No Backlight? No Problem - Sun Vision rE reflective LCD Display

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    0:00 Intro
    1:18 What the heck is this?
    3:07 Outdoors Experience
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    9:02 A weird choice
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  • @WilliamOgden
    @WilliamOgden หลายเดือนก่อน +4501

    As a live audio engineer, I could see this being useful. Most functions on modern digital consoles are part of the screen. When we do outdoor festivals, it is very difficult to see the display. Even with a tent or canopy the display can be unusable.

    • @MrPruske
      @MrPruske หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      🎉

    • @PendragonDaGreat
      @PendragonDaGreat หลายเดือนก่อน +260

      I do live audio as well, I'd love to see a hybrid display like this. Where it has a front light like a Kindle e-reader or that other e-ink display they mentioned. That way it can simulate sunlight (I guess like a GBA-SP). Because agreed outdoor midday shows absolutely impossible at times. But once the sun goes down, or if you're doing an indoor show, the Achilles heel of "needs light to function" becomes apparent, and the little goosenecks on most desks may not be enough. Just add a toggle near the screen so you can turn on the light when needed, or turn it off when you don't.

    • @Rararawr
      @Rararawr หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      Still seems like an incomplete solution for that. Once it gets dark, or even the sun no longer in a position to reflect off the monitor at you, you're just gonna need a different display.

    • @WilliamOgden
      @WilliamOgden หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@PendragonDaGreat yeah I think you have the right idea here It would need to be some sort of hybrid solution

    • @blairhoughton7918
      @blairhoughton7918 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Yeah this is for functional usage, not high fidelity creative graphic stuff. There's probably a way to adapt it to automotive displays with a complementary light for when the sun isn't on it.

  • @fozzylozzy1131
    @fozzylozzy1131 หลายเดือนก่อน +1641

    It handles sunlight better than 90% of reddit mods

    • @elgoblinospark2949
      @elgoblinospark2949 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ikr

    • @kbhasi
      @kbhasi หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yep!
      (thinks about when my post got removed and the moderator refused to explain why beyond the name of the rule they clicked on)

    • @mopman9264
      @mopman9264 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      only 90% ?!

    • @Gobbbbb
      @Gobbbbb หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You're being too generous.

    • @YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments
      @YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@kbhasiI got banned for hate speech when I said nothing at all. It was eventually overturned but yeah, get banned for absolutely nothing !

  • @tipeton
    @tipeton หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Dude doesn't understand how much outdoor workers need this. Same for ads could be seen during the wouldn't emit light at night. And as other people said remote working in your garden, terrasse, balcony, patio or at the beach...
    My wife would have love that screen last week.

  • @SplotchyInk
    @SplotchyInk หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    Honestly, I've done a lot of fabrication stuff, I can totally see this being really useful.
    There are a ton of various outdoor events, worksites, and even just general inspections in which having a Nuk style computer hooked up to one of these screens connected via an extension cord would be absolutely amazing for just general diagnostics.
    ((Also there's a bunch of fishing events that record all their weights on the computer and I always see them just bending over squinting at the screen as they try and see it))

    • @nimmawibba9874
      @nimmawibba9874 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes but charging 1500 to essentially remove features and only be 1080p+60hz is genuinely outrageous

  • @nickrreese
    @nickrreese หลายเดือนก่อน +1198

    Useful for outdoor events if you need an admin desk for accounting, sign-ins for attendees, and payment processing

    • @metaleuman
      @metaleuman หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      A 32 inch screen ?

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      But then it would be more useful on a tablet, ideally a waterproof one.

    • @richardprice5978
      @richardprice5978 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      car's dashboard as i don't always want back-lighting and or blindingly senter but also don't see the need in the modern era for 20 mechanical gages anymore other than for fantasy design as functional can be handled better with minimal gages+buttons and screen's

    • @Dlutheran
      @Dlutheran หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@richardprice5978yeah but what about at night?

    • @TheOriginalFaxon
      @TheOriginalFaxon หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Also for the audio-video engineers. someone has to manage the projection maps and the DSP mixer on the audio stack at your festival, even during the daytime.

  • @StackOfPancakes2216
    @StackOfPancakes2216 หลายเดือนก่อน +2342

    Me when the video started: "So it's a GameBoy?"
    The video 2 seconds later: "Yep, it's a GameBoy"

    • @user-ec3rm9wr1n
      @user-ec3rm9wr1n หลายเดือนก่อน

      😩😒

    • @saysbadman
      @saysbadman หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      GameBoy Color!

    • @Runslik3Wind
      @Runslik3Wind หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      lol same here, was like oh its a gameboy cool.
      people forget how viewable the gbc was when sitting out in the yard.

    • @weeveferrelaine6973
      @weeveferrelaine6973 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@Runslik3Wind And the battery life was wild. You could take shitty alkaline batteries and game for hundreds of hours on them. So much of my childhood was spent with my waiting times at the buss stop or sneaking some pokemon play at night on my GBC (which I still have). Really incredible tech and games for the time, that are still fairly impressive.

    • @ClassicGamer2996
      @ClassicGamer2996 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought the same

  • @seraeo8226
    @seraeo8226 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I worked in Ag-Tech for years, and man, I wish I had a display like this for all my readouts in the field. Would've mad e a huge difference when giving demos and pretty much all the other work I had to do from my truck.

