How Plagueis FINALLY Broke Palpatine & Created DARTH SIDIOUS

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  • @bobaklan7436
    @bobaklan7436 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +146

    Palpatines teachings from Plaguies are very similar to Tarkin's upbringing by his family on Eriadu. Strip the rich and privileged young man of his comfort and sustenance, then put him in a dire destitute situation. No wonder the two got along so well, they were basically kindred spirits.

    • @Loku242
      @Loku242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Its actually because Tarkin has no moral compass beyond ambition and control. Tarkin was kept close to Palpatine's inner circle to ensure he didn't become a dangerous enemy. When you're dealing with a fixer who orders Empire sanctioned horrors, tortures, unethical experiments, and military occupations without losing a wink of sleep is dangerous. Palpatine keeping Tarkin close was also to keep him under control. If I were Palpatine, the only person I'd ever allow an opportunity for a backstab would be Vader, nobody else should ever be allowed that chance.

    • @rezajafari6395
      @rezajafari6395 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also known as "fancy British boarding school"

    • @theprodigalsun__
      @theprodigalsun__ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Loku242which was his undoing, why give anyone a chance for a backstab? Lol

    • @enoughothis
      @enoughothis หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Loku242, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

    • @Aivottaja
      @Aivottaja 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theprodigalsun__ To give Vader the opportunity to prove he can surpass his Master. Despite being utterly selfish, Sidious was devoted to the Sith Order in his own twisted way. He even bothered to wear that fancy Sith robe to the announcement of the Empire.

  • @ryancallsin
    @ryancallsin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

    Plaps was grooming Anakin like a mf. Darth Didious.

  • @johnquach8821
    @johnquach8821 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

    First rule of Darth Plagueis's Training: Don't Talk about Darth Plagueis's Training.

    • @aster4jaden
      @aster4jaden 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Second rule Darth Plagueis's Training: Don't Talk about Ancient Sith.

    • @thebuildbear
      @thebuildbear 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Why did laugh so hard at this?! 😅😅😅😂😂😂 Was Plagues Mr. Popo in disguise or Did he know Tyler Durden?!

    • @Ainttrippin
      @Ainttrippin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lmaaaooo

    • @HeldIntegral
      @HeldIntegral 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Catholic priest type shit

    • @TheDevilofDallas666
      @TheDevilofDallas666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@thebuildbear Good question. Kami, what the fuck am I doing here?

  • @Thebroshow13
    @Thebroshow13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    Fun fact , in the Darth plagues novel , when plagues first meet sheev , sheev didn’t won’t anything to do with politics , in fact , he actually hated it .

    • @johnwalker1058
      @johnwalker1058 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ironic...

    • @SilverlightShinnin
      @SilverlightShinnin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nice. So he orignaly hated politics. But ultimately must have told himself down the line on his path to the darkside too... dew it!
      Been wanting to read that book for awhile. I own all the X-Wing series books. And a few others.
      ...perhaps before anyone else he was first to tell himself.... do it!. Perhaps he studied Plato around that time. That the price of apathy toward public affairs was to be ruled by Evil men.

    • @Thebroshow13
      @Thebroshow13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@SilverlightShinnin 😂😂😂

    • @matthewsalviani9163
      @matthewsalviani9163 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      An amazing Star Wars novel it was. One of the best books I’ve ever read.

    • @panthermodern6572
      @panthermodern6572 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn't hate it. He attempted to deceive Hego in order to hide his ambitions... as he was used to doing so since he was little.

  • @LordWyatt
    @LordWyatt 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    It’s a good first lesson as Plagueis himself had to rely on only himself and the Dark Side after he murdered Tenebrous and was stranded on that world.

    • @jakoblevantinus9113
      @jakoblevantinus9113 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yep. Same with Darth Bane and Zannah in the Bane books

  • @randomramblings2325
    @randomramblings2325 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    It just shows how brilliantly cruel the Sith ultimately were and is it any wonder they were able to create the galactic Empire? Also, it just shows how brilliant the legends material truly is and still is to this day.

    • @lfr234
      @lfr234 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Honestly this shows how flawed the sith truly are. All they know is suffering which they use for conquest. They no nothing of how to sustain an empire. Thats why the empire lasted merely 30 years while the republic did for 1000 years

    • @slythe6755
      @slythe6755 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      👍 legends material is still unmatched!

