Sounds like a great idea for another video. Scenario: You have forgotten your password and lost access to your devices. On a new device you would give your apple ID, select forgot password...at that point you would be prompted for a recovery key. We will add that idea for better clarity to our video queue. Any other suggestions would be welcomed. Thanks for commenting and subscribing!
Yeah I think that’s a great video to produce. I’ve found one that describes the process on TH-cam since I posted this comment. But it’s not great. What’s very strange to me about the Recovery Key process is even when someone has access to your phone they can still go into Settings and change the recovery key. It only requires the phone PIN. Doesn’t seem any more secure than a Recovery Contact. Love to hear your opinion
@@timmurphy9834We have a new video that explains everything in a few weeks. Regarding your comment about someone being able to turn off the key...Access to a trusted device is a major vulnerability to all this security. It would be better if Apple/Google allowed users to set a secondary verification method outside the device to remove or change security settings on the device/account.
@@CyberMedics yeah I played around with the Recovery Key process. Agree it is a major security hole that no additional verification on the device is required to change an existing Recovery Key.
Thanks for the question. Hope you gave the video a thumbs up. Are you referring to use Google authenticator app and or possibly a Google Titan security to secure the Apple ID?
@@CyberMedics Yes, I currently use the Google authenticator app but not with iOS. I just ordered a set of the Google USB-C/NFC security keys yesterday. Was just checking if you're familiar with using that as another option?
@@DJ_Driven Don't know of a way to use the Google authenticator app to secure the Apple ID, since it is used to create TOTP codes for account logins. Authenticator apps are not as secure as using a hardware security key. The Titan keys can be used to secure the apple ID in various ways. Any web based storage system that supports hardware keys (like Bitwarden paid subscription) could be used. This is a link to another way to encrypt and protect the Apple ID: th-cam.com/video/YZTfkfY9mUE/w-d-xo.html
@@DJ_Driven Do you have cloud storage account that can be secured with a security key? This is the best method to backup the account ID and is not unique to Titan. In this video we show you how to encrypt, backup & secure the authenticator applications, but all of the procedures apply to the Apple ID. th-cam.com/video/imgXU5ahTA8/w-d-xo.html The thing to focus is on: 1) file encrypting the apple ID, 2) consider cloud storage w/hardware key security, & 3) Printing out and storing in a safe location. Finally you cannot directly encrypt or protect the Apple ID with the hardware security key. Please let us know if you need any help.
What if I have Apple ID passwords and pin but not a recovery key, iCloud and both phones said I do not have recovery key set up, but I can’t generate a recovery key because it’s asking me for one
Thanks for commenting and subscribing. Please see timestamp 4:38. Under the settings you should be able to toggle the recovery key on or off. If you're on an authenticated open device it does not ask you to authenticate the previous recovery key. It is one of the security flaws of the Apple iOS. Anyone who gets access your open devices can turn off the recovery key and set a new one.
There is a number on my ID that I DIDN'T NOT approve, somehow the password was changed and now I can NOT get access to is, is there anyway I can get back into it?
@@CyberMedics I tried calling apple yesterday, its hopeless. It's for an ID that was changed in 2017 (not by me) and a number added (not by me) so since I don't have the entire number I can't recover the ID....
I lost my phone recently, and in it was the trusted phone number. I also was not able to log in to any other apple devices. Is there hope for me to retrieve my account?
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OMG: Thank you fir this information. I have a KEY but it appears to be incorrect in every way. I have more apple user names and passwords than I know how to handle. Why? Because I don’t have a correct recovery KEY. THANK YOU. Now, wish me luck as I c as n not afford to lose any data or photos even in iCloud. Thank you!!!!!
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I'm thrilled that I found your Very specific video on Recovery of a Apple Recovery Key.....I feel like I just took a valuable College course on understanding Apple products in depth...💯👩🏻💻
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Well this is what I want to do, I want to get back into my original Apple/ iCloud account. I just found my account recovery key but I don't know where or how to type it in? I have two Apple ID accounts and currently am using an old one to replace the original Apple ID which I lost the password to. Yesterday I found my account recovery key to the original Apple ID with the lost password. Now that I found it, I would like to use the old account again to recover photos. But I can't get into it because there is nowhere to type in my account recovery key, on my MacBook or on my iPhone XR. The only thing I get is runaround. At this point I am guessing I can do is collect all of my passwords, ID's and account recover-key that I can find and take it to our local Apple Store?
