Pro-Ject Debut Carbon EVO Turntable Review!
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This video is on a brand new turntable from Pro-Ject, the Debut Carbon EVO. The new EVO model is the latest of an ever-evolving world-class turntable from Europe’s Pro-Ject Audio Systems. Like all Pro-Ject turntables, the Debut Carbon EVO is a manual, belt-drive turntable. This means you need to flip a switch to start things up, move the tonearm over the record, lower the cue lever, then raise the cue lever when the record ends. This is how almost 95% of turntables made today are designed as there is no need to put a bunch of gears and parts under the tonearm which could reduce the performance. Pro-Ject has usually offered a large range of color choices on some of their turntables and that tradition continues with the EVO being available in 7 different beautiful finishes. Pro-Ject builds many turntables that cost multi-thousands of dollars and like the previous models, the EVO is built to those same standards. Fit and finish is just top-notch, as is the box it comes packed in. Taking the EVO out of the box is a very easy process with all of the parts extremely well packed.
The color choices, which by the way get an 8 coat lacquer finish, offer up high gloss black, white and red; satin black, white, fir green, golden yellow, and steel blue; plus a beautiful satin walnut finish. Pro-Ject recently introduced a new line of turntables in the X series which are much more expensive than the Debut range. From the looks of it, they took a lot of the tech from the X1 and filtered it down into the new EVO. Let’s look at some of this new tech. The three feet are height adjustable and made from a combination of a thermoplastic elastomer and aluminum. Pro-Ject uses the elastomer called TPE in many of their upper-end turntables and we can verify, it does an awesome job at damping out resonances. The feet are also pretty large in diameter giving the table a very stable base.
The tonearm is a one-piece carbon fiber design. This is one beautiful tonearm with zero play in its special sapphire tonearm bearings. Pro-Ject could not really find a way to improve this arm, so it's the same as the DC version. Sumiko, the US importer of Pro-Ject, had been working on a new line of phono cartridges for years. They wanted something that was a great value from a cost/performance standpoint. Sumiko worked with a team of engineers in Yokohama, Japan to develop a whole new line up a couple of years ago. These new Oyster cartridges all have a new anti-resonant body and a special new generator system. They sound fantastic and have received tons of positive press around the world. One thing we love about the line is the first three models have an interchangeable stylus, so you can effectively start out with the entry-level Rainier, and should you wish when your stylus wears out and needs replacing, buy the stylus for a more expensive model and greatly improve your sound.
The new EVO comes with the Rainier model mounted and aligned and we see many people opting to upgrade to the highly regarded Moonstone when it's time for a new stylus. We feel the Rainier is a pretty decent performance improvement over the Ortofon Red supplied with the DC model. Wiring inside the carbon fiber arm is a high purity copper with a separate shield that is one piece all the way to the very solid gold plated rear-mounted RCA jacks. The Connect-E cable is included with the EVO. This is a pretty serious RCA cable with great internal materials and is the same one supplied with their more expensive turntables. Pro-ject even compared different lengths and decided that 1.23 meters sounded the best. While the separate cable allows you to upgrade things later, this cable is very good.
We have to say, after about an hour of listening to the new EVO with the Rainier, we feel this is one heck of an easy to listen to rig. Compared to more expensive tables it is lacking in very deep bass impact and it's not as dynamic as some $1000-$1500 tables, but geez, it's one incredible bargain for the price. The sound is never harsh, it tracks great, and just makes you want to pull out more records, always a winning combination! This table is simple to set up, easy to listen to and will get you really involved in the music. And we have saved the best part for last. Should you pick up an EVO and start really getting into vinyl, this table has several optional upgrades you can do to make it perform even better than it does right out of the box. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
That video was phenomenal. It answered all my questions and more. Very happy that you guys are the ones I bought my first turntable setup through!
Thanks very much, we appreciate your support! We hope you enjoy your new turntable.
Great looking turntable, with a great price tag! I really like that dampening ring that they added. I love that Sumiko cartridge that it comes with. Have a great day!
