America’s FIRST ThyssenKrupp Twin Elevator - Tech Square CODA Building - Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2024
- These are the first ThyssenKrupp Twin Elevators in North America, and they do use the AGILE system (not DSC as advertised as of 2019). Apparently this is also one of the first videos featuring the new TK logo.
These are absolutely beautiful elevators!
This also is a few firsts for me when it comes to elevators:
*First DESTINATION DISPATCH elevator (I've seen the system at Swissotel in Chicago, but I didn't ride it)
*First ThyssenKrupp Twin Elevator
*First ThyssenKrupp Elevator with Atoll Fixtures
Building Tours:
coda.gatech.edu/coda-building...
ATTENTION: there is NO negativity in this video! ALL internal statements were supposed to be for humor, not disrespect.
BIG Thank You to the staff and engineers at CODA for arranging this tour!
MAJOR Kudos to ThyssenKrupp! This is an AWESOME elevator! Hope to see more installations in the future. We are PATIENTLY waiting for MULTI...
INFORMATION: This place is RESTRICTED. Do not attempt to access this location (floors above 2) without proper clearance. My parents knew individuals at GTRI, which is how the tour was arranged. Also, management seems to be offering limited tours for those interested. Please visit coda.gatech.edu/coda-building...
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
00:34 TWIN with AGILE Traction Main Elevators
05:52 Synergy MRL Parking Elevators
07:19 Outro
There's a non-zero chance the parking elevators may have been Evolution 200 (highly unlikely, albeit possible), but I have yet to confirm this (more info coming soon!!).
Elevator Information:
Manufacturer: TK Elevator
External Fixtures: AGILE Destination Dispatch Display (Main), MAD BS / Vandal Resistant (Parking)
Internal Fixtures: MAD Atoll (Main), MAD BS / Vandal Resistant (Parking)
Model: Twin (Main), Synergy?? (Parking)
Operating Motor: Traction
Serves Floors 1-21 (Main), P5-2 (Parking)
Traffic Management: Floors 13-21 access on Floor 2, upper car. System uses destination dispatch.
GA State ID: E271665 [Car P3 Upper]
E.O.14S 2019!!
I DO NOT OWN THE MUSIC IN THE VIDEO!
"Hero's Theme" by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (creativecommons.org/licenses/...)
Source: www.twinmusicom.org/song/280/h...
Artist: www.twinmusicom.org - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
How does this differ from having double-deck elevators? Are there pros and cons of twin elevators?
That is a really good question! It is important to note the differences between the two.
On a double deck elevator, you have two elevator cabins *structurally* attached to each other. Effectively, you have one single elevator with two cabs, all driven by one, single rope system. Each of these two cabs always serve the floors right next to each other, often separating between odd and even floors. Sometimes, these two cars may have a "scissor mechanism" (often seen in warehouse shelf lifts) that adjust if the two adjacent floor heights change through the building. Double-deck elevators work very well as express elevators serving a "skylobby" floor, seen in many tall skyscrapers. This has the benefit of efficient use of building space to increase local capacity, but still requires some banks to be split into high-rise and low-rise. You'd still have 6 elevators going to the same floors, but with twice the room. Think as if they made an elevator bigger, just instead of a bigger cab, they attached another cab to it. Additionally, this system can use both standard elevator buttons and controls, or it could use "destination dispatch" as seen in this video.
On a twin elevator (currently only produced by TKE), there is a bit more flexibility. Here, you have two *independent* elevators operating in the same shaft. One elevator could be on floor 1, and the other car could be on floor 15 at the same time. This allows effectively 11 elevator cars in the shaft of 6 (one car, by design cannot be a twin for safety purposes). Instead of making a single elevator bigger, you effectively overlapped two elevators that could serve different floors. In this example, the lower cars are programmed to prioritize calls to lower floors, and the upper car is programmed to prioritize calls to upper floors. Low-rise and high-rise calls also use a different floor despite being on the same bank. This is a very efficient system, but is FAR more costly to a building owner than a double-deck. Additionally, destination dispatch MUST be used for both efficient operation and safety, so that the two cars don't crash into each other (that'd be bad!)! Another major downside comes with maintenance. If one elevator is out of service, it has the potential to take _two_ elevators out of service.
Engineers must make careful decisions on the costs and benefits that each system has.
These systems could theoretically be used interchangeably, especially in tall buildings.
Here's some links to provide more information:
DOUBLE DECK: www.otis.com/en/us/products-services/products/skyrise
TWIN: www.tkelevator.com/us-en/products/elevators/all-elevators/twin/
Hope this helps!
_As of 4/16/2022 Elevators of 14S is not affiliated with any company or organization promoting or demoting these products. I am simply placing this comment for informational purposes_
@@elevatorsof14s Woww!!!!! Great to know!! How are elevators smart enough to either not get too close to one another and not collide in the same shaft?
@@StephenPhillips This is a computerized safety system, believe it or not! First of all, the destination dispatch system is designed to not route elevator cars that would result in a collision. Second, if this were to somehow glitch, two means of floor positioning are used (tape and barcode). This floor-positioning data is sent to the computer, and if the cars get too close, it will shut the elevator's motors off and stop the cars... this is supposed to be EXCEEDINGLY rare, and I'm not aware of any major reports of this happening (it might have idk...)
