TFL Behind the Scenes of the 2015 Audi S3 vs BMW 228i Drag Race Surprise Result
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- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The 2015 Audi S3 and the 2015 BMW 228i are two fast turbo-charged German sedans, but in this Mashup drag race the results surprised us. We decided to do a bit more 0-60 MPH testing and in the TFL Behind the Scenes video we sh0-60 are the results with you.
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I do not own either car. I also don't even really care. But this is without a doubt the worst representation/comparison of two cars that I've ever seen.
Its hard to compare two cars when you completely handicap one with not knowing how to launch or how to use a dsg transmission.
All Audi DSG when going from Park to Drive start in 2nd gear. Because 1st gear and Reverse use the same clutch. The only way around this is to rollout to engage 1stbor use launch control.
There is a major difference between turbo lag and starting in 2nd gear.. I guess a dual clutch transmission is too advanced or complicated for this idiot.
THIS
I have a 2015 Golf R, and I always drive with the engine in sport and sport ESC, so all I have to do is foot on the brake, floor the gas, and let off the brake at 4000 RPM. That's about as easy as it gets in the real world. What they are experiencing in this video is more a function of DSG lag off the line than turbo lag. Unlike the torque converter auto BMW, the DSG engages a clutch for you every time you launch or shift, and it wants to have a smooth, non jarring launch and it engages the clutch with that in mind. It will not give you full power until the clutch is all the way released, no matter how buried the throttle is. You can help minimize that lag by being in sport mode and letting off the brake prior to leaving a stop, but launch control is the only way to completely avoid it. It certainly isn't time consuming or hard to engage the launch control in the S3, so in my opinion that is the real world way they should test it.
that's correct.. this video is not good, and to launch an Audi you need to press on the brakes with full gas and then release the brakes.. it will fly
I am really sorry but this video is saying that you don't know how to drive
Um... this dude didn't even put the car in "dynamic" mode. Seriously... in comfort mode, it cuts the power.
Launch Control takes too long? Yes, shutting off TC and flooring it just takes forever.
And if you're driving with traction control off, you just need to floor it...
Thanks for the comment but we've found that the drivers who think launch control is easy to engage....have never done so.
The Fast Lane Car Audi's launch control is one of the easiest to engage on the market. BMW's one is in the other end of the scale.
sic22l We've found the the GT-R is the easiest to launch. Audi is somewhere in the middle. The BMW system is almost impossible.
How come launching my manual transmission vehicle never takes very long at all to engage launch control, somewhere in the 1-25 millisecond range....come to think about it, my manual transmission launches hard and fast 100% of the time I want and soft and luxurious 100% of the time I ask it to, I don't even have to go into the settings or try to figure out how to change the shift logic.
#savethemanuals
P.S. When everyone here says "launch control" do they mean letting off the clutch slower/smoother? My launch control works even on cars from the 60's.
The best mods are made to the driver, not the car.
I always thought this kind of thing occurred because TFL lived in the stratosphere.
on the second launch control run you were on tip-tronic mode and you werent shifting. you basically let the car to up shift at red line. this explains why you were much slower.
i've been following you guys for over a year because i think you guys are pretty fair and really give us real world results, but this video really pulls me way off. i'm not saying you done this on purpose but i dont believe you didnt realize it either.
You are absolutly right, he did not launch the car properly both times.
Thanks for the comment, but like we said earlier. Launch control is hardly ever easy to engage. The manufacturers make it hard on purpose. They don't want owners detonating their transmissions. It is something that's rarely in real world driving. The only launch control system that we've tested that's easy to use is the GT-R. The rest you have to almost always crack the owners manual and even then their multiple setting that have to be just right plus the car's computer has to allow it. Unless you've had real world experience with launch control it is way to easy and way too wrong to armchair quarterback our results.
The Fast Lane Car once again wrong, I launch my car multiple times with no issues, as you proved in the video you do not know how to launch the car properly. also traction control should have been off in your pedal mashing theory.
