Dust Collection for Newbies: Introduction to Dust Collection
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- This is an introduction to dust collection. If you don't know anything about dust collection, or maybe just a little, then this is the place to start. I cover the concept of dust collection, learn the basic terms, and put together a dust collection system for my garage workshop. Also see my follow-up video on grounding: • Dust Collection Ground...
Index:
Definition of "Dust": 00:38
The Basics: 01:12
Kind of a Drag: 02:12
Hooking Up: 02:52
Blast Gates: 05:40
Dist in the Wind: 06:49
Cyclones (Dust Deputy): 07:31
Dry Run: 09:07
Ports & Hoses: 10:32
PVC Measurements: 11:19
Cutting PVC: 12:26
Molding PVC: 13:50
Tips: 14:42
Options: 15:45
Final Thoughts: 16:25
Other relevant videos:
Dust Collection Grounding: • Dust Collection Ground...
Make PVC Dust Collection Fittings: • Make PVC Dust Collecti...
Simple Fix: Dust Collection Bucket Collapse: • Simple Fix: Dust Colle...
All Products featured in my videos: www.amazon.com/shop/thenewbie...
Products featured in this video:
Vacuum - Craftsman XSP 12 Gallon 5.5 Peak HP: amzn.to/2lH0ZpP
Remote Control Outlet Switch: thd.co/2DatBOL
Dust Deputy: amzn.to/2C8EOzD
Dust Deputy & Bucket: amzn.to/2CaGSXW
Lid Opener: amzn.to/2CcX3UU
Caliper (Digital): amzn.to/2CasjDX
Blast Gate: amzn.to/3brSVBN
Hose (Clear) - 2 1/2” - POWERTEC: amzn.to/2FmnVDH
Hose Clamps (10 pack) 2 1/2” (GLIDESTORE): amzn.to/2n0bEAJ
Hose Clamps (5 pack) 2 1/2” (POWERTEC): amzn.to/2qLnqjg
FlexForm Hose Kit: amzn.to/2CEOFNd
Blue Vacuum Hose - 2 1/2” Expandable (Dust Right): amzn.to/2YbTUih
Hack Saw (Stanely): amzn.to/2Smh5F1
Dust Mask: amzn.to/2VhvqY7
Router Table Dust Port - 2 1/2” - Rockler: amzn.to/2FHEjif
Dust Port (Universal) - Rockler: amzn.to/2DyLEA7
Power Tool Switch - Rockler: amzn.to/2EJyi3m
Wood Clamp (10"): amzn.to/2CcXq1K
Belt & Disc Sander (Wen): amzn.to/2XxE3iu
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You probably won't see this since it's an old video, but I will leave this little nugget anyway. You should look into dwv pvc fittings. Dwv, stands for drain, waste, and vent. These are considerably cheaper plus they have sweep 90s and y's. These will allow less restrictive airflow. Also look for cellular core dwv pvc pipe. It's not only cheaper, but much lighter and easier to cut.
Thanks for the info! And yes (obviously) I did see your comment even though it's on an old video. 😄
Neither of you will probably see this since it’s an older comment and even older video but I’m stealing this advice
Glad to help!
...none of you will probably see this because...ummm...well, you know the drill...😉
Glad I ran across this as there's a lot of good info...thanks guys!!!
Matt
Fantastic idea. Thanks for uploading. Great video. 👌👍
The first video that didnt try to make dust collecting sound like rocket science. Simple and easy to understand for a newbie like me
Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄
I used to work for Oneida Air systems. All their products are first rate, and American Made in Syracuse, NY. I recommend running grounding wires around/along all your PVC, connecting to the metal in your flex hoses, and run to a ground in the floor, so as to prevent static buildup and getting shocked (not lethal, but annoying all the same) from your pipes.
Thanks for the comment!
I've got a pretty extensive dust collection under my couch.
LOL. Those are dust bunnies. Or dare I say it? They're dust rabbets. 😛
Ba-dum pssssss!
@@6980869 😂
Booruvcheek Love your comment
You can easily expand your system to under all the beds, and don't forget under the refrigerator.
Great job explaining things. I'm in the middle of doing my shop and you gave me some great ideas.
Thanks! If you come across anything I didn't cover, feel free to leave a comment.
It's been 3 years and he's still replying. Legend
As long as I can, I'll keep replying. Thanks for noticing! 😄
@@TheNewbieWoodworker all good. Thanks for all the tips! I am going to follow your dust collection system idea for my workshop
@@itsthatepic919 Thanks! There's a dust cyclone that's better than the Dust Deputy - cheaper and better airflow. amzn.to/3sweTvK. I'm planning on doing a video on it sometime soon, unless my plans change.
