@@Osprey1994 no its normal for me for two reasons: 1. i live just 1h away from b&t headquarters, so its a domestic product for me and 2. i want something as compact as possible, which the B&T chassis compaired to this certainly is
This is exactly how this system should be setup. Good job, German engineers. So much better than sticking an entire pistol in a chassis. What Glock should’ve done years ago, you know, if Glock had any forward thinking ideas…
They are all Germans lol Austrians deny it especially after WW2 but the whole world know what's up! Great engineering and thorough people! They've advanced the world so much even have the best beer!
@@Edmondson_Avenue right. I was speaking to the original comment's mention of Glock's lack of forward thinking. I should have clarified, I was not talking about this. This is awesome
@@bryananderson3772 that’s probably true, but it’s shape isn’t AR-15 enough to fulfill one’s GI Joe fantasy lmao 🤣… but honestly, I’d buy this thing if it’s as buttery as an authentic HK MP5 in the subcompact variety
The problem that these often are problematic with US laws that treat handguns and rifles very differently. One of the reasons that these are popular in Europe and other jurisdictions is that the legislation often limits you to number of firearms and calibers. No one will treat an AR-15 with a buffer tube as a "Pistol" this is very much a US thing. The US definition of a pistol and rifle is very much dependent on external features rather than the caliber and indented use so when you put a handgun in a chassis you are essentially creating a rifle which would prevent it from being used ever again as a handgun, since the lower frame is often the serialized part.
Hey German guy here (from Nuremberg), what you can not see is, how massive and absolutely high quality this thing is. And it is absolutely amazing to shoot!
My friend has a "KPOS", its not very accurate at all, this new one here in video might actually bring actual rifle like accuracy within the effective range of the gun.
This guy was doing his absolute best to talk about it in English. I could tell he wanted to say so much more about it but he didnt have the right words in the moment. Well done Francis
I watched a German review of this product a few months back and I love this. Elegant, simple, built to work. It's so German, I think I hear Brahms playing, softly in the distance.
As has been stated before, the designers knocked this out of the park, and I cannot wait for it to inspire designs around FCU based firearms, utilizing FCU and magazine alone. Perhaps we'll end up with an MP7-esque Ruger that doesn't rely on a clamshell around the slide.
Could probably be done real easy for the Sig 320 or 365 since the FCU is so small and easy to drop in a new system. I never even thought of the possibility of having a rifle you could jsut drop the Sig FCU into. That sounds amazing.
Awesome news that Norlite already has plans to ship/build these for the US market. I can see a couple of other comments about the MechTech carbine conversion system, which has been around for at least a decade or more. It is similar in that it utilizes the frame and magazine, and has barrel lengths ranging from 10-16". The good: MechTech covers a wider range of handguns: Glock, Springfield XD/XDm, and a variety of 1911/2011 pistols, and are reportedly working on an upper for the S&W M&P pistols. They also offer multiple caliber options: 9MM, .40SW and 10MM, .45ACP and .460 Rowland. The not so good: the operation is likely only a few people, and lead times were long even prior to the beer bug burninating the supply chain. They are also relatively simplistic designs, a direct blowback operating system built around a round tube receiver, reminiscent of the Sten gun. The options for mounting accessories and furniture are very limited as well. No MLOK compatibility, etc. The subjective: The MechTech stuff works well, but it looks like a rejected design from a Fallout game. The Norlite fixes a huge number of issues, mainly how to effectively mount optics, lights, etc to your ersatz Glockarbine, and the price the gentleman you interviewed ballparked is well within reason compared to the price for an upper from MechTech, especially given the improvements to ergonomics, mounting accessories and aesthetics compared to the MechTech product. Hopefully they listen to their US partner and are receptive to offering them in multiple calibers; 9MM is fine, but don't diss the .40S&W, 10MM and .45ACP, which there are millions of examples of Glock handguns chambered for in the hands of potential US customers.
Very cool to see you covering the IWA. I have attended many years in the past and it is an eye opener to see what is out there in the rest of the world we don’t get to see in the USA. The “W” in German is “vay” so, IVA
This looks amazing. Finally something to make a Glock an attractive option. Shut up and take my money. They also offer a polygonal rifles barrel. I hope this hits our shores soon.
This looks a lot like the Mech Tech systems, except done right. I had a 10mm Mech Tech that shot well, but was ridiculously heavy. Hoping they make a .45 acp model for the 21sf!
@@RedDogRichard2112 I owned one. You couldn't field strip the upper without tools and there was no way to carry the gun safely because the Glock trigger is always exposed (as opposed to being in a holster).
