A Deep Dive on The Worst Reality Show Ever Made...(Its Horrible)
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A Deep Dive Into The Worst Reality Show Ever Made - Netflix's ULTIMATUM
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This😳 was the longest, toughest, worst sanity sucking video I have ever done. Dont ever say i dont love you guys,
Thanks for your sacrifice loool - on the road to 500k woooo
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Whoa 2 hours!? Nicee
I stop fappin just to watch the release of you bud Leo
Thank you for taking this one for the team ❤ I really needed this tonight 🙏. Had me laughing out loud 😆 sitting here by myself lol
"Physical intimacy is a BIG part of the relationship".
So is CONSENT Madylyn.
Lol
*sexual anorexia has entered the chat *
She is such a huge red flag, nothing like guilt tripping people into sex🚩🚩🚩
@@natashanichole1027 wtf is that 💀
@@Itsselis no fr what is that..
The mentality that marriage *automatically* just fixes all relationship problems is a big factor as to why divorce rates are so high (imo)
There are psychological and sociological statistics that back up your claim. *A lot* of people think marriage will fix everything and then that marriage comes crashing down, usually very quickly.
Also, people aren't talking about real issues and standing by their deal breakers (i.e. kids or no kids). I know people who didn't discuss or had opposing views to their spouse and are having issues bc one of them wants kids. My brother and his wife struggled to have children and went through IVF which was super expensive, then had the next baby w/o IVF. I went to visit them and I was exhausted bc the kids do not let up ever. I woke up at 6 am to my nephew leaning over me as I slept. I played with him and fed him so my brother and his wife could sleep in (the baby was still asleep). It's a big deal to have kids and both people have to be on the same page about it.
@@chembiz i’m sorry but waking up to a child hovering over me as i slept is my personal hell. unfortunately for the kid, my quick reflexes probably would’ve (at the very least) kicked him away out of fear and sheer confusion. kids are so weird & it’s good to know ahead of time wether you’d want them or not.
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@@positivevibesveda I gasped when I woke up bc his face was close to mine. My nephew then said, "Hi auntie." I totally get what you're saying, that's why people need to have the kid convo and not try to change the other person's mind. Nate and Lauren decided they'd have 1 kid as a compromise. Don't know how or if that's going to work out.
I was married for 26 years, we never fought. We had the odd niggle that lasted for probably 5 minutes and after half an hour or so someone would ask the other if they wanted a tea or coffee and life went on.
I'll never marry again as I'd never find another husband as perfect as he was. He was taken from me 3 years ago with cancer. He was my soulmate
that is beautiful ❤️
It sounds like you two had a wonderful relationship. I’m so sorry for your loss.
I'm so sorry for your loss, I'm glad you were able to meet your soulmate
Sending big hugs and thank you for your beautiful words 🙏
It's nice you were able to meet the person meant for you.
Alexis looks like handsome squidward and she walks around like she’s the sexiest person ever.. I honestly feel like she expected people to think she was the hottest person on the planet and when no one wanted her as a partner she was like “ok well.. I love Randall anyways because no one else wants me”
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Handsome, badly designed, toxic squidward.
Not trying to lecture, but I do think there's plenty to critique about Alexis without bringing her appearance into it. Like, maaaaybe criticise based on a person's choices. They don't choose how they look. Obviously, you're completely entitled to do as you like, this was just food for thought.
@@kiracarver988 actually she did choose how she looks
@@cleobinx yeah, her nose doesn't look at all natural, but maybe it's just me idk 💀
The fact that Randall looks like such an outstandingly great guy in this show just by being a normal person is hilarious
So true 😂
It is amazing how far just being a normal person will get you in comparison to reality show personalities
@@laurenmclane7710 hard in her :o
@@laurenmclane7710 oh I bet he was very hard in her
@@laurenmclane7710 should've kept that "in" in
Shanique seems like the person who's really good at identifying other people's problems but when it comes to her own she completely blind spots.
Sounds like allot of people
I agree because I can relate to her 😭
Takes one to know one!
That sounds like me! I’m trying to work on it 😂
she also happens to gaslight, manipulate, fake-cry and is self-absorbed.... but hopefully she really did learn and is trying to change.
then again, so was April.
This is the most toxic thing ever, none of these people should be marrying each other and half of them genuinely need therapy.
Ten outta ten.
Everyone needs therapy.
I’d be astonished if any of them actually make it 3 more years together. Beyond their obvious self-absorbed narcissism, marriage is tough enough without all these doubts and infidelities right off the bat. Sad. I can’t even imagine treating my SO this way
I mean, anyone contemplating this show for anything other than a tiny paycheck or acting gig should contemplate therapy. And that’s not an insult
😂😂😂 tell us how you really feel
@@cabobo1600no lol Maybe everyone could benefit from it, but there are plenty of people who don’t need it.
My parents disagreed on kids too. Obviously, the kid wanted won. My Mom DID love us and is glad she had us, and so am I-but it wasn’t like, the best childhood ever being raised by a woman who didn’t like kids in general and was always mad at us for being…kids. And depressed because she didn’t really like the Mom thing.
It’s a weird relationship and I have complicated feelings. She’s way better with us as adults. I’m glad I exist. But still. Maybe not ideal.
I think about things like that so often. It's good your mother loved you, and you have a good relationship with your mom, and I'm very happy for you that that's the case. But generally it should be understood that if you don't want kids, you shouldn't have kids, because it has the potential to really screw things up for them.
@@mikchimin I agree totally. But kids come into the world in less than ideal circumstances all the time. I'm supportive of people who don't want children, but I also HATE the way the childfree community talks about kids. It'd be nice if we could just be supportive of each other and kid loving (even if we're not kid liking, if that makes sense). I have three. I feel blessed to have wanted kids and been able to have them and to be in the exact circumstance I desired. Not everyone is so lucky. Life is messy all of the time. We don't always get to pick our own messes.
@@andianderson3017 that is very true, and I didn't really mean it in an all or nothing sense, so I'm very sorry it came off as that way. I mean more in the circumstances of something like compromising with a partner who wants kids who doesn't want kids themselves. Obviously things do happen, and when that is the case, it's the parents' responsibility above all else to love and raise that kid correctly. I'm just happy to see we're shifting away from societal pressure, and the expectation that you should have kids, even if you don't want them. The world is not black and white, and I believe above all else children should be the most important thing in any argument regarding the situation. Though I don't like kids personally, it's never my intention to be adamantly against them, or any situation in which someone who initially doesn't want kids. I know it's hard to generalize something like this and it was my bad. It just sometimes feels difficult to be a woman who doesn't want kids in a society where settling down and having kids is still the norm, so sometimes my frustration shines through my words, and that's something I need to work on. Overall, I do believe we're on the same side of the opinion, and I do hope and your kids have a wonderful day :)
I’m an unwanted child too!!!! I’m sorry for your experience and I resonate with you. My mom and I actually don’t have a relationship. She spent my entire life saying, “I didn’t want y’all, your daddy did” now we don’t speak. And I’m closer to my father. Isn’t she pissed? I’m simply fulfilling those wishes. She didn’t spend time with us in our childhood, and truthfully I don’t have many memories of her. I went to therapy b/c she worked a number on me. Couldn’t even get into a healthy relationship b/c of my mommy issues. I pray you were able to work through yours!! ❤
no fr. my mom didn’t want kids, and now she has 3. i’m almost an adult, and i’ve noticed since i was like 13ish she’s treated me better. she just didn’t want to raise children. and i can see why; she’s a middle school teacher💀
That blonde girl is crazy he never called her unattractive he just said he wasn't attracted to her.
