I was married for 26 years, we never fought. We had the odd niggle that lasted for probably 5 minutes and after half an hour or so someone would ask the other if they wanted a tea or coffee and life went on. I'll never marry again as I'd never find another husband as perfect as he was. He was taken from me 3 years ago with cancer. He was my soulmate
@@heezypeasy8611 I think more so it was because noone chose him. If he'd been chosen by someone else and then Cody chose her he wouldn't have minded. He was LIVID that he thought he was being left unpicked
It's such a messed up show tbh, basically pushing people to get together and marry cause they're insecure and don't want their partner with someone else having a good time or possibly moving on from them. It's insane like who even makes a show like this lol. Reality TV is such a mess but it's hilarious. Also Alexis went and married her original partner cause Colby denied her and was left with no one cause she's actually unattractive.
My parents disagreed on kids too. Obviously, the kid wanted won. My Mom DID love us and is glad she had us, and so am I-but it wasn’t like, the best childhood ever being raised by a woman who didn’t like kids in general and was always mad at us for being…kids. And depressed because she didn’t really like the Mom thing. It’s a weird relationship and I have complicated feelings. She’s way better with us as adults. I’m glad I exist. But still. Maybe not ideal.
I think about things like that so often. It's good your mother loved you, and you have a good relationship with your mom, and I'm very happy for you that that's the case. But generally it should be understood that if you don't want kids, you shouldn't have kids, because it has the potential to really screw things up for them.
@@mikchimin I agree totally. But kids come into the world in less than ideal circumstances all the time. I'm supportive of people who don't want children, but I also HATE the way the childfree community talks about kids. It'd be nice if we could just be supportive of each other and kid loving (even if we're not kid liking, if that makes sense). I have three. I feel blessed to have wanted kids and been able to have them and to be in the exact circumstance I desired. Not everyone is so lucky. Life is messy all of the time. We don't always get to pick our own messes.
@@andianderson3017 that is very true, and I didn't really mean it in an all or nothing sense, so I'm very sorry it came off as that way. I mean more in the circumstances of something like compromising with a partner who wants kids who doesn't want kids themselves. Obviously things do happen, and when that is the case, it's the parents' responsibility above all else to love and raise that kid correctly. I'm just happy to see we're shifting away from societal pressure, and the expectation that you should have kids, even if you don't want them. The world is not black and white, and I believe above all else children should be the most important thing in any argument regarding the situation. Though I don't like kids personally, it's never my intention to be adamantly against them, or any situation in which someone who initially doesn't want kids. I know it's hard to generalize something like this and it was my bad. It just sometimes feels difficult to be a woman who doesn't want kids in a society where settling down and having kids is still the norm, so sometimes my frustration shines through my words, and that's something I need to work on. Overall, I do believe we're on the same side of the opinion, and I do hope and your kids have a wonderful day :)
I’m an unwanted child too!!!! I’m sorry for your experience and I resonate with you. My mom and I actually don’t have a relationship. She spent my entire life saying, “I didn’t want y’all, your daddy did” now we don’t speak. And I’m closer to my father. Isn’t she pissed? I’m simply fulfilling those wishes. She didn’t spend time with us in our childhood, and truthfully I don’t have many memories of her. I went to therapy b/c she worked a number on me. Couldn’t even get into a healthy relationship b/c of my mommy issues. I pray you were able to work through yours!! ❤
no fr. my mom didn’t want kids, and now she has 3. i’m almost an adult, and i’ve noticed since i was like 13ish she’s treated me better. she just didn’t want to raise children. and i can see why; she’s a middle school teacher💀
There are psychological and sociological statistics that back up your claim. *A lot* of people think marriage will fix everything and then that marriage comes crashing down, usually very quickly.
Also, people aren't talking about real issues and standing by their deal breakers (i.e. kids or no kids). I know people who didn't discuss or had opposing views to their spouse and are having issues bc one of them wants kids. My brother and his wife struggled to have children and went through IVF which was super expensive, then had the next baby w/o IVF. I went to visit them and I was exhausted bc the kids do not let up ever. I woke up at 6 am to my nephew leaning over me as I slept. I played with him and fed him so my brother and his wife could sleep in (the baby was still asleep). It's a big deal to have kids and both people have to be on the same page about it.
@@chembiz i’m sorry but waking up to a child hovering over me as i slept is my personal hell. unfortunately for the kid, my quick reflexes probably would’ve (at the very least) kicked him away out of fear and sheer confusion. kids are so weird & it’s good to know ahead of time wether you’d want them or not.
@@positivevibesveda I gasped when I woke up bc his face was close to mine. My nephew then said, "Hi auntie." I totally get what you're saying, that's why people need to have the kid convo and not try to change the other person's mind. Nate and Lauren decided they'd have 1 kid as a compromise. Don't know how or if that's going to work out.
The ultimatum is a television masterpiece. Haven't you ever wanted to see two people in a relationship talk almost exclusively about how they don't want each other and are falling in love with someone else after 8 days??
A few episodes in I would have listened to people trashing Colby all day! But I can't believe the two WORST guys ended up getting their way. 😭This show was more depressing than fun.
I think it's just projection...she probably has low self-esteem but pretends like she doesn't just to react like this bc someone doesn't find her attractive
I’d be astonished if any of them actually make it 3 more years together. Beyond their obvious self-absorbed narcissism, marriage is tough enough without all these doubts and infidelities right off the bat. Sad. I can’t even imagine treating my SO this way
Hmm... I think the worst reality TV show ever made was The Swan from 2004, where women went through several massive plastic surgery procedures and competed on a pageant based on who became the "prettiest". That show was VILE! But this one seems really bad too.
I feel a similar way towards "Revenge Body". I just don't like it because people were trying to get healthy and in shape only to spite someone in their lives, obviously most often an ex. Not to mention it was hosted by Khloe Kardashian. And as much as I sympathize with Khloe without being a Kardashian fan, it's unfair to have her act as a role model when we know she has access to means and methods that common folk doesn't.
Alexis looks like handsome squidward and she walks around like she’s the sexiest person ever.. I honestly feel like she expected people to think she was the hottest person on the planet and when no one wanted her as a partner she was like “ok well.. I love Randall anyways because no one else wants me”
Not trying to lecture, but I do think there's plenty to critique about Alexis without bringing her appearance into it. Like, maaaaybe criticise based on a person's choices. They don't choose how they look. Obviously, you're completely entitled to do as you like, this was just food for thought.
this show was so terrible in so many ways, but i think instead of having young slim 20 something people who have been dating for 2 years at most, maybe they could have had people in their mid 30s and have been dating for more than a decade, which would have made a waaaay better show and more genuine and interesting
I was genuinely thinking that! Like 20 somethings have no idea who they are as a person let alone what they want in a partner. But putting 30+ somethings who ave been dating a decade or more without any hint of marriage or leaving the other spouse would have proved more interesting and actually, oddly enough, more realistic. They had only been dating a year or two, these young people have no idea what life has to offer. My aunt has been dating her on and off again boyfriend for more than a decade and wants to marry him (no idea why) and he is very wishy washy. They break up for a time then end up back together because they are both equally terrible people in different ways. In my honest opinion, neither of them should marry each other and could just continue on as they are. My aunt is in her fifties and her boyfriend I believe is around the same age.
That is a terrific idea! But the thing is the stakes would be genuinely really high then. When you have 10 years invested in a relationship and you turned to your partner and say where is this going and the answer you get isn't the answer you hoped for... that is some serious drama! And some truly life changing decisions would be made in that scenario. It would be great to watch but might actually be cruel to the contestants. (Stakes that high and potentially devastating honestly also might make it great to watch so I kinda hate myself now.)
They've given all the contestants metal cups for their drinks even while out at a bar because the drink levels are an easy way to spot continuity issues. These shows always edit and twist the heck out conversations for extra drama.
My girlfriend and I watched the entire season and my god. This was probably the 1st ever reality that I rooted for no one. But if there’s a next season, we’ll definitely watch it
They should’ve called the show the hall pass because it’s basically just giving your partner a whole pass to do whatever they want for three weeks or then get back together
"I forced myself" he wouldn't want that for you, he wants a healthy interpersonal relationship with his viewers. We support him but it has to healthy. You wasted 10hr of your life hoping it'd make you closer to someone you only see on screen once a week or 2. Its different if you guys hangout to watch it.
As a photographer one of the weddings I worked at I was with the groom and groomsmen doing a photo shoot. The groom seemed really not into it. I tried to make conversation by asking ,”so what made you pop the question ?” He said that he was given a choice at 2 years dating. “she said marry me or we are done” and then chugged a pitcher of beer. Yeahhhh super awkward
He should have bailed.. at 2 years risking half of everything you have is a bad bet.. and honestly if she cared about him she wouldn't have done that. Poor bastard.
@@Vaga-Bard I agree he should have left, but I think either partner has the right to say, "I need to know whether this relationship is leading to marriage because that's a priority of mine, and if it's not I don't want to stay in it."
One thing I will say about Shanique is that when it came to other people including Zay (even when they had disagreements) she would remain relatively level headed and wouldn't go off yelling or screaming. She was very insightful when she gave him the advice about using his past issues as a crutch. She even took Madelyn's taunting in great stride. But when she was with Randall it's like she just completely loses her ability to act maturely.
I SCREAMED when i heard that, i knew damn well he was gonna leave with her. I was also shocked to see in the end she didnt go with him bc she was still in love with Zay? What a plotwist
@@cinnabunny4640 seriously. My sister and I were like "that's exactly what you're doing"!! 😂 I liked Zay! He had issues but who doesn't?! But lord that show was a mess!
@@cinnabunny4640 fun fact: Rae was dating a girl while she was dating jake and she says I wanted to feel that relationship out. I think she wanted to work out a friendship w Zay at the end of the day but I believe in her mind saying yes to that trip would be like making it official w jake and I don’t think those were ever her intentions. I think he was a stepping stone to verifying Zay wasn’t the one while simultaneously having someone there to distract her from the heart break of the break up since her side chick wasn’t there.
@@mstr_door404 omg you’re right! I almost forgot about that. Then i truly dont know why Zay was yelling at her in the end “ we were fucking”, i honestly thought she didnt wanna leave with Jake bc she still had feelings for Zay but if she’s dating a girl then idk, its all so confusing
@@cinnabunny4640 I feel like a lot of it was to promote their socials in the end of it all. Notice how none of them have posts since before that. It’s hard to know what their lives were like before. A lot of it could just be them trying to start a Career in media.
This show could've been over so fast if they just paired them up with a pre marriage counselor. The goal is to ask the hard questions and essentially see if the couple is ready to get married. Clearly none of the couples are. There is no need to rush marriage.
My brother and his wife before they got married, my brother felt he wasn't ready to marry until he felt he was making enough money for both of them if for any reason she couldn't work. He finally did and they both eventually became homeowners. They were together 5 years until my brother finally popped the question and both are living happily together.
I swear these reality shows are like: "Let's get the most toxic people together in the world and put them on a show together!" And yes I'd like to see you react to the reunion.
Well normal non toxic people would do crazy things like communicate their issues like adults, attend couples therapy or better yet not sign up for these shows in the first place and thats not nearly enough drama to create the trainwrecks that keep people watching
I mean what non toxic person would even agree to a show like this? Dating shows are one thing but this they are agreeing to essentially swap partners to see if they better match others which is itself inherently unhealthy for a relationship.
I hate when men get called gentlemen, for not taking advantage of a drunk person. We shouldn't give praise for the bare minimum. It would be great if not doing that was the norm.
That wont happen for awhile yet, least its changing defiantly since i was a teen.. ppl would boast if the slept wit someone that was too drunk to remember, they would say oh she was so drunk falling around passing out etc, then they fu#k her and laugh about it, commenting she was like a sack off potatoes. Oh it used to be disgusting and the norm, the word consent didn't exist, yoi were just a drung wh#re and thats it.. men chasing girls that were that drung, i stopped a couple off incidents in my time when i seen the girl too drunk and the guy sober trying to take them away
I dated a guy once who used to go through my phone and stuff- nothing ever there. Should have been a red flag for me. Guy had MAJOR insecurity and jealously issues because he cheated in a past relationship and kept telling me he felt karma would get him one day. Yeah, when I left you for being a psycho.
Had a girlfriend that did the same, hell my phone practically became hers. She also would say I was flirting with cashiers because I said "hi, how are you" or "hi, how is your day going" said that to both guys and chicks same tone of voice and eye contact
Not always but often people who are accusing someone of cheating are often cheating themselves. I don't know why this is usually the case. Experienced this myself. It's like the more insecure they are the more they feel better about themselves to have a side chick or guy, but also having a guilty conscience. Like, telling themselves you're doing it or something else wrong to, so "I'm justified in my actions."
I had a boyfriend who would do the same thing, but it was long distance. He said he wasn’t comfortable with me hanging out with my male friend, and reasoned it by saying that he was the male friend of a girl and she cheated on her bf with him, and now he has trust issues because of that. Like… sir you did the bad thing??!!
My ex would do this too! Nothing was ever there, but he would always twist a reason to get pissed if a guys name ever popped up on my phone. He even cussed out a gay guy for talking to me! He broke up with me and told all his friends(including my brother) I cheated after I saw an old friend at school and he messaged me later on facebook mentioning us meeting. My ex wasn't even on my phone for that, he literally hacked my facebook regularly from his home computer and would yell at me over the things I said(or just things said TO me). He then came back 2 weeks later crying over what a mistake he made and was dumbfounded when I absolutely refused to get back with him. Thankfully my current SO has never once asked to see my phone and is completely fine with me hanging out with people of any gender. I resent that my own family still believes lies, but it is what it is.
Marriage doesn’t solve anything. I realized on my honeymoon in Ireland that I had just compounded our problems by letting myself be pushed into it. Three years later we were divorced and absolutely hated one another.
So my partner and I have a healthy, non toxic, adult relationship and we achieve this by not going on TV and sleeping with other people but to each their own.