I can’t say enough good things about the team at AA. They were invaluable when I wanted to replace my system, assisting with the purchase process, installation, and fielding numerous questions after the sale. (Yes, I went for a PJ TT. Love it.) They will get all of my AV business going forward.
Thank you i think i will get this one very soon need to look into the up grades eventually
I have a nice TT already but this thing is so pretty. I want to buy it just because. The color range is really cool too. Would look great in a family room or living room or something like that.
I love my debut carbon! This looks like a great model too. I would love to get a second turntable for playing mono records. Maybe this one fits the bill. 🤔
Man, Leon. Might have to change my system upgrade plan and get back into vinyl a bit earlier than expected!
I need this in Satin Green 😍 I'll be coming from an AT-LP120XUSB
I always laugh when people suggest that fully automatic turntables have "reduced performance" vis-a-vis manual turntables. Yet nobody has ever said exactly how this might happen or shown any sort of evidence that it does happen.
Looks like they made some nice upgrades!
How well do the new Oyster series handle IGD? That's a concern to me because I rip a lot of vinyl to my computer, and you can't get a nude and/or line contact stylus without buying the Amethyst because supposedly the stylus from that won't fit the other three lower models.
I've had mine for about 6 months now and have put a lot of hours on it. It is a great turntable indeed.
Thanks for sharing!
Would you get this or fluance rt85
Beautiful table
Love that blue teint ! I'd wish music hall mmf2.3 comes with this colour
The EVO colors are great, thanks for watching
My project TT is twenty yrs old and I love it Still can't hear anything when running platter on original motor and belt may replace with new evo with ortofon bronze cartridge 😊
That is great to hear! Happy listening!
Great video AA. I have small question. Is new TPE Aluminum platter better than acrylic?
The acrylic should be an upgrade over the TPE aluminum. Thanks for watching!
@@AudioAdvice thanks for you quick answer. I really appreciate that. Im still wondering between debut carbon epsrit sb and EVO, which one should I go with? any suggestion, AA?
This unit sounds like the best thing since sliced bread. Would a metal sub-platter have been better and would it increase the cost of this turntable significantly?
Pro-Ject offers upgrades. You can fit a precision higher-mass aluminum subplatter and also an acrylic platter if you so desire.
The motor has always been the weak point in the Pro-Ject Debut series and one that always frustrated the hell out of me. It could be very noisy at times, giving a notable low-end buzzing sound that could never be removed. It's a welcome relief that this issue has finally been addressed with the Evo. I am hoping that this new motor design solves those problems. The new feet and platter designs are also welcome additions, and the Sumiko cartridge could be a nice improvement over the budget Ortofon.
I really need to hear this deck in action. It could be the best Debut yet.
Looking to get a turntable. Living in Stockholm. Went to a store today where with my budget they recommended Rega planar 2 or Pro-Ject debut carbon EVO, paired with a preamp and then either elac debut 2.0 or debut reference speakers. Is there a clear winner here or are they both good options?
What did you purchase in the end?
I saw on Amazon and Turntable Lab, there is an electronic speed change? where is the bottom?
It is the little switch on the lower left corner
I was getting a cart together of some vinyl albums I'd want to buy along with my first turntable. I've only chosen around 15 albums and the total is like $500, lol. Yeah, I think I'm gonna stick to FLAC for now.
Wow you chose some very expensive ones, have you checked out Discogs? Its a great marketplace. Thanks for watching
I've heard Pro-ject's "Acrylic It" upgrade doesn't fit properly on this turntable. Any idea if that is true?
There is more than one version of the platter, the correct one fits fine. Thanks for watching
It looks a lot of turntable for the money. No doubt the Pro-ject bashers will find plenty to fault even without trying the thing out.
Is such hate common? Why do some have a strong reaction against Pro-ject?
Hello. Is it hard to change the cartridge for this model? Thanks
Not at all, pretty easy. Thanks for watching
Hi. What optional future upgrades would you recommend for this tt? Thanks
I'd say cork mat and a 2M Blue if your outside the US (I'm in Ireland)
@@andymill32 thanks
I like good quality deep bass, will a project phono preamp and a sub fill this “shortcoming” of this turntable?
