Vanitas is way too high and Roxas is way too low. Vanitas couldn't even beat Ventus with the x-blade and Roxas was literally invincible in the Saix boss fight, while Sora and Xion could take damage and die.
He talked about Vanitas with the complete X-Blade. Ventus defeated Vanitas with his broken X-Blade. That's why he put Vanitas that high. We have seen Vanitas with the full X-Blade against Aqua and Mickey who possessed Ventus outside. Aqua and Mickey would have lost if Ventus couldn't beat Vanitas inside his heart. So I understand why he put Vanitas (X-Blade) after Sora
You know when I origionally saw the final trailer I origionally thought it was Donald blocking a giant laser beam not him actually shooting it so I was surprised.
My List of Powerlevels after Dark Road -- Top 60: ?. The real Enemy, The true Darkness (without a Body) 0. The Lost Master "The Mastermind" -- The Master of Masters (Creator of the Keyblades) 1. Ace of the Masters Students, Luxu (True Power) (Keyblade Master) 2. The Ancient Keyblade Masters: The Foretellers (Ira, Invi, Aced, Gula and Ava) 3. Leader of the Real Organisation XIII, Master Xehanort (Full X-Blade) (Real Kingdom Hearts) (Keyblade Master) (Fragments absorbed) 4. Guardian of Light Ace, Sora (Hero of the Realm of Light) 5. Xehanort Replica (Heart Fragments fused, KH III Remind) 6. Reborn Darkness, Vanitas (Full X-Blade) (Real Organisation XIII) 7. Leader of the Organisation XIII: The Superior of the In-Between, Xemnas (Superior of Nothingness Form, KHII) (Real Organisation XIII) 8. Master Yen Sid (Former Keyblade Master) 9. The Magician of the King, Donald Duck (Zettaflare) ("New" Guardian of Light) 10. Terra-Xehanort (Guardian) (Real Organisation XIII) 11. The Demon Tornado (Tornado of Heartless) 12. "New" Guardian of Light, Terra (Power of Darkness) (The Lingering Will) 13. Leader of the Guardians of Light, King Mickey Mouse (Ultima, Stopza) (Keyblade Master) (KHIII Remind) 14. Guardian of Light, Master Aqua (Keyblade Master) 15. Teacher of Xehanort and Eraqus, Odin (Keyblade Master) 16. "New" Guardian of Light "The Key of Destiny", Roxas (Former Organisation XIII Member) (KHIII) 17. Organisation XIII: The Lunar Diviner , Saix (Full Berzerk Mode, KH III) (Real Organisation XIII) 18. The Demon Tower & The Demon Tide (Wave of Heartless) 19. Guardian of Light, Riku (Keyblade Master) 20. Chosen One by the Darkness, Young Xehanort (Real Organisation XIII) (Time Travel) 21. Hero of the Past, The Player 22. Xehanort Ancestor, Ephemer (Keyblade Master) (Wielder from the Past) 23. Teacher of Terra, Aqua and Ventus, Master Eraqus (Keyblade Master) 24. Vessel of the Darkness, Baldr (Original Seeker of Darkness) 25. Seeker of Darkness, Ansem (Real Organisation XIII) 26. Guardian of Light, Ventus (Wielder from the Past) 27. Keyblade Wielder from the Past, Skuld 28. "New" Guardian of Light "No.I", Xion (Former Real Organisation XIII Member) 29. Organisation XIII: The Graceful Assassin, Marluxia / Lauriam (Chain of Memories) (Real Organisation XIII) 30. Guardian of Light, Lea (Former Organisation XIII Member, The Flurry of Dancing Flames: Axel) 31. Guardian of Light, Princess of Heart: Kairi (KH III Remind, Full Potential) 32. Organisation XIII: The Freeshooter , Xigbar / Braig (Vessel and New Body of Luxu) (Real Organisation XIII) 33. Organisation XIII: The Gambler of Fate, Luxord (Real Organisation XIII) 34. Organisation XIII: The Savage Nymph, Larxene / Elrena (Real Organisation XIII) 35. Riku Replica (Also Riku-Ansem) (Real Organisation XIII) 36. The One Winged Angel, Sephiroth (Holding Back) 37. Organisation XIII: The Whirlwind Lancer, Xaldin / Dilan 38. Organisation XIII: The Silent Hero, Laxeus / Aeleus 39. Tied: Cloud Strife (Powerlevel of Advent Children) & Squall Leonhart (Leon) (Powerlevel of FFVIII) 40. Organisation XIII: The Chilly Academic, Vexen / Even 41. Organisation XIII: The Cloaked Schemer, Zexion / Ienzo 42. Organisation XIII: The Melodious Nocturne, Demyx 43. Anti - Sora (Darkside, Sora's Heartless Form) 44. Mistress of All Evil, Maleficent 45. King of the Gods & Olympus, Zeus 46. God of Strength, Hercules 47. God of the Underworld, Hades 48. Tornado Titan 49. Tied: Rock Titan, Ice Titan, Lava Titan 50. Queen of Arendelle, Elsa (The Ice Queen) (New Princess of Heart) 51. The Darkside 52. Zack Fair 53. Auron 54. Tifa Lockhart 55. Fantasia Demon, Chernabog 56. King of the Sea, Triton 57. Arch Enemy of the Sea, Ursula 58. The "Pureblood" Heartless 59. Tied: The Nobodies & The Unversed 60. Tied: The Nightmares & The "Emblem Heartless Honorable Mentions: Yozora Goofy Pete Princesses of Heart (Alice, Snow White, Jasmine, Belle, Cinderella, Aurora) Luxu Vessels Bragi & Brain Heimdall, Helgi, Hoder, Sigrun, Vala, Vali, Vidar Urd, Vor, Hermod Young Eraqus Strelitzia Namine Aerith Gainsborough Cid Highwind Yuffie Kisaragi Fairy Godmother
@@WilliamWill1108Because he isn’t as powerful as the Guys who I put higher in the List. I mean that doesn’t mean he isn’t powerful, he is still on the top 30 which is pretty strong but yeah. He defeated Vanitas but actually not really..or at least only with the broken Keyblade, Vanitas was defeated because Ventus defeated him in his Heart and Aqua together with Mickey on the outside which both Forms couldn’t be defeated without the others so if Ventus didn’t defeat Vanitas in his Heart, Aqua and Mickey would have lost and same goes on the opposite. So yeah he is powerful but I don’t know if he can beat Ansem or Master Eraqus for example.
