A Sim Racing Time Machine | Bremgarten For Assetto Corsa
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
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New Assetto Corsa mod time, and Bermgarten is another stunning classic circuit produced by Fat Alfie.
The Bremgarten circuit was located to the North of Bern, though expansion of the city has rather made that distinction somewhat needless. At just over 7Km long, it's actually fairly sensible by the standards of the day, and thus makes for a decent playground in a racing sim. The parkland location provides a stunning backdrop for this road course, which as you can see from the images features plenty of that all-important elevation change. And, as a side order to the hilly bits, we're also treated to narrow tarmac, at least where this is any tarmac, and a seemingly limitless number of trees lining the route, as was the style at the time. There really are only two notable stopping points on the circuit, with the rest being made up of fast, and very fast corners. All in all, it's exactly the sort of place for which risk assessments were invented.
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The surface detail is stunning. Something lacking in a lot of natural vintage road circuits. Love it
Oh for sure. And there's a lot of variety in it as well. Horrible low grip cobblestones, followed by the bumpy section by the quarry(?) and then out onto better maintained open roads.
Wow, adding a comment to a thread including Jake from GPLaps and Chris Haye! I am in the presence of greatness.... 😉 Love this track, will grab it for sure.
Good to see you dropping in here, too.
Alright, time for a community race around it, right ? :D
Maserati 250F lets go ;)
I'm Swiss and always dreamed of an accurate representation of this circuit. Having walked around that forest a few times, the resemblence is really striking!
That's very cool! I am keen to take a look myself some time.
Wow, I wasn't expecting to see that! Absolutely beautiful video work, Chris. You've really flattered my track :o
My usual test is "Does it look okay at full racing speed?", but I think in future I'll need to check it looks okay at x0.1 speed or super-slow-mo before I release anything :D
Thanks again for the review, it's very much appreciated!
I think I pretty well laid out my thoughts on this track in the comments to your onboard lap video.
And I found a Race Department chain with comments from you in it from some months back, and now I'm trying to find any sort of track maps for either Inselsberg or Koenigswinter.
I also noticed in that thread that you didn't seem much for circuits in the US. Even so, I guess if I were to suggest any you might take a look at, they'd be any of the 3 versions of the Long Island circuit used for the 1904-06 Vanderbilt Cup races, Bottomless Lakes in New Mexico, Watkins Glen (1948-52), Elkhart Lake (1951-52), and Bridgehampton (1949-53).
But anyway, this Bremgarten is stunning. I've also been glad for the eye candy I can get of Battenbergring, through your videos, the Vintage AC races from a little while back, or the pictures you posted in that RD thread.
Take care, Thanks for the excellent tracks so far. And looking forward to future projects.
Haha - I do try to limit the slow-mo stuff these days!
Great work as ever man, I always enjoy making videos about well made mods, they never feel like work :)
@@Villoresi You can find descriptions of those two German tracks in the PDF file called "RennenRacesVitesse" on wegcircuits.nl - if you send me a PM on RaceDepartment I can send you the layouts marked up on topographic maps. My current focus is on Battenbergring, Solitude and Schottenring, and I don't anticipate starting any new tracks in the foreseeable future.
@@davidpemberton5995 Yeah, I was able to find Inselsberg on the CIRCUITI database as well, but had to go into that PDF to find Koenigswinter at all.
Well, you've given Switzerland some attention, now back to Germany before the Italians or French. I'm guessing your main focus is still the classic, 11.5-km version of Solitude used in 1935-65. I'm just noting that seeing as you have those 2 1920s road circuits on your list, and Solitude also had a couple longer iterations in 1924-30 and '31.
It will definitely be nice to see Battenberg get properly out there. I suppose it wouldn't go amiss to sneak in a nod or two to the Windsor branch of the Mountbatten family.
Welp, I guess I'm signing up for RD, though that may have to wait for tomorrow. Have some family in town to go see a bit later.
@@davidpemberton5995 Please consider to start some day on classic Sachsenring. I would love to see this track given the right treatment it deserves.
Kunos should have tipped Fat Alfie the wink by now, and released his incredible work as a pack in an official capacity - perhaps at a small but not insignificant cost through Steam. Race Dept. deserves a nod too I'm sure. He is undoubtedly the master of vintage AC tracks, and possibly AC tracks as a whole. Lovely camera work to further showcase his talents Chris! Thanks, looking forward to enjoying this tomorrow with the right cars, and my 250 GTO rim and gated shifter!