    • @Homo_eWRECKtus
      @Homo_eWRECKtus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@lfr234 The Republic existed for several thousands of years, the only thing that changed 1000 years before Palpatine said that line was that the Sith religion was presumed to be extinct, leading the Jedi to recuse themselves from any political positions within the Republic's government. Unless Palpatine just had a Freudian slip moment and was actually referring to the Rule of Two era Sith Lords.

  • @socalpunisher
    @socalpunisher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Plaguies and his master tenabrus were so ahead of their time. They basically handed palpatine the blueprint to taking over the world . Too bad they did not live long enough to see their plans succeed.

    • @waynepolo6193
      @waynepolo6193 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would imagine Plagueis’ death/murder was an integral part of the plan’s success

    • @davemccrudden1999
      @davemccrudden1999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      World?

    • @socalpunisher
      @socalpunisher 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@davemccrudden1999 you’re right galaxy not world . My bad .

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    I want a Darth sidious and Darth plagueis back story in tales of the sith

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Nah filoni will butcher them

    • @givesrespect8788
      @givesrespect8788 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Just read the navol or listen to it on audible

    • @redred1952
      @redred1952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Plagueis as a they/them naahhh

    • @nawepmukwan7502
      @nawepmukwan7502 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Everyone does hell any story about ANY sith would have been better then wtf they gave us. Like who tf was begging for barris and the random witch🙄 disney sucks and george sucks for letting them do it

    • @davidward3091
      @davidward3091 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As long as it isn't from Disney

  • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
    @Warrior-Of-Virtue 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    13:24 Sounds like Plaguies was repeating the mistakes of the Brotherhood of Darkness. They too believed that there was nothing to learn from the Sith of old. A belief that Bane soundly disproved.

    • @robertpirtle7642
      @robertpirtle7642 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welcome my brother in lore

  • @MidnightMoon197
    @MidnightMoon197 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    I always looked at Palpatine as a spawn of the dark side. I always thought he was born inherently evil, that he didn't really need to learn dark side abilities. Never really knew he had to be trained as well.

    • @CelestialWarrior7
      @CelestialWarrior7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Real power is achieved through effort.... Talent is given but skill requires technique which only time can provide.

    • @rashidshadow9325
      @rashidshadow9325 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He was born evil but sometimes that evil needs to brought out. Being brought to the dark side helped with that

    • @Loku242
      @Loku242 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thats why Palpatine was the spawn of the dark side, it came naturally to him. Also historically the most evil people come from wealthy backgrounds

    • @YorktownUSA
      @YorktownUSA หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was a spawn of the dark side. That doesn't mean he didn't have to be trained.

    • @sarahcook2818
      @sarahcook2818 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He actually had a pretty rough backstory. He may have come from a wealthy family, but it was a very dysfunctional family with an abusive father.

  • @cyborg1017
    @cyborg1017 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You are the goat when it come to Star Wars may the force be with you my friend sith

  • @thomasparque7834
    @thomasparque7834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Plaguies was half right and half wrong about the ancient Sith. He was right to teach Sidous to deny him their knowledge until he had learned to forged himself into the Sith he wanted to be but should have let him be more free until sometime after becoming the Naboo senator. Ancient Sith or Jedi knowledge should be used to guide those who will fallow not to dictate their path

    • @Force_user57
      @Force_user57 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are basically saying the same thing twice,let the ancient teachings guide you is the same as let them dictate your actions.It's as if an atheist decided to follow Christian teachings.It's literally the same

    • @lufsolitaire5351
      @lufsolitaire5351 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There is still knowledge to glean from the past. Maybe old rituals or at least a guide on what not to do.
      Since a smart man learns from his mistakes but a wise man learns from the mistakes of others. It’s still necessary to understand why Naga Sadow, Exar Kun, Revan, Malik, Kreia, Vicitiate, etc. failed and how not to replicate those same failures. Palp’s flaw was pulling the ladder up behind him. If Anakin had remained fully human he would have taught him more but he still should have “embraced” him better because it was that weakness that Luke appealed to and succeeded in.

  • @EAcapuccino
    @EAcapuccino 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Don't think for a moment that Plaguies was any less brutal when training Sidious
    Mental and physical torture are the ways of the Sith and young Palpetine suffered too!