  • @leumgui
    @leumgui หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    10:20 goddamn, I spit out my breakfast

  • @hansdampf2776
    @hansdampf2776 หลายเดือนก่อน +2099

    the only screen where a lightbar makes sense!

    • @deswill2737
      @deswill2737 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      a lightbar makes sense either way since it lights up your desk and uses less power than lighting the room

    • @CanIHasThisName
      @CanIHasThisName หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      Lightbars are designed in such a way that they don't hit the screen. So they're useless for this.

    • @TheHammerGuy94
      @TheHammerGuy94 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      @@CanIHasThisNameLinus has always thought they were stupid since "Why would you want to light up the screen when it already has a backlight???"
      well, they are actually Desk lights that use your monitor as the mount. they are supposed to light up the desk.
      and give your eyes less strain as they brighten your desk space in general.
      But you can angle them to also point at the screen if you want.

    • @CanIHasThisName
      @CanIHasThisName หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@TheHammerGuy94 I'm aware, it took quite a while for someone to finally explain it to him (haven't seen him make that remark in a long while, so I'm assuming someone did). To be fair though, many people have the same misconception, so it's not a difficult mistake to make.
      And he still has a point that they're ridiculously expensive even considering the specific temperature, especially since most of them only illuminate the front, not the back (shining a light at the wall behind the monitor is often the most effective way of preventing eye strain).

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @CanIHasThisName lol, I too thought they were for lighting up the screen 😅
      And yeah, I agree, lighting up the wall behind the monitor is great (probably better to prevent eye strain. I have a RGB strip on the back of my desk that lights up the wall. I installed it for looks (and because it was left over from a previous project), but it I quickly noticed that it really makes computing in the dark more comfortable.

  • @BBROPHOTO
    @BBROPHOTO หลายเดือนก่อน +378

    Actual use case - live events, like music festivals where sound and lighting techs need to see screens. Also, astrophotographers who do a lot of solar imaging - that's something I personally do and seeing the screen is one of the hardest parts about doing it.

    • @willofthewind
      @willofthewind หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      I work in live events and second this... but it would need to also have a backlight that could be enabled during dark conditions to really be worth using.

    • @oldbuddyolpal9859
      @oldbuddyolpal9859 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Audio engineer isn't going to want to sit in the sun

    • @kretieg
      @kretieg หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have a custom 16" Dobsonian. The nosebleed cost of tunable Ha filters under 4 angstrom keeps me confined to nighttime use. That's fine. Galaxy's, clusters bot spherical and open, planets, moons. Yes. Moons.

    • @BBROPHOTO
      @BBROPHOTO หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kretieg haha yes, Ha scopes / tuneable filters are crazy expensive. I generally only do deep sky with a newtonian monochrome camera setup. I only do casual white light solar imaging which is good fun, but the difficulties of seeing the screen are still very real.

    • @calebjonathan25
      @calebjonathan25 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@willofthewind At 12:12, he explains that frontlighting is available on SVD's outdoor signage -- just not included on the monitor due to customer preference.

  • @the_rustydoornob1164
    @the_rustydoornob1164 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    10:27 bruh who wrote THAT joke I didn’t expect that anywhere 💀💀💀💀

    • @Supervhizor
      @Supervhizor หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      the ghost of anthony

    • @battalionstallion3894
      @battalionstallion3894 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      emily
      or jake
      or any of their friends on the writing team

    • @Titin5123
      @Titin5123 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Someone who doesn't live in Florida or even the US

    • @MajorasWrath1
      @MajorasWrath1 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      ​@@Titin5123I live in the USA and they're right.

  • @BrettCarlsen
    @BrettCarlsen หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    I mean this to be constructive, as someone who watches all your videos on a tv with surround sound or computer with reference speakers and subwoofer. Can you please apply a high pass filter, often you guys have some errant low frequencies bouncing around, this video has it around 5 minutes (wind on the lavalier I'm sure). Love your channel

    • @tschuuuls486
      @tschuuuls486 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You probably should email them and ask for the email to be forwarded, if you care enough :D

  • @stratosvomvos
    @stratosvomvos หลายเดือนก่อน +500

    OLED, nah I have SUNLED

    • @Gamepadder
      @Gamepadder หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

    • @Nate-bd8fg
      @Nate-bd8fg หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "LED" stands for Light Emitting Display. So maybe SRD? Sun reflecting display?

    • @Pib31995
      @Pib31995 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@Nate-bd8fg LED stands for Light Emitting Diode

    • @Nate-bd8fg
      @Nate-bd8fg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Pib31995 ah shit you rite

    • @stratosvomvos
      @stratosvomvos หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did this comment get 340 likes, my whole channel got 23 ( wut)

  • @alexkoehn5036
    @alexkoehn5036 หลายเดือนก่อน +462

    Due to ultraviolet dyes mixed in, the sheet of paper actually "reflects" more (visible) light than initially hit it. The dye converts some invisible light into visible light, so you see more light.

    • @Shaflugi
      @Shaflugi หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      That's rad.

    • @lua-nya
      @lua-nya หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      That explains how stupidly white that paper is.

    • @JinKee
      @JinKee หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do we get so many bullets in them? Like this! Plus, we fire the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet. This is the same technology we've been using on robots for decades. Scares the hell out of them. They come in hundreds of designer colors including forest, desert, table, evening at the improv... what idiot picked the...

