3 Reasons to Buy a Sequoia instead of a Land Cruiser | Budget Overlanding | Best Full Size SUV
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- It was incredibly difficult for us to choose between these two vehicles. The 100 series and the 1st gen are both remarkably similar vehicles that can both serve as excellent overlanding vehicles. Both of these are excellent budget overland vehicles and also represent the best and most capable full size suv 's. But for us, there ended up being 3 reasons to buy a sequoia instead of a land cruiser. Make sure to subscribe for more sequoia overlanding content.
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Before you comment something nasty (I’m looking at you land cruiser die hard fans) make sure you actually watch the whole video. I did not say the land cruiser is inferior to the sequoia. That’s simply not true. I’m just listing the 3 reasons why the sequoia was a better choice for us. The sequoia is about 90% as capable and reliable as the land cruiser and is literally half the price. Things likes global support just do not matter to us given that we drive completely in the United States. If you are a land cruiser die hard, I’m with you. I think land cruisers are awesome and if I could afford one, I would certainly have one. The price point of the sequoia allowed us to get into overlanding at a price we could afford. If we waited till we could afford a land cruiser, we’d have to wait years before being able to go explore our beautiful country.
Miss this channel, last time you uploaded it would still be a few months till I purchased my own Sequoia, that this channel single handedly made me choose that platform, now I have my own and done a lot of modifications and taken it on many trails with no issues at all that people said I couldn't do!
Reason number 1, the sequoia is cheaper than a land cruiser .... nuff say.
Yuuup. Dramatically cheaper. Sequoias are the current steal on the used off road SUV market.
That's the only reason.. there's really nothing the sequoia has over the land cruiser.
Best vehicles are the one that you can afford and best suited for your need.
Comparing the sequoia to the LC aren’t a good comparison, the LC are full loaded with luxury amenities that Toyota has to offer at the time with all of the off-roading features of a 4Runner TRD pro. Once you drive an LC, it will hard to go back to a sequoia
@@bossmani594 right exactly Soo the title should've been, best overland vehicles to own with a $$ budget.
I've had the 80 series and actually still have my 80 series for rock crawling. I also have 100 series and just sold my 2002 one and also have a 2002 Sequoia Limited. The 100 series and Seq. are very similar in driving feel , the 4wd system very similar , the ride quality though the Seq. is much plusher ride even with lift kits on either vehicle the seq. has a better ride, I'm sure due to a little more weight. The room for two adults overlanding is what made me decide to keep the Seq. and sell my 100 series. I needed room for 2 adults on the go in remote places in some of the roughest trails to be able to sleep in the back without being cramped. The 100 series just doesn't have the room in the back to be able to lay stretched out. Gas mileage is a wash and price is all over the place. I paid about the same price for both my 100 series and my Seq. Both were great mileage 1 owner vehicles. To me the only difference I can see negative on the Seq over the 100 series was my break over angle (little longer wheelbase) and the over hang in the rear on ledges. Other then that the Seq was to me the better vehicle. One other thing I liked about the Seq. is you can run different style lockers on the Seq. since its not full time AWD like the 100 series. With the 100 series I was limited to running ARB front an rear lockers like my 80 series also has. In the Seq. I can run one ARB or Electronic style locker with conventional locker up front since you can swap to 2wd in the Seq. Small things but they made my decision for me.
Owner of a 2006 toyota sequoia limited 4wd with air suspension and captain chairs rear entertainment dvd center..loving the channel and information. Original owner had the window sticker it cost him 59k brand new in 2006 bought it off him 10k with 164k ..love my sequoia and love the long trips to Utah,San Francisco and anything that's more than an hour drive..
I love our two Sequoia’s (‘03 and ‘02). On my ‘03 (170K miles), I’ve had a major overhaul during the last 10 years…and it’s difficult for me to share this publicly, but…having to replace that battery nearly killed me😎
sorry for your loss.
hopefully your pockets have recovered. sorry you had to experience that travesty LOL
@@jamalymall - Lol
@@skippyloobom - Lol. Thank you
Once upon a time I owned a 95 LandCruiser, which I dearly miss (allowed my two oldest girls to drive it as their first car, man the disc brake rotors I went through!). Over a year ago our in-laws gifted us their 07 Sequoia LTD, w/ 120k miles...very well maintained. SO much roomier than the LC ...but very capable and super quiet. I’ll never let it go!!
Also note that the Land Cruiser is a Full time 4X4 so you can't put it in 4x2. To me the Sequoia feels peppier and I know it gets 2-3 miles better mpg. This means instead of 11-13, it'll get 13-16 mpg plus the Sequoia holds 1 gallon more gas in the tank.. That's a big difference especially when considering range per tank.
As an 07 LX owner I agree to all your reasons. I was so close to pulling a trigger on Sequoia but ended with an LX. Another advantage with Sequoia is that You are dodging the expensive AHC Conversion, possible Break booster rebuild maintanence around 200 to 250k.