@@9unslin9er wow that is bad, I'm shocked they didnt put a safety in the desgin! I kind of wanted one but at the time they didnt have threaded barrels (a pcc without a threaded barrel is stupid). Honestly MechTech uppers and JRcarbines are two things Im surprised still exist.
I happened upon this video as I was looking for a lighter alternative to my 10mm Mech Tech. Unfortunately there does not really seem to be anything other than the Mech Tech, Roni and Flux on the market for 10mm.
I must say this is available for some time here in Germany, but it did not take off. I did the configuration some time ago, and ended up at 1500 Euro. For that i can get a Beretta CX4 and I don't have a glock trigger. The system is also very top heavy.
I see issues with the legality of this in the states. You could theoretically get a polymer 80 frame, an aftermarket trigger kit, and order this and you have a full unsearialized gun. I want 3.
If it comes with a stock or if the braces loophole goes away then this becomes an sbr. Would be hard to register a sbr without a serial number I'd imagine. So I can't see how a p80 build with this would be legal unless they grandfathered in existing braces.
Looks useful and actually looks aesthetically cool. On most chassis I think “what’s the point” but this looks solid and stable and like your pistol becomes an actual carbine
I’ve been using a Mec-Tec Carbine for my 1911A1 and my ParaOrdnance 14-45 in 45ACP for years. Almost the same basic principle principle most likely a lot less expensive.
I can absolutely see myself picking this up, much better system. And if you take into account that most people already have a glock but not a pcc or similar, this could be a cheaper yet still fun and effective alternative to getting a new gun
I've wondered why they haven't already using all the components (fire control,frame) of the 17/19, it's true Glock makes 1 gun in different sizes and caliber, variety would be new lol.
We've had something similar for years called the Mech Tech CCU. However, that unit was not easily dissasembled for cleaning. If they keep these under $500, and lightweight, it would be a good alternative. Also, this needs some type of mechanical safety over the trigger guard.
I'm glad James didn't gloss over this and give the "I only wear bright, 6" shorts while drinking obscure hard seltzers" look and just blow by this booth.
I actually like this, and would probably buy one, if I saw it here in the US. I honestly hate drop-in chassis systems, but this looks purpose built and I can tell how sturdy it is based on the sound it make when it was placed on the counter. I hope they wind up with a good US partner and can get them on the market.
This would be a great product for Canada as well. All legally purchased Glocks are registered already, so there's no extra steps or paperwork to convert it into an SBR.
For the love of Gaston. I've been waiting for something like this for years. Only option for grip fed platforms are wonky chassis' or the sub 2k. If they can figure out an mp5/7 style stock or brace, I'm 1,000,000% in, regardless of price
@@Opsgermanysoldier weird. Cause I haven't seen the lawsuits from HK about the KelTec CMR 30 stock or zenith who make knock off mp5s. Maybe because the patent expired long ago, yo
This might just be the best PDW set up in comparison to those Flux raider kits because with the fixed barrel, you can attach a silencer without worrying about cycling issues. I would actually really want to buy one of these, especially if they make a super-collapsible stock/brace for a backpack gun PDW
The neatest thing about these to me is the accuracy/consistency potential compared to other chassis kits. You've got a rail and barrel that are affixed to each other even when you remove the pistol. Accuracy wasn't mentioned explicitly in the video, but the presence of multiple magnified optics on the examples they have there indicates at least that they want to project confidence in the accuracy of the platform. Lord knows I wouldn't put a magnified optic on my roni.
Most of Europe has insanely high taxes. How do you think they pay for "free" healthcare? It's only feasible if they take most of your money up front in taxes.
Absolutely awesome... *IF* the "AFT" can be kept in check... as the law enforcement agency it is, instead of the law creating body that it wants to think it is.
the issue is more PCC are sold each year than any other category of firearm outside handguns themselves which is why everyone seem to be making them now
This chassis looks so much better than the normal offerings in the states. I cannot wait to see it in the US. I hope they are able to get this off the ground stateside.
So in the usa that would be considerd an nfa item unless they make one with a brace 🤔. But they can buy it in Germany like a loaf of bread. Interesting
But I don't think handguns are easy to acquire in Germany. In less restrictive states in the US, you could buy and walk out with a handgun from a store within a hour.
The german gun laws are verry strange. I can buy a 50 BMG bolt action rifle without asking anyone.If i want to buy a semi automatic rifle or a handgun of any caliber, i have to do paperwork and deal with the authorities and my shooting club. It is illegal to mount lights or lasers on your gun, even on airsoft guns. Max 10 round magazines for rifles and 20 round for pistols. Greetings from Germany.