Master of Masters and the Foretellers will make the powerscale of Kingdom Hearts Go up once they are given feats. Alongside the Goddess inside Kingdom Hearts if they do something more with that introduced idea maybe her being MoM wife or something.
"her being master of master wife" how did this theory start? Cause master of master making a heart shape with his hands in front of the moon in the kh3 secret movie?
Didn't play the game still but from what I heard are xion, Lea and Roxas that much below the other guardians? Doesn't Roxas wreck saix? Why x blade vanitas so high, he lost to Ventus in BBS. Is the difference between ansem and xemnas that big? Don't want to bother people but if someone have the time could this person answer my questions.
It takes roxas, xion and sora together to fight saix in his berserker mode in kingdom hearts 3 ventus tied with incomplete x blade vanitas, real x blade vanitas is really strong base xemnas is equal to ansem but xemnas twilight mode is way above ansem
@@xXSonTJXx I see. Thanks for taking the time to answer but I am still confused. What about terranort? Wasn't he above aqua too, and Ventus and Sora had to help. What's make the foretellers this strong when they're basically featless? What's make people like Ventus scale above eraqus when never facing him. And where would you put Donald and Goofy if you could?
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@@vashythewabbit8288 that is weird. Marluxia always struck me as one of the stronger Organization member though, mainly because he has a second form, which for some reason is unique to him.
@@electricityandstuff4819 yeah it is weird. Nomura does say weird stuff that don't make any sense at times. Then again, I did find Xaldin and Lexaeus' boss fights harder than Marluxia lol
@@vashythewabbit8288 do Xaldin and Lexaeus still have their elemental powers after being reformed though? I don't know if that was ever established cause the only hint we have of that is braig still having some abilities before he became a nobody. But he's a special case so i don't know if i should count him.
Good list but should marlucia and sephiroth be so low? And for me siax>xigbar. And vanitas got tossed by sully of all people. I don’t know if they nerfed him or whatever but he’s really weak in the game. Other then that good list.
To be honest I'm pretty sure Sephiroth is much stronger than you give him credit for I mean dude I fighted him in KH2 and he wrecked the shit out of me and even after I berated him in the cutseane it didn't seemed like he was deffeated or injured which suggested that he still had much more HP and he just played with Sora and that bring me to the fact that when Cloud fighted Sephiroth he started to glow in gold when Sephiroth started to attack Tifa and then Cloud fighted him like an equal so to be honest I think Cloud and Sephiroth should be way way higher in that list like higher then any character Sora deffeated since KH1 till the end of KH2 other Xeanort Nobady becouse Riku and Sora and Donald and Goffy fighted him together but other then him I think Sephiroth and Cloud after Cloud get his light aura boost in his fight aginst Sephiroth are actually stronger than any single member of organisation 13 other then Xeanort's nobody becouse Sora of KH would lose to him if Riku wouldn't saved him in that moument in KH2 last battle that you controls Riku Now Cloud of KH1 is not that strong kinda lost to that three headed dog but Cloud of KH2 is so much stronger and in his battle aginst Sephiroth in KH2 he get even stronger still so no Sephiroth and Cloud are way above 99% of organization 13 other then Xeanort's nobody might be stronger than they are
My updated list after Dark Road: 1. Master of Masters 2(tied). The Foretellers 3. Master Xehanort 4. King Mickey 5. Xemnas 6. Ansem SoD 7. Yen Sid 8. Terra 9. Aqua 10. Donald
My List of Powerlevels after Dark Road -- Top 60: ?. The real Enemy, The true Darkness (without a Body) 0. The Lost Master "The Mastermind" -- The Master of Masters (Creator of the Keyblades) 1. Ace of the Masters Students, Luxu (True Power) (Keyblade Master) 2. The Ancient Keyblade Masters: The Foretellers (Ira, Invi, Aced, Gula and Ava) 3. Leader of the Real Organisation XIII, Master Xehanort (Full X-Blade) (Real Kingdom Hearts) (Keyblade Master) (Fragments absorbed) 4. Guardian of Light Ace, Sora (Hero of the Realm of Light) 5. Xehanort Replica (Heart Fragments fused, KH III Remind) 6. Reborn Darkness, Vanitas (Full X-Blade) (Real Organisation XIII) 7. Leader of the Organisation