The Fast Lane Car
I didnt say you were wrong about the launch control, I'm trying to point out why you were slower on the second run. You were in Manual mode and the car is upshift at red line. this will only make the car run slower. switching into sport mode on an audi is different than on the bimmer. you wanna make sure the gear indicator on the dash says S1 instead of M1
Nison L. Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated!
Launch Control! in Dynamic!
The commenters who mentioned the transmission factor were spot on. The DCT of the S3 will lag from idle. As a prior owner of 2 EVO MRs with DCTs this was a constant issue with the cars lurching forward off idle. For daily driving acceleration comparisons I would prefer a 5-60mph run since the vehicle is already rolling and you are just accelerating and letting the car do it's thing.
Beemer did 5.75, Audi did 5.48, so an absolutely minimal difference. BUT WHY DIDN'T YOU MAKE ANOTHER DRAG RACE VIDEO USING THE LAUCH CONTROL?
because that would have been smart.
FinneousPJ1 the Bmw also has launch control. the 5.75 was without it. I would be interested to see how they compare when they are both using it.
There's a bloody good reason why BMW use a twin scroll turbocharger, and you've just seen it !!!!
Yeah no lag but less powerfull... Single turbo give to you
more power and for a longer period of time in each gear
O have a 228i
@@vitormendes3310I have a 228i and it's a twin scroll single turbo (BMW TwinPower Turbo) vs a twin turbo (BMW TwinTurbo Power) in other models. Twin scroll turbos have 2 channels in 1 turbo charger, usually 1 small channel for fast air to spool up the turbo and a larger channel for more air. It's really confusing how BMW labels it
i want to ask you a question, did you moved from N to D or S quickly and just take off?? if yes, that explains why, because when you put the Audi in the D , it start first with 2d gear the downs to the frist gear, you have to wait a second then to launch
it is not a matter of turbo lag, it is because of the gearbox, get used to DSG/S-Tronic and you will understand.. I've had stage 2 mk6 gti and stage 2 mk7 gti, the gearbox won't fully engage from start unless you use launch control
You can see the driver of the BMW brake torquing the car. The car lurches forward and the brake lights are still on. The Audi though was not launched using launch control. The brake was released and then it was floored. Thats why the Audi had lag.. The BMW didn't because it was launched correctly.
Ik right how can they not see this
Exactly. Dumb video is dumb.
The BMW was definitely brake boosting.You can see it "squat" just before it takes off.I am surprised that TFL did not notice.I agree with the general consensus that you did not know
how to launch the Audi properly.The drivers should have also exchanged cars.
Keep making excuses haha your audi lost in this situation get over it.
Max Power Ha!..ha! don't care if the Audi lost or won.The discussion centered on the take off technique.The film did show the "test" was flawed.
BMW is doing a remarkable job with turbos. Many of their engines are hitting peak torque at a mere 1500 rpm.
This isn't turbo lag, the dsg transmission starts in 2nd, also looks like you are running in comfort mode. I can get much quicker times in mine without launch control.
DSG always starts in 1st gear.
and never launch control start in 2nd gear
WRONG, not turbo lag. Launch Control.... DSG has to slip the clutch for easy take offs and it's the reason why it has a slow take off. It is NOT Turbo Lag. You guys are not using the launch control so it engages the DSG immediately. That S3 runs 4.6 0-60 with Launch Control.
Kudos for making this second test, it shows a lot that you care for your fans and can take criticism in a constructive way. Now, to clear out the matter I would try the drag race with manual gearbox on both models. BTW automatics are for the weak
The guy he drive Audi he don’t know how race or drive 🤦🏽
Lost credibility with me. Unsubscribe.
Must be something in the air. Every single test out there shows that S3 is quicker especially over 1/4 mile. But it is great that there are cheaper options to go quickly.
the s3 CLEARLY was started in 2nd gear lol. PUT IT IN DYNAMIC MODE !! the audi has launch control.. USE IT lol
The bmw puts all its torque down at 1500rpm
@BMW F25 X3 R Spec the S3 is definitely quicker and faster than the 228i.
