Technolli, thank you so much for all your help! I have been using the system you helped me build in 2020 and it has been flawless, running Catalina and Pro Tools 12. I run a lot of tracks and plug ins and there is no way a base M2 Mac mini could do what this machine does. I have never had to restore the system from a backup once. The satisfaction in building a machine yourself is huge. For newcomers it might be daunting but I would urge anyone who might be swayed to consider your argument about the base Mac mini if they are running large track count and plug ins. Thanks again.
Not sure what is going on with your CPU but my i3-13100F hackintosh gets over 2.3K single-core and 8.3k multi-core in Geekbench 6, beating my M1 MacBook.
It’s true hackintosh for cost is not needed anymore an iMax 5k 27 is fantastic value. It’s only for upgradeability and maximising performance with latest tech.
I was told that Ventura was the last Intel compatable OS, so I was surprised Sonoma does work on hackintosh and it's great to hear the version after Sonoma will work too. One other BIG advantage is a dual boot. On M2 you cannot do bootcamp ! On your rig you could dualboot with SteamOS ! Imagine that. Two operating systems ! Can't do that on M2 Ultra ! Mac Pro.
Indeed running Windows is important to many Mac users. Parallels or fusion running Windows on Arm and it is simply not the best experience for x86 apps. I’ll take an x86 CPU and a 6900xt any day over my MacStudio for running Windows apps.
@@imcalledandy I think its about 3 years ago with Big Sur, Apple disabled the display stream compression for display port 1.4. The feature is only available on thunderbolt
Very interesting video, Mr. @technolli. I'm wondering THE BEST BUILD for running Sonoma. I've sonoma running in a i7-8700 with 64Gb of RAM and RADEON RX-580, but I would like to sensible improve my performance working with video in Final and other tasks. What's your recommendation?? Thank you for this awesome video !!!
Yes but the M1 and M2 and ALL Silicon Macs utilize memory in a very different way than Intel Macs and also the processor works in a much more efficient way so you can't compare them side by side with the same amount of RAM etc. 8GB of RAM on a Silicon Mac is like at least 24GB on an Intel Mac.
I have a new Asus B660M-A D4 motherboard/I3 13100/16 GB RAM/500GB NVME. I wonder if adding the RX 560/580 (I have no graphics card in this build) and disabling the one onboard would be a good base system. Tempted to try!
Hii bro Can i use 2 graphics card … in one hacknitosh…. Vega 56 currently I m using …. Getting a used vega 64…. Will this works .. with vega 56 as dual graphics cards intel hacknitosh .. 10900k …gigabyte z490.. pls reply
oh, wow, this is right up my alley. i've just run out of interesting console mods and I've got a mini i want to upgrade. 8 gigs ram is never going to cut it, and i'm not paying the apple tax. remember when macbooks were made to upgrade and we'd turn them into dual drive frankensteins and max out the ram for pennies? those were the days. but now you've got me thinking, i wouldn't mind building one from all new components and tossing them in a custom case. shoot, that would actually be a fun project. now you have me wondering if i can build out a hackintosh with specs apple doesn't touch yet :) imagine that, a world where you're not always cursing your terrible, out of the box, specs. we haven't had that in apple land in a decade.
A Mac Mini M2 Pro 16GB/1TB costs €1811,52. And it's beaten by a €700 14600k/RX5700 hackintosh. No sense in making a computer that's 30% faster for much less than half the money ?
@@beinportugal9748 it kinda doesnt because while it does outperform m2 m2 is gonna be supported on mac os for much longer afterall hackintosh relies on intel version of mac os which will dissapear once last intel mac gets dropped
This clearly shows that you are better off buying a base m2 Mac mini. This part new, part second hand components computer it’s struggling to compare even with an 3 year old m1.
thank you for all you videos - ALWAYS very helpful. I am trying to update one of my pc's (dell optiplex 7040 micro - skylake) from big sur to ventura or sonoma - the install seems to go great until the last minute and then fails with this message "An error occurred preparing the update. Failed to personalize the software update. Please try again" - this has happened numerous times now (too many to mention) - have you ever experienced this and is there a way to stop it from happening?