The 28 digit recovery key is used to set up the apple id on a device if for some reason you lost the password & 2fa authentication. When you go through the device setup with the apple ID you are trying to recover, you will get a chance to input the key and authenticate the device. If you have the key, yes the apple store could walk you through the process. Please keep us updated with your results to help others.
@@cloutj69j72 I don't think you can access the account, if you lost your recovery key & the 2FA of the phone# tied to the account. That is why we recommend a VOIP# tied to your account instead of just the cell #. This ensures you can get access through 2FA even if you lose the phone.
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Right now I myself can't get into my Apple account as I got to wait a week once I did the account recovery option, from now on I am gonna start changing the phone number on it before getting a new Apple device as I would have to have an number on it where I have to do an verification code to be sent to my number, tired of having to go through this, as soon as I have access back into my account in a week or so I sure am going to start an recovery account Key and write it down or better yet take a screenshot and store it in a safe folder on my phone and also have it printed for future reference
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Thank you for this. However I have been locked out from even getting into passwords and security due to Apples error in making me enter a password that was incorrect too many times (they told me the password change I made the day prior never took effect) and I was locked out. Don't have a recovery key but Apple has just made things worse every time I call.
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We have a great video coming out in a few weeks. Right now it is available to our Cyber-Resident members. It will demonstrate how to recover with the key on the iPhone & iPad.
@@CyberMedics yes I have my password and ID to log in. Apple told me I have one, despite me telling them months ago that I don't. I would have recorded/stored it if I was given one. I am being prompted to input it every time I log in now and can't access my emails/icloud without it.
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So… if a thief has your passcode and your trusted device, he can just turn off your recovery key and reset your password, locking you out of iCloud. Am I correct?
The only way to prevent that is to set a screen time code (preferably different from your device passcode of course) and then enable restrictions for account- and passcode changes.
I forgot my apple ID password and security key. I contacted apple support they didn't help me. I also forgot the mac password (which was Apple ID) so I made a disaster:( can you help me?
I wish it were this easy, but I don't have a recovery key despite apple saying it was assigned to me. I am locked out of everything and when I call Apple they offer a different story every time> I have all proof of purchase on all of my trusted devices but they I can't log in to turn off the recovery key as I am being asked to enter the recovery key to do so. Would love to get help from anyone who can sort this out!
@@CyberMedics I can log in as far as a message saying "you have unsuccessfully attempted to sign in and unlock your account. To access your account you must now reset your password." When I hit continue it takes me to a pop up window that describes verification options. It's a long story as I went so far as to get my old phone (One of three trusted devices) repaired just to solve this issue and apple left me high and dry in the middle of trying to set the phone up again. I feel so cheated by apple
@@spetriebader Really sorry to hear that this happened to you. If you'd like additional support please email us at cybermedics.org@gmail.com. We'd like to try & help you get this sorted.
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It appears that if someone observes my passcode and then steals my iPhone that having a Recovery Key does me no good. The thief who observed my passcode and then physically grabbed my phone has my passcode so the thief can turn off my Recover Key using the stolen passcode. I was hoping that the Recovery Key would help is someone stole my phone (and had my passcode). Am I missing something?
Absolutely correct. If you don't secure access to trusted devices....any of those devices can be used to turn off the recovery key. I think Apple should improve the security of turning off the recovery key. What are your thoughts?
