Speedrunner beats the game in 5 minutes 3 seconds. Developer's first thought? "We should make an achievement for beating the game in under five minutes just to torment everyone". lol.
I imagine that you said it as a joke, but almost every game has a "no major glitchers" category! It is my favorite, I usually ignore all the others. Try watching "Super Mario World 2 - Yoshi's Island", it is an insane run!
The still has a few exploits, just none that can be reliably done in any kind of speedrun. Since they often rely on getting specific combinations of relics and that's not really going to happen. Though i do imagine eventually there will be a speedrun catagory for StS that uses certain game seeds so everybody will effectively be running the exact same spire.
Reminds me of something I heard about Titanfall 2 - apparently some bugfix/rebalancing patch fiddled with a singleplayer speedrun strat, so the devs reverted the fix for singleplayer exclusively
Yeah it was really decent of them, although... I won't name the specific strat but they did patch a couple of speedrun strats that made for some ridiculous runs, but the bugs/exploits undoubtedly massively supercharged normal runs and were very easy to replicate. Now I still think they exist but you need to do something very specific that no-one will accidentally stumble upon but afaik can be replicated by players if they know it.
Big thanks Casey and Anthony for doing this - it's humbling to say the least! I've had the pleasure of talking to them on a handful of occasions too, and they're exactly like this behind closed doors - warm-hearted, unashamedly nerdy goofballs who made a game they never foresaw being this successful and popular and are just kind of riding the wave without having it go to their heads. I no longer stream (real life work, relationships and physical health take precedence) but thanks to IGN's Mark Medina for getting in touch and being fully transparent, giving full credit and all that kinda stuff - super professional, decent bloke. I may do a throwback stream in early March just to see how bad I am at speedrunning now 😂 Peace and love, one and all Iain/Anti_Flame
What is with the pirate glasses? I thought you might be missing an eye, and had it to look somewhat normal, then you took them off and I was like..... uh, weird.
Me: Every spire run is a four hour adventure that sees me mulling over difficult choices for minutes at a time. This guy: Has finished a run in the time it takes me to decide what path to take. Though to be fair, he didn't take on The Heart. Would like to see how that goes for him packing the philosopher's stone and brimstone.
it's nice to see that the hacker from jurassic park survived mostly intact, besides losing his right eye, and now spends his time in a more honest way - speedrunning
I think that's to make sure he doesnt mistake where the cursor is at the speed he's going at. In other words, it helps with accuracy and reading when going that fast if you only use one eye because the two images you get from each eye can cross and make things hard to see sometimes, at least at that speed.
"He used the Artifact Potion, comboed with Flex to get permanent strength" - Wait, what? Are you saying you can use an artifact to negate the strength down? I had no idea that worked.
If you look closely at your buffs/debuffs, when you use Flex- you will see, that you do not gain "temporary" strength You gain normal strength and debuff - "remove 2(3) strength at the end of turn" So Artifact can get rid of that debuff
I love these kinds of videos to get an idea of how Developers react and feel to how speedrunners tear through through their game. From what I have seen, it's mixed depending on the developer.
In some cases speedrunners know their games better than they do, people think Speedrunner can just sit to a game and beat it fast but they spend months playing and looking into every little detail, and they have to like the game too obviously, to invest that amount of time.
@@geraltrivia9565 There is a speedrunner's explain to the dev for Portal where they're literally explaining their own game to them, so I'm pretty sure you're just wrong lol.
@@geraltrivia9565They definitely don’t “understand” how the game works on a technical more than the literal developers, but pros/speedrunners usually better understand how each of the mechanics fit together and interact. There’s a reason many games need playtesters, dedicated balance teams, and QA. Sometimes, devs don’t really know what kinds of effects minor decisions in their mechanics can have on the end product, and the most dedicated players are usually the ones who can sniff out the things that fall between the cracks.
@@dc_dachi They probably will understand the game more on a technical level for a lot of games, though. The devs usually only care if it works, and so might not know why what they just did actually made it work while programming.
@@sobtrax1846 They weren't really negative or anything but you could tell they disappointed at all the cool stuff they made getting skipped in a speed run.
Wouldn't surprise me; GF used to play games with a Wacom a few years back since she had a laptop but no mouse to go with it. So her choices were either that or the built-in trackpad. Makes dual-clicking, middle-click, and mouse-scroll a bit of a hassle though.
Huh, if he actionally is, I suppose that would make sense in a way, since you can technially move your pointer around much faster, and since most tablets are very programable, he could hotkey all the important things pretty easily. Makes me want to see if I could try a fps with my tablet.