XIII: The Superior of the In-Between, Xemnas (Superior of Nothingness Form, KHII) (Real Organisation XIII) 8. Master Yen Sid (Former Keyblade Master) 9. The Magician of the King, Donald Duck (Zettaflare) ("New" Guardian of Light) 10. Terra-Xehanort (Guardian) (Real Organisation XIII) 11. The Demon Tornado (Tornado of Heartless) 12. "New" Guardian of Light, Terra (Power of Darkness) (The Lingering Will) 13. Leader of the Guardians of Light, King Mickey Mouse (Ultima, Stopza) (Keyblade Master) (KHIII Remind) 14. Guardian of Light, Master Aqua (Keyblade Master) 15. Teacher of Xehanort and Eraqus, Odin (Keyblade Master) 16. "New" Guardian of Light "The Key of Destiny", Roxas (Former Organisation XIII Member) (KHIII) 17. Organisation XIII: The Lunar Diviner , Saix (Full Berzerk Mode, KH III) (Real Organisation XIII) 18. The Demon Tower & The Demon Tide (Wave of Heartless) 19. Guardian of Light, Riku (Keyblade Master) 20. Chosen One by the Darkness, Young Xehanort (Real Organisation XIII) (Time Travel) 21. Hero of the Past, The Player 22. Xehanort Ancestor, Ephemer (Keyblade Master) (Wielder from the Past) 23. Teacher of Terra, Aqua and Ventus, Master Eraqus (Keyblade Master) 24. Vessel of the Darkness, Baldr (Original Seeker of Darkness) 25. Seeker of Darkness, Ansem (Real Organisation XIII) 26. Guardian of Light, Ventus (Wielder from the Past) 27. Keyblade Wielder from the Past, Skuld 28. "New" Guardian of Light "No.I", Xion (Former Real Organisation XIII Member) 29. Organisation XIII: The Graceful Assassin, Marluxia / Lauriam (Chain of Memories) (Real Organisation XIII) 30. Guardian of Light, Lea (Former Organisation XIII Member, The Flurry of Dancing Flames: Axel) 31. Guardian of Light, Princess of Heart: Kairi (KH III Remind, Full Potential) 32. Organisation XIII: The Freeshooter , Xigbar / Braig (Vessel and New Body of Luxu) (Real Organisation XIII) 33. Organisation XIII: The Gambler of Fate, Luxord (Real Organisation XIII) 34. Organisation XIII: The Savage Nymph, Larxene / Elrena (Real Organisation XIII) 35. Riku Replica (Also Riku-Ansem) (Real Organisation XIII) 36. The One Winged Angel, Sephiroth (Holding Back) 37. Organisation XIII: The Whirlwind Lancer, Xaldin / Dilan 38. Organisation XIII: The Silent Hero, Laxeus / Aeleus 39. Tied: Cloud Strife (Powerlevel of Advent Children) & Squall Leonhart (Leon) (Powerlevel of FFVIII) 40. Organisation XIII: The Chilly Academic, Vexen / Even 41. Organisation XIII: The Cloaked Schemer, Zexion / Ienzo 42. Organisation XIII: The Melodious Nocturne, Demyx 43. Anti - Sora (Darkside, Sora's Heartless Form) 44. Mistress of All Evil, Maleficent 45. King of the Gods & Olympus, Zeus 46. God of Strength, Hercules 47. God of the Underworld, Hades 48. Tornado Titan 49. Tied: Rock Titan, Ice Titan, Lava Titan 50. Queen of Arendelle, Elsa (The Ice Queen) (New Princess of Heart) 51. The Darkside 52. Zack Fair 53. Auron 54. Tifa Lockhart 55. Fantasia Demon, Chernabog 56. King of the Sea, Triton 57. Arch Enemy of the Sea, Ursula 58. The "Pureblood" Heartless 59. Tied: The Nobodies & The Unversed 60. Tied: The Nightmares & The "Emblem Heartless Honorable Mentions: Yozora Goofy Pete Princesses of Heart (Alice, Snow White, Jasmine, Belle, Cinderella, Aurora) Luxu Vessels Bragi & Brain Heimdall, Helgi, Hoder, Sigrun, Vala, Vali, Vidar Urd, Vor, Hermod Young Eraqus Strelitzia Namine Aerith Gainsborough Cid Highwind Yuffie Kisaragi Fairy Godmother We haven’t seen the full Power of the Foretellers yet and because they are the Ancient Masters and directly students of the Master of Masters they are probably much more powerful than Xehanort and Luxu used only a little fraction of his power as Braig/Xigbar. And Ventus only defeated Vanitas as same as Aqua and Mickey because he is defeated both from the Heart (Ventus) and the boy/shell (Aqua and Mickey), so yeah Vanitas was far more powerful. Also Donal Zettaflare is a freaking beast, that’s why he is obviously that high ranked.
This list is stupid and is not canon. It's got a lot of personal bias. Riku literally admitted defeat against Roxas before he accepted the dark power in him. Roxas in 2.5 HD vs. Sora says "I defeated a Riku once" when Sora asks "You aren't Riku?", and then he would've defeated Sora too but the ending surprised him where Sora wins, and Roxas responds "You make a good other"
@@xXSonTJXx That's false I found no evidence that supports that claim Nomura never says outright who the strongest member of the original Organization 13 is; however, it is stated that in game that Xemnas is the most powerful.