I appreciate how simple the explanation is. I was watching a couple other videos and there were too many words I didn't know, so I couldn't understand. Relatively new to woodworking...thank you :)
Thanks! That was exactly why I made this video in the first place. And actually, that's the reason I started this channel - lots of TH-camrs forget that beginners don't know all the things they do.
Watched this for dust collection and saw the sanding station. Brilliant! Thanks for the idea!
Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄
Wow, you made the most informative video I've seen on dust collection. Thank you so much!
Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄
Great video. You cover the basics and don’t get hung up in perfection. Your style makes it enjoyable to watch. Thanks
Thanks! Glad I could help!
Thank YOU, I needed your GR8 guidance that you provided. I am building one for my shop and my stumbling upon your presentation was perfect timing!
You're quite welcome, and I love when that happens! 😄
I love your instructional style. Straight to the point and filled with useful info.
Thanks, I appreciate it! And sorry for the late reply.
Well done my man, I’m definitely going to reference this video when I get to this stage of my workshop. Thank you
Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄
You're a gentleman. It's wonderful to watch the 'normal budget' guy who's got a great demeanour, enthusiasm and good delivery process for info. Makes it feel obtainable as when I watch some of the 'sponsored' vids or cash no object vids (which are still very informative and good to watch) it makes it feel a bit downhearted especially when you see a garage full of dewalt or festool kit! I think my kit adds up to the price of a festool sander but I still make some good items. Cheers fella.
Thanks, and LOL. Yeah, anytime I see those green tools, I know we're talking bucks. But heck, people still make stuff using hand tools, so at least we don't have to do that, right? :)
@gsweater Takes one to know one!
One of the best videos I’ve seen on TH-cam about anything! Very well made. Everything is so well explained that I need a dust collection system in my garage too!
Thank you so much! I'm glad I could help. Feel free to ask questions. TH-cam might not send you a notification that I answered them, but trust me, I will answer them. 😄
That sanding table was pretty neat! Never thought of that. And i like how you're showing even a small wood shop can have a dust collection system.
Thanks! And yes, even a shop in one half of a two-car garage can have dust collection. 😄
I'm impressed with your depth of detail that's exactly what beginners need. It's one thing to perform a task and another to be able to effectively teach others. You are a true teacher. I appreciate the humble approach. As a 6th generation master woodcrafter, I couldnt have done a better job
Wow, thanks for that! It means a lot, especially coming from someone with so much experience. I really appreciate it. 😄
Dude, I have to say that the cabinets in your shop look awesome! Good video. I have watched a few of your vids and you have it going on. Keep up the good work. Regards, Jerry
Thanks, Jerry! I didn't build the cabinets, by the way. Our neighbors had a company make some for them, and we liked them so much we used the same company. They really did a great job.
Great video. Fully explains the basics of dust collection in an easy to understand format.
Awesome! Glad I could help.
I just love your videos. You provide so much information, and that really helps a lot. Plus, your voice is so pleasant to listen to. I'm so glad that you're here for all of us. Great work.
Wow, thanks! That's a very nice thing to say, and I really appreciate it. 😄
You and Matthias Wandel are the type of woodworkers that we all need :). Practical, honest, problem-solving, and not too caught up with high-end equipment or sponsors. Subscribed!
Wow! That's one of the best compliments I've ever received. To put me in the same category as Matthias, it's just... wow. Thanks doesn't seem like an expressive enough word, but it's all I've got, so thanks! (Needless to say, Matthias is one of my heroes. My favorite TH-camr, by far.) And may I just say, you're an awesome photographer! Again, another word that hardly describes what I'm feeling. If you're ever down near the Brea Mall, I'd love to pick your brain.
I’m not sure I agree with this entire statement. The part about high end equipment and sponsors. First of all these you tubers make these videos for people like us. If they can get some money back for their hard work and time I am 100% on board. This video we are watching has links to buy equipment off amazon so they may make a small profit. Again i love this idea and use it often to buy stuff I need while giving back to these youtubers. I believe the money they get from view on youtube is nominal so why not get a sponsor or add amazon links? If woodworkers like these can make some money or better yet a living that also benefits us! It will attract more woodworkers and skilled people that may not have been interested in sharing their skills with us. As far as what type of equipment be it budget or high end I see no reason to even bring this up. If a person likes and can afford high end equipment that they prefer then hell yeah go to town. It’s not the equipment that they are using that we are watching for it is the skill that we may hope to replicate ourselves. Just my 2 cents. I do agree great video and content. Rant officially over :)
@@PRESA25 I can't speak for Daniel, but here's my feelings on the subject. If you get to rant, so do I. 😛 (Although this really isn't a rant.)
