I am GRATEFUL to you for this tutorial - I just bought a beautiful used F-150 - and I never had a four wheel drive before. It is snowing outside right now, and I need to go out this evening, and now I feel confident that if I need to use 4H tonight I will be able to do it. Thank you again, you explained it beautifully.
Thank you for the information. I wish I had seen this video a week ago. I thought my Ford F250 had a problem. I had the 4H engaged on a good road, and my truck was driving badly. The Ford Mechanic told me the same things yesterday. That's a nice-looking truck you got.
I live in colorado. I just got a 2017 f350. It replaced a chevy silverado. There's a lot of differences. This video was a super huge help for me to understand the Ford 4x4 system. I subscribed. I hope you get your 1000 soon. $$$
I just had to get out in the mud to get anything on the 4wd to work. First Ford I've ever owned and my dad was giving all kinds of crap. I was like no way this 2023 has manual locking hubs. Imagine my surprise when I hand to pull off the center cap of my Fuel wheels to see a manual locking hub🤦🏻♂️ just glad I figured it out before he had to pull me out
You do not have to get out to lock the hubs, just turn the switch on the dash. Ford gives you the ability to manually lock the hubs if the auto lock system fails. That's why the hub lock says auto or lock right on it.
@@spacealien3567That is literally NOT what he says if you watch more than the first 45 seconds of the video. He states that you have to manually lock the hubs to make the front axle drive both front wheels which is incorrect, manual lock is used when auto lock fails for some reason or If you want the hubs to remain locked. I would suggest that YOU watch the whole video.
My 2024 F-250 came with only one selectable locking/unlocking hub, which is on the driver side. The hub on the passenger side hub is permanently locked all the time. It's at the dealership now getting the permanently locked hub replaced with regular selectable locking/unlocking hub along with the two required vacuum lines.
Been researching to install the hub/vacuum line myself on my 24 purchased last week. I guess there are 2 service bulletins about it, 1-Ford will swap it if it’s making a grinding noise. 2- No free swap if it’s just the customer wanting to swap. You paying out of pocket? About to order the hub and 2 vacuum lines to do in my driveway.
@@kenthedragon, they're covering it under warranty. I told them I have a slight grinding noise and a vibration coming from the front passenger side wheel/tire area. And that if I locked the driver's side hub and/or put it in 4wd it went away.
@@kenthedragonhello, I just did the swap myself. For February and later 2024 heavy duty truck, the hardest part (which is actually not that hard) is removing the old vacuum hose that goes to the top and to the driver side hub, by the duel ended vacuum hose (duel ended, one side going to the right hub dans the other side going to the left hub). You don't even need to remove the wheels. Then add the missing connecting vacuum hose to the end of the passenger side hub, to the end of the duel ended vacuum hose. You reuse the driver side connecting vacuum hose to connect to the driver side duel ended vacuum hose. On the dummy hub side, the only thing that needs to be removed is the wheel center cap to replace the dummy hub by the lockable le hub. The dummy hub is held by 3 bolts that need to be unscrewed and then you just pull on the sides of the dummy hub to remove it. The install of the lockable hub is just the reverse operation. Have a nice day
If it's just rain, I run in 2h....if its freezing rain you can run in 4h.....if you have a setting for auto, you can leave it in that year round and the truck will use 4h as wheel slippage is detected and you won't really need to mess with it at all.
Thanks for the video but you confused me because the manual hub locks are only there as a backup to the vacuum hub lock. Neither the auto or manual hub lock lock the front differential. Also, when you lock the rear differential it does not force the same torque to each rear wheel as you said, it forces the same speed. Torque is a function of the amount of traction each tire generates.
You shouldn't hear any banging in the differential at all. Not sure how new the truck is, but I'd have that looked at. You could always drop the rear end oil and see if you have shavings or the oil has had water in it. I see people that boat have issues, not saying that's the case but water can get in and cause major issues.
My 2022 f250 almost always needs 4x4 in any amount of snow. The worst. My f150 with LSD almost never needed 4x4 in snow, so I was surprised with the difference
LMAO...Tires....tires determine if you need to be in 4wd. Your F150 and F250 will drive nearly identical in snow in 2WD. If you have shit tires, then they will perform poorly in snow and you'll have to get into 4wd sooner than later. It has absolutely nothing to do with the truck. There are hours worth of reading material online to support what I just said. So don't kid yourself about a shitty truck when in fact, you have shitty tires
Question - When my 4x4 is engaged I loose a significant amount of turning radius, is this common on the F250? The steering starts to bind and cannot make a turn.
Yes this will happen on all 4x4 trucks, when 4 wheel is engaged. We call it crabbing. If there is a ton of slip crabbing will be less, but if the wheel or wheels can get grip the steering will be short and tight. Ford's, when the hubs are not locked, you have a limited slip axle in the front which allows the wheels to crab less also. Once they are locked, I call it panzer mode and it will grip but steering will be harder the more it grips.