@@superblanco444 If you play Rechain is it almost appears that Axel and Marluxia are evenly matched. But I think Marluxia would have won easily with his specter.
out of the currently active keyblade wielders: *DISCLAIMER* - this listing NOT as linear as it looks. a handful of characters can be grouped/"tiered" together. have fun tiering them yourself. - there are NO guaranteed wins/loses, except for the obvious. have fun identifying said matchups yourself. - MoM, Luxu, foretellers, dandelion leaders, luxord&demyx: *not enough info* - I'll throw isa in for shits and giggles, but he may not have saïx's powers. for whatever reason, each nobody *slain by a keyblade* lost abilities (namely "dark corridor usage) upon their recompletion. 1. Sora 2. Riku 3. Mickey 4. Aqua 5. Terra 6. Roxas 7. Ventus 8. Isa 9. Lea 10. Xion 11. Kairi
Maleficent is one of the most powerful characters in Kingdom hearts series. She is literally the only existing villain/villainess with "all the powers of Hell under her command!" She's supposed to be the mistress of all evil, not just your typical witch/fairy. I personally think she is already extremely downgraded in comparisson with her Sleeping beauty role where she's the personification of darkness but even in KH she still deserves one of the top places and she's definitely stronger than the Organization XIII members when it comes to face to face combat.
@@xXSonTJXx Well, since we're talking about Maleficent, i would say she's really downgraded! Same goes for Hades, Jafar, Chernabog, Merlin and more Disney characters. All of them possess God-Level powers in their movies but they appear much weaker in Kingdom hearts. That's not your fault, ofcourse.
For me Sora should not be stronger than ventus nor vanitas you forget ventus had to fight somebody with the strongest keyblade the keyblade x and who did he beat that had it vanitas also ventus has more experience than sora and he fought stronger enemies the unvered if u know the unveresed are stronger than heartless and nobodies also he has the d-links so he can use any speical moves of the people he meets or bonds with my fact show this truth idk why people say that ventus is soo weak and also roxas should be higher the top three so be 3:roxas 2:Sora 1: ventus because they are all main charcter im only putting roxas at 3 because when sora was younger he had more fighting experience
Well if his placement is straight up false on a list like this, obviously criticism's gonna happen. He put Roxas lower than VENTUS and Riku ffs. Painfully wrong.
roxas' kh3 A.I. *can solo* saïx, but this guy still put him beneath saïx. seriously. stand still during that fight to watch roxas tear him apart without ever taking damage.
Vanitas is way too high and Roxas is way too low. Vanitas couldn't even beat Ventus with the x-blade and Roxas was literally invincible in the Saix boss fight, while Sora and Xion could take damage and die.
Gameplay and Lore segregation!
@@chain_of_nothing roxas was designed to solo saïx for a reason: *roxas obliterates him*
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He talked about Vanitas with the complete X-Blade. Ventus defeated Vanitas with his broken X-Blade. That's why he put Vanitas that high. We have seen Vanitas with the full X-Blade against Aqua and Mickey who possessed Ventus outside. Aqua and Mickey would have lost if Ventus couldn't beat Vanitas inside his heart. So I understand why he put Vanitas (X-Blade) after Sora
@@dogeamidoge5322 What do you think about my list? You can see it as a TH-cam comment in this video :)
Damn, Donal can use ZETTAFLARE you know
You know when I origionally saw the final trailer I origionally thought it was Donald blocking a giant laser beam not him actually shooting it so I was surprised.
zetta flare is so cool lmao
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My List of Powerlevels after Dark Road -- Top 60:
?. The real Enemy, The true Darkness (without a Body)
0. The Lost Master "The Mastermind" -- The Master of Masters (Creator of the Keyblades)
1. Ace of the Masters Students, Luxu (True Power) (Keyblade Master)
2. The Ancient Keyblade Masters: The Foretellers (Ira, Invi, Aced, Gula and Ava)
3. Leader of the Real Organisation XIII, Master Xehanort (Full X-Blade) (Real Kingdom Hearts) (Keyblade Master) (Fragments absorbed)
4. Guardian of Light Ace, Sora (Hero of the Realm of Light)
5. Xehanort Replica (Heart Fragments fused, KH III Remind)
6. Reborn Darkness, Vanitas (Full X-Blade) (Real Organisation XIII)
7. Leader of the Organisation XIII: The Superior of the In-Between, Xemnas
(Superior of Nothingness Form, KHII) (Real Organisation XIII)
8. Master Yen Sid (Former Keyblade Master)
9. The Magician of the King, Donald Duck (Zettaflare) ("New" Guardian of Light)
10. Terra-Xehanort (Guardian) (Real Organisation XIII)
11. The Demon Tornado (Tornado of Heartless)
12. "New" Guardian of Light, Terra (Power of Darkness) (The Lingering Will)
13. Leader of the Guardians of Light, King Mickey Mouse (Ultima, Stopza) (Keyblade Master) (KHIII Remind)
14. Guardian of Light, Master Aqua (Keyblade Master)
15. Teacher of Xehanort and Eraqus, Odin (Keyblade Master)
16. "New" Guardian of Light "The Key of Destiny", Roxas (Former Organisation XIII Member) (KHIII)
17. Organisation XIII: The Lunar Diviner , Saix (Full Berzerk Mode, KH III) (Real Organisation XIII)
18. The Demon Tower & The Demon Tide (Wave of Heartless)
19. Guardian of Light, Riku (Keyblade Master)