Same here. But i can understand how some people might find a long term normal relationship boring after a while and resort to the thrill of having affairs .. im not proud but i used to be like that when i was maybe 15
Alexis just wants her ego fed. If no one is giving her validation, they need to be destroyed. Which is absolutely ridiculous, not everyone is to everyone's liking and that's fine. Also, her fixation with Colby not being attracted to her seems more like she's attracted to him cause that was the first/few times someone had turned her down or showed her no interest.
I think Colby sucks for how he acted like cheating on Madelyn was a kind act for the betterment of their relationship (and also somehow her fault??). But Madelyn being so incredibly pushy about Randall sleeping with her and getting all whiny and cagey when he said no was so icky. Maybe y’all deserve each other.
I can't imagine, cameras or not, that a marriage that begun with an ultimatum wouldn't hold some resentment for the partner who was forced to choose. It's just not a healthy beginning to a marriage.
actually my parents marriage kinda begun with an ultimatum, and they are still happily together after 24 years of a relationship and around 18 years of marriage, however my parents did really work on themselves afterwards (especially my dad, he had anger issues and basically had an intense fight with my mom, he basically told her (screamed I think?) they either should split up or get married and my mom softly and sweetly said "okay", my dad asked "okay what?" and my mom calmly said "okay, I'll marry you" It wasnt the greatest way of asking someone to marry you but for them it worked out, probably also because they were already a lot older, had two kids and 5 years together
@@orangeleprachaun4723 lol, same with my parents, 25 years married happily. My Dad's job took him all over the western US and after dating a few months my Mom started following him. And also took control of his finances because he is so bad with money, so in a way they were already married. Flash forward 2 years, my mom marched up to my dad and declared "If you're gonna keep dragging me all over the country, you better mary me!" He said something like, "um, okay." And a trip to the Las Vegas court house later they were married!
Yeah, really sounds like a bad foundation to start a relationship on, especially a marriage. I don't get the focus on marriage much anyways, why can't you just enjoy being with your partner nonetheless? My parents have been together 30~ years and aren't married, you don't have to be to live a happy life with someone.
Madelyn has a drinking problem. I'm saying this as someone who struggled with using alcohol as an escape when I was in a miserably abusive relationship. I'm not saying she's in one but she's CLEARLY miserable with Colby and they're terrible together. Actually all of them are miserable together. It's crazy.
I thought the exact same thing about her, she was drunk for at least half the scenes, and the only time i felt like Colby was actually a good partner was when he took her glass away
She definitely has a drinking problem but she's also a pretty terrible person who tried to get with someone else hard and then crawled back her actual boyfriend when she got knocked back. Update: what the fuck just happened at the end
I also went through and abusive relationship and colby gives those vibes a lot hes like scary and gaslighty deep down. At first i thought he was chill and as the show kept going just reminded me more and more of my ex
She’s an alcoholic and loves sex, two personality traits that are dangerous as hell to have. Even if she is happily with a person, technically under the law the sex she’d have would be rape if she was drunk. Messy, messy, dangerous behavior, not just for her but for her partner.
Like Raava and Vaatu- they must battle each other for the rest of time for the sake of all humanity. Did i just make a Legend of Korra reference on a video about a dating show in 2022? yes I did...
"It was very good of God to let Carlyle and Mrs. Carlyle marry one another, and so only make two people miserable and not four." -Samuel Butler about his friends Thomas Carlyle and Jane Welsh Carlyle
I feel like there was a huge difference in how this show was communicated to the audience vs. the participants. The message to the audience: "You will be with this person to see what life is like with someone who isn't your partner. Then you will spend time with your partner for comparison and decide whether you want to continue your relationship, take it to the next level, or break up." The participants: "I am broken up with my partner and ready to start dating with no consequences in the foreseeable future!"
The one couple I know that got married because of an ultimatum had the most painful and awkward divorce. It’s a bad idea. If YOU are unwilling to wait, YOU leave. Don’t put that decision on them.
At first I thought the Colby/Zay fight was really random, but I kinda get it now. Colby was basically trying to use Zay as a scapegoat so he could dodge accountability for cheating outside the confines of the experiment. So, instead of Colby (rightfully) being the bad guy, he tried to push that off on Zay.
Ooh snap you right I get the fight now, thanks for the insight and you right but Zay wasn’t having it. That means Zay found out what Colby was doing. Ooh
As a general rule, if you need to give any ultimatum just take the "failure" option. And if anyone gives you an ultimatum you probably need to cut them loose.
I don’t think every single ultimatum is absolutely cursed and could never be a good relationship. Say someone has been dating for 10 years and still isn’t married (given they’re not a same sex relationship) I would understand an ultimatum. It’s easy to look at relationship black and white like that but that’s not how all relationships work, if any.
@@magicallydelicious1673 yeah so you described the exception.. and that isn't the rule.. The rule is, if someone gives you an ultimatum they probably don't care the way they should.. and considering divorce means losing half your sh*t you should immediately cut em loose.. otherwise there's a 90% chance your losing half your sh*t and your kids. Depending on how wild the woman is it could be worse than that. 50% and the kids is the minimum.. doesn't include child support, medical bills, court battles for visitations and so on.. The general rule is correct. The exception to the rule is exactly that. The exception.. Congrats tho. I was with my wife 8 years before we got married, Ben 4 years since then..
I don't think there's a problem with an ultimatum if the person delivering it genuinely means what they say. They should've never made it to the show. If any of them were serious about their ultimatums, they would've broken up a few minutes after they were issued and the other partner didn't comply. I think, is it "do Xyz or I'm leaving"...sort of like a boundary, or is it "I want you to do Xyz so I'll threaten to leave as manipulation"??? The show is definitely the manipulation option.
@@Pistonrager The real question is, what does marriage mean to that couple? If you've been together for ten years and haven't signed a piece of paper that promises them to eachother... what does that piece of paper give you that you don't already have? Some stupidly expensive party? Buy a house with that wedding money as the deposit and call it a day.
Alexis has been taught all her life that 1 her looks are ultimately the most if not only important thing about her and 2 that all men want it from all women all the time. So the rejection (which probably also came from her saying she wants the guy to be rich!) hit her core beliefs about herself and her worth. (Just to point out, I haven’t watched it, I’ve watched other reviews. Ok, I tried to watch it but fell asleep during the second episode because IT’S SO BORING!!)
fr she's like a caricature. also this is gonna sound mean but I'm astounded at her ego because imo she's the least good-looking woman there. i mean yeah she's pretty but in a very generic way.
I completely agree! I know people in real life JUST like her and you’re absolutely right: to be told they are not attractive is THE MOST vile, horrendous thing you can say to people like her. It’s mind-boggling and sincerely unbelievable but it’s their world: we are all just living in it 😂
What all these people seem to forget is after the wedding comes the rest of your life.If you are already miserable and bitchy together it says you're in for a horrible life. Being married is not always roses and sunshine. If you're not sure don't bother. Get a cat.
To be fair, it's been a long ,long time since marriage was "a commitment for life". It's more a "commitment until we get bored or things become routine, or you chew too loudly". Speaking for myself, my husband and I moved in 6 months after we began dating, and married the following year. We were together for 43 years, until his death in 2020. Both of us were on the same page all down the line. I have to laugh at these people. My husband and I had rough patches over the decades that lasted longer than some marriages! But the marriage and friendship was our top priority and I'd do it all again. I adore you, Leo! You will make someone a wonderful husband.
That's really lovely Valerie. And I completely agree. I'm sorry about the passing of your Husband. My nan and grandad got married after 6 weeks of knowing eachother, and were together for 36 years before my nan passed. I don't necessarily think everyone is going to have such smooth sailing, especially in cases where people just grow apart. However, if my generation were more patient when it came to love, I think people's long term happiness would be much better off. Everything's such a race.
Kind of defies the point. Marriage basically exists to make ending the relationship difficult, lol. If you don't plan to be with someone forever, never marry them.
@@cosmo588 I never understood the "grow apart" thing. Like okay just grow back together then. U fell out of love? Just fall back in love again. Especially if u made a lifetime VOW to be with that person forever. I know it's easier said than done but if both ppl are focused on the marriage part then work hard guys come on. Especially if u have kids. The only time I'd say divorce is ok is cheating, lying, abuse, the other person doesn't try and just ignores u meanwhile you're trying your hardest, and sever neglect. Otherwise why would u leave?
@@pussydestroyer69285 of course parents should try to do their best to work things out if they’re having troubles. Unless it’s abuse, cheating etc. as you said. Then it’s necessary to leave. However, if you haven’t personally fallen out of love with someone and grown apart, you can’t understand what it’s like. Maybe it’s possible for some people to rekindle their former emotional attraction, but sometimes the best decision for both parties is to go your seperate ways. I don’t think anyone should feel shamed for wanting a divorce if they feel it’s the best decision, unless of course it’s for financial gain or something very selfish. That’s a whole other convo. But regardless, I think it does more harm then good to shame people into staying in unhappy relationships.
Look, I’m a strict monogamist. I never really “dated” around because in my personal view, I’m either going to end up breaking up with this person or marrying them, so if I can’t see myself marrying someone someday then I won’t pursue it. But I make this very clear at the beginning. If they don’t feel the same I’m fine with that, I don’t judge anyone for how they do relationships or how they feel about marriage. My husband doesn’t care much about marriage, he loves me to pieces so for him a piece of paper isn’t as real as our actual relationship, so he was perfectly fine with marrying me so I can stay in Germany with him (I’m from the US, we met online.) We've been together four years, and living together for two, and everything is perfect. Why? We communicate EVERYTHING. He knew from the beginning how I felt about marriage, no ultimatums have ever been necessary. My point is, if you’re into marriage, make that clear. You’re causing your own relationship problems by not being clear about your intentions and then threatening them when you don’t get your way (which you clearly never communicated your way in the first place.) A marriage started with a threat is never going to last.
This is so true. My husband and I dated for only four months before we decided to get married, and that was because we went into it expecting to figure out if we could do it. We didn't date to date, but rather dated to see if we were the spouse for each other. We talked about expectations, wants, needs, hopes, our own personal successes and failures, and when we raised that everything aligned perfectly we knew that it was set. Here we are three years later and already outlasted all of my friends' marriages, when they are the ones that dated for 5 or 6 years!!!
You have a great head on your shoulders, I completely agree with you. I wish more girls my age in their mid-twenties would have the same mindset. I’ve been with my partner for 1.5 yrs and going into it we were both honest about what we wanted.
@@MyNameHere101 my bf of almost 4 months is moving in and we got a puppy. We are moving fast but it doesn't feel that way when we communicate everything. It helps when you know what you do/don't want and lay your boundaries from the very beginning.
@@GlitterC8k Exactly! If you can come out of an argument better understanding each other then that's a great sign. We argue and then we ask each other "What is YOUR perspective" and learn so much about each other. At this point we can now completely know each other's side without asking and we can say "I'm mad, and I'm going to allow myself to be mad for a few minutes, but I know you're perspective and I don't think you're wrong." And then after just a couple minutes it's like the argument never happened.
A year or even two really isn’t that long to be so up in arms about “marry me or leave!” It’s definitely a topic that should have come up seriously but like, chill, just enjoy all the time spent with the other person. Hell, I’m ten years into a relationship(got engaged last year)and I’m still learning new things or hearing new stories from my guys life. You could be together 50 years and still learn new things about your significant other.
@@juliekennedy9891 same. Honestly I want to get married young but I also don't want him to be like a sadist and I find out only after we're married. Lmao
@@pussydestroyer69285 Yeah, I won’t be young. I am 40 and that is part of why I don’t feel like waiting that long for marriage. Also, I am putting a ton of prayer into my partnership and only marrying the person who God leads me to-so I have no worries!😀😀😀
Yeah. That just seems like a really good way to ruin an otherwise wonderful relationship. Although something tells me that none of these couples were at any risk of doing that lol
I understand Alexis. She’s tall, skinny, and blonde and that’s 70% of her identity so of course it’s the biggest attack on her ego for a guy to express that he’s not attracted to her. Imagine going your entire life never getting your way because a few physical attributes make you the type of every man you’ve ever encountered until now. Many women don’t want to be fetishized because of what they look like but she really gets off on it.
I’m SO pro-marriage! I’m 22 years old, and I would love to eventually get married one day. I want a healthy and long marriage like my parents have. That being said, I rather die alone than have to give a man or woman an ultimatum to get them to marry me. That’s not true love.
Well said. And good luck. It's rough dating nowadays. From what I hear. I'm married. And I don't envy you single peeps. Marriage is a partnership that requires 100 of both if you. Amd remember that the fire of love dims, but it's your duty to each other to find the wood and set it ablaze again.
Marriage is a big decision and People like the ones in the shoe blow my mind. I’ve always wanted to get married. (Am now) my husband and I met 19 and 21 (1.5 year difference) and we dated 4.5 years engaged 2. I think that’s a good time line for people in there 20s. Cause you get to know the person really well and your brain gets fully developed at some point.
Exactly! No one should beg for a proposal/marriage. The other person should want to marry you. I would much rather wait for the person to be ready or move on if they say they don't want to. Why would you want to marry someone you forced to marry you? Doesn't make sense to me
@@miffedcuttlefish6139 Dating is truly awful. I had a guy ask me if I wanted to hold (see?) his sausage (I can't remember). I wasn't talking about sex, I was talking about volunteering at a dog rescue and how we either get underweight dogs or fat dogs that look like sausages. I let him know I wasn't interested and that kind of talk, then he tried again and I was done with him.
My coworker said he met Nick Lachey when he worked at a radio station. He said he was a total jerk to him within the first two minutes of meeting him. He also said Nick's wife was a saint.
Giving marriage or ANY relationship status change an expiration date PROVES you are not ready for a serious relationship. I am so sick of parents and adults pushing the two to three year dating time limit for marriage. My wife and I dated for six years. It takes some people longer to make sure it's right. Deal with it!