I enjoy watching videos where people use high-end equipment. I find them entertaining, and who doesn't like to dream? And I obviously agree that if a creator can make money, then that's a good thing. Strike that - it's a great thing! 😛
On the other hand, when creators build things using specialised equipment that I don't have and likely will never have, then the video becomes entertainment only. So while I'll be entertained, it's not real useful.
So from an educational standpoint, I'd rather watch videos where people do things that are actually relevant to me and my situation, than videos that solve things in ways I can't afford. Mind you, I'll watch both, but the former are more helpful.
Non-rant officially over. 😄
I agree 100% especially as a teacher.
@@rimrock1000 On behalf of ungrateful students everywhere, thank you for your service. 😄I didn't appreciate many teachers when I was growing up. I sure do now!
Great video. I've set up my own very small workshop on this basis and it works a treat.
Thanks! Glad to know I helped. 😄
Thank you so much for not irritating the crap out of me by rambling on about non related crap! Love watching and learning from someone that stays focused on the subject.
Thank you, and I feel the exact same way about videos. GET TO THE POINT!!! 😛I don't always succeed, but I try. Thanks for noticing.
amen!!!
@@mervfriberg5020 😄
Great job explaining the ins and outs of your dust collection system, I’ll incorporate this into mine as I’m just getting the shop setup. Thank you.
Awesome! Glad I could help. 🙂
Hi, One of the best videos I have seen for a while, very well presented and explained.
Wow, thanks! That means a lot to me!
I Totally Agree.
Awesome! Thanks!
U made me feel so good with the knowledge.
Awesome! Glad I could help! 😄
The Newbie Woodworker you made me feel good too.
I just got my woodshop up and running and happened upon your great video. Thanks for the great ideas.
You're quite welcome, and glad I could help! 😄
You are a breath of fresh air. Thanks for keeping it real.
Thanks - that means a lot to me. And I'll keep trying. :-)
Very helpful video. Thank you very much for sharing.
Thanks, and you're welcome!
I already have a 21/2" Dust Collection set up that works great, but i have to say this is one of the best examples of Dust Collection Set Up, that i have seen on TH-cam and so you defo get a Thumbs Up from me, and a New Subscription.
Barry (ENG)
Thanks! That means a lot to me!
10.5 inch! Wow
20/2=10
1/2=.5
Newbie Dan, just wanted to let you know 2 years on people are still watching, and liking, this video. Also I wanted to add that I really enjoy you videos. You have an excellent screen presence and sense of humor. Keep it up! :)
Thanks! It's kind of funny - I saw a need for something like this, and I managed to fill it. And still, after all this time, nobody's really made a similarly basic video. Sometimes people just need basic information to start the journey! 😄
Thank you! This is exactly what I needed to get started on my dust collection system.
Awesome! Have fun. 😄
Nice video, I cut pvc on my DeWALT 20 V mitersaw what has a 7 1/4 blade, important is to lower the blade slowly so you get a nice straight cut, the good thing is your pipe is supported on both sides against the fence.
Thanks for sharing your video, love it
Thanks, and thanks for the tip! 😄
I've done the same, but I usually use a hacksaw. It's just easy enough.
I use a chop saw to cut PVC all the time go slow ,perfect cuts, nice and square ,very quick
Thanks! 😄
I've had PVC explode on both table and chop saws. Scary for sure and luckily no collateral damage resulted. Being lazy, and typically not needing perfection, I use a sawzall.
I use a piece of long string and rub it back and forth quickly along the pvc. Creates enough friction to melt through and makes a clean cut fairly quickly. FYI
@@symcardnel1741 😄
@@PatrickScott9192 I've tried this, and it does indeed work. Thanks for sharing!
articulate and well spoken. Thanks for the competency and thoroughness.
Thanks! That means a lot! 😄
Thank you for this. Gave me the kick in the butt to really organize my dust collection.
Awesome! Glad to help. 😄
Great video, loaded with info, delivered in a very clear way.
One recommendation. On your cyclone, you have it mounted on a bucket lid, making it a bit of a pain to open. On mine, I cut 2 circles if 1/2" plywood on my bandsaw. One a bit larger than the bucket opening, one smaller, leaving about a 1/2" all the way around. Glue them together and cut out drill a centered hole that matches the opening of your cyclone base. Mount the cyclone to the board. Around the outside of the smaller circle apply a strip of dense one side sticky foam weather strip. All it has to do is sit on the bucket, no clamp needed. The vacuum will pull it down and make a tight seal on the bucket. Even with a dust gate open I can pick up the bucket and all buy lifting the cyclone and it doesn't loose the seal. Shut it off, move the cyclone assembly and you can easily dump the bucket. It doesn't take long to make, but it saves a lot of aggravation dealing with a typical bucket lid.