    • @ganzeige
      @ganzeige หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      So you are basically saying, the display would be brighter under sunlight, if theyd had used a sheet of paper as their reflective layer?

    • @comeradecoyote
      @comeradecoyote หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Optical brighteners strike again

  • @ingenarelitems
    @ingenarelitems หลายเดือนก่อน +220

    10:24 ain't no way he said that

    • @djnazgra
      @djnazgra หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      But he did. Lol

    • @Ferno209
      @Ferno209 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      I laughed so hard when he said it cause its true! Florida is next level stupid

    • @ARandomInternetUser08
      @ARandomInternetUser08 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kieraisverybored speak for yourself, 🤡🤡

    • @osborne3
      @osborne3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Ferno209 Probably don't want books on leftist illusions about gender, directed towards kids. But still shouldn't be banned from public libraries, if that's the case.

    • @MannyHaarp
      @MannyHaarp หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I almost spat my coffee in laughter

  • @leneal2315
    @leneal2315 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    lmao the "dissapear faster than a book about gender in a Florida library" caught me off guard :3

    • @Rainbow_Atlas
      @Rainbow_Atlas หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Really did xD

  • @Huebz
    @Huebz หลายเดือนก่อน +368

    4:16 I'ts really funny to note that aside from text it "doesn't look that good" when, in that lighting, it looks about 1000x better than the monitor right next to it because you can actually see it clearly.

    • @zen6591
      @zen6591 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      he clarifies that in 20 seconds

  • @Makerr8
    @Makerr8 หลายเดือนก่อน +341

    Another use case for a monitor like this could be on job sites that use BIM software. Contractors on site can get updated drawings that are displayed on a computer monitor that typically needs to be in a dim area so they can be read. This display could help make those drawing stations more accessible on job sites.

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      But that's more what their original signage monitors would be ideal for, given they're waterproof and presumably built to take a beating. I just can't figure how this kind of screen in a traditional monitor package is useful.

    • @a-aron2276
      @a-aron2276 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Updated drawings😂😂 good one!!

    • @bakto2122
      @bakto2122 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you work with BIM? I don't really work in the field, but have heard a bit about it (mostly from my dad who works on civil engineering projects). From what I've heard it seems like unneeded complexity without any benefit. I would love to hear someone's opinion who actually works with BIM.

    • @Makerr8
      @Makerr8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@bakto2122 from what I have seen (architecture side) its only used by firms who have all of their consultants already using revit/BIM so it makes sense or if there is a project that is very complicated and needs better coordination between the structural engineer's drawings and the MEP's drawings. Other than that its not used much because it costs too much to have everyone on board.

    • @Roko-jb5hl
      @Roko-jb5hl หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Some company made an RLCD android tablet not long ago,
      . That would perfect for job sites.

  • @jrcat2258
    @jrcat2258 หลายเดือนก่อน +89

    This monitor means that I can now sit outside to take my meetings instead of sitting inside in a dark cube all day. It's a bit pricey, but if it gets any cheaper I'll buy one for sure. Imagine having one of these at the beach

    • @knabbagluon
      @knabbagluon หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      this. I don't understand how nobody here seems to want this. I really hate working so much in the dark when outside is nice weather.

    • @calebjonathan25
      @calebjonathan25 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is an excellent use case! The RLCD monitor opens some big doors for people who want to bring their office outside to bright environs where backlit tech is very limited.

    • @comeradecoyote
      @comeradecoyote หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats honestly not a half bad idea. Outdoor office. Idk how comfortable the display would be in some lighting conditions. But slap your pc on a cart or stand, with an outlet strip, monitor, and webcam, and you could work in the backyard easily. Or a screened in porch.
      Kinda reminds me how some writers used to take their typewriter out on a nice day. They even offered typewriter cases with tripods, for working while travelling or at baseball games or w/e.

    • @Gorlami90
      @Gorlami90 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Who takes a pc to the beach?

    • @tobihalo2
      @tobihalo2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You don't bring your gaming PC to the beach??​@@Gorlami90

  • @syamprasaddokka
    @syamprasaddokka หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I "Finally" Understand why Benq makes those display top-down lights.

  • @ChrisClark1999
    @ChrisClark1999 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    This would be great for saving battery in a laptop when outside, but you'd also want the option to toggle a backlight for inside

    • @Crand0m
      @Crand0m หลายเดือนก่อน

      I need this with usb-c output

    • @iurigrang
      @iurigrang หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was thinking about a toggleable backlight, but this probably has to be calibrated such that the image looks right when passing through the color filters twice, which would make the backlight image washed out when compared to the reflected image. This probably would make contrast still highly dependent on ambient light

    • @aebisdecunter
      @aebisdecunter หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The problem is in the diffusion layers. This monitor is dimm already in everything but daylight, so adding several another layers would make unusable even in overcast. As I see it, you either have RLCD with *front* light or you'd need a switchable diffusion or mirror layers. Another option is to go with Quantum dots, since they could convert the light from the front and from the back.

    • @Dr.Spatula
      @Dr.Spatula หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Backlight? Build a front light into the bottom of the laptop

    • @CromulentEmbiggening
      @CromulentEmbiggening หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or a frontlight toggle like the first GBA-SP

  • @noredine
    @noredine หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Playing a Horror game with a flashlight headband would be hilarious

  • @epaper_eink
    @epaper_eink หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've compiled a list of all 5 RLCD monitors out there. Great review btw. Love your enthusiasm.