@@CyberMedics Agreed. Apple should fix this. It would be easy to require the Apple account login password for access to sensitive device changes and info. Based on what I have learned from you video and others, here is my plan of action to better protect myself. 1. Actions to prevent a thief from observing my passcode - Minimize the frequency of entering my passcode by using Face ID (or fingerprint) - Change my passcode to either “alphanumeric” or “custom numeric” of more than six characters to make it more difficult for thieves to observe my passcode - Enable “wipe iPhone after 10 passcode failures” to make it difficult to guess my passcode in case only part of my passcode was observed by the thief 2. Actions to mitigate the damage of a thief obtaining my passcode - Enable “find my iPhone” feature so that I can wipe my iPhone remotely if stolen/lost (and learn how to do this using my wife’s phone before I need to do it) - Do no use Apple keychain for my passwords. Use a third party password manager. (I use 1Password.) - Secure sensitive information on my iPhone using a secure app (like 1Password). Remove secure information form unsecured apps like Notes, Contacts, Photos, etc. - Minimize the cash transfer apps (Venmo, Zelle, Cash App, PayPal, etc.) on my iPhone - maybe do not use them or limit it to only one. Pick one that requires a login password beyond my iPhone passcode. - Minimize (or eliminate the bank and brokerage apps that I have on my iPhone. - Minimize the number of credit cards in Apple Pay - maybe limit to only one. - Backup my iPhone and laptop/desktop to something additional to iCloud - external hard drive, online backup, etc. Any suggestions/observations on my tactics are very welcome!
@@ThomasGifford Excellent Plan. Have provided some comments below. This seems like a good outline for a follow on video also. Well though out! 1. Actions to prevent a thief from observing my passcode (CM- All excellent) - Minimize the frequency of entering my passcode by using Face ID (or fingerprint) - Change my passcode to either “alphanumeric” or “custom numeric” of more than six characters to make it more difficult for thieves to observe my passcode - Enable “wipe iPhone after 10 passcode failures” to make it difficult to guess my passcode in case only part of my passcode was observed by the thief 2. Actions to mitigate the damage of a thief obtaining my passcode (CM- Comments below) - Enable “find my iPhone” feature so that I can wipe my iPhone remotely if stolen/lost (and learn how to do this using my wife’s phone before I need to do it) - Do no use Apple keychain for my passwords. Use a third party password manager. (I use 1Password.) CM: Always best not to link all information to one eco system...in this case Apple keychain. We have multiple videos on BitWarden. Before BW only used PBKDF2 SHA-256, but now allows Argon2 to derive your encryption key. This eliminates one of the advantages of 1Password. I think they are both 1st Rate. - Secure sensitive information on my iPhone using a secure app (like 1Password). Remove secure information form unsecured apps like Notes, Contacts, Photos, etc. CM: Basic question....if someone can open my phone...will any of the exposed information hurt me? 1st option: Remove, 2nd option encrypt, 3rd option encrypt the encryption. See our video on using Pzip with a key file and hardware security key th-cam.com/video/YZTfkfY9mUE/w-d-xo.html. If you follow this method, the hacker would 1) have to have access to the phone, 2) know the PW to the sensitive information & 3) have access to your hardware security key to open the file. - Minimize the cash transfer apps (Venmo, Zelle, Cash App, PayPal, etc.) on my iPhone - maybe do not use them or limit it to only one. CM: In general any cash app should not be tied to a primary bank account (Period!). Please see our video on Venmo (th-cam.com/video/mUitsYAtn1s/w-d-xo.html). Cash transfer app should only have access to money you can afford to lose. Pick one that requires a login password beyond my iPhone passcode. CM: This is primary consideration for any app that could make you vulnerable - Minimize (or eliminate the bank and brokerage apps that I have on my iPhone. CM: Although this is will be inconvenient, best security practice: do not have any financial accounts on the phone, other than those you are willing to lose the assets associated with the account. - Minimize the number of credit cards in Apple Pay - maybe limit to only one. CM: In the U.S. there is Federal protection against credit card fraud. It is ok to limit, but I think it is not critical. - Backup my iPhone and laptop/desktop to something additional to iCloud - external hard drive, online backup, etc. CM: Yes. When I was working IT full time we'd say: If it is critical back it up, really critical backup the backup, super critical.... Thanks for commenting & subscribing! Please give the videos a thumbs up & share our content with your colleagues.