Ya if it has a buttstock it would be considered a short barrel rifle. But with a pistol brace it would be considered a pistol (for now). A 16' inch barrel version would be sweet. Then we could have a real buttstock... and a vertical grip. And light for load 9mm bullets (less than 90 grains) really scream out of of 16' inch barrels. 🤗
Excellent German craftsmanship. I converted a Glock 21sf to a 10mm carbine with a MechTech and absolutely love it. With a red dot I am accurate out to 100 yards with mine. Tons of fun shooting steel targets.
@@NihilusTheGreat It isn’t a pistol or a rifle until you attach it to a frame. This would not meet the classification of a “firearm”, and as such would not be a serialized part. Just throw a pistol brace on it before mounting to the Glock frame and you’re good to go…just don’t add a vertical fore-grip
German guy here. (our gun laws are simply silly!) I ordered one. First I thought about a Schmeisser AR-15 in 9mm, but that would take up one spot out of three on the gun ownership card. So I have all three slots left for a real (or two) AR-15... 😬👍 Hope it will come soon! Can't wait for it for longer!
@@christisking1576 For people that already have glocks I mean. And what carbines are you referring to? The cheapest ARs are M&Ps for 650-750. Even diamondbacks are 1200 and up. 9mm carbines you would have to build your own, in which case you could do for well under 1000, but for the pre-built market there aren't a huge selection of cheap < 1k carbines (that I know of).
If they made it 16 inches, it would count as a rifle in Germany - meaning it could only use 10-round magazines. It would also magically convert all Glock magazines in your safe into "forbidden items" because you now own a rifle with compatible >10 round magazines. It would be a more than nonsensical product for the German market. But hey, maybe they want to make one for export only.
Hey James, do you accept PayPal??? I'll send you the money to bring me back 1!!!👍👍👍 Or stuff it down you shorts, just wash it before you give it me!!!!
Its an awesome system and the quality of it is impressive. Proud to see some real german engineering in the gun world. The Norlite is a completely different league from the known Glock chassis. To be honest it is even a different league then the glock itself ;)
I’ve never been a Glock guy. Nothing against them, was never interested. As an American living in Germany with a license, I very well may buy my first Glock now. “No Honey, this boner isn’t for you - it’s for the Glock!”
That should be accessible in the states too. Once you put it on the frame, it would be considered a "rifle" by law forever. Complete glock frames can be found for $150...this is cool enough I might buy one...
This kicks the crap out of the Roni. Better ballistics and doesn't look like something you buy on amazon for $19. I never understood why you would buy a Roni but this is actually practical. Take my money! Glock should have been making these in the first place, really missed the boat on this. As for the MechTech, I'm sure they are fine but they look like a stamped sheet metal grease gun and this looks like a qaulity built G36. Worth a little extra IMO.
This is a cool product. Some of the other chassis systems that have been featured recently were also cool, but this is on another level. The difference between this and any of the others that cradle or clamshell clamp onto the entire pistol or majority of the pistol has to be astronomical.
Another HUGE plus under German gun law is that this thing still counts as a pistol, not a rifle. That means you can use it with 20-round magazines and a folding stock.
Damn man i feel him. I have half my fire arm knowledge from military service and the other half from YT. And mixing or forgetting what one word means is really frustrating
Without experience in real life, and "only saw" the video's about upgrading your Glock or other pistols, I only can share my thoughts about this one. Watching videos from other manufacturers, models and systems, this is the first one that sounds right. I think if you build or transfer your Glock then this is the way it should be? I talk about safety and accuracy. It does not look like two peaces, it looks like one massive solid machine! Germany brought it to another level!
5:01 „you dont need it but its cool“ germans are just way to honest and know what we want to hear. 99% of ppl who buy these wanna larp or just go to the range to have fun
Look up MechTech. It’s an American company that makes something very similar. They have been around for quite awhile. They make them for not only Glock, but 1911 frames also.
They should sell these to security companies and law enforcement agencies that typically resell banged up but functional glocks on the civilian market. It's a neat way to have a slick carbine that uses the ammo already on your belt, that can be grabbed in those moments when you have enough time to grab a long gun, but not LBE.
Make PSA your partner for the KIT ,or a patent deal of some sort as PSA usually is a bang for your buck company, They have come a long ways over the last 4-5 years in my opinion, even starting their own ammo manufacturing company and have made a few cool guns of their own...
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The only chassis that actually looks useful, good to see this kind of product coming to the market.
While this does seem better in some ways have you ever tried a Roni or an MCK? Those things are far from useless
It's already been done by mectech
i would be an idiot to take this over a chassis from B&T
@@Genesis23OPB Ya'll are weird...
