It really annoys me when they invent all of these excuses and reasons why they joined LIV. The only reason is money and for what it is worth, I get it. No need to be embarrassed. If someone is stupid enough to throw that much money at you for doing an easier job, I get why you would take it. Stop with all of the nonsense reasons, we are not daft.
The problem is all of the excuses that have been made! Just fess up and don't try to say it is for the good of the game, or be with family or to travel more. It is greed, pure and simple.
@@ericzellershow I am all for a free, open and capitalist society, with genuine competition. What LIV is to me, is not competition, it is simply paying as much money as possible to crush an institution that has grown the game, has been given millions to charity and local communities and has nurtured up and coming pros over decades. For the guys getting bought out to play LIV to sue or claim they should still get to play on the PGA Tour, after turning their back on them is really a new low. I have never tried to go back to an old job that I ever had, at least not yet, but to me, that is what some of these guys are trying to do.
@@bogeyjr.1365 independent contractors who have to pay their own expenses wanting to play in the FedEx Cup as they earned spots in the FedEx Cup due to their play during the 2022 season.
I used to be a PGA Apprentice, and I think this is the best thing for GOLF. The PGA was so stuck up with there monopoly, they had forgotten where they came from. The PGA was founded by hard working golf employees and not elitists. Today the people who run the PGA are a bunch of elitists.
Also, those who actually work at golf courses (grounds crew) around the country, are some of the worst paid in the country. PGA should offer some incentives or a union for those who make it all happen.
Good points. I use NASCAR as an analogy. They left the smaller tracks that helped build the sport to cookie cutter bigger tracks, and years later NASCAR has lost a tremendous amount of followers. The PGA has left many courses that helped them grow. Sure some have been affected by the ball going farther, but that could have been addressed years ago. Jack Nicklaus said as much years ago. I’m happy that LIV has come along.
@@daniellarsen889 A union is not necessary, required, or needed. That will make it even worse. They are hard working people, no doubt. However, just as I feel about the teachers that complain (and they do have a union) about the lack of income - they choose that profession, they know the pay scale, and they DO have a choice.
@@glancegha1733 My argument is that competition is good. Monopoly is bad. Just because it is like this now, does not mean it will always be that way. More golf is better. More kids that get into golf the better. Golf is the only sport where you are taught, that you are responsible for calling penalties on yourself.
Guaranteed money is what he meant, just like the other pro sports. PGA doesn’t pay all participants.. sponsors do.. if you win or are marketable. Is it better golf??? No. But I don’t watch golf on tv anymore, it’s boring AF and I’m not paying for cable ever again. I prefer playing… but when I can’t play.. I like watching GoodGood and Bob Does Sports on TH-cam… the pga is going to be left in the dust unless they adapt.
💯 $10M-$50M will sway most players to switch to LIV. Bryson was making money on the PGA tour, but LIV just offered more money than he would make in a single season on the PGA tour
The fed ex and race to dubai money were seen as exhorbitant prize money but that faded over time. They are well paid but who cares? Take it while you can, one crash or your ex wife attacking you when you fall asleep and that could be your playing days over.
@@mickclarke5741 I sure would, but I wouldn't then sue my old employer to still be able to work for them! Or claim, I wanted to sit with my mom and talk knitting all day, like it sounded like a lot of these guys wanted to do. Just be honest with us and we'll give them a pass, that it is ONLY about the the money.
In the sixties there was a split in tennis. Those who turned professional couldn’t play in the grand slams and other majors. After about four years it all changed and they all came together to give us the competition we have now. Golf may go through the same but Bryson is correct in that it’ll all be sorted out, but may take a few years.
What? You have no idea what you're talking about. Yes they could! You're referring to WCT and what was the precursor to ATP tour. There were effectviely 2 tours yes, but all players could play the Slams
it happens in every sport at some point , people think one company owns each sport lol its not how it works. Until someone bigger comes along and they blow up lol its happen in cricket its happen in soccer every sport its happen at some point.
I'm not a golfer. I love watching golf. Its the only sport I enjoy watching. As a "fan", I do not understand the confusion surrounding players that leave and go to LIV. Why can't the PGA have player contracts like other athletes? Organizations like the PGA made these golf stars. Why should they get all the exposure, growth and top level competition to hone their skills and become Household names enabeling them to earn millions in advertising endorsements and then just walk away? I think they should be under contract. I have no interest in watching a golfer, becoming a fan and supporting that player young and coming up, knowing they will just walk off the green when as soon as an organization with millions decides he's ripe for the picking. I'm watching the FedEx St. jude championship and I don't recognize 1/2 the names! I see Justin Thomas, Finau and Fowler playing and their tem mates are gone. As a fan, its obvious none of them gave a crap about the organization that made them, their fans, or their team mates. Why should we care about you. No returns allowed.
@@rosiefrederick6403 The PGA Tour can't have contracts because they are set up as a tax exempt league to promote golf to avoid paying their fair share of taxes.
LIV tour is paying golfers what the best in the world should be paid. Bryson made the brave choice of risking his rep to advance the game. Let’s recognize that and respect that. Exciting!!
Yep even when it’s from the people who knocked down ur towers I’m gonna give you all a peak into Saudi Arabia right now in the palace they are walking around laughing there asses off. All it took was money and America forgets about Sept 11 and the folks who did it lol . Allahu Akbar the power of the dollar.
I've never understood the Bryson haters. He is always so positive and seems genuinely friendly and likeable. The innovative things he's doing as far as his swing and his equipment are interesting in the very least. The old guard at the PGA needed their cages rattled, and I'm glad these guys are doing it. The smear campaign by the PGA executives, players, and all their sycophants has really exposed the type of people they are.
I think he overplays his “innovation”. Tiger started the distance craze, not Bryson. One length is stupid and he didn’t invent it. Totally agree with you about how disgusting this smear campaign against LIV and it’s players is.
@@MrMatthew262 I mean bryson is doing everything in his golf game for himself, yes he did not start the distance craze but he’s innovating it, yes he did not invent one length clubs but he’s the only player on tour doing it now
@@RobertTarmac so by your admission Bryson isn’t innovating by trying to hit it further. Never heard of a course trying to “Bryson proof” it but have heard of another…
Bryce don’t be fooled is all about Bryson. He tries to tell seasoned/successful veteran golfers how to play. He doesn’t like that same iinput in return. Bye Felicia.
I like both leagues. However since I stream everything now, it is nice to watch LIV on youtube for free instead of having to subscribe to other services. I expect that will change in the future. but for now I think its kind of cool.
If they are successful, it will of course change. They will also need to generate far more money than the PGA as they are spending more. Just like football in the UK, they try to share the coverage between more entities whilst they keep their prices the same. In effect, they sell you less for the same price and in turn expect you to pay someone else more for what they have taken away.
Anyone who says that this league is ruining the Spirit of golf has not been out to a public golf course in the last couple years. I go on golf trips every year at a golf 2 to 3 times a week. It’s full of normal every day people who have speakers and are playing music, having a drink, and just having a good time. If that’s ruining Golf then I’m all for it.
The most amazing thing is that the PGA Tour has suddenly increased the prize money on offer for their tournaments. Another aspect is that Saudi money is also extensively involved in the English Premier League, and NOTHING is being said.
The Saudi Investment Fund is a majority part owner in a single football club in a league of 20 clubs....hardly ''extensively involved'' in the English Premier League...
2 clubs in the Premier League. That works out as 10%. Hard extensive is it. Also the League itself is not backed by saudi gov. Obviously PGA are going to increase their prizes, it's a defence mechanism.
The Saudis have stakes in Starbucks, Bank of America, Berkshire Hathaway, Qualcomm and Uber. So if anyone in the US or anywhere else, have supported any of those companies, you are directly involved, as much as the LIV golfers are!
"The most amazing thing is that the PGA Tour has suddenly increased the prize money on offer for their tournaments." As the commentator says on the infomercials, "Isn't that amazing?" It simply makes me wonder how many $$$s the Tour is sitting on in investments instead of sharing it with the membership.
young man on TV that carrys himself like a man, who admits he has been blessed, and he will go far as he continues behaving like a man, we are pulling for you dude
@@loriebolton980what a stupid response! 😂 whether right or wrong I do not believe the commenter is a pro golfer and for all you know could be quite successful in their career. They were speaking in comparison to other pro golfers obviously.
LIV Tour was designed to coexist with the PGA Tour and other tours. But PGAT wanted to retain their monopoly. So they have done everything a monopoly can do to take down a competitor. But monopolies are full of bureaucrats and they can't compete with new AND BETTER ideas and they can't compete with proven champions and savvy businessmen like Norman and Phil Mickelson. The better product will prevail and LIV is the better product.
