WILL IT START? 1973 White Freightliner Cabover.....
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That old Shaker had a 24v starter. You'll need four 6's linked together to turn it over.
Ok boomer
chaos rider chaos - that’s uncalled for. He is correct.
Yes my BF dad says you are rite would have had 4 big ole 6 volt batteries, he has a 1979 GM-HD cabover with a 8V92TA ( TA= Turbo Assist) and that is what it uses and still uses on the farm to haul grain.
2 12v would work as well and be easier to hook up in a junkyard but yeah that thing is definitely a 24v system.
@@chaosriderchaos4035 cam down, ok Boomer?
Stater motor is 24 volt.once started the change Over solenoid cuts voltage to 12 volts to run everything else.should have four smaller batts in the Batt tray.hooking up all the battery leads on them is a nightmare and the solenoids can get water in them and not work very well.
The Detroits are fantastic engines. They will last forever, I drove one with 1.7 Million miles. It was a 8v71, but the 8v92 is only an improvement of the 8v71.
The 92 series were OK but the bearings in them wouldn’t take much lugging.
I love to see an old truck like I used to drive resurrected! I have been retired a long time from trucking....I miss it boys! Trucker Mike drove 76-2012
Я ни хрена не понимаю на английском,но смотрю только из-за того,что мужик любит своё занятие и не опускает руки.Терпения и удачи тебе дружище,весёлых праздников и всего наилучшего в новом году.
the motor in that truck is not lock up you dont have four batter's in it hook up in series that what it going to take to get it turning over
He almost blew ice man up
Tô entendendo nada
Rule number one, always try to rotate the engine by hand before attempting to start. Also, Pre lube cylinders
Why should they rotate an engine by hand 1st? What benefit is in doing that
@@stocks4bt stuck piston rings putting oil in cylinder may save em. Plus you know if its frozen or bad starter quicker
@@stocks4bt Always rotate an engine manually that hasn't been started for awhile. Rain entering the stack(s) or even a minor head gasket or wet-cylinder cavitation pinhole leak could fill a cylinder or more and cause a hydro-static lock. If this is the case, then repeated attempts at starting can bend connecting rods and break pistons.
I've seen this done on many rebuild's on TH-cam
You didn't do anything to try to get it started bet that's a good engine
This reminded me of a time when my unit was prepping our 915 A-2s, (Freightliners) to ship down to Kuwait City. These trucks had a jumper cable that had both electrodes built into it that the military called a "safety" cable. I was a specialist at the time and the young fellow working with me had just been made a sergeant. He was having trouble plugging in the cable, so I tried to give him a hand. I've been around trucks all my life, and I joined the Army at 32 years old right before the cut off for my age. The age gap between me and the new sergeant was probably about 18 years, or almost as many years as he was old. I asked him to let me see the end of the cable, and sure enough, one of the outer tangs had been bent. I sat the cable down and went to unplug the other end of the cable, but the new sergeant new all there was to know about these so called "safety cables", and he decided to stick a screwdriver into the end to straighten it out before I had a chance to get it unplugged saying, "That's why they' called "safety cables"! Now it is important to remember that both the positive and the negative electrodes are in the end of these "safety cables". So... well... one smoke-puffing frizzy hair-do later and I was finally able to get my know-it-all sergeant to understand that those "safety cables" are only as safe as you let them be! 🤣🤣🤣
I It think the Pete would be a great build
You got yourself a gem with that cab over having an 8v92. Check and make sure the fuel injectors aren’t stuck and move freely!
Good thing they didn't have a second battery which is what it needs. The injectors need to be pulled and freed up and the engine bared over before starting. A competent Detroit mechanic could get it fired up.
There u go. He better makecsure the rack isnt stuck and shut off works
I like how you rescue these
abandoned Cabover truck's,
and try too bring them back
too life! If the engine starts
it has a fighting chance!
This is awesome. We ran a 1966 white Freightliner with a small cam 335 and a 2 stick 16 speed for many years on the farm. I love the 8v92 detroit
You should get that 359 Peterbilt also
That's the one I would fix up
That is a nice peterbilt
Exactly 😎👍🏼
Come here to say this.