I think it's just projection...she probably has low self-esteem but pretends like she doesn't just to react like this bc someone doesn't find her attractive
And it was too much for her! 😄
@@PrivateMrs.T Does Mrs.T pitty this fool? Lol
Definitely insecurity twisting his words
She can’t believe someone she’s interested in wouldn’t be interested
Hmm... I think the worst reality TV show ever made was The Swan from 2004, where women went through several massive plastic surgery procedures and competed on a pageant based on who became the "prettiest". That show was VILE!
But this one seems really bad too.
That is so weird i just thought about that show!!!
Bruh this was the exact one I thought up in my head, along with the race switching show lol
Leo might can react to that show if we recommend it… it sounds horrible wonder what happened to the participants in that show?
I feel a similar way towards "Revenge Body". I just don't like it because people were trying to get healthy and in shape only to spite someone in their lives, obviously most often an ex. Not to mention it was hosted by Khloe Kardashian. And as much as I sympathize with Khloe without being a Kardashian fan, it's unfair to have her act as a role model when we know she has access to means and methods that common folk doesn't.
@@capnknuckies6969 The... the what???
My girlfriend and I watched the entire season and my god. This was probably the 1st ever reality that I rooted for no one. But if there’s a next season, we’ll definitely watch it
It's like the train wreck you can't look away haha
The secondhand embarrassment I felt through this show was IMMACULATE
😂😂
So cool haha
What service did you watch it from?
The ultimatum is a television masterpiece. Haven't you ever wanted to see two people in a relationship talk almost exclusively about how they don't want each other and are falling in love with someone else after 8 days??
A few episodes in I would have listened to people trashing Colby all day! But I can't believe the two WORST guys ended up getting their way. 😭This show was more depressing than fun.
This was horrible!!! 😂😂😂
As a photographer one of the weddings I worked at I was with the groom and groomsmen doing a photo shoot. The groom seemed really not into it. I tried to make conversation by asking ,”so what made you pop the question ?” He said that he was given a choice at 2 years dating. “she said marry me or we are done” and then chugged a pitcher of beer. Yeahhhh super awkward
2 years that's crazy. I've known my fiancé for 7 years (dating for 3) and I was still surprised when he asked me.
So he was the real-life embodiment of Bradley Cooper in He’s Just Not That Into You. 😂 Jeez… what a mess.
He should have bailed.. at 2 years risking half of everything you have is a bad bet.. and honestly if she cared about him she wouldn't have done that. Poor bastard.
Riiigghhtttt
@@Vaga-Bard I agree he should have left, but I think either partner has the right to say, "I need to know whether this relationship is leading to marriage because that's a priority of mine, and if it's not I don't want to stay in it."
this show was so terrible in so many ways, but i think instead of having young slim 20 something people who have been dating for 2 years at most, maybe they could have had people in their mid 30s and have been dating for more than a decade, which would have made a waaaay better show and more genuine and interesting
I thought that’s what this show was gonna be 😭
Nah
I was genuinely thinking that! Like 20 somethings have no idea who they are as a person let alone what they want in a partner. But putting 30+ somethings who ave been dating a decade or more without any hint of marriage or leaving the other spouse would have proved more interesting and actually, oddly enough, more realistic. They had only been dating a year or two, these young people have no idea what life has to offer. My aunt has been dating her on and off again boyfriend for more than a decade and wants to marry him (no idea why) and he is very wishy washy. They break up for a time then end up back together because they are both equally terrible people in different ways. In my honest opinion, neither of them should marry each other and could just continue on as they are. My aunt is in her fifties and her boyfriend I believe is around the same age.
Ha! That's me. Excellent comment..
That is a terrific idea! But the thing is the stakes would be genuinely really high then. When you have 10 years invested in a relationship and you turned to your partner and say where is this going and the answer you get isn't the answer you hoped for... that is some serious drama! And some truly life changing decisions would be made in that scenario. It would be great to watch but might actually be cruel to the contestants. (Stakes that high and potentially devastating honestly also might make it great to watch so I kinda hate myself now.)
I love how Alexis wanted Colby, got rejected, and NOW she's so absolutely in love with her partner
Exactly!! 🤣
And Colby is the devil👹
Really shows u how 90% of ppl get stuck with each other
She’s not in love with him. She’s playing him even harder now cus she now sees she probably can’t get anyone else with that attitude.
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I hate when men get called gentlemen, for not taking advantage of a drunk person. We shouldn't give praise for the bare minimum. It would be great if not doing that was the norm.
That wont happen for awhile yet, least its changing defiantly since i was a teen.. ppl would boast if the slept wit someone that was too drunk to remember, they would say oh she was so drunk falling around passing out etc, then they fu#k her and laugh about it, commenting she was like a sack off potatoes. Oh it used to be disgusting and the norm, the word consent didn't exist, yoi were just a drung wh#re and thats it.. men chasing girls that were that drung, i stopped a couple off incidents in my time when i seen the girl too drunk and the guy sober trying to take them away
What if both are drunk, the man is stronger he should know better?
@@oranebrown2169 that's a tough one, there's no black and white with these situations n
@@oranebrown2169 what are you saying?? that drunk men can take advantage of women??
That was a thing in the 1950s. Unfortunately you won’t find a lot of people like that now….
the second proposal was the nuttiest insecurity impulse decision I've ever seen
Right?! He literally only proposed bc he didn't want her to choose Colby 🙄 So stupid and idk why the hell she said yes
@@heezypeasy8611 I think more so it was because noone chose him. If he'd been chosen by someone else and then Cody chose her he wouldn't have minded. He was LIVID that he thought he was being left unpicked
Totally just locked her down now to (probably) get her pregnant later. Red flags galore.
It's such a messed up show tbh, basically pushing people to get together and marry cause they're insecure and don't want their partner with someone else having a good time or possibly moving on from them. It's insane like who even makes a show like this lol. Reality TV is such a mess but it's hilarious. Also Alexis went and married her original partner cause Colby denied her and was left with no one cause she's actually unattractive.
creep just doesn't like to lose...what a D ick!
I dated a guy once who used to go through my phone and stuff- nothing ever there. Should have been a red flag for me. Guy had MAJOR insecurity and jealously issues because he cheated in a past relationship and kept telling me he felt karma would get him one day. Yeah, when I left you for being a psycho.
Had a girlfriend that did the same, hell my phone practically became hers. She also would say I was flirting with cashiers because I said "hi, how are you" or "hi, how is your day going" said that to both guys and chicks same tone of voice and eye contact
A lot of people are shit, not a man thing nor a woman thing. It's a human trait
Not always but often people who are accusing someone of cheating are often cheating themselves. I don't know why this is usually the case. Experienced this myself. It's like the more insecure they are the more they feel better about themselves to have a side chick or guy, but also having a guilty conscience. Like, telling themselves you're doing it or something else wrong to, so "I'm justified in my actions."
I had a boyfriend who would do the same thing, but it was long distance. He said he wasn’t comfortable with me hanging out with my male friend, and reasoned it by saying that he was the male friend of a girl and she cheated on her bf with him, and now he has trust issues because of that. Like… sir you did the bad thing??!!
My ex would do this too! Nothing was ever there, but he would always twist a reason to get pissed if a guys name ever popped up on my phone. He even cussed out a gay guy for talking to me! He broke up with me and told all his friends(including my brother) I cheated after I saw an old friend at school and he messaged me later on facebook mentioning us meeting. My ex wasn't even on my phone for that, he literally hacked my facebook regularly from his home computer and would yell at me over the things I said(or just things said TO me). He then came back 2 weeks later crying over what a mistake he made and was dumbfounded when I absolutely refused to get back with him. Thankfully my current SO has never once asked to see my phone and is completely fine with me hanging out with people of any gender. I resent that my own family still believes lies, but it is what it is.
