Traxxas LaTrax Rally | Brushed vs Brushless | Upgrade and Speed Test
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- Brushed vs Brushless in the LaTrax Rally!
I have been wanting to do this test for awhile now, glad we could finally get the brushless system and get it done.
We have had our LaTrax Rally for over a year now. It is a fun car...that is a handful to drive!
The power from the stock brushed motor is more than enough for us in most situations. However, this brushed motor is starting to really generate some heat and I was worried it was about to be dead.
In comes a GoolRC brushless setup!
The whole brushless combo (25A ESC, 4800kv motor) cost $40, that is it, $40! Link: amzn.to/2Z6Ndk3
In this video we show how to install this brushless setup, but also take it out for a speed run to see the speed difference versus the stock brushed setup.
The results are surprising!
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More dad's need to be like this! Great video!
Thank you!
Nice video!
Being a new subscriber I'm slowly making my way through your content and a got to say I love how you get everyone involved.
It's really nice to see a family enjoying something together.
Top Dad 👍🏻
Thank you!
Yes, that is certainly the main reason I am in this. Used to do 1:1 stuff, but they couldn't do that with me.
My friend you have the same taste in RC cars as me. Every time I need info on my cars I find it on your channel. Thank you for your help and the great content
Thank you! Very kind of you!
The speed is great for the scale. Also, things start to break and it can get annoying. Great upgrade. Hope there has been more through the years 🤙🏿 keep the hobby alive.
Thank you!
Great vid - good to see the family involved 😊
Absolutely - that is why we are in it!
Thanks for video! Helpful and informative!
Glad it was helpful!
Stock motor just crapped out on my Prerunner so thanks for the inspiration and guidance on how to do the upgrade on my LaTrax.
Glad this was helpful!
This combo worked well in this Rally.
Watching just to check 😂 picking up a latrax rally tomorrow, already had a goolrc setup lying around, excited to finally have something to put it in
Hope you enjoy it.
I do recommend driving it stock first.
Plus, get all of the metal gears, bearings on order. You will need them.
cool upgrade,nice test
Thanks 👍
Great comparison video my friend👊👍😎😊🇬🇧
Thank you!
I got that same motor escin my rally with a 20t pinion and a 10thscale servo where the receiver is and I moved that receiver behind the servo, added a little weight to the right side to balance it out and now it drifts pretty good in the garage lol
Awesome! A full 1/10 servo is MASSIVE in this vehicle.
I was kind of suprised that it didn't go faster, but changing to a brush less set up is still a good idea. Those brushed motors seemed to go out fairly quickly, the brushless set ups do seem to last longer.
Exactly! Honestly, I am not 100% sorry that it is not faster. It would have been cool to show "wow, it goes 60mph!!!"....but the car would have been miserable to drive. Very glad it worked out like it did!
Definately good upgrade! I did mine with dual brushless motor ..haha I will be uploading vid soon! Waiting for my gearing arrive. 24t 50t let's go!!
Wow - that will have a lot of torque. Will certainly need some crazy gearing to take advantage of it.
Any tips on getting this thing to actually handle decent?
@@RoadsideRC I put traxxas tsm receiver on it. I'll update you soon I get it running. :)
Cool little car great video
Thanks 👍
Great video! Couldn't tell what battery you chose. Can make a huge difference also. I used nano tech lipo on my losi micro, was like giving it steroids lol.
Will go back to this video when I do my brushless conversion 👍
Awesome! Glad it was helpful.
Awesome video 😊
Thank you 😁
I didn't even notice the channel name until the video started. Of course you'd be the first video that would pop up lol! Very cool dude, I'm leaning heavily toward this car, but I'd love to chew your ear sometime about it.
Yes! Funny how that works.
Happy to talk about it more. Did you get the info I sent you via Facebook messenger?
@@RoadsideRC I sent you a message on your roadsiderc page
Nice little upgrade 👍
I think so too!
Nice James! Way to wear that brushed motor out😎
I think it turn out just right speed wise, and hopefully throttle control will be a little bit better.
I hope so too! Honestly, this thing is just a handful. Fun to drive in small spaces, but very unstable.
He’s well on his way to a 1/10 scale....that’s where the real consistent chassis start. I have a few students with mini-z, and even with higher quality upgraded parts, they just don’t drive consistently. Happy 4th!
interesting motor swapout there mate
*its a like👍Au👍and a full watch too*
Thank you!
Great vid
Thank you!
Nice upgrade
I sure hope so!
Was a little surprised the speed came out at 19mph, but honestly - that is fast enough for this car.
I got the Teton I’m trying figure out a good servo and I was thinking of putting a hobbywing
Honestly, I never swapped from the stock servo.
What upgraded motor is that? And where can I get one these days? Great video thanks
Here you go: amzn.to/2Z6Ndk3
Link was in the video description.