I don't think that's a 359 looks more like a 353
4 12volts hooked in series it with start bud
Jeremy Gregory and run away....
you mean 4 6 volts.... otherwise you have 48 volts... it sure would spin fast, before it runs away on a stuck injector.. lol
Then the 24 is parallel
@@jeremygregory298 - No... The 24volt would be 2, 12v batteries in _series_ or, 4 - 6v in _series_ (as @MrBusier5 said). - 2, 12v in parallel, would double the storage/charge capacity but still only be 12v - Then see the comments about the relays for 24v start then, it switches to 12v operation.
Examples of two 12v batteries connected together:
Series is: + to -, + to - ; your outside unattached positive and negative form your total voltage out (12v + 12v @800Amp hours/CA/CCA*) = 24v @800Amp hours/CA/CCA* _Multiply the voltage by number of batteries_ and, keep the storage/charge capacity as one battery.
Parallel is: + to +, and; - to - You'd still only have 12v yet @1,600Amp hours/CA/CCA* _Multiply the storage/charge capacity by number of batteries_ yet, keep the voltage as one battery.
I hope that I haven't made this, as _clear as mud._ Cheers-
1st truck I remember is pop's White Road Boss. No suspension, roof air though. He'd catch you asleep and jerk the wheel and dump all that cold ass water right in your lap. Decatur to Atlanta, good times.
One thing I learned from my pap with old Detroit motors when they do that hit the starter with a hammer if it is still stuck u got to pull the truck to unlock it that is a common problem with them
Bruce go look at the peterbilt that was sitting next to it or their was an extended hood Amodel kenworth sitting there that I saw… SUPER RARE TRUCK
Yeah my eye was on the Peterbilt the whole time
I thought the kenworth would be a good build, it would be easy to get parts but a bitch to drive around tight areas and tight parking.
Paulman50 not even, I have the same model kenworth and I get mine anywhere you could put a cabover
@@garretlucero9489 yea I see where your coming from, but these guys arn't truck drivers.
I would like to see that to but it wouldn’t be good content cab overs are in and regular tractors are just kinda boring so that’s probably why he’s not doing it
If you ain’t buying it, where’s it at? I want it.
This thing is just as old as I am!!! Fair play to you lads, saving automotive history!!! Well done!!
Ice man looks like a hard worker. It’s difficult to find friends like that. Thanks for posting the fails as well as the good stuff.
Even if it would’ve started it would’ve run wide open you need to pull the valve covers because you more than likely have stuck injectors and it sounds like a big job but it’s no Detroit’s are easy
You can bank on it don't start it up till you get the Vale covers off and check.
Sounds like the truck was in gear... need 4 batteries to turn it over. I know you like cabovers BUT that 359 Pete in the background should of caught your eye... merry Christmas... love your channel. Watch every time you post.
Edward Sobera I seen the Pete in the back and I was like damn
100% you have true , was in gear 🤫, i think the same .
The 359 sure did catch me eye
I’m a little late but love that you’re giving some new life to a classic
End of 2019 award must go to that " little Cab Over Jack"👍 sitting 20 years and still gets the job done.
I liked that blue Pete that was right beside the ford that would be a cool old truck to fix up
15:30 sounds like music to my ears
Same
***** Love those Detroits. Used them in the Army and at our quarry. This will be great!
Can’t wait to see the final product!! I’ll be following to see this beast come to life.
Looking at the shifter. Looked to be in gear still
I thought the same, isn't in neutral
If it was in gear wouldn't the whole truck move, even just a little bit? Every car/truck I've ever seen trying to be started in gear will make it lurch.
@@stevecriscione1567 didnt have enough power to starter
@@stevecriscione1567 not a huge truck lick this especially if its been sitting
Should’ve got the peterbuilt in the background
Dude, those are everywhere, nothing to see
I was looking at that one also. I wounder if the engine is good
Peterbilts are over rated anyway. You pay way too much for the name. They are built by Paccar, just like Kenworths, and I would take a Kenworth over a Pete any day. It's just a different shaped hunk of fiberglass, and they put the same engines and drive trains in both.