20. Chosen One by the Darkness, Young Xehanort (Real Organisation XIII) (Time Travel)
21. Hero of the Past, The Player
22. Xehanort Ancestor, Ephemer (Keyblade Master) (Wielder from the Past)
23. Teacher of Terra, Aqua and Ventus, Master Eraqus (Keyblade Master)
24. Vessel of the Darkness, Baldr (Original Seeker of Darkness)
25. Seeker of Darkness, Ansem (Real Organisation XIII)
26. Guardian of Light, Ventus (Wielder from the Past)
27. Keyblade Wielder from the Past, Skuld
28. "New" Guardian of Light "No.I", Xion (Former Real Organisation XIII Member)
29. Organisation XIII: The Graceful Assassin, Marluxia / Lauriam (Chain of Memories) (Real Organisation XIII)
30. Guardian of Light, Lea (Former Organisation XIII Member, The Flurry of Dancing Flames: Axel)
31. Guardian of Light, Princess of Heart: Kairi (KH III Remind, Full Potential)
32. Organisation XIII: The Freeshooter , Xigbar / Braig (Vessel and New Body of Luxu) (Real Organisation XIII)
33. Organisation XIII: The Gambler of Fate, Luxord (Real Organisation XIII)
34. Organisation XIII: The Savage Nymph, Larxene / Elrena (Real Organisation XIII)
35. Riku Replica (Also Riku-Ansem) (Real Organisation XIII)
36. The One Winged Angel, Sephiroth (Holding Back)
37. Organisation XIII: The Whirlwind Lancer, Xaldin / Dilan
38. Organisation XIII: The Silent Hero, Laxeus / Aeleus
39. Tied: Cloud Strife (Powerlevel of Advent Children) & Squall Leonhart (Leon) (Powerlevel of FFVIII)
40. Organisation XIII: The Chilly Academic, Vexen / Even
41. Organisation XIII: The Cloaked Schemer, Zexion / Ienzo
42. Organisation XIII: The Melodious Nocturne, Demyx
43. Anti - Sora (Darkside, Sora's Heartless Form)
44. Mistress of All Evil, Maleficent
45. King of the Gods & Olympus, Zeus
46. God of Strength, Hercules
47. God of the Underworld, Hades
48. Tornado Titan
49. Tied: Rock Titan, Ice Titan, Lava Titan
50. Queen of Arendelle, Elsa (The Ice Queen) (New Princess of Heart)
51. The Darkside
52. Zack Fair
53. Auron
54. Tifa Lockhart
55. Fantasia Demon, Chernabog
56. King of the Sea, Triton
57. Arch Enemy of the Sea, Ursula
58. The "Pureblood" Heartless
59. Tied: The Nobodies & The Unversed
60. Tied: The Nightmares & The "Emblem Heartless
Honorable Mentions:
Yozora
Goofy
Pete
Princesses of Heart (Alice, Snow White, Jasmine, Belle, Cinderella, Aurora)
Luxu Vessels Bragi & Brain
Heimdall, Helgi, Hoder, Sigrun, Vala, Vali, Vidar
Urd, Vor, Hermod
Young Eraqus
Strelitzia
Namine
Aerith Gainsborough
Cid Highwind
Yuffie Kisaragi
Fairy Godmother
Zeref Ansem really isn’t that strong Sora, Riku and Mickey have all defeated him. Ventus already defeated Vanitas with the x-blade.
@@ActualDiamond The X-Blade wasn't complete in the fight bewerben Ventus and Vanitas and Ansem was a mistake I put him down!
@@ActualDiamond Look at my new Top 60 List now
Nice list but why is Ventus so low ?
@@WilliamWill1108Because he isn’t as powerful as the Guys who I put higher in the List. I mean that doesn’t mean he isn’t powerful, he is still on the top 30 which is pretty strong but yeah.
He defeated Vanitas but actually not really..or at least only with the broken Keyblade, Vanitas was defeated because Ventus defeated him in his Heart and Aqua together with Mickey on the outside which both Forms couldn’t be defeated without the others so if Ventus didn’t defeat Vanitas in his Heart, Aqua and Mickey would have lost and same goes on the opposite.
So yeah he is powerful but I don’t know if he can beat Ansem or Master Eraqus for example.
Master of Masters and the Foretellers will make the powerscale of Kingdom Hearts Go up once they are given feats. Alongside the Goddess inside Kingdom Hearts if they do something more with that introduced idea maybe her being MoM wife or something.
"her being master of master wife"
how did this theory start? Cause master of master making a heart shape with his hands in front of the moon in the kh3 secret movie?
@@redshepherd32 That's just a theory I had thought up. Other people think that to that MoM has his Goddess wife trapped in Kingdom Hearts?
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Nice list and song of choice
Didn't play the game still but from what I heard are xion, Lea and Roxas that much below the other guardians? Doesn't Roxas wreck saix?
Why x blade vanitas so high, he lost to Ventus in BBS.
Is the difference between ansem and xemnas that big?
Don't want to bother people but if someone have the time could this person answer my questions.
It takes roxas, xion and sora together to fight saix in his berserker mode in kingdom hearts 3
ventus tied with incomplete x blade vanitas, real x blade vanitas is really strong
base xemnas is equal to ansem but xemnas twilight mode is way above ansem
@@xXSonTJXx I see. Thanks for taking the time to answer but I am still confused.
What about terranort? Wasn't he above aqua too, and Ventus and Sora had to help.
What's make the foretellers this strong when they're basically featless?
What's make people like Ventus scale above eraqus when never facing him.
And where would you put Donald and Goofy if you could?
DenDenMushi He doesn’t have the answers to any of your questions because it was a random ass list lmfao
amazing list sontjxx and been waiting for this top strongest kingdom hearts characters
Answer please, how do you make tops? Let's say the top 100. I will be very grateful to you if you say, well, I beg you. Does this require a special program or installation? thank you in advance! you are the best!
is this based on canon strength or kingdom hearts strength?