Yes that’s normal, I had a F150 it was always on 4Auto so it was easier to turn, but now I have a F350 and here in Canada I use 4H and man is it brutal to make turns or corners you are scrapping and bumping the truck to make that turn 😅
The most important thing that 4x4 owners tend to forget: Even a Prius has 4 wheel brakes. As a >1 million mile professional driver I can't even begin to try to remember the number of times I've safely driven past 4x4s that ended up in a ditch because some people think 4x4 = invincible. Appropriate tires for the conditions will be more valuable to 99% of drivers than 4x4 or AWD. Nobody has died just by getting stuck, many have died from overconfidence in their vehicle and their own driving skill.
You can definitely drive upwards of 40MPH in 4L. That's coming straight from ford. However, they suggest not going over 25. 15 to 25 will be a common speed on Off Road trails anyway...HOWEVER, if on trail in 4 low and you need to climb a hill that is all loose sand or gravel, then your tires will be spinning as you make the climb...your wheel speed will be significantly greater than your travel speed. Climbing that sandy hill at about 10 mph can easily have your wheels spinning at 40mph+. 4low is designed to give you that maximum torque for those exact situations. To say you can't travel more than 10mph if bad information. Another prime example...Stuck in the MUD? 4low with tires spinning, ramping up that throttle to get out. Your tires are absolutely spinning 40MPH+. Ford does have failsafe's built in for the locking differential and will automatically disengage if wheel speed travels above a certain number.
I am GRATEFUL to you for this tutorial - I just bought a beautiful used F-150 - and I never had a four wheel drive before. It is snowing outside right now, and I need to go out this evening, and now I feel confident that if I need to use 4H tonight I will be able to do it. Thank you again, you explained it beautifully.
Thank you for the information. I wish I had seen this video a week ago. I thought my Ford F250 had a problem. I had the 4H engaged on a good road, and my truck was driving badly. The Ford Mechanic told me the same things yesterday. That's a nice-looking truck you got.
I live in colorado. I just got a 2017 f350. It replaced a chevy silverado. There's a lot of differences. This video was a super huge help for me to understand the Ford 4x4 system. I subscribed. I hope you get your 1000 soon. $$$
I'm glad it helped, and congrats on the new rig. I'm very grateful to have you here.
If you press and hold the traction control button for a few seconds it will turn the advancetrac off too.
I just watched your video and subscribed and thank you it helped me on my 2013 F250
@jerryroe1438 thanks for being here and subscribing!
Thanks for the info. Owned my 19 for 3 years and this is much needed. My auto doesnt work . Pain in the ass
I just had to get out in the mud to get anything on the 4wd to work. First Ford I've ever owned and my dad was giving all kinds of crap. I was like no way this 2023 has manual locking hubs. Imagine my surprise when I hand to pull off the center cap of my Fuel wheels to see a manual locking hub🤦🏻♂️ just glad I figured it out before he had to pull me out
You do not have to get out to lock the hubs, just turn the switch on the dash. Ford gives you the ability to manually lock the hubs if the auto lock system fails. That's why the hub lock says auto or lock right on it.
Literally what he says in the first 45 seconds 😂😂😂
Watch the video next time 😂
@@spacealien3567That is literally NOT what he says if you watch more than the first 45 seconds of the video. He states that you have to manually lock the hubs to make the front axle drive both front wheels which is incorrect, manual lock is used when auto lock fails for some reason or If you want the hubs to remain locked. I would suggest that YOU watch the whole video.
Very useful information. Thanks.
My 2024 F-250 came with only one selectable locking/unlocking hub, which is on the driver side. The hub on the passenger side hub is permanently locked all the time.
It's at the dealership now getting the permanently locked hub replaced with regular selectable locking/unlocking hub along with the two required vacuum lines.
Been researching to install the hub/vacuum line myself on my 24 purchased last week. I guess there are 2 service bulletins about it, 1-Ford will swap it if it’s making a grinding noise. 2- No free swap if it’s just the customer wanting to swap. You paying out of pocket? About to order the hub and 2 vacuum lines to do in my driveway.
@@kenthedragon, they're covering it under warranty.
I told them I have a slight grinding noise and a vibration coming from the front passenger side wheel/tire area. And that if I locked the driver's side hub and/or put it in 4wd it went away.
@@kenthedragonhello, I just did the swap myself. For February and later 2024 heavy duty truck, the hardest part (which is actually not that hard) is removing the old vacuum hose that goes to the top and to the driver side hub, by the duel ended vacuum hose (duel ended, one side going to the right hub dans the other side going to the left hub). You don't even need to remove the wheels. Then add the missing connecting vacuum hose to the end of the passenger side hub, to the end of the duel ended vacuum hose. You reuse the driver side connecting vacuum hose to connect to the driver side duel ended vacuum hose. On the dummy hub side, the only thing that needs to be removed is the wheel center cap to replace the dummy hub by the lockable le hub. The dummy hub is held by 3 bolts that need to be unscrewed and then you just pull on the sides of the dummy hub to remove it. The install of the lockable hub is just the reverse operation. Have a nice day
Excellent details and instructions. Thank you brother.