I think Colby sucks for how he acted like cheating on Madelyn was a kind act for the betterment of their relationship (and also somehow her fault??). But Madelyn being so incredibly pushy about Randall sleeping with her and getting all whiny and cagey when he said no was so icky. Maybe y’all deserve each other.
He didn't cheat, they weren't together, that's the whole point of the show
i was suspicious of colby from the start! he was a little too perfect, yanno?
How did he cheat?
Lets all just be happy they took eachother off the singles market😅
colby didn't cheat??
This show could've been over so fast if they just paired them up with a pre marriage counselor. The goal is to ask the hard questions and essentially see if the couple is ready to get married. Clearly none of the couples are. There is no need to rush marriage.
Now that’s something I’d watch. I’d watch a pre-marriage counselor set these people right.
My brother and his wife before they got married, my brother felt he wasn't ready to marry until he felt he was making enough money for both of them if for any reason she couldn't work. He finally did and they both eventually became homeowners. They were together 5 years until my brother finally popped the question and both are living happily together.
I swear these reality shows are like: "Let's get the most toxic people together in the world and put them on a show together!"
And yes I'd like to see you react to the reunion.
Well normal non toxic people would do crazy things like communicate their issues like adults, attend couples therapy or better yet not sign up for these shows in the first place and thats not nearly enough drama to create the trainwrecks that keep people watching
I mean what non toxic person would even agree to a show like this? Dating shows are one thing but this they are agreeing to essentially swap partners to see if they better match others which is itself inherently unhealthy for a relationship.
My GOD that's such a long time to dedicate to such a terrible show. Thank you for the video! This will help me get through packing my house up!
That’s what I’m doin right now, too! It sucks! Lol What else you listenin to?
One thing I will say about Shanique is that when it came to other people including Zay (even when they had disagreements) she would remain relatively level headed and wouldn't go off yelling or screaming. She was very insightful when she gave him the advice about using his past issues as a crutch. She even took Madelyn's taunting in great stride. But when she was with Randall it's like she just completely loses her ability to act maturely.
knowing how these shows work, it was probably a director choice to try and make her and randall look like an awful couple
Well they might be meant to be. See, she can truly let go and just be herself with him. 😅😂😅
I have a sister in a toxic relationship rn and she is like that with her boyfriend especially drunk
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Madelyn has a drinking problem. I'm saying this as someone who struggled with using alcohol as an escape when I was in a miserably abusive relationship. I'm not saying she's in one but she's CLEARLY miserable with Colby and they're terrible together.
Actually all of them are miserable together. It's crazy.
I thought the exact same thing about her, she was drunk for at least half the scenes, and the only time i felt like Colby was actually a good partner was when he took her glass away
I mean they met at a bar... I'd believe she had a drinking problem before even meeting colby
She definitely has a drinking problem but she's also a pretty terrible person who tried to get with someone else hard and then crawled back her actual boyfriend when she got knocked back.
Update: what the fuck just happened at the end
I also went through and abusive relationship and colby gives those vibes a lot hes like scary and gaslighty deep down. At first i thought he was chill and as the show kept going just reminded me more and more of my ex
She’s an alcoholic and loves sex, two personality traits that are dangerous as hell to have. Even if she is happily with a person, technically under the law the sex she’d have would be rape if she was drunk. Messy, messy, dangerous behavior, not just for her but for her partner.
I understand Alexis. She’s tall, skinny, and blonde and that’s 70% of her identity so of course it’s the biggest attack on her ego for a guy to express that he’s not attracted to her. Imagine going your entire life never getting your way because a few physical attributes make you the type of every man you’ve ever encountered until now. Many women don’t want to be fetishized because of what they look like but she really gets off on it.
not 70% 😂 😭 😭 ☠️
Not being mean but she’s totally distorted her face w filler. 😩
but Alexis is not even attractive and she looks 3 times older than her actual age
more like 95%😒😑
Shes goofy looking
Colby and Madlyn belong together - if only to save everyone else from having to accidentally end up on a date with the two worst people on Earth.
Like Raava and Vaatu- they must battle each other for the rest of time for the sake of all humanity.
Did i just make a Legend of Korra reference on a video about a dating show in 2022? yes I did...
"It was very good of God to let Carlyle and Mrs. Carlyle marry one another, and so only make two people miserable and not four."
-Samuel Butler about his friends Thomas Carlyle and Jane Welsh Carlyle
I don't you met a lot of people if you think they are "bad" "the worst" 😂😂😂😂
I hope she keeps that 'best friend' too so nobody has to deal with that shit. Seems like the type to turn and hook up with Colby after they're over 🤣
@@dannieon I hate Raava & Vaatu mythos, but so i do hate Colby & Madlyn, so it fits perfectly Bravo! ahsuohasouhaosuhas
As a general rule, if you need to give any ultimatum just take the "failure" option.
And if anyone gives you an ultimatum you probably need to cut them loose.
I don’t think every single ultimatum is absolutely cursed and could never be a good relationship. Say someone has been dating for 10 years and still isn’t married (given they’re not a same sex relationship) I would understand an ultimatum. It’s easy to look at relationship black and white like that but that’s not how all relationships work, if any.
@@magicallydelicious1673 10 years and not married? You know the answer already.
@@magicallydelicious1673 yeah so you described the exception.. and that isn't the rule..
The rule is, if someone gives you an ultimatum they probably don't care the way they should.. and considering divorce means losing half your sh*t you should immediately cut em loose.. otherwise there's a 90% chance your losing half your sh*t and your kids. Depending on how wild the woman is it could be worse than that. 50% and the kids is the minimum.. doesn't include child support, medical bills, court battles for visitations and so on..
The general rule is correct. The exception to the rule is exactly that. The exception..
Congrats tho. I was with my wife 8 years before we got married, Ben 4 years since then..
I don't think there's a problem with an ultimatum if the person delivering it genuinely means what they say. They should've never made it to the show. If any of them were serious about their ultimatums, they would've broken up a few minutes after they were issued and the other partner didn't comply. I think, is it "do Xyz or I'm leaving"...sort of like a boundary, or is it "I want you to do Xyz so I'll threaten to leave as manipulation"???
The show is definitely the manipulation option.
@@Pistonrager The real question is, what does marriage mean to that couple? If you've been together for ten years and haven't signed a piece of paper that promises them to eachother... what does that piece of paper give you that you don't already have? Some stupidly expensive party? Buy a house with that wedding money as the deposit and call it a day.
So my partner and I have a healthy, non toxic, adult relationship and we achieve this by not going on TV and sleeping with other people but to each their own.
Same here. But i can understand how some people might find a long term normal relationship boring after a while and resort to the thrill of having affairs .. im not proud but i used to be like that when i was maybe 15
Marriage doesn’t solve anything. I realized on my honeymoon in Ireland that I had just compounded our problems by letting myself be pushed into it. Three years later we were divorced and absolutely hated one another.
It's like having kids to "save the relationship"
@@Hanna-bh6tk or staying together for a kid. Always ends bad.
I’m SO pro-marriage! I’m 22 years old, and I would love to eventually get married one day. I want a healthy and long marriage like my parents have. That being said, I rather die alone than have to give a man or woman an ultimatum to get them to marry me. That’s not true love.