Great video
Some good points to consider
Recently picked up a 03 Sequoia and love it! The characteristic of the Sequoia drives very similar to my brother’s LX470
Good summary. I bought my 2004 Sequoia 4WD last August. 150,000 miles, one owner, in great condition for $4,000. Love it, solid, great to drive, roomy. As you say parts are cheap. Bulletproof engine and transmission. Great in the recent snow we had, was blocked in at a truck stop at 2am due to trucks being stuck on the entry/exit hill. I put it in 4WD and it went through a deep snow filled deep ditch at the side of the road and powered in and out of it in no time, didn't even have to shift to low or lock the hubs, awesome vehicle and as you say they are creeping up in value. We also have a 2019 Forester and I reckon our Sequoia will outlast it and then some!
Wow, great deal! I just got a 230K ‘04 for 6K and I thought that was a steal lol
@@world_of_manny_malibu it was a good deal. Got it just before the prices started to skyrocket!
I just bought a 2004 with 230k for $4,800. One owner. I’m very happy!
The Sequoia is a capable overlanding platform. Cool channel. You guys are bringing the great content. Someone needs to give you your own TV show. New subscriber here !
I really wanted a Lexus LX470 for the comfort and luxury appeal but my finances weren’t there. My 06 Sequoia is great. Lumbar in front seats is rough but add an inflatable pillow and you’ve got perfection.
I recently bought a 2nd gen Sequoia. The size/cargo capability was the only reason why I didn't go with a LC.
Summary
1. Sequoia cost less to maintain.
2. Sequoia is bigger.
3. Sequoia price is 50% lower.
Finally Sequoia is the most underrated SUV.
I always wanted a Land Cruiser and almost bought one a few years ago.About 6 years ago we got our Sequoia and after owning it I love it.Sequoia's are a hidden gem and well worth the money for general outdoor people.I do almost all my repair work and maintenance on all my vehicles and the Sequoia is well built machine.We have a 2022 Lexus GX460 on order hope to drive it 20 plus years.
The 2022 Lexus still has the reliable engine in it, not the smaller turbo charged engines that won’t last as long. So your Lexus should last you forever.
Got a 2006 4wd Sequoia w/ 214k miles that was well maintained in July 2019 for $6k... feel like I snuck in at just the right time! My favorite part - sleeping fully straight inside with the 2nd row flipped up and 3rd row removed!
Hey Eric, I just bought a 05 limited with 233k. Just replaced the timing belt, serpentine belt, and water pump. Any other suggestions for a sequoia with high mileage?
@@7MACbitches awesome hope you’ve been enjoying it! I would check out some other videos that Dillon has put out. His is high mileage too and he talks about it in some (I forget the exact one but maybe he can chime in). I’d say to look at the ball joints and do a differential service!
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@@ericsnyder1859 Thanks Eric, I appreciate it! Happy I joined the Sequoia club 😎
That is exactly why I want a Sequoia. Im 6' and I much prefer sleeping inside steel and glass vs fabric. Weatherproof and HVAC if needed! I rather put gear on the roof
i have a 2006 4x4 with 262k miles. best vehicle i've EVER owned. not to mention that engine/trans is legendary and the styling is perfect IMO. especially for Overlanding. there's not many old school SUV's left that's still on a truck chassis. those 1st Gen Sequoia's are awesome!
What years are the first generation???
@@mercedesbenzs600bash 2001 to 2007
@@campampates Thanks...
Good and fair points. Well done.
Nice sequoia. Keep.up the good videos
I was in the same boat as the guy in the video...went for the Sequoia as well...
Pros for me:
1. Cloth seat option in the SR5 trim.
2. Same V8 as the LC
3. Lower Insurance rate
4. More affordable overall
5. Same reliability as a LC
6. 4WD option if you must have it, which most americans WILL NOT need it.
7. Much lower price of entry; bought mine with 148k miles for $3400
Cons for me:
1. It's not a LC, but whatever it's 90% there.
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. Yes, the Sequoias have become much more expensive, but I don't think we can blame you, lol. Everyone's just looking at vehicles they can afford to buy - even if they're gas guzzlers right now - supply and demand. Not your fault 🙂
Awesome video
Love my 2nd gen sequoia, but also had 99 land cruiser that I just sold still going strong at 300000. Bottom line can’t go wrong with Toyota!!!
Truth
We love our 02 sequoia. It's very capable.
100, 100%. But that 40% bigger volume is tempting. That's a Lot! & $ difference.
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I just signed up. I purchased a 2000 Land Cruiser in Oct 2020 (it’s not my daily). I have a friend who has a 2003 Sequoia and drives it like he drives his ‘08 M3, so I know they are able to take abuse.