Thanks for explaining the stick shift!
How do you drive under rainy weather.. 4h? Or just the setting for me has for slippery weather
If it's just rain, I run in 2h....if its freezing rain you can run in 4h.....if you have a setting for auto, you can leave it in that year round and the truck will use 4h as wheel slippage is detected and you won't really need to mess with it at all.
Mine doesn’t have the pull option. Hmmm
Thanks for the video but you confused me because the manual hub locks are only there as a backup to the vacuum hub lock. Neither the auto or manual hub lock lock the front differential. Also, when you lock the rear differential it does not force the same torque to each rear wheel as you said, it forces the same speed. Torque is a function of the amount of traction each tire generates.
Love the 7.3 videos!
Thanks, I'll keep posting new content!
came for the basic knowledge i already knew... stayed for the bluetooth named "sex chocolate"
😆😆😆😆...long story
@@automotiveinquiries9673 im curious now
You had my attention, now you have my curiosity
Question.. i lock my rears by pulling the knob out. When i turn it makes a terrible banging sound. Is this normal?
You shouldn't hear any banging in the differential at all. Not sure how new the truck is, but I'd have that looked at. You could always drop the rear end oil and see if you have shavings or the oil has had water in it. I see people that boat have issues, not saying that's the case but water can get in and cause major issues.
You should not have your rear end locked while turning due to the inner wheel on the turn having to travel at a slower speed than the outer wheel
I'm glad we don't have that kind of weather in South Carolina.
Yup, you nailed it all
My 2022 f250 almost always needs 4x4 in any amount of snow. The worst. My f150 with LSD almost never needed 4x4 in snow, so I was surprised with the difference
LMAO...Tires....tires determine if you need to be in 4wd. Your F150 and F250 will drive nearly identical in snow in 2WD. If you have shit tires, then they will perform poorly in snow and you'll have to get into 4wd sooner than later. It has absolutely nothing to do with the truck. There are hours worth of reading material online to support what I just said. So don't kid yourself about a shitty truck when in fact, you have shitty tires
Question - When my 4x4 is engaged I loose a significant amount of turning radius, is this common on the F250? The steering starts to bind and cannot make a turn.
Yes this will happen on all 4x4 trucks, when 4 wheel is engaged. We call it crabbing. If there is a ton of slip crabbing will be less, but if the wheel or wheels can get grip the steering will be short and tight. Ford's, when the hubs are not locked, you have a limited slip axle in the front which allows the wheels to crab less also. Once they are locked, I call it panzer mode and it will grip but steering will be harder the more it grips.
My son-in-law drives a F150 and says he does not have the same issue. Thank you for the info.
My F-250 7.3 Tremor does the same thing. The truck does great in getting the power to the ground.
Yes that’s normal, I had a F150 it was always on 4Auto so it was easier to turn, but now I have a F350 and here in Canada I use 4H and man is it brutal to make turns or corners you are scrapping and bumping the truck to make that turn 😅
The most important thing that 4x4 owners tend to forget:
Even a Prius has 4 wheel brakes.
As a >1 million mile professional driver I can't even begin to try to remember the number of times I've safely driven past 4x4s that ended up in a ditch because some people think 4x4 = invincible. Appropriate tires for the conditions will be more valuable to 99% of drivers than 4x4 or AWD.
Nobody has died just by getting stuck, many have died from overconfidence in their vehicle and their own driving skill.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge ;)
Thanks for stopping by and checking this out.
Can you engage the rear lock while moving?
You can engage it under 50 mph with or without using 4x4.
The electronic locker only works at 20 mph or less. If you leave it on it will automatically engage and disengage accordingly.
You can definitely drive upwards of 40MPH in 4L. That's coming straight from ford. However, they suggest not going over 25. 15 to 25 will be a common speed on Off Road trails anyway...HOWEVER, if on trail in 4 low and you need to climb a hill that is all loose sand or gravel, then your tires will be spinning as you make the climb...your wheel speed will be significantly greater than your travel speed. Climbing that sandy hill at about 10 mph can easily have your wheels spinning at 40mph+. 4low is designed to give you that maximum torque for those exact situations. To say you can't travel more than 10mph if bad information. Another prime example...Stuck in the MUD? 4low with tires spinning, ramping up that throttle to get out. Your tires are absolutely spinning 40MPH+. Ford does have failsafe's built in for the locking differential and will automatically disengage if wheel speed travels above a certain number.
And then there are the various drive modes on the end of the shifter. They have a lot going on with the fords
Dude, lay off the Monster , I'm worn out just listening to you. Thanks for the video.
Rambling ass