Thanks for the kind words, and also for the info on how you handled the lid situation. 😄For me, the $3 lid opener I have (amzn.to/2CcX3UU) makes it really easy to get the lid off, so I think I'll stick with that. But I see the appeal of your solution, definitely!
thx for the helpful video. i use a chop saw all the time for PVC. cuts it square. take your time sawing thru it though.
Great! And you're welcome!
This was probably the most informative video I’ve seen all year. It had everything I wanted and showed every part of the process
Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄
Thanks for sharing. It’s guys like you that makes my life easier.
Thanks! Glad I could help. 😄
I am loving your videos. Very easy to watch and very informative. Very well done. Probably one of the best videos on dust collection I have ever seen. Makes me want to delete mine, lol. Thanks again!
LOL. Thanks. I'm going back through the comments to my videos, because I just realized that TH-cam doesn't always send me an email when someone comments. So, sorry I didn't respond sooner. Live and learn. :o
No problem Dan. I actually think there has been an issue on TH-cam lately with notifications. I think they are aware of it and working on it, but I'm not sure. Have a great holiday
That would explain it. How did you learn about the problem?
The Newbie Woodworker I do a video every Sunday where I welcome my new subscribers for the week. And I had mentioned in the video that I noticed I wasn't getting notified of all my subscribers. That's when another TH-camr that subscribes to me mention the problem.
LOL! I missed your response, because... you guessed it - TH-cam didn't notify me of it. I've been watching for new comments - they're pretty easy to see. But new replies still get buried. I'm going to have to figure out a system here so I don't miss any.
This is a great video. The only caveat is the use of corrugated/flex hose in places that you don't need, e.g. from the vacuum to the cyclone and from the cyclone to the 2" plastic pipe. Flex hose creates significant pressure drop. Even short sections. Flex hose bends are HUGE pressure drops. You made a stand for the vacuum and the cyclone, why not use 2" plastic with long radius elbows. Then in places where you need a tee, use 45° Tees, called Wye Sockets? Also, on the drop to the floor, replace the tee and flex with a Wye Socket, a 45° elbow and 2" plastic tube? Cheaper and way better air flow. You will be able to tell the difference in air flow with you hand over the inlet of the device without any expensive air-flow measuring instruments. Metal or plastic has smooth walls that allow greatly better fluid flow. (Air is a fluid.) You already dry assemble, so disassembly of one connection to empty the bin or vacuum is not difficult. Bottom line: use flex hose only where absolutely necessary and make the lengths as short as possible to dramatically increase air flow Two more points, that make significantly less dramatic difference: #1) Make the blast gates with an extension on the other side of the air flow hole that goes all the way through the gate so there is no groove to catch dust when the gate is open. Further, waxing the slide reduces dust that does get caught and makes the gates slide easier. #2) Round over all edges as much as possible where air flows. Square edges cause much more air flow resistance. What I like about your videos is that they are clearly spoken. That makes a huge difference to us old guys with hearing loss. Well, I was able to attach a screen capture. I don't know if it will stick around when I comment, but if it does... Notice one Long-Radius elbow from the cyclone to the vacuum inlet with all plastic pipe connections.
Thanks for the tips!
Excellent overview covering pretty much every aspect of dust collection usually divided into many videos! Great job!
Thanks! Glad I could help! 😄
I like the step by step. showing the problem and then the solution! great video and looking forward to more videos!
Thanks! It's what I like to do, so people can see the thought process. I *almost* didn't do it that way for this video, and I'm glad I changed my mind. Thanks for letting me know you appreciated it! 😄
Reciprocating saw works great for cutting pvc. Used it a million times.
Awesome! Thanks! 🙂
As a new woodworker whose run into the sawdust issue after purchasing several power saws, I immediately turned to YT for dust collection info. Tons of videos about diy cyclones and complicated builds. Not one explained the rationale and step by step thought process. Until yours. I now completely understand how all these elements work together. I can't thank you enough.
Awesome - I'm so glad I helped! You explained perfectly why I started this channel. Thanks!
Really good video. When I get my 48x64 barn finished, I’ll be referring back to this video for sure. Thank you.
Awesome! Glad I could help. 😄
Absolutely the most friendly video I have ever watched! Great job!!
Wow, what a nice thing to say (or read, in my case) - I really appreciate it! 😄
I use my DeWalt 12" chop saw to cut pvc pipe. Used a high tooth blade (80 tooth) and cut slowly.
Thanks for the info! 👍
A chop saw works great for PVC cutting... Nice video...
Thanks, and thanks for the info! 😄
Totally agree. Use it all the time.