@@CyberMedics Thanks for taking the time to so thoughtfully add your comments. Your idea of a secondary bank accout used for transfers with limited funds is one that I like and I plan to check into it. (I hope that I can do it with my current bank rather than having to get a second back as I am trying to simplify my finances.) Your observation about the very strong credit card fraud protection is a good one. While I knew this, I did not connect the dots to arrive at the conclusion that I did not have to worry much about a credit card compromise should my iPhone be compromised. You now have a new subscriber!
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i forgot the recovery key...is there anyway to get it back? iam not able to find option to regenerate or recover it..pls help
Thanks for commenting and subscribing. If you have another device logged in you can turn off the recovery key. Ther is ni way to regenerate it.
How does one use a recovery key to regain access? There’s no Apple help document that explains the process. Nor does your video
Sounds like a great idea for another video. Scenario: You have forgotten your password and lost access to your devices. On a new device you would give your apple ID, select forgot password...at that point you would be prompted for a recovery key. We will add that idea for better clarity to our video queue. Any other suggestions would be welcomed. Thanks for commenting and subscribing!
Yeah I think that’s a great video to produce. I’ve found one that describes the process on TH-cam since I posted this comment. But it’s not great.
What’s very strange to me about the Recovery Key process is even when someone has access to your phone they can still go into Settings and change the recovery key. It only requires the phone PIN. Doesn’t seem any more secure than a Recovery Contact. Love to hear your opinion
@@timmurphy9834 Would you please post the link to the videos so we can take a look at it.
@@timmurphy9834We have a new video that explains everything in a few weeks. Regarding your comment about someone being able to turn off the key...Access to a trusted device is a major vulnerability to all this security. It would be better if Apple/Google allowed users to set a secondary verification method outside the device to remove or change security settings on the device/account.
@@CyberMedics yeah I played around with the Recovery Key process. Agree it is a major security hole that no additional verification on the device is required to change an existing Recovery Key.
Can you use Google authenticator app and or possibly a Google Titan security key as another option?
Thanks for the question. Hope you gave the video a thumbs up. Are you referring to use Google authenticator app and or possibly a Google Titan security to secure the Apple ID?
@@CyberMedics Yes, I currently use the Google authenticator app but not with iOS. I just ordered a set of the Google USB-C/NFC security keys yesterday. Was just checking if you're familiar with using that as another option?
@@DJ_Driven Don't know of a way to use the Google authenticator app to secure the Apple ID, since it is used to create TOTP codes for account logins. Authenticator apps are not as secure as using a hardware security key. The Titan keys can be used to secure the apple ID in various ways. Any web based storage system that supports hardware keys (like Bitwarden paid subscription) could be used. This is a link to another way to encrypt and protect the Apple ID: th-cam.com/video/YZTfkfY9mUE/w-d-xo.html
@@CyberMedics do you already have a video on how to set up a Titan security key to secure an Apple ID?
@@DJ_Driven Do you have cloud storage account that can be secured with a security key? This is the best method to backup the account ID and is not unique to Titan. In this video we show you how to encrypt, backup & secure the authenticator applications, but all of the procedures apply to the Apple ID. th-cam.com/video/imgXU5ahTA8/w-d-xo.html The thing to focus is on: 1) file encrypting the apple ID, 2) consider cloud storage w/hardware key security, & 3) Printing out and storing in a safe location. Finally you cannot directly encrypt or protect the Apple ID with the hardware security key. Please let us know if you need any help.
What if I have Apple ID passwords and pin but not a recovery key, iCloud and both phones said I do not have recovery key set up, but I can’t generate a recovery key because it’s asking me for one
Thanks for commenting and subscribing. Please see timestamp 4:38. Under the settings you should be able to toggle the recovery key on or off. If you're on an authenticated open device it does not ask you to authenticate the previous recovery key. It is one of the security flaws of the Apple iOS. Anyone who gets access your open devices can turn off the recovery key and set a new one.
Any update on your situation? Please let us know if you need any support
There is a number on my ID that I DIDN'T NOT approve, somehow the password was changed and now I can NOT get access to is, is there anyway I can get back into it?
Are you referring to your Apple ID? Are you logged into the ID on any devices?
@@CyberMedics I tried calling apple yesterday, its hopeless. It's for an ID that was changed in 2017 (not by me) and a number added (not by me) so since I don't have the entire number I can't recover the ID....