@@Osprey1994 no its normal for me for two reasons: 1. i live just 1h away from b&t headquarters, so its a domestic product for me and 2. i want something as compact as possible, which the B&T chassis compaired to this certainly is
This is exactly how this system should be setup. Good job, German engineers. So much better than sticking an entire pistol in a chassis. What Glock should’ve done years ago, you know, if Glock had any forward thinking ideas…
The Glock booth is literally right next to Norlite
They are all Germans lol Austrians deny it especially after WW2 but the whole world know what's up!
Great engineering and thorough people! They've advanced the world so much even have the best beer!
Forward thinking? Who needs forward thinking when I can just sell you the same product and tell you it's new and better?
@@rookshaw4974 it's is with a different upper
@@Edmondson_Avenue right. I was speaking to the original comment's mention of Glock's lack of forward thinking. I should have clarified, I was not talking about this. This is awesome
I wasn't expecting this. Finally a pistol chassis that looks worthy.
Yup. This is what the mech tech carbine should have been
The micro roni is still better
@@bryananderson3772 that’s probably true, but it’s shape isn’t AR-15 enough to fulfill one’s GI Joe fantasy lmao 🤣… but honestly, I’d buy this thing if it’s as buttery as an authentic HK MP5 in the subcompact variety
The problem that these often are problematic with US laws that treat handguns and rifles very differently. One of the reasons that these are popular in Europe and other jurisdictions is that the legislation often limits you to number of firearms and calibers. No one will treat an AR-15 with a buffer tube as a "Pistol" this is very much a US thing.
The US definition of a pistol and rifle is very much dependent on external features rather than the caliber and indented use so when you put a handgun in a chassis you are essentially creating a rifle which would prevent it from being used ever again as a handgun, since the lower frame is often the serialized part.
Hey German guy here (from Nuremberg), what you can not see is, how massive and absolutely high quality this thing is. And it is absolutely amazing to shoot!
These look like a much cooler option than the chasis that we have here in the US
Not a fan of the macaroni?
My friend has a "KPOS", its not very accurate at all, this new one here in video might actually bring actual rifle like accuracy within the effective range of the gun.
What's wrong with Mech Tech?
well its not really a chassis, its more of an creative extention of the slide
@@Genesis23OPB yes, quite like the system in the video...
This guy was doing his absolute best to talk about it in English. I could tell he wanted to say so much more about it but he didnt have the right words in the moment. Well done Francis
I watched a German review of this product a few months back and I love this. Elegant, simple, built to work. It's so German, I think I hear Brahms playing, softly in the distance.
yes- that is Brahms playing in the background... 🙃
Very cool. I’ve considered “Ronin“ type, but this seems very quality and the bolt and barrel separate is better by far
You mean Roni, right?
@@Duwurf guy in the video said ronin so theyre mimicking that
MechTech
@@onetruedodd They dont make MechTech anymore do they? This seems like a nice new (better!?) version of that.
@@CodyLundberg they still do.
Captured pins would be awesome.
That extra feed ramp piece is interesting.
Definitely hoping for a deal in the US.👍
That ‘separate’ feed ramp has me thinking…🤔
I have aPTR91/G3 clone. Nothing wrong with the pull out pins. You won't lose them unless you are "really" careless!
As has been stated before, the designers knocked this out of the park, and I cannot wait for it to inspire designs around FCU based firearms, utilizing FCU and magazine alone. Perhaps we'll end up with an MP7-esque Ruger that doesn't rely on a clamshell around the slide.
Hear Hear! The past gossip and rumor(s) perhaps of a Glock Carbine and or similar has inadvertently came True.
Could probably be done real easy for the Sig 320 or 365 since the FCU is so small and easy to drop in a new system. I never even thought of the possibility of having a rifle you could jsut drop the Sig FCU into. That sounds amazing.
Now that would be something I'd actually save up money for and buy
What does FCU stand for?
@FOVoid fire control unit
More ingenuity in this than anything from shot show.
Someone better snatch this up fast on the US market
It was already done years ago....by mech tech....these are just modern iterations.
@@prone_wolf8871 never heard of mech tech until yesterday I looked at their stuff and it looks like junk
@@L0ck0ut1 never said it wasn't...hahaha...was simply pointing out the idea had been done for a long time.
Been using Mec-Tecs for years and they work great. They'll need to keep the price under a grand to compete well here.
These blow US chassis’s away. Super cool SBR type weapon system. Now this IS innovation!
Awesome news that Norlite already has plans to ship/build these for the US market.