Well said. And good luck. It's rough dating nowadays. From what I hear. I'm married. And I don't envy you single peeps. Marriage is a partnership that requires 100 of both if you. Amd remember that the fire of love dims, but it's your duty to each other to find the wood and set it ablaze again.
Marriage is a big decision and People like the ones in the shoe blow my mind. I’ve always wanted to get married. (Am now) my husband and I met 19 and 21 (1.5 year difference) and we dated 4.5 years engaged 2. I think that’s a good time line for people in there 20s. Cause you get to know the person really well and your brain gets fully developed at some point.
Exactly! No one should beg for a proposal/marriage. The other person should want to marry you. I would much rather wait for the person to be ready or move on if they say they don't want to. Why would you want to marry someone you forced to marry you? Doesn't make sense to me
@@miffedcuttlefish6139 Dating is truly awful. I had a guy ask me if I wanted to hold (see?) his sausage (I can't remember). I wasn't talking about sex, I was talking about volunteering at a dog rescue and how we either get underweight dogs or fat dogs that look like sausages. I let him know I wasn't interested and that kind of talk, then he tried again and I was done with him.
Trust me from someone with six years extra experience all it takes is dating the wrong crazy to burn all aspirations of hooking up.
Alternative title for The Ultimatum: Put your already on-the-rocks relationship at an even greater risk for some garbage TV show that encourages cheating
These relationships are unstable! Let’s hit them with an earthquake!
Or because it's someone else!
RIGHT this show made me feel so gross
The one couple I know that got married because of an ultimatum had the most painful and awkward divorce. It’s a bad idea. If YOU are unwilling to wait, YOU leave. Don’t put that decision on them.
A year or even two really isn’t that long to be so up in arms about “marry me or leave!”
It’s definitely a topic that should have come up seriously but like, chill, just enjoy all the time spent with the other person. Hell, I’m ten years into a relationship(got engaged last year)and I’m still learning new things or hearing new stories from my guys life.
You could be together 50 years and still learn new things about your significant other.
Exactly....2 years, in the larger scheme of things, is not that much time
That’s great for y’all. For me, 2 years is definitely too long!!!!
@@juliekennedy9891 same. Honestly I want to get married young but I also don't want him to be like a sadist and I find out only after we're married. Lmao
@@pussydestroyer69285 Yeah, I won’t be young. I am 40 and that is part of why I don’t feel like waiting that long for marriage.
Also, I am putting a ton of prayer into my partnership and only marrying the person who God leads me to-so I have no worries!😀😀😀
Yeah. That just seems like a really good way to ruin an otherwise wonderful relationship. Although something tells me that none of these couples were at any risk of doing that lol
To be fair, it's been a long ,long time since marriage was "a commitment for life". It's more a "commitment until we get bored or things become routine, or you chew too loudly".
Speaking for myself, my husband and I moved in 6 months after we began dating, and married the following year. We were together for 43 years, until his death in 2020. Both of us were on the same page all down the line. I have to laugh at these people. My husband and I had rough patches over the decades that lasted longer than some marriages! But the marriage and friendship was our top priority and I'd do it all again.
I adore you, Leo! You will make someone a wonderful husband.
That's really lovely Valerie. And I completely agree. I'm sorry about the passing of your Husband. My nan and grandad got married after 6 weeks of knowing eachother, and were together for 36 years before my nan passed. I don't necessarily think everyone is going to have such smooth sailing, especially in cases where people just grow apart. However, if my generation were more patient when it came to love, I think people's long term happiness would be much better off. Everything's such a race.
Kind of defies the point. Marriage basically exists to make ending the relationship difficult, lol. If you don't plan to be with someone forever, never marry them.
@@cosmo588 I never understood the "grow apart" thing. Like okay just grow back together then. U fell out of love? Just fall back in love again. Especially if u made a lifetime VOW to be with that person forever. I know it's easier said than done but if both ppl are focused on the marriage part then work hard guys come on. Especially if u have kids. The only time I'd say divorce is ok is cheating, lying, abuse, the other person doesn't try and just ignores u meanwhile you're trying your hardest, and sever neglect. Otherwise why would u leave?
@@pussydestroyer69285 of course parents should try to do their best to work things out if they’re having troubles. Unless it’s abuse, cheating etc. as you said. Then it’s necessary to leave. However, if you haven’t personally fallen out of love with someone and grown apart, you can’t understand what it’s like. Maybe it’s possible for some people to rekindle their former emotional attraction, but sometimes the best decision for both parties is to go your seperate ways. I don’t think anyone should feel shamed for wanting a divorce if they feel it’s the best decision, unless of course it’s for financial gain or something very selfish. That’s a whole other convo. But regardless, I think it does more harm then good to shame people into staying in unhappy relationships.
Colby was disgusting because he took credit for "April becoming a woman." Madlyn problematic but her point was valid AF.
ew....
This!
Babe is he ok lmaoo what did he even mean
@@shirin9452 probably "took her virginity" or some bs like that 😅 I'm also confused
@@Rebesag she wasn’t a virgin lmfaoooo not by any means, she talked a lot about how much unprotected sex she and Jake had. I think it’s actually just Colby’s inability to grasp the English language, he’s shown it before. I think he was trying to say being around him brought out a deeper and more mature side of April and kind of made her grow and come into her own. Sigh. Reading is free kids 💀
What all these people seem to forget is after the wedding comes the rest of your life.If you are already miserable and bitchy together it says you're in for a horrible life. Being married is not always roses and sunshine. If you're not sure don't bother. Get a cat.
Look, I’m a strict monogamist. I never really “dated” around because in my personal view, I’m either going to end up breaking up with this person or marrying them, so if I can’t see myself marrying someone someday then I won’t pursue it. But I make this very clear at the beginning. If they don’t feel the same I’m fine with that, I don’t judge anyone for how they do relationships or how they feel about marriage. My husband doesn’t care much about marriage, he loves me to pieces so for him a piece of paper isn’t as real as our actual relationship, so he was perfectly fine with marrying me so I can stay in Germany with him (I’m from the US, we met online.) We've been together four years, and living together for two, and everything is perfect. Why? We communicate EVERYTHING. He knew from the beginning how I felt about marriage, no ultimatums have ever been necessary.
My point is, if you’re into marriage, make that clear. You’re causing your own relationship problems by not being clear about your intentions and then threatening them when you don’t get your way (which you clearly never communicated your way in the first place.) A marriage started with a threat is never going to last.
I was thinking this the entire time. Obviously they weren’t truthful from the beginning
This is so true. My husband and I dated for only four months before we decided to get married, and that was because we went into it expecting to figure out if we could do it. We didn't date to date, but rather dated to see if we were the spouse for each other. We talked about expectations, wants, needs, hopes, our own personal successes and failures, and when we raised that everything aligned perfectly we knew that it was set. Here we are three years later and already outlasted all of my friends' marriages, when they are the ones that dated for 5 or 6 years!!!
You have a great head on your shoulders, I completely agree with you. I wish more girls my age in their mid-twenties would have the same mindset. I’ve been with my partner for 1.5 yrs and going into it we were both honest about what we wanted.
@@MyNameHere101 my bf of almost 4 months is moving in and we got a puppy. We are moving fast but it doesn't feel that way when we communicate everything. It helps when you know what you do/don't want and lay your boundaries from the very beginning.
@@GlitterC8k Exactly! If you can come out of an argument better understanding each other then that's a great sign. We argue and then we ask each other "What is YOUR perspective" and learn so much about each other. At this point we can now completely know each other's side without asking and we can say "I'm mad, and I'm going to allow myself to be mad for a few minutes, but I know you're perspective and I don't think you're wrong." And then after just a couple minutes it's like the argument never happened.