Seeing the kinds of things that have a "speedrunner community" attached makes me want to develop a game called "navigate 4000 colorful menus and pet a dog"
They have to find record and watch it. Then editing and release. It can take weeks to get a video from recording to release. Especially on a channel with this many videos releasing. This might have been the most recent world record at the time of recording.
Making an “under 5 minutes achievement” would be eeeeevil, especially if you know how much people love showing off their 100% steam achievement list on the subreddits
I love seeing people completely destroy games like this. Im going into game development and this pleases me. Not to mention it also can help devs find certain game breaking exploits that can hurt the game as well as open their eyes to the ways in which certain mechanics intertwine. Speedruns are actually really insightful for both watchers as well as devs
This game is so awesome but infuriating as hell. Every time I get to act 3 and I see I'll be fighting Time Eater I want to jump off a goddamned bridge lol.
looks up jorbs on youtube follow his card picks and listen to his spire chats, you will get to ascension 20. beating the double boss is another story. i have tried 30 runs now and still have not done it.
@@RappingRain Time eater is the most luck based one, because even the amount of cards you can play is limited and makes the chances of a bad turn even higher
A lot devs don't mind glitches in general If they're glitches you'll never encounter casually but make speedruns faster a lot of them just think it's cool
Speedrunner beats the game in 5 minutes 3 seconds. Developer's first thought? "We should make an achievement for beating the game in under five minutes just to torment everyone". lol.
GENIUS
This is one of the best lines from any game developers I've ever heard
@@ninjastreet5 they should really do that haha
Give this man a shield
Perfect dev thought :)
Other games' speedrun techs: out of bounds adventures, air swimming, glitching.
Slay the Spire speedrun tech: play the game really fast
No reliable glitches or cheats in this game lel.
I imagine that you said it as a joke, but almost every game has a "no major glitchers" category! It is my favorite, I usually ignore all the others. Try watching "Super Mario World 2 - Yoshi's Island", it is an insane run!
There used to be the pandora's glitch though
The still has a few exploits, just none that can be reliably done in any kind of speedrun. Since they often rely on getting specific combinations of relics and that's not really going to happen. Though i do imagine eventually there will be a speedrun catagory for StS that uses certain game seeds so everybody will effectively be running the exact same spire.
Same with cup head they finish the whole game in less than half an hour
Really cool attitude of, "if its speedrunner friendly, and doesn't affect regular gameplay, why patch it" such a refreshing take from game devs
Reminds me of something I heard about Titanfall 2 - apparently some bugfix/rebalancing patch fiddled with a singleplayer speedrun strat, so the devs reverted the fix for singleplayer exclusively
It's the same as the Celeste devs.
D1's DongIs2Strong thats cool
D1's DongIs2Strong thats either slide hopping or grenade boosting. Both are exploits that you can do but they were left on the game on purpose.
Yeah it was really decent of them, although... I won't name the specific strat but they did patch a couple of speedrun strats that made for some ridiculous runs, but the bugs/exploits undoubtedly massively supercharged normal runs and were very easy to replicate. Now I still think they exist but you need to do something very specific that no-one will accidentally stumble upon but afaik can be replicated by players if they know it.
Big thanks Casey and Anthony for doing this - it's humbling to say the least! I've had the pleasure of talking to them on a handful of occasions too, and they're exactly like this behind closed doors - warm-hearted, unashamedly nerdy goofballs who made a game they never foresaw being this successful and popular and are just kind of riding the wave without having it go to their heads.
I no longer stream (real life work, relationships and physical health take precedence) but thanks to IGN's Mark Medina for getting in touch and being fully transparent, giving full credit and all that kinda stuff - super professional, decent bloke. I may do a throwback stream in early March just to see how bad I am at speedrunning now 😂
Peace and love, one and all
Iain/Anti_Flame
Ay ay captain!
Very unexpected to see you pop up on my reccomended feed, congrats man!
What is with the pirate glasses? I thought you might be missing an eye, and had it to look somewhat normal, then you took them off and I was like..... uh, weird.
fookin legend right here
@@kieronpixation5645 Pix! Man, I hope you're doing well!
...and if you think it was weird for you, imagine how I felt 😅
This series is an IGN 10/10 keep it up guys!
PEO PRODUCTIONS 7/10
9/10 has a little something for everyone
Meh
The guy finished it 5mins but with 3 sec.
Its a 7/10
i would rate this 10/10
but ign would rate this 7/10
Me: Every spire run is a four hour adventure that sees me mulling over difficult choices for minutes at a time.