Hello from Russia and thank you for video. I have Rally and Teton, trying to make them brushless. Main problem is motor mounting holes. GoolRC motor has M2.5 holes and they are 16mm away from each other. Stock brushed motor has M3 holes and they are on 17mm distance. Looks like I have to drill/oval holes in motor plate. You didn't said anything about it. Did your new motor fits 1:1? I've bought 2430 motor, but it's on the way to me from China.
Thank you for watching and greetings!
This motor bolted straight up without any changes.
Love the vid did you need a memory card for this setup I just put mine in my mini t 2.0 and everything is backwards such as stearing throttle ect any help would be appreciated thanks
If throttle is backwards, and it is actually faster in reverse - then swap two of the motor wires. Fixed!
If steering is reversed, there is a switch on the controller to reverse the steering inputs. Fixed!
I had to calibrate I guess but it worked thanks for your reply man thank you
Get an after market reciver
Yeah. I have the TETON brushed and didn't realize how quick it is until I put 2s. This car doesn't really need to be any faster. Not even sure how well it will handle much faster.
EXACTLY! The suspension is not good enough to handle more power.
I have a Traxxas slash 1/10 with a vennolin(sorry for spelling error) setup. I'd love to see an overhaul tutorial of how to put that setup in a 1/18 car.
Unfortunately, it will not fit due to sheer size.
We just put the same system in a friend's Teton today but haven't had a chance to test it yet. Yours seems more punchy even if top speed is no higher. My Teton is geared up with hobbywing brushless and it's significantly quicker, but my GPS hasn't arrived yet to be able to put a figure on it.
Ah! I didn't see the Hobbywing setup out there. How did it fit? What KV?
@@RoadsideRC I got the quicrun 2435 motor, 4500kv and quicrun 16bl30 esc.
It pops wheelies with the high speed gears fitted! It is slightly bigger than your set up but fits fine.
Thanks!
I dropped my old 18tj scale brushless setup in mine and the speed control is DEAD! Time to take it apart and see why it won't power on.
Ah boo! Good luck!
sorry for late comment may you provide a link to the battery you use?
I believe it is this one:
amzn.to/3qbqXmu
** If you do this you need to get the metal diff gear kits and output gear kits. Two different kits are required to get all metal diffs. You might as well do metal axles and a ball bearing kit while you're at it. **
This is true!!!
That brushed motor has about/around 4800kv so the brushless 4800kv will be around the same speed. The brushless will definitely be more efficient as far as battery but if more speed is desired you need a 5800kv or higher. Nice video.
Thank you!
Haha awesome, fast little rc is always fun to drive, I recommend putting brushless in a scx24?!
Brushless SCX24? Do they make sensored motors that small?
Lol I don’t know but that one you used was pretty small!😂🤪
I did it
Doesn't the Rally come with hard, more drift oriented tires? That could well explain it being a handful trying to do a speed run in the wet. 😉. I have the Prerunner version and picked up an unpainted Rally body and I'm hoping the Prerunner wheels will go under the Rally body without having to butcher the wheel wells too badly because I really don't want to fool with those Goofy little wheels/tires the Rally is sold with. Speaking of wheels and tires though, anyone know of any alternatives to stock? I haven't removed a wheel yet, but the guy in the shop said they're an oddball size of her drive.
The stock rally tires are slicks, but actually a rather soft compound. I believe most of this is attributed to the limited suspension design from the factory. Throwing on some better shocks would probably help a lot!
So far, I have found zero alternatives to the stock wheels. Boo...
Which pinion did you use for the brushless motor?
I used the stock pinion.
when changing the motor and esc to brushless do you have to change the battery too?
You do not have to. However, I was already running a lipo on the old setup.
what mAh?
@@Chorizo_God 2000mah.
What is the battery size you are running? I’m about to switch mine over to brushless but am worried about buying a battery that’s too large to fit in it. Thank you for your video and answer.
Hi there! This is an older video, so unfortunately I don't remember what battery I used.
Here is how I go about picking a battery for a car. It should help you.
th-cam.com/video/TXZkRZKNHjs/w-d-xo.html
@@RoadsideRC thanks for your response, I found some one Amazon that will hopefully fit. Thanks for the instructional video!
for the SURpass brushless can i install fan cooling system 👀
Yes, you will just need to find the right size.
@@RoadsideRC ok thnks 🔥
I was thinking you can add a Lipo battery now since you have a new Esc. The brushless upgrade is about $149. The actual car new is $119.
I was actually already running a lipo before I did the brushless swap - just had to be careful since the stock ESC didn't have a low voltage cutoff.
Yes - I have more $$$ in upgrades on this car than it was worth originally.
@@RoadsideRC I don’t think a Lipo would be a good idea since your Esc does not have low voltage cut. Nice video 👍🏻
If you want more speed with the same motor you got then just get a esc that handles 3s lipo, mine probably does around 30 or 35 mph on 3s and around max speed 25 mph on 2s lipo 35c and you can get the full bearing kit also that helps to achieve your speed limit, my system is from a 1/16th losi short course but did get the hobby park 2435 (4800kv) for my second rally just to have one specifically for 2s and one for 3s
That is correct! Thanks for sharing.