It has great deep bass for its price, we were comparing to much more expensive turntables when we made that statement. But with that said, you can not create something that is not there. Please feel free to reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to discuss your whole system. Thanks for watching.
Hey there!!! Great video!!!!
I am new to collecting records and I just wanted to ask for some help.
I have a budget of around 2300$.
If I decide to buy this turntable can you help me and tell me what else i need to buy to complete the set for the budget I have?
I am assuming that speakers aside I will need a phono preamp as well?
Anyway, I am looking forward to your feedback and many thanks in advance.
P.S I am not interested in buying second-hand equipment.
Wow, what an endorsement this video was. Food for thought.
It is a great turntable!
@@AudioAdvice your advice is very helpful. At only $100 more, I struggle between this and the Rega P2, another favorite of yours. I can't decide.
@@GrotrianSeiler Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com for more information.
This one or a Fluance RT85 as an upgrade from an AT LP-60? 🤔
We feel the EVO has a lot more tech, we also found out today prices are rising on these after Aug 23, probably 10%. Thanks for watching
Was just about to buy a Planar 2 but this has me sold, looks like a fantastic table at 500 euros here in Ireland
I'm still undecided myself between the two, you may share your thoughts if you get a chance I'd appreciate it.. And overall general experience buying here in ireland.. Thanks
@@irisheyes0058 Hi I love the Evo, read the reviews all great, but put a 2M Blue stylus on it straight away and it will sound fantastic with a good amp, preamp and speakers
@@andymill32 thanks man sound advice
Do you need a speaker to use the turn table?
Yes, you need a speaker, and an amplifier with a phono preamp. Thanks for watching
How does it compare to the Rega planar one ?
@@PaxKishania Or even a comparison with the P2?
@@elmhurst86 I chose this over a Planar 2, with the Planar 2 its harder to upgrade cartridges, you can't adjust its legs and you have to remove platter to change the speed also it comes with great changeable rca cables unlike the non removable Planar.
@@andymill32 All excellent reasons to choose it over the P2. Congrats!
@@andymill32 I had the exact same question as I have it narrowed down to
Either the Rega P 1 or 2 and the Project Debut Carbon Evo. Looks like the Evo it is!
I’m really interested to get this turntable here in France but it’s almost impossible to find. Is it because it was released very recently ? Several retailers are selling the DC model but not the EVO yet. I wonder how long it will last before it starts to pop up. Also, the official website says it comes with an Ortofon 2M Red cartridge, I don't understand why some people say it comes with the Sumiko Ranier cartridge.
Sumiko in States only, Red everywhere else, loads available in Ireland and UK, I love mine, got a 2m Blue for it and it's amazing sounding, you won't be disappointed, email or contact Pro-Ject on social media for availability?
Andy Millea Thanks for the reply. Yes I saw that the Sumiko is USA only. I don’t understand honestly, apparently it’s a better cartridge, and Pro-Ject is a european company. I wonder why the hell they favored the american market. I intend to buy my Pro-Ject Debut Carbon EVO in November so hopefully by then several stores will have some available. May I ask what speakers and preamp you use with yours ? I intend to go for the Pro-Ject Phono Box E and use my Marshall Stanmore 2 that has amazing sound I think.
Hi, I am using an Onkyo 9010 UK amp, Q Acoustics 3020i speakers and the Pro-Ject Phono MM, our house is small so we don't have much space but the sound is fantastic, especially with the 2m Blue stylus
Love my 17 yr old project turntable with sumika cartridge My records.never sounded better..
Now I need To watch your speaker video's to know what speakers to buy.
There ya go! We have quite a few.
Great review, this just radiates with passion and knowledge. I'm looking into getting a turntable, and this is way above my spending for a first one, but it's still great seeing videos like these! If anyone has a good recommendation (200-300$), please feel free :)
Linn Axis from Ebay.
I bought the Rainier for my son's original Debut Carbon. Big improvement, IMHO. This is quite a nice set of improvements for a Benjamin. And that blue is rather gorgeous.
improvement over Red 2m?