  • @siberia4078
    @siberia4078 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Plagueis will always be my favourite Sith Lord

  • @nine_realmslorry4478
    @nine_realmslorry4478 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As both a master and Dark lord of the Sith Plagues is very underrated. Another great video

  • @charliehoare1719
    @charliehoare1719 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Am I the only person who would love to see a darth plagius & Darth siderius series

    • @mariusconstantin6057
      @mariusconstantin6057 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No!

    • @Gildog77
      @Gildog77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Not with Kathleen Kennedy involved.

    • @charliehoare1719
      @charliehoare1719 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Gildog77 true

    • @_MaZTeR_
      @_MaZTeR_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Yes, but not with current Disney direction.

    • @iballa2
      @iballa2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      If based on the book but I don't trust Disney.

  • @Ratva666
    @Ratva666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Tell me again Sidious in great detail how you kill them."💀☠💀❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

    • @bombsczech4338
      @bombsczech4338 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes
      😂

    • @redred1952
      @redred1952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In Disney Star Wars them refers to one person 😂

  • @LauklynGorena
    @LauklynGorena 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I kinda wish you included the part about how Plauguis took Palpatine to a species who worshiped the Sith as gods to fight and die against and at the end Plauguis took a bite out of one of their hearts like it was an apple

    • @fofonablus7104
      @fofonablus7104 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah and then he gave Palps the heart to eat out of too 💀🙃

  • @ultraspawn4685
    @ultraspawn4685 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So, basically Plaguies took a rich kid and showered him with the Poor Side of the Force just to show him that poverty can have a drastic yet powerful influence on a person. I like it. 😁
    All the torture that Anakin went through before becoming Vader seems less cruel than what Sidious went through. Yikes.
    Awesome video, as always. Keep it up. 🙂

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Ever hear of the tragedy of Darth Plaguies the wise!

    • @frenzalrhomb6919
      @frenzalrhomb6919 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Mmmm, perhaps.

    • @goingblargh
      @goingblargh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Have I ever-?
      With all due respect, Chancellor, that’s like asking if Master Yoda has ever heard of C0caine.

    • @Ravenfanatic5
      @Ravenfanatic5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If its the real version, then "no."
      "I thought not. Its not a story the Jedi would tell you. Its a sith legend."

    • @josephferrel3413
      @josephferrel3413 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Who is that?

    • @leahalovley2639
      @leahalovley2639 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      What about the duality themes contained within the story of Darth Plaguis? If only there was a thesis on the topic to learn mor about it!

  • @MikkoAPenttila
    @MikkoAPenttila 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love the Plagueis novel (and a lot of the EU) because it shows that while they're destructive and evil. there's still something undeniably heroic about the Sith.

    • @WoKEWoRLdMAdNess
      @WoKEWoRLdMAdNess 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Watch Everest Productions Darth Plagueis fan made movie on TH-cam. It's done in video game type animation and based completely on the book. It's the best Star Wars fan film I've ever seen. The first half just came out like a week ago, and it's 2 hours long. If you loved the book, you would not be disappointed in the least.

    • @MikkoAPenttila
      @MikkoAPenttila 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WoKEWoRLdMAdNess thanks for the tip!

    • @Leuthen57
      @Leuthen57 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@WoKEWoRLdMAdNess It's so good. The Bane one was great too. Part i heard should be out in a few months.

    • @WoKEWoRLdMAdNess
      @WoKEWoRLdMAdNess 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Leuthen57 I know, and I can't wait!!!

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

  • @Unknown.Stranger
    @Unknown.Stranger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Very interesting! I've always been curious about Palpatine's training

    • @TheStupendousWave
      @TheStupendousWave  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You and me both!

    • @keithsantana145
      @keithsantana145 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just read the Book "Darth Plagueis".

    • @WoKEWoRLdMAdNess
      @WoKEWoRLdMAdNess 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Watch Everest Productions Darth Plagueis fan made film. You will not be disappointed. I've never talked up fan made films until I saw this. Computer animated and based completely on the book. The first half is two hours long, and the second half hasn't come out yet.

  • @DoneBrokeDatBack
    @DoneBrokeDatBack 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There are few things one can count on in life besides death and taxes. The other things? A need for food, shelter and dope ass videos from Stupendous Wave.