Canon
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Wasn't there a statement about Marluxia being the third strongest organization member? Well I wouldn't know where to find it anyway.
It was a false interview. The confirmed 3rd strongest is tied between Xaldin and Lexaeus which is weird tbh.
@@vashythewabbit8288 that is weird. Marluxia always struck me as one of the stronger Organization member though, mainly because he has a second form, which for some reason is unique to him.
@@electricityandstuff4819 yeah it is weird. Nomura does say weird stuff that don't make any sense at times. Then again, I did find Xaldin and Lexaeus' boss fights harder than Marluxia lol
@@vashythewabbit8288 do Xaldin and Lexaeus still have their elemental powers after being reformed though? I don't know if that was ever established cause the only hint we have of that is braig still having some abilities before he became a nobody. But he's a special case so i don't know if i should count him.
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Why is not Terra in your thumbnail?! Please answer.
Good list but should marlucia and sephiroth be so low? And for me siax>xigbar. And vanitas got tossed by sully of all people. I don’t know if they nerfed him or whatever but he’s really weak in the game. Other then that good list.
Sepheroth 25... huh okay
Lmfao for real so dumb
Yeah I would Rank Sephiroth above most of the Organization 13 Members but weaker than the members of the true Organization 13.
How do you make your vids? Is it an editing software or something?
Funny you should say that Donald is an honorable mention...
Donald: *ZETTAFLARE*
Donald: ZETTAFLARE!!!
Five seconds later : sora heal me!!!
Lol u left so bad for Kairi u deiced to put her on Honorable mention lol
what's your favourite kingdom hearts game in series?
の王Stormz MaximaBeast probably 1
@@xXSonTJXx cool, KH2 and Birth by Sleep are only my favourites so far.
の王Stormz MaximaBeast KH2 ftw
Why master Eraqus is so low?
And how stronger Kairi can be?
terra beat eraqus and aqua beat terra xehnort
When did kairi beat terra xehanort?
Pedro Moreira i meant aqua
Aqua didn’t beat terranort one on one she had terra’s help it was 2vs1
@@puck1883 you're right terranort it's almost unbeatable, no one can defeat him alone(except lingering will)
To be honest I'm pretty sure Sephiroth is much stronger than you give him credit for I mean dude I fighted him in KH2 and he wrecked the shit out of me and even after I berated him in the cutseane it didn't seemed like he was deffeated or injured which suggested that he still had much more HP and he just played with Sora and that bring me to the fact that when Cloud fighted Sephiroth he started to glow in gold when Sephiroth started to attack Tifa and then Cloud fighted him like an equal so to be honest I think Cloud and Sephiroth should be way way higher in that list like higher then any character Sora deffeated since KH1 till the end of KH2 other Xeanort Nobady becouse Riku and Sora and Donald and Goffy fighted him together but other then him I think Sephiroth and Cloud after Cloud get his light aura boost in his fight aginst Sephiroth are actually stronger than any single member of organisation 13 other then Xeanort's nobody becouse Sora of KH would lose to him if Riku wouldn't saved him in that moument in KH2 last battle that you controls Riku Now Cloud of KH1 is not that strong kinda lost to that three headed dog but Cloud of KH2 is so much stronger and in his battle aginst Sephiroth in KH2 he get even stronger still so no Sephiroth and Cloud are way above 99% of organization 13 other then Xeanort's nobody might be stronger than they are
Sora imo strongest in series, beat full power master xehanort with complete x-blade with power of plot-I mean friendship
yeah, but with help technically
@@redshepherd32 i think Donald and goofy gave their power to Sora and his keyblade for his final attack tho.
My updated list after Dark Road:
1. Master of Masters
2(tied). The Foretellers
3. Master Xehanort
4. King Mickey
5. Xemnas
6. Ansem SoD
7. Yen Sid
8. Terra
9. Aqua
10. Donald
My List of Powerlevels after Dark Road -- Top 60:
?. The real Enemy, The true Darkness (without a Body)
0. The Lost Master "The Mastermind" -- The Master of Masters (Creator of the Keyblades)
1. Ace of the Masters Students, Luxu (True Power) (Keyblade Master)
2. The Ancient Keyblade Masters: The Foretellers (Ira, Invi, Aced, Gula and Ava)
3. Leader of the Real Organisation XIII, Master Xehanort (Full X-Blade) (Real Kingdom Hearts) (Keyblade Master) (Fragments absorbed)
4. Guardian of Light Ace, Sora (Hero of the Realm of Light)
5. Xehanort Replica (Heart Fragments fused, KH III Remind)
6. Reborn Darkness, Vanitas (Full X-Blade) (Real Organisation XIII)
7. Leader of the Organisation XIII: The Superior of the In-Between, Xemnas
(Superior of Nothingness Form, KHII) (Real Organisation XIII)
8. Master Yen Sid (Former Keyblade Master)
9. The Magician of the King, Donald Duck (Zettaflare) ("New" Guardian of Light)
10. Terra-Xehanort (Guardian) (Real Organisation XIII)
11. The Demon Tornado (Tornado of Heartless)