@thelthrythquezada8397 You haven't had access since 2017? You are not logged in on any devices?
I lost my phone recently, and in it was the trusted phone number. I also was not able to log in to any other apple devices. Is there hope for me to retrieve my account?
Do you have a Apple recovery key tied to the account?
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Any update on your account recovery?
sir i forgot my recovery key how to reset plz help
Are you logged into any Apple device with your Apple ID?
OMG: Thank you fir this information. I have a KEY but it appears to be incorrect in every way. I have more apple user names and passwords than I know how to handle. Why? Because I don’t have a correct recovery KEY.
THANK YOU. Now, wish me luck as I c as n not afford to lose any data or photos even in iCloud. Thank you!!!!!
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It worked, I’m back in business (figuratively speaking) what a relief.
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I'm thrilled that I found your Very specific video on Recovery of a Apple Recovery Key.....I feel like I just took a valuable College course on understanding Apple products in depth...💯👩🏻💻
Thank you for commenting and subscribing. Have you turned on the Recovery Key for your apple ID?
Check out our part 2 on this video and please comment. Thank you. th-cam.com/video/Keu7L1UySUk/w-d-xo.html
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Well this is what I want to do, I want to get back into my original Apple/ iCloud account. I just found my account recovery key but I don't know where or how to type it in? I have two Apple ID accounts and currently am using an old one to replace the original Apple ID which I lost the password to. Yesterday I found my account recovery key to the original Apple ID with the lost password. Now that I found it, I would like to use the old account again to recover photos. But I can't get into it because there is nowhere to type in my account recovery key, on my MacBook or on my iPhone XR. The only thing I get is runaround. At this point I am guessing I can do is collect all of my passwords, ID's and account recover-key that I can find and take it to our local Apple Store?
The 28 digit recovery key is used to set up the apple id on a device if for some reason you lost the password & 2fa authentication. When you go through the device setup with the apple ID you are trying to recover, you will get a chance to input the key and authenticate the device. If you have the key, yes the apple store could walk you through the process. Please keep us updated with your results to help others.
I’m having trouble logging back to my iCloud I do not have access to my recovery key or my old phone I’m trying to get back into my old photos
There is a recovery key on the account?
@@CyberMedics yes
@@cloutj69j72 do you have your password and login ID?
@@CyberMedics yes I do
@@cloutj69j72 I don't think you can access the account, if you lost your recovery key & the 2FA of the phone# tied to the account. That is why we recommend a VOIP# tied to your account instead of just the cell #. This ensures you can get access through 2FA even if you lose the phone.
I lost my recovery key what do I need to do and I don’t remember it
Do you still have access to your Apple idnon a device?
Any update?
Good video but missed the part on using they recovery key.
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Right now I myself can't get into my Apple account as I got to wait a week once I did the account recovery option, from now on I am gonna start changing the phone number on it before getting a new Apple device as I would have to have an number on it where I have to do an verification code to be sent to my number, tired of having to go through this, as soon as I have access back into my account in a week or so I sure am going to start an recovery account Key and write it down or better yet take a screenshot and store it in a safe folder on my phone and also have it printed for future reference
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@@CyberMedics You're very welcome
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Thank you for this. However I have been locked out from even getting into passwords and security due to Apples error in making me enter a password that was incorrect too many times (they told me the password change I made the day prior never took effect) and I was locked out. Don't have a recovery key but Apple has just made things worse every time I call.
Hope you get the account back. When you do, consider setting a recovery key & be responsible for your own recovery instead of relying on Apple. Please keep us updated & thanks for commenting & subscribing.
Did you get your account back,
@@CyberMedicsI have the same problem
@@casecatcher6497 Thanks for commenting & subscribing. Can you provide us a few more details on how you lost access?
I have the same problem my Apple ID got scammed and he locked me I don’t know how to recover my Apple ID which belong to me
I forgot my recovery key, and cann not log on my icloud account….😢
Do you have any devices logged into your Apple ID? Have you tried logging onto the Web into your Apple account?
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But how do you USE the recovery key?