Hello Sir, you used an AMD RX 560 graphics card for this build. But what is the future of this card? Next Mac OS will be compatible with this card or not.
@@D-OneBasically in India graphics are costly $120, and I have to spend for RX 560 card. This time if I am purchasing a graphics card then it should at least work for 2 Mac OSs and if required then I can increase my budget for some other card so it can work for me longer time.
@@siddharthtrivedi3322 Oh, I see. GPUs dont tend to loose support on MacOS, they are still used in intel Mac Pros so it's unlikely to loose support soon to the point the hack community can't find a fix. You're more likely to not have intel x86 support in 2 OS's than loosing GPU's but impossible to know 100%.
@@D-One First of all thank you for your valuable suggestion :) As per your last reply, do you mean it may be possible Apple will remove support for the Intel chipset within their next Mac OS release? Next, do you suggest for DDR5 or DDR6 graphic card? Even the RX 580 card is $20 more costly than the RX 560 which option to choose? But not getting cards from brands like Asus or Gigabyte. Some Peladn and Sapphire brands are coming for RX 580 graphics cards and I have not heard these company names.
I can tell you that I am very satisfied, the installation worked for both Ventura and Sonoma, thank you for the helpful offer, for me the financial investment in your offer was worth it... 👌🙂
Apple's ram is not the same as the x86 counter. so the 16gb mac is equivelant to 32gb. the 8gb is close to your 16gb. You computer is 420 bucks, so you are saving a little but I think unless you want to build a computer, its not worth the savings over a used mac option. I refuse to build a computer. It was a nightmare back when I did it, and its still a time drain today. Also there are a ton of mac minis for about 450 to 500 dollars so your saving roughly a few dollars? I dont really understand all that work when you can just get a used mac? With an i3 that is dog slow compared to a m1, let alone a m2.
That's just abject nonsense. 16GB is 16GB. A file doesn't magically change size just because you're running on a different CPU architecture. In fact a 16GB M2 Mac Mini effectively has less RAM than a 16GB hackintosh because the M2 is using part of that RAM for the GPU while the hackintosh has dedicated VRAM on the graphics card, leaving the entire 16GB available.
There is no good reason to build a Hackintosh now. The ARM chips in apple silicon are ending intel. Maybe the hackintosh costs a little less ,, but not enough to justify the limitations.
Not true at all. There are very good reasons to build a Hackintosh now... it's just that trying to build something to compete with a Mac Mini is not one of them. But if you're going up against a new Mac Studio or Mac Pro, then it makes perfect sense and you spend half as much. Also you can dual boot and play windows games on windows or Linux.
@@serqetryFunny how you agree with @Freefallu that Hackintosh mostly are cheaper than maxed out Apple Computer. In case of video editing, even the base model Apple Computer are superior to the vast majority of Windows video editing PC‘s.
@@paulhorn24 define "vast majority". Because Raptor Lake PCs are definitely way more powerful than the vast majority of Apple silicon Macs out there currently. I'm sure the Windows video editing software completely blows compared to what's on MacOS though. Hackintosh is still the way to go if you want an affordable massively powerful MacOS system, and that's probably only going to change when Apple drops Intel support completely.
@@serqetry Ask 100 professional video editors all over the world as their real life experiences and their comparisons between video editing on Windows or macOS are much more valid than some theoretical benchmarks. Yes, Hackintoshs can be very, very much cheaper than maxed out Apple Computer. Yes, a Hackintosh can get better Benchmark results than base or maxed out Apple computer. Yes, getting a Hackintosh to run well is probably much more rewarding than buying and unboxing a brandnew Apple computer.
I think Apple has been gaslighting their customers about the cost of RAM and SSD storage. Apple’s pricing strategy is the reason to go the hackintosh route in 2023 imho.
Or you can buy a used Intel-based Apple Computer and use either Open Core Legacy Patcher or Dosdude1‘s macOS Patcher to get a younger Apple OS on a officially unsupported Mac.
Yes, Apple rips off its customers with the outrageous costs of Upgrades for decades now and with Apple silicone Mac‘s its feels even worse now because we can‘t upgrade the RAM anymore or change the HDD to bigger ones or faster SSD as we have done in the past.