I can see a couple of other comments about the MechTech carbine conversion system, which has been around for at least a decade or more. It is similar in that it utilizes the frame and magazine, and has barrel lengths ranging from 10-16".
The good: MechTech covers a wider range of handguns: Glock, Springfield XD/XDm, and a variety of 1911/2011 pistols, and are reportedly working on an upper for the S&W M&P pistols.
They also offer multiple caliber options: 9MM, .40SW and 10MM, .45ACP and .460 Rowland.
The not so good: the operation is likely only a few people, and lead times were long even prior to the beer bug burninating the supply chain. They are also relatively simplistic designs, a direct blowback operating system built around a round tube receiver, reminiscent of the Sten gun. The options for mounting accessories and furniture are very limited as well. No MLOK compatibility, etc.
The subjective: The MechTech stuff works well, but it looks like a rejected design from a Fallout game. The Norlite fixes a huge number of issues, mainly how to effectively mount optics, lights, etc to your ersatz Glockarbine, and the price the gentleman you interviewed ballparked is well within reason compared to the price for an upper from MechTech, especially given the improvements to ergonomics, mounting accessories and aesthetics compared to the MechTech product.
Hopefully they listen to their US partner and are receptive to offering them in multiple calibers; 9MM is fine, but don't diss the .40S&W, 10MM and .45ACP, which there are millions of examples of Glock handguns chambered for in the hands of potential US customers.
Holy crap, that is brilliant. Just adding a fire control group to a full upper solves so many problems! Take my money!
Very cool to see you covering the IWA. I have attended many years in the past and it is an eye opener to see what is out there in the rest of the world we don’t get to see in the USA. The “W” in German is “vay” so, IVA
This looks amazing. Finally something to make a Glock an attractive option. Shut up and take my money. They also offer a polygonal rifles barrel. I hope this hits our shores soon.
@Catherine Owen there is no such thing as a legit vendor on telegram. Lol. You get a 1/10 for effort.
This looks a lot like the Mech Tech systems, except done right. I had a 10mm Mech Tech that shot well, but was ridiculously heavy. Hoping they make a .45 acp model for the 21sf!
I was just thinking of the Mech Tech system. This looks a hell of a lot nicer.
I thought instantly, dont we already have that, this looks familiar? Mech Tech uppers, i never hear anyone talk about them anymore.
@@RedDogRichard2112 I owned one. You couldn't field strip the upper without tools and there was no way to carry the gun safely because the Glock trigger is always exposed (as opposed to being in a holster).
@@9unslin9er wow that is bad, I'm shocked they didnt put a safety in the desgin! I kind of wanted one but at the time they didnt have threaded barrels (a pcc without a threaded barrel is stupid). Honestly MechTech uppers and JRcarbines are two things Im surprised still exist.
I happened upon this video as I was looking for a lighter alternative to my 10mm Mech Tech. Unfortunately there does not really seem to be anything other than the Mech Tech, Roni and Flux on the market for 10mm.
Wow, this is super well developed. I hope they are successful.
I must say this is available for some time here in Germany, but it did not take off. I did the configuration some time ago, and ended up at 1500 Euro. For that i can get a Beretta CX4 and I don't have a glock trigger. The system is also very top heavy.
That system is badass, I hope it comes to the states. Sooo badass.
I see issues with the legality of this in the states. You could theoretically get a polymer 80 frame, an aftermarket trigger kit, and order this and you have a full unsearialized gun. I want 3.
It’s the exact same thing as building a p80
It's always been legal to make your own guns, serialized or not.
If it comes with a stock or if the braces loophole goes away then this becomes an sbr. Would be hard to register a sbr without a serial number I'd imagine. So I can't see how a p80 build with this would be legal unless they grandfathered in existing braces.
Looks useful and actually looks aesthetically cool. On most chassis I think “what’s the point” but this looks solid and stable and like your pistol becomes an actual carbine
I’ve been using a Mec-Tec Carbine for my 1911A1 and my ParaOrdnance 14-45 in 45ACP for years. Almost the same basic principle principle most likely a lot less expensive.
I was thinking the same thing, it's a more expensive better looking mechtec.
Exactly. I had a mec tec in the early 2000s for my Glock 22
I can absolutely see myself picking this up, much better system. And if you take into account that most people already have a glock but not a pcc or similar, this could be a cheaper yet still fun and effective alternative to getting a new gun
I could see this being picked up from Glock and sold directly from the factory as THE "Glock Carbine".
I've wondered why they haven't already using all the components (fire control,frame) of the 17/19, it's true Glock makes 1 gun in different sizes and caliber, variety would be new lol.
I had the same thought.