In Canada they only sale 800 truck a year ... got second generation and I love it !!! Working hard to get a Gobi rooftop rack !!!
I bought my 05 limited after exchanging a few messages with you and watching your channel! I have 224k on the clock and it drives like a dream! I’m very happy with my purchase! The only headache I’ve ran into was the rear hatch 🤦🏾♂️!
Haha somehow we've not had the infamous rear hatch issue but I'm sure it'll happen soon. Glad we could help!
Weld a brace across the flimsy actuator and it will be much more robust.
Proud owner of a 2006 sequoia limited 4x4. I still have original MSRP showing $45,310 including side curtain airbags with kill switch! Paid $7200 with 148k miles on the clock. Previous owner got taken to the moon on brakes, tires, battery, spark plugs, transmission flush at 90k, serpentine belt, timing belt, pulleys, water pump.... couldn't be more happy. My biggest issue has been the rear window it doesn't want to roll down. Wiper works, defroster works, window doesn't.. Great video! Always fun to share
@@chipchaunamom2665 chip I appreciate the heads up. Doing this is what actually fixed my rear wiper and rear defroster! At this point I'm guessing the window is broken due to the motor. Every time I try and lower the window the other 2 functions stop working.
I fixed mine a couple years ago by taking the rear window motor, disassemble, clean, lubed, and reinstalled. Haven't had any issues since.
4th reason: center console gear shift vs column. I l hugely prefer the Sequoias column shift design over the center console shift design as it opens up so much useable room for accessories and mounting.
I got incredibly lucky with my 1st Gen Sequoia. I got it for $2500 at auction with 175k miles with zero issues.
I completely agree!
@@gaandrews55 bargain!
I found an 05' 4wd Limited with only 202k miles on it for $5,400. It's got the bench seat in the back (which I prefer for overlanding/hauling) and even the dvd player works. As someone who it going to have this as their first 'real car' (my actual first car is a 96' f150 but I gave that to my dad) I can totally see it lasting me for next ten years or so.
I want a land cruiser or 4Runner or sequoia. I think the sequoia makes the most sense after watching this. Thanks!
I WIL SHARE THIS VIDEO AROUND. good luck man i hope you get 70k your soft goal and burst that.
Sincerely Mr Long.
I've been wanting to pickup a sequoia. Just the used ones in socal are still pricey. been rocking my 01 nissan pathfinder for the mean while. great video of all
R51 pathfinders are solid rigs. Keep driving that thing as long as you can!
@@TheFraziers he's right great pathfinder, maintain it, get some great off road tires for it, amd enjoy it
Having had both sequoia and land cruiser, you do have valid point here. Both are great, very good and in my opinion, miles ahead of the domestic offerings. For me, the LC is more comfortable (current LC is a 200) and maintaining it is not a huge deal as I do it all myself. If the sequoia was my only option, I would not hesitate to buy one. I do wish the second-gen sequoia would have kept the solid rear axle. The aftermarket is starting to catch up with the second-gen though so maybe in the future they will be more common place in the overland community.
Thanks commenting!
Because the 2nd generation does not have a solid rear axle does that make the 2nd generation Sequoia less reliable and durable than the first generation???
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This video popped up in my feed this morning- thought you were back to making videos. Sad that it is just TH-cam playing games- hope everything is going well for you.
Just picked up a 02 Sequoia 134k SR5 $4,700 🇺🇸
let's be honest, Land Cruisers are the pinnacle. HOWEVER depending on your real, actual use of a vehicle, buying the LC would not be worth the money AND it may be the wrong vehicle. I travel down to Mexico, where the Tacoma is commonplace (they're made in Baja) So, having a Tacoma would make sense if it ever breaks down (unlikely, but you never know). How much do you off road? how much do you tow? all are factors and the right vehicle for one person will be very different from the next person. I'm so very thankful that we have so many options and that we can easily move from one veh to the next if it doesn't work out.
That’s a great way of putting it! Thanks for watching!
You're right on. People don't understand how expensive it is to run and upkeep a 100 series. Being Toyotas flagship, you can't use aftermarket Rock auto parts, and the OEM prices are arm and leg. Also being a 15-23 year old vehicle, 100s all need an minor to major overhaul. People think that Toyota 100 series being the most reliable rig means that nothing wears out. They're dead wrong. Most 100s are worn to hell and need far more expensive and refurbish over a equivalent priced newer Sequoia/4Runner/Tundra/Tahoe/Jeep. Unfortunately, I was brought up as a die hard Land Cruiser fan, it runs in the family, but 95% of the time, the Tundra and Sequoia do it just as well, if not better suited.
I own an 06 Sequoia Limited, also have a 62 series both i absolutely love . I also have driven to great length 70,75,79,100,200 series overseas in some of the sketchiest areas. (Thanks uncle sam for that opportunity) My sequoia i enjoy and feel is probably 85-87.5% as capable in stock condition if you were to compare to a stock 100 series.