This guy: Has finished a run in the time it takes me to decide what path to take.
Though to be fair, he didn't take on The Heart. Would like to see how that goes for him packing the philosopher's stone and brimstone.
A thing people forget is that as speedrunners, they're in like the top 0.1% for the thousands of hours they put into it
@@JohnyScissors they're supernerds
FOUR HOURS FOR ONE RUN!? Are you on ascension level 100 or something
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@@Adama.1 Just a bit of exaggeration for comedic effect.
@Nicholas O'Neil O U
I thought it was a joke when they said the run wasn’t seeded... looked up the seeded speedrun.
They use Neow's Lament on the first BOSS on Seeded wth...
I kinda want to see team cherry watch the hollow knight speedrun now.
I’m sure they’ve already seen speedruns of it, but ya it would have been cool.
they have seen it and love it but they can do one for silksong
I think there is an AGDQ where they guest commentry it.
Boozebeard There is another where they donated money to the runner
They certainly haven’t been speed running the silksong release date announcement 😢
This speedrunner the type of dude to smuggle dinosaur embryos in a Barbasol can.
Bahahha stoooooop
That ah joke finds a way, into my heart
Broooo ☠☠
Broooo ahahah
Brilliant 😆
"We should make an achievement, "Under 5 Mins" to troll them."
LOL. These guys are great. Guess I'll go buy the game now.
I used to speedrun this game and honestly the whole tech is just “think fast loser”
Which tells us about an outstanding quality of the game - your only constraint is yourself)
think fast chucklenuts
@@shikikan482 *BOINK*
he is a pirate, what you expect from a pirate ?!
swashbuckling?
Pirating... games?
rusA look at his eyes
@@F1rstNameLastName its a condition
He probably has epilepsy, if you cover one eye it prevents games and other strobing media from causing seizures.
Developers- “This game takes about an hour”
Speed runners- “Hold my energy drink, give me 5 minutes”
it's nice to see that the hacker from jurassic park survived mostly intact, besides losing his right eye, and now spends his time in a more honest way - speedrunning
This guy beat the game in the same amount of time it takes me to choose an act 1 path.
real
If the devs read these comments, this was GOTY for me.
It means so much for them coming from you
Due to the nature of the game one can't always speed run it perfectly all the time. But this is ridiculously impressive
I really love this "Devs react to Speedruns" series, keep it up!
I swear i could hear the Dev's utter "Newman" under their breaths.
Lol. My thoughts exactly. If Newman was a speedrunner.
I know I did!
hello jerry
😂🤣
Plurals don’t use apostrophes
I love slay the spire as it is but hearing how chill the developers are somehow made it better.
This one should be called "Developers have no time to react.."
The runner looks like the bad guy from Jurassic Park.
Wayne Knight I think.
His son i suppose.
Hello Newman
@chubbyurma DODGSON! WE GOT DODGSON HERE!!!
Dennis 😂😂😂
I love these. Always gets a great perspective into the game. Will forever support it.
Mega Crit Games: "Why would we fix really rare bugs that are beneficial to speed runs?"
Team Cherry: Hold my nail.
Fun fact: they made some skips literally for speedrunners
@@disc_00 I think they said somewhere that the Watcher skip was intended (probably Crystal cave's double jump too). What other ones?
That guy looks like he's crying inside
:(
@@Anti-Flame What's going on with your glasses did the inside / outside len transition break?
guy looks like the dude in jurassic park
He's def crying because he lost 25ish seconds by not using smoke bomb on giant head lol
@@kratchet559 XD
I love this series IGN it's wonderful.I get so excited when a new video comes out.
Love to see Devs seeing how fast a person can defeat their game so quickly!
I mean... In five minutes i would've just picked my path.
This speedruns were rehearsed tho
facts.
@@feminico2613 Genuinely and?
negating the flex debuff with artifact is genius
Looks like Nedry was on his way to Jurassic Park but wound up in the Matrix.
Lmao dude
“We’ve got Morpheus here! See, nobody cares.”
when he can speed run with one eyes 👀
😍😍😍🥵🥵🥵
I think that's to make sure he doesnt mistake where the cursor is at the speed he's going at. In other words, it helps with accuracy and reading when going that fast if you only use one eye because the two images you get from each eye can cross and make things hard to see sometimes, at least at that speed.
@@SuppositionalBox Wow, is this serious? haha I thought it was just for "cool" effect idk.
Yayyy! So happy to see another entry into this awesome series!