How is LIV golf a better product? Be specific. It is a watered down product with fading has been stars, who get paid just to show up and play a tournament that is run like a corporate golf outing. We all know you just think LIV Golf is a good idea because your a Trumptard and as such what him to get back at the "disloyal" PGA Tour.
It wasn't about retaining a monopoly. The PGA Tour is protecting their sponsors who have invested in them and the players. You should first seek to understand before making a comment based solely on the talking points. Greg Norman stated free agency for golf. The LIV players sign contracts to play. Now they are employees of LIV required to play their events. No exceptions
@@industrialpalletworx3548 'The PGA Tour is protecting their sponsors who have invested in them and the players' Oh you mean the 23 PGA tour sponsors who make a combined $40+ billion of revenue each year from Saudi Arabia? 🤣 You should first seek to understand before making a comment based solely on the talking points 🤡
@@SiLoMixMaster you should take your own advice instead of regurgitating the same talking points of Greg Norman. Just because he says it doesn't make it factually true. Here's your sign....
The fact that anyone could object is silly. No matter why it started or he left the PGA. Whether for money, love of the game or bettering himself, all are valid reasons, but he doesn’t need to explain himself. Do what you want. If I wanna quit my job and make more money or be closer to home by going somewhere else, would you be mad? No difference
No one is mad at them leaving. Players on the PGA Tour have said as much. What they are mad at is these LIV players wanting to come back and play the PGA Tour whenever they feel like it. You can't have it both ways. The LIV players made their bed now go sleep in it.
@@rgetso well unfortunately for you it's probably not going to happen. You see the PGA Tours' bylaws state no release for any north America tournaments. It also states only 3 releases per year. The players have to sign a membership contract to abide by the tours rules. These rules are made by the players. The LIV players broke the rules after they were warned. So go play the LIV tour all you want, but don't bother coming back here, you're not welcome. It's plain and simple. By Bryson, have fun with your exhibitions. The 4 majors are governed by their own respective associations. LIV is probably not going to get world ranking points, because their events are 54 holes. They will need to be 72 hole events to count according to the world ranking points organization. The top 50 get into the majors.
@@boblester8641 they are not banned from any of the majors as those are different governing bodies. They would still have to qualify and without getting world ranking points it's going to be more difficult for them.
If the PGA bans Liv players. Won't they be violating the contracts of those that have won PGA tournaments, and received exemption as part of their winnings?
No contracts applied here. The only events they can play are 'Opens'. Any regular events, which most skip anyway, the player is banned from playing. In my opinion, they can go...
@@jonburrows8602 they are not employed by the PGA. No contracts. They can walk away and never be in any violation. How can Sergio go from tour to tour then? Paidraig and Darren?
If you win a major championship you get a lifetime exemption into that major. The PGA tries to ban the players from the majors but they can because they don’t have jurisdiction
Correct - had PGA even been willing to let the players own their own likenesses (for EA Sports etc) - but oh no; they had to control it all - including paying bureaucracy great salaries etc (while 'pro's' who were at the bottom of that years performance were earning peanuts despite being part of the 'entertainment'). Players want more financial security - more flexibility in terms of number of games paid - and didn't want to have to kiss the 'ring' and say thank you to the overlords every time they were given permission to go take a pee.
The PGA Tour does over $1 billion in annual revenue and makes over $200 million in profit and their executive board members each make over $1 million/year in base salary, yet the PGA Tour uses a loophole in the US tax code that allows them to declare non-profit status, and pay no taxes.
It's all about the money. End of story. End of argument. End of these interviews on "why did you join the LIV Tour?" It's real simple. Any other answer is just nonsense because it's a 54 hole exhibition every week on the LIV tour and anyone who thinks that is better for the game and more fun to watch also likes watching preseason football more than the regular season.
@@timdarnell7819 Tim, if you think it's better for the game then I won't argue with you but breaking up guys on to two different tours to me waters down the product. I want to see the best play the best every weekend and I also don't want to watch glorified exhibition golf like the LIV tour is putting on. When guys are already guaranteed the exorbitant amounts of money they are whether they finish first or last you can't convince me it's making for top quality play. More golf to me isn't what I want to see if it isn't top quality golf and the LIV product is garbage in my opinion.
@@timdarnell7819 the whole "monopoly" argument that keeps getting vomited out on these posts is absurd. The PGA is the top of the mountain in golf, just like the NFL, NBA and MLB are for their respective sports. That's why the best golfers in the world want to play on the PGA tour. LIV has gotten NO ONE who's in contention on a regular basis to switch leagues and LIV isn't even in the same universe as the PGA as far as growing the game goes. Enough with the monopoly nonsense.
PGA and LIV in current form should never be brought together. There is a lot of difference between them. The fundamentals in PGA are strong. They have training programme for boys and girls, they have junior championships for boys and girls. There is a selection procedure to join PGA tours. They are associated with USGA and R&A, with OWGR. The LIV does not have any of them. They just buy players from the market, similar to Slave Trade. It is always welcome to get new ideas. LIV should have consulted with USGA, R%A, and OWGR before they launched a 54 hole system with players bought from the market. They should have started Ladies tournament, juniors tournament. There should have been training schools for boys and girls. Money doesn't buy these things. But LIV could have used the Saudi Money in a much better way and could have commanded respect from the golf world.
To be honest I hope Saudi values will spread. I’m a traditionalist and like women being dominated. I think it’s the most natural way of life!!! Go Liv golf
Created your career on the PGA Tour and if you want to move on to a new company or new tour to play, good on you but move on just like a job. Enjoy your new job and place of work and let your old job go and allow that old company to keep going without you. While you start a new job with a new company and enjoy the pay raise. Congratulations and enjoy the new career Bryson. 🙏🏽
Why is Will Zalatoris - Davis Love III and the PGA Tour wanting to 'segregate' some players who chose to play LIV Golf.? This is getting disgusting and is flat out racist.
If the Pizza parlor was behind the killing of 2,977 people in my country, I would not do business at that shop. It wasn't about expanding and improving the game, it was about money.
not only have a life outside of golf but a satisfying life out side of it. Awesome sounds like he has great things planned for others along with himself. Love it.
LIV Golf will FAIL and FAIL BIGLY. first of all, it exist at the WHIM of the Saudi's who can walk away at any moment and not have to answer to anyone. Second, all the player are essentially say, I no longer want to compete for a living, I want show up money which is contrary to the entire history of golf. The only one that would thinks Tucker did a good interview here doesn't know $hit about golf, just like Tucker. BTW... Bryson is the kind who is his own best friend, because no one else likes him.
Bryson has been a lightning rod since his early days. From how he swings, to the clubs he helps design and the way he plays the game, anyone surprised by his decision to step away from the antiquated thinking of the PGA has not been paying attention. If the PGA is really what it thinks it is...the holder of the sacred cup, they would not need to threaten, retaliate or even respond to models like LIV and the others that will surface. Golf is an amazing game and deserves to grow into the forms that engage the most people. Despite it's growth, the fact that the PGA has held the sport hostage for so long is unfortunate. Golf cannot be compared to other mega pro sports like baseball or basketball. The economics and logistics make that impossible. However, it can be compared to other professional sports. Imagine if motor sports had followed a similar path where all professional races were controlled by a single group. The players making these decisions are doing the right thing for themselves and the rest of us duffers around the world.
It shouldn't be surprising that anyone would go and get all of that money, I'm not sure how much his signing bonus but I'm guessing it's 100 million or more
I don’t like when they make the excuse about PGA tour not having guaranteed money… it’s golf… you compete and earn your money. If you get last, you don’t deserve money.
You’re wrong. The pga makes billions off the player’s. Advertising them. If the player earns his pro card he deserve a payment for every tournament he inters (base salary).
I’ve played golf (not well) my entire life, in my fifties now. That said, I’ll still watch PGA tour events and LIV events. You play the course, not those that are in the same tournament. You’re trying to beat the course and possibly shoot the lowest score to win. I see nothing wrong with there being the PGA and LIV events.
Your read on this is off base. This isn't about playing the course, it's playing the money. These guys dreamed of playing on the PGA tour. Now they dream of the money. Blood money.
Perfect question from Tucker. Golf - the PGA version - has always been a hallmark of pure capitalism, pure meritocracy. If you don't literally "make the cut" the first two rounds, you go home actually losing money (you have to pay expenses for you and your caddie, including his salary). You only get a paycheck (and the resultant sponsors, hopefully) if you play well. Now the LIV is changing that. It's basically turned a boxing "prizefight" into a salaried UFC, with players following the orders of their bosses. Kudos to Tiger for apparently turning down about $730 M.
$730M was too low. If Tiger was CEO of LIV, then they would have a broadcast partner in a few weeks, more fans. People would show up just to see Tiger at the event and possibly tee off.