I've been married for almost 3 years. Marriage doesnt fix your problems. It gives you new and different problems. It also gives you the commitment of someone who is there for you and you can be there for them, and you can work through your problems.
Alternative title for The Ultimatum: Put your already on-the-rocks relationship at an even greater risk for some garbage TV show that encourages cheating
I’m like 90% sure Nate only proposed because he WANTED either Madlyn or Shanique, but they got taken. He would have ended up with Alexis (if Hunter didn’t propose) or ended up with April if he didn’t propose. He didn’t like either option, so he took Lauren even though the relationship still isn’t resolved. They’ll probably break up later on, Nate just didn’t want the two girls left over. This entire show is just so toxic man.
Leo is very unique where he puts everything into one video a lot of other TH-camrs would have split the video into a video series with different parts and made a playlist for it.
It's really not that unique. There's thousands of youtubers, the popular ones like to stretch things out. Don't forget this man shills any product to his audience for a little bit of money.
If someone, anyone, gave me the ultimatum of marriage or breaking up and we’d been dating for less then 5 years - it’s an instant break up. Even if I was considering marrying that person, that ultimatum is reason enough for me to break up with them. Trying to force or coerce someone into marriage is never cool - and to be willing to give that ultimatum you’d have to already be checked out somewhat. Because the ultimatum-giver has already made the choice in their mind that breaking up is better then still dating that person. If that’s how you feel, let’s break up then.
Why are you making your partner wait 5 years. I literally have men from my country tell me never date American men because they make you wait too long. More than two years is too long.
kids vs no kids attempt at relationship always triggers in me a sort of primal rage. there was a guy who was trying to get with me for YEARS (despite my telling him flat out I wasn't interested in him) and one of (his) hang ups was him wanting kids and me not only not wanting kids (I don't like kids sorry) but wanting even less to be pregnant. he tried SO HARD to change my mind about kids. I don't know why this guy was so damn invested. he kept trying to say he was in love with me, despite getting frustrated with several of my core personality traits. like, dude, when are you going to realize that you're not in love with me, you're in love with YOUR IDEA of me. christ. this dude knew me in friggin middle school and whenever he tried to ask me out and I turned him down he would turn to my best friend standing RIGHT NEXT TO ME and ask her out. so glad he finally lost contact with me.
Had an ex admit he was hoping he could change my mind and he constantly disrespected any reasons I came up with on why I didn't want kids, and he never took my real reason seriously being that I never felt the desire to and I simply don't want them. Like damn.
@@umiusagiseabunny9023 this was before most social medias. Like, Myspace era, and I never had one of those. (TH-cam didn't even exist when we were in highschool.) He didn't have my phone number, and we've both moved states since then. (Multiple times, in my case.)
As a currently married person, with a lot of baggage, my husband and I made it a point to have every fight we needed to have before we got married. Not only did we get everything out in the open but we were able to decide if our differences were big enough to break us. Now, as a married couple, we almost never fight because we got it all out when we were dating. If one of us had dropped an ultimatum before the other was ready we would have been such a toxic couple, but we aren’t because we didn’t try to rush into anything. This show is so unhealthy
@@0spacesuicide I mean, the best way to do it is to get everything out in the open. Once you have the conversation that you might want to get married, start being unapologetically open about things. Remember: if it’s a small problem while dating, marriage is only going to make it bigger. So have the tough conversations and don’t be afraid of fighting about it. It’s better, of course, to keep the conversation calm so you can talk things through. That’s why we established ground rules. Ours best one was a code phrase that basically meant “I am getting too angry to talk rationally, we need to pause this conversation until I calm down”. I think we used something random, like “pomegranate”. Whatever rules you decide, you need to stick to. There’s more I’m sure but that’s what I remember off the top of my head. Hope this helps!
The Shanique and Zay fight, my thoughts- they’re both upset about things they learned about their partners interactions with the other people but their partners aren’t there for them to express their feelings too and have their partners reassure them so they’re kind of looking to each other and neither of them can offer the other reassurance that they need because they’re obviously not the people so they end up in a fight that doesn’t make sense because they’re upset and the premise of this show is totally dysfunctional
@@Rebesag she wasn’t a virgin lmfaoooo not by any means, she talked a lot about how much unprotected sex she and Jake had. I think it’s actually just Colby’s inability to grasp the English language, he’s shown it before. I think he was trying to say being around him brought out a deeper and more mature side of April and kind of made her grow and come into her own. Sigh. Reading is free kids 💀
I think pre marriage counseling is a great thing. Especially with these couples. I think a lot would come out. Having marriage as an ultimatum after a year and half dating is crazy to me. Everyone is different but still. I mean I would understand if it was like 5 plus years but damn.
I think that even couples that are doing well should still see a pre marriage counselor. Its never wrong to be prepared and make sure you're actually ready even when you're happy.
Who else feels like Zay has just never been given ANY space to be emotional? Seeing him break down and Rae IGNORE him was hard. He has shit he needs to work on but I kinda feel like he barely gets a chance to do that because he just keeps getting told to man up or that his trauma is an excuse instead of something that literally shaped his childhood and thus his personality as well.
Can we talk about how one of Madeleine’s friends straight up admitted that she hooked up with Colby during her interview and that never comes back up???!!! Ugh I’m so glad I suffered this show through sixteenleo instead of actually watching it myself 😂☺️
@@martinaasandersen3775 I did as well and read into their vibes that they've all joked about it before, they seem like that typa friend group! Not swingers just free loving.
I really hate when people go through the LONG process, of their OWN choosing, to get on a show, only to act like they don't know what the show is about!?! Just DON'T sign up then! Plus, you shouldn't need to FORCE your partner into doing the show! 🙄🤦 This show is exactly like "Temptation Island"! 🙄
Yes! This! I immediately thought of Temptation Island when I heard the term "worst reality show". I would pay for Leo to cover Temptation Island, this is a trash festival
There might be a lack of communication from what the show is about while applying because they want to show to be a surprise when it releases. But you'd think by the time they're on the show they'd know. I don't watch a lot of these shows but it's a pet peeve
I know people who produce these shoes. One, when they cast the show, it hasn't been shot. They pitch it in a way that will draw people in to participate. Two, once they shoot the show, only then do they know what the show will be. Three, they edit heavily, so the show you watch may not resemble anything like the original pitch. The original pitches get posted a lot to acting communities and they NEVER sound as crazy as they ultimately are.
Happily married for almost 19 years; we dated for a year when we talked about what's next and after talking about what marriage meant to us we decided to get married. Shortly after he told me that he knew he wanted to marry me after about two months. After thinking about it I figure it was about four months for me. It really wasn't complicated at all.
Same for me and my husband. He promised himself to me after 3 months and I knew I wanted to be his wife after our first trip together at 4 months. We got married after a year and also 5 months of living together. Have genuinely never been more secure in the idea of marriage
Out of everyone April did the best in the aftermath! She’s so beautiful and happy Pregnant now in a happy relationship I love that for her, she deserves it
If you have to demand that someone proposes to you or marries you…..pretty sure the relationship is doomed!!🫢 Alexis looks like she could be Jeffree Star’s sister!!!👀
I'm so glad you talked about Alexis and her reaction. So entitled. "Omg how can a guy not like me I'm soooo attractive". While i disagree with that statement, so does Colby and that should be okay. She actually went and talked to Madeline about it. Moreover the couples that got married are the ones we would have bet could not.
Let me tell you how stupid it is to expect marriage and relationships to work just after a year or two. I started dating my wife 12 yrs ago. We got married 6 years ago. Just last year we achieved a level of understanding, communication and vulnerability where for the first time we can truthfully say our relationship has matured enough where we now feel confident saying we have a solid relationship. So, the fact these people are calling for ultimatums means they have so much work to do in that relationship before they are ready to decide this is the person I would be willing to, would love to and know I would spend the rest of my life with.
@@JanelleDianeH Yeah, my dad proposed after 3 months. Mom said, "Hell no, are you nuts?" He proposed again at the 6 month mark and they're on 20 years.
Some people are on the same page from the very start. If things change, then it could be the people changed or they weren't honest in the beginning. Otherwise, 12 years feels way too long for me to wait to be in a strong relationship. If it doesn't feel strong after a few months, then I am out. That stuff pressures you into changing for the other person just to make it work (which it doesn't).
Really glad you called out that one slimey girl for trying to pressure that one guy (I don't care about these people's names) into sex. As someone who wants to wait until marriage, it's super shitty to pressure anyone into sex.
Damn, I would have given Jake an F because he clearly used April's fertility issues as birth control. So they have unprotected sex which she says multiple times, she's clearly waiting for a "happy accident" so he'll actually step up, but he said he's not even financially ready. So why isn't he insisting on protection regardless? It just gives her false hope which we saw at the engagement. That's a cruel thing to do to a partner with those issues and desperately wants children. Jake is a 🤡
@@Vaga-Bard if the girl is clearly and transparently saying, I am not using birth control because I want a baby, and the guy doesnt use on protection, she has in no way trapped him. She's clearly set her stall out and explained what she wants. That would be the equivalent of saying hello here is some alcoholic drinks that I have laid out for us to drink all night and we can get totally wasted, keep drinking till three in the morning etc, and then you being angry that you drank them and got drunk and got a hangover.
Lol women and their advanced scheming. “He gives her false hope by having unprotected sex with her because she wants a baby, and he’s using it, and he moves bishop to G5 and pawn to B4 and they’re both playing out scandinavian defense…” Lady… dude just wants to fuck raw. That’s it.
@@Vaga-Bard She's not trapping him. She's not poking holes in the condoms. They're having unprotected sex and he's hoping she won't get pregnant because of her infertility issues, she's not infertile, there's still a risk and he's taking it.
Oh man, a lot to say. Leo, you forgot the part where Jake tells April on Ultimatum day that he's not just gonna go run off with Rae, but then after breaking up he literally goes straight to her and offers to run off anywhere in the world. Most of the couples were insufferable though. I liked Randal, I actually liked April for the most part (I hated that she went through his phone, but I hated Jake even more and while I'll say he had every right to be angry at her, I don't think it absolved him of responsibility for what WAS there). Zay I almost liked, but he needed to work on the attitude a lot. Everyone else though just, fuck man. And Alexis needs to learn that there is more to attraction than just physical appearance. Colby just said he wasn't attracted to her, that could easily have been because of her views on money. Also, I'm not gonna lie, I found the editing really obnoxious a lot of the times. Found it more distracting than anything. But it was a huge project and it was still very well done, I still liked it
I loved the little friendship between Colby and April, before it became so apparent how much Colby sucked. April is a whole hoot, I loved the moments where she suddenly started calling everyone out
I felt weird for April. Like i wanted to root for her. Though not with jake. Guess she benefited greatly from the show by breaking up with him though. She seems happy w a new guy now.
I love how the girl is trying to knock Colby by saying the sex wasn’t “rememberable”, as if she had no part in the sex not being good lol. Sex takes two people, and typically good sex is because both people push each other to their limits. If the sex wasn’t good, maybe it’s because you laid there on your back doing the “flaccid scarecrow” like you said lol!
This is so morally corrupt. Disgusting that "happily" married celebrities would create a show to try and ruin other people's relationships. And now that I think about it, if you have to go on this show....was it really a good union in the first place?!?!? But over all, very disturbing show. Thanks for the delightful commentary as always 😜 I'm totally binging your channel on my work hiatus rn 🤗
I would love to see a reunion, Leo. Your opinions and comments are so highly agreeable for me. Your take on these perspectives really just makes my day, since you appear to be such a kind person.
After that line from Colby about how he wants to be known as "her man," my bf and I now refer to him as "Herman" and that's the only thing that's getting me through the season
Shows like this bother me on so many levels. For one it feels super exploitative, given these are insecure people and then you put them into a situation where you prey upon that insecurity. Then you throw in the idea of "hooking up" with someone else and the pressure of an ultimatum. That is just adding fuel to the drama fire. A better way to do this is to have licensed marriage counselors there to talk to the couples and help them try to work through their issues and if they can not, part on decent terms and learn healthy dating habits. But alas, that does not make Netflix cringe. Disclaimer: This is coming from a currently single 30-year-old who hates these shows since they set unrealistic expectations of relationships.
@@ixyc what's the point of dating, then? If you're not dating to find a potential life partner then your just hurting your chances of actually bonding with someone.
@@miffedcuttlefish6139 You can date someone for life without marriage though. Where I live its pretty normal not to get married but stay together for their lives.
@@jjdelft3216 okay. What's the rate that those domestic partnerships remain? Also what are the feelings from the children that are the products of those partnerships? I'm not asking to be a dick.🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's a genuine question. (InB4 someone wants to start getting booty bothered?
Leo, when you imitated Madlyn by saying "What made you attracted to me?" while retreating into your couch all slouched over and in a raspy voice, that made me bust out laughing so hard! Hilarious when girls do stuff like that. Thanks my man!
I actually broke up with someone last year cos I realized I didn't wanna marry him. That being said, there's so many couples (usually same-sex ones) that stay together for 30 years before getting married. If you're with someone that's truly meant for you, it's gonna be a committed relationship no matter what. I don't know what it is with these types of people that think marriage, children or even a threesome is gonna solve whatever relationship issues they might have.
For me it's just societal and peer pressure. I'm turning 21 in a couple of months and don't even have a commited romantic relationship, but when I see half my classmates and other peers already married with children (!), presumably living their best lives as it seems on the social media, I kinda can't help wanting marriage in the future. I swear, it's the weirdest feeling. Especially bcos I'm still SO YOUNG, not to mention a bisexual and genderqueer so I've broken many societal and peer expectations already, so would it really be so weird if I just never got married?? Of course not! But the pressure is still there, even if no one literally tells me "get married! Have kids and do it all before 30!!", Comments like "so, what's going on in ur *personal* life" or "do you have a bf? No? Ur grown up already, go get a MAN (very biphobic btw)" r triggering enough lol So yeah, some things we just can't help but I'm working on my mindset and hope everyone else who feels like they have to get married bcos almost everyone around them has managed to find "the one" realizes what I too need to realize- Everyone has a different path and the less we care about others' opinions, the better. Others will always be others.