Too my ears fuller, better balanced, larger soundstage. More "analog" sounding. I found the Red fatiguing, perhaps similar to a speaker where the upper midrange-lower treble is just too hot.
@@leonardblush2557 Right on. I have the 2m blue on my project debut carbon espirit now. Really interested to see/hear how much better this would sound.
I imagine Blue vs Rainier is more a matter of taste. The $200 Sumiko Olympia would probably be the better head-to-head comparison candidate.
@Reid Smith
Sang the Star Spangled Banner at the opening of the County Insecticide Convention.
Big time.
Hello, Is here somebody, who is able compare this turntable with Debut Carbon Esprit ? Which is better ? According to me, my opinion is, that glass platter is better solution but i'm not sure. Can you help me with choice ?
Thanks.
Regards from Czech Republic.
The EVO is better IMO, adjustable legs, quiet motor which is very important, the new platter on it is great, not resonant, overall I think its better than the Esprit.
Also from Pro-Ject Audio Systems official FB page: "The Debut Carbon EVO has a new 1.7kg heavy TPE damped steel platter. You could still get the acrylic platter as an accessory, but quality wise the new damped, heavy steel platter is above the acrylic platter. The acrylic platter has the advantage of not needing a felt mat, generating less static than a felt mat and of course the looks."
I went for the Esprit over the EVO because of the acrylic platter. I can not compare it to the EVO, but I love my Esprit.
I need to buy the Eliminator lp. 🤩
I had a turntable that had that cheesy anti-skating setup and always seemed to cause me problems, no more of that for me.
Yeah that's true. I have a rega p1 and it's anti skate is not that good. Some records even though it's clean it sometimes skips or jumps. So enough of these kind of turntable. Better go with Technics or the audio Technica tables with a dedicated Anti skate adjustments.
That Anti-skate isn't cheesy it's actually the optimal way of doing it, the skating forces increase as you travel towards the centre of rotation (the spindle in this case), therefore you need higher anti-skating as the stylus tracks the inner grooves. With this weighted anti-skate gravity causes greater down forces as the weight raises, thus increasing anti-skate in accordance to the increased skate forces. This is the proper way to have accurate anti-skate as magnetic anti-skate is fixed at a specific force as as such will more often lead to greater inner groove distortion and greater wearing of the outer walls of the grooves. :)
@3:53 - "....a feature like this $10 in microchips is UNHEARD OF at this price point..."
Do these have Bluetooth capabilities?
Sorry, it does not. Thanks for watching
Does it have a built in pre-amp?
It does not. Thanks for watching
Having the on/off switch underneath is defiantly a bad idea, trying to find it then push it will only nudge the turntable to one side. 3 feet for support sounds good but in practice the whole unit tips easy.
Ok just ordered this and I was shopping for an amp.
You will enjoy the table, hopefully its coming from Audio Advice :) Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice Sorry to say, no. but I just called you guy's about a new amp. the Rega Elex-R please put me in line for one to replace the Sansui. I'm told they would call me back.
@@AudioAdvice You got me got the 1590 and the mk2 amp
Fuck it. I'm getting it.
Go for it!
After 5 months have you liked it?
@Carlos Barraza Yeah! I love it. I have it plugged into some Kantos YU6.
I like Pro-Ject's turntables, but I wish they would brand them a little more. Just the company's name on the plinth would be great.
@@wc6046 Ok, well now you have. I'm not asking for a lot. Just the name of the Company or the model. They actually DO brand some of their tables like the Debut III S and their Essential line. Not to mention their electronics. I find Rega's branding is great. I wish Pro-Ject would do the same.
@Reid Smith I totally get that and I understand that is their philosophy. At the end of the day, the quality of the turntable is all that matters.