  • @thisdyingsoul76
    @thisdyingsoul76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Palpatine's cruelty is on full display with Darth Vader.
    Imagine being relieved of your arms and legs and the rest of your body burned to a crisp. And instead of being mercifully euthanized, they put you in a mechanical suit with built in life support, but are never truly given an opportunity for your wounds to heal.

  • @Gamerafighter76
    @Gamerafighter76 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I kinda like how Vague, yet insightful Sidious’s training was.

  • @ericrietvelt1970
    @ericrietvelt1970 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Darth Plageus was a Canadian. 😂

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So he was really a puffin all along.😅

  • @ryandenina7735
    @ryandenina7735 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Plag made Sid sit in a snow storm for hours with very little clothing

  • @nicksmith7974
    @nicksmith7974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not gonna lie the sinister background music gives me chills.

    • @michaelnapolillo
      @michaelnapolillo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know I wish he would put that exact song in the description. I can’t find it.

  • @Xiporah
    @Xiporah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You're out here making me want to relisten to this novel. The audiobook is so immersive.

  • @SonOfTamriel
    @SonOfTamriel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Darth Sidious is like an ancient Black Metal band from Norway in the early 90s

  • @Rencol666
    @Rencol666 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sidious was always a dark evil monster. The lesser one, a sith lord. And the greater one, spoiled rich kid.

  • @DixxoBig
    @DixxoBig 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm fairly new. Your narration is Grand Master level. AI will try to retaliate.
    May the Force be with you.

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      May the bots fail to the Dark Side😂

  • @nathanlynch9634
    @nathanlynch9634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Brilliant video.

    • @TheStupendousWave
      @TheStupendousWave  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Many thanks!

    • @nathanlynch9634
      @nathanlynch9634 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheStupendousWaveyour welcome I can’t wait for the next video.

  • @stop736
    @stop736 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Darth Baggins 3:00

  • @Gor85
    @Gor85 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is extremely brutal. Extremely brutal! I can understand why Plagueis avoided talking about ancient Sith. He wanted Palpatine to be clean slate,tabula rasa. But this was huge mistake too. I remember Mygeeto from battlefront 2. When I charged with clone army. We will be kind,may the Force be with you too😊

  • @vic5015
    @vic5015 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Makes me wonder if Jedi and Sith were ever in competition for a Force sensitive.

  • @Tbighead21
    @Tbighead21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I wish we could get a Darth Plaegus and Sidious show

    • @JoeBlow-p5g
      @JoeBlow-p5g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Why Disney would just make them lesbians, or get beat up by girls.

    • @jesuspernia8031
      @jesuspernia8031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HELL NO

    • @rodrigogarza4164
      @rodrigogarza4164 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They’ll just ruin it so no thanks

  • @Area1313J
    @Area1313J 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another Great Plagueis lore video! SWave making old things new! Love it!

  • @proximityclockworkx1572
    @proximityclockworkx1572 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This training is like David Goggins but on steroids

  • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
    @alsimmonshellspawn6021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This how the sith should be, dark gritty mature serious badass violent brutal smart cunning evil and very powerful, not what Disney and filoni had done to them, also exar kun used dark healing to heal all his bone crushed healing from it not only make him fall to the dark side but make far more powerful than he was before

    • @Reggie-zw8rm
      @Reggie-zw8rm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You won't ever get that, Disney isn't going to make it mature when they know 8 year olds are on Disney+
      If you want that stuff go dig up 90s extended universe stuff. And play all the old video games like Dark Forces 2, Jedi Outcast, Jedi Academy, KOTOR 1 and 2, Force Unleashed 1 and 2.

    • @alsimmonshellspawn6021
      @alsimmonshellspawn6021 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Reggie-zw8rm I know dude I'm just saying I know the EU and LucasArts games

  • @RetroSho
    @RetroSho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny this video popped up for me! I JUST got to Chapter 13 of the Plagueis novel where they get into this lore deep. The audiobook retelling of this novel is absolutely incredible as well and anyone who likes these stories should listen to it.

  • @SpaceCityProjectz
    @SpaceCityProjectz 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:46 i crushed that sub

  • @zooropa04
    @zooropa04 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean, I grew up in northern Indiana, with lake-effect winds that lowered the temperature to that rivaling the surface of Mars, so... I get it, lol.