@@bwaldrep11 👍
Just starting to develop a dust collecting system in my small shop, and this was enormously helpful. Thanks for taking the time to do the video.
Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄
Simple and down to earth for basic homeowner with woodworking equipment!
Thanks for the input.
Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 😄
Great video.
Yes, my miter saw cuts PVC great.
Thanks! And thanks for the info on the miter saw!
Mine works great too, BUT don't use a stop block to cut multiple pieces. or if you do use a piece you can pull out of the way so that it won't pinch between the blade and block. I did this the other day cutting 6" pieces for shovel storage and drill storage and it caught and basically exploded everywhere
HickLife yeah you have to make sure the blade stops spinning before you lift up.
Gotta love exploding PVC! :o
Another yes for mitre Saw.
Incidentally, I recently needed to use a forstner bit to drill holes in a PVC pipe and then create a long slot to make a hanging docking station for cordless drills.
I needed to use maximum speed on my drill press to prevent cracking the pipe - had a few failures until I discovered this. The multi tool worked beautifully to make the slots.
Thanks for the video - just subscribed.
Miter saw works amazing to cut square pvc pipes!
Heh heh, "square PVC pipes" - didn't know they even sold those! 😂Just kidding - I know exactly what you meant. And thanks! 😄
@@TheNewbieWoodworker Keep up the good work ! We are watching :) :)
@@lederse Thanks! 😄
This is one of the best dust collection videos I have seen so far for what I need. Thank you!
Thanks, and you're quite welcome! 🙂
This is the best dust collection videos I have seen. Comprehensive and well presented. I'm redoing my shop and I'll follow these tips. Thank you sir!
Thanks you, and you're quite welcome!
I'm about to setup a similar system and, as a suggestion, I was thinking that trying to place the vac as close to the center of all the tools would slightly improve efficiency. This way, I'll have my gates setup right after my vacuum hookup and this will also reduce the length of the vent runs to all my tools. The way yours is setup, the vac is at the far end of the system with the table saw and router at the opposite end. having the vac in the center of the action may help with suction. Seems like your system is working just fine though.
I've thought about doing that before, but it wouldn't work well with my setup. But if you can do it, then by all means, go for it - it sounds like a good idea to me. 😄
I use chop saw regularly to PVC pipe. Take your time to cut. Its quick & easy. Cuts are always square
Thanks for the info! 👍
I finally understand how to set up a dust collection in my small shop. Thank you!
You're quite welcome! 😄
Affordable dust collection explained. Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video.
You're quite welcome! Glad to help. 😄
Good video, but one thing you didn't account for is the very fine particulate. The stuff that escapes from the dust deputy goes into the shopvac and the larger of the small particles drop into the shopvac, but the smallest of the small particles can potentially get sucked through the filter and shot out the exhaust port. It's worth inspecting what filter you have on the vac and if yours isn't rated for fine dust or hepa, then getting something that will hopefully stop those small particles from being blown around the shop. The ones that come standard with the vac just don't cut it for super fine dust.
As I mentioned in my other reply, small dust particles are out of scope for this video.
2:38 "Moving it around like this is kinda a....drag" I dono but I laughed watching the shopvac trundle along behind him.
Thank you! Someone gets my humor. 😂
Thank you for this video. I bought a dust collection system to this about 3 years ago and have not gotten it set up yet. Your video sure helped me see how easy it to set up and use. Looking forward to watching more of your videos! Have a happy and blessed year!!
Thanks - glad I could help! And you too. 😄
I love it! I can't wait to start setting up my dust collection system. Thanks!
Awesome! Have fun. 😄
I cut PVC using a "chop saw" and I find it works just fine, but be sure to have a firm clamp (I use a length of wood grooved with a ""V" at about 60 degrees to hold the round contour of the PVC I am working with) so that the piece does not turn when the blade bites into the soft plastic. As with all softer materials, going slower can make the job safer, let the blade gain a foothold into the material, then slowly nudge the blade down, remember that as you hit the centerline of the round pipe, there is maximum bite going against the wall of the pipe. This is the point you should cut the slowest, to allow the teeth of the blade to take more material away as the saw is lowered, this never giving the material time to "grab" the blade and throw itself out, or blowback into the path of the blade suddenly. Most "rip" blades are not good for cutting PVC, as they have a deeper tooth recess and the teeth are spaced further apart. I would recommend a "finish" blade, (80 tooth or higher for a 12" saw) this gives the blade far less probability of kicking out any material because it is constantly being taken out of the path of the blade before the saw is lowered into the weak material. Never cut softer or "weaker" materials using a dull blade.
Thanks for the great tips!
Oh! THANK YOU! I've already replied to comment asking about this.