12. "New" Guardian of Light, Terra (Power of Darkness) (The Lingering Will)
13. Leader of the Guardians of Light, King Mickey Mouse (Ultima, Stopza) (Keyblade Master) (KHIII Remind)
14. Guardian of Light, Master Aqua (Keyblade Master)
15. Teacher of Xehanort and Eraqus, Odin (Keyblade Master)
16. "New" Guardian of Light "The Key of Destiny", Roxas (Former Organisation XIII Member) (KHIII)
17. Organisation XIII: The Lunar Diviner , Saix (Full Berzerk Mode, KH III) (Real Organisation XIII)
18. The Demon Tower & The Demon Tide (Wave of Heartless)
19. Guardian of Light, Riku (Keyblade Master)
20. Chosen One by the Darkness, Young Xehanort (Real Organisation XIII) (Time Travel)
21. Hero of the Past, The Player
22. Xehanort Ancestor, Ephemer (Keyblade Master) (Wielder from the Past)
23. Teacher of Terra, Aqua and Ventus, Master Eraqus (Keyblade Master)
24. Vessel of the Darkness, Baldr (Original Seeker of Darkness)
25. Seeker of Darkness, Ansem (Real Organisation XIII)
26. Guardian of Light, Ventus (Wielder from the Past)
27. Keyblade Wielder from the Past, Skuld
28. "New" Guardian of Light "No.I", Xion (Former Real Organisation XIII Member)
29. Organisation XIII: The Graceful Assassin, Marluxia / Lauriam (Chain of Memories) (Real Organisation XIII)
30. Guardian of Light, Lea (Former Organisation XIII Member, The Flurry of Dancing Flames: Axel)
31. Guardian of Light, Princess of Heart: Kairi (KH III Remind, Full Potential)
32. Organisation XIII: The Freeshooter , Xigbar / Braig (Vessel and New Body of Luxu) (Real Organisation XIII)
33. Organisation XIII: The Gambler of Fate, Luxord (Real Organisation XIII)
34. Organisation XIII: The Savage Nymph, Larxene / Elrena (Real Organisation XIII)
35. Riku Replica (Also Riku-Ansem) (Real Organisation XIII)
36. The One Winged Angel, Sephiroth (Holding Back)
37. Organisation XIII: The Whirlwind Lancer, Xaldin / Dilan
38. Organisation XIII: The Silent Hero, Laxeus / Aeleus
39. Tied: Cloud Strife (Powerlevel of Advent Children) & Squall Leonhart (Leon) (Powerlevel of FFVIII)
40. Organisation XIII: The Chilly Academic, Vexen / Even
41. Organisation XIII: The Cloaked Schemer, Zexion / Ienzo
42. Organisation XIII: The Melodious Nocturne, Demyx
43. Anti - Sora (Darkside, Sora's Heartless Form)
44. Mistress of All Evil, Maleficent
45. King of the Gods & Olympus, Zeus
46. God of Strength, Hercules
47. God of the Underworld, Hades
48. Tornado Titan
49. Tied: Rock Titan, Ice Titan, Lava Titan
50. Queen of Arendelle, Elsa (The Ice Queen) (New Princess of Heart)
51. The Darkside
52. Zack Fair
53. Auron
54. Tifa Lockhart
55. Fantasia Demon, Chernabog
56. King of the Sea, Triton
57. Arch Enemy of the Sea, Ursula
58. The "Pureblood" Heartless
59. Tied: The Nobodies & The Unversed
60. Tied: The Nightmares & The "Emblem Heartless
Honorable Mentions:
Yozora
Goofy
Pete
Princesses of Heart (Alice, Snow White, Jasmine, Belle, Cinderella, Aurora)
Luxu Vessels Bragi & Brain
Heimdall, Helgi, Hoder, Sigrun, Vala, Vali, Vidar
Urd, Vor, Hermod
Young Eraqus
Strelitzia
Namine
Aerith Gainsborough
Cid Highwind
Yuffie Kisaragi
Fairy Godmother
We haven’t seen the full Power of the Foretellers yet and because they are the Ancient Masters and directly students of the Master of Masters they are probably much more powerful than Xehanort and Luxu used only a little fraction of his power as Braig/Xigbar.
And Ventus only defeated Vanitas as same as Aqua and Mickey because he is defeated both from the Heart (Ventus) and the boy/shell (Aqua and Mickey), so yeah Vanitas was far more powerful.
Also Donal Zettaflare is a freaking beast, that’s why he is obviously that high ranked.
Sora whipes the floor against X Blade Armor Xehanort :p
It wAs 3 aGAinSt 1 yOU kNOw?
With help
Nice list, you should also do strongest jump force characters (( from the story of course)).
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Dope list bro and fan but quick question why do you have riku so low?
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Might wanna update this cuz of ReMIND
Mickey to fandom: am I a joke to you? Well too bad
Badass list with dope remix 9/10🔥🔥
This list is stupid and is not canon. It's got a lot of personal bias. Riku literally admitted defeat against Roxas before he accepted the dark power in him. Roxas in 2.5 HD vs. Sora says "I defeated a Riku once" when Sora asks "You aren't Riku?", and then he would've defeated Sora too but the ending surprised him where Sora wins, and Roxas responds "You make a good other"
Marluxia too low IMO if anything he’s below axel or Xion
the creator said the 3 strongest fighters in the organization were 1. xemnas 2. roxas and 3. was tied with lexaeus & xaldin before KH3
welp can't go against the creator lol
@@xXSonTJXx That's false I found no evidence that supports that claim Nomura never says outright who the strongest member of the original Organization 13 is; however, it is stated that in game that Xemnas is the most powerful.
@@superblanco444 If you play Rechain is it almost appears that Axel and Marluxia are evenly matched. But I think Marluxia would have won easily with his specter.