  • @HedgehogY2K
    @HedgehogY2K หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Imagine a USB C powered display that lets you work with your laptop connected to it. That way you're prepared to edit an outside project.

  • @MrPruske
    @MrPruske หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    It would have been great to show an old game boy game emulated on it XD

    • @user-ec3rm9wr1n
      @user-ec3rm9wr1n หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well sigh .....

    • @Unknown_Genius
      @Unknown_Genius หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That'd 100% end worse.
      As much as I remember being annoyed that I did need light to use it, I definitely don't remotely remember it being that dark unless you were sitting next to tree in the shadow while the sun was almost entirely gone.

  • @AtomicOverdrive
    @AtomicOverdrive หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    I can see that type of display in say a laptop meant to be used outdoors, like construction areas. But only if it has the option for a back light when used indoors.

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Its just weird in a monitor form factor, like you said it makes more sense in a laptop or tablet, ideally a waterproof ruggedised one.

    • @stevecole90099
      @stevecole90099 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It would be great if they could pair this with a backlight to get the best of both. Imagine a smartphone that could just disable its backlight outside and still get 2000 nits on the screen while also improving battery life but still has the backlight for use when inside. Same for laptops, tablets, and handhelds.

    • @vadnegru
      @vadnegru หลายเดือนก่อน

      Something similar used in my Amazfit Bip. Problem is that not many colours are displayed. But i can confirm, it works both ways

    • @CromulentEmbiggening
      @CromulentEmbiggening หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or a frontlight like the GBA SP early model. I don't know if the reflective back is compatible with backlighting or it probably would've been done in the later GBA models

  • @algot34
    @algot34 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    9:47. However is it linearly polarized light that it reflects? Most people are sensetive to linear polarized light, not circular polarized light (that the sun emits). A regular LCD emits linear polarized light. I don't know exactly how the RLCD works.

  • @Vicente_Bravo
    @Vicente_Bravo 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This video suffers lower viewership, demonstrating TH-cam viewership means nothing, because this one was FANTASTIC. One of the best videos as of late.

  • @FabianTorres-pp8jn
    @FabianTorres-pp8jn หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    at 6:17 a wild Taran Appeared.... cool to see him around LTT videos even after that tearfull goodbye

    • @AltonV
      @AltonV หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It's a clip from an old video

    • @benjamin_lincoln
      @benjamin_lincoln หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AltonV 🤯🤯

    • @StFilip89
      @StFilip89 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha, I was looking for comment about Taran.

  • @0bamo0
    @0bamo0 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Now the light bar everyone putting on top of their screens makes so much more sense actually!

  • @NigelMelanisticSmith
    @NigelMelanisticSmith หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Glad LTT started reviewing eye care displays, since I always had wanted major reviews of them before buying mine. I use this and some E Ink screens to reduce eye strain, and in conjunction with Miebo, it's done wonders for my headaches. I use a nearby window to fully illuminate my screen. I do wish more of their major monitor reviews mentioned eye care however. It's hard to tell how much flicker and things like that can effect you with a normal monitor until you buy one.

  • @DJGeosmin
    @DJGeosmin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    as a sound engineer who does mainly outdoor festivals, I can see this being handy for daytime events.
    would be good for lighting too, but I normally am not doing fancy enough lights during daytime to need more monitors than whats built in to an MA

  • @supperKingofworld
    @supperKingofworld หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    The power of the sun IN THE PALM OF MY HANDS!

    • @Narinjas
      @Narinjas หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He can have a small dimmable projector at the right angle to have maximum control over this monitor... but i am a vampire so i never stay in the light...

    • @sethbingo
      @sethbingo หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ladies and gentlemen, fasten your seatbelts

  • @andrewvickers6847
    @andrewvickers6847 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    this would be perfect for outside shows in audio visual for computer system that are needed to control lighing and or audio where a reguler lcd would fail

  • @SuperJimBobJoe
    @SuperJimBobJoe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would be interested to see something like this combined with some kind of edge lighting for outdoor use. Feels like that could keep it usable in a lot of scenarios

  • @mm.786
    @mm.786 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    bad things: kind of sucks, good things: you are going to be able to use your eyes at age 50

  • @skelybrinegaming8497
    @skelybrinegaming8497 หลายเดือนก่อน +622

    “Makes greys disappear faster than a book about gender in a Florida library” damn, didn’t expect such hot topics to come out of ltt, still a funny joke

    • @donc-m4900
      @donc-m4900 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      10:19 Linus canceled in 3, 2, 1. Lol

    • @no_skcaj1038
      @no_skcaj1038 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Ltt is great

    • @Hakai_ryu
      @Hakai_ryu หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I would have spit my drink out if I had taken a sip right before then.

    • @sylvester4207
      @sylvester4207 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      What a fantastic joke lmaoo

    • @fab1604
      @fab1604 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Based DeSantis

  • @embedyt
    @embedyt หลายเดือนก่อน +384

    "the lack of contrast can make distinct shades of gray disappear faster than a book about gender in a florida library" holy SHIT linus

    • @Alex-zi1nb
      @Alex-zi1nb หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      epic joke

    • @sennevanopdorp2022
      @sennevanopdorp2022 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I heard this quote and omg

    • @moo5613
      @moo5613 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      HES SO REAL FOR THAT

    • @jooroth18
      @jooroth18 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      As a florida resident I almost spit out my drink when i heard that lmao

    • @emmaknijn
      @emmaknijn หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I love it

  • @bioboertuur
    @bioboertuur หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    want one!
    very difficult to read displays in the greenhouses without shade boxes. This would make that way more flexible.