Glock MP7 vibes, I want one!
We've had something similar for years called the Mech Tech CCU.
However, that unit was not easily dissasembled for cleaning. If they keep these under $500, and lightweight, it would be a good alternative.
Also, this needs some type of mechanical safety over the trigger guard.
You poor. This is clearly going to be 800 plus. If you can’t afford it go play with your hi point
well, he said the price. just under 1k
@@thebigmoizt3270 don’t be bitter
Victor Escamilla open your wrists in your bathtub, vicky
@@FunkBastid that escalated quickly
Those are sharp man.
Good video, thanks James
Looks a lot like a very well made Hi point carbine. It would be very cool in 10mm
Comparing this to a hi point is blasphemy. 😆 I’m with you on the 10mm, though.
You're right, Space Force Hi-Point.
They are working on .40, 10 and .45 already. Had a nice and long talk with those guys today
Yep, gonna try and get this in 10mm if it comes to the States.
I'm glad James didn't gloss over this and give the "I only wear bright, 6" shorts while drinking obscure hard seltzers" look and just blow by this booth.
I actually like this, and would probably buy one, if I saw it here in the US. I honestly hate drop-in chassis systems, but this looks purpose built and I can tell how sturdy it is based on the sound it make when it was placed on the counter. I hope they wind up with a good US partner and can get them on the market.
This would be a great product for Canada as well. All legally purchased Glocks are registered already, so there's no extra steps or paperwork to convert it into an SBR.
This looks quite similar (at least in principle) to the Mech Tech carbine conversions that we've had for about 20 years.
Thinking the same thing. I have 3 and they work great!
This is the first “chassis” system that actually flipped my skirt. Hoping to see these in the US at some point.
For the love of Gaston. I've been waiting for something like this for years. Only option for grip fed platforms are wonky chassis' or the sub 2k. If they can figure out an mp5/7 style stock or brace, I'm 1,000,000% in, regardless of price
HK would sue the shit out of them. patent laws are and "copyright" on designs are very strict here
@@Opsgermanysoldier weird. Cause I haven't seen the lawsuits from HK about the KelTec CMR 30 stock or zenith who make knock off mp5s. Maybe because the patent expired long ago, yo
This is the coolest thing from iwa so far and maybe even better than most stuff from shot show, hope we get them here in US
This might just be the best PDW set up in comparison to those Flux raider kits because with the fixed barrel, you can attach a silencer without worrying about cycling issues. I would actually really want to buy one of these, especially if they make a super-collapsible stock/brace for a backpack gun PDW
The neatest thing about these to me is the accuracy/consistency potential compared to other chassis kits. You've got a rail and barrel that are affixed to each other even when you remove the pistol. Accuracy wasn't mentioned explicitly in the video, but the presence of multiple magnified optics on the examples they have there indicates at least that they want to project confidence in the accuracy of the platform. Lord knows I wouldn't put a magnified optic on my roni.
The product is really cool (I wonder if it can accept a Magpul UBR stock?) but GOOD GOD, Germany has a 19% sales tax!? That's insane!
It is!
Most of Europe has insanely high taxes. How do you think they pay for "free" healthcare? It's only feasible if they take most of your money up front in taxes.
@@colby1398they also have a way higher quality of living. Whereas in America we pay insane amounts in taxes and get nothing except forever wars.
Absolutely awesome... *IF* the "AFT" can be kept in check... as the law enforcement agency it is, instead of the law creating body that it wants to think it is.
That is an amazing innovation. about time someone did this. the mech tech stuff looks like it was made by high point in comparison.
It also costs 2x-3x as much...
Jeremy‘s head turned so fast back to the guy to talk to him when the video ended I thought his head was gonna fall off😂This is a great product
I've gotten sick of the PCC category but, this is really cool! I can't wait to see this hopefully for that price he was saying under $1k
the issue is more PCC are sold each year than any other category of firearm outside handguns themselves which is why everyone seem to be making them now
This chassis looks so much better than the normal offerings in the states. I cannot wait to see it in the US. I hope they are able to get this off the ground stateside.
So in the usa that would be considerd an nfa item unless they make one with a brace 🤔. But they can buy it in Germany like a loaf of bread. Interesting
But I don't think handguns are easy to acquire in Germany. In less restrictive states in the US, you could buy and walk out with a handgun from a store within a hour.
The german gun laws are verry strange. I can buy a 50 BMG bolt action rifle without asking anyone.If i want to buy a semi automatic rifle or a handgun of any caliber, i have to do paperwork and deal with the authorities and my shooting club.
It is illegal to mount lights or lasers on your gun, even on airsoft guns.