Having a rip blade on a miter saw would also defeat the purpose of a miter saw
@@RuminatingWizard 👍
Well, I have a permanently damaged thumbnail from cutting pvc on my miter saw. I was plumbing an entire house and I plunged into a piece of 2" too fast like the speed I would use for wood trim. It exploded! I just forgot for a second it was pvc and not wood trim, my mind was elsewhere. Boom! A sawzall and Black & Decker workmate are perfect and always de-burr the inside and outside of pvc.
Chop saw works great for pvc cutting
Thanks for the info! 👍
Totally!
@@remichapadeau3033 👍
Great video for a newbie like myself, I'll be setting up my dust collection system Saturday during the snowstorm we are going to get hit with. Thanks JJ
Awesome! Glad I could help. 🙂
I appreciate your humble and direct approach to teaching. Thank you. I might consider ABS for my tees and elbows as they have longer sweeps.
Thanks, and thanks for the info!
I’m new to woodworking and have acquired a 10x20’ shed that is empty now and just for me However I have COPD and it gets very dusty FAST !
Thx’s for your Awesome Videoclip On dust control and will start getting all the parts together during these Cold winter days.
Only question is what about getting shocked from Static Electricity from the hoses, I seen no grounding at all ?
Just wondering !
Thx’s from St Joseph, MO.
Thanks. Regarding static electricity, have a look at this link: www.rockler.com/how-to/exploding-pvc-dust-collection-ductwork/. That's basically my thoughts on the subject. Of course, do whatever you think is best, and I wouldn't fault you for deciding to ground your system. Since you asked the question, I assume you already know there's plenty of TH-cam videos on the subject.
Because you have COPD, you should also get, or make, an air filtration system to remove dust particles from the air. For a really simple and cheap method, see this video (I know it starts with showing an expensive version, but keep watching): th-cam.com/video/BSiDJfj2dFQ/w-d-xo.html. You can just stick with that method (which I think is a good one), or do more TH-cam searches to see the many different solutions people have come up with. I'm not using an air filtration system right now, but as I type this, I'm thinking I should be using one. *sigh* Another thing on the "to do" list. :)
Lastly, make sure you use a dust mask of some kind, at least when you're running tools. There's tons of different types available, and I don't know which is good or bad, so you'll have to research that yourself. But since you'll be wearing it a lot, make sure it's comfortable. The ones I have fog up my glasses, so I tend to not use them much, which is probably bad on my part... :)
Have fun! Keep us updated on what you decide to do!
Jay bates has a video on his air cleaner, which might be a good idea for you to look into as well.
Good idea! John Heisz has one also. th-cam.com/video/Lzyw2cE8Ir0/w-d-xo.html
I looked in the comments for exactly this. Static shock is less of the issue, dust explosion (more of a fireball) is a much bigger problem. For the PVC you can run a copper wire through it. Not hard to ground it. While risk is low, it has and does happen. I am an engineer and have seen fires started by static discharge. Wood dust is highly flammable.
@@Worrsaint Thanks, and I love your TH-cam ID. As a retired software engineer, I'd have to say "ditto". 😄From what I've read, it's not really an issue in shops of the size that can use a 2" dust collection system. But I would never tell someone not to do it. And honestly, even if I don't think it's necessary, I wish I had included it in the video, just to be thorough. Too late now, though.
Nice overview. BTW... I cut pvc with chopsaw all the time. Safe? Not sure but never had an issue and the cuts are very clean.
Thanks. I like the way you stated that - good CYA. ;p
I work with wood, but also own a swimming pool company. When we are building filter systems with new PVC pipe, we always use a chopsaw for those cuts. Very neat and clean. Makes glue-ups perfect every time !!
Nice to know. Thanks!
@@davidfusick9785 tips on how to stabilize the pipe while cutting.? (keep it from rolling) Do I need to make a cradle or jig? ( SAFETY is my #1 priority.)
I only used 4" pvc for my system, so I found that large enough to hold by hand. It didn't roll or even twist. I also was using a brand new blade on my saw, so that helps too.
This is the second video of yours that I watched and again I was totally pleased with the way you present things. Thank you for such clear and inspirational content.
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Thanks! That means a lot! 😄
Great video! Timely for me as I am setting up my shop and dust collection is on the agenda.
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Tip for cutting PVC with a hand saw if you want the cut to be square: Tighten a steel band cable clamp around the PVC tube where you need the cut to be. Then use the clamp as your cut guide. This prevents the blade from wandering.
That's an awesome idea! If you're working with PVC pipes, you probably already have the bands on hand. And if you *really* need help, you could use two, and just saw between them. Thanks! 😄
I was taught in high school you could flip the miter/table saw blade around so it's backwards to use to cut PVC. It's a much less aggressive way to "cut it".