Yes the 1TB WD NVMe in my hackintosh cost €57 from Amazon. To add a 1TB NVMe to a Mac Mini, Apple wants €463. Literally eight times more money. I can understand Apple charging more, maybe even double the real cost, but to charge 8 times more is daylight robbery.
Because you can buy a pc for less than 600 bucks and it’s expandable unlike the macmini. I used Mac’s since 1987. I quit. Macs are overpriced closed systems. It’s over apple.
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Technolli, thank you so much for all your help! I have been using the system you helped me build in 2020 and it has been flawless, running Catalina and Pro Tools 12. I run a lot of tracks and plug ins and there is no way a base M2 Mac mini could do what this machine does. I have never had to restore the system from a backup once. The satisfaction in building a machine yourself is huge. For newcomers it might be daunting but I would urge anyone who might be swayed to consider your argument about the base Mac mini if they are running large track count and plug ins. Thanks again.
So glad your build is still up and running! Thank you for your kind words and yes Hackintosh is amazing, cheap and solid!
I9-13900K+128Gb RAM DDR5 5400Mhz+6950xt+ 1TB Samsung 980 Pro 2500€, less performance with top config of Mac Studio M2 Ultra 7350€..Apple Prices...
Not sure what is going on with your CPU but my i3-13100F hackintosh gets over 2.3K single-core and 8.3k multi-core in Geekbench 6, beating my M1 MacBook.
It’s true hackintosh for cost is not needed anymore an iMax 5k 27 is fantastic value. It’s only for upgradeability and maximising performance with latest tech.
I was told that Ventura was the last Intel compatable OS, so I was surprised Sonoma does work on hackintosh and it's great to hear the version after Sonoma will work too. One other BIG advantage is a dual boot. On M2 you cannot do bootcamp ! On your rig you could dualboot with SteamOS ! Imagine that. Two operating systems ! Can't do that on M2 Ultra ! Mac Pro.
Sonoma is working flawlessly. Dual boot option is a must for some people. Thanks for your comment!
Indeed running Windows is important to many Mac users. Parallels or fusion running Windows on Arm and it is simply not the best experience for x86 apps. I’ll take an x86 CPU and a 6900xt any day over my MacStudio for running Windows apps.
Hackintoshes will easily work till early 2027. So we have plenty of time
What is the fastest Intel CPU supported on Hackintosh ?
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Whatever the fastest intel CPU is, at this time it's i9-14900K
I used to build a lot of hackintosh but since I can no longer get 4K 165hz out of my 6900XT on the latest mac OS, it's a no go for me.
Is that on Sonoma?
@@imcalledandy I think its about 3 years ago with Big Sur, Apple disabled the display stream compression for display port 1.4. The feature is only available on thunderbolt
isn't it possible?
@@alperyay no 4K 144hz without DSC through DP1.4. And DSC is only supported through Thunderbolt. Lots of headaches.
My new build contains a 7980xe CPU, designair ex MB and titan XP GPU. Got all these for under $600 on eBay.
Very interesting video, Mr. @technolli. I'm wondering THE BEST BUILD for running Sonoma. I've sonoma running in a i7-8700 with 64Gb of RAM and RADEON RX-580, but I would like to sensible improve my performance working with video in Final and other tasks.
What's your recommendation??
Thank you for this awesome video !!!
New MONSTER build coming soon to the channel. Stay tuned!
@@TechNolli thank you very much!! So kind !!
Sonoma and Bluetooth / WiFi is a problem for this atm. Hopefully a solution will come soon
Wifi Intel is working fine with the new Beta kext here: github.com/OpenIntelWireless/itlwm/releases
Broadcom also working fine here, with OCLP patch
Yes but the M1 and M2 and ALL Silicon Macs utilize memory in a very different way than Intel Macs and also the processor works in a much more efficient way so you can't compare them side by side with the same amount of RAM etc. 8GB of RAM on a Silicon Mac is like at least 24GB on an Intel Mac.
I have a new Asus B660M-A D4 motherboard/I3 13100/16 GB RAM/500GB NVME. I wonder if adding the RX 560/580 (I have no graphics card in this build) and disabling the one onboard would be a good base system. Tempted to try!
The inbuilt will never work
What about wifi/BT?