My coworker said he met Nick Lachey when he worked at a radio station. He said he was a total jerk to him within the first two minutes of meeting him. He also said Nick's wife was a saint.
Sounds about right
kids vs no kids attempt at relationship always triggers in me a sort of primal rage. there was a guy who was trying to get with me for YEARS (despite my telling him flat out I wasn't interested in him) and one of (his) hang ups was him wanting kids and me not only not wanting kids (I don't like kids sorry) but wanting even less to be pregnant. he tried SO HARD to change my mind about kids.
I don't know why this guy was so damn invested. he kept trying to say he was in love with me, despite getting frustrated with several of my core personality traits. like, dude, when are you going to realize that you're not in love with me, you're in love with YOUR IDEA of me. christ. this dude knew me in friggin middle school and whenever he tried to ask me out and I turned him down he would turn to my best friend standing RIGHT NEXT TO ME and ask her out. so glad he finally lost contact with me.
Had an ex admit he was hoping he could change my mind and he constantly disrespected any reasons I came up with on why I didn't want kids, and he never took my real reason seriously being that I never felt the desire to and I simply don't want them. Like damn.
I hope uve blocked him. That's basically harassment. I'd would have taken a restraining order on him honestly. Like no is no man
@@umiusagiseabunny9023 this was before most social medias. Like, Myspace era, and I never had one of those. (TH-cam didn't even exist when we were in highschool.) He didn't have my phone number, and we've both moved states since then. (Multiple times, in my case.)
I really hate when people go through the LONG process, of their OWN choosing, to get on a show, only to act like they don't know what the show is about!?! Just DON'T sign up then! Plus, you shouldn't need to FORCE your partner into doing the show! 🙄🤦 This show is exactly like "Temptation Island"! 🙄
Yes! This! I immediately thought of Temptation Island when I heard the term "worst reality show". I would pay for Leo to cover Temptation Island, this is a trash festival
There might be a lack of communication from what the show is about while applying because they want to show to be a surprise when it releases. But you'd think by the time they're on the show they'd know. I don't watch a lot of these shows but it's a pet peeve
I know people who produce these shoes. One, when they cast the show, it hasn't been shot. They pitch it in a way that will draw people in to participate. Two, once they shoot the show, only then do they know what the show will be. Three, they edit heavily, so the show you watch may not resemble anything like the original pitch. The original pitches get posted a lot to acting communities and they NEVER sound as crazy as they ultimately are.
Damn, I would have given Jake an F because he clearly used April's fertility issues as birth control. So they have unprotected sex which she says multiple times, she's clearly waiting for a "happy accident" so he'll actually step up, but he said he's not even financially ready. So why isn't he insisting on protection regardless? It just gives her false hope which we saw at the engagement. That's a cruel thing to do to a partner with those issues and desperately wants children. Jake is a 🤡
So even tho 2 people are going at it its just the guys fault. There's no issue with her trying to literally trap him?
This is why mgtow came along..
@@Vaga-Bard if the girl is clearly and transparently saying, I am not using birth control because I want a baby, and the guy doesnt use on protection, she has in no way trapped him.
She's clearly set her stall out and explained what she wants. That would be the equivalent of saying hello here is some alcoholic drinks that I have laid out for us to drink all night and we can get totally wasted, keep drinking till three in the morning etc, and then you being angry that you drank them and got drunk and got a hangover.
@@Vaga-Bard what lol
Lol women and their advanced scheming. “He gives her false hope by having unprotected sex with her because she wants a baby, and he’s using it, and he moves bishop to G5 and pawn to B4 and they’re both playing out scandinavian defense…”
Lady… dude just wants to fuck raw. That’s it.
@@Vaga-Bard She's not trapping him. She's not poking holes in the condoms. They're having unprotected sex and he's hoping she won't get pregnant because of her infertility issues, she's not infertile, there's still a risk and he's taking it.
Madlyn gives me the impression of being with a man just to have someone to come home to. She's not ready to settle down, but she doesn't want him to find someone else.
I think pre marriage counseling is a great thing. Especially with these couples. I think a lot would come out. Having marriage as an ultimatum after a year and half dating is crazy to me. Everyone is different but still. I mean I would understand if it was like 5 plus years but damn.
I think that even couples that are doing well should still see a pre marriage counselor. Its never wrong to be prepared and make sure you're actually ready even when you're happy.
Can we talk about how one of Madeleine’s friends straight up admitted that she hooked up with Colby during her interview and that never comes back up???!!!
Ugh I’m so glad I suffered this show through sixteenleo instead of actually watching it myself 😂☺️
Confessional moments for viewers to hear inner thoughts usually stay there and Madelyn prob discusses it w her irl/knows.
I took it as them hooking up before he was with Madeleine. Didn't seem like they were talking about cheating.
@@martinaasandersen3775 I did as well and read into their vibes that they've all joked about it before, they seem like that typa friend group! Not swingers just free loving.
If someone, anyone, gave me the ultimatum of marriage or breaking up and we’d been dating for less then 5 years - it’s an instant break up. Even if I was considering marrying that person, that ultimatum is reason enough for me to break up with them. Trying to force or coerce someone into marriage is never cool - and to be willing to give that ultimatum you’d have to already be checked out somewhat. Because the ultimatum-giver has already made the choice in their mind that breaking up is better then still dating that person. If that’s how you feel, let’s break up then.
I totally agree
Why are you making your partner wait 5 years. I literally have men from my country tell me never date American men because they make you wait too long. More than two years is too long.
This is so morally corrupt. Disgusting that "happily" married celebrities would create a show to try and ruin other people's relationships. And now that I think about it, if you have to go on this show....was it really a good union in the first place?!?!? But over all, very disturbing show. Thanks for the delightful commentary as always 😜 I'm totally binging your channel on my work hiatus rn 🤗
They didn’t create the show lol They were hired on as hosts
This show would make me super insecure about my relationship. Can you imagine the mindset teens would develop after watching this?!?!
i agree, treating marriage like something that Must happen in a relationship gets really stressful. kids gotta learn to live in the moment
That's the object, boo.
@@ixyc what's the point of dating, then? If you're not dating to find a potential life partner then your just hurting your chances of actually bonding with someone.
@@miffedcuttlefish6139 You can date someone for life without marriage though. Where I live its pretty normal not to get married but stay together for their lives.
@@jjdelft3216 okay. What's the rate that those domestic partnerships remain? Also what are the feelings from the children that are the products of those partnerships? I'm not asking to be a dick.🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's a genuine question. (InB4 someone wants to start getting booty bothered?
As a currently married person, with a lot of baggage, my husband and I made it a point to have every fight we needed to have before we got married. Not only did we get everything out in the open but we were able to decide if our differences were big enough to break us. Now, as a married couple, we almost never fight because we got it all out when we were dating. If one of us had dropped an ultimatum before the other was ready we would have been such a toxic couple, but we aren’t because we didn’t try to rush into anything. This show is so unhealthy
How did yall do that? Like whats some tips, if u dont mind
@@NeonGreenSpidey I mean, the best way to do it is to get everything out in the open. Once you have the conversation that you might want to get married, start being unapologetically open about things. Remember: if it’s a small problem while dating, marriage is only going to make it bigger. So have the tough conversations and don’t be afraid of fighting about it. It’s better, of course, to keep the conversation calm so you can talk things through. That’s why we established ground rules. Ours best one was a code phrase that basically meant “I am getting too angry to talk rationally, we need to pause this conversation until I calm down”. I think we used something random, like “pomegranate”. Whatever rules you decide, you need to stick to.