  • @JohnJohn-dx7ue
    @JohnJohn-dx7ue 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve been waiting for a video like this. I love this book so much. I now listen to it on audible to fall asleep. Haha

  • @AmericanCalabar
    @AmericanCalabar 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1:46 I fulfilled my destiny years ago. 😈

  • @tromedlovdrolmai
    @tromedlovdrolmai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    At 4:58, does any one else think that looks Matt Smith, and if so, why is he there?

  • @branislavrybicka3178
    @branislavrybicka3178 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Darth Sidious the Cruel - extremelly well put. This should be Sidious´ title because he more than anyone earned it.

  • @kingshadow8782
    @kingshadow8782 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fantastic!

  • @Althar9809
    @Althar9809 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing holocron as always ! Disney will never fully grasp what a Sith truly is unfortunately. If they could, Tom Hiddleston would definitely be a great choice to play young Palpatine !
    With The Acolyte ending, it seems Plagueis won’t even be Sidious’ master in canon which is abhorrent but sadly possible.

  • @wesleyvl8572
    @wesleyvl8572 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A other good vidoe dude keep you rock

  • @user_miike
    @user_miike 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    more discussion videos would be nice

  • @yonkonomi5706
    @yonkonomi5706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Theres just something about Darth Sidious that makes him better than any other Sith before, or after him. Not even Emperor Vishiat compares in my eyes. Sidious IS the Sith.

  • @pgc9179
    @pgc9179 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:24 He also brought Vader on Korriban, that was epic

  • @user_miike
    @user_miike 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    where is the archivist? is he safe?

  • @airr1270
    @airr1270 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They need to hire you as a writer and more people like you who actually care for the lore and build the canon how George would’ve wanted

  • @christianburnett236
    @christianburnett236 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I recently watched Alcolyte it was good! I wish later we get to see more of Darth Plagueis! Obviously behined the scenes.

    • @redred1952
      @redred1952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Crack kills !

  • @raiderax8532
    @raiderax8532 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve watched this idk how many times since it dropped but I just love hearing about it. It makes me think about Tarkin and his own upbringing by his family which is why they seem like kindred spirits (noted as such in the Tarkin novel 😁)

  • @stapleman007
    @stapleman007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:20 you left out the training where Palpatine had to run while balancing an egg on a spoon. The convex side of the spoon, not the concave.

  • @digitaldarknight6162
    @digitaldarknight6162 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They need to make this a movie

  • @ThomasTenma
    @ThomasTenma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    have you seen plaguies episode 1?

  • @jjh99999
    @jjh99999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks!

  • @YayoHernandez-b1j
    @YayoHernandez-b1j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

    Wait, I thought Palpatine was born evil, not made evil because he had dark intentions since birth

    • @TheStupendousWave
      @TheStupendousWave  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +200

      He may have been born evil, but he was not born Sith. Plagueis broke the part of him that had never suffered or never felt real pain. By making Palpatine endure the squalor of normal beings Sidious was born, determined to never let his gifts lead to anything less than complete dominion over the galaxy.

    • @JohnnyDominion
      @JohnnyDominion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      While there was spmethibg sinister inside young Palpatine he never had the drive to unleash it. Some kind of morality that held him back. Plagueis played upon Palpatine's desires, his naviety and hunger for more that allowed him to tear down those moral barriers.

    • @YayoHernandez-b1j
      @YayoHernandez-b1j 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@TheStupendousWave Ohh OK my friend. the Stupendous wave Make a video of the Force itself training Anakin Skywalker or what if. My friend. please

    • @_MaZTeR_
      @_MaZTeR_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      "The Sith are considered evil."
      "Evil? What is that? Moments ago you defined yourself as a storm. You said you were death itself. Are you evil, then, or are you simply stronger and more awake than others?"

    • @Ravenfanatic5
      @Ravenfanatic5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@_MaZTeR_ wow. That's saying alot

  • @josephgriffin2388
    @josephgriffin2388 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tarkin went through similar kinds of hunts, and was scarred all over by them.

  • @EmceeCommon55
    @EmceeCommon55 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did Mace Windu deflecting the lightning disfigure Palpatine or was he already disfigured and was simply hiding it through some sort of dark side magic?