Wow, how interesting! I wonder if anyone here as tried that? Thanks for the info!
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I'm a construction plumber:
Don't use a wood circular blade (table, circ) to cut pvc pipe (sheet goods,ie: plexiglass is fine. just keep blade hight half a tooth passed material).. yes it works, but it often melts the already cut pipe leaving pvc on the blade due to the tooth set, using the saw blade backwards also "melts" the pipe more instead of cutting cleanly( so only use if it's a cheap blade or you plan to clean it)... Miter saws work well as long as the pipe is held stationary. Angle grinder with wood blades are good for cutting pvc, but you get more or less completely covered with pvc chips after the cut.
There are specialized pvc blades in most sizes (4" 7" 10" 12") if you 'must' cut with a circular bladed tool. If you are using a chop/ miter saw, use a abrasive disk meant to cut metal. Cheap and safe, you will have to grind off the melted pcv on the sides of the cut, but that can be easily done on the side of the disk. (What I use if I'm working in 1 area for a long period of time)
I would suggest a low tooth count hack saw blade (12 tpi-18 tpi) or a pvc pipe saw (a good one will cut 2" sch40 pipe in 4 strokes) for small amount of cutting, a reciprocating saw with a 'rough cut' wood blade which has little or no set for large amounts of cutting (what I mainly use when I need mobility). Any decent pipe cutter that's over 1.5" will cost quite a bit... my edc cuts up to 1.25" cost around 15 US, a decent 2 1/2" capacity one costs around 70US (both my local prices, non US).
Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with work site safety laws in every country.. so what is legal here.. may not be where you are. (Mainly the grinding the pvc pipe on the side of the abrasive cut off disc, due to having to lift the blade guard while the machine is running.)
Wow! Great stuff. Thanks! Just a quick note on long comments - for anyone reading this: You can compose comments in a text editor, then copy and paste them into a comment box, and that allows you to break them up into multiple paragraphs.
For the PVC pipe saw, are you talking about something like this? amzn.to/2zxzbZJ
Love the comment about using angle grinders and getting completely covered in PVC chips. I don't think I mentioned it in the video, but I tried this once, and boy are you right! And getting PVC chips off of things is not the easiest thing in the world.
Thanks for the info about how circular blades melt the PVC. I had seen that happen, but didn't really understand why. Now I know!
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The stanley pipe saw has good reviews on amazon. haven't tried it myself.. try finding a japanese one if you can.. their pull saws are amazing... this is the brand I use (sorry even us plumbers don't know the actual name lol.. we just call it the 'Japanese Pipe Saw" or just "pipe saw", everyone in the trade uses them more or less exclusively)..
www.carbatec.com.au/handtools-and-handplanes/japanese-saws/japanese-utility-saws/utility-pullsaw-h-300-blade-no-z-8032
But no where near that expensive (listed as 30USD), but as I live in East Asia, that could be a major factor.. the saws are roughly 8.50USD and blades are about 6USD
Size wise they are about 8 inches of blade and about 1.5 inches high.. they come in rectangular and pointed versions.. the pointed is easier to use (less drag)
Thanks for the info on shift+enter - it works on my Mac also. I should have thought of that. Love the fact you guys call it the "Japanese Pipe Saw". It just makes me laugh!
I very much appreciate the quality of your video and the information you shared. Your ability to connect the video with very informative explanations is outstanding.
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Wow, just wow! Thank you so much for being a great instructor and so knowledgeable. You are definitely my go to guy when I need to learn something new. I wish I could subscribe a million times! Thanks
Thanks, and that's quite a compliment! Nobody's 100% right, so if anything I say sounds "ify", let me know. 😄And I wish you could subscribe a million times too. 😛
The only tip I have for using PVCu pipe for dust extraction is to wind a copper wire in a wide spiral along it's length and earth it.
Wood dust traveling at speed along PVCu can build up a lot of static and will possibly give you quite a belt.
Can you tell that's experience talking? #¬)
Thanks for the comment. I'll have to do a video about that, because nobody likes the "Office Space" effect. th-cam.com/video/zsTDnnh7T6A/w-d-xo.html. 😄
inside or outside the PVC?
@@fyrefyter26 I'm not sure. I'm gonna have to do some research. But I'm sure there's other TH-cam videos on the subject.
@@fyrefyter26 : I've only ever got a belt from the outside :¬) but some people advocate earthed metal screws through the pipe to act as 'lightning rods'. As long as the static on the outside of the pipe is earthed, I can't see that earthing inside the pipe will make much difference. The static probably won't kill you but earthing does prevent the pain.
@@farrier2708 Preventing pain is always a good thing. 😄
Great video!