I could possibly have some of this information mistaken, but based on my information on TK twin, this is what they use. ✅
Oh wait no way that's so dope! I'm actually a current GT student and skyscraper/elevator aficionado myself (also have ridden these elevators a few times for some study sessions), didn't realize these are the first twin ThyssenKrupp elevators!! I'll have to record a video of myself going up the top floors at some point, there's a nice sky lobby at the top where some GT students will study sometimes, really pretty views!
Glad to hear! These elevators are amazing 🤩
Nice👍
Next time I come to Atlanta, I have to stop here!!!
These things are SUPER COOL!! Wait until you see the COLLABORATIVE CORE. I was INITIALLY going to return here about a month ago, but THAT didn't happen...
ALSO, make sure you contact CODA ahead of time to get access, because as I know of, these things are still locked-off from the lobby up.
Awesome lifts
Amazing find!
This is freakin' awesome. Congrats on filming these first!!!
why does filming first matter so much
Cause these are the first ever twin lifts in North America
tkefan29 It’s not just with these though..... I filmed these second, so what? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@ElevatingChicago I'm still shocked that *DIESELDUCY* hasn't said anything about these yet (to my knowledge, at least).
@@tkefan29 Evolution 200, anyone? Apparently Atlanta has *25* installs... Still one yet to be found (unless another one of the 3 elevators I didn't film here was E200- Service, Collective, and Auxiliary)
I could probably find my way into here lol. But if I do come to Atlanta I want to see these.
You can walk straight into the building, but every floor above 2 is locked. If you call it from 1-2 or 2-1, it will probably give you Car P5, which is not a twin.
I work for tke
Can't believe Andrew missed it!! That's a TOTAL RIP!! I'm coming here next Wednesday
The Double-Decker MARTA elevator he filmed was literally SIX BLOCKS from this place. If you are coming to CODA, make sure you get permission or a tour, as these things are still locked-off (as I know of, at least)...
Though I did reference it to him in a livestream, I think he didn't see the chat-comment...
N O W A Y !
Edit: DieselDucy needs to see this
I actually told Andrew about it in a livestream, but the comment got lost quickly... 😴
Nice find! Those are beautiful elevators!
These are plain EPIC!!
what is coda?
A giant office and shopping complex in Technology Square (referred to as "mixed-use development"). Offices in the 22-story tower serve Georgia Tech and other tenants.
Unfortunately, the general public is not permitted to access the office building above floor 2.
Oh I’m coming here, I am *so* coming here.
Awesome
These are absolutely perfect, I need to see these for my self, and I just happen to be coming to Atlanta next month.
PERFECT! Thank you so much! This will be really helpful
I so wanted to film these, but
A) it wasn't open when I was there
B) I didn't know it was restricted
When were you in Atlanta?
I did see your ATL videos, there BTW...
Late February. Only elevators I filmed there were the Aloft hotel, and Walgreens.
@@tkefan29 Yep, you literally just missed the first day of operation of these elevators. They went into operation on 2/28.
These elevators are AWESOME!! Hopefully, we get some more TWIN installs around the US...
50 Hudson Yards in NYC is getting *FORTY* TK TWiNs
@@elevatorsof14s 80 THYSSENKRUPPS?
@@PhuongTran-if9vh As I read, 80 cabs, 40 shafts... This is subject to change, but I don't know. Many tall buildings have around this same number of elevators.
I finally got to see these for my self today, I can’t thank you enough! So glad I got permission to see these, thanks for the information on this place! It helped out a lot.
YOU'RE GETTING A SHOUTOUT ON THE NEXT PRE-TH-cam SPECIAL!!!! 😀😀
Thanks! It’s much appreciated! 😄
@@ElevatingChicago You're welcome!!
INFORMATION: A ThyssenKrupp *_MULTI_* might be coming to New York City! I believe that a building called "The Big Bend" will feature this system as an article I found says "the elevator that can travel in curves, horizontally, and in continuous loops." ARTICLE (warning: many, many ads): www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/big-bend-new-york-manhattan-skyscraper-architecture-oiio-billionaires-row-a7649416.html
NOTE: Unless a TK MULTI can travel in a CURVED direction, I might have discovered a new type of elevator from the elevator community!!
ALSO, for those of you who are not aware, CAR P5 is *NOT* a TWiN...
MULTI probably cab travel in curves, but it may not be advertised. I don't think they could be anything else.
Ik in a TWIN bank, there has to be at least 1 or 2 that aren't TWIN.
Ali ahmad
I got only one complaint for this elevator installation... Why did they go with the generic red LED floor indicator instead of a more high-tech modern LCD indicator or screen? Also I guess they no longer do blue for their indicator colors anyone and Signa4 (AKA new Arroua) is no longer made.
Signa4 is still made, but it comes with Atoll Fixtures rather than the older buttons.
I have seen blue once before, but I think it has to be a Custom Install...
😐 Instant no if the elevator is making noise for each floor
They have since gotten rid of the beep on these elevators. Though I kind of like the beep, it can get _annoying_ after 21 floors! 🤐😫
@@elevatorsof14s Exactly! If it were an apartment like mine i'd probably be driven crazy because I live on floor 25!
Datraif
Okay maybe at least the cab looks nice (and almost European looking)! As for the more plain generic LED floor counter/indicator, I'm not a fan of! They should have at least did something better for it like make it blue LEDs instead of red. Also the TWIN elevators don't even have an voice telling you which floor your on like the parking garage elevators around the end of the video have!
If you listen closely, they only talk on the inside in handicapped mode.
Now that I think of it, blue would have matched the building a bit better. 👍