I did that with my first bf. He was a really great guy and I’m still friends with him, but he wasn’t quite what I needed. So I broke it off before his sister got engaged and everyone started asking us more than they already were. I had just turned 22 and wasn’t ready. I made sure my current bf knows my timeline of when I want to be settled and ready for kids, even though it’s years away. We were already talking about kids and such, so I brought up because having children is important to me. If he had no intentions of having kids, or if me having babies in my early 30s would be an issue, I would’ve wanted to know before I got super attached. Esp since we’re long distance. Even still, I haven’t rushed him into calling me his gf.
@@lumilenm__m5304 I hear you! I've almost completely written off dating women because of how homo/biphobic my parents and relatives are. I'm 25 right now and I'm in a constant battle between feeling like I'm running out of time to get married and reminding myself that I don't need to rush. Everyone has their own pace but it's definitely hard to ignore external pressure.
@@tealablu3759 I'm in a long distance relationship with a guy a few years younger than me. We've discussed the possibility of marriage and children but in a much more vague sense than I'm used to. Like, I had my first boyfriend at 17 and he was already thinking about kids and marriage. I definitely wasn't ready to have that conversation then. Currently, I'm able to discuss my views on those things much better but my boyfriend is not. He's open-minded but he's still not in a place where he's seriously considering it. So we're just taking it slow and I've been doing my best to not rush him into deciding anything.
Madelyn wanted this "experience", she took Colby for granted and thought he would stay or didn't argue back to anything. He wanted her in the beginning and wasn't the one who took this decision ti be on the show and now when they both had their "experience", she regrets it. She wanted it all. She was so over Randell, like "over him"😉 for real. This was the absolute worst show, but to be fair, there's MANY of them on some format like this. Leo is such a champ for actually watch ALL of the episodes and still have his brain intact🏆
He told you he wasn’t attracted to you too, hu? Y’all get so pressed after rejection, it’s the best form of entertainment. “He recognizes I’m ugly, inside and out, I have to tear down a good guy so I like him less.” Classic.
Huh? How is it wrong to be nice? Sorry English is not my first language so I don't know if it's some kind of a term for something. But for me personally, being a nice person is a good thing.
Your advice is really good. I was single until I was 24, which was really hard. I desperately wanted a relationship, but the truth is I hadn't found one because I wasn't ready. When I started working on myself and putting the time into things that made me happy, it got much easier, and starting a relationship became a lot more natural.
Madlyn gives me the impression of being with a man just to have someone to come home to. She's not ready to settle down, but she doesn't want him to find someone else.
I honestly like long videos. Listening to them while doing other stuff is kinda comforting. I watched till the end of the video. Please keep up the good content, you're amazing. Hope you're doing well, and lot's of nice thoughts from Romania! 😊🤗
This show was honestly so deeply cringe only in clip form that I amazed you made it out alive from watching a whole season. All the contestants get an F simply for going on this horrid crapfest. Madlin is still somehow the worst.
Damn... My wife and I got married six weeks ago without telling anyone and honestly this video just made me reflect on how lucky we got finding each other ❤️
I really like that as a concept. It takes away the materialism of modern day weddings. Kinda like going back to the basics of it, choosing to be together. Hope all is still going well for you guys and you had a great first year of marriage, seeing as this comment is 11 months old!
Marriage is something that’s supposed to strengthen the bond you already have with someone, not a band-aid you try and slap on an already broken relationship. My husband and I got married 6 months ago, but we had been together 7 years before that, entirely long distance too with nothing but Skype calls and seeing each other once a year for a week. He’s moved to me now and despite not having lived together for more than a few days at a time beforehand we’re only closer and love each other more. That’s because we got married to solidify the bond we already made. Not to fix something that wasn’t working. Love ya SixteenLeo. You crack me up, thank you for sitting through such trash for our entertainment 👏👌💖
My parents only knew each other for 6 months when they got married. They were together for 20 years......then they divorced. I'm shocked they made it that long. lol
This show is an absolute fever dream! There is a small part of me that believes the conspiracy that they planted or at least picked some of the alternate couples. 😂
Same and it sucks bcuz people think that just cuz I'm crying with tears running down my face, it means any point I'm trying to make or anything I say is automatically just me being a pussy or hysterical or less of a man. Like no, I just am more in touch with my emotions and it means this is a big deal to me. People are just...yeesh
@@YeetTheMeat Right? Being able to express our emotions is actually a strength. I was just watching a video where a psychologist talked about how important it is to be able to express our emotions and to cry. I hate that some people view it as weakness or take people who cry less seriously.
@@strawberryycheescake exactly. People have this idea that to be strong you have to be this emotionless robot who lacks empathy and humanity but honestly the strongest people out here are the ones who have those emotions, who connects to their humanity, who can show vulnerability to others because it takes a lot to be emotionally vulnerable. It shows trust, confidence and love to that other person cuz ur saying "hey I really care about this deeply and i care about you" and I think that's beautiful. I hope humanity as a whole can move past this ignorant mindset that somehow having emotions is weak. Emotional maturity is a thing many people lack unfortunately.
I'm demisexual and romantic, so these shows always amuse me to no end, because i just don't understand the physical attraction at first sight, but i agree to an extent about sexual relationships with your partner. As long as you're both open and on the same page as each other, it doesn't matter if you have none or you have a lot, but you have to make sure you're both COMMUNICATING. Something all of these people lack to an epic proportion.
15:35 so true. In a relationship one person can't be the main priority. It's both. And I'm speaking from experience - my last relationship ended because of this. Be careful about giving yourself away for someone.
About Madeline Honestly I think that when a girls friend is in a relationship for a while and they come to them with relationship problems the friends try supporting them by taking their side and after a while it turns into an Echo chamber to a point where the guy is always gonna be looked at as the bad guy cause well friends support each other. A good friend tells you when you’re wrong or looking at something wrong. But please correct me if I have a misconception, I’d love a different perspective on this if there is one
Often times this “echo chamber” effect comes from being burned after attempting to be honest with a friend about their relationship. I’ve attempted to gently intervene in my closest friends’ toxic relationships, but almost always had to watch my friend go back to a horrible partner. Eventually you just attempt to be there for your friend, even if it means being part of an “echo chamber” it’s better than losing them completely.
This is so true, when I've had arguments with my SO my mother and friend always said "you're 100% in the right, dump him" even after me telling them all that I'd done wrong and them telling me I'm justified even when he does the same, he isn't, then I have another friend who genuinely wants to give good advice and actually listens to what I say and gives useful non-biased advice, that friend is more mature than my mother. My bf has said the same, he has had friends telling him to dump me without actually knowing the story. It was hard to get through to him "you realise both of our friends are telling us were right? It's obviously a friendship bias" because at the time he was taking his mates(who barely knew anything) opinions like gospel, started calling me a gaslighter when he didn't know what it meant(because his big brain friend), so I tell him what it means and show everytime he gaslighted me and that was the point he realized his friends opinions probably aren't that accurate, and also that it can be possible to have toxic traits without the intention of being bad
The awkwardness of telling your friend that her ex boyfriend was a scumbag and then having that same friend get back together with him... 😶 You either end up having to backtrack or end up having to continue talking shit about your friend's boyfriend and having her resent you.
I've gone to friends in the past when I've had relationship issues and in the end these friends saw my partners as the devil walking among us. Because I only told them the bad stuff. One has to be careful with what they're sharing.
That's the thing whoever made the show knew ,u can't fall in love that fast but you can develop Lust for people within 1 day and there relationships are already rocky ....They know exactly what there doing
This😳 was the longest, toughest, worst sanity sucking video I have ever done. Dont ever say i dont love you guys,
Thanks for your sacrifice loool - on the road to 500k woooo
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Whoa 2 hours!? Nicee
I stop fappin just to watch the release of you bud Leo
Thank you for taking this one for the team ❤ I really needed this tonight 🙏. Had me laughing out loud 😆 sitting here by myself lol
I was married for 26 years, we never fought. We had the odd niggle that lasted for probably 5 minutes and after half an hour or so someone would ask the other if they wanted a tea or coffee and life went on.
I'll never marry again as I'd never find another husband as perfect as he was. He was taken from me 3 years ago with cancer. He was my soulmate
that is beautiful ❤️
It sounds like you two had a wonderful relationship. I’m so sorry for your loss.
I'm so sorry for your loss, I'm glad you were able to meet your soulmate
Sending big hugs and thank you for your beautiful words 🙏
It's nice you were able to meet the person meant for you.
"Physical intimacy is a BIG part of the relationship".
So is CONSENT Madylyn.
Lol
*sexual anorexia has entered the chat *
She is such a huge red flag, nothing like guilt tripping people into sex🚩🚩🚩
@@natashanichole1027 wtf is that 💀
@@Itsselis no fr what is that..
the second proposal was the nuttiest insecurity impulse decision I've ever seen
Right?! He literally only proposed bc he didn't want her to choose Colby 🙄 So stupid and idk why the hell she said yes
@@heezypeasy8611 I think more so it was because noone chose him. If he'd been chosen by someone else and then Cody chose her he wouldn't have minded. He was LIVID that he thought he was being left unpicked
Totally just locked her down now to (probably) get her pregnant later. Red flags galore.
It's such a messed up show tbh, basically pushing people to get together and marry cause they're insecure and don't want their partner with someone else having a good time or possibly moving on from them. It's insane like who even makes a show like this lol. Reality TV is such a mess but it's hilarious. Also Alexis went and married her original partner cause Colby denied her and was left with no one cause she's actually unattractive.
creep just doesn't like to lose...what a D ick!
My parents disagreed on kids too. Obviously, the kid wanted won. My Mom DID love us and is glad she had us, and so am I-but it wasn’t like, the best childhood ever being raised by a woman who didn’t like kids in general and was always mad at us for being…kids. And depressed because she didn’t really like the Mom thing.
It’s a weird relationship and I have complicated feelings. She’s way better with us as adults. I’m glad I exist. But still. Maybe not ideal.
I think about things like that so often. It's good your mother loved you, and you have a good relationship with your mom, and I'm very happy for you that that's the case. But generally it should be understood that if you don't want kids, you shouldn't have kids, because it has the potential to really screw things up for them.
@@mikchimin I agree totally. But kids come into the world in less than ideal circumstances all the time. I'm supportive of people who don't want children, but I also HATE the way the childfree community talks about kids. It'd be nice if we could just be supportive of each other and kid loving (even if we're not kid liking, if that makes sense). I have three. I feel blessed to have wanted kids and been able to have them and to be in the exact circumstance I desired. Not everyone is so lucky. Life is messy all of the time. We don't always get to pick our own messes.
@@andianderson3017 that is very true, and I didn't really mean it in an all or nothing sense, so I'm very sorry it came off as that way. I mean more in the circumstances of something like compromising with a partner who wants kids who doesn't want kids themselves. Obviously things do happen, and when that is the case, it's the parents' responsibility above all else to love and raise that kid correctly. I'm just happy to see we're shifting away from societal pressure, and the expectation that you should have kids, even if you don't want them. The world is not black and white, and I believe above all else children should be the most important thing in any argument regarding the situation. Though I don't like kids personally, it's never my intention to be adamantly against them, or any situation in which someone who initially doesn't want kids. I know it's hard to generalize something like this and it was my bad. It just sometimes feels difficult to be a woman who doesn't want kids in a society where settling down and having kids is still the norm, so sometimes my frustration shines through my words, and that's something I need to work on. Overall, I do believe we're on the same side of the opinion, and I do hope and your kids have a wonderful day :)
I’m an unwanted child too!!!! I’m sorry for your experience and I resonate with you. My mom and I actually don’t have a relationship. She spent my entire life saying, “I didn’t want y’all, your daddy did” now we don’t speak. And I’m closer to my father. Isn’t she pissed? I’m simply fulfilling those wishes. She didn’t spend time with us in our childhood, and truthfully I don’t have many memories of her. I went to therapy b/c she worked a number on me. Couldn’t even get into a healthy relationship b/c of my mommy issues. I pray you were able to work through yours!! ❤
no fr. my mom didn’t want kids, and now she has 3. i’m almost an adult, and i’ve noticed since i was like 13ish she’s treated me better. she just didn’t want to raise children. and i can see why; she’s a middle school teacher💀
The mentality that marriage *automatically* just fixes all relationship problems is a big factor as to why divorce rates are so high (imo)
There are psychological and sociological statistics that back up your claim. *A lot* of people think marriage will fix everything and then that marriage comes crashing down, usually very quickly.
Also, people aren't talking about real issues and standing by their deal breakers (i.e. kids or no kids). I know people who didn't discuss or had opposing views to their spouse and are having issues bc one of them wants kids. My brother and his wife struggled to have children and went through IVF which was super expensive, then had the next baby w/o IVF. I went to visit them and I was exhausted bc the kids do not let up ever. I woke up at 6 am to my nephew leaning over me as I slept. I played with him and fed him so my brother and his wife could sleep in (the baby was still asleep). It's a big deal to have kids and both people have to be on the same page about it.
@@chembiz i’m sorry but waking up to a child hovering over me as i slept is my personal hell. unfortunately for the kid, my quick reflexes probably would’ve (at the very least) kicked him away out of fear and sheer confusion. kids are so weird & it’s good to know ahead of time wether you’d want them or not.
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@@positivevibesveda I gasped when I woke up bc his face was close to mine. My nephew then said, "Hi auntie." I totally get what you're saying, that's why people need to have the kid convo and not try to change the other person's mind. Nate and Lauren decided they'd have 1 kid as a compromise. Don't know how or if that's going to work out.
