-given right. Now, the people who are infringing on that right are praising Ukraine for arming their citizens. It makes no sense.
Yep, here they are considered "short guns" and they can be shotguns, stock, foregrips, etc...
It's weird how for our laws if the "short gun" is longer it's seen as "less dangerous", because our lawmakers were afraid of conceald guns, while over there a bigger pistol is seen more dangerous.
James: "Omar tell us about this gun."
Omar: "I ain't got time to bleed."
😏😅😂😂😂😂😂
Very nice man. He makes you smile.
Love the outtro music… happy 80s music. Cold war is starting again… seems even more appropriate.
Very cool
Wow. All this for [REDACTED]?
This thing is SWEET I need one!
now this is pretty interesting.
attach to a pic rail, and a quad rail M4? thinking what am thinking?
the beep is the best!
“It’s a fun thing” best comment.
This guy is so in love with himself
I don't know why, but that dude seems cool as hell (unlike some salespeople).
All positive love the show ,,, awesome shotgun ...
Fun way to open doors.
Regardless of the politics, I really like a lot of the stuff the Turks are bringing in. Canik, Sarsilmaz, and all the affordable clones (hi power, 1911, Benelli m4) etc.
I absolutely love this.
"If you've got the grenade launcher chassis, then BOOM, it just all works together."
LOL Good one, but I don't think James actually meant for it to come out like that.
They make a 12 gauge shotgun insert for the 37mm flare launcher. Yeah it would a be a single shot but no paperwork or tax stamps.