  • @nicknorthcutt7680
    @nicknorthcutt7680 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is a tablet made with the same type of reflective LCD tech, but the cool thing is that along with the reflective LCD layer, it also has a layer of LEDs on top facing the panel so that it can be used indoors.

    • @TheAkashicTraveller
      @TheAkashicTraveller หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which is wierd to me because transflective LCDs exist, or existed not sure, which are both reflective and have a backlight.

    • @cj.wijtmans
      @cj.wijtmans หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheAkashicTraveller its probably not as good as a pure reflective layer. It will make more sense to put light on it from the front

  • @TheHammerGuy94
    @TheHammerGuy94 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Hey Linus!!!
    Those Light bars that point at the screen don't look silly now eh?

  • @bradweinberger6907
    @bradweinberger6907 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    "The customer is always right in regards to taste " is the proper qoute

    • @thehailey
      @thehailey หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If we're gonna get picky it's "right in matters of taste", and this would be a matter of taste where they want u to leave out expensive additional features and they still get charged the same

  • @KitBetts-Masters
    @KitBetts-Masters หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've covered this monitor a lot. I think you're right, it's just for text really.
    I must say, this is an excellent video, the testing is simply brilliant. GJ LTT.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, nice to see you here too!

  • @Perplexody
    @Perplexody หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This would make an amazing screen for a drone controller as well as the many other used mentioned in the comments. That's just one that immediately stood out to me

  • @JackJackDaBest
    @JackJackDaBest หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    10:25 is CRAZYYYYYY

    • @ARandomInternetUser08
      @ARandomInternetUser08 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Crazy political trash*

    • @HotdogSosage
      @HotdogSosage หลายเดือนก่อน

      Crazy is getting high on drugs and trying to eat people.
      This is just a sad attempt of forcing a weak political joke in

    • @CubanLegend561
      @CubanLegend561 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      i loled so hard

    • @Sn0wiss
      @Sn0wiss หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@ARandomInternetUser08 AKA a joke

    • @gaelenhammond5010
      @gaelenhammond5010 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I don’t think it’s political to say a joke about a thing that happens.

  • @THeMin1000
    @THeMin1000 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Finally rlcd got a mention, the main advantage for these panels is the reduced eye strain. Is amazing for long hours of text based work like as a dev this is really good

    • @NigelMelanisticSmith
      @NigelMelanisticSmith หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree. I work in Cyber Security and use this monitor to help with my eye strain.

    • @GMZLDK
      @GMZLDK หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      100% agree

    • @thehailey
      @thehailey หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      A normal LCD with a flicker-free low brightness setting is bout 10% of the price, but power to ya

    • @kuba_wasikowski
      @kuba_wasikowski หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have this monitor for 2 years and helped me a lot with eyestrain, well not this RE but previous version that has same panel

    • @JGnLAU8OAWF6
      @JGnLAU8OAWF6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it were able to reflect as much as even gray paper it would be great, but right now normal LCD with dialed in brightness would be a lot better.

  • @AyeAyeLtd
    @AyeAyeLtd หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This would be amazing for an outdoor video shoot. Sun everywhere, plus if it's just 6W you could theoretically power it off a little USB battery bank.

  • @Neojhun
    @Neojhun หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a defunct panel tech called PIXEL QI. It was used on the OLPC XO-1 and I had one on the Notion Ink Adam. Like this it was a reflective Colour LCD but it had a front light. In sunlight reflective mode only Gray Scale was visible even though it was a colour panel. Indoor mode with front light it was a decent quality colour LCD just mildly washed out low contrast. I think that was the best compromise as it was very general purpose applicable.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel หลายเดือนก่อน

      I miss that company too! I remember getting excited for the Adam because it means I can have tablet functionality everywhere, hiking, park, beach, anywhere. T-LCD and R-LCD are the best compromise between E-InK and LCD. Clover used their displays for outdoor laptops too. Eazeye could be in the right direction. They’re also using T-LCD.
      The low-power LCD tech of the e-paper pebble watches are also good. It’s also a great direction for tablets. No ghosting, excellent battery life, outdoor friendly, proven tech for 40+ years.

  • @Parsilious
    @Parsilious หลายเดือนก่อน +418

    10:20 Ohhhh nooo, you didn't Linus...

    • @itr00ow93
      @itr00ow93 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      they're laughing in Canadian probably :p

    • @Narcle0
      @Narcle0 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @jefmoesy
      @jefmoesy หลายเดือนก่อน +126

      Respect just went up x1000000👍😂

    • @Verchiel_
      @Verchiel_ หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      @@itr00ow93 they and the rest of the world are laughing at not being american.