The fact that Randall looks like such an outstandingly great guy in this show just by being a normal person is hilarious
So true 😂
It is amazing how far just being a normal person will get you in comparison to reality show personalities
@@laurenmclane7710 hard in her :o
@@laurenmclane7710 oh I bet he was very hard in her
@@laurenmclane7710 should've kept that "in" in
Shanique seems like the person who's really good at identifying other people's problems but when it comes to her own she completely blind spots.
Sounds like allot of people
I agree because I can relate to her 😭
Takes one to know one!
That sounds like me! I’m trying to work on it 😂
she also happens to gaslight, manipulate, fake-cry and is self-absorbed.... but hopefully she really did learn and is trying to change.
then again, so was April.
The ultimatum is a television masterpiece. Haven't you ever wanted to see two people in a relationship talk almost exclusively about how they don't want each other and are falling in love with someone else after 8 days??
A few episodes in I would have listened to people trashing Colby all day! But I can't believe the two WORST guys ended up getting their way. 😭This show was more depressing than fun.
This was horrible!!! 😂😂😂
That blonde girl is crazy he never called her unattractive he just said he wasn't attracted to her.
I think it's just projection...she probably has low self-esteem but pretends like she doesn't just to react like this bc someone doesn't find her attractive
And it was too much for her! 😄
@@PrivateMrs.T Does Mrs.T pitty this fool? Lol
Definitely insecurity twisting his words
She can’t believe someone she’s interested in wouldn’t be interested
This is the most toxic thing ever, none of these people should be marrying each other and half of them genuinely need therapy.
Ten outta ten.
Everyone needs therapy.
I’d be astonished if any of them actually make it 3 more years together. Beyond their obvious self-absorbed narcissism, marriage is tough enough without all these doubts and infidelities right off the bat. Sad. I can’t even imagine treating my SO this way
I mean, anyone contemplating this show for anything other than a tiny paycheck or acting gig should contemplate therapy. And that’s not an insult
😂😂😂 tell us how you really feel
@@cabobo1600no lol Maybe everyone could benefit from it, but there are plenty of people who don’t need it.
Hmm... I think the worst reality TV show ever made was The Swan from 2004, where women went through several massive plastic surgery procedures and competed on a pageant based on who became the "prettiest". That show was VILE!
But this one seems really bad too.
That is so weird i just thought about that show!!!
Bruh this was the exact one I thought up in my head, along with the race switching show lol
Leo might can react to that show if we recommend it… it sounds horrible wonder what happened to the participants in that show?
I feel a similar way towards "Revenge Body". I just don't like it because people were trying to get healthy and in shape only to spite someone in their lives, obviously most often an ex. Not to mention it was hosted by Khloe Kardashian. And as much as I sympathize with Khloe without being a Kardashian fan, it's unfair to have her act as a role model when we know she has access to means and methods that common folk doesn't.
@@capnknuckies6969 The... the what???
Alexis looks like handsome squidward and she walks around like she’s the sexiest person ever.. I honestly feel like she expected people to think she was the hottest person on the planet and when no one wanted her as a partner she was like “ok well.. I love Randall anyways because no one else wants me”
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Handsome, badly designed, toxic squidward.
Not trying to lecture, but I do think there's plenty to critique about Alexis without bringing her appearance into it. Like, maaaaybe criticise based on a person's choices. They don't choose how they look. Obviously, you're completely entitled to do as you like, this was just food for thought.
@@kiracarver988 actually she did choose how she looks
@@cleobinx yeah, her nose doesn't look at all natural, but maybe it's just me idk 💀
this show was so terrible in so many ways, but i think instead of having young slim 20 something people who have been dating for 2 years at most, maybe they could have had people in their mid 30s and have been dating for more than a decade, which would have made a waaaay better show and more genuine and interesting
I thought that’s what this show was gonna be 😭
Nah
I was genuinely thinking that! Like 20 somethings have no idea who they are as a person let alone what they want in a partner. But putting 30+ somethings who ave been dating a decade or more without any hint of marriage or leaving the other spouse would have proved more interesting and actually, oddly enough, more realistic. They had only been dating a year or two, these young people have no idea what life has to offer. My aunt has been dating her on and off again boyfriend for more than a decade and wants to marry him (no idea why) and he is very wishy washy. They break up for a time then end up back together because they are both equally terrible people in different ways. In my honest opinion, neither of them should marry each other and could just continue on as they are. My aunt is in her fifties and her boyfriend I believe is around the same age.
Ha! That's me. Excellent comment..
That is a terrific idea! But the thing is the stakes would be genuinely really high then. When you have 10 years invested in a relationship and you turned to your partner and say where is this going and the answer you get isn't the answer you hoped for... that is some serious drama! And some truly life changing decisions would be made in that scenario. It would be great to watch but might actually be cruel to the contestants. (Stakes that high and potentially devastating honestly also might make it great to watch so I kinda hate myself now.)
They've given all the contestants metal cups for their drinks even while out at a bar because the drink levels are an easy way to spot continuity issues. These shows always edit and twist the heck out conversations for extra drama.
Yep. The incredible thing is that at some of the cocktail hours the sheer number of drinks they're consuming let you still spot continuity issues!
I like to look at the people in the background because they don’t get the metal cups lol
@@nickiodayum5802 I actually saw a lot of people in the background with those cups 😂
Aaaah thank you! I was wondering about that, I thought it had to do with the amount of alcohol itself
@@nickiodayum5802 You, my friend, are a genius
My girlfriend and I watched the entire season and my god. This was probably the 1st ever reality that I rooted for no one. But if there’s a next season, we’ll definitely watch it
It's like the train wreck you can't look away haha
The secondhand embarrassment I felt through this show was IMMACULATE
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So cool haha
What service did you watch it from?
They should’ve called the show the hall pass because it’s basically just giving your partner a whole pass to do whatever they want for three weeks or then get back together
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I forced myself to sit through the entire show just because I knew...I just knew someday Leo would be covering it. That's how much we support you!
We should have a fan group lol
"I forced myself" he wouldn't want that for you, he wants a healthy interpersonal relationship with his viewers. We support him but it has to healthy. You wasted 10hr of your life hoping it'd make you closer to someone you only see on screen once a week or 2. Its different if you guys hangout to watch it.
@@moxiemaxie3543 Jesus Christ that was rough.
Same! The only reason I watch at least the first 3 and the finale of most of these shows is so I can watch the commentary on them 😂
That’s why I didn’t watch it lmao
I love how Alexis wanted Colby, got rejected, and NOW she's so absolutely in love with her partner
Exactly!! 🤣
And Colby is the devil👹
Really shows u how 90% of ppl get stuck with each other
She’s not in love with him. She’s playing him even harder now cus she now sees she probably can’t get anyone else with that attitude.
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As a photographer one of the weddings I worked at I was with the groom and groomsmen doing a photo shoot. The groom seemed really not into it. I tried to make conversation by asking ,”so what made you pop the question ?” He said that he was given a choice at 2 years dating. “she said marry me or we are done” and then chugged a pitcher of beer. Yeahhhh super awkward
2 years that's crazy. I've known my fiancé for 7 years (dating for 3) and I was still surprised when he asked me.
So he was the real-life embodiment of Bradley Cooper in He’s Just Not That Into You. 😂 Jeez… what a mess.
He should have bailed.. at 2 years risking half of everything you have is a bad bet.. and honestly if she cared about him she wouldn't have done that. Poor bastard.
Riiigghhtttt
@@Vaga-Bard I agree he should have left, but I think either partner has the right to say, "I need to know whether this relationship is leading to marriage because that's a priority of mine, and if it's not I don't want to stay in it."
One thing I will say about Shanique is that when it came to other people including Zay (even when they had disagreements) she would remain relatively level headed and wouldn't go off yelling or screaming. She was very insightful when she gave him the advice about using his past issues as a crutch. She even took Madelyn's taunting in great stride. But when she was with Randall it's like she just completely loses her ability to act maturely.
knowing how these shows work, it was probably a director choice to try and make her and randall look like an awful couple
Well they might be meant to be. See, she can truly let go and just be herself with him. 😅😂😅
I have a sister in a toxic relationship rn and she is like that with her boyfriend especially drunk
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Jake: "Rae and I aren't gonna run off into the sunset together."
Also Jake: buys plane tickets for him and Rae to go anywhere they want 😂🤦
I SCREAMED when i heard that, i knew damn well he was gonna leave with her. I was also shocked to see in the end she didnt go with him bc she was still in love with Zay? What a plotwist
@@cinnabunny4640 seriously. My sister and I were like "that's exactly what you're doing"!! 😂 I liked Zay! He had issues but who doesn't?! But lord that show was a mess!
@@cinnabunny4640 fun fact: Rae was dating a girl while she was dating jake and she says I wanted to feel that relationship out. I think she wanted to work out a friendship w Zay at the end of the day but I believe in her mind saying yes to that trip would be like making it official w jake and I don’t think those were ever her intentions. I think he was a stepping stone to verifying Zay wasn’t the one while simultaneously having someone there to distract her from the heart break of the break up since her side chick wasn’t there.
@@mstr_door404 omg you’re right! I almost forgot about that. Then i truly dont know why Zay was yelling at her in the end “ we were fucking”, i honestly thought she didnt wanna leave with Jake bc she still had feelings for Zay but if she’s dating a girl then idk, its all so confusing
@@cinnabunny4640 I feel like a lot of it was to promote their socials in the end of it all. Notice how none of them have posts since before that. It’s hard to know what their lives were like before. A lot of it could just be them trying to start a Career in media.
This show could've been over so fast if they just paired them up with a pre marriage counselor. The goal is to ask the hard questions and essentially see if the couple is ready to get married. Clearly none of the couples are. There is no need to rush marriage.
Now that’s something I’d watch. I’d watch a pre-marriage counselor set these people right.
My brother and his wife before they got married, my brother felt he wasn't ready to marry until he felt he was making enough money for both of them if for any reason she couldn't work. He finally did and they both eventually became homeowners. They were together 5 years until my brother finally popped the question and both are living happily together.
I swear these reality shows are like: "Let's get the most toxic people together in the world and put them on a show together!"
And yes I'd like to see you react to the reunion.
Well normal non toxic people would do crazy things like communicate their issues like adults, attend couples therapy or better yet not sign up for these shows in the first place and thats not nearly enough drama to create the trainwrecks that keep people watching
I mean what non toxic person would even agree to a show like this? Dating shows are one thing but this they are agreeing to essentially swap partners to see if they better match others which is itself inherently unhealthy for a relationship.
I hate when men get called gentlemen, for not taking advantage of a drunk person. We shouldn't give praise for the bare minimum. It would be great if not doing that was the norm.
That wont happen for awhile yet, least its changing defiantly since i was a teen.. ppl would boast if the slept wit someone that was too drunk to remember, they would say oh she was so drunk falling around passing out etc, then they fu#k her and laugh about it, commenting she was like a sack off potatoes. Oh it used to be disgusting and the norm, the word consent didn't exist, yoi were just a drung wh#re and thats it.. men chasing girls that were that drung, i stopped a couple off incidents in my time when i seen the girl too drunk and the guy sober trying to take them away
What if both are drunk, the man is stronger he should know better?
@@oranebrown2169 that's a tough one, there's no black and white with these situations n
@@oranebrown2169 what are you saying?? that drunk men can take advantage of women??
That was a thing in the 1950s. Unfortunately you won’t find a lot of people like that now….
My GOD that's such a long time to dedicate to such a terrible show. Thank you for the video! This will help me get through packing my house up!
That’s what I’m doin right now, too! It sucks! Lol What else you listenin to?
I dated a guy once who used to go through my phone and stuff- nothing ever there. Should have been a red flag for me. Guy had MAJOR insecurity and jealously issues because he cheated in a past relationship and kept telling me he felt karma would get him one day. Yeah, when I left you for being a psycho.
Had a girlfriend that did the same, hell my phone practically became hers. She also would say I was flirting with cashiers because I said "hi, how are you" or "hi, how is your day going" said that to both guys and chicks same tone of voice and eye contact
A lot of people are shit, not a man thing nor a woman thing. It's a human trait
Not always but often people who are accusing someone of cheating are often cheating themselves. I don't know why this is usually the case. Experienced this myself. It's like the more insecure they are the more they feel better about themselves to have a side chick or guy, but also having a guilty conscience. Like, telling themselves you're doing it or something else wrong to, so "I'm justified in my actions."
I had a boyfriend who would do the same thing, but it was long distance. He said he wasn’t comfortable with me hanging out with my male friend, and reasoned it by saying that he was the male friend of a girl and she cheated on her bf with him, and now he has trust issues because of that. Like… sir you did the bad thing??!!
My ex would do this too! Nothing was ever there, but he would always twist a reason to get pissed if a guys name ever popped up on my phone. He even cussed out a gay guy for talking to me! He broke up with me and told all his friends(including my brother) I cheated after I saw an old friend at school and he messaged me later on facebook mentioning us meeting. My ex wasn't even on my phone for that, he literally hacked my facebook regularly from his home computer and would yell at me over the things I said(or just things said TO me). He then came back 2 weeks later crying over what a mistake he made and was dumbfounded when I absolutely refused to get back with him. Thankfully my current SO has never once asked to see my phone and is completely fine with me hanging out with people of any gender. I resent that my own family still believes lies, but it is what it is.
Marriage doesn’t solve anything. I realized on my honeymoon in Ireland that I had just compounded our problems by letting myself be pushed into it. Three years later we were divorced and absolutely hated one another.
It's like having kids to "save the relationship"
@@Hanna-bh6tk or staying together for a kid. Always ends bad.
So my partner and I have a healthy, non toxic, adult relationship and we achieve this by not going on TV and sleeping with other people but to each their own.
Same here. But i can understand how some people might find a long term normal relationship boring after a while and resort to the thrill of having affairs .. im not proud but i used to be like that when i was maybe 15
Alexis just wants her ego fed. If no one is giving her validation, they need to be destroyed. Which is absolutely ridiculous, not everyone is to everyone's liking and that's fine. Also, her fixation with Colby not being attracted to her seems more like she's attracted to him cause that was the first/few times someone had turned her down or showed her no interest.