I think the W900 Kenworth is a much better looking truck, and it has a lot more room than a 379 Peterbilt. I can sit in the driver's seat in a 379 and reach over and open the passenger door, but not in the W900. That tells me that the cab of the Pete is too small.
Again, any part you have to buy for a Peterbilt will cost you 50% more, just for the name on it. The damned emblem on the steering wheel is $100.00, just because it says Peterbilt..
@@davide.burden2043 the w900 is a sexy conventional
Since when was a Detroit not a desirable diesel in 1973? With these two guys, you have the blind leading the lost.
18:00 I love how far the cab opens on that! I have a 1988 Freightliner cabover and it only opens up half as far , making it really difficult to work on the front of the engine..
I had to piss earlier, but my zipper was stuck. So I just gave up on it.
I needed that this morning. Thank you. Can't stop laughing!
@@ctymty18 😂
😂😂
now thats fuckin funny right there!!
Knowing me I probably would have given up on it, and went to the hospital and ask if they could insert a tube in my pants because I can't get my zipper open.
The music is too loud while in rural king
Don’t forget that slow stable growth is better then rapid growth that fails, keep putting out great content, and your channel will keep growing, spread yourself too thin and not enough will get done and you will burn yourself out. The arm chair warriors will just have to learn patience. Keep on trucking
Bruce adoro o que vc faz com esses veículos parados a tanto tempo.
Sinto um gratificação imensa ao assisti-lo.
Sempre um Show!
Abraço
Im screaming/at the screen PULL THE FRICKIN LATCH TO THE SIDE NOT THE BACK 😂
@Pedalling Sucks - Exactly, it looked like he kept pulling it towards the rear instead of up and out.
me to
There's 2 of them. Also 1 on each side my uncle's 73 had short fat tanks and a battery box on both sides but I guess everything can be done different
Bruce is an freakin idiot.
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Merry Christmas to you too. The Polish people only kneel to God. I know that for a fact because my mother is from Poland.
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Marco Ceccarelli do you know which part of Poland? :)
I will follow you on this restore! Can't wait until you are finished!
Hopefully one day you make the comment in video . The silicone spray works like starting fluid spray in gasoline engines when gets use on Diesel engines . I’m an mechanic and I use it.
In typical Bruce Wilson fashion, he electrocutes his help. And if it was me I would get that blue Peterbilt that was near the White Freightliner, but I did see a couple others that might be better projects like the White Cab Over that was covered in tree sap. Personally I would love to find an old 1948 Diamond Rio or maybe an old 1945 Kenworth, or maybe even an old Autocar even an old MACK from the 1940's.
Merry Christmas Bruce and family. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!🙏🙏
Merry Christmas to you as well. From Ontario Canada..
@@jefferymaclean9467 thank you. I'm from West Virginia. Don't tell anyone tho 🤭😁🤭😁
@@josephboley I'm in your sister state. Merry Christmas.
Bruce with respect and with hindsight being perfect, when you decided to not buy the truck, you should have shelved the video. Pretty disappointing waiting for a start, only to have the abandoned at the end.
He's too stupid to figure these trucks out.
Hell no, this was really interesting.
greg doherty he's just a squirrel trying to get a nut. Silly rabbit. Tricks are for kids.
Hence, will it start... this one apparently will not.
Its part of the process really. He did the work and its good to show its not all fun and profit, sometimes you invest and lose your time.
Thanks to these Will it run videos, I have now decided my tractor fever should start with a international, ford, or yanmar for a great price that may not need much but arent running.
Wish me luck! Love the videos.
That was half arsed.
Are you sure it wasn’t in gear.?
Before you put a battery in it you should have pulled the valve covers to check the racks weren’t seized and barred the motor over.
If it was seized you could pull the injectors easily and put oil/diesel in the bores.
You need to watch some bus grease monkey. Detroit’s two strokes are not hard.
It’s probably right to walk away at 4K. For that money it should run like a dream.
You read my mind. Scott (Bus Grease Monkey) is an excellent resource on 2 stroke Detroits. His son, Tyler, is well versed also.