Wrong. Sponsorships already turned PGA golf into a "boxing prize fight". Except players just wear advertisements on their clothes for guaranteed money...including the opportunity to sit on their butts and play when they feel like it. The LIV Golf format has a team aspect where the up and coming stars are placed on teams with veterans. The veterans continue to play hard throughout the whole tournament to help their teammates get money for their families. LIV golfers don't get to sit out of tournaments. Their best 48 play every tournament and the shotgun start essentially adds pressure to every shot because the leaders can't really play it safe....and they all play the same weather conditions. If the top 48 golfers in the world played at LIV, then we would basically get to see a major championship for every event. Instead we get the PGA Maxi Pad Memorial where the top 20th golfer is the strongest in the field. Get real.
I think Tiger has been paid handsomely, like a few million extra per appearances in Dubai and other places on his personal global golf journeys. If he was 28 or 30 and healthy, he would have gone in a minute. This is not what it appears to be, similar to just about anything that we've seen since March 2020. Tiger can barely make it around the course these days, he is not going to fight against those who've helped him become the biggest name in Golf.
@@PowersFamily2011 Thank you. They also don’t talk about the time it actually takes to actual play tour golf. You barely get time to see your family. You barely get rest. Then they force players to play a certain number of events to qualify for the postseason. Even though you need to qualify on points. Who cares how many events you play if you have the right amount of points? The people at the top making the money. People bring up Tiger as if he wasn’t the first sporting billionaire and isn’t one now. Over 90 percent of his money was made off the course. Also conveniently people forget about “The Match” thats way more like a prize fight being 1v1 and on pay per view
Only woke and jackasses can ruin the integrity of Golf like it has done on other sports. Golf doesn't need people to grow the game, it's been great for 150 years and is played in 150 countries and is one of the greatest games in all of sports for the young and old.
Ever since LIV and PGA have been going at it, I instantly remember WWE vs WCW...and we saw how that turned out. I like the stir up it's put in the golf world as a consumer, and it will be fascinating to see if the same results occur from what happened to WCW.
@@MrFergusonLawn Yes, but the PGA Tour is absolute in it's commitment to competition, and upping that competition. LIV is like the WWE, offering more 'entertainment' and a different format. There are so many things I dislike about LIV, but setting aside all others, just the fact that the leaders are not coming down the 18th hole, that they are all playing a scramble-like format--is totally stupid.
@@wreckim ok, but they have a ton of talent now. Regardless, they have a product with top talent and money. They aren’t going anywhere. If anything, temptation for upcoming players and current players for more money less work is gonna be there.
Tucker is on a roll. His head was spinning when Bryson was talking about the technical stuff he has worked on. Bryson is so cool and a great golf ambassador.
You would have thought by going to SMU Bryson dechambeau would have been able to give a good reason why he went to live golf. Bryson in the interview toad Tucker that he went to make his family financially secure and he said would you have turned down the offer I got which was say at least a hundred million dollars so now he is financially set. We must understand that Bryson's contract is for 4 years and if you break it you have to pay back five times what your bonus was so Bryson would have to pay back 500 million dollars to get out of live golf. Bryson is now starting his second year with Liv golf he has three more years to play in the league to obtain the entire 100 million dollars so he's going to remain positive about Liv golf until his contract is up or their league fails. I am tired of hearing how long he hits the golf ball there are probably at least 10 members of the PGA who hit the ball as far as he does. Oh by the way since Bryson says he is so great how many Liv golf tournaments has she won how did he do in the Masters, l o u s e y. He was a big sensation when he was hitting it 330 yards off the tee John Rahm hits the ball that far now and has a better all-around game. Bryson you made your bed and now you're stuck in it for another 3 years you have to remain positive and speak positive about your league because you're under contract. This was a b******* interview. P. S h e a
If they are on tour, they are guaranteed income through sponsorships, how else was Phil Mickelson was able to lose $40 million gambling? I have no problem with people getting whatever they can, but at what point do they not sell their soul? His comparisons about the pizza shop, Tucker should have said "the new pizza shop didn't butcher people in my business though".
"I'm all about growth in the game of golf" .. I stopped after that line. Just man up and say you couldn't not take the money, nobody would care if they just say that. They're trying to make it seem like they're pioneers of some sort when they just took a pay most people would also take. Cheers Cryson.
The PGA has already changed the upcoming format. More players get paid and more money goes to the winners and top players. It’s still not at the level of LIV but they know it’s time to change. Personally I think the PGA will have to merge or accept the new LIV tour. Tiger only has a few years left and that is the biggest prize for anyone. Rory is good but not the draw of Tiger and as more young players go to LIV or even their version (I’m guessing that’s coming) of the “minor league” tour the pga will be begging for some sort of resolution. If the manufactures haven’t dropped the players who have gone to LIV and the players still get sponsor money what leverage does the pga have? TV rights? Nope. LIV is already looking at going to Australia and the pga never managed that so they better get some new leadership or they are doomed. In the end it’s good for the game to have new formats and more competition. Golf is a tough game to sell to kids and youngsters. It takes something special to take some kids away from tv or video games or even a pickup basketball game to go play for 4 hours or more and have to pay to play around rules and old school dress codes. Golf has to change things up!
Yes, I'm sure the PGA will have to start playing 3 round no-cut tournaments with less drama and less competition in order to 'compete'. BTW, no one seems to talk about the fact that LIV payed LIV players a huge bonus to join BECAUSE the PGA Tour threaten to ban them from their tour. If that hadn't happened, they would have just been playing for the tournament winnings. I'm all for LIV if they allow anyone to compete and get onboard. No way they will do that. They don't want talent, they want NAMES.
This all reminds me a lot of World Series Cricket back in the 70s. Those players were banned from international cricket. WSC introduced the limited overs or one-day format to cricket which was faster paced and, as the name implies, meant the game was over in 6 hours rather than 5 days. In the end it rejuvenated cricket and was incorporated into international cricket competition.
It’s not the same. The top cricketers at the time were struggling to make a living financially and some had second jobs. These golfers are mostly multi millionaires. . There are players on the pga tour who have never won anything but are multi millionaires.
@@nickhanlon9331 Ah, yes, I remember now, it was a while ago that I saw the documentary on World Series Cricket. Thanks for the correction. It did introduce the coloured clothes and day/night or floodlit cricket, right?
I disagree with this. I believe in every sport you want all the best employee in the same league. Golf has never been a team sport it’s always been an individual sport
I respectfully disagree as both High School and Collegiate golf is scored both as individual AND Team. LIV is the first attempt at professionals playing as individual and team outside of the Ryder Cup, President's Cup, and other such competition so the Team concept is not alien to pros.
@@grep67 Other, much better players than Bryson didn't, so why are you intimating everyone would. It's not as easy a decision as you're making it out to be. But, that's the problem these days, people feel they are entitled to comment even when they only have a rudimentary understanding of the subject matter.
I fully agree with allowing the competition of LIV golf and detest this coordinated effort to take it down, but Bryson isn’t nearly as smart as he thinks he is.
If anyone was offered the opportunity Bryson was offered you’d take it. With all that money from LIV he can do a lot of things he is passionate about. His TH-cam channel for example. Bryson is doing a lot for the game of golf, attracting a younger audience for one. He isn’t a sheep following the herd. Respect to Bryson.
@@FP194 All I ask is that he's honest. He's not dreaming of the OPPORTUNITY of playing in freaking Saudi Arabia. It's obviously the money. Why can't he just say that? (it's probably part of his contract).
He needs to rethink his pizza analogy...the pizza employees leaving the old place are getting banned, not the customers. Also, who says the new pizza place is better just because it spends a ton of money. We’ll see how much money LIV actually makes. Seems like a bad investment for the Saudis...money to burn apparently. At least some of the money is going to Americans though
Sounds good... only problem is if you watch LIV it's pretty boring. No cut... same guys every week. It's exhibition golf, NOT an open tournament. In the PGA events you have up to 200 pros competing on Thursday and Friday to get into the weekend part of the event. It's exciting to see them compete and every day is a different mindset.
PGA Tour is the same guys every week thanks to exemptions,they play on mundane resort courses which means it ends up as a putting contest which IS boring.
@@dart1806 You have a good point and I agree they need a restructuring. However so far LIV is extremely boring. Maybe it will improve and I hope it does. But purely from a spectator's point of view (mine) PGA events are far more entertaining.
@@christopherfranklin972 There is no format where putting isn't a huge part of the game. Par allocates 36 strokes per round for putting so you can't get away from that. But a big part of putting is approach shots, sand and chipping. If you don't like putting then golf is not the sport for you.