We have a great video coming out in a few weeks. Right now it is available to our Cyber-Resident members. It will demonstrate how to recover with the key on the iPhone & iPad.
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I was told I have a recovery key, but it was never assigned to me. I have trusted devices and they are all locked out. Any ideas?
Who told you you have a recovery key? Do you have the password and ID to log into your Apple ID account?
@@CyberMedics yes I have my password and ID to log in. Apple told me I have one, despite me telling them months ago that I don't. I would have recorded/stored it if I was given one. I am being prompted to input it every time I log in now and can't access my emails/icloud without it.
@@petrieinteriordesigns Are you logged in on your phone to to apple account?
@@CyberMedics yes I can't get past the recovery code
@@spetriebader So you are not logged on to any Apple device? Any Apple device you try to access requires the recovery code?
Amazing, nice and Very helpful videos
This is something interesting and informative...
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I feel so helpless. I lost my recovery key and I can’t get into my account without it.. am I totally screwed?
Do you have access to a trusted phone number tied to the account?
Are you signed into any other devices. We have a video premiering tonight: th-cam.com/video/RClU0GJE9As/w-d-xo.html that may be of some help.
If you are not signed into another device with the account, do not believe you will be able to recover the account.
So… if a thief has your passcode and your trusted device, he can just turn off your recovery key and reset your password, locking you out of iCloud. Am I correct?
Yes. They can do everything you mentioned.
The only way to prevent that is to set a screen time code (preferably different from your device passcode of course) and then enable restrictions for account- and passcode changes.
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I forgot security key solution?
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I forgot my apple ID password and security key. I contacted apple support they didn't help me. I also forgot the mac password (which was Apple ID) so I made a disaster:( can you help me?
@@alierdem3082 Do you have an Apple ID recovery key associated with the Account?
@@CyberMedics Id apple yes
@@alierdem3082 Are you signed into any apple device with your Apple ID?
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I wish it were this easy, but I don't have a recovery key despite apple saying it was assigned to me. I am locked out of everything and when I call Apple they offer a different story every time> I have all proof of purchase on all of my trusted devices but they I can't log in to turn off the recovery key as I am being asked to enter the recovery key to do so. Would love to get help from anyone who can sort this out!
Can you log in to your apple account on the web?
@@CyberMedics I can log in as far as a message saying "you have unsuccessfully attempted to sign in and unlock your account. To access your account you must now reset your password." When I hit continue it takes me to a pop up window that describes verification options. It's a long story as I went so far as to get my old phone
(One of three trusted devices) repaired just to solve this issue and apple left me high and dry in the middle of trying to set the phone up again. I feel so cheated by apple
@@spetriebader Really sorry to hear that this happened to you. If you'd like additional support please email us at cybermedics.org@gmail.com. We'd like to try & help you get this sorted.
@@spetriebaderany update?
@@CyberMedicshii can u pls help me i have same case
This video says how to generate Recovery Key, but it doesn't say how to recover an account using that Recovery Key.
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It appears that if someone observes my passcode and then steals my iPhone that having a Recovery Key does me no good. The thief who observed my passcode and then physically grabbed my phone has my passcode so the thief can turn off my Recover Key using the stolen passcode. I was hoping that the Recovery Key would help is someone stole my phone (and had my passcode). Am I missing something?
Absolutely correct. If you don't secure access to trusted devices....any of those devices can be used to turn off the recovery key. I think Apple should improve the security of turning off the recovery key. What are your thoughts?
@@CyberMedics Agreed. Apple should fix this. It would be easy to require the Apple account login password for access to sensitive device changes and info.
Based on what I have learned from you video and others, here is my plan of action to better protect myself.
1. Actions to prevent a thief from observing my passcode
- Minimize the frequency of entering my passcode by using Face ID (or fingerprint)
- Change my passcode to either “alphanumeric” or “custom numeric” of more than six characters to make it more difficult for thieves to observe my passcode
- Enable “wipe iPhone after 10 passcode failures” to make it difficult to guess my passcode in case only part of my passcode was observed by the thief
2. Actions to mitigate the damage of a thief obtaining my passcode
- Enable “find my iPhone” feature so that I can wipe my iPhone remotely if stolen/lost (and learn how to do this using my wife’s phone before I need to do it)
- Do no use Apple keychain for my passwords. Use a third party password manager. (I use 1Password.)