85% as capable and often 50% the price. That’s a trade off I’m willing to make...but make no mistake. Land cruisers are the ultimate adventure vehicle.
I watched the video and honestly cant remember the 3 things. Maybe at the end a quick review would be great. Keep up the cool sequioa content
Very logical reasons for your decision. After watching your video I was looking for sequoia s also. Land Cruisers were way too expensive . I just happened to find the GX470 in great shape and only about 60% of the cost of a Cruiser. I think the Sequoia and Xs are the way to go also. Unless you have money to burn.
The gx470 is a landcruiser Toyota put its look at your Lexus Manuel it states Toyota Corp welcomes your purchase of your Lexus motor vehicle. The irony is Lexus IS Toyota’s luxury division but there trucks are less expensive than Toyota’s Particulary the landcruiser who’s is best suv you can purchase. It’s only competition is the Defender as a four wheel off road vehicle. Sequoia will not beat a landcruiser in any aspect of off road trails. The sequoia is a soccer moms car it is what it is. Nothing more nothing less. Landcruiser has a history behind it. Toyota despite its cheaper price point can’t move sequoia like they do landcruiser. Probably for a very good reason. Land cruiser has been around since the willys jeep sequoia not going to make the next decade.
@@blackwidowsm technically the GXs are fancy 4 runners, just like the prados no matter what logo is on the back.
Made in Japan is more reliable, they’re better made in japan. I have a 5th gen 4Runner and a 2nd gen Tacoma, the buttons and controls are a lot tighter and responsive in the Japanese made 4Runner. The buttons in the Tacoma are loose and not as responsive. The build quality is a lot better in the Japanese 4Runner.
371,000 miles on my 2001 Sequoia original engine and transmission, just remember to get those ball joints changed around 225,000 miles so your front wheel won't pop off.
371,000 miles,original engine and transmission,so very impressive,probably no major issues either huh????
@@mercedesbenzs600bash Nope none as of yet .
Thanks for sharing. Interesting you didn’t mention the 4Runner since it’s got about the same cargo capacity as the land cruiser. I’d be interested in seeing a video why you weren’t considering a 4Runner... just curious! Keep up the Toyota over landing videos. New subscriber!
Crazy you mention it! That exact video topic is on our list of videos to produce in the next month! Stay tuned
When I was looking for my 3rd gen 4runner I considered the sequoia because of demand for the 4x4 4runner. Although the though of smaller on the trails was better I think the Sequoia would have been a better choice for space when we go camping. Don't get me wrong I love my 3rd gen but towing capacity and cargo space is better with the Sequoia .
We rarely find ourselves on tight technical trails so we’re very happy with the large space and towing abilities. Thanks for watching!
Same. I got a 3rd Gen 4Runner & find myself wishing I'd gotten a much bigger vehicle.
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Looked at a few LX470s and Landcruisers, most were beat to shit or priced to the moon. Best looking one was an LX470 with immaculate interior, but rust on the frame and spreading in the door jambs, $14k, no way.
Just got an 03 Sequoia Limited for $750! 225k miles, rust free, super clean and solid maintenance record. Was a doctors ‘beater’ truck and he just wanted it gone, wasn’t even interested in getting it detailed to sell for a lot more.
Hey can you fit a -12 offset wheel with stock suspension without any issues?
I always love a video that goes straight to the point but this is not it. Half way and haven't started naming the three reasons?
I didn't realize it til now but I have an 01 tree with 181,000 that I got for 4500. Zero rust, maintenance record and no major dents(po didn't mention rear window/hatch but $17 steel handle and actually plugging the tailgate harness back in while doing the handle solved that)
Everything aside: I can't help but feel like I'm missing out not having the LC100, though I don't need it truly....
I've driven the 200 series, almost bought one but I ended up with a 2013 Sequoia limited. Both have the same beautiful 5.7 v8, both are very capable SUVs, both consume insane amounts of fuel. Ain't none of these trucks cheap like a Yukon but I would say I am happier with the Sequoia mainly because of rear seat room. For some reason Toyota made the 3rd row flip up instead of folding down and we like to camp thus that rear seat was the deal breaker for us plus there's a lot more room in the 2nd row. It's very noticeable. Our situation didn't come with a huge price difference because the 200 series had a 160k and the Sequoia had 114k thus both had a similar price tag.. (expensive). I did like the 200 series styling a tad bit better but both vehicles felt very well built. I would venture to say both will last an incredibly long time as long as maintenance is done regularly. I really like the look of the 200 series interior slighly better our Sequoia has zero wood trim shockingly. A lot of silver, grey and black. It really feels more industrial over the 200 series. Not remotely as luxurious but we're not a bunch of city slickers looking for a weekend get away, we're fairly happy with the Sequoia's more pedestrian interior. I just wish it had some fake wood. Personal preference, of course. I think the extra luxury features actually get in the way, there's more to go wrong on the 200 series. We got things like heated leather seats, 3 zone automatic temperature control. Plenty there but very little to go bust while on the trails... I love our choice. Would I have made the 200 series work for us? Probably. Just the Sequoia fit the bill a little easier. I do love both vehicles.