There’s more I’m sure but that’s what I remember off the top of my head. Hope this helps!
Sorry, but Colby deserves a worse grade. He’s the living image of a Nice guy
Colby the type of dude that starts hitting burning man in his mid thirties
He does gas light her as well. I gotta say there is a reason she drinks so much.
@@SEVENTEENPOINT1 the bitch Is trash as well they’re made for each other
He told you he wasn’t attracted to you too, hu? Y’all get so pressed after rejection, it’s the best form of entertainment. “He recognizes I’m ugly, inside and out, I have to tear down a good guy so I like him less.” Classic.
Huh? How is it wrong to be nice? Sorry English is not my first language so I don't know if it's some kind of a term for something. But for me personally, being a nice person is a good thing.
The Shanique and Zay fight, my thoughts- they’re both upset about things they learned about their partners interactions with the other people but their partners aren’t there for them to express their feelings too and have their partners reassure them so they’re kind of looking to each other and neither of them can offer the other reassurance that they need because they’re obviously not the people so they end up in a fight that doesn’t make sense because they’re upset and the premise of this show is totally dysfunctional
Oh man, a lot to say. Leo, you forgot the part where Jake tells April on Ultimatum day that he's not just gonna go run off with Rae, but then after breaking up he literally goes straight to her and offers to run off anywhere in the world.
Most of the couples were insufferable though. I liked Randal, I actually liked April for the most part (I hated that she went through his phone, but I hated Jake even more and while I'll say he had every right to be angry at her, I don't think it absolved him of responsibility for what WAS there). Zay I almost liked, but he needed to work on the attitude a lot. Everyone else though just, fuck man. And Alexis needs to learn that there is more to attraction than just physical appearance. Colby just said he wasn't attracted to her, that could easily have been because of her views on money.
Also, I'm not gonna lie, I found the editing really obnoxious a lot of the times. Found it more distracting than anything. But it was a huge project and it was still very well done, I still liked it
I loved the little friendship between Colby and April, before it became so apparent how much Colby sucked. April is a whole hoot, I loved the moments where she suddenly started calling everyone out
I felt weird for April. Like i wanted to root for her. Though not with jake. Guess she benefited greatly from the show by breaking up with him though. She seems happy w a new guy now.
I'm ngl my brother and I couldn't stand April when we watched the show, and her crying over everything all the time did not help us like her 💀
Madelyn wanted this "experience", she took Colby for granted and thought he would stay or didn't argue back to anything. He wanted her in the beginning and wasn't the one who took this decision ti be on the show and now when they both had their "experience", she regrets it. She wanted it all. She was so over Randell, like "over him"😉 for real. This was the absolute worst show, but to be fair, there's MANY of them on some format like this. Leo is such a champ for actually watch ALL of the episodes and still have his brain intact🏆
Shows like this bother me on so many levels. For one it feels super exploitative, given these are insecure people and then you put them into a situation where you prey upon that insecurity. Then you throw in the idea of "hooking up" with someone else and the pressure of an ultimatum. That is just adding fuel to the drama fire.
A better way to do this is to have licensed marriage counselors there to talk to the couples and help them try to work through their issues and if they can not, part on decent terms and learn healthy dating habits. But alas, that does not make Netflix cringe.
Disclaimer: This is coming from a currently single 30-year-old who hates these shows since they set unrealistic expectations of relationships.
Don’t watch them then
I mean yeah, but it’s trash tv, what do we expect?
There is no drama and entertainment in that… no one will watch it
Happily married for almost 19 years; we dated for a year when we talked about what's next and after talking about what marriage meant to us we decided to get married. Shortly after he told me that he knew he wanted to marry me after about two months. After thinking about it I figure it was about four months for me. It really wasn't complicated at all.
Same for me and my husband. He promised himself to me after 3 months and I knew I wanted to be his wife after our first trip together at 4 months. We got married after a year and also 5 months of living together. Have genuinely never been more secure in the idea of marriage
Same for us!
i don't care that this comment is a year old, this is cute asf, go you guys 💞
I love how the girl is trying to knock Colby by saying the sex wasn’t “rememberable”, as if she had no part in the sex not being good lol. Sex takes two people, and typically good sex is because both people push each other to their limits. If the sex wasn’t good, maybe it’s because you laid there on your back doing the “flaccid scarecrow” like you said lol!
She’s insulting herself equally 😂 it’s giving pillow princess starfish 💀
Really glad you called out that one slimey girl for trying to pressure that one guy (I don't care about these people's names) into sex. As someone who wants to wait until marriage, it's super shitty to pressure anyone into sex.
Damn... My wife and I got married six weeks ago without telling anyone and honestly this video just made me reflect on how lucky we got finding each other ❤️
Congratulations!!!
I really like that as a concept. It takes away the materialism of modern day weddings. Kinda like going back to the basics of it, choosing to be together.
Hope all is still going well for you guys and you had a great first year of marriage, seeing as this comment is 11 months old!
congrats :)
This show was honestly so deeply cringe only in clip form that I amazed you made it out alive from watching a whole season. All the contestants get an F simply for going on this horrid crapfest. Madlin is still somehow the worst.
madlyn was so messy and chaotic throughout the whole show, i wasn't surprised when she said yes to colby's proposal
Alexis by far the worst person
She clearly had a drinking issue, so i think instead of getting married she should get some counseling
I've been married for almost 3 years. Marriage doesnt fix your problems. It gives you new and different problems. It also gives you the commitment of someone who is there for you and you can be there for them, and you can work through your problems.
This show is very interesting to watch as a an asexual and a possible aromatic because how could you like a person in four days. Like what the hell.
Nobody cares that you're a virgin
Ur not asexual ur just too insecure to get into a relationship
even as an allosexual i can't imagine. it takes me a while to form an opinion about someone
That's the thing whoever made the show knew ,u can't fall in love that fast but you can develop Lust for people within 1 day and there relationships are already rocky ....They know exactly what there doing
I fell in love in one day. We're still in love and it has been years. It happens
48:17 “Sex is very important in a relationship, and anyone who says it’s not important is lying”
*Me, an asexual:* “Am I... Am I a joke to you-“
Yes because there is no way she believes in asexuality
@@FACTORYSHORTBUS It…it was a joke 😭
Yea
Unfortunately
She Wildin
_"Can you imagine if a guy got all whiny because he couldn't get some ?"_
Uhh, it happens all the time ? Except, a lot of the time, they get angry and aggressive, too, after you reject them in any way.
Yeah. Guys just don't get whiny. They actually get violent WAY more than you know. So yeah.
However, I absolutely agree that we women need to hold each other to a better standard. It's not cute just because you're a female to throw yourself physically on guys who have said no.
@@thevoiceofreason29 I get that. I honestly haven't ever seen behavior like from a woman this irl before, though. I've only ever seen this either on TV or videos, where girls are trying to clout chase by harassing men. Which is absolutely disgusting, because if the roles were reversed, men would be thrown in jail for harassing women that way.
@@Zeroshiki they wouldn't be thrown in jail, let's be honest, but they would get a lot more flak from women and maybe some other men for it.
and I mean, if there are women who do it on TV/in videos, then it stands to reason that there are women who do it in regular and normal life
But imagine you’re watching a guy on tv acting that way. Everyone on the internet would bash him.
@@registeredjopper They absolutely would be thrown in jail for some of the shit I see women do, but get away with; like pouring bleach on their crotches because they're _"manspreading"_ or outright assaulting them with _"kissing pranks"_ and shit.