@@JackRainfield You not only missed my point entirely but also make false attributions,where exactly do I say I hate putting? You need to reply to what is actually written not what figures in your imagination. I have played the GAME of golf for over 50 years so am fully acquainted with the number of strokes allocated to putting.
Does the PGA own the golfers? Were the golfers drafted into the PGA? I don't care an iota anout golf, but the PGA seems to be making asses of themselves over this LIV issue. It is the old mentality of business, 'we won't adjust our model to compete, people love us as we are'. Will the PGA become KMART to LIV's Walmart? The decision is only up to the fans.
More money and less hours. Who wouldn't jump ship for that. Think about every person who left a job for better money, benefits, hours, or quality of life. I've known people who took a job for less money just to have better quality of life. With LIV, they get it all including the money. A part of me asks where is their loyalty and partriotism. After all, LIV is backed by the Saudia Arabia government. They have been one of our allies in that region but can hardly be trusted. But if you look at the rules and the way the tournaments are structured with payouts, I think it would be hard for any player to turn it down. And if all the best players join the LIV, that's less competition for Tiger Woods and maybe he will win another few majors and eventually beat Jack Nicklaus' record. Doubtful, but possible. With Tiger's best golfing days behind him and his limited schedule, I'm surprised he didn't jump ship other than he is still chasing Jack's record on the PGA.
The players in liv are not the best. Besides dechambeu, there are no young players. Look at how these guys did in majors. They act like it’s not about the money, which irritates me. They lie rather than saying it’s about money. They are no different than Lebron James supporting China. Just because the NBA supports corrupt governments doesn’t make it ok for these guys to do the same.
Even if you don't agree with it, I think he brings up valid points. I agree with him that in the end there will be a blend and the tours will learn from each other and coexist.
He’s so full of himself it’s hilarious, everything he said was planned and written for him, he’s not a good person and if you ever follow him in the course one day you’ll see what I mean. There’s a reason he’s the most hated man on the tour and if you really wanted the opinion of LIV you should of interviewed someone with credibility
I mean it’s an interview of him, of course it will be all about him and his opinions, he’s a great player and gets a ton of hate, billy horchsel is way worse than bryson.
PGA looks a bit like the Masters excluding black players from the field back in the day... or Muirfield excluding female members. Not for the racial implications, but just in the retrospective perception of how close-minded, exclusive, and uncompromising they appear in the face of a changing landscape. It will be a blemish in time for the PGA.
What did they have before the PGA? Monopolies are illegal for one and everyone has a right to compete including organizations period. NFL and NBA weren't always just one organization.
Most LIV critics are hypocrites. They have no problems with NBAs heavy ties and investments with China, or with multiple arabic countries' investments in the english premier league. This is all about money, from all sides: the PGA, LIV and the players.
Actually you Fox News /Trump culties are the hypocrites. The Saudi royal family are much bigger killers than the average Chinese company. Both are wrong and you should criticise both, don't put your stupid Trump cult identity before basic principles.
Providing opportunity? It provides opportunities only for the select few that were offered huge amounts to play there in the first place! How is buying your entire field growing the game?
2:31, I play Hickory shafted clubs and find it quite enjoyable, interesting and challenging. Today everyone wants to hit it 300 yards and spin them back on the greens.
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It really annoys me when they invent all of these excuses and reasons why they joined LIV. The only reason is money and for what it is worth, I get it. No need to be embarrassed. If someone is stupid enough to throw that much money at you for doing an easier job, I get why you would take it. Stop with all of the nonsense reasons, we are not daft.
When you switch jobs to get more pay, do people ask you why you switched jobs? Or do they assume you got a better paying gig?
The problem is all of the excuses that have been made! Just fess up and don't try to say it is for the good of the game, or be with family or to travel more. It is greed, pure and simple.
@@bogeyjr.1365 do you free up when you switch jobs? Or do you say the usual as well : “I’m looking for new challenges”.
@@ericzellershow I am all for a free, open and capitalist society, with genuine competition. What LIV is to me, is not competition, it is simply paying as much money as possible to crush an institution that has grown the game, has been given millions to charity and local communities and has nurtured up and coming pros over decades. For the guys getting bought out to play LIV to sue or claim they should still get to play on the PGA Tour, after turning their back on them is really a new low. I have never tried to go back to an old job that I ever had, at least not yet, but to me, that is what some of these guys are trying to do.
@@bogeyjr.1365 independent contractors who have to pay their own expenses wanting to play in the FedEx Cup as they earned spots in the FedEx Cup due to their play during the 2022 season.
Tucker using the interview as an opportunity for a private golf lesson.🤣👍
Lol...&
Tucker said, "I fish and hunt." Not gonna get much help for his golf game by listening to what Bryson is doing in his swing. Lol.
@@karlready7610 he’s hunting for intellect and fishing for a compliment from the orange conman.
@@greggarsenault4457 he’s smarter than you. Go back to your alphabet teachers gender studies class.
Good for him ..
I used to be a PGA Apprentice, and I think this is the best thing for GOLF. The PGA was so stuck up with there monopoly, they had forgotten where they came from. The PGA was founded by hard working golf employees and not elitists. Today the people who run the PGA are a bunch of elitists.
Also, those who actually work at golf courses (grounds crew) around the country, are some of the worst paid in the country. PGA should offer some incentives or a union for those who make it all happen.
Good points. I use NASCAR as an analogy. They left the smaller tracks that helped build the sport to cookie cutter bigger tracks, and years later NASCAR has lost a tremendous amount of followers. The PGA has left many courses that helped them grow. Sure some have been affected by the ball going farther, but that could have been addressed years ago. Jack Nicklaus said as much years ago. I’m happy that LIV has come along.
@@daniellarsen889 A union is not necessary, required, or needed. That will make it even worse. They are hard working people, no doubt. However, just as I feel about the teachers that complain (and they do have a union) about the lack of income - they choose that profession, they know the pay scale, and they DO have a choice.
Hmmm. So the PGA tour is for elitists and the LIV tour is good… sorry the LIV tour only want the elite golfers. Not sure I understand your argument
@@glancegha1733 My argument is that competition is good. Monopoly is bad. Just because it is like this now, does not mean it will always be that way. More golf is better. More kids that get into golf the better. Golf is the only sport where you are taught, that you are responsible for calling penalties on yourself.
Guaranteed money is what he meant, just like the other pro sports. PGA doesn’t pay all participants.. sponsors do.. if you win or are marketable. Is it better golf??? No. But I don’t watch golf on tv anymore, it’s boring AF and I’m not paying for cable ever again. I prefer playing… but when I can’t play.. I like watching GoodGood and Bob Does Sports on TH-cam… the pga is going to be left in the dust unless they adapt.
💯 $10M-$50M will sway most players to switch to LIV. Bryson was making money on the PGA tour, but LIV just offered more money than he would make in a single season on the PGA tour
@@alberttate8198 Maybe more than he could visualize making in 20 years on the PGA Tour!
Kind of a missing component here which is who is directly paying them. They've literally made a deal with the devil.
Bryson has some good TH-cam content also.
@@gdobservation Just like the NBA, but nobody says a word about the money they get from the Chinese government.
Why do people criticize golfers for associating with the Saudis yet I see the prez fist bumping with the same regime?
or that the largest LPGA Sponsor is Aramco a.k.a. Saudi Oil Company..... Don't seem to hear this in the news much do ya?
Excellent point.
Something different is a lot more money. If the money wasn’t insanely higher, they would not be joining.
Would you swap your exact same job for twice the wage?
@@mickclarke5741 More like 20 times the wage
The fed ex and race to dubai money were seen as exhorbitant prize money but that faded over time. They are well paid but who cares? Take it while you can, one crash or your ex wife attacking you when you fall asleep and that could be your playing days over.
Just a statement of fact
@@mickclarke5741 I sure would, but I wouldn't then sue my old employer to still be able to work for them! Or claim, I wanted to sit with my mom and talk knitting all day, like it sounded like a lot of these guys wanted to do. Just be honest with us and we'll give them a pass, that it is ONLY about the the money.
In the sixties there was a split in tennis.
Those who turned professional couldn’t play in the grand slams and other majors.
After about four years it all changed and they all came together to give us the competition we have now.
Golf may go through the same but Bryson is correct in that it’ll all be sorted out, but may take a few years.
What? You have no idea what you're talking about. Yes they could! You're referring to WCT and what was the precursor to ATP tour. There were effectviely 2 tours yes, but all players could play the Slams
it happens in every sport at some point , people think one company owns each sport lol its not how it works. Until someone bigger comes along and they blow up lol its happen in cricket its happen in soccer every sport its happen at some point.
@@adriankelly350 LIV is apparently adding Cameron Smith and Cameron Young. It’s going to be the tour with more talent.