And pull the glow plugs if you think the cylinders are flooded. Such a cringeworthy event
Nate Prikkel yeah glow plugs 🤣🤣🤣
No such thing as glow plugs on a 2-stroke Detroit diesel engine(or 4-stroke). Before you put ANY battery power to the starter on ANY old truck, ALWAYS bar it over by hand....on a 2-cycle Detroit, pull the rocker covers and ensure you have FULL CONTROL of the rack. Be CERTAIN of what configuration the batteries are connected....
OH SH** best intro ever
Lol happened to me too when I was just starting working on cars 😂
🤨 12 or 24 volt syst... OH SHIT!
I love seeing iceman on the vlog. Lucky to have such a great bloke to help you out 👍🏻
love your vids Bruce never thought I would be watching trucks but it’s something different
I drove Trucks a lot like this one when that was brand new. I drove Cabover tankers and I drove Conventional but mostly COE. I ran California / Oregon / Washington / Nevada and Arizona. I pulled 40 foot flats and 40 and 45 ft tanks and doubles too. A lot of truck and trailer tankers. Every type of engine from Cummings/ Detroit/ Cat/ even IH. Trans were 13 speed and 15 speed Roadranger 4 and 3 4 and 4 and a 5 and 4. I love the COE. Drove Pete/ KW / Mack/ International/ Freightliner/ and eve and old 1965 Dodge coe with a 318 Detroit and 4 and 4.
26:08 you wanna bring some badass semi content to TH-cam cause no one else is doing it??? Hahahahah that’s a good one ... there’s many guys doing it now 😏
What puzzles me is he claimed to be doing a total restoration, every bolt and nut but wouldnt start by rebuilding the engine to get it running 😂😂. At least I can watch your new project
riding coat tails
Bruce Wilson content has been what he has seen being done already on TH-cam.
Here we go again😂
Full restoration? I can’t wait please keep up the videos. You’ve become. Y favorite
You guys should meet up with Scott the Bus Grease Monkey. He's like the guru with all things Detroit.
Yes sir he definitely is. I told him that he looks like Meat Loaf too...🤣🤣🤣 When it comes to Detroit, there's not much alive better than he is.
That's the first time ive ever seen a Detroit not start. It has to be something simple because unless it has a hole through the block, those engines will crank. You should call Busgreasemonkey from youtube.
It's something simple the guy working on it that thinks he's a mechanic
Sheeit I see them run with holes in the block. Only thing that stops these is friction welding and lack of fuel. Lol
It wasn't no semi, but I had an old Allis Chalmers hd5 that sat for 20 yrs. Barred over the motor and pumped out the water. Pulled the cover and had one injector working (271) with a few shots of wd-40 in the exhaust port and it took off... The fan blade was moving on this semi. Never seen a locked up motor and the fan blade move...I call this lack of experience
Na its good you didnt take it cause you got no idea about those motors. You dont just start a detroit after its been sitting. Almost guarantee you that motor would have run away had it cranked over. And you cant just hook those cables up however you want and "try" it. Those motors will also run backwards and cause a whole other series of problems
What issues will running backwards cause?
They can still runaway running backwards and they sound funny and detuned
This video made mechanics and mothers cringe everywhere. How many times did they swap the leads to that battery? Its a good way to get blown up.
Those sound fine running backwards, you'll think gauges are acting weird and then you see exhaust coming from the air cleaner, real WTF moment!!!..
There's a reason for that emergency shutoff!!,if dump truck was lugged down near 0 rpms and driver hit clutch too soon there was excellent chance of reversing crank rotation ..Been there Done that!
As far as I know the Series 60 was the only one that could ACTUALLY run backwards, but idk
I started out in a 1973 cap over pet hauling cows over wolf creek pass from Durango colo to the stocks yards in Greeley colo it was a trip like the work you all do on the old trucks
Please get this truck Pimped Bruce! Such a great truck. Maybe pull the motor and jam in a Caterpillar? lol The old Dtroit's are pretty reliable but... Stretch the back frame a bit get her all chromed out! lol Sick!!