Max 10 round magazines for rifles and 20 round for pistols.
Greetings from Germany.
Ya if it has a buttstock it would be considered a short barrel rifle.
But with a pistol brace it would be considered a pistol (for now).
A 16' inch barrel version would be sweet. Then we could have a real buttstock... and a vertical grip.
And light for load 9mm bullets (less than 90 grains) really scream out of of 16' inch barrels.
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Glad to see people mentioning Mech-Tech systems
Yea, that’s rad. I’d like to see a folding stock option though.
Could use a buffer tube to 1913 adapter. Folding buffer tube adapters are also available
I would definitely be interested in this if it hits the U.S. market- looks like a winner. Good job James.
Not too big into pistol chassis systems or pcc either really BUT a glock 40 would be awesome to be able to swap back and forth in and out of a chassis
The best millimeter is the chassis I am waiting for!
@@mcdoctorglock my 10mm glocks are the only guns I regret selling
Yeah, they need it in 10mm which i personally think is the best PCC caliber.
Excellent German craftsmanship. I converted a Glock 21sf to a 10mm carbine with a MechTech and absolutely love it. With a red dot I am accurate out to 100 yards with mine. Tons of fun shooting steel targets.
James, import these and you'll be a multi MULTI MILLIONAIRE mines free tho for twisting your arm!
If it rolls up on our shores I am sure it will see plenty of excited buyers.
I wonder if they’ll have a 16” option in the US or if it’s only for SBRs.
They could sell it without the stock, then it would be a pistol
I can see both a legal-length carbine kit and a short kit with a brace happening. It'd be foolish not to do.
Most of these look like 16in already. I didn't hear a length mentioned but I'm sure they're considering those lengths
@@NihilusTheGreat Yep, plenty of AR tube brace options.
@@NihilusTheGreat It isn’t a pistol or a rifle until you attach it to a frame. This would not meet the classification of a “firearm”, and as such would not be a serialized part. Just throw a pistol brace on it before mounting to the Glock frame and you’re good to go…just don’t add a vertical fore-grip
I would buy one in a heartbeat! It's a slick and simple looking setup!!
Neet; such a shame that in belgium, this would be considered a whole new gun... Guess my kpos stock will have to do...
Our laws concerning weapons are ridiculously stupid!
@@JeanB- an universal truth
German guy here. (our gun laws are simply silly!)
I ordered one. First I thought about a Schmeisser AR-15 in 9mm, but that would take up one spot out of three on the gun ownership card. So I have all three slots left for a real (or two) AR-15... 😬👍
Hope it will come soon! Can't wait for it for longer!
If this came to US market under $1,000 I think it could be successful.
It would have to cost less than that because the total would be over $1500. There are plenty of shorter length carbines for way less than that.
@@christisking1576 For people that already have glocks I mean. And what carbines are you referring to? The cheapest ARs are M&Ps for 650-750. Even diamondbacks are 1200 and up. 9mm carbines you would have to build your own, in which case you could do for well under 1000, but for the pre-built market there aren't a huge selection of cheap < 1k carbines (that I know of).
@Alexis de Tocqueville Mech Techs run for about 500, and can also fit 1911's and XD's and XDM's. Not as refined as this though.
Definitely will be looking for these in the US, Hopeful a 16 inch to avoid ATF and SBR brace BS.
If they made it 16 inches, it would count as a rifle in Germany - meaning it could only use 10-round magazines. It would also magically convert all Glock magazines in your safe into "forbidden items" because you now own a rifle with compatible >10 round magazines. It would be a more than nonsensical product for the German market.
But hey, maybe they want to make one for export only.
If this thing was any more German it would invade Poland
*I can’t wait to bring this to Show & Tell at my school!*
Hey James, do you accept PayPal??? I'll send you the money to bring me back 1!!!👍👍👍 Or stuff it down you shorts, just wash it before you give it me!!!!
Its an awesome system and the quality of it is impressive. Proud to see some real german engineering in the gun world.
The Norlite is a completely different league from the known Glock chassis. To be honest it is even a different league then the glock itself ;)
stellt sich nur noch die frage ob ich meine 15 schuss magazine verwenden darf oder mir 10 schuss mags kaufen muss weil langwaffe
@@johniron7269 Laut Norlite HP bleibt die Kurzwaffeneigenschaft erhalten weil die kürzeste verwendbare Gesamtlänge unter 600mm bleibt.
@@TheHikrr das kling ja nice
@@johniron7269 Darfst auch 20 verwenden. Ist immer noch eine Kurzwaffe.