    • @OGTrula
      @OGTrula หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good thing there is only smart people in the tech community.. oh wait

  • @daniwalmsley611
    @daniwalmsley611 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This seems like it be a really cool portable monitor technology. Being able to get some work done outdoors without having to find shade for your laptop, and if it gets cloudy, you can just use your laptops display

  • @naircat
    @naircat วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:58 don't forget that the RGB subpixel layout alone eats 66% of the light! When the picture is white, on a subpixel level it can't reflect (WHITE, WHITE, WHITE), it has to reflect (RED, GREEN, BLUE) to total white. Each subpixel component loses the other 2 primaries, making the whole thing less than a third as bright from this layer alone.

  • @Max_Mustermann
    @Max_Mustermann หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not sure about adding a front light, but making it trans-reflective would make sense. Which was a technology that was used in early mobile phones with color screens and in a handful of laptops like the Toshiba Portege R500. The LCD had a backlight, but was also readable in direct sunlight with the backlight turned off.

  • @frvo
    @frvo หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My Garmin Forerunner 955 has this kind of display. It's the ideal type of panel for the use case. I absolutely love it.

  • @comeradecoyote
    @comeradecoyote หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Finally, a monitor that you need a desk lamp for.
    Of course this probably would have a lot of great utility for semi-outdoor POS systems like at theme parks, or other theme park type information displays (As long as they have a light strip above them for overcast weather and nightime operation). Otherwise I could see people using this for outdoor patio use, for football games or what have you. But short of integration into a weather housing, it would be "Lug outside for parties" kind of use.
    A neat niche for sure. Their digital signage products make a lot more sense especially in the kinds of conditions you now typically see backlit digital signage. I wonder how their power performance compares to the rising competing technology of E-ink displays, considering they have a similar low power profile, but good sunlight performance. The backlight feature of the E-inks in some ways allows for better versatility. Unless they offer a sun-LCD with a supplemental lighting feature.

    • @uberfuzzy
      @uberfuzzy หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had the same idea, but my first thought example was toll-booths, since they usually 3-4 glass sides, so ALL the daylight gets in there.

    • @comeradecoyote
      @comeradecoyote หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@uberfuzzy I think the age of toll plaza’s is coming to an end. Most places are ditching them for computer vision toll enforcement, and RFID tag billing like EZ-pass. Otherwise thats not a bad idea. I’m sure they’d find a niche for any outdoor booth, as long as a windshield’s polarisation doesn’t affect the visibility of the display. I know some linear and circular polarisers like camera lenses and sunglasses might cause a perceptible dimming.

  • @AlecMHansen
    @AlecMHansen หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey Linus and team, curious what was the lux/lumen output of the bright light you were shining on it the display in the second half of the video?
    I suffer from seasonal affective disorder and my strategy to mitigate it has been to either go to Florida for the summer or buy $400 in light bulbs and light up my home office much brighter than the usual 300 lux you’d get in an office.
    I hit around 7,000 lux in my home office. I think this would be more usable than my current monitors that are a bit difficult to read.

  • @boomerangfreak
    @boomerangfreak 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This would be amazing on jobsite work laptops I feel. But maybe if possible with an optionable backlight.
    I bought a used thinkpad x280 as a light compact laptop to use on my laser engraver. Using it in my garage workshop where if you want proper light you have to open up the port to the point where I have to use max brightness in summer to be able to see something.
    And with the power saving of not having to run a backlight I wouldn't have to worry about possibly running out of battery on longer jobs/days

    • @calebjonathan25
      @calebjonathan25 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's a great point. The low-power feature combined with the sunlight viewability is something that backlit screens can't accomplish. This introduces a lot of new possibilities for those who want to take their workstation outdoors!

    • @boomerangfreak
      @boomerangfreak 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@calebjonathan25 tho I do feel for it to be a reliable job option it would actually need a sort of backup light source. And maybe a front lit setup might work pretty nice on these panels? 🤔

  • @teg24601
    @teg24601 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the conversation about light and contrast ratio. Remind me of the Technology Connections video on the color brown, which is just orange with context.

  • @Big007Boss
    @Big007Boss หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Finally, a reason to go outside and touch grass with my sun powered display

  • @sTuP1
    @sTuP1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Linus is turning to be Bill Nye the Science Guy 2.1 😂

  • @PolyesterMoustache
    @PolyesterMoustache หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've never heard of people thinking blue light causes eye damage. People avoid high amounts of blue light because it messes with their sleep cycle

    • @Lizlodude
      @Lizlodude หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it kinda showed up when the 'blue light glasses' became popular, pretty much just to sell more of them as far as I can tell.

    • @PolyesterMoustache
      @PolyesterMoustache หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Lizlodude it's just weird to even address such a nonsense claim when there's a legitimate one that's been around much longer. But I guess it's good to publicly debunk hogwash

  • @kirisuma2186
    @kirisuma2186 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    ... gotta love that you used an Austin Clip for that color Accuracy clip...

    • @MarioGoatse
      @MarioGoatse หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's the relevance there? Is there a joke or a reference?

    • @kirisuma2186
      @kirisuma2186 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarioGoatse no, If anything just a nod to a fellow TH-camr. They could have easily used one of their own clips.

  • @gamingmarcus
    @gamingmarcus หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's certainly nice to have as a backup for any kind of outdoor activity. Just mirror your content to this and a normal monitor to use whichever fits the current environment best.

  • @neky92
    @neky92 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    teasing nintendo lawyers with mario movie in the background?
    LOVE IT!

  • @WeirdTippy
    @WeirdTippy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does this mean Andy and Denis' idea of having a lamp above their monitor isn't stupid after all?