I was going to get a gx 470 but knowing lexus requires premium gas i decided to get a seqouia 06 limited with just regular gas
I just bought a 2005 for $7k CAD. I probably overpaid a bit but they took care of it well and they’re super-rare.
I do need to rust treat the frame which will be a ton of work. Oh well, coffee break over and time to get at it lol.
I’m just debating to myself whether to lift it before I commit to a set of tires.
There are pro's and cons to all rigs including toyota's. The lack of a more fuel efficient option makes it harder to go further as well as makes it more expensive to travel.
I own a 2003 Toyota LC bought it for 14,500 with 123k. 1.5 years ago now it’s got 165k. Have done nothing other then change oil and put on bigger tires. It’s the best work horse and it doesn’t break. The Sequoia will never hold the value like the LC. I can keep putting on miles yet my value is still there. The Sequoia is weak in so many ways comparing it to the LC. Suspension, frame, off-road ability the 4 wheel drive system plus it’s designed for 25 years. The Sequoia is basically a Tundra that can fit 8. The LC and Sequoia are nothing the same. Own one and you’d understand.
I never said that there were no advantages for the land cruiser, in fact I’d definitely agree that it’s a vastly superior product. It easily the most overbuilt vehicle of our time.... but for us the sequoia was the better choice. It gave us everything we wanted in an adventure vehicle and was the right price. If we had waited for a time in our life where we could afford a land cruiser, we might never have gotten into this sort of hobby.
You paid 14,500 for your land cruiser and we paid 4,500 for our sequoia. We can buy a lot of gas for adventures with our $10,000 in savings 😊
Wowwwwwwwww I've never heard anyone call the Sequoia weak,so what makes it so much weaker than a LC???
Someone who owns a 70 series could say the same thing about your 100 series, bigger front diff, lock out hubs, diesel engine, no crappy awd , abs etc.
@@mercedesbenzs600bash .. That's the last you will hear from him because they can never tell you what makes the LC better!! They are just snobs!!! What more can you need?! The Seq has a truck frame, rear solid axle, a V8! A lot of interior room! Parts available anywhere!! Its like a Glock of trucks!!
@@randolphcirilo4800 Very true,people like him you don't even argue with,just say,ok,smh...
hey bro, great video. I have an 01 sequoia. do you have any tutorial links for the pinch welds rubbing on 285/70/17?
No I don’t. I’d just take an angle grinder to it if it was me
Hammer them flat
Do u have any lift at all? Could you run a wheel spacer?
for 10k give or take you can get an 05/06/07 sequoia in decent shape.
I ended up with a LC100. Is it an overbuilt swiss watch with 274k still smooth as ice as it did off the showroom floor in 2000? Yes. Did I also pay too much money for it because i'm not nearly going to use it to it's fullest capabilities more so than what I could have done just as easily in a Sequoia? Yes. But is it sick af? Also yes.
All jokes aside I haven't driven a 1st gen but I imagine because of the weight and the mcpherson strut suspension in comparison to a literal firetruck torsion bar front suspenion in the landcruiser. That the Seq is a lot more comfortable to drive around town and on the highway as a result. Also the extra space, clutch. The parts availability on the cheap, extra clutch. Roll down hatch window, super clutch.
But I have a split tailgate worth a downpayment on a condo so there. Also my dog children get their own climate controls that they can't reach because their on the roof.
i owned both. the 05-07 sequoia is much better in every way, hands down.
"Vouge"?
4:54
That said. Thanks to The Fraziers for your output - I appreciate the analysis 👍
I was trying to say "Vouch" lol. I guess I forgot to record a second take for that little mistake. Thanks for watching!
@@TheFraziers 👍jk. Just engaging a lil bit 😀
1st gen sequoia with stock gears and no locker kinda sucks rock climbing and extreme terrain. But she's got 380k and still beasting every where so I guess I still love her. Just need to upgrade her some more
True but honesty it’s not that much worse than the 100 series. The 80 series was really the last land cruiser that is great for that kind of off roading.
Is their much size difference between the two
You’re right if you need a little more room a Sequoia is the better vehicle. They both have the same engine. Sequoia is a very good true body on frame SUV like the Land Cruiser.
@The Fraziers, regarding ATRAC, You mentioned that you are going to give an update on this in your next video so figured i have some info you would be interested in. Recently got into a debate on this so i emailed Toyota USA. What follows is my email to them and their reply.