About Madeline
Honestly I think that when a girls friend is in a relationship for a while and they come to them with relationship problems the friends try supporting them by taking their side and after a while it turns into an Echo chamber to a point where the guy is always gonna be looked at as the bad guy cause well friends support each other. A good friend tells you when you’re wrong or looking at something wrong. But please correct me if I have a misconception, I’d love a different perspective on this if there is one
Often times this “echo chamber” effect comes from being burned after attempting to be honest with a friend about their relationship. I’ve attempted to gently intervene in my closest friends’ toxic relationships, but almost always had to watch my friend go back to a horrible partner. Eventually you just attempt to be there for your friend, even if it means being part of an “echo chamber” it’s better than losing them completely.
@@Kellyeeeee i don't think that's quite the same thing
This is so true, when I've had arguments with my SO my mother and friend always said "you're 100% in the right, dump him" even after me telling them all that I'd done wrong and them telling me I'm justified even when he does the same, he isn't, then I have another friend who genuinely wants to give good advice and actually listens to what I say and gives useful non-biased advice, that friend is more mature than my mother. My bf has said the same, he has had friends telling him to dump me without actually knowing the story. It was hard to get through to him "you realise both of our friends are telling us were right? It's obviously a friendship bias" because at the time he was taking his mates(who barely knew anything) opinions like gospel, started calling me a gaslighter when he didn't know what it meant(because his big brain friend), so I tell him what it means and show everytime he gaslighted me and that was the point he realized his friends opinions probably aren't that accurate, and also that it can be possible to have toxic traits without the intention of being bad
The awkwardness of telling your friend that her ex boyfriend was a scumbag and then having that same friend get back together with him... 😶
You either end up having to backtrack or end up having to continue talking shit about your friend's boyfriend and having her resent you.
I've gone to friends in the past when I've had relationship issues and in the end these friends saw my partners as the devil walking among us.
Because I only told them the bad stuff.
One has to be careful with what they're sharing.
I'm so glad you talked about Alexis and her reaction. So entitled. "Omg how can a guy not like me I'm soooo attractive". While i disagree with that statement, so does Colby and that should be okay. She actually went and talked to Madeline about it.
Moreover the couples that got married are the ones we would have bet could not.
I felt so bad for April because Jake looked so done with her 🥴
This show is an absolute fever dream! There is a small part of me that believes the conspiracy that they planted or at least picked some of the alternate couples. 😂
I'm convinced alexis came on fully intending to be the villain of the show. she's almost like a caricature
Your channel is so much fun, but also (generally) non-toxic and very wise-appreciate your content.
I agree with Leo that you shouldn’t give up everything you have, your passions, to the other person, even your soulmate that you love more than anything else.
Im speaking from experience because I made this mistake in my ex marriage that lasted 8 years somehow. I thought I was doing the right thing. But the thing is, when you dissolve yourself in another person you lose individuality, and you rightfully become completely uninteresting and unexciting to that person you brought yourself on an altar for.
The worst thing you can do when your love fades away because you became a boring fuck whose sole existence is to please his/hers spouse is to blame that person for not appreciating sacrifices you made. When the only one responsible for that fucked up relationship is you. Which I at least had enough brains and reality grasp not to do.
So yeah. Take care of yourself first and foremost when you’re with someone else. That way you will have more mental resources to spend energy and effort on your loved one. And they will appreciate it more, trust me.
Amen
Beautifully said, glad you got out of that situation!!
Took me over ten years to understand this, but it’s so important 🙏🏿
Well said, how are you doing now? Are you doing things that interest you now? Taking care and loving yourself? ❤️
@@nickb329
Hey Nick and everyone, thank you for your comments
Yes, right now I'm not in relationship and strongly focused on self-improving instead. I was able to improve my financial situation by learning new skill and get 4.5 years of experience in that area since then. Also I got back in shape after hitting gym. It's amazing how much of metamorphosis you go through when you finally put yourself in the uttermost priority. Now I have so much more desire and capacity to live and do everything, not to mention what it did to my mental health and confidence. And most importantly a huge space clean from toxicity in my heart for a new person to enter my life.
Your advice is really good. I was single until I was 24, which was really hard. I desperately wanted a relationship, but the truth is I hadn't found one because I wasn't ready. When I started working on myself and putting the time into things that made me happy, it got much easier, and starting a relationship became a lot more natural.
I’m 25 and in the same position, I feel like I’m not ready. I hope I will be, I’m getting too old 😭
Alexis was also on the bachelor and was just as horrendous😭😭 I knew I recognized her.
Marriage is something that’s supposed to strengthen the bond you already have with someone, not a band-aid you try and slap on an already broken relationship.
My husband and I got married 6 months ago, but we had been together 7 years before that, entirely long distance too with nothing but Skype calls and seeing each other once a year for a week. He’s moved to me now and despite not having lived together for more than a few days at a time beforehand we’re only closer and love each other more. That’s because we got married to solidify the bond we already made. Not to fix something that wasn’t working.
Love ya SixteenLeo. You crack me up, thank you for sitting through such trash for our entertainment 👏👌💖
My parents only knew each other for 6 months when they got married. They were together for 20 years......then they divorced. I'm shocked they made it that long. lol
I'm demisexual and romantic, so these shows always amuse me to no end, because i just don't understand the physical attraction at first sight, but i agree to an extent about sexual relationships with your partner. As long as you're both open and on the same page as each other, it doesn't matter if you have none or you have a lot, but you have to make sure you're both COMMUNICATING. Something all of these people lack to an epic proportion.
It's not on accident that Netflix is pushing these kind of bad decisions for your future. First the ultimatum and second dating outside your relationship. Never forget that the people that started Netflix are the grandkids of Edward Bernays.
The idea of Ultimatums, especially in this context, is just so toxic and controlling. It shows that they value the concept and idea of a marriage more than their partner. They're acting as if the relationship is only about them instead of coming together as partners and figure things out, with some trying so hard to hold onto a relationship with flaws that needs to be re-evaluated.
I feel like having dated multiple people gives you a better perspective on your wants and needs in a relationship and gives better foundation to go into a more serious relationship and to me it feels like a lot of them haven't seeing how readily some of them ditch their previous partners. No amount for rushing into marriage and trying your best to chase the traditional household is going to fix things and make you happy at this point with how cracked the basis of their relationships are, and dating people you just met with the idea of marriage in mind isn't going to help either. If anything they'll be likely to be in the honeymoon period with this new love and be less likely to look at flaws or problems. God the idea of this show makes my brain hurt, I have no idea what this show is trying to push at this point, whatever it's supposed to be it's awful.
Side-note but the April being 23 and wanting to dive head first into marriage and having kids sounds insane to me, like you must already be pretty upper-middle class to even consider that but also sounds like you've barely lived to settle down like that, like your whole idea of self-worth is founded in those things and you're willing to dedicate your life to the home without having lived or experienced a lot of life, with that pace you're gonna have a mid-life crisis at 28 or something.
My husband and I got engaged after 7 years of dating through our 20's. We just got married back in December and I can say it's totally worth the wait. We are both 30 now & just celebrated our 8 year anniversary together ❤️
15:35 so true. In a relationship one person can't be the main priority. It's both. And I'm speaking from experience - my last relationship ended because of this. Be careful about giving yourself away for someone.
Leo, when you imitated Madlyn by saying "What made you attracted to me?" while retreating into your couch all slouched over and in a raspy voice, that made me bust out laughing so hard! Hilarious when girls do stuff like that. Thanks my man!