She’s used to getting what she wants. She came off as a spoiled brat to me
She's either extremely insecure or extremely narcissistic and I'm not sure which
@@s4di.3 sometimes they’re one and the same since Narcissists project their inflated selfworth while personally feeling like their worthless
@@s4di.3 Insecurities and narcissism go hand in hand, their egos are large but also extremely fragile.
Definitely get an incel calling a girl an “ugly bitch” after they get rejected vibes from her
I think Colby sucks for how he acted like cheating on Madelyn was a kind act for the betterment of their relationship (and also somehow her fault??). But Madelyn being so incredibly pushy about Randall sleeping with her and getting all whiny and cagey when he said no was so icky. Maybe y’all deserve each other.
He didn't cheat, they weren't together, that's the whole point of the show
i was suspicious of colby from the start! he was a little too perfect, yanno?
How did he cheat?
Lets all just be happy they took eachother off the singles market😅
colby didn't cheat??
I can't imagine, cameras or not, that a marriage that begun with an ultimatum wouldn't hold some resentment for the partner who was forced to choose. It's just not a healthy beginning to a marriage.
actually my parents marriage kinda begun with an ultimatum, and they are still happily together after 24 years of a relationship and around 18 years of marriage, however my parents did really work on themselves afterwards (especially my dad, he had anger issues and basically had an intense fight with my mom, he basically told her (screamed I think?) they either should split up or get married and my mom softly and sweetly said "okay", my dad asked "okay what?" and my mom calmly said "okay, I'll marry you"
It wasnt the greatest way of asking someone to marry you but for them it worked out, probably also because they were already a lot older, had two kids and 5 years together
@@orangeleprachaun4723 lol, same with my parents, 25 years married happily. My Dad's job took him all over the western US and after dating a few months my Mom started following him. And also took control of his finances because he is so bad with money, so in a way they were already married.
Flash forward 2 years, my mom marched up to my dad and declared "If you're gonna keep dragging me all over the country, you better mary me!" He said something like, "um, okay." And a trip to the Las Vegas court house later they were married!
Yeah, really sounds like a bad foundation to start a relationship on, especially a marriage. I don't get the focus on marriage much anyways, why can't you just enjoy being with your partner nonetheless? My parents have been together 30~ years and aren't married, you don't have to be to live a happy life with someone.
*points shotgun at prospective mate* Marry me, or else.
Yeahhhhh, solid beginning, rofl
I don't know why marriage is the ultimatum....I mean...for me it would be things like kids or a house.
Your channel is so much fun, but also (generally) non-toxic and very wise-appreciate your content.
Madelyn has a drinking problem. I'm saying this as someone who struggled with using alcohol as an escape when I was in a miserably abusive relationship. I'm not saying she's in one but she's CLEARLY miserable with Colby and they're terrible together.
Actually all of them are miserable together. It's crazy.
I thought the exact same thing about her, she was drunk for at least half the scenes, and the only time i felt like Colby was actually a good partner was when he took her glass away
I mean they met at a bar... I'd believe she had a drinking problem before even meeting colby
She definitely has a drinking problem but she's also a pretty terrible person who tried to get with someone else hard and then crawled back her actual boyfriend when she got knocked back.
Update: what the fuck just happened at the end
I also went through and abusive relationship and colby gives those vibes a lot hes like scary and gaslighty deep down. At first i thought he was chill and as the show kept going just reminded me more and more of my ex
She’s an alcoholic and loves sex, two personality traits that are dangerous as hell to have. Even if she is happily with a person, technically under the law the sex she’d have would be rape if she was drunk. Messy, messy, dangerous behavior, not just for her but for her partner.
Colby and Madlyn belong together - if only to save everyone else from having to accidentally end up on a date with the two worst people on Earth.
Like Raava and Vaatu- they must battle each other for the rest of time for the sake of all humanity.
Did i just make a Legend of Korra reference on a video about a dating show in 2022? yes I did...
"It was very good of God to let Carlyle and Mrs. Carlyle marry one another, and so only make two people miserable and not four."
-Samuel Butler about his friends Thomas Carlyle and Jane Welsh Carlyle
I don't you met a lot of people if you think they are "bad" "the worst" 😂😂😂😂
I hope she keeps that 'best friend' too so nobody has to deal with that shit. Seems like the type to turn and hook up with Colby after they're over 🤣
@@dannieon I hate Raava & Vaatu mythos, but so i do hate Colby & Madlyn, so it fits perfectly Bravo! ahsuohasouhaosuhas
I feel like there was a huge difference in how this show was communicated to the audience vs. the participants. The message to the audience: "You will be with this person to see what life is like with someone who isn't your partner. Then you will spend time with your partner for comparison and decide whether you want to continue your relationship, take it to the next level, or break up." The participants: "I am broken up with my partner and ready to start dating with no consequences in the foreseeable future!"
The one couple I know that got married because of an ultimatum had the most painful and awkward divorce. It’s a bad idea. If YOU are unwilling to wait, YOU leave. Don’t put that decision on them.
At first I thought the Colby/Zay fight was really random, but I kinda get it now. Colby was basically trying to use Zay as a scapegoat so he could dodge accountability for cheating outside the confines of the experiment. So, instead of Colby (rightfully) being the bad guy, he tried to push that off on Zay.
Ooh snap you right I get the fight now, thanks for the insight and you right but Zay wasn’t having it. That means Zay found out what Colby was doing. Ooh
Yes, what a dickswab! Zay was rightfully pissed!
@@rachaelsimms6848 Hey what’s up Rachel? Cool name haha
Not cheating, Madilyn was doing the same thing
@@CakeLord7 She was sleeping with guys at the bar?
As a general rule, if you need to give any ultimatum just take the "failure" option.
And if anyone gives you an ultimatum you probably need to cut them loose.
I don’t think every single ultimatum is absolutely cursed and could never be a good relationship. Say someone has been dating for 10 years and still isn’t married (given they’re not a same sex relationship) I would understand an ultimatum. It’s easy to look at relationship black and white like that but that’s not how all relationships work, if any.
@@magicallydelicious1673 10 years and not married? You know the answer already.
@@magicallydelicious1673 yeah so you described the exception.. and that isn't the rule..
The rule is, if someone gives you an ultimatum they probably don't care the way they should.. and considering divorce means losing half your sh*t you should immediately cut em loose.. otherwise there's a 90% chance your losing half your sh*t and your kids. Depending on how wild the woman is it could be worse than that. 50% and the kids is the minimum.. doesn't include child support, medical bills, court battles for visitations and so on..
The general rule is correct. The exception to the rule is exactly that. The exception..
Congrats tho. I was with my wife 8 years before we got married, Ben 4 years since then..
I don't think there's a problem with an ultimatum if the person delivering it genuinely means what they say. They should've never made it to the show. If any of them were serious about their ultimatums, they would've broken up a few minutes after they were issued and the other partner didn't comply. I think, is it "do Xyz or I'm leaving"...sort of like a boundary, or is it "I want you to do Xyz so I'll threaten to leave as manipulation"???
The show is definitely the manipulation option.
@@Pistonrager The real question is, what does marriage mean to that couple? If you've been together for ten years and haven't signed a piece of paper that promises them to eachother... what does that piece of paper give you that you don't already have? Some stupidly expensive party? Buy a house with that wedding money as the deposit and call it a day.
Alexis has been taught all her life that 1 her looks are ultimately the most if not only important thing about her and 2 that all men want it from all women all the time. So the rejection (which probably also came from her saying she wants the guy to be rich!) hit her core beliefs about herself and her worth. (Just to point out, I haven’t watched it, I’ve watched other reviews. Ok, I tried to watch it but fell asleep during the second episode because IT’S SO BORING!!)
fr she's like a caricature. also this is gonna sound mean but I'm astounded at her ego because imo she's the least good-looking woman there. i mean yeah she's pretty but in a very generic way.
@@cocolime6496 reality tv always picks caricatures!
I completely agree! I know people in real life JUST like her and you’re absolutely right: to be told they are not attractive is THE MOST vile, horrendous thing you can say to people like her. It’s mind-boggling and sincerely unbelievable but it’s their world: we are all just living in it 😂
Saoooooo fking boring / I couldn’t make it past E1 🤢🥴🤢🥴🤮🤮
She reminds me of Jeffrey Star
What all these people seem to forget is after the wedding comes the rest of your life.If you are already miserable and bitchy together it says you're in for a horrible life. Being married is not always roses and sunshine. If you're not sure don't bother. Get a cat.
To be fair, it's been a long ,long time since marriage was "a commitment for life". It's more a "commitment until we get bored or things become routine, or you chew too loudly".
Speaking for myself, my husband and I moved in 6 months after we began dating, and married the following year. We were together for 43 years, until his death in 2020. Both of us were on the same page all down the line. I have to laugh at these people. My husband and I had rough patches over the decades that lasted longer than some marriages! But the marriage and friendship was our top priority and I'd do it all again.
I adore you, Leo! You will make someone a wonderful husband.
That's really lovely Valerie. And I completely agree. I'm sorry about the passing of your Husband. My nan and grandad got married after 6 weeks of knowing eachother, and were together for 36 years before my nan passed. I don't necessarily think everyone is going to have such smooth sailing, especially in cases where people just grow apart. However, if my generation were more patient when it came to love, I think people's long term happiness would be much better off. Everything's such a race.
Kind of defies the point. Marriage basically exists to make ending the relationship difficult, lol. If you don't plan to be with someone forever, never marry them.
@@cosmo588 I never understood the "grow apart" thing. Like okay just grow back together then. U fell out of love? Just fall back in love again. Especially if u made a lifetime VOW to be with that person forever. I know it's easier said than done but if both ppl are focused on the marriage part then work hard guys come on. Especially if u have kids. The only time I'd say divorce is ok is cheating, lying, abuse, the other person doesn't try and just ignores u meanwhile you're trying your hardest, and sever neglect. Otherwise why would u leave?
@@pussydestroyer69285 of course parents should try to do their best to work things out if they’re having troubles. Unless it’s abuse, cheating etc. as you said. Then it’s necessary to leave. However, if you haven’t personally fallen out of love with someone and grown apart, you can’t understand what it’s like. Maybe it’s possible for some people to rekindle their former emotional attraction, but sometimes the best decision for both parties is to go your seperate ways. I don’t think anyone should feel shamed for wanting a divorce if they feel it’s the best decision, unless of course it’s for financial gain or something very selfish. That’s a whole other convo. But regardless, I think it does more harm then good to shame people into staying in unhappy relationships.
Look, I’m a strict monogamist. I never really “dated” around because in my personal view, I’m either going to end up breaking up with this person or marrying them, so if I can’t see myself marrying someone someday then I won’t pursue it. But I make this very clear at the beginning. If they don’t feel the same I’m fine with that, I don’t judge anyone for how they do relationships or how they feel about marriage. My husband doesn’t care much about marriage, he loves me to pieces so for him a piece of paper isn’t as real as our actual relationship, so he was perfectly fine with marrying me so I can stay in Germany with him (I’m from the US, we met online.) We've been together four years, and living together for two, and everything is perfect. Why? We communicate EVERYTHING. He knew from the beginning how I felt about marriage, no ultimatums have ever been necessary.
My point is, if you’re into marriage, make that clear. You’re causing your own relationship problems by not being clear about your intentions and then threatening them when you don’t get your way (which you clearly never communicated your way in the first place.) A marriage started with a threat is never going to last.
I was thinking this the entire time. Obviously they weren’t truthful from the beginning
This is so true. My husband and I dated for only four months before we decided to get married, and that was because we went into it expecting to figure out if we could do it. We didn't date to date, but rather dated to see if we were the spouse for each other. We talked about expectations, wants, needs, hopes, our own personal successes and failures, and when we raised that everything aligned perfectly we knew that it was set. Here we are three years later and already outlasted all of my friends' marriages, when they are the ones that dated for 5 or 6 years!!!
You have a great head on your shoulders, I completely agree with you. I wish more girls my age in their mid-twenties would have the same mindset. I’ve been with my partner for 1.5 yrs and going into it we were both honest about what we wanted.
@@MyNameHere101 my bf of almost 4 months is moving in and we got a puppy. We are moving fast but it doesn't feel that way when we communicate everything. It helps when you know what you do/don't want and lay your boundaries from the very beginning.
@@GlitterC8k Exactly! If you can come out of an argument better understanding each other then that's a great sign. We argue and then we ask each other "What is YOUR perspective" and learn so much about each other. At this point we can now completely know each other's side without asking and we can say "I'm mad, and I'm going to allow myself to be mad for a few minutes, but I know you're perspective and I don't think you're wrong." And then after just a couple minutes it's like the argument never happened.
A year or even two really isn’t that long to be so up in arms about “marry me or leave!”
It’s definitely a topic that should have come up seriously but like, chill, just enjoy all the time spent with the other person. Hell, I’m ten years into a relationship(got engaged last year)and I’m still learning new things or hearing new stories from my guys life.
You could be together 50 years and still learn new things about your significant other.
Exactly....2 years, in the larger scheme of things, is not that much time
That’s great for y’all. For me, 2 years is definitely too long!!!!
@@juliekennedy9891 same. Honestly I want to get married young but I also don't want him to be like a sadist and I find out only after we're married. Lmao
@@pussydestroyer69285 Yeah, I won’t be young. I am 40 and that is part of why I don’t feel like waiting that long for marriage.