I'm not a golfer. I love watching golf. Its the only sport I enjoy watching. As a "fan", I do not understand the confusion surrounding players that leave and go to LIV. Why can't the PGA have player contracts like other athletes? Organizations like the PGA made these golf stars. Why should they get all the exposure, growth and top level competition to hone their skills and become
Household names enabeling them to earn millions in advertising endorsements and then just walk away? I think they should be under contract. I have no interest in watching a golfer, becoming a fan and supporting that player young and coming up, knowing they will just walk off the green when as soon as an organization with millions decides he's ripe for the picking.
I'm watching the FedEx St. jude championship and I don't recognize 1/2 the names! I see Justin Thomas, Finau and Fowler playing and their tem mates are gone. As a fan, its obvious none of them gave a crap about the organization that made them, their fans, or their team mates. Why should we care about you. No returns allowed.
@@rosiefrederick6403 The PGA Tour can't have contracts because they are set up as a tax exempt league to promote golf to avoid paying their fair share of taxes.
LIV tour is paying golfers what the best in the world should be paid. Bryson made the brave choice of risking his rep to advance the game. Let’s recognize that and respect that. Exciting!!
Money talks, that's all there is to it.
Game doesn’t matter, he’s loving his foreign sugar daddys
Yeah he’s making crazy excuses
Especially that Saudi Arabia money
Yep even when it’s from the people who knocked down ur towers I’m gonna give you all a peak into Saudi Arabia right now in the palace they are walking around laughing there asses off.
All it took was money and America forgets about Sept 11 and the folks who did it lol .
Allahu Akbar the power of the dollar.
The PGA makes billions and their prize money is atrocious, old men making a fortune off the backs off the players.
I've never understood the Bryson haters. He is always so positive and seems genuinely friendly and likeable. The innovative things he's doing as far as his swing and his equipment are interesting in the very least. The old guard at the PGA needed their cages rattled, and I'm glad these guys are doing it. The smear campaign by the PGA executives, players, and all their sycophants has really exposed the type of people they are.
I think he overplays his “innovation”. Tiger started the distance craze, not Bryson. One length is stupid and he didn’t invent it. Totally agree with you about how disgusting this smear campaign against LIV and it’s players is.
And incredibly intelligent. I'm guilty of thinking he was a mouth-breathing gearhead.... very clearly could not have been more incorrect!
@@MrMatthew262 I mean bryson is doing everything in his golf game for himself, yes he did not start the distance craze but he’s innovating it, yes he did not invent one length clubs but he’s the only player on tour doing it now
@@RobertTarmac so by your admission Bryson isn’t innovating by trying to hit it further. Never heard of a course trying to “Bryson proof” it but have heard of another…
Bryce don’t be fooled is all about Bryson. He tries to tell seasoned/successful veteran golfers how to play. He doesn’t like that same iinput in return. Bye Felicia.
I like both leagues. However since I stream everything now, it is nice to watch LIV on youtube for free instead of having to subscribe to other services. I expect that will change in the future. but for now I think its kind of cool.
It's nice to watch a sporting event without 5 minutes of commercials every 10 minutes.
TH-cam streaming is huge!
If they are successful, it will of course change. They will also need to generate far more money than the PGA as they are spending more. Just like football in the UK, they try to share the coverage between more entities whilst they keep their prices the same. In effect, they sell you less for the same price and in turn expect you to pay someone else more for what they have taken away.
Anyone who says that this league is ruining the Spirit of golf has not been out to a public golf course in the last couple years. I go on golf trips every year at a golf 2 to 3 times a week. It’s full of normal every day people who have speakers and are playing music, having a drink, and just having a good time. If that’s ruining Golf then I’m all for it.
God bless Bryson.. a true old school American man. The type which made your country great… from an Englishman
Anyone else here after Pinehurst ‘24? Bryson is a class act. It’s cool to see that he’s stayed the course and kept his moral compass
You can only ignore an event like the Phoenix Open for so long before you realize you are not capitalizing on fan involvement.
The most amazing thing is that the PGA Tour has suddenly increased the prize money on offer for their tournaments.
Another aspect is that Saudi money is also extensively involved in the English Premier League, and NOTHING is being said.
The Saudi Investment Fund is a majority part owner in a single football club in a league of 20 clubs....hardly ''extensively involved'' in the English Premier League...
2 clubs in the Premier League. That works out as 10%. Hard extensive is it. Also the League itself is not backed by saudi gov. Obviously PGA are going to increase their prizes, it's a defence mechanism.
Not to mention long-time Saudi involvement in thoroughbred racing Example: Triple Crown winner Justify.
The Saudis have stakes in Starbucks, Bank of America, Berkshire Hathaway, Qualcomm and Uber. So if anyone in the US or anywhere else, have supported any of those companies, you are directly involved, as much as the LIV golfers are!
"The most amazing thing is that the PGA Tour has suddenly increased the prize money on offer for their tournaments." As the commentator says on the infomercials, "Isn't that amazing?" It simply makes me wonder how many $$$s the Tour is sitting on in investments instead of sharing it with the membership.
young man on TV that carrys himself like a man, who admits he has been blessed, and he will go far as he continues behaving like a man, we are pulling for you dude
Bryson is dead in the water.The worst decision he ever made since beefing himself up.He has the longevity of a mayfly.
Funny I don't see you on TV. He's still kicking!
@@loriebolton980what a stupid response! 😂 whether right or wrong I do not believe the commenter is a pro golfer and for all you know could be quite successful in their career. They were speaking in comparison to other pro golfers obviously.
PGA is just mad that another organization is giving players better benefits.
LIV Tour was designed to coexist with the PGA Tour and other tours. But PGAT wanted to retain their monopoly. So they have done everything a monopoly can do to take down a competitor. But monopolies are full of bureaucrats and they can't compete with new AND BETTER ideas and they can't compete with proven champions and savvy businessmen like Norman and Phil Mickelson. The better product will prevail and LIV is the better product.
How is LIV golf a better product? Be specific. It is a watered down product with fading has been stars, who get paid just to show up and play a tournament that is run like a corporate golf outing. We all know you just think LIV Golf is a good idea because your a Trumptard and as such what him to get back at the "disloyal" PGA Tour.
It wasn't about retaining a monopoly. The PGA Tour is protecting their sponsors who have invested in them and the players. You should first seek to understand before making a comment based solely on the talking points. Greg Norman stated free agency for golf. The LIV players sign contracts to play. Now they are employees of LIV required to play their events. No exceptions
@@industrialpalletworx3548 "protecting their sponsors" BY RETAINING THEIR MONOPOLY you dimwit.
@@industrialpalletworx3548 'The PGA Tour is protecting their sponsors who have invested in them and the players'
Oh you mean the 23 PGA tour sponsors who make a combined $40+ billion of revenue each year from Saudi Arabia? 🤣 You should first seek to understand before making a comment based solely on the talking points 🤡
@@SiLoMixMaster you should take your own advice instead of regurgitating the same talking points of Greg Norman. Just because he says it doesn't make it factually true.
Here's your sign....
The fact that anyone could object is silly. No matter why it started or he left the PGA. Whether for money, love of the game or bettering himself, all are valid reasons, but he doesn’t need to explain himself. Do what you want. If I wanna quit my job and make more money or be closer to home by going somewhere else, would you be mad? No difference
No one is mad at them leaving. Players on the PGA Tour have said as much. What they are mad at is these LIV players wanting to come back and play the PGA Tour whenever they feel like it. You can't have it both ways. The LIV players made their bed now go sleep in it.
@@industrialpalletworx3548 And I hope the PGA tour loses in court. Bryson et al are concerned about being excluded from the majors.
@@rgetso well unfortunately for you it's probably not going to happen. You see the PGA Tours' bylaws state no release for any north America tournaments. It also states only 3 releases per year. The players have to sign a membership contract to abide by the tours rules. These rules are made by the players. The LIV players broke the rules after they were warned. So go play the LIV tour all you want, but don't bother coming back here, you're not welcome. It's plain and simple. By Bryson, have fun with your exhibitions. The 4 majors are governed by their own respective associations. LIV is probably not going to get world ranking points, because their events are 54 holes. They will need to be 72 hole events to count according to the world ranking points organization. The top 50 get into the majors.
Are the LIV golfers banned by the USGA if not they can play in the US Open
@@boblester8641 they are not banned from any of the majors as those are different governing bodies. They would still have to qualify and without getting world ranking points it's going to be more difficult for them.
Terrible analogy with the pizza shops but I actually just ordered a pie
If the PGA bans Liv players. Won't they be violating the contracts of those that have won PGA tournaments, and received exemption as part of their winnings?