Yeah, completely agree. Though, I doubt it would be in Kunos' business interests to look towards the past sadly.
How do you like the Thrustmaster 250 GTO rim? I keep thinking about picking one up to convert to a more universal quick release.
Well, both Sergio Loro (F3 Classic Tracks) and LilSki are very good also. Each of the 3 (including Fat-Alfie/David Pemberton) have different specialties.
LilSki does great recreations of classic, or classic-style, permanent road courses. His Riverside and Bridgehampton are truly spectacular.
Sergio perhaps tends to pick up classic tracks at the shorter end of the spectrum, but you also see some other sorts of jewels from him, like his '60s versions of Watkins Glen, Zandvoort, Hockenheim, and Rouen, as well as his Sudschleife and '50s Norisring.
Fat-Alfie, well, he picks up the big stuff, the old public road circuits that are no longer around. This is his shortest track, aside from Thomson Road, and even that one is still nearly 5 km around. And the biggest one, in the works, is the massive Mugello Stradale.
@@ChrisHaye hey mate actually we have conversed about the rim before - yeah it's a beautiful rim, just very light feeling and I'm not 100% sure it's wood even if TM say it is ;) Definitely ticks the boxes for a vintage buttonless rim, I'd just not recommend paying full price for it (I paid half, very lucky timing). Cheers Chris!
Beautiful video as always Chris! I love to consciously think about all the small virtual camera movement that you put in your footage. Stunning cinematography coupled with a capable storyteller this is the content we need more of in the simracing community!
Thanks man, as always. I'm trying to be a bit more subtle with the camera moves recently. Still learning as I go :)
There's nothing I can add about the feel or the visuals, but one of the many, many astounding things about FatAlfie's circuits to me is just how well the AI plays with them, which is never easy in vintage cars at the best of times. I can hardly thread a Ferrari P4 through the track on my own, but somehow he's gotten the Fords and Ferraris to play nicely with each other for lap after lap without causing the usual wreckages. The attention to the unseen is always much appreciated because it gives the circuit so much longevity (and is a big reason why his circuits now make up a third of my AC install).
Right, back to spotting birds and marshall's coffee mugs...
The AI thing is definitely something I've noted. And I guess it's a small detail for a lot of people, but I spend a huge amount of time in single player, especially with older content, so it's really important that it works well.
@@ChrisHaye Aye, especially since having a little one, my sim racing requires a pause button and no specific timings, so AI is critical to my enjoyment and immersion - I lambasted AC's AI for years, until I realised that it's actually quite good fun (as long as it's a single class race) when racing on tracks from modders who have mastered it (and as long as you do a practice/qualy session for them to calibrate).
I certainly don't begrudge any track builder who hasn't perfected this part - it's not a natural part of building a 3D circuit - but racing at any of FatAlfie's tracks is an example of how well this CAN be done. Fortunately there are some AI experts helping with some of the other vintage tracks too (eg KevinK2's Monaco '66 AI).
Thanks for the great video, always at your artistic best with AC mods!
Getting my sim racing rig delivered in two days - can't wait! I'd love to see you break down the major types of racing categories and the considerations about getting into each. I have no idea what I want to start with... Keep up the great content!
That's a great idea actually, thanks! I'll add it to the list :)
@@ChrisHaye Awesome, can't wait! Also I get it tomorrow so you've got about 24 hours, no rush! ;)
Oh man, my life has just been mixed from two worlds. I thought...."i know this name?!" ;D Of course EFT. ...hehe. Nice that you order yourself a simracing rig. Would be nice if you would present it later.
That's such a small but amazing detail. The leafs on the track really sell it
No kidding, I noticed that immediately.
Yeah, it's a silly thing really, but it does bring it to life!
I‘m from Bern and just blown away… Such a great track!
Now that is a beautiful sight. The level of detail is mesmeric to say the least - if you had a look at the GPLaps vid for this circuit, it started with an old bicycle propped up against a hay bale.
Great video as usual Chris.
all i can say Chris is Wow the track surfaces are brilliant the details are just stunning, I cant imagine how much work the modders must have to put in to get tracks to this level, your camera work & commentary in the replays is just so engaging to watch as well great work.