Also, I am putting a ton of prayer into my partnership and only marrying the person who God leads me to-so I have no worries!😀😀😀
Yeah. That just seems like a really good way to ruin an otherwise wonderful relationship. Although something tells me that none of these couples were at any risk of doing that lol
I understand Alexis. She’s tall, skinny, and blonde and that’s 70% of her identity so of course it’s the biggest attack on her ego for a guy to express that he’s not attracted to her. Imagine going your entire life never getting your way because a few physical attributes make you the type of every man you’ve ever encountered until now. Many women don’t want to be fetishized because of what they look like but she really gets off on it.
not 70% 😂 😭 😭 ☠️
Not being mean but she’s totally distorted her face w filler. 😩
but Alexis is not even attractive and she looks 3 times older than her actual age
more like 95%😒😑
Shes goofy looking
I’m SO pro-marriage! I’m 22 years old, and I would love to eventually get married one day. I want a healthy and long marriage like my parents have. That being said, I rather die alone than have to give a man or woman an ultimatum to get them to marry me. That’s not true love.
Well said. And good luck. It's rough dating nowadays. From what I hear. I'm married. And I don't envy you single peeps. Marriage is a partnership that requires 100 of both if you. Amd remember that the fire of love dims, but it's your duty to each other to find the wood and set it ablaze again.
Marriage is a big decision and People like the ones in the shoe blow my mind. I’ve always wanted to get married. (Am now) my husband and I met 19 and 21 (1.5 year difference) and we dated 4.5 years engaged 2. I think that’s a good time line for people in there 20s. Cause you get to know the person really well and your brain gets fully developed at some point.
Exactly! No one should beg for a proposal/marriage. The other person should want to marry you. I would much rather wait for the person to be ready or move on if they say they don't want to. Why would you want to marry someone you forced to marry you? Doesn't make sense to me
@@miffedcuttlefish6139 Dating is truly awful. I had a guy ask me if I wanted to hold (see?) his sausage (I can't remember). I wasn't talking about sex, I was talking about volunteering at a dog rescue and how we either get underweight dogs or fat dogs that look like sausages. I let him know I wasn't interested and that kind of talk, then he tried again and I was done with him.
Trust me from someone with six years extra experience all it takes is dating the wrong crazy to burn all aspirations of hooking up.
My coworker said he met Nick Lachey when he worked at a radio station. He said he was a total jerk to him within the first two minutes of meeting him. He also said Nick's wife was a saint.
Sounds about right
Giving marriage or ANY relationship status change an expiration date PROVES you are not ready for a serious relationship. I am so sick of parents and adults pushing the two to three year dating time limit for marriage. My wife and I dated for six years. It takes some people longer to make sure it's right. Deal with it!
My parents or anybody in my family never put time frames on dating
I've been married for almost 3 years. Marriage doesnt fix your problems. It gives you new and different problems. It also gives you the commitment of someone who is there for you and you can be there for them, and you can work through your problems.
Alternative title for The Ultimatum: Put your already on-the-rocks relationship at an even greater risk for some garbage TV show that encourages cheating
These relationships are unstable! Let’s hit them with an earthquake!
Or because it's someone else!
RIGHT this show made me feel so gross
I’m like 90% sure Nate only proposed because he WANTED either Madlyn or Shanique, but they got taken. He would have ended up with Alexis (if Hunter didn’t propose) or ended up with April if he didn’t propose. He didn’t like either option, so he took Lauren even though the relationship still isn’t resolved. They’ll probably break up later on, Nate just didn’t want the two girls left over. This entire show is just so toxic man.
Leo is very unique where he puts everything into one video a lot of other TH-camrs would have split the video into a video series with different parts and made a playlist for it.
I can say he’s my favorite youtuber in terms of his personality. Even when I have disagreed with him, it’s never been due to him being immoral.
We love that for us
This is one of the reasons I love him so much!
It's really not that unique. There's thousands of youtubers, the popular ones like to stretch things out. Don't forget this man shills any product to his audience for a little bit of money.
@@hayleycakes3435 damn dude, what did he do to you?!
You are an absolute saint for having put yourself through this nonsense for us.
If someone, anyone, gave me the ultimatum of marriage or breaking up and we’d been dating for less then 5 years - it’s an instant break up. Even if I was considering marrying that person, that ultimatum is reason enough for me to break up with them. Trying to force or coerce someone into marriage is never cool - and to be willing to give that ultimatum you’d have to already be checked out somewhat. Because the ultimatum-giver has already made the choice in their mind that breaking up is better then still dating that person. If that’s how you feel, let’s break up then.
I totally agree
Why are you making your partner wait 5 years. I literally have men from my country tell me never date American men because they make you wait too long. More than two years is too long.
kids vs no kids attempt at relationship always triggers in me a sort of primal rage. there was a guy who was trying to get with me for YEARS (despite my telling him flat out I wasn't interested in him) and one of (his) hang ups was him wanting kids and me not only not wanting kids (I don't like kids sorry) but wanting even less to be pregnant. he tried SO HARD to change my mind about kids.
I don't know why this guy was so damn invested. he kept trying to say he was in love with me, despite getting frustrated with several of my core personality traits. like, dude, when are you going to realize that you're not in love with me, you're in love with YOUR IDEA of me. christ. this dude knew me in friggin middle school and whenever he tried to ask me out and I turned him down he would turn to my best friend standing RIGHT NEXT TO ME and ask her out. so glad he finally lost contact with me.
Had an ex admit he was hoping he could change my mind and he constantly disrespected any reasons I came up with on why I didn't want kids, and he never took my real reason seriously being that I never felt the desire to and I simply don't want them. Like damn.
I hope uve blocked him. That's basically harassment. I'd would have taken a restraining order on him honestly. Like no is no man
@@umiusagiseabunny9023 this was before most social medias. Like, Myspace era, and I never had one of those. (TH-cam didn't even exist when we were in highschool.) He didn't have my phone number, and we've both moved states since then. (Multiple times, in my case.)
As a currently married person, with a lot of baggage, my husband and I made it a point to have every fight we needed to have before we got married. Not only did we get everything out in the open but we were able to decide if our differences were big enough to break us. Now, as a married couple, we almost never fight because we got it all out when we were dating. If one of us had dropped an ultimatum before the other was ready we would have been such a toxic couple, but we aren’t because we didn’t try to rush into anything. This show is so unhealthy
How did yall do that? Like whats some tips, if u dont mind
@@0spacesuicide I mean, the best way to do it is to get everything out in the open. Once you have the conversation that you might want to get married, start being unapologetically open about things. Remember: if it’s a small problem while dating, marriage is only going to make it bigger. So have the tough conversations and don’t be afraid of fighting about it. It’s better, of course, to keep the conversation calm so you can talk things through. That’s why we established ground rules. Ours best one was a code phrase that basically meant “I am getting too angry to talk rationally, we need to pause this conversation until I calm down”. I think we used something random, like “pomegranate”. Whatever rules you decide, you need to stick to.
There’s more I’m sure but that’s what I remember off the top of my head. Hope this helps!
The Shanique and Zay fight, my thoughts- they’re both upset about things they learned about their partners interactions with the other people but their partners aren’t there for them to express their feelings too and have their partners reassure them so they’re kind of looking to each other and neither of them can offer the other reassurance that they need because they’re obviously not the people so they end up in a fight that doesn’t make sense because they’re upset and the premise of this show is totally dysfunctional
Colby was disgusting because he took credit for "April becoming a woman." Madlyn problematic but her point was valid AF.
ew....
This!
Babe is he ok lmaoo what did he even mean
@@shirin9452 probably "took her virginity" or some bs like that 😅 I'm also confused
@@Rebesag she wasn’t a virgin lmfaoooo not by any means, she talked a lot about how much unprotected sex she and Jake had. I think it’s actually just Colby’s inability to grasp the English language, he’s shown it before. I think he was trying to say being around him brought out a deeper and more mature side of April and kind of made her grow and come into her own. Sigh. Reading is free kids 💀
I think pre marriage counseling is a great thing. Especially with these couples. I think a lot would come out. Having marriage as an ultimatum after a year and half dating is crazy to me. Everyone is different but still. I mean I would understand if it was like 5 plus years but damn.
I think that even couples that are doing well should still see a pre marriage counselor. Its never wrong to be prepared and make sure you're actually ready even when you're happy.
Who else feels like Zay has just never been given ANY space to be emotional? Seeing him break down and Rae IGNORE him was hard. He has shit he needs to work on but I kinda feel like he barely gets a chance to do that because he just keeps getting told to man up or that his trauma is an excuse instead of something that literally shaped his childhood and thus his personality as well.
Great observation, that’s what I thought as well.
Can we talk about how one of Madeleine’s friends straight up admitted that she hooked up with Colby during her interview and that never comes back up???!!!
Ugh I’m so glad I suffered this show through sixteenleo instead of actually watching it myself 😂☺️
Confessional moments for viewers to hear inner thoughts usually stay there and Madelyn prob discusses it w her irl/knows.
I took it as them hooking up before he was with Madeleine. Didn't seem like they were talking about cheating.
@@martinaasandersen3775 I did as well and read into their vibes that they've all joked about it before, they seem like that typa friend group! Not swingers just free loving.
I really hate when people go through the LONG process, of their OWN choosing, to get on a show, only to act like they don't know what the show is about!?! Just DON'T sign up then! Plus, you shouldn't need to FORCE your partner into doing the show! 🙄🤦 This show is exactly like "Temptation Island"! 🙄
Yes! This! I immediately thought of Temptation Island when I heard the term "worst reality show". I would pay for Leo to cover Temptation Island, this is a trash festival
There might be a lack of communication from what the show is about while applying because they want to show to be a surprise when it releases. But you'd think by the time they're on the show they'd know. I don't watch a lot of these shows but it's a pet peeve
I know people who produce these shoes. One, when they cast the show, it hasn't been shot. They pitch it in a way that will draw people in to participate. Two, once they shoot the show, only then do they know what the show will be. Three, they edit heavily, so the show you watch may not resemble anything like the original pitch. The original pitches get posted a lot to acting communities and they NEVER sound as crazy as they ultimately are.
Happily married for almost 19 years; we dated for a year when we talked about what's next and after talking about what marriage meant to us we decided to get married. Shortly after he told me that he knew he wanted to marry me after about two months. After thinking about it I figure it was about four months for me. It really wasn't complicated at all.
Same for me and my husband. He promised himself to me after 3 months and I knew I wanted to be his wife after our first trip together at 4 months. We got married after a year and also 5 months of living together. Have genuinely never been more secure in the idea of marriage
Same for us!
i don't care that this comment is a year old, this is cute asf, go you guys 💞
Out of everyone April did the best in the aftermath! She’s so beautiful and happy Pregnant now in a happy relationship I love that for her, she deserves it
If you have to demand that someone proposes to you or marries you…..pretty sure the relationship is doomed!!🫢
Alexis looks like she could be Jeffree Star’s sister!!!👀
OMG YES
I'm so glad you talked about Alexis and her reaction. So entitled. "Omg how can a guy not like me I'm soooo attractive". While i disagree with that statement, so does Colby and that should be okay. She actually went and talked to Madeline about it.
Moreover the couples that got married are the ones we would have bet could not.
Let me tell you how stupid it is to expect marriage and relationships to work just after a year or two. I started dating my wife 12 yrs ago. We got married 6 years ago. Just last year we achieved a level of understanding, communication and vulnerability where for the first time we can truthfully say our relationship has matured enough where we now feel confident saying we have a solid relationship. So, the fact these people are calling for ultimatums means they have so much work to do in that relationship before they are ready to decide this is the person I would be willing to, would love to and know I would spend the rest of my life with.
there are people like these who are more focused on ticking off a list of the milestones you're "supposed" to reach to have a complete life
You never know. My sister's husband proposed on their 2nd date, and the (huge) wedding was a month later. They've been together for 26 years.
@@JanelleDianeH Yeah, my dad proposed after 3 months. Mom said, "Hell no, are you nuts?" He proposed again at the 6 month mark and they're on 20 years.
Some people are on the same page from the very start. If things change, then it could be the people changed or they weren't honest in the beginning. Otherwise, 12 years feels way too long for me to wait to be in a strong relationship. If it doesn't feel strong after a few months, then I am out. That stuff pressures you into changing for the other person just to make it work (which it doesn't).
Really glad you called out that one slimey girl for trying to pressure that one guy (I don't care about these people's names) into sex. As someone who wants to wait until marriage, it's super shitty to pressure anyone into sex.
Damn, I would have given Jake an F because he clearly used April's fertility issues as birth control. So they have unprotected sex which she says multiple times, she's clearly waiting for a "happy accident" so he'll actually step up, but he said he's not even financially ready. So why isn't he insisting on protection regardless? It just gives her false hope which we saw at the engagement. That's a cruel thing to do to a partner with those issues and desperately wants children. Jake is a 🤡
So even tho 2 people are going at it its just the guys fault. There's no issue with her trying to literally trap him?
This is why mgtow came along..
@@Vaga-Bard if the girl is clearly and transparently saying, I am not using birth control because I want a baby, and the guy doesnt use on protection, she has in no way trapped him.
She's clearly set her stall out and explained what she wants. That would be the equivalent of saying hello here is some alcoholic drinks that I have laid out for us to drink all night and we can get totally wasted, keep drinking till three in the morning etc, and then you being angry that you drank them and got drunk and got a hangover.
@@Vaga-Bard what lol
Lol women and their advanced scheming. “He gives her false hope by having unprotected sex with her because she wants a baby, and he’s using it, and he moves bishop to G5 and pawn to B4 and they’re both playing out scandinavian defense…”
Lady… dude just wants to fuck raw. That’s it.
@@Vaga-Bard She's not trapping him. She's not poking holes in the condoms. They're having unprotected sex and he's hoping she won't get pregnant because of her infertility issues, she's not infertile, there's still a risk and he's taking it.
Oh man, a lot to say. Leo, you forgot the part where Jake tells April on Ultimatum day that he's not just gonna go run off with Rae, but then after breaking up he literally goes straight to her and offers to run off anywhere in the world.
Most of the couples were insufferable though. I liked Randal, I actually liked April for the most part (I hated that she went through his phone, but I hated Jake even more and while I'll say he had every right to be angry at her, I don't think it absolved him of responsibility for what WAS there). Zay I almost liked, but he needed to work on the attitude a lot. Everyone else though just, fuck man. And Alexis needs to learn that there is more to attraction than just physical appearance. Colby just said he wasn't attracted to her, that could easily have been because of her views on money.