Pleasantly surprised IGN is covering STS in the current year.
"He used the Artifact Potion, comboed with Flex to get permanent strength" - Wait, what? Are you saying you can use an artifact to negate the strength down? I had no idea that worked.
Makes sense now that I think about it but it only lasts 1 fight
If you look closely at your buffs/debuffs, when you use Flex- you will see, that you do not gain "temporary" strength
You gain normal strength and debuff - "remove 2(3) strength at the end of turn"
So Artifact can get rid of that debuff
Iirc there's an enemy that literally uses that strat
I’m really enjoying these videos. I love the input from the devs and see what they think.
I love these kinds of videos to get an idea of how Developers react and feel to how speedrunners tear through through their game. From what I have seen, it's mixed depending on the developer.
In some cases speedrunners know their games better than they do, people think Speedrunner can just sit to a game and beat it fast but they spend months playing and looking into every little detail, and they have to like the game too obviously, to invest that amount of time.
@@jazz8000speed runners def don’t know the game better than the devs lmao
@@geraltrivia9565 There is a speedrunner's explain to the dev for Portal where they're literally explaining their own game to them, so I'm pretty sure you're just wrong lol.
@@geraltrivia9565They definitely don’t “understand” how the game works on a technical more than the literal developers, but pros/speedrunners usually better understand how each of the mechanics fit together and interact.
There’s a reason many games need playtesters, dedicated balance teams, and QA. Sometimes, devs don’t really know what kinds of effects minor decisions in their mechanics can have on the end product, and the most dedicated players are usually the ones who can sniff out the things that fall between the cracks.
@@dc_dachi They probably will understand the game more on a technical level for a lot of games, though. The devs usually only care if it works, and so might not know why what they just did actually made it work while programming.
The character’s helmet and even his stance reminds me of Hakumen from the Blazblue series!!!
the helmet reminds me of ZA WARUDO'S face
DarkeDix ZA WARUDO
I think that he wasn’t using hotkeys because this was before hotkeys were added to the game.
5:33 this comment convinced me that they are the creators of this game lol
speedrunning was invented when david speedrun tried to play the game twice at the same time.
this is gold but youre talking it to the wrong crowd
@@badmanjones179 Is he? No one is gonna defend the honor of speedrunning, its just a joke
@@user-ux4gu2lh8c no i meant in the opposite way, like thats *gold* but he needs an audience who will appreciate it more than youtube comment thread
ATTENTION OUTLAST 2 LEAD DEVELOPERS: This is how you should react to a speedrun.
What did they do)
Luke Williams ?
what did they do
@@sobtrax1846 They weren't really negative or anything but you could tell they disappointed at all the cool stuff they made getting skipped in a speed run.
Troy Moore yeah some dev or ppl dont like speed runners, i can understand they really put effort in the game and wanted ppl to enjoy/ immerse with it
this speedrun is insane, it looks as if the video is at x2
This is what it truly means to have the heart of the cards
From the way his cursor's moving it looks more like he's using an art tablet than a mouse.
Wouldn't surprise me; GF used to play games with a Wacom a few years back since she had a laptop but no mouse to go with it. So her choices were either that or the built-in trackpad.
Makes dual-clicking, middle-click, and mouse-scroll a bit of a hassle though.
@@airthefallen
If he's using an Intuos there's a double-click button on the stylus and an Ipod-style touchwheel you could use as a mousewheel.
@@CruelestChris Oh that's useful! I believe my GF mentioned her old tablet was a Bamboo so I'm not sure how much the two are different.
Huh, if he actionally is, I suppose that would make sense in a way, since you can technially move your pointer around much faster, and since most tablets are very programable, he could hotkey all the important things pretty easily.
Makes me want to see if I could try a fps with my tablet.
@@FastForwardPlans Bad idea because tablets use absolute positioning, so you will spin like a crazy... thing
Love this series of developers react to speedrun!
I been waiting for this type of videos
They seem cool and this was neat to watch, great video!
I went to school with Casey! Loved Slay the Spire guys! Keep up the great work! !!!
I love watching these. Please do more.
No one:
The thumbnail: *wryyyy*
I love this game beyond SO MANY others. The assassin is my favorite.
I love these vids keep em coming!
Please keep this series going!
This is one of those speedruns where you have absolutely no idea what's happening when you didn't play the game yourself
I'm the type of guy that re- reads each card effect.
Love these videos
goddamn, this really is "blink and you miss it"
More like: "Blink once and you miss half the speedrun!"