Hello, i need help from an Engineer that can answer my question once and for all for the sake of everyone that owns Toyota Sequoias.
I currently own,
2010 FJ Cruiser 4X4 with RR Diff Lock and A-TRAC Button.
2008 2nd Gen Sequoia 4X4 with Transfer case lock.
2006 Sequoia 4X4 with Transfer case lock.
Does either generation of the Toyota Sequoia Have A-TRAC??? Not TRAC but A-TRAC.
The 2008 manual book page 214 has a quick mention of it but no other info is given, how and when it is activated? Is this the same A-TRAC as FJ Cruiser's or Land Cruiser? The only info it offers is,
A-TRAC (Active Traction Control) for 4WD Maintains drive power and prevents the all wheels from spinning when starting the vehicle or accelerating on slippery roads.
That is all it says.
The 2006 Sequoia Manual page 184 mentions states,
Active traction control system
(four−wheel drive models)
The active traction control system automatically helps prevent the spinning of
4 wheels (4WD mode) or rear wheels (2WD mode) when the vehicle is started or accelerated on slippery road surfaces. When the ignition key is turned to “ON”, the system automatically turns on. CAUTION Under certain slippery road conditions, full traction of the vehicle and power against 4 wheels (4WD mode) or rear wheels (2WD mode) cannot be maintained, even though the active traction control system is in operation. Do not drive the vehicle under any speed or maneuvering conditions which may cause the vehicle to lose traction control. In situations where the road surface is covered with ice or snow, your vehicle should be fitted with snow tires or tire chains. Always drive at an appropriate and cautious speed for the present road conditions.
Is this A-TRAC or something similar??? How does either of these supposed A-TRAC'S on the Sequoias compare to the Land Cruiser or other equipped Toyota models that do have A-TRAC.
Please help me verify any of this or better yet explain it to me because i am tired of going in circles with everyone in the Toyota Forums and local dealerships that either cannot or will not specify 100% if they do or not.
Thank You.
Toyota's reply was,
02/01/2021 05:52 PM
Dear Mr. Robinson,
Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc. We appreciate you allowing us the opportunity to assist you with your inquiry.
Both the 2006 and the 2008 Toyota Sequoia's are equipped with A-TRAC Active traction control system in the 4WD models. The 2WD option came equipped with TRAC
Traction Control. The system becomes activated automatically when the vehicle is turned on. You can refer to page 185 of the Owners Manual. It is not the same system as the FJ Cruiser, due to the fact that on the FJ the A-TRAC system has to be activated from the A-TRAC switch.
You are correct, that information is a accurate description of the active traction control system and how it works. The difference between the Sequoia's and the FJ Cruiser is that it is a automatic system on the Sequoia and a manual system on the FJ Cruiser. You can refer to page 185 under section 2-4. Using other driving systems of the FJ Cruiser's Owners Manual. We hope you found this information helpful.
Your email has been documented at our National Headquarters. If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us.
Sincerely,
Courtney G.
Toyota Brand Engagement Center
Thank you.
So in a nut shell yes Sequoias DO HAVE A-TRAC.
Buy a Sequoia at Half the price of a 100 and have just as much fun off road. I have no doubt some 100 owners will tell me how i am wrong or that the 100 is better, Yawn.
Super helpful! Thanks for sharing your research and Toyotas response
About the only downside of the Sequoia I can think of is the MPG.
The land cruiser is just as bad, possibly worse
The 4x4 market is tough right now
We’re so glad we bought ours right before Covid hit
Keep your eyes out below the rust belt, hit up Texas, Kansas, Lost of inventory which means better prices
I’m okay with spending more. I’d rather have a Landcruiser.
A great choice!
A 2000 Land cruiser in my area (front range) with 200k miles will go from anywhere between 12k-20k. Honestly, it's just gotten to be ridiculous. To the point where I feel like I'll never be able to buy any used lowish mileage toyota 4x4 ever again.
I just bought a 2007 sequoia with 96,000 miles for $5,000 I'm extremely happy! Quick question do I need to put on snow chains ⛓ to drive in snow or is the vehicle equipped to handle all terrains?
We live in northern Utah where we get over 100 inches of snow a year and have never needed chains. Our all terrains do the trick. If you go into really deep stuff, chains might be necessary.
@@TheFraziers I live in California and I was just planning a trip to Lake Tahoe.
@@ro_meo19a.43 You should be just fine with the sequoia’s 4wd and any tire with good tread
Damn Bro your pretty lucky I live in southern cali, under 100k miles and for $5k lucky
@@mimpcinco135 Extremely lucky🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Can you guys advise me on how to fit 33s or 35s on my sequoia? I’m not sure where to start
We made a video dedicated to fitting 33s. Can’t help you with 35s. You’ll need an angle grinder for that.