I have purchased many turntables in the last year and a half, from Music Hall, Audio Technica and even Crosley belt drive tables. The Music Hall is an over price hunk of plastic, very microphony, the Audio Technical is similar and has an odd headshell. Crosley seemed promising, but the anti-skate did not work. All have a noisey motor / belt transport, all do not run consistently on speed.I purchased the Carbon EVO as I have an older Project RPM 6 that is practically perfect. The Carbon EVO has a noticable low whirry sound and that is disappointing! For $600 this item should be dead quiet! I had a Pioneer PL10 belt drive turntable for 35 years that I accidently dropped a decade ago, thus the purchase of the RPM6, it was dead quiet. After 50 years we can't make stuff that runs on speed! The Pioneer was $100 with a Grado cart back in 1975!
Overall ok, but I am not truly happy with the state of so-called mid priced turntables.
Rory- it is possible your EVO was shipped upside down (it happens all the time) and the motor bearing had oil leak out. If you purchased it from Audio Advice, we can send you a syringe of motor oil, if not Pro-Ject does sell vials of their motor oil. We did a video on how to put it in a Rega motor, but the same holds for a Pro-Ject www.audioadvice.com/videos-reviews/rega-turntable-tips-and-tricks/ Thanks for watching
Did this suggest above my post fix your issue with the Carbon EVO?
I want to know how many people swap their cartridge and basically ruin their entire setup for that "rare occasion" where they feel like spinning a 78 RPM... this never happens, right? :)
don't use it to play 78s without a suitable stylus designed for them, otherwise you'll fuck the sumiko up
This is a fantastic sales video. But please don’t call it a review, because that’s just misleading.
Greetings Szymon! We appreciate your point that this was a super positive review. A few points we should have made. First, the EVO turntable is simply best of breed in terms of turntables, and it really stands out. The second point is that for every review we do, there are dozens of products we don't put out videos on. In other words, we simply don't waste people's time with reviews and comparisons on products that we don't believe in. The third point is that our individual reviews are where we dive deeper into any of the negatives if there are any to call out. Link to the full-written review is here: www.audioadvice.com/pro-ject-debut-carbon-evolution-turntable Thanks for watching!
@@AudioAdvice Fair enough, I might have misjudged you. Thanks!
Replace what?
Hi Brandon. There was a previous Debut Carbon model the review referenced that this one evolved from. Hoe this helps and thanks for watching.
I still own and use one of the very first Project turntables, the Project one. Back then it bore the name Remy A. Thorens Project one. It,s over 35 years old and still working fine. The only problem that showed up after some time was that the metal platter deformed. I replaced it with a acrylic one. Problem solved but it shoud not have happend. I mounted a Linn cartridge and having no complains at all.
Thanks for sharing!
Can you add an upgrade of a USB port to this turntable?
Not yet
@@martyloso6433 thank you.
Can not beat my 1229
On the other hand you can only put so many records on it
The Automat will play one record at a time.
Turntable in this video does not look as nice as the original Debut Carbon DC. Missing is high gloss black and the nice Red Needle. "The Look" is a prime reason why so many went for the original.
High gloss is passe.
@@bard4055 Well,..I AM Passé!!!!
@@20thcenturyboy85 The sound for the price is number one reason most people are into turntables not the look, I have this for the last 10 days and love it, sounds great.
@@andymill32 Perhaps, but one SHOULD have THE LOOK combined with Amazing Sound. I had various top of the line turntables decades back but these were so ugly that I got tired of looking at them. Life is to be enjoyed with one's full aesthetic senses. No reason and silly not to strive for full pleasure....
If YOU Love it then that is really all that really matters...
An embarrassing product, little more than a toy. Just a few months after the warranty expired, and used no more than 3 or 4 times a week, the motor started making a distinctly audible noise. This seems to be a common issue, as discussed on various forums. Pro-Ject is anything but pro. A big disappointment.
Sorry you had trouble. Did you reach out to your dealer for help? They are usually good at customer service.
That wire assembly looks sketchy. Pass
More like goldenrod...ewww
Dude... you standing there with your hands dancing around in front of you, CONSTANTLY, was very annoying. Can't you talk without holding your hands out in front of you? I mean, what's the point in that? Very weird. Put your hands down.
What the fuck?? Lol
Oh quiet you pillock. Go outside and let sun hit your face and go have a conversation with someone with your hands in your pockets.
didn't you ever talk to someone that was Italian , hand movement while talking is very common