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Young Mechikabura really looks like Xemnas
Sora beat xehanort in Kingdom Hearts 3 idk why he isn’t number 1 🤦♂️
Blaze - ASAP because he had the help from donald and goofy
Their help of bond they share not their strength
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I'd move up Marluxia to about Axel level but aside from that good list
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Hades is a god you know
Yeah, in every list the gods are super low
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out of the currently active keyblade wielders:
*DISCLAIMER*
- this listing NOT as linear as it looks. a handful of characters can be grouped/"tiered" together. have fun tiering them yourself.
- there are NO guaranteed wins/loses, except for the obvious. have fun identifying said matchups yourself.
- MoM, Luxu, foretellers, dandelion leaders, luxord&demyx: *not enough info*
- I'll throw isa in for shits and giggles, but he may not have saïx's powers. for whatever reason, each nobody *slain by a keyblade* lost abilities (namely "dark corridor usage) upon their recompletion.
1. Sora
2. Riku
3. Mickey
4. Aqua
5. Terra
6. Roxas
7. Ventus
8. Isa
9. Lea
10. Xion
11. Kairi
Michey should be at least low than xion
People dont realize how strong Mickey is
Ikr
@@lunamiko9536 Im seeing so many people putting him outside top 8 hes really top 3 easy top debateable
@@Grown_B how strong mickey really is? He basically didn't do anything.
@@pedromoreira7162 Have you played the games lol
@@Grown_B you mean mickey games when he's the hero or kh games when he's the loser?
1.xblade xheanort
2. Sora
3.x-blade vanitias
4. twilight xemnas
5.terranort
6.Aqua/Terra
7.Riku
8.Ansem seeker of darkness
9.Eraqus
10.Yongh Xheanort
11.Ventus
12.Roxas
13.Xion
14.Saix
15.Axel
Terra > xemnas
Finaly someone understands that terra is not below Aqua
0. MoM
0.5 Foretellers
1. Master Xehanort (X-Blade)
2. Sora
3. Vanitas (X-Blade)
4. Twilight Xemnas
5. Donald (Zettaflare)
6. Terranort
7. Terra
8. Saix (Berzerk KH3)
9. Marluxia
10. Riku
11. Aqua
12. Mickey
13. Ansem, Seeker of Darkness
14. Master Eraqus
15. Young Xehanort
16. Luxu/Xigbar
17. Roxas
18. Ventus
19. Xion
20. Lea/Axel
21. Luxord
22. Larxene
Why Ven and roxas aren't stronger than ansem/xemnas ?
Hold up… shouldn’t Sephiroth be literally top 5?
Maleficent is one of the most powerful characters in Kingdom hearts series. She is literally the only existing villain/villainess with "all the powers of Hell under her command!" She's supposed to be the mistress of all evil, not just your typical witch/fairy. I personally think she is already extremely downgraded in comparisson with her Sleeping beauty role where she's the personification of darkness but even in KH she still deserves one of the top places and she's definitely stronger than the Organization XIII members when it comes to face to face combat.
santoouin you guys really act like top 30 is such a disrespect lol
@@xXSonTJXx Well, since we're talking about Maleficent, i would say she's really downgraded! Same goes for Hades, Jafar, Chernabog, Merlin and more Disney characters. All of them possess God-Level powers in their movies but they appear much weaker in Kingdom hearts. That's not your fault, ofcourse.
WTF Luxu and the foretellers are the strongest and master of masters is number 1
0. Master of Masters
1. Xehanort (x-blade)
2. Xemnas (Twilight)
Tied 3. Sora (Willpower/Power of Awakening/Full Power regained) / Yozora
4. Terranort
5. Terra
6. Aqua
7. King Mickey
8. Riku
9. Master Eraqus (old)
10. Ventus
11. Vanitas
12. Ansem Seeker of Darkness
13. Young Xehanort
14. Roxas (Dual Wield)
15. Saïx (Enpowered)
16. Xion
17. Axel
18. Xaldin
19. Lexaeus
20. Marluxia
Honorable Mentions:
- Odin
- Foretellers (Luxu, Ira, Invy, Aced, Gula, Ava)
- Yen Sid
- Sephiroth
- Greek Gods
- Jafar (Genie)
- Genie
- Demon Tide
- Darkness
For me Sora should not be stronger than ventus nor vanitas you forget ventus had to fight somebody with the strongest keyblade the keyblade x and who did he beat that had it vanitas also ventus has more experience than sora and he fought stronger enemies the unvered if u know the unveresed are stronger than heartless and nobodies also he has the d-links so he can use any speical moves of the people he meets or bonds with my fact show this truth idk why people say that ventus is soo weak and also roxas should be higher the top three so be 3:roxas 2:Sora 1: ventus because they are all main charcter im only putting roxas at 3 because when sora was younger he had more fighting experience
Roxas fanboys going hard in the comments.
Well if his placement is straight up false on a list like this, obviously criticism's gonna happen. He put Roxas lower than VENTUS and Riku ffs. Painfully wrong.
roxas' kh3 A.I. *can solo* saïx, but this guy still put him beneath saïx. seriously. stand still during that fight to watch roxas tear him apart without ever taking damage.
Am I the only sora fanboy
Nope He is the best Main Chat cheerful strong and Kind
Sora > xehanort
he needed help to beat him
No
Terra>Vanitas
Very inaccurate.
Only an idiot would still think that Terra or Aqua are stronger than Sora.
@@stampoulisrafail7836 Ok?
@@platinumvoid1648 You meant something diffrent...sorry.