Soooo it looks like I cant fit a 1/10 scale brushless in a LaTrax......
That would be a very difficult fit!!!
How did u get the battery connector for the other speed controller on to the new one
I soldered it.
A very helpful thing to have on this hobby!
@@RoadsideRC Oh. I don't solder very well. Is there ay other way to get it on?
No other solutions really.
Is there someone else near you who can solder?
@@RoadsideRC There is nobody near me that I know. Do u think that connectors will work?
I mean like using spade connectors.
Is that system plug and play with the stock transmitter?
Yes. You leave the stock receiver in also.
You need to calibrate the esc, like you would with any new system.
@@RoadsideRC can u assist? How do you calibrate the ESC mentioned in this video with the stock transmitter? Any help is much appreciated!
There are instructions with the ESC
How did u get the traxxas adapter on the esc
I don't actually use Traxxas plugs.
However, I just soldered the plug on that I wanted to use.
Soldering is SUPER useful in this hobby!
Roadside RC did u cut the wire to solder it?
Hmm. Honestly don't remember.
Usually, if it already has a plug on it, I un-solder that join and reconnect the new one.
Did you have to change the diffs with the brushless system?
Yes - the brushless power shreds the stock gears.
@@RoadsideRC can you run 3s on that esc like a 1300 3s?
I don't believe it will take 3S - can't fully remember. I know I never tried, as the car was uncontrollable on 2S.
@@RoadsideRC oh okay
Did u have to get a new radio?
Nope!
Stock Traxxas one worked just fine.
@@RoadsideRC Ok. Thanks!!!!
Your gonna need a metal spur gear I got the same brushless setup and the spur gear went to heck right away I got a hot racing spur gear
I literally had it in my cart and decided to not purchase it yet. Dang it! Soo much work to get into that spur gear also.
Ya I know what you e
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Very nice video. Are you still happy with that motor/ESC set up? Has it held up? And I was wondering, did you purchase a GoolRC Programming Card to tune the ESC any different? I think there's different power and breaking modes available...otherwise it comes preset at 'medium' or something like that. I just burnt out the brushed motor on my Teton, so looking at my options. Thanks!
Thanks!
I honestly never used it much more after the brushless upgrade. I ended up shredding diff gears (Rally comes with plastic gears), and then started to run my larger vehicles more.
Still - it appeared strong, and I have no doubts that the new owner is still enjoying it.
Is that a 4000kv? If so put a 60amp esc and a 3s to it.
3S would be nuts in this car! It was barely controllable on 2S!
@@RoadsideRC it needs some grip tires. Those bald touring tires are to slippery. Bet it would be a little rocket on some foams!
If you haven’t already, get the bearing kit it will help with straight line driving and speed
Yes!!
That is literally the first thing I bought for it!
Where do I find this bearing upgrade?.
@@tommyarchuleta2405 You can find it on Amazon. "LaTrax bearings" should get you there.
Yup amazon or your local hobby shop.
on my rally i flipped the wheels and it handles alot better that way
Thanks for the tip.
What pinion did you use?
Just the stock one!
@@RoadsideRC I think I ordered the wrong one lol. This is def bigger than stock. Will fit with a lil mod.
It should! There is adjustment in the motor mount.
One guy on youtube had rhe same .otor and escand his was hooked up same as yours same colors matched up and itvwas running in reverse he had to switch red to peach color to red to blue peach to blue and he picked up like 8 or 10 mph because motor was running in reverse
Thanks for the tip!
I had the same problem. Need to swap the blue and orange.
Hello 3s Lipo?
This is just on a 2S lipo.
Needs a bigger pinion like 23t
That would be faster!
im pretty sure that the motor isnt gonna effect it it would probably be gearing and voltage :)
The motors certainly can have an impact on speed!
A 3000kv motor vs a 4000kv motor would have a noticable difference in speed.
@@RoadsideRC well ya thats true completely forgot about that i come from an fpv drone stuff so thats a very important thing forgot lol
switch two of the wires that's why its going so slow (orange and yellow)
Thanks for the tip.
hello 3s lipo?
Ha! That would be crazy!
@@RoadsideRC oui mais est ce que la variateur le support ?
Nice machine.
Put bigger road tyres in the back.
🚗👍
Interesting idea!
Since it is 4WD, I guess the transmission would not like that...
Roadside RC not to big, just I little bigger 😉
There is not clutches or transmission so that would be a bad idea all the way around..
Put a Lipo battery in it
It was running a lipo for this video.
Put a 3s bro
It is already uncontrollable on 2S!
I'm sorry I got to see your videos so late the reason your car is not faster the motor is reversed for some reason you have to switch the yellow and the orange or something if you put your car in Reverse you will notice it is much faster in reverse then forward you have to switch the polarity on the motor your RC car will be much faster than glad I could help
Unfortunately, the car was not faster in reverse.
I know why you’re motor kept getting hot. It’s because you probably changed your pending gear and spar gear but if not, you’re just flooring it all the time.
Those are some of the many possible answers, true.
Kid was like more speed.
Ha! Yes.