Sonoma Wifi is working with Beta kext here: github.com/OpenIntelWireless/itlwm/releases. Bluetooth is coming.
Hii bro Can i use 2 graphics card … in one hacknitosh…. Vega 56 currently I m using ….
Getting a used vega 64…. Will this works .. with vega 56 as dual graphics cards
intel hacknitosh .. 10900k …gigabyte z490.. pls reply
How to do this on older hardware? One that already runs Catalina Hackentosh?????
oh, wow, this is right up my alley. i've just run out of interesting console mods and I've got a mini i want to upgrade. 8 gigs ram is never going to cut it, and i'm not paying the apple tax. remember when macbooks were made to upgrade and we'd turn them into dual drive frankensteins and max out the ram for pennies? those were the days. but now you've got me thinking, i wouldn't mind building one from all new components and tossing them in a custom case. shoot, that would actually be a fun project. now you have me wondering if i can build out a hackintosh with specs apple doesn't touch yet :) imagine that, a world where you're not always cursing your terrible, out of the box, specs. we haven't had that in apple land in a decade.
No sense today make Hackintosh, only for run Catalina or old applications and plugins . MacMini M2 Pro 16 GB 1 TB ssd it's a beast !!!!
what do you mean bro? Im currently replying to you
through my mac os sonoma hackintosh with 64gb ram and 14th gen intel processor lol
A Mac Mini M2 Pro 16GB/1TB costs €1811,52.
And it's beaten by a €700 14600k/RX5700 hackintosh.
No sense in making a computer that's 30% faster for much less than half the money ?
@@beinportugal9748 it kinda doesnt because while it does outperform m2
m2 is gonna be supported on mac os for much longer
afterall hackintosh relies on intel version of mac os which will dissapear once last intel mac gets dropped
This clearly shows that you are better off buying a base m2 Mac mini. This part new, part second hand components computer it’s struggling to compare even with an 3 year old m1.
You're amazing. Great Video. Is there any chance of a tutorial of upgrade to Sonoma? Thanks
thank you for all you videos - ALWAYS very helpful. I am trying to update one of my pc's (dell optiplex 7040 micro - skylake) from big sur to ventura or sonoma - the install seems to go great until the last minute and then fails with this message "An error occurred preparing the update. Failed to personalize the software update. Please try again" - this has happened numerous times now (too many to mention) - have you ever experienced this and is there a way to stop it from happening?
Excelente video!!!!!
Thanks!
Any motherboard whit thunderbolt ?
ASUS ProArt Z790-Creator
Asrock has their Tai-Chi boards and they have ⚡thunderbolt ⚡
New video coming with Thunderbolt.
But It work correctlay with any iPhone? And then, It can upgrade to new macOs?
No.
Because it's awesome 😊
Are you going to show how to build the EFI
So I have a question will hackintosh work with an rtx 3080?
Nope - mac fell out with nvidia so no drivers
please help to create efi for Intel 12900H alderlake I pay how much you want
Does this work for AMD CPUs too?
Hello Sir, you used an AMD RX 560 graphics card for this build. But what is the future of this card? Next Mac OS will be compatible with this card or not.
Not sure if he can predict the future...Probably will work, if not then you only spent 30$
@@D-OneBasically in India graphics are costly $120, and I have to spend for RX 560 card.
This time if I am purchasing a graphics card then it should at least work for 2 Mac OSs and if required then I can increase my
budget for some other card so it can work for me longer time.
@@siddharthtrivedi3322 Oh, I see. GPUs dont tend to loose support on MacOS, they are still used in intel Mac Pros so it's unlikely to loose support soon to the point the hack community can't find a fix. You're more likely to not have intel x86 support in 2 OS's than loosing GPU's but impossible to know 100%.
@@D-One First of all thank you for your valuable suggestion :)
As per your last reply, do you mean it may be possible Apple will remove support for the Intel chipset within their next Mac OS release?
Next, do you suggest for DDR5 or DDR6 graphic card?
Even the RX 580 card is $20 more costly than the RX 560 which option to choose? But not getting cards from brands like Asus or Gigabyte.
Some Peladn and Sapphire brands are coming for RX 580 graphics cards and I have not heard these company names.