No contracts applied here. The only events they can play are 'Opens'. Any regular events, which most skip anyway, the player is banned from playing. In my opinion, they can go...
No, because those players violated the conditions of their contracts with the PGA Tour.
@@jonburrows8602 they are not employed by the PGA. No contracts. They can walk away and never be in any violation. How can Sergio go from tour to tour then? Paidraig and Darren?
If you win a major championship you get a lifetime exemption into that major. The PGA tries to ban the players from the majors but they can because they don’t have jurisdiction
@@darthrage2464
You do know the LPGA is sponsored by a Saudi company right ?
Honestly I'm glad he left the Pga Tour - he never got the respect he deserved
Scru PGA. They're just whining bc they don't like the competition and they know they're going to lose money
Correct - had PGA even been willing to let the players own their own likenesses (for EA Sports etc) - but oh no; they had to control it all - including paying bureaucracy great salaries etc (while 'pro's' who were at the bottom of that years performance were earning peanuts despite being part of the 'entertainment'). Players want more financial security - more flexibility in terms of number of games paid - and didn't want to have to kiss the 'ring' and say thank you to the overlords every time they were given permission to go take a pee.
@@granthuxham2491 That's a great point about EA sports and the players image rights, not really seen anyone else bring that up yet.
The PGA Tour does over $1 billion in annual revenue and makes over $200 million in profit and their executive board members each make over $1 million/year in base salary, yet the PGA Tour uses a loophole in the US tax code that allows them to declare non-profit status, and pay no taxes.
It's all about the money. End of story. End of argument. End of these interviews on "why did you join the LIV Tour?" It's real simple. Any other answer is just nonsense because it's a 54 hole exhibition every week on the LIV tour and anyone who thinks that is better for the game and more fun to watch also likes watching preseason football more than the regular season.
Well.......I hope you're right on one thing........maybe it will become a 54 hole exhibition every week!!!
How is it not better for the game? It forces the PGA tour out of it's monopoly and provides more golf.
@@timdarnell7819 Tim, if you think it's better for the game then I won't argue with you but breaking up guys on to two different tours to me waters down the product. I want to see the best play the best every weekend and I also don't want to watch glorified exhibition golf like the LIV tour is putting on. When guys are already guaranteed the exorbitant amounts of money they are whether they finish first or last you can't convince me it's making for top quality play. More golf to me isn't what I want to see if it isn't top quality golf and the LIV product is garbage in my opinion.
@@timdarnell7819 the whole "monopoly" argument that keeps getting vomited out on these posts is absurd. The PGA is the top of the mountain in golf, just like the NFL, NBA and MLB are for their respective sports. That's why the best golfers in the world want to play on the PGA tour. LIV has gotten NO ONE who's in contention on a regular basis to switch leagues and LIV isn't even in the same universe as the PGA as far as growing the game goes. Enough with the monopoly nonsense.
The only ones who are outspoken about players leaving the PGA for LIV are ones who stand to earn more money continuing to play in the PGA
Follow the money!!! Bottom line, money.
So
@@seadonkey6913 So don't pretend you're there to 'grow the game'. What BS.
@@MSDOGS1976 so?
@@seadonkey6913 Honesty. Apparently not important to you.
@@MSDOGS1976 stay mad kid.
PGA and LIV in current form should never be brought together.
There is a lot of difference between them.
The fundamentals in PGA are strong. They have training programme for boys and girls, they have junior championships for boys and girls. There is a selection procedure to join PGA tours. They are associated with USGA and R&A, with OWGR.
The LIV does not have any of them. They just buy players from the market, similar to Slave Trade.
It is always welcome to get new ideas. LIV should have consulted with USGA, R%A, and OWGR before they launched a 54 hole system with players bought from the market. They should have started Ladies tournament, juniors tournament. There should have been training schools for boys and girls.
Money doesn't buy these things. But LIV could have used the Saudi Money in a much better way and could have commanded respect from the golf world.
Liv golf is America in a nutshell: take what you can, give nothing back.
Huh
You jealous fool. The world suckles on the teats of America.
Bryson is so intelligent and articulate,a great ambassador for LIV and golf generally.
You can't be serious.
@@kinjunranger140 😂 right?
@@kinjunranger140 isn’t he a scientist?
To be honest I hope Saudi values will spread. I’m a traditionalist and like women being dominated. I think it’s the most natural way of life!!! Go Liv golf
Fox News picking up this story makes me think Fox may be the network with enough stones to make a TV deal with LIV.
Yup.. its very likely to happen..cbs, nbc, golf channel should worry..
What was the deal with the PGA of America and Nicklaus and Palmer and then the PGA in the early 50's?
LETS GO BRANDON!!!
@Pooh Bearlove when he blurts out "my butts been wiped!"
@@ashes2ashes863 👍👍👍 That’s exactly what I said in a comment a couple of days ago on another channel!!! 😂😂😂
“Let’s go Brandon, I agree.” 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Ivana buried on a golf course, how disrespectful.
Grow a brain moron
PGA is sitting on $24B
This interview has changed my perspective on who Bryson is.
same, but not in a good way!
@@markgilbert3911 I’m sure he doesn’t lose any sleep over it
@@markgilbert3911 why?
@@markgilbert3911 Jealousy?
You should sub to his YT channel. Really good stuff.
Created your career on the PGA Tour and if you want to move on to a new company or new tour to play, good on you but move on just like a job. Enjoy your new job and place of work and let your old job go and allow that old company to keep going without you. While you start a new job with a new company and enjoy the pay raise. Congratulations and enjoy the new career Bryson. 🙏🏽
"I got paid a butt load of money" is the only correct answer. LIV is a high paid intramural
LIV Golf is exhibition golf.
Go give it a shot, then.
Fill my bank account. It makes golf more interesting and innovative?
Love and support for Tucker Carlson from Russia 🇺🇲🇷🇺
Shill
Thank you comrade, hopefully we will also be a oppressive dictatorship state like yours
@@m4v3ric_za nothing is worse than democrats lefties ruling.
@@coldstonestunners Why?
@@m4v3ric_za , it’s looking that way from the last 18 months.
Why is Will Zalatoris - Davis Love III and the PGA Tour wanting to 'segregate' some players who chose to play LIV Golf.? This is getting disgusting and is flat out racist.
When the dust settles, IMO, Zalatoris, Love II, and others will have many apologies to make to the LIV players.
Go Bryson!
Excellent piece, many thanx Tucker 👍👍
If the Pizza parlor was behind the killing of 2,977 people in my country, I would not do business at that shop. It wasn't about expanding and improving the game, it was about money.
not only have a life outside of golf but a satisfying life out side of it. Awesome sounds like he has great things planned for others along with himself. Love it.
LIV Golf will FAIL and FAIL BIGLY. first of all, it exist at the WHIM of the Saudi's who can walk away at any moment and not have to answer to anyone. Second, all the player are essentially say, I no longer want to compete for a living, I want show up money which is contrary to the entire history of golf. The only one that would thinks Tucker did a good interview here doesn't know $hit about golf, just like Tucker. BTW... Bryson is the kind who is his own best friend, because no one else likes him.
@@jbarton1541 😂😂😂🤡🤡
I’m now hungry for pizza.
Bryson has been a lightning rod since his early days. From how he swings, to the clubs he helps design and the way he plays the game, anyone surprised by his decision to step away from the antiquated thinking of the PGA has not been paying attention. If the PGA is really what it thinks it is...the holder of the sacred cup, they would not need to threaten, retaliate or even respond to models like LIV and the others that will surface. Golf is an amazing game and deserves to grow into the forms that engage the most people. Despite it's growth, the fact that the PGA has held the sport hostage for so long is unfortunate. Golf cannot be compared to other mega pro sports like baseball or basketball. The economics and logistics make that impossible. However, it can be compared to other professional sports. Imagine if motor sports had followed a similar path where all professional races were controlled by a single group. The players making these decisions are doing the right thing for themselves and the rest of us duffers around the world.
Don’t agree that this is growing golf.
Motivation isn’t there to work hard & play your best with these large signing fee’s.
It shouldn't be surprising that anyone would go and get all of that money, I'm not sure how much his signing bonus but I'm guessing it's 100 million or more
PGA Tour needs to remove corn cob from butt.
1. He’s there for the money
2. He’s there for the money
3. He’s there for the money
4. He gets to play less events per year and still
make more money
I don’t like when they make the excuse about PGA tour not having guaranteed money… it’s golf… you compete and earn your money. If you get last, you don’t deserve money.
You’re wrong. The pga makes billions off the player’s. Advertising them. If the player earns his pro card he deserve a payment for every tournament he inters (base salary).