Also depends on what year and if you have airbags..
the only reason is because it's cheaper ... that is coming from a guy who owns a mildly modified 1st gen Sequoia, 2nd gen Tundra and has owned another stock 1st gen sequoia.
The problem is, nobody buys a LC70-200 because of budget.
Love my big tree! Built one for me then son wantes one built his similar to mine, awesome rigs
Landcruiser looks alot better 😍
Toyota Sequoia, simply the BEST! Size matters, too.
You mention the 1st gen Sequoia has A-trac. Can you go more into detail how a-trac is engaged in the sequoia. Obviously theirs no button to engage. Preferably in a video. Thanks for the info.
We’re gonna be making a video on the topic soon. The short answer is that it’s always engaged but works most effectively in 4 Lo with the center diff locked.
@@TheFraziers Looking forward to the video. Thanks for the quick response.
i thought the Sequoia only had TRAC?
ok, i scrolled down and got more info. so it uses brake lock like the 4runner?
hiya mate i live in the uk and its a shame as i prefer the look of the seck but we were never offered that model here so im gonna have to bite my lip and buy a cruiser .......
That’s my Land Cruiser in your video. Where did you get that photo?
Like literally, that is my Land Cruiser parked at the Eibach parking lot.
@@joesepeda8357 it came from pasmag.com on a page where they have the eibach lift advertised
@@TheFraziers yeah I found them. I didn’t realize Eibach had them up already. They used my Land Cruiser to make the part number for their Pro Lift kits. Had me tripping a bit for a second.
I’ve read a lot of conflicting info about whether or not the 1st gen Sequoia was equipped with ATRAC but the general consensus seems to be that it didn’t. 🤔
I need to make a video on this topic at some point but they absolutely do have it. It’s mentioned specifically in our owners manual. Even the early years have it. There’s a video on TH-cam of a 2002 sequoia clearly demonstrating atrac. The confusion likely comes from those who don’t understand how the system works and when it’s most noticeable
@@TheFraziers a video on that would be awesome.
I know for a fact a first gen, 2007 has Atrac, because mine does.
Agreed that would be an excellent video!
@@nathankoroush7918 is it TRAC or ATRAC? I think that’s where people get confused and why there’s conflicting info. My understanding is the Sequoias have TRAC, not ATRAC.
Are the 1st and 2nd generation Sequoias the exact same size inside and outside???
I believe the 2nd Gen is slightly bigger but it’s a pretty marginal difference
@@TheFraziers Much appreciated my man,what years are the first generation???
The Land Cruiser is shorter, better ground clearance, more robust chassis, and has aftermarket support that far outstrips the Sequoia, not to mention WORLDWIDE parts support. Not the case with the Sequoia.
I never denied this. I said that the sequoia was the better choice for us. All the advantages you just listed weren’t worth paying double for to us. Essentially, the sequoia is about 90% of what a land cruiser is at literally half the price.
I like these trucks but no offense, a Tahoe of the same era have a better 4wd system, a superior frame and more durable chassis. All while having more power and will last just as long if not longer and not having to deal with a timing belt. Also the Tahoe (00-2006) has a slightly smaller wheelbase if im not mistaken.
I think I might have to respectfully disagree. I’m curious why you suggest the 4wd system is better. They are essentially the same system. Two-speed transfer case and 50/50 torque split between the front and rear axle.
If anything the sequoia and land cruiser have ATRAC too. The Tahoe sometimes has a G-80 in the rear diff but they aren’t as effective as ATRAC and are subject to destroying the diff.
The Tahoe might have a slightly shorter wheelbase but the sequoia is going to win with a better approach angle and better ground clearance overall.
It’s also worth noting that my family has owned almost nothing but GM vehicles for the past 20 years and they’ve generally been completely worn out after 200,000 miles. Our sequoia feels almost fresh off the lot after 250,000.
Thanks for contributing to the discussion.
@@TheFraziers my family and I have had multiple GM vehicles well past 500k miles and have had great success with them. Also spending anytime in the auto industry will tell you the same thing.
Sequoias dont have a 50/50 transfer case and only the later ones had a center diff lock. The Tahoe actually has a part 4wd system and when switched to 4wd, actually locks 50/50 front and rear. The G80s aren't the greatest lockers but they are lockers that usually work fine in the bigger diffs, especially with over landing and basic trails.
As far as ground clearance goes, thats something id have to fact check. IIRC back in the day when one of the mags compared these SUVs stock in an off-road challenge, the Tahoe was the clear winner with the sequoia having the worst clearance and angles.
@@mdk7376 I’m glad to hear you’ve had good experience with them.
I must correct you on the sequoias transfer case. In 2003, all 4wd sequoias did in fact have a 2 speed transfer case and a locking center diff. When it’s locked, it does split 4wd evenly between the axles. I can confirm this is this case because my sequoia will “crab” when making sharp turns with it locked.