  • @dalyxia
    @dalyxia หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    usecase can be to adopt this tech into the "normal" lcd/led displays, so you have best of both worls.
    Sensor to detect ambient light levels to make an ultra low energy display for like worklaptop.

    • @foldionepapyrus3441
      @foldionepapyrus3441 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Has already been done 'transflective displays' have been fitted in as far as I know ever Panasonic Toughbook for decades, and my old models are really great at remaining very readable in the daylight but still working in the dark. The technology does still have limitations on pixel density etc but you can get a perfectly acceptable screen out of it.

    • @yensteel
      @yensteel หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Woot, the same company in this video now has what you're looking for.

  • @nebula0024
    @nebula0024 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Perhaps as this technology advances even further, and if they can lower the price, these monitors could be useful in a well-lit office environment. It would certainly help to cut the cost of electricity, and ?possibly? reduce the need to replace faulty displays. I dunno, a lot of speculation at this point I suppose. At least they seem to have a good use case for outdoor signage, as you mentioned.

  • @R.K_Chalkboard
    @R.K_Chalkboard หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think this monitor would be great for cruises, airport displays, and restaurants(with windows). Any indoor public area would be really good for this thing.

  • @DylanN1ne
    @DylanN1ne หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember seeing this technology showcased back in 2017. Glad to see it finally come up again, hopefully its here to stay!

  • @mtrps_
    @mtrps_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    live audio is great example! For the lack of constant light issue, just get a small USB led light facing the screen from above or below towards the screen. problem solved.

  • @arlo.infinity
    @arlo.infinity หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hmm.. What we need is mini-LED backlights where the LEDs are surrounded by mirrors. Would lose some filling factor by 2 or 3 but would still be f***ing bright in the 🌞! Even better would be micro-LED with a mirror-like layer directly deposited around the LED within the fab. A quick search shows people have already had success with deposition of highly reflective layers on silicon.

  • @PopArtem
    @PopArtem 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't wait for Dasung Paperlike color review! And thank you for reviewing this one!

  • @Raizazel
    @Raizazel หลายเดือนก่อน

    I used to do some UAV flights and had to do some tweaking to the controllers and computer vision in the middle of nowhere with direct sunlight hitting the monitors. It was really hard to program under those conditions. I we had one of these (with a frontlight for cloudy conditions) it would have helped quite a lot. Most of the time we were running on portable batteries so having a monitor that is this energy efficient would have been a another plus.

  • @alltheotherhandlesaretaken
    @alltheotherhandlesaretaken หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Finally, a perfect monitor to use with Andy’s monitor light bar.

  • @deppe4202
    @deppe4202 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This on a phone would be a banger. Always readable awesome battery life and doesn’t burn your eyes out at night.

    • @khazareek
      @khazareek หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You're correct if only for the fact that you wouldn't see anything at all at night. There is no light whatsoever, whatever ambient lighting bounces off the walls of your room during the day would not be there at night.

    • @jumpierwolf
      @jumpierwolf หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah for sure man, it's pretty useable at night right after you turn on a really bright table lamp and point it directly at the phone. A lot easier to just use a regular phone with night mode and brightness turned down.

    • @Jourei_
      @Jourei_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This, as an optional feature! Backlight turned on for the moments others commented.

    • @KARLOSPCgame
      @KARLOSPCgame หลายเดือนก่อน

      If this thing is in the backscreen of (for example) Samsung Fold would be golden, you could actually use a phone outside to watch a movie

    • @deppe4202
      @deppe4202 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@khazareek cant you build in like an smal backlight or like what the i ink display made. Also maybe then people would stop looking at their stupid phone all night

  • @billy101456
    @billy101456 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine this on like a Toughbook with a front light. For a system they expect your using in a literal field, it would be amazing.

  • @iordanisiordanidis6395
    @iordanisiordanidis6395 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very useful for working in the field. Be it a testing ground for robotics, autonomous systems and unmanned vehicles to events and what not. Sure not for indoors but thats not the targetted use. Trying compare it for indoors is like saying how useless is a bright flashlight in a well lit room.

  • @UltraVegito-1995
    @UltraVegito-1995 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

    *Beardless Linus hits differently*

    • @TheOfficialKiro67
      @TheOfficialKiro67 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      he looks younger this way, like back in his ncix days

    • @cyanidegaming69
      @cyanidegaming69 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      where did he hit you tho? on the aaah?

    • @yourfriendben2
      @yourfriendben2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I cant tell if a video is new or just an old one I've never seen now😂

    • @SunWarrior155
      @SunWarrior155 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He looked like a hobo with the beard

    • @adityakhaprelap
      @adityakhaprelap หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's what his children say. (Jk)

  • @cyruskuhn9410
    @cyruskuhn9410 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    As someone who is a high schooler who has lived in Florida my whole life, i can guarantee that the statement at 10:20 is not true, they fly off the shelves faster than that panel could even update a frame 😂

  • @djplonghead5403
    @djplonghead5403 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would love to see this in a hybrid system on a laptop. Have a regular backlight for when you are in a dark room but have this technology for if you are in a sunny cafe.

  • @sindrisuncatcher653
    @sindrisuncatcher653 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Most of these drawbacks are necessary tradeoffs in order to make a screen that works in highly illuminated areas, but I feel like the response time could be improved significantly at that price point using technology that's already in wide use. I guess their target audience just doesn't consider that a priority?