I’ve never been a Glock guy. Nothing against them, was never interested. As an American living in Germany with a license, I very well may buy my first Glock now. “No Honey, this boner isn’t for you - it’s for the Glock!”
@Eric
Are you a dual-citizen?
Or permanent resident?
If not.. can residence permits allow firearm licenses there?
Serious MP7 vibes. I would flip out over a version that had an MP7 style stock.
JAMES IS THE KING OF GUN REVIEWERS
That should be accessible in the states too. Once you put it on the frame, it would be considered a "rifle" by law forever. Complete glock frames can be found for $150...this is cool enough I might buy one...
Finally something that similar to CX4/MX4 layout. Not so many pistol type with fixed barrel. I mean with magazine in the grip.
lol, james' expression when he realized that he meant to say non reciprocating. took him a second
also this thing looks sick as frick. Reminds me of that miktek chassis system
I love see manufactures push the envelope on things that some people don’t do.
"you don't need it, but it's cool." i like this guy
This kicks the crap out of the Roni. Better ballistics and doesn't look like something you buy on amazon for $19. I never understood why you would buy a Roni but this is actually practical. Take my money! Glock should have been making these in the first place, really missed the boat on this. As for the MechTech, I'm sure they are fine but they look like a stamped sheet metal grease gun and this looks like a qaulity built G36. Worth a little extra IMO.
I've never been too hot for pistol chassis systems...but damn, those look nice.
A company called Mech-Tech makes something very similar to this in the US. 16" barrel, and it ships right to your door.
The German guy trying to say "reciprocating" was deadass one of the funniest things I've heard in a while.
The 3D printing community is gonna go nuts for this
Same grip and trigger. I like that!
If they sold a braced pistol version in the US, I'm sure it would be very popular.
in 10mm, also.
@@mcdoctorglock all the calibers! :-D
This is a cool product. Some of the other chassis systems that have been featured recently were also cool, but this is on another level. The difference between this and any of the others that cradle or clamshell clamp onto the entire pistol or majority of the pistol has to be astronomical.
Wow 😮. This is exactly what I want. Talk about the perfect truck gun.
Another HUGE plus under German gun law is that this thing still counts as a pistol, not a rifle. That means you can use it with 20-round magazines and a folding stock.
I really hope this comes to the US.. this is friggin awesome... more awesome if it will fit PSA dagger frames and P80s.
Nice find James. THIS is an awesome PCC kit for Das Block.
"A little bit of a Glock guy myself" A little? Understatement of the year.
Now that's fricken cool... I want one.
So when can we put in pre-orders..
...I like it...certainly easier than trying to find an aftermarket 16 in barrel...AND installing that barrel.
Been waiting for these to come to market in the US!!!
Hope you're also gonna be there next year! It's not that far from where I live. Would be happy to bump into you James!
Big up to TFBtv for all the current gun show coverage! Home & abroad! We live it!
This is awesome. I'd love to have one of these
Damn man i feel him. I have half my fire arm knowledge from military service and the other half from YT. And mixing or forgetting what one word means is really frustrating
Literally the only chassis kit I'd buy. Below $1000? Patented? Sheesh, not bad.
Without experience in real life, and "only saw" the video's about upgrading your Glock or other pistols, I only can share my thoughts about this one.
Watching videos from other manufacturers, models and systems, this is the first one that sounds right. I think if you build or transfer your Glock then this is the way it should be? I talk about safety and accuracy. It does not look like two peaces, it looks like one massive solid machine! Germany brought it to another level!
This is certainly an improvement over the previous times Austria and Germany teamed up!
@minute
Are you referring to when the Leipzig Philharmonic plays Beethoven's 5th Symphony?
This is a way overdue and much better way to accomplish this then other current systems
Very nice concept, if they can somehow bring this to market at 700 to 800, it will sell like crazy
The innovation is insane lots of different and new approaches to glock kits
Love the Glock Carbine (chassis)!!!
5:01 „you dont need it but its cool“ germans are just way to honest and know what we want to hear. 99% of ppl who buy these wanna larp or just go to the range to have fun
Look up MechTech. It’s an American company that makes something very similar. They have been around for quite awhile. They make them for not only Glock, but 1911 frames also.
They should sell these to security companies and law enforcement agencies that typically resell banged up but functional glocks on the civilian market. It's a neat way to have a slick carbine that uses the ammo already on your belt, that can be grabbed in those moments when you have enough time to grab a long gun, but not LBE.
Make PSA your partner for the KIT ,or a patent deal of some sort as PSA usually is a bang for your buck company, They have come a long ways over the last 4-5 years in my opinion, even starting their own ammo manufacturing company and have made a few cool guns of their own...