  • @HawaiiVenom392
    @HawaiiVenom392 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That makes sense he put darth Vader thru similar training

    • @Zurab_Rob
      @Zurab_Rob 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Now I understand why

  • @Aivottaja
    @Aivottaja 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For some reason, before this I assumed that Sidious was so adept at the Force and manipulation that he had managed to avoid the harshest of the training of a Sith. I used to think Sidious was adept at inflicting pain instead of being able to endure it himself.
    This also makes me rethink the Darth Vader comic in which a Kyber crystal mountain Sidious has in Exegol is constantly being tortured. Its powerful wailing of pain seems to have no effect on Sidious while Vader and everyone else is suffering in its presence.
    Was Sidious shielding himself with his powers or was he able to brush off the pain? The latter would make him even scarier than just showing his utter mastery of the Force.

  • @16csterling1
    @16csterling1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just truly dark intentions....and the way he was raised

  • @TheDevilofDallas666
    @TheDevilofDallas666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:22 and THAT is exactly why Jeremy Allen White should play young Palpatine...he's slimripped enough to make that believable. Plus the mouse can make the money off his muscles. HoHo.

  • @h61625
    @h61625 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would love a movie or set of movies that covered palpatine origins

  • @TheEmpressPalpatine
    @TheEmpressPalpatine หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Dark Side is what you grab on to when you are in a desperate and stuck spot.

  • @StefanWinchester
    @StefanWinchester 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Palpatine was evil from the start. All plaguies did was give palpatine permission to act and then palpatine manupulated and killed plaguies and had planned to from the very begining. "My teacher, yes and for that i will be eternally grateful but my master ? Never."- palpatine to plaguies

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He created Sidious, if Palpatine was never found he would just be an corrupt politician or not interfere at all with any conflict, Plagueis took Palpatine and molded his evil

    • @StefanWinchester
      @StefanWinchester 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Eric6761 Palpatine would've probably been a corrupt politician who benefitted plagueis either way. My point is that plaguies didn't make him evil he just just Palpatine the tools to unleash his evil

  • @shadowling77777
    @shadowling77777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Benis torture

  • @CsuarezFla
    @CsuarezFla 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Darth Pleguesis said that when he first felt Sidious power in the force it was like a void of nothingness and absolute emptiness. He was born without a soul.

  • @onsmoke7420
    @onsmoke7420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro, you ever thought about putting these on Spotify?

  • @nightwork63
    @nightwork63 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    He was born on a Republic world so how were the Jedi not aware of his force abilities at a young age

    • @JadusMoltriel
      @JadusMoltriel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He had a natural, innate ability to mask his Force power/ presence. It's very, very rare. When he became aware of this talent consciously, he fine-tuned it to a degree that he could sit in a room amongst the entire Jedi Council at their PEAK power, and not be detected by them in the slightest.
      As a child, he subconsciously manifested this masking ability, so the Jedi never knew. Otherwise, they would have taken him as an infact to be trained at the Jedi Temple, ESPECIALLY once they tested his blood and found out his midichlorian count was over 20,000, higher than anyone in history (until Anakin, who was around 27,000. He and Palpatine were the only ones to be over 20k. Yoda was around 17k, and his was the highest of the Jedi at the time, for perspective. And these are canon numbers from Lucas' SW before Disney btw, so no, Disney didn't have anything to do with the midichlorian numbers.)

  • @forestgrumpy119
    @forestgrumpy119 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When’s the next compilation man? 😂

  • @GreatFox42
    @GreatFox42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I wouldn't give to grab all the resurrected spirits of Baninite Sith and just put them all into one room to see what happens.

  • @mikothornelius8557
    @mikothornelius8557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice, thx!

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pain builds strength and character .

  • @user_miike
    @user_miike 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    man i thought you said you were gonna continue bringing the archivist back what happened

  • @TheCastellan
    @TheCastellan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always say, Sidious looks a lot like Geroge Soros, though no withered mummy make up needed for him.

  • @michaelkarimian7538
    @michaelkarimian7538 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do the vitiate video next would love to hear your thoughts.

  • @TotalTech2.
    @TotalTech2. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:41
    2:53
    3:03

  • @jaredquinney204
    @jaredquinney204 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really was curious about this

  • @WoKEWoRLdMAdNess
    @WoKEWoRLdMAdNess 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watch Everest Productions Darth Plagueis movie!!! It's absolutely incredibly done and fully based on the book. They released the first half, and it was two hours long. I can't wait for the second half because it really is that good. Anyone who's a fan should definitely check it out. It's done in computer animated, video game, looking form. It's honestly one of the most brilliantly done fan made Star Wars films I've ever seen and a must-see for any true fan.