I know the location from jogs very well. Splendid job regarding athmosphere, surroundings and topography.
I had a look around on google earth, it looks like a nice palce to spend time outdoors!
There's so much detail in those shots I was expecting to see the leaves at the edge of the track get kicked up by the cars. Fantastic stuff; looking forward to giving it a go soon.
The quality of Alfie's work is insane. I would give an arm and a leg to see the behind the scenes of how he recreates these tracks.
Thanks for introducing me to some awesome cars/circuits Chris. Your videos are always so beautifully put together, could watch this kind of content all evening. 🙌🏼
Thanks for the kind words Scott! :)
Excellent and fantastically fun video, Chris. Well done!
Yes, this track is "terrifying". It's one of the most relentless circuits I can think of. I mean, there are places around the Nordschleife and others where you can get a comparative rest, but definitely not here.
This recreation of Bremgarten makes me wonder just how demanding the largest part of the lap would be around the old Clermont Ferrand, as done by David.
I really do hope Fat-Alfie is able to finish off Battenbergring fairly soon. These long stints on Bremgarten and Mugello Stradale should have freshened him up some to go back to that other project and tick off the final few percent.
We could also possibly do with a few more top-notch 1930s GP cars in AC.
The 1923 grand prix cars by nicecuppatea feel amazing on this track. They just feel at home sliding through the fast corners. The bumps and penultimate corner become a real challenge. Even driving slow, they feel fantastic. Especially the Fiat. The Bugatti is a real challenge under braking too.
This is awesome. Loved this track in Grand Prix Legends. Fat Alfie's Fonteny, Deutschlandring and Feldbergring are my most favorite tracks in AC, so Bremgarten created by him is awesome. And this video really does the track justice :) The track looks stunning!
Very good review, I really like your calming voice and these astonishing captures of those fine little details this masterpiece has to offer! The circuit turned out even better than I expected (although I thought that would be impossible for an FatAlfie-Track because my expectations were higher than Bob Marley)! Let's hope for many more years of AC modding!
Stunning video, love this track, one of my favs.
A stunning video of a stunning track - well done both!
Fantastic track, love it in the old cars, thank you
This is a great track. Raced 1931 Bugatti T-51A's the first time around.
Wow..
The amount of detail is stunning!
Thanks for reigniting my passion for race sims 🤓
Quality review of a quality content.
Thanks Eduardo!
Im truly amazed by how good the graphics are in these videos. What graphics mods do you use and/or recommend?
Great review! One question thou do u plan on making a video about ultrawide monitors since I have only seen you mention them in the explanation video about why you only use a single screen. Would be pretty cool to hear your opinion about them :)
Your videos are always stunning, can you cover some rally racing in the future? Maybe WRC 9 or Dirt 2.0 or the like
Loved the pine cones.
very nicely put together!
Thanks Pedro, :)
@@ChrisHaye ãs all your other videos :)
Not related to AC but i would love to see a review of Simlabs new wheelstand with seat, the WS-Pro. Nobody has done one yet so make it happen Chris!
FatAlfie, top notch as expected. 👌
Yeah, never dissapoints!
looks quality man.
Yeah, most definitely. Fat Alfie is a safe pair of hands though, so I guess it was to be expected.
@@ChrisHaye iv installed it, but cant hear much due to my rigs audio has shit out, need a cheap outboard audio box, just havent got the cash at the mo.
What wheel base or nM do you recommend when driving these 60s cars? thanks
HOLY DAMB, that looks amazing. I REALLY have to get a PC. (stoopit global chip shortage!!) Being stuck playing AC and ACC on consoles, the envy of seeing those PC mods that I don't have access to is absolutely killing me. :/
I'm here rewatching this; and suddenly nostalgic for a circuit I'd never heard of before now. {{*sighs longingly*}}
What cars would you suggest using for this? Like what are those open-wheeled cars throughout the video called? The ones at 0:55?
Fat Alfie is god.
Epic
Great
Wow everyone is posting about assetto corsa today! 😜
It just won't die ;)
Do you have to get a mod to race old f1 cars
Time for AC2.
If I was Konus I would just do something else than driving simulators, any random thing like a sailing simulator for example, because they made a very good product they can't make a better one not even ten years later.
link?
Ah, good spot! I've updated the description: www.racedepartment.com/downloads/bremgarten-1950s.43576/
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