I believe Tahoes have a 4wd auto mode which is comparable to a sequoia in 4wd with the diff unlocked and a 4Hi option which is just like the sequoia in 4wd with the diff locked.
I can assure you that the 4wd systems are almost identical and definitely not different enough to declare a “winner” between the two.
Honestly, if you’ve had good experience with Tahoes and other GM vehicles, then more power to you. We can kindly go our way and chose whatever vehicle we like. Competition amongst manufacturers is good for all of us 👍
I really wanted a Tree, SO hard to find a REALLY nice rust free frame... sooo many rough ones. That and the belt driven cam....What the hell Toyota?!....
Went 05 Excursion V-10.... What a beast....Passes everything but a gas station....
The excursion is in a league of its own. I’d love to have one myself.
@@TheFraziers You can find the V-10s very reasonable...usually because of the mpg...lol.
Price, price and price
Where I Work Most Of The Parts For A 2002 Toyota Sequoia And A 2010 Dodge Avenger Are Same Price; However There Are A Some Parts For The 2002 Sequoia Cost More And Some Parts That Cost Less.
I Drove My Avenger Until The Engine Gave Out.
Both Vehicles Are Paid Off.
My Mom's Gonna Tow My Avenger To A Junk Yard And We Are Going To Split The Money.
well too bad they don't sell the sequoia here
also the 100 series land cruiser are still crazy expensive since i live in indonesia
lol
Harder to find used parts for the Sequoia compared to a Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban. My local U-pick has had one Sequoia in the last 6 months, compared to at least a dozen Tahoe, etc,
I don’t believe I was comparing the sequoia to Tahoes
@@TheFraziers I didnt say you were.
Maybe that’s bc sequoias are all still on the road after approx 15-20 years haha. Look around - all the older cars on the highways are Toyota’s.
@@overland_panda how easily vehicles are found in salvage yards is often a good indication of how well they were built or what kind of driver generally purchases them haha
@@overland_panda that is part of it, but they also made 10x more 2000-2006 Suburbans/Tahoes/Yukons than they made 1st gen Sequoias.
First off the term "Overlanding" just cracks me up to no end, but that is for another rant- LOL! I am a hard core Landcruiser guy and have owned and loved all of them. Now - with that being said I have recently (1 year ago) just purchased an awesome 2005 Jeep Rubicon / Sahara and love it and just last week I bought a mint 1st Gen Tundra Access Cab. I love the Landcruisers but they have now eclipsed any kind of normal price range. So I do agree w/ you the 1st Gen Tundra's and Sequoia's are excellent bargains! You can check out my vid th-cam.com/video/1j3f0ZTyWaE/w-d-xo.html Thanks !!
You mentioned your Sequoia has A TRAC. I thought A TRAC wasn't added to Sequoias until Gen 2?
No that’s a misconception. All 4wd sequoias have some basic form of atrac. Even 2001 and 2002 models.
@@TheFraziers Wow! I did not know that! Do you have to manually engage atrac with with a button like you do on 5th gen 4Runners? Or does it come on automatically when 4wd is engaged?
@@haereticus171 No button. It’s just always functioning in 4Lo assuming there aren’t any current faults in the ABS or traction control system.
Hey, i just traded my 98 f150 with 241k for a 01 sequoia with 239k when I did the trade the owner was able to drive it around the corner, I towed it home and I’m trying to see why see blows white smoke and now not a noise when you turn the key you know anything that could help?
White smoke from the exhaust usually is related to some coolant leaking. Often times it’s the head gasket. Hard to say for sure. I’m not a mechanic, I’ve just gotten lucky the few times I’ve fixed a car myself
@@TheFraziers appreciate it anyways, you know anyone that would help?
@@jacobjohnson653 I’d check in some local Toyota forums or Facebook groups in your specific area you live to see if someone has a recommendation for a good Toyota mechanic, or possibly someone who has had a similar problem who might know what the fix is.
@@TheFraziers ahh I got it on fb mp but didn’t think about joining a group good idea
@@TheFraziers and btw how old is your truck and is it rusting at all, and what have had to replace anything on her?
Sequoias are very good, Landcruisers are better but the LX are the best.
LX 450
Whatever you can afford is the best,there all great vehicles...
The only reason to buy a Sequoia instead of a Land Cruiser is the price and that’s it.
And the size too. You know naturally the world don't like cheap things even when efficient
I will take a Land Cruiser with the inline 6 engine…
There’s still nothing like an old 60 series in my mind. I’d kill to have one.
@@TheFraziers exactly
Good luck finding a lc for 8k!
I have a first gen tundra and a 60 series and they’re both broken😂
I’m sure that’s a rare circumstance 😂 I’ve always wanted a 60s series. Lucky you!
Sequoias under 200k miles here in California 10k+ under 10k they are beat up.
I'm jealous of California's weather and scenery but nothing else haha