  • @David-ln8qh
    @David-ln8qh หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Linus perpetually struggles to imagine the use-cases for products he wouldn't directly benefit from. There's obvious use here for outdoor gatherings where you set up a place for folks (especially kids) to watch movies or play games. You likely wouldn't care about image quality, you'd just need to SEE the screen.

    • @ryx007
      @ryx007 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just watch the whole video maybe?

    • @inisipisTV
      @inisipisTV หลายเดือนก่อน

      He did stated the use of it, it’s just that it’s matter common knowledge his channel is focused more on PC Game tech than the various niche’ PC tech market.

    • @stevethepocket
      @stevethepocket หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like for those, you'd want a bigger screen than this though, more like TV sized.

  • @Joris0815
    @Joris0815 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The full saying is "The customer is always right, in matters of taste"

  • @Artista_Frustrado
    @Artista_Frustrado หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i could see it being useful in my bedroom when is 2 in the morning & i would like a very dim light... but for that price I'm sure i can find a better indoor monitor that can get as dim
    but yeah this is clearly for OutDoor usage, maybe get Framework to add a Sunview Screen module as an option

  • @hulkxx91
    @hulkxx91 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The sun doesn't make Goku stronger, missed opportunity for a Superman reference.

  • @FarmerEnvoyXtreme
    @FarmerEnvoyXtreme หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    1:24 There is me thinking this thing was gonna be powered by Nuclear Fusion

    • @blazewardog
      @blazewardog หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean its backlight is powered by a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reaction. The reaction is just a little further away than usual.

  • @sauce777
    @sauce777 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can you call something with only 2 pages a book?

  • @Wolvey10
    @Wolvey10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a person that works in the optical industry, opticians are now being taught that it takes 16 hours of screen time to equal the same blue light exposure as 30 seconds outside on an overcast day.
    The blue light exposure thing was a marketing ploy to get people to buy “blue light filtering” eyewear. Eye strain on screens is more because of the distance, not the light.

  • @zeekjones1
    @zeekjones1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like that someone finally brought this tech back.
    I'd even go as far to hope they are used in newer tablets, phones, and watches eventually too.
    But since 'new development/adopter tax' for these screens are still a bit high, one can only hope something like big companies in the sports or food industry make some partnerships or at least some large orders.

  • @KingofBuilders
    @KingofBuilders หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    6:08 "Since your eyes and your brain have GOD TIER auto white balance!" Then the perfect follow up example of shades of red (where your brain fills in white balance to the point of seeing blue tones in the water and sky! Dang, never thought about it before. Well exemplified team!

  • @matheusode4427
    @matheusode4427 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    The joke at 10:20 caught me by surprise lol

    • @ARandomInternetUser08
      @ARandomInternetUser08 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeah, because the channel is a joke after that. They've lost my support after that. THIS A TECH CHANNEL, NOT POLITICS.

    • @snoopadillo
      @snoopadillo หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@ARandomInternetUser08 cry about it lol

    • @matheusode4427
      @matheusode4427 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ARandomInternetUser08 get mad lol

    • @ARandomInternetUser08
      @ARandomInternetUser08 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matheusode4427 speak for yourself, lefty kid.

  • @Brogboolius_Maximus
    @Brogboolius_Maximus หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had honestly forgotten about reflective screens, but this was super cool. I would 100% buy a portable monitor that used this technology.

  • @eugenenalpin6058
    @eugenenalpin6058 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm thinking. Would a screen like this + a NUC, hooked up to a portable battery station, be more or less efficient for working in the middle of California desert, than just a normal laptop? Would the power consumption be better than just a typical run-of-the-mill laptop, for stuff like doing calculations and processing data? I guess you'd be able to stretch that battery budget a lot longer

  • @MsQueenOfDance
    @MsQueenOfDance หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I love hearing previews for new vidoes on the WAN show. Luke's confusion was extremely funny

  • @s980845
    @s980845 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    You should have tried that EInk display in direct sunlight.

  • @vikas9090
    @vikas9090 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This awesome I have been looking for such thing

  • @AnthonyChopra
    @AnthonyChopra หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The library joke hahah

  • @Skylancer727
    @Skylancer727 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Even worse than it reflecting more blue light back at you, it reflects back UV as well which you can see on the graph. And UV is known to damage your eyes.

    • @heckoff7904
      @heckoff7904 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      the amount of UV it reflects would probably not be much more than any other material, remember that this is less bright than a piece of paper in the sun. Many things will reflect UV into your eyes, unless their specific material properties absorb UV.

    • @Skylancer727
      @Skylancer727 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@heckoff7904 yeah I know, but if the talking point is reducing blue light, well now you gave it something well know to be bad for you. UV actually degrades your eyes while at best blue light "might" strain them.

    • @meneldal
      @meneldal หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Skylancer727 If you don't want your eyes to get a ton of UV you shouldn't be outside in the first place.

  • @dayv6368
    @dayv6368 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Andy's monitor light is finally justified

  • @Peron1-MC
    @Peron1-MC หลายเดือนก่อน

    imagine playing a horror game while wearing a headlamp. that way you have to physically light up where you want to watch on the screen XD

  • @downundarob
    @downundarob หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8:55 - not quite, the full quote is "The customer is always right, in matters of taste,"