Is Ice-Man okay? Man that was scary. Glad to see everyone is safe. Don’t worry Bruce it wasn’t meant to be, there’s another truck out there that you need to find. By passing on this offer up, you will get to the real one you will take home. Everything will be ok.
Why don’t you make the international truck a show truck? Is it not meant to be for the cabover? Wishing you and everyone out there a Merry Christmas full of good health, happiness and success. Keep them videos comin’! You’re doing a great job!
bar it over before thinking bout turning the switch
Ray Shogan I will second that. I doubt it’s seized.
What does, bar it over, mean?
@@BathtubBass turn the motor over with a socket on the front of the crank connected to a bar that is a least 20 foot long.
@@Paulman50 Oh cool!
I think he should have got the 4 6volt that should be in it would have had more cranking power. I really don't think is locked up. Wonder why he didn't try to bar it over first
Hey don’t worry about it Bruce, shit happens my friend.
We just appreciate all the work you do to give us the excellent videos that you do.
Have a great Christmas.
Detroit Diesels are great engines. Most people have no idea how to work on them. I worked on them for 16 years in the Navy so I have a little experience with them. I have never seen a 71 series that did not have a 24 volt system so I was surprised when you tried to start it with 12 volts. From what I could see the engine was not frozen, but, you did not have enough battery for the system.
You also did not check the injectors as when they sit for a long period you need to start them with the governor disconnected so you can force the rack to the closed position is they have a stuck injector.
I heard frame chopped and stretched and I lost it! Amazing project!
that what it needs is another battery
Nice to see someone do a true 'Will it start?' video 👍
Usually, you always know they do at the end.
You should consider doing the White Volvo GMC 90s model in the back. I always loved those 🔥
it needs 4 battery run in series
Or two of the same size big excavator batteries like the first one he bought
Series? 48V?
@@_Junkers it 24 not 48 that what the mag switch does take it from 12 to 24 back to 12.
@@_Junkers just 24 volt
@@michaelstapleton5510 Didn't realize these batteries came in 6V
You guys are such hacks. That made a half revolution! Something May have been froze, but not the motor
This same dude chopped the entire roof off his last project truck for no reason. They are hacks.
@@Monaghan those actions made me unsubscribe
17.30 thinking a just took a shit and am watching this on my phone in Scotland🤣🏴👌.
Guys, I watch your videos very much. Cabover trucks are cool. Awesome Milwaukee tool I dream to get at least something from their tool line! Like for the video, good luck!
You need a cabover fleet
The starter system is running on 24 Volt
Y'all doing a great job
Merry Christmas to u all
Making and watching the video
God bless you all
I've always loved semi trucks. Can't say I know a whole lot about them, but I really enjoyed watching this
Ask "Bus grease monkey" on youtube
He works with those engines on a daily basis.
You need the Pete on the other side of the cabover that thing is sweet!
I wouldn't mind having that old pete
Agreed!
No worries, i love seeing the progress on the other truck, just keep making videos, they are all awesome!!!!
Haven't even started the video yet but oh my god.. cabover "will it start" thats my dream vid.. I saw the thumbnail and just thought
"damn I hope its Bruce" and it fuckin IS!
You should’ve did a collab with Bus Grease Monkey, he would’ve had that old Detroit awake and running like it was never dead.
Dude needs to get someone out there who actually knows what they are doing to get this thing started...
True
I agree!
Cut him a break he's only 25 he still got a lot to learn but give him his props he's doing pretty good to be as young as he is nowadays everybody relied on the Internet or a computer so he's doing might as well to be a young good old boy
Yeap. He needs to call the bus grease monkey that guy knows his way around diesel engines not like this guy.
@@jonseaverson1921nah he needs to go to school first if he wants to work around engines or he could get hurt or hurt others. No breaks.
Sad that the White Freightliner won't be part of the future, however, I'm REALLY pumped about you going all in on the International!
I guess money is no object with this guy.
Bruce's brother "they took ar durrbs" 😂
8v92T , cant wait to hear that baby scream
Biggest lessons I’ve ever learned in life are when I didn’t reach the top of the mountain. Nothing wrong with being turned back.