I’ve played golf (not well) my entire life, in my fifties now. That said, I’ll still watch PGA tour events and LIV events. You play the course, not those that are in the same tournament. You’re trying to beat the course and possibly shoot the lowest score to win.
I see nothing wrong with there being the PGA and LIV events.
Your read on this is off base. This isn't about playing the course, it's playing the money. These guys dreamed of playing on the PGA tour. Now they dream of the money. Blood money.
@@darthrage2464 Exactly.
Still makes no difference to me. They’re free to play whichever and wherever they wish and for the money or the love of the game.
@@darthrage2464 but the PGA tour contract with china isn’t…blood money?
Why he joined liv? Money. Very simple.
Perfect question from Tucker. Golf - the PGA version - has always been a hallmark of pure capitalism, pure meritocracy. If you don't literally "make the cut" the first two rounds, you go home actually losing money (you have to pay expenses for you and your caddie, including his salary). You only get a paycheck (and the resultant sponsors, hopefully) if you play well.
Now the LIV is changing that. It's basically turned a boxing "prizefight" into a salaried UFC, with players following the orders of their bosses.
Kudos to Tiger for apparently turning down about $730 M.
$730M was too low. If Tiger was CEO of LIV, then they would have a broadcast partner in a few weeks, more fans. People would show up just to see Tiger at the event and possibly tee off.
Wrong. Sponsorships already turned PGA golf into a "boxing prize fight". Except players just wear advertisements on their clothes for guaranteed money...including the opportunity to sit on their butts and play when they feel like it. The LIV Golf format has a team aspect where the up and coming stars are placed on teams with veterans. The veterans continue to play hard throughout the whole tournament to help their teammates get money for their families. LIV golfers don't get to sit out of tournaments. Their best 48 play every tournament and the shotgun start essentially adds pressure to every shot because the leaders can't really play it safe....and they all play the same weather conditions. If the top 48 golfers in the world played at LIV, then we would basically get to see a major championship for every event. Instead we get the PGA Maxi Pad Memorial where the top 20th golfer is the strongest in the field. Get real.
I think Tiger has been paid handsomely, like a few million extra per appearances in Dubai and other places on his personal global golf journeys. If he was 28 or 30 and healthy, he would have gone in a minute.
This is not what it appears to be, similar to just about anything that we've seen since March 2020.
Tiger can barely make it around the course these days, he is not going to fight against those who've helped him become the biggest name in Golf.
@@PowersFamily2011 Thank you. They also don’t talk about the time it actually takes to actual play tour golf. You barely get time to see your family. You barely get rest. Then they force players to play a certain number of events to qualify for the postseason. Even though you need to qualify on points. Who cares how many events you play if you have the right amount of points? The people at the top making the money. People bring up Tiger as if he wasn’t the first sporting billionaire and isn’t one now. Over 90 percent of his money was made off the course. Also conveniently people forget about “The Match” thats way more like a prize fight being 1v1 and on pay per view
Only woke and jackasses can ruin the integrity of Golf like it has done on other sports. Golf doesn't need people to grow the game, it's been great for 150 years and is played in 150 countries and is one of the greatest games in all of sports for the young and old.
He doesn’t care about fans, or golf. It’s simply about the money, “we did this for the money”
So what.
Why is he using his liv golf money to create a golf complex for young kids 🤔
LIV was the single best thing 2 ever happen 2 golf
Ever since LIV and PGA have been going at it, I instantly remember WWE vs WCW...and we saw how that turned out. I like the stir up it's put in the golf world as a consumer, and it will be fascinating to see if the same results occur from what happened to WCW.
WWE is nothing like PGA .... Wake up ...
@@johnb2905 I never said WWE is like the PGA lol. I gave an example involving them. …Pay attention…..
@@MrFergusonLawn Yes, but the PGA Tour is absolute in it's commitment to competition, and upping that competition. LIV is like the WWE, offering more 'entertainment' and a different format. There are so many things I dislike about LIV, but setting aside all others, just the fact that the leaders are not coming down the 18th hole, that they are all playing a scramble-like format--is totally stupid.
@@wreckim ok, but they have a ton of talent now. Regardless, they have a product with top talent and money. They aren’t going anywhere. If anything, temptation for upcoming players and current players for more money less work is gonna be there.
If we look at the “economics”. Bro just say your doing it for the cheddar
Tucker is on a roll. His head was spinning when Bryson was talking about the technical stuff he has worked on. Bryson is so cool and a great golf ambassador.
You would have thought by going to SMU Bryson dechambeau would have been able to give a good reason why he went to live golf. Bryson in the interview toad Tucker that he went to make his family financially secure and he said would you have turned down the offer I got which was say at least a hundred million dollars so now he is financially set. We must understand that Bryson's contract is for 4 years and if you break it you have to pay back five times what your bonus was so Bryson would have to pay back 500 million dollars to get out of live golf. Bryson is now starting his second year with Liv golf he has three more years to play in the league to obtain the entire 100 million dollars so he's going to remain positive about Liv golf until his contract is up or their league fails. I am tired of hearing how long he hits the golf ball there are probably at least 10 members of the PGA who hit the ball as far as he does. Oh by the way since Bryson says he is so great how many Liv golf tournaments has she won how did he do in the Masters, l o u s e y. He was a big sensation when he was hitting it 330 yards off the tee John Rahm hits the ball that far now and has a better all-around game. Bryson you made your bed and now you're stuck in it for another 3 years you have to remain positive and speak positive about your league because you're under contract. This was a b******* interview. P. S h e a
Seing how professional athletes in other sports have guaranteed income through contracts, I understand why people want to play with LIV.
golf is different always has been. are tennis players paid contracts. nope.
If they are on tour, they are guaranteed income through sponsorships, how else was Phil Mickelson was able to lose $40 million gambling? I have no problem with people getting whatever they can, but at what point do they not sell their soul? His comparisons about the pizza shop, Tucker should have said "the new pizza shop didn't butcher people in my business though".
"I'm all about growth in the game of golf" .. I stopped after that line. Just man up and say you couldn't not take the money, nobody would care if they just say that. They're trying to make it seem like they're pioneers of some sort when they just took a pay most people would also take. Cheers Cryson.
He said later on that economically, it makes sense..no one going to liv has denied that
Well you shouldn’t have “stopped after that line.” Your take sucks, watch the video
This move is so Fox News 🤮
The PGA has already changed the upcoming format. More players get paid and more money goes to the winners and top players. It’s still not at the level of LIV but they know it’s time to change. Personally I think the PGA will have to merge or accept the new LIV tour. Tiger only has a few years left and that is the biggest prize for anyone. Rory is good but not the draw of Tiger and as more young players go to LIV or even their version (I’m guessing that’s coming) of the “minor league” tour the pga will be begging for some sort of resolution.
If the manufactures haven’t dropped the players who have gone to LIV and the players still get sponsor money what leverage does the pga have? TV rights? Nope. LIV is already looking at going to Australia and the pga never managed that so they better get some new leadership or they are doomed. In the end it’s good for the game to have new formats and more competition. Golf is a tough game to sell to kids and youngsters. It takes something special to take some kids away from tv or video games or even a pickup basketball game to go play for 4 hours or more and have to pay to play around rules and old school dress codes. Golf has to change things up!
well said
Yes, I'm sure the PGA will have to start playing 3 round no-cut tournaments with less drama and less competition in order to 'compete'. BTW, no one seems to talk about the fact that LIV payed LIV players a huge bonus to join BECAUSE the PGA Tour threaten to ban them from their tour. If that hadn't happened, they would have just been playing for the tournament winnings. I'm all for LIV if they allow anyone to compete and get onboard. No way they will do that. They don't want talent, they want NAMES.
Rory and tiger don't belong in the same sentence, draw or talent.
All these complaints about the dirty Saudi money but isn’t taking that money from them and using it positively in America a good thing?
This all reminds me a lot of World Series Cricket back in the 70s. Those players were banned from international cricket. WSC introduced the limited overs or one-day format to cricket which was faster paced and, as the name implies, meant the game was over in 6 hours rather than 5 days. In the end it rejuvenated cricket and was incorporated into international cricket competition.
It’s the same exact thing your correct
It’s not the same. The top cricketers at the time were struggling to make a living financially and some had second jobs. These golfers are mostly multi millionaires. . There are players on the pga tour who have never won anything but are multi millionaires.
@@andrewgrimshaw5180 thats not many considering the amount of players are on the tour. PGA is very cutthroat
One day cricket was introduced at the professional level in 1963 in England. It was called the Gillette Cup.
@@nickhanlon9331 Ah, yes, I remember now, it was a while ago that I saw the documentary on World Series Cricket. Thanks for the correction. It did introduce the coloured clothes and day/night or floodlit cricket, right?
Wow Bryson!??!?!? That pizza analogy was pretty......how do i say this......Stupid.