Also, I'm not gonna lie, I found the editing really obnoxious a lot of the times. Found it more distracting than anything. But it was a huge project and it was still very well done, I still liked it
I loved the little friendship between Colby and April, before it became so apparent how much Colby sucked. April is a whole hoot, I loved the moments where she suddenly started calling everyone out
I felt weird for April. Like i wanted to root for her. Though not with jake. Guess she benefited greatly from the show by breaking up with him though. She seems happy w a new guy now.
I'm ngl my brother and I couldn't stand April when we watched the show, and her crying over everything all the time did not help us like her 💀
I love how the girl is trying to knock Colby by saying the sex wasn’t “rememberable”, as if she had no part in the sex not being good lol. Sex takes two people, and typically good sex is because both people push each other to their limits. If the sex wasn’t good, maybe it’s because you laid there on your back doing the “flaccid scarecrow” like you said lol!
She’s insulting herself equally 😂 it’s giving pillow princess starfish 💀
This is so morally corrupt. Disgusting that "happily" married celebrities would create a show to try and ruin other people's relationships. And now that I think about it, if you have to go on this show....was it really a good union in the first place?!?!? But over all, very disturbing show. Thanks for the delightful commentary as always 😜 I'm totally binging your channel on my work hiatus rn 🤗
They didn’t create the show lol They were hired on as hosts
I would love to see a reunion, Leo. Your opinions and comments are so highly agreeable for me. Your take on these perspectives really just makes my day, since you appear to be such a kind person.
After that line from Colby about how he wants to be known as "her man," my bf and I now refer to him as "Herman" and that's the only thing that's getting me through the season
Shows like this bother me on so many levels. For one it feels super exploitative, given these are insecure people and then you put them into a situation where you prey upon that insecurity. Then you throw in the idea of "hooking up" with someone else and the pressure of an ultimatum. That is just adding fuel to the drama fire.
A better way to do this is to have licensed marriage counselors there to talk to the couples and help them try to work through their issues and if they can not, part on decent terms and learn healthy dating habits. But alas, that does not make Netflix cringe.
Disclaimer: This is coming from a currently single 30-year-old who hates these shows since they set unrealistic expectations of relationships.
Don’t watch them then
I mean yeah, but it’s trash tv, what do we expect?
There is no drama and entertainment in that… no one will watch it
I've personally met April lmao She used to show up to photography events in Los Angeles. To see her on something like this now is wild.
Lol wtf. Nice haha 😆🙌
She seems so nice🥺 I love her sm
This show would make me super insecure about my relationship. Can you imagine the mindset teens would develop after watching this?!?!
i agree, treating marriage like something that Must happen in a relationship gets really stressful. kids gotta learn to live in the moment
That's the object, boo.
@@ixyc what's the point of dating, then? If you're not dating to find a potential life partner then your just hurting your chances of actually bonding with someone.
@@miffedcuttlefish6139 You can date someone for life without marriage though. Where I live its pretty normal not to get married but stay together for their lives.
@@jjdelft3216 okay. What's the rate that those domestic partnerships remain? Also what are the feelings from the children that are the products of those partnerships? I'm not asking to be a dick.🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's a genuine question. (InB4 someone wants to start getting booty bothered?
Leo, when you imitated Madlyn by saying "What made you attracted to me?" while retreating into your couch all slouched over and in a raspy voice, that made me bust out laughing so hard! Hilarious when girls do stuff like that. Thanks my man!
I actually broke up with someone last year cos I realized I didn't wanna marry him. That being said, there's so many couples (usually same-sex ones) that stay together for 30 years before getting married. If you're with someone that's truly meant for you, it's gonna be a committed relationship no matter what.
I don't know what it is with these types of people that think marriage, children or even a threesome is gonna solve whatever relationship issues they might have.
For me it's just societal and peer pressure. I'm turning 21 in a couple of months and don't even have a commited romantic relationship, but when I see half my classmates and other peers already married with children (!), presumably living their best lives as it seems on the social media, I kinda can't help wanting marriage in the future. I swear, it's the weirdest feeling. Especially bcos I'm still SO YOUNG, not to mention a bisexual and genderqueer so I've broken many societal and peer expectations already, so would it really be so weird if I just never got married?? Of course not! But the pressure is still there, even if no one literally tells me "get married! Have kids and do it all before 30!!", Comments like "so, what's going on in ur *personal* life" or "do you have a bf? No? Ur grown up already, go get a MAN (very biphobic btw)" r triggering enough lol So yeah, some things we just can't help but I'm working on my mindset and hope everyone else who feels like they have to get married bcos almost everyone around them has managed to find "the one" realizes what I too need to realize- Everyone has a different path and the less we care about others' opinions, the better. Others will always be others.
My auntie and uncle are like that. They got married before I was born but they love each other so much
I did that with my first bf. He was a really great guy and I’m still friends with him, but he wasn’t quite what I needed. So I broke it off before his sister got engaged and everyone started asking us more than they already were. I had just turned 22 and wasn’t ready.
I made sure my current bf knows my timeline of when I want to be settled and ready for kids, even though it’s years away. We were already talking about kids and such, so I brought up because having children is important to me. If he had no intentions of having kids, or if me having babies in my early 30s would be an issue, I would’ve wanted to know before I got super attached. Esp since we’re long distance. Even still, I haven’t rushed him into calling me his gf.
@@lumilenm__m5304 I hear you! I've almost completely written off dating women because of how homo/biphobic my parents and relatives are. I'm 25 right now and I'm in a constant battle between feeling like I'm running out of time to get married and reminding myself that I don't need to rush. Everyone has their own pace but it's definitely hard to ignore external pressure.
@@tealablu3759 I'm in a long distance relationship with a guy a few years younger than me. We've discussed the possibility of marriage and children but in a much more vague sense than I'm used to. Like, I had my first boyfriend at 17 and he was already thinking about kids and marriage. I definitely wasn't ready to have that conversation then.
Currently, I'm able to discuss my views on those things much better but my boyfriend is not. He's open-minded but he's still not in a place where he's seriously considering it. So we're just taking it slow and I've been doing my best to not rush him into deciding anything.
Madelyn wanted this "experience", she took Colby for granted and thought he would stay or didn't argue back to anything. He wanted her in the beginning and wasn't the one who took this decision ti be on the show and now when they both had their "experience", she regrets it. She wanted it all. She was so over Randell, like "over him"😉 for real. This was the absolute worst show, but to be fair, there's MANY of them on some format like this. Leo is such a champ for actually watch ALL of the episodes and still have his brain intact🏆
Sorry, but Colby deserves a worse grade. He’s the living image of a Nice guy
Colby the type of dude that starts hitting burning man in his mid thirties
He does gas light her as well. I gotta say there is a reason she drinks so much.
@@SEVENTEENPOINT1 the bitch Is trash as well they’re made for each other
He told you he wasn’t attracted to you too, hu? Y’all get so pressed after rejection, it’s the best form of entertainment. “He recognizes I’m ugly, inside and out, I have to tear down a good guy so I like him less.” Classic.
Huh? How is it wrong to be nice? Sorry English is not my first language so I don't know if it's some kind of a term for something. But for me personally, being a nice person is a good thing.
Your advice is really good. I was single until I was 24, which was really hard. I desperately wanted a relationship, but the truth is I hadn't found one because I wasn't ready. When I started working on myself and putting the time into things that made me happy, it got much easier, and starting a relationship became a lot more natural.
I’m 25 and in the same position, I feel like I’m not ready. I hope I will be, I’m getting too old 😭
Madlyn gives me the impression of being with a man just to have someone to come home to. She's not ready to settle down, but she doesn't want him to find someone else.
I honestly like long videos. Listening to them while doing other stuff is kinda comforting. I watched till the end of the video. Please keep up the good content, you're amazing. Hope you're doing well, and lot's of nice thoughts from Romania! 😊🤗
Colby is a type of cheese, so that’s why he called him “the big cheese” 🤣🧀
This show was honestly so deeply cringe only in clip form that I amazed you made it out alive from watching a whole season. All the contestants get an F simply for going on this horrid crapfest. Madlin is still somehow the worst.
madlyn was so messy and chaotic throughout the whole show, i wasn't surprised when she said yes to colby's proposal
Alexis by far the worst person
She clearly had a drinking issue, so i think instead of getting married she should get some counseling
I felt so bad for April because Jake looked so done with her 🥴
Damn... My wife and I got married six weeks ago without telling anyone and honestly this video just made me reflect on how lucky we got finding each other ❤️
Congratulations!!!
I really like that as a concept. It takes away the materialism of modern day weddings. Kinda like going back to the basics of it, choosing to be together.
Hope all is still going well for you guys and you had a great first year of marriage, seeing as this comment is 11 months old!
congrats :)
Marriage is something that’s supposed to strengthen the bond you already have with someone, not a band-aid you try and slap on an already broken relationship.
My husband and I got married 6 months ago, but we had been together 7 years before that, entirely long distance too with nothing but Skype calls and seeing each other once a year for a week. He’s moved to me now and despite not having lived together for more than a few days at a time beforehand we’re only closer and love each other more. That’s because we got married to solidify the bond we already made. Not to fix something that wasn’t working.
Love ya SixteenLeo. You crack me up, thank you for sitting through such trash for our entertainment 👏👌💖
My parents only knew each other for 6 months when they got married. They were together for 20 years......then they divorced. I'm shocked they made it that long. lol
"Apperently not being attracted to other people makes you an asshole."
Ace/Aros watching this:
I love being an asshole
This show is an absolute fever dream! There is a small part of me that believes the conspiracy that they planted or at least picked some of the alternate couples. 😂
I'm convinced alexis came on fully intending to be the villain of the show. she's almost like a caricature
To be honest I cry every time I have any strong emotion, regardless of what the emotion is.
Same and it sucks bcuz people think that just cuz I'm crying with tears running down my face, it means any point I'm trying to make or anything I say is automatically just me being a pussy or hysterical or less of a man. Like no, I just am more in touch with my emotions and it means this is a big deal to me. People are just...yeesh
@@YeetTheMeat Right? Being able to express our emotions is actually a strength. I was just watching a video where a psychologist talked about how important it is to be able to express our emotions and to cry. I hate that some people view it as weakness or take people who cry less seriously.
@@strawberryycheescake exactly. People have this idea that to be strong you have to be this emotionless robot who lacks empathy and humanity but honestly the strongest people out here are the ones who have those emotions, who connects to their humanity, who can show vulnerability to others because it takes a lot to be emotionally vulnerable. It shows trust, confidence and love to that other person cuz ur saying "hey I really care about this deeply and i care about you" and I think that's beautiful. I hope humanity as a whole can move past this ignorant mindset that somehow having emotions is weak. Emotional maturity is a thing many people lack unfortunately.
Same.
I'm demisexual and romantic, so these shows always amuse me to no end, because i just don't understand the physical attraction at first sight, but i agree to an extent about sexual relationships with your partner. As long as you're both open and on the same page as each other, it doesn't matter if you have none or you have a lot, but you have to make sure you're both COMMUNICATING. Something all of these people lack to an epic proportion.
15:35 so true. In a relationship one person can't be the main priority. It's both. And I'm speaking from experience - my last relationship ended because of this. Be careful about giving yourself away for someone.
About Madeline
Honestly I think that when a girls friend is in a relationship for a while and they come to them with relationship problems the friends try supporting them by taking their side and after a while it turns into an Echo chamber to a point where the guy is always gonna be looked at as the bad guy cause well friends support each other. A good friend tells you when you’re wrong or looking at something wrong. But please correct me if I have a misconception, I’d love a different perspective on this if there is one
Often times this “echo chamber” effect comes from being burned after attempting to be honest with a friend about their relationship. I’ve attempted to gently intervene in my closest friends’ toxic relationships, but almost always had to watch my friend go back to a horrible partner. Eventually you just attempt to be there for your friend, even if it means being part of an “echo chamber” it’s better than losing them completely.
@@Kellyeeeee i don't think that's quite the same thing
This is so true, when I've had arguments with my SO my mother and friend always said "you're 100% in the right, dump him" even after me telling them all that I'd done wrong and them telling me I'm justified even when he does the same, he isn't, then I have another friend who genuinely wants to give good advice and actually listens to what I say and gives useful non-biased advice, that friend is more mature than my mother. My bf has said the same, he has had friends telling him to dump me without actually knowing the story. It was hard to get through to him "you realise both of our friends are telling us were right? It's obviously a friendship bias" because at the time he was taking his mates(who barely knew anything) opinions like gospel, started calling me a gaslighter when he didn't know what it meant(because his big brain friend), so I tell him what it means and show everytime he gaslighted me and that was the point he realized his friends opinions probably aren't that accurate, and also that it can be possible to have toxic traits without the intention of being bad
The awkwardness of telling your friend that her ex boyfriend was a scumbag and then having that same friend get back together with him... 😶
You either end up having to backtrack or end up having to continue talking shit about your friend's boyfriend and having her resent you.
I've gone to friends in the past when I've had relationship issues and in the end these friends saw my partners as the devil walking among us.
Because I only told them the bad stuff.
One has to be careful with what they're sharing.
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THIS!!!
Same
This show is very interesting to watch as a an asexual and a possible aromatic because how could you like a person in four days. Like what the hell.
Nobody cares that you're a virgin
Ur not asexual ur just too insecure to get into a relationship
even as an allosexual i can't imagine. it takes me a while to form an opinion about someone
That's the thing whoever made the show knew ,u can't fall in love that fast but you can develop Lust for people within 1 day and there relationships are already rocky ....They know exactly what there doing
I fell in love in one day. We're still in love and it has been years. It happens
Alexis was also on the bachelor and was just as horrendous😭😭 I knew I recognized her.
They really should've done the deciding in private on paper. I feel like those who chose after someone picked them are influenced to just go with it.