WHY DO PEOPLE GET INTO RELATIONSHIPS WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT KIDS WHEN HOU DONT?! (Or vice versa obviously) like that’s the easiest thing in the world to avoid, no matter what if you are dead set on wanting a family or not and someone is also but the opposite, it will never work. Either a kid comes and will be resented, or no kids come and someone will be resentful for not ever getting their dream of being a parent. Having kids is literally the biggest decision you can make in life, so why do people act like it’s no biggie up until months/years into a relationship when it’s too late for someone or both people to not get extremely hurt 🤦♀️
How did you just casually not mention the part where Colby says he cheated for Madelyn's benefit but also didn't tell her about it? 🤔 That was the most toxic thing in the most toxic relationship on this toxic fucking show!
My girlfriend and I started talking about marriage about 6 months into our relationship. It's almost a year and a half now. I'm going to propose in August, but it's something that takes a lot of thought
Congratulations! ❤️
So happy for you ☺️🥹 congratulations ✨✌🏽 I love ppl being in love 💖 lol
Good Luck!
Congratulations! I got engaged in 9 months of dating...but 100% we do not take marriage lightly
Happy that you waited !
The idea that there's so many people that are just a-okay with going through their partner's phones/devices is mind-blowing.
Like, my partner and I are fine with using each other's phones when we need to, we have no reason to mind it, but even with us being open about that, no way would I ever go through his phone! I feel bad if I'm accidentally looking when he's chatting with people lol
If you don't trust your partner that much, why even be with them?
My partner willingly gave me the password to his phone and it honestly kinda shocked me cuz I never even thought of touching his phone, let alone opening it. I don't understand why people feel the need to snoop through things. If your partner ends up cheating, you will find out. You don't need to cross a moral boundary just because you're insecure.
That’s why everyone on this show was so young. Cause it’s probably much much more difficult to find someone over 30 that doesn’t know that
@@alexamandes8872Age doesn't nessecarily mean much when it comes to morals. You have the choice not to be a dick when you're young. But you do have a point, younger people are much more insecure and anxious generally.
@@malchickoleander I was about to say this because same.
I got married at 21, having known my husband for 11 months. Soon it will be 23 years. We were not considered to be alike, by his and my friends, but we made a perfect match. There have been couple of rough patches on the road, but we have never known anyone who could compare even a little bit. We are made for each other. I could not have made an ultimatum, but I really wanted him to marry me, so he did :) He says it is by far the best decision of his life.
This makes me believe in soulmates cause you guys are definitely soulmates
@@Pr1ncK3V1N Hehe ... our daughter is online as Ariel
My husband and I got married after 4 months. We've been happily married for 6 years now and have an amazing son. Sometimes when you know you know but I wouldn't recommend running into a marriage that's built on an ultimatum or fear of abandonment.
Love how Colby caused two ppl to go into such distress from jealousy that they just wanted to get married right then and there. Such manipulation 😂😂
That misuse of the word “whenever” rather than “when” is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Once you hear it from somebody, you realize that a LOT of people do it.
One to two years and they're already at the marry-me-or-break-up stage? Yeah, my husband and I got married at almost exactly 3 years and that felt pretty fast AND it was without an ultimatum. Dang. This show feels predatory, but then I guess a lot of reality TV is.
This fucking show should not have been made but they did it anyways. Who in their right mind thinks that pressuring their partner into getting married for the sake of entertainment is a good way to build a strong relationship? “Honey pls come on this show with me to help change ur mind about marriage. All you have to do is date random people from different couples and choose one you wanna live with for a bit” *partner lives with someone else for a few weeks and builds a connection with them* “I can’t believe they did this to me 😢”. How am I supposed to feel bad for these people when it’s obvious none of them should be in a relationship? Y’all coulda just gone to couples counselling but chose chaos instead?
I freaking loved everything about this video. Your summary and comments about the content made it into a completely different product - as in "Ultimatum" vs "Sixteenleo Presents: Ultimatum". Please for the love of god, make more of this. It doesn't even need to be this specific show, just any show. You've got my sub!
Me: *Attention span too short to watch a 1hr30min movie*
Also me: *Will watch a multihour TH-camr breakdown without a second thought*
I didnt see Colby and April as a “friend group” while watching the show, they were clearly into each other. But! Love you Leo. Need a reunion recap!!!! It’s crazy!
An ultimatum is just asking for a relationship to fall apart. Thanks for subjecting yourself to such a painful bingefest. Your efforts and love for the BBC's know no bounds.
Apparently Nick's love for her was blind, but somehow needed an ultimatum
It's time to stop being surprised that narcissists are the ones most attracted to being on these shows..where they then act like...narcissists.
I've always told my boyfriend my stipulations for Marriage, which include: A ring, a ceremony, and having been together for at least three years and no longer than seven before marriage.
He's a Veteran, so he was eager to get married right away. I was obviously not. As time went on, I've become ready to get married to him, and now he is hesitating because of the lifestyle that demands his attention with the Military.
While that might be concerning to others, I actually found it very mature and indearing. He's truly thinking about this, and that's the point of eventually moving towards marriage. I'm willing to wait. There's no real problem with our relationship, and there's nothing that we haven't been able to overcome by talking to each other respectfully.
We've currently been together for three years, coming up on our fourth. I am actually so happy that he's hesitant. I want him to be just as sure that he wants to be with me as I want to be with him. Even if he's hiding doubts or eventually wants to leave the relationship in the future, I will be sad, but at the same time, I cherish every moment with him. Just knowing that he's making sure that he's happy in the long run will be enough for me.
If we do end up getting married, I hope that it's because we overcame doubts and decided that we balance each other's life without dragging each other down. I want us to know that we're happy together and that we're good together.
While there are four more years to prove whether or not I will start to decide if I should move on, I honestly don't think that I would want to. At this point, I just enjoy having him in my life. We'll see how things go, and no matter what it will be positive for both of us. That's the plan.
sounds like you know deep inside he doesn't want to marry you anymore
@@spiderslayerthefirst pff update: we got a courthouse wedding to save money and are planning on a ceremony. If he didn't want to marry me, I'm pretty sure he dropped the ball with that. Deep down, I knew he wanted to but was scared I wouldn't be happy because of his career choice. I get it because marriage is scary and it's especially a big deal when it comes to the military. I think, deep down, you know you're projecting. Not everything that makes you wait is going to disappoint.
Yeah, pretty sure that it is not recommended at all to try and use an open relationship as a way to solve a unstable/toxic relationship. You literally just drag random people into your sinking ship.
forsure I'm in an open relationship and I tell people all the time you need to figure out ALL of your shit. and learn to be not only completely honest with YOURSELF on what you feel and want ect. but be FULLY trusting and honest with your partner if you're not you're just draging more damage into an already damaged relationship and it always ends horraible
Absolutely!
The two times I’ve gone through a partner’s phone I’ve caught them cheating. I don’t knock the women for following their gut.
What does a struggling relationship need to progress? Flirting with people outside the relationship obviously…
I look at my partner of 2 years and I know I want to marry him. I know he wants to marry me. We aren't in a place for that yet financially. These couples have missed HUGE discussions in compatibility that should have happened by now. They don't necessarily need to want to get married right now but how some of these couples got to 1.5 or 2 years with these huge obstacles baffles me.
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I actually understand what he means here. My parents (both not the greatest people) frequently got upset and would not say anything until they blew up, but I knew they were mad by the way they looked (the face they made). And now if anyone I know doesnt look happy I worry about them being upset with me even if they arent. Hopefully this helps a little.