Bryson explaining my swing. Thanks, It's hard for me to put it into words and he nailed it.
I disagree with this. I believe in every sport you want all the best employee in the same league. Golf has never been a team sport it’s always been an individual sport
I respectfully disagree as both High School and Collegiate golf is scored both as individual AND Team. LIV is the first attempt at professionals playing as individual and team outside of the Ryder Cup, President's Cup, and other such competition so the Team concept is not alien to pros.
Like the man said that 128 million from Saudi Arabia is why he's playing.
And you wouldn't?
@@grep67 Other, much better players than Bryson didn't, so why are you intimating everyone would. It's not as easy a decision as you're making it out to be. But, that's the problem these days, people feel they are entitled to comment even when they only have a rudimentary understanding of the subject matter.
@@jonburrows8602 , you think a lot of yourself, huh ? GFY
I fully agree with allowing the competition of LIV golf and detest this coordinated effort to take it down, but Bryson isn’t nearly as smart as he thinks he is.
Oh but he's a trend setter. All they care about is the money.....period!!!
Big fan of Bryson!
Live and let LIV!
After a couple of more seasons, this is going to be a force!
Let them qualify for Majors!
No it won’t lol
He is a fine young man and highly intelligent.
@@Malcolm.Y He's a jerk and a complete pseudo intellectual. That's why he didn't have many friends on the PGA Tour.
It's just the same crappy format of boring modern golf but with different backers. Who cares.
If anyone was offered the opportunity Bryson was offered you’d take it. With all that money from LIV he can do a lot of things he is passionate about. His TH-cam channel for example. Bryson is doing a lot for the game of golf, attracting a younger audience for one. He isn’t a sheep following the herd. Respect to Bryson.
MLB just dumped Topps from making baseball cards, that has more of a negative effect on sports than LIV ever will.
WHAT! Topps has been making cards for how long? Wow
What?!? No more Topps BB Crads?
Tucker represents the LGBTQ on Fox.
@@cats5351 🤦♂️ No he doesn't. You don't seem to know what "represent" means
Hmm. Well I’m glad my dad and I saved every topps card we had. Value must go up even more 🧐
I'm shocked that Tucker never asked one question regarding Saudi Arabia financing LIV
"A lot of opportunity..." (Opportunity, of course, meaning Cha CHING!)
So you work for free and don’t care about money
@@FP194
All I ask is that he's honest. He's not dreaming of the OPPORTUNITY of playing in freaking Saudi Arabia. It's obviously the money. Why can't he just say that? (it's probably part of his contract).
@@PaulSchober , how the phuck do you know what he thinks ? You pompous assholes act like he cheated on you. Get a life, Karen.
LIV golf is just not interesting. It's not competitive.
@Chip in4seven Plus the love of money is the root of all evil.
He needs to rethink his pizza analogy...the pizza employees leaving the old place are getting banned, not the customers. Also, who says the new pizza place is better just because it spends a ton of money. We’ll see how much money LIV actually makes. Seems like a bad investment for the Saudis...money to burn apparently. At least some of the money is going to Americans though
Yea that one didn’t land. PGA is not banning the fans…
Why are they also obsessed with growth? Our courses are crowded with amateurs and it's become almost unbearable to play.
Sounds good... only problem is if you watch LIV it's pretty boring. No cut... same guys every week. It's exhibition golf, NOT an open tournament. In the PGA events you have up to 200 pros competing on Thursday and Friday to get into the weekend part of the event. It's exciting to see them compete and every day is a different mindset.
pga tour is a crap, players on the lower end struggle while the tour has pocketed tens of billions over the years.
PGA Tour is the same guys every week thanks to exemptions,they play on mundane resort courses which means it ends up as a putting contest which IS boring.
@@dart1806 You have a good point and I agree they need a restructuring. However so far LIV is extremely boring. Maybe it will improve and I hope it does. But purely from a spectator's point of view (mine) PGA events are far more entertaining.
@@christopherfranklin972 There is no format where putting isn't a huge part of the game. Par allocates 36 strokes per round for putting so you can't get away from that. But a big part of putting is approach shots, sand and chipping. If you don't like putting then golf is not the sport for you.
@@JackRainfield You not only missed my point entirely but also make false attributions,where exactly do I say I hate putting?
You need to reply to what is actually written not what figures in your imagination.
I have played the GAME of golf for over 50 years so am fully acquainted with the number of strokes allocated to putting.
no golfer wants to watch the best play 3 rounds with no cut and nobody cares about the teams because teams only matter when its for country.
150 mill has nothing to do with it.
Does the PGA own the golfers? Were the golfers drafted into the PGA?
I don't care an iota anout golf, but the PGA seems to be making asses of themselves over this LIV issue. It is the old mentality of business, 'we won't adjust our model to compete, people love us as we are'.
Will the PGA become KMART to LIV's Walmart? The decision is only up to the fans.
More money and less hours. Who wouldn't jump ship for that. Think about every person who left a job for better money, benefits, hours, or quality of life. I've known people who took a job for less money just to have better quality of life. With LIV, they get it all including the money. A part of me asks where is their loyalty and partriotism. After all, LIV is backed by the Saudia Arabia government. They have been one of our allies in that region but can hardly be trusted. But if you look at the rules and the way the tournaments are structured with payouts, I think it would be hard for any player to turn it down. And if all the best players join the LIV, that's less competition for Tiger Woods and maybe he will win another few majors and eventually beat Jack Nicklaus' record. Doubtful, but possible. With Tiger's best golfing days behind him and his limited schedule, I'm surprised he didn't jump ship other than he is still chasing Jack's record on the PGA.
The players in liv are not the best. Besides dechambeu, there are no young players. Look at how these guys did in majors. They act like it’s not about the money, which irritates me. They lie rather than saying it’s about money. They are no different than Lebron James supporting China. Just because the NBA supports corrupt governments doesn’t make it ok for these guys to do the same.
How do you do that???? Steroids' Tucker Steroids mostly.
Wow never knew nothing about this guy until now he’s amazing God bless him.
I learned about him in one of the last golf video games, he could make up some holes faster than I wanted.
Even if you don't agree with it, I think he brings up valid points. I agree with him that in the end there will be a blend and the tours will learn from each other and coexist.
Very well spoken Bryson!!! Congrats!
Very well crafted.
He’s so full of himself it’s hilarious, everything he said was planned and written for him, he’s not a good person and if you ever follow him in the course one day you’ll see what I mean. There’s a reason he’s the most hated man on the tour and if you really wanted the opinion of LIV you should of interviewed someone with credibility
like camero smith, he would say something like "money" right away lol
I mean it’s an interview of him, of course it will be all about him and his opinions, he’s a great player and gets a ton of hate, billy horchsel is way worse than bryson.
A very genuine interview .. thank you Bryson .
How they gonna ban golfers...its ridiculous!
It's their tour/company, they can do whatever they want.
How is it ridiculous? What other company would allow you to moonlight for a competitor?
PGA looks a bit like the Masters excluding black players from the field back in the day... or Muirfield excluding female members. Not for the racial implications, but just in the retrospective perception of how close-minded, exclusive, and uncompromising they appear in the face of a changing landscape. It will be a blemish in time for the PGA.
Well said, sir.
What did they have before the PGA? Monopolies are illegal for one and everyone has a right to compete including organizations period. NFL and NBA weren't always just one organization.
Most LIV critics are hypocrites. They have no problems with NBAs heavy ties and investments with China, or with multiple arabic countries' investments in the english premier league. This is all about money, from all sides: the PGA, LIV and the players.
Agree
Actually you Fox News /Trump culties are the hypocrites. The Saudi royal family are much bigger killers than the average Chinese company. Both are wrong and you should criticise both, don't put your stupid Trump cult identity before basic principles.
C'mon meng... Mainland C. And S. Arabia didn't nothing wrong... They just have their own rules that people must obey.... 😂😂😂
Providing opportunity? It provides opportunities only for the select few that were offered huge amounts to play there in the first place! How is buying your entire field growing the game?
Exactly, talking utter nonsonse.
So many men and women I know picked up the game of golf over the last few years. It’s a great sport! 👍🏼
Boring sport
@@twobeerjohn uh ok. Ya know you don’t have to comment on everything you see on the internet right?
Simple answer, a bundle of money and no strings attached or performance expectations
Sounds like a dream job or that of a weatherman.
Plyers should be able to play both tours !!!!!
LIV was designed to coexist with the PGA Tour but it's been the PGA Tour that has declined to coexist with the LIV.
2:31, I play Hickory shafted clubs and find it quite enjoyable, interesting and challenging. Today everyone wants to hit it 300 yards and spin them back on the greens.
they ruined their careers