- Secure sensitive information on my iPhone using a secure app (like 1Password). Remove secure information form unsecured apps like Notes, Contacts, Photos, etc.
- Minimize the cash transfer apps (Venmo, Zelle, Cash App, PayPal, etc.) on my iPhone - maybe do not use them or limit it to only one. Pick one that requires a login password beyond my iPhone passcode.
- Minimize (or eliminate the bank and brokerage apps that I have on my iPhone.
- Minimize the number of credit cards in Apple Pay - maybe limit to only one.
- Backup my iPhone and laptop/desktop to something additional to iCloud - external hard drive, online backup, etc.
Any suggestions/observations on my tactics are very welcome!
@@ThomasGifford
Excellent Plan. Have provided some comments below. This seems like a good outline for a follow on video also. Well though out!
1. Actions to prevent a thief from observing my passcode (CM- All excellent)
- Minimize the frequency of entering my passcode by using Face ID (or fingerprint)
- Change my passcode to either “alphanumeric” or “custom numeric” of more than six characters to make it more difficult for thieves to observe my passcode
- Enable “wipe iPhone after 10 passcode failures” to make it difficult to guess my passcode in case only part of my passcode was observed by the thief
2. Actions to mitigate the damage of a thief obtaining my passcode (CM- Comments below)
- Enable “find my iPhone” feature so that I can wipe my iPhone remotely if stolen/lost (and learn how to do this using my wife’s phone before I need to do it)
- Do no use Apple keychain for my passwords. Use a third party password manager. (I use 1Password.)
CM: Always best not to link all information to one eco system...in this case Apple keychain. We have multiple videos on BitWarden. Before BW only used PBKDF2 SHA-256, but now allows Argon2 to derive your encryption key. This eliminates one of the advantages of 1Password. I think they are both 1st Rate.
- Secure sensitive information on my iPhone using a secure app (like 1Password). Remove secure information form unsecured apps like Notes, Contacts, Photos, etc.
CM: Basic question....if someone can open my phone...will any of the exposed information hurt me? 1st option: Remove, 2nd option encrypt, 3rd option encrypt the encryption. See our video on using Pzip with a key file and hardware security key th-cam.com/video/YZTfkfY9mUE/w-d-xo.html. If you follow this method, the hacker would 1) have to have access to the phone, 2) know the PW to the sensitive information & 3) have access to your hardware security key to open the file.
- Minimize the cash transfer apps (Venmo, Zelle, Cash App, PayPal, etc.) on my iPhone - maybe do not use them or limit it to only one.
CM: In general any cash app should not be tied to a primary bank account (Period!). Please see our video on Venmo (th-cam.com/video/mUitsYAtn1s/w-d-xo.html). Cash transfer app should only have access to money you can afford to lose.
Pick one that requires a login password beyond my iPhone passcode.
CM: This is primary consideration for any app that could make you vulnerable
- Minimize (or eliminate the bank and brokerage apps that I have on my iPhone.
CM: Although this is will be inconvenient, best security practice: do not have any financial accounts on the phone, other than those you are willing to lose the assets associated with the account.
- Minimize the number of credit cards in Apple Pay - maybe limit to only one.
CM: In the U.S. there is Federal protection against credit card fraud. It is ok to limit, but I think it is not critical.
- Backup my iPhone and laptop/desktop to something additional to iCloud - external hard drive, online backup, etc.
CM: Yes. When I was working IT full time we'd say: If it is critical back it up, really critical backup the backup, super critical....
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@@CyberMedics Thanks for taking the time to so thoughtfully add your comments.
Your idea of a secondary bank accout used for transfers with limited funds is one that I like and I plan to check into it. (I hope that I can do it with my current bank rather than having to get a second back as I am trying to simplify my finances.)
Your observation about the very strong credit card fraud protection is a good one. While I knew this, I did not connect the dots to arrive at the conclusion that I did not have to worry much about a credit card compromise should my iPhone be compromised.
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