But how in the heck do you not have a miter saw in your woodshop?! 😛
Thanks and LOL. Main reason? No room. I have to pick and choose what tools I can have. Although I'm hoping to create some flip-top cabinets, at some point, so I might have room then.
Right?Q! That's what I thought. HUH??!!! LoL
Believe it or not, you can get by without a miter saw just fine. For instance Matthias Wandel doesn't use one. Although if I actually did cut a lot of miters, then I'd probably miss having one.
Nicely Done Great Job 👍 The Miter Box Cuts Very Smooth For PVC
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First video that explained dust collection set up very well! I’ll use this in my shop
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Your comment that 45s and wyes only improve the efficiency to a small degree is incorrect. Ninety degree bends in a dust collection system pretty much cuts the efficiency in half and the more you have between the machine and the blower reduce it exponentially more. Any bend in a dust system should have a radius of 1 1/2 times the diameter of the pipe at the center line of the bend. Example: a friend had a tee just off his blower and the flow was negligible. He replaced it with a wye and two 45's and the flow increased more than ten-fold. It made the difference between working and not working. Likewise, flex hose should be kept to a minimum due to the increased friction loss in the flex hose over pipe. Many people get super carried away with flex because it's easy to install.
There's a tremendous difference between how blower-based collectors work vs. shop-vac-based collectors. One relies on air volume, the other on air speed (or something like that). I don't know the technical details, but they really are different, and so are the effects of 45-vs-90 degree joints. I'm not saying they have no effect, but the difference is much less than you might think, with shop-vac-based systems. See my test results: th-cam.com/video/DzuPo802mV8/w-d-xo.html.
@@TheNewbieWoodworker "Or something like that". :) I've spent my whole adult life moving liquids and gases and friction loss is friction loss. Whether it be due to actual friction from interaction with the wall of the conductor or turbulence due to interruptions in the stream from bends or fittings, it's still friction loss. In truth, the higher the speed involved, the greater the percentage loss. Turbulence due to tight bends rivals throttling a system by using piping that is too small for the greatest power thief in home systems. When you're dealing with a little shop vac you need everything you can get. Best to do everything you can to help it do it's job rather than "that's good enough".
@@edpretty7348 No, actually, "good enough" really is good enough. But I understand what you're saying.
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I cut pipes with my miter
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@@TheNewbieWoodworker it works really good on abs and pvc high tooth count cut slow
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I also cut them with my drop saw. I haven’t had a problem but after your experience maybe I need to be more careful.
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Great info. I am looking to set up a basic dust extractor for my new workshop - exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
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Thank you for a great, well planned, dust collection video. I have learned a lot. I will use your suggestions as I can.
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This video should be renamed, "How I give Rockler all my money"!
At the time I made this video, that was probably true!
also it encourage ppl to watch other videos... so i dont see the problem in recomend the brand u use
@@EmmanuelLorenzo That's OK, those kinds of comments go with the territory. Lots of people are suspicious of creators being "shills" for big companies. 😏
@@TheNewbieWoodworker Sorry I was just poking fun, didn't mean nothing by it.
@@simoncameron4355 I know - sorry if I didn't make that clear. I was just agreeing with you. 😄
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this it answered so many of my questions! I love your videos very informative and you get right to the point!
Thanks, glad I could help! Personally, I don't like videos that take forever to get to the point. Most of the time, anyway.
very well done. straight to the point. encouraged me to set up my dust collection system
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This is an excellent video. A lot of effort went into it and it covers everything. Best one about dust collection systems for the beginner on youtube.
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Excellent, well made overview with a ton of very useful information. Thank you for doing this.
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Great vid!! Surprisingly detailed with a really clever set of solutions! Gave me a new direction for when I do my setup. It was really good seeing you talk through each bit, and then do the test run. Super helpful! And I've watched a lot of other vids, this one is right up there as one of my faves. Thanks!
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Great video, helped me plan out dust collection in my garage. Thanks for putting it together.
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This is the video I was looking for all this time!! Thank you very much 🙏🙏
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This video helped me to get my dust collection system set up. Keep them coming.
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I really appreciate your honest and impartial advice. A great video and yet another subscriber! 👍🏼
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Hello, I just wanna thank you for sharing your experience in such simple / straight forward / efficient way. I am subscribing right away !
Best regards from Paris / Mike
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Great video for a workshop newbie like me! I look forward in following you for more helpful videos.
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i appreciate your dust collection introduction! I learned a lot. I usually cut PVC with a saws-all or miter saw
Thanks, and I'm glad I helped! Thanks for the info about how you cut PV, too. 😄
Great presentation .I will be using these in my shop. I have quite a dust problem and need to fix it. THANKS!
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