That truck is worth saving it’s truly an old survivor love it keep up the good work my friend
That engine wasn't sized all it need was a new ground cable I can tell that without being there bring ur multimeter next time no fun wasting money
That's how a car sounds when you starting it up and you have a dead battery, I can confirm it's not a mechanical issue
1973 Green Dripper positive ground, reverse polarity fried voltage regulator, pull drain plug on oil pan and check for water. If there, it most likely came from cooling system. The 92 series drippers have 4valve heads, water below port cooling, wet sleeve liners, articulated pistons, and an intercooler. All of this makes for coolant leaks, there is also an oil cooler, but that doesn't cause hydrostatic lock. Looks like a good marine application (anchor). In any case, unless you want to learn way to much about the two stroke joke, and how they turn diesel fuel directly into noise and soil contamination, with no detectable by products, best bet is to back slowly away and then turn and run. I'm sure you can find a better sows ear for "project silk purse". There's lots of parts no longer available, OEM, and a lot of the jobber stuff doesn't fit as good. If you can get it for a song, you can most likely find a good running 8V71 or 92 for next to nada.
Rick Swanstrom damn dude, that was harsh
@ 17:37 I literally almost shit breaks when the battery terminals sparked on IceMan lol😂😂😂
Pull the valve covers and make sure the rack is free. Free up the injectors and make sure they slide nice and smooth! Bus Grease Monkey has shown how to do this in several of his videos when he works on old Gray-hound Busses with the 2 stroke Diesel engines.
bar the bloody engine over with a big scaffold bar, if it is siezed you can feel it, injectors out and fill the bores with diesel 1st... done that with a 12cyl english electric lump out of a train, was goosed so ended up stripping down and overhauling it
You need to look into busgreasemonkey
Edit: guy is smart when it comes to Detroit engines as long as you can stand listening to him
A couple of hints. Anytime you jack up a cab that has not been jacked for years. It is a good idea to put a strap or chain on it as a safety. I have seen them fall forward and break the cylinders. Also it makes it much easier to crank them over with the clutch released. Also get a big breaker bar and try to rotate the engine first. It will take all the muscles you have but that will tell all you need to know. I have also seen old starters that acted like that. And there was nothing wrong with the engine. Another nice video. Thank you for putting it online. Just one other thing a bad starter can lock up an engine.
I know it's not a big truck nor was it old, but I had an Expedition that wouldn't turn over. My brother, who's a mechanic, even put a breaker bar on the crank and couldn't get it to budge. Turns out the A/c condenser had overheated so badly that is welded the barings solid and seized the damn engine. Moral of the story is not to give up without checking things over. The stupid thing never did run reliably but I didn't give up on it.
Relatively new here. Does Bruce finish projects? They seem to get attention for 2-3 videos and then vanish from content.
You completely correct!!
I’m not a mechanic nor have I stuck a wrench on a Diesel engine myself and even I can tell this guy has no idea what he’s doing with this attempt.
You realize he worked on diesel engines for a living right
@@christopherdawson3708
yeah.....doesn't think to bring 24 volts though.....
@@christopherdawson3708 I'd say he watched people work on trucks maybe..
That place looks like a treasure trove full of old trucks and such! I would LOVE to go there XD
I love your shirt “make tractors great again”
Should learn a little more about firing off one of these beasts. You don't just get in and turn the key, but hey there is something to be said about a guy to get excited over a speaker in the cab but wants to cut and stretch a frame.I think I'm moving on from this.
This guy is up to views that makes him money but has no concern this beautiful old rig.
HAPPY GARDENING WITH PHELMAR cabovers suck
Don't ever, ever, EVER try to start a Detroit without barring it over and making sure the rack isn't stuck. If it runs away and there isn't an emergency shut-down, all you do is stand there and watch it blow up. Why don't you go find what's wrong with it instead of just "doing something for TH-cam"?
You gettem Mopar man
And gets right offended if you criticize him!! Typical milenial...
jiminy cricket Are you offended by people getting offended? You sound like the real millennial here.
@@Crashoverride1234 LOL sure. Like I give two shits what you think buddy!! Go play with your Barbie and Ken dolls...😂😂😂
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Go back and give it another shot!! I'd love to see it running!