@@D-One Basically NVIDIA cars not working with the latest Mac OS, you need AMD cards so I think, graphics cards are too OS-dependent.
What MacOS version is this hackintosh on?
Geekbench shows it’s Sonoma
Sonoma
Why would you continue to compare desktops to laptops?
Are you going to show how to build the EFI?
that's the trickiest part
I can tell you that I am very satisfied, the installation worked for both Ventura and Sonoma, thank you for the helpful offer, for me the financial investment in your offer was worth it... 👌🙂
Apple's ram is not the same as the x86 counter. so the 16gb mac is equivelant to 32gb. the 8gb is close to your 16gb. You computer is 420 bucks, so you are saving a little but I think unless you want to build a computer, its not worth the savings over a used mac option. I refuse to build a computer. It was a nightmare back when I did it, and its still a time drain today. Also there are a ton of mac minis for about 450 to 500 dollars so your saving roughly a few dollars? I dont really understand all that work when you can just get a used mac?
With an i3 that is dog slow compared to a m1, let alone a m2.
That's just abject nonsense. 16GB is 16GB. A file doesn't magically change size just because you're running on a different CPU architecture. In fact a 16GB M2 Mac Mini effectively has less RAM than a 16GB hackintosh because the M2 is using part of that RAM for the GPU while the hackintosh has dedicated VRAM on the graphics card, leaving the entire 16GB available.
@@beinportugal9748i dont know what this dude is high on but u know what they say, empty vessels make the most noise
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There is no good reason to build a Hackintosh now. The ARM chips in apple silicon are ending intel. Maybe the hackintosh costs a little less ,, but not enough to justify the limitations.
Not true at all. There are very good reasons to build a Hackintosh now... it's just that trying to build something to compete with a Mac Mini is not one of them. But if you're going up against a new Mac Studio or Mac Pro, then it makes perfect sense and you spend half as much. Also you can dual boot and play windows games on windows or Linux.
Totally agree.@@serqetry
@@serqetryFunny how you agree with @Freefallu that Hackintosh mostly are cheaper than maxed out Apple Computer.
In case of video editing, even the base model Apple Computer are superior to the vast majority of Windows video editing PC‘s.
@@paulhorn24 define "vast majority". Because Raptor Lake PCs are definitely way more powerful than the vast majority of Apple silicon Macs out there currently. I'm sure the Windows video editing software completely blows compared to what's on MacOS though. Hackintosh is still the way to go if you want an affordable massively powerful MacOS system, and that's probably only going to change when Apple drops Intel support completely.
@@serqetry Ask 100 professional video editors all over the world as their real life experiences and their comparisons between video editing on Windows or macOS are much more valid than some theoretical benchmarks.
Yes, Hackintoshs can be very, very much cheaper than maxed out Apple Computer.
Yes, a Hackintosh can get better Benchmark results than base or maxed out Apple computer.
Yes, getting a Hackintosh to run well is probably much more rewarding than buying and unboxing a brandnew Apple computer.
Well I'm thinking, that this hackintosh's will sooner or later die, because the point will come when only arm-based macs getting support.
I think Apple has been gaslighting their customers about the cost of RAM and SSD storage. Apple’s pricing strategy is the reason to go the hackintosh route in 2023 imho.
Totally agree.
Or you can buy a used Intel-based Apple Computer and use either Open Core Legacy Patcher or Dosdude1‘s macOS Patcher to get a younger Apple OS on a officially unsupported Mac.
Yes, Apple rips off its customers with the outrageous costs of Upgrades for decades now and with Apple silicone Mac‘s its feels even worse now because we can‘t upgrade the RAM anymore or change the HDD to bigger ones or faster SSD as we have done in the past.
Yes the 1TB WD NVMe in my hackintosh cost €57 from Amazon. To add a 1TB NVMe to a Mac Mini, Apple wants €463. Literally eight times more money. I can understand Apple charging more, maybe even double the real cost, but to charge 8 times more is daylight robbery.
but the power consumption!!! i am kidding of course
11:53 dude, it’s a Mac pro
Because you can buy a pc for less than 600 bucks and it’s expandable unlike the macmini. I used Mac’s since 1987. I quit. Macs are overpriced closed systems. It’s over apple.
bravo