Seeing the kinds of things that have a "speedrunner community" attached makes me want to develop a game called "navigate 4000 colorful menus and pet a dog"
This series is great I just still can't understand why the actual world record a.k.a the fastest run is never picked for the reaction.
It is an actual world record run. Just not the current world record.
Maybe it is too fast lol
That always changes and becomes outdated so meh, doesn't really matter if it's the 5m03s run or the 5m02s one.
They have to find record and watch it.
Then editing and release.
It can take weeks to get a video from recording to release. Especially on a channel with this many videos releasing.
This might have been the most recent world record at the time of recording.
afaik they need the speedrunner to approve the use of the vid
Finally! MORE OF THESE!
Say what you want, but that thumbnail made all of us jojo fans immediately think of za warudo. If it didn’t before, it did now
I want so much more of these vids
5/7 It really makes you FEEL like a developer.
The character in the thumbnail looks like ZA WARUDO.
Lol exactly my thoughts, I don't even know this game, I just clicked it to see comments like this
Wry my friend
Lol exactly
@@italiansoldierfromww2460 same
Most original series on TH-cam. 😍
In his early years, Newmann tried speedrunning before settling into a position as a postman for the United States Postal Service.
Best format on IGN :)!
You guys should really have a speedrunner in the call as well, to explain techniques the developers don't know
They only have 5 minutes, they dont have time for a 3rd person.
"He's going really fast".
This is dope content IGN
He could have used the smoke potion to evade the head elite and save like 30seconds
I like this. I enjoy them responding to it on the gdq couch.
Making an “under 5 minutes achievement” would be eeeeevil, especially if you know how much people love showing off their 100% steam achievement list on the subreddits
Me: Hasn’t come close to 20 minutes achievement.
Devs: Let’s make a 5 minute one.
This series is awesome
anti_flame is such a cool dood
These are fun to watch
I love seeing people completely destroy games like this. Im going into game development and this pleases me. Not to mention it also can help devs find certain game breaking exploits that can hurt the game as well as open their eyes to the ways in which certain mechanics intertwine. Speedruns are actually really insightful for both watchers as well as devs
So stressful, but this also shows how broken a Whirlwind deck is for A0.
I though it was some Jojo spinoff with that THE WORLD character up-front. 😂
Well, with the game being beaten in 5 min, he may have use Za Warudo!
Yeah its kinda crazy how someone made the tarot cards from jojo...
The thumbnail look like the Dio stand "Za Warudo"
Speedrunner be like "5 minutes have passed"
Took me around ~32 mins to beat the heart both times with casual lightning combo... Speedrunners are something else
Someone explain glasses please
No.
glasses can help you to see better if your vision is bad
Does nobody else find it disturbing that the reaction to the writhing mass is "oh that guy's fun"
AND HE DID IT W/ ONE EYE!!!
Whirlwind goes brrrr
This game is so awesome but infuriating as hell. Every time I get to act 3 and I see I'll be fighting Time Eater I want to jump off a goddamned bridge lol.
that f'ing thing is cold clocked my silent run so many times
looks up jorbs on youtube follow his card picks and listen to his spire chats, you will get to ascension 20. beating the double boss is another story. i have tried 30 runs now and still have not done it.
@@MrSafer Jesus. I'm just over here, proud of having made it to Act 4 for the first time 😑
Time Eater is by far the easiest act three boss in my opinion. Awakened One and Donu and Deca are far tougher in my opinion.
@@RappingRain Time eater is the most luck based one, because even the amount of cards you can play is limited and makes the chances of a bad turn even higher
I like these speedrun videos
Its actually 100 hours run, he just used his stand to stop time lol
@@VoidToad WRYYYYYYY
The adds before the video started took longer than the speed run...
As a game design student I love this serie
What are the one black lens glasses for??? Are they not going to mention that???
it's probably just some kind of eye condition
Today I learned:
-Speed run bugs exist
-Game developers dont mind them as long as they dont affect normal gameplay
A lot devs don't mind glitches in general
If they're glitches you'll never encounter casually but make speedruns faster a lot of them just think it's cool
Others hunt cool glitches down for no good reason. it depends on the devs
The average run taking an hour makes me feel so much better at the game. It usually takes me 30-40 minutes and that's when I'm playing it slow
This is just insane to watch
Cool glasses... err.. cool glass!
mom: dinner will be ready in 5 minutes
me:
And then there's me taking half an hour to work out a way to one-turn Donu and Deca
Clicking because THE WORLD is on the thumbnail
Why is one lens of his glasses dark?