  • @sangyemaitreya
    @sangyemaitreya 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video x.

  • @mattpadilla6952
    @mattpadilla6952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What has he done that makes him the most powerful sith that's ever lived.

  • @robertagu5533
    @robertagu5533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Clever of Plageuis... Teaching Sideous by MAKING him HATE his teacher. So that he'd LEARN an teach him to be vicious an hateful an all about pain, what it is, an then how to use it.. perhaps even to make Palpatine regret what he'd done an suffer for it too a bit

    • @Force_user57
      @Force_user57 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Regret and guilt are useless to the sith.Idk where you pulling that from, didnt you watch the video ???

    • @robertagu5533
      @robertagu5533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Force_user57 Sith are often hypocritical.. Do you NOT know Sith in Star Wars. They're also VERY VERY much driven by emotions. ESPECIALLY Painful ones an Darker ones. Hence the whole fuel and points of the "Darkside" where'd you think it came from. It's not JUST a good n Evil thing. Passion an "in the moment" sorta Darkness works JUST AS well as long term, cultivated an distilled hate, malice an rage.. you think Sideous was gonna survive on being nice an thinking warm thoughts??? That WEAKENS Sith an this was PALPATINE/SIDEOUS we're talking about here. He may know what it is or of it but he'd rather die then let it drive him. In the moment one can "regret" something an use that. That inspires Anger an hate in THOSE situations fueling him to push past an survive... Or not an give in or Die possibly if he was found too weak an too lacking enough to not save otherwise. It's part of what the Sith do

  • @caitsidhe4560
    @caitsidhe4560 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    most powerful - pile of ancient sith ghosts rofling :D

  • @shoxx48
    @shoxx48 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plaguies for the win!

  • @Darthraion
    @Darthraion 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about Kursid? That was some pretty insane training

  • @fishermansfriend6726
    @fishermansfriend6726 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    low gravity world called buoyant is kinda funny to me lol

  • @OrangedinoTrexBundle
    @OrangedinoTrexBundle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which one of the 7 lightsaber forms did General Grievous use Mostly and which is the one he uses less?

  • @josehenriquez2249
    @josehenriquez2249 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the name of the animated show playing on the background?

  • @eugenegans4549
    @eugenegans4549 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do a video what if anakin choked and killed padme and had a duel with obi wan in front of the separatist leaders and what if the separatist leaders survives to see the Death Star and darth Vader

  • @Darkmatter105
    @Darkmatter105 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm still pissed off we didn't get plagius in the sequels.

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same 😢

    • @davemccrudden1999
      @davemccrudden1999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Acolyte though.

    • @jesuspernia8031
      @jesuspernia8031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davemccrudden1999
      No. Trash.

  • @darrion2591
    @darrion2591 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only this I noticed you said that death plaguies taught him all 7 forms. But wouldn’t it be only 6 forms because Mace Windu created form 4 much later in Palpatines life

  • @douglasfoley2060
    @douglasfoley2060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:01 cultivate???……..how if they’re both mono black or racdos???…….

  • @jockpackage1770
    @jockpackage1770 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, Zannah had to do a lighter version of Ezra's animal friend training only to cook them after. Yep, bring back this animal, that's naturally cagey, willingly back to me... Surprise we're cooking it. Sith don't bond with others, we manipulate them.
    Oh so exar Kun used drain life too?
    Plagueis using near death from an extreme environment to train Palpatine is kind of like Darth Sion, by having his apprentice call upon the dark side to survive and using his suffering to do so.
    Weeks without sleep, food, and water would be another feet that would require the dark side to survive. On top of the weather of the planet, these are not things that are possible for humans.
    "Hmm yes Darth Sion, I kind of like him. I think I'll make you into that... No, you have to be a political figure someday so that's not the best move."
    The battle droid training is rather silly when you think about how pathetic the ywere against mere Jedi knights. This is said like it's waves of droids for a total of 200 battle droids. Let's assume this took a while and had a bunch of waves, like 10, so that's 20 ish droids a wave. That's it? Ahsoka death with worse lol.
    Plagueis seeing the old Sith as just "of the past" is interesting in how it contrasts with Darth Traya's view that, even back then, they were but children playing with toys compared to the old masters.