My mk7 Gti walked a 228i and a 230i, and it’s basically an A3, not even an S3.
This test was shit, both cars have launch control and the S3 is faster in every way.
A3 is more inline with the 228i, and the S3 is more like an M235i.
Look at test results if you don’t believe me, it’s just a fact.
And the S3 is more often than not in 2wd, and it has even less drivetrain loss than the bmw too.
Andrew Denisyuk you sound mad
Thanks for video. Bad launches by the Audi & you mentioned a 6 speed S-Tronic, i'm pretty sure its a 7 speed.
It's not turbo lag... Every Audi with auto trans and quattro has this hesitation from start, if you don't know how to drive them. I had an A8 with gobs of torque and over 300 hp do this, and had the same hesitance with my old A4 and A6. The A8 and A6 were normally aspirated so how could it be turbo lag? Duh! Left in regular drive mode, the software ninnies try to avoid wheel spin, if that makes any sense...maybe that means a launch in 2nd, as stated by others. You put them in manual or sport mode and they blast off.
Really useful video, explains a lot and helps understand how things differ. Thank you.
You are most welcome. We wanted to make sure to give you the entire story test. Thanks for watching.
It's actually more of a matter involving the transmissions. Manly comes down to a torque converter vs clutches. You can't brake torque a clutch and a torque converter can double torque immediately off the line. Leaving the DSG in normal mode while expecting it to accelerate quickly is like expecting to launch a normal manual car hard at 1000rpm, it's not going to happen, it will bog down and possibly even stall.
Car nut just proved that this video is BS and the dude doesn't know how to drive, just FYI I put down 4.8 consistently with my s3, at altitude, in the middle of the day during 78 degree weather, utilizing vbox performance to measure.
That's gps btw, the box it self reads 4.5 - 4.6.
Car Nut Very good information!
Ok? So I have seen a S3 sedan win a drag race against BMW M4 so I should buy a 228i because its faster than both S3 and M4 wohooo
You gotta hold down the brake firmly to get a clean launch. Dont let rev linger at 4000 just get there and break loose. It takes a little bit of getting used to like all new cars.
Remember turbo lag is amplified in heat or at altitude. The S3 is just about bearable (but pretty poor) around or just over sea level. At a mile up it must be laggy as hell. The BMW doesn't really have turbo lag - it's hardly noticeable that it's turbocharged when driving it normally so a mile up it will have a big advantage in response. This is the difference between engineering for numbers (to brag to other people) and engineering for reliable results in all conditions.
These guys should watch this video about Audi's dual clutch : th-cam.com/video/7tnAEApKJoY/w-d-xo.htmlm34s
Bottom line, when you first shift from park into Drive on the S-Tronic, the transmission starts from 2nd gear for 2 seconds or until the cars begins moving. This only happens once after shifting from park.
So in the test, it looks like they were starting from 2nd gear according to this (which would not be the case for anyone attempting to beat a 228i at a stoplight).
So here's a question I haven't seen answered: Was the S3 engine in "dynamic" mode, or comfort or auto? And, was the shifter in "drive" or "sport" mode? And yes, each of these questions relates to separate functions of the Audi.
My friend has an S3 exactly like that one. Its pretty quick!
I tested drive Audi A3 2018 2.0T. I don’t really like the way it drives. When I floor the gas, it jerks. It’s not as smooth as bmw. I tested drive bmw 230i 2018. People say bmw steeringwheel is heavy but it is not heavy as my old infinity 1999 or Lexus 2004.
Roman- Why didn't you have launch control on during the drag race?
Use launch control and don't cry.
So, this is it, guys, the definitive answer to the great " Is it turbo lag or is it clutch " debate. We should have known you can rely on the genius of Uncle Roman to shed light into the darkest corners of a problem which has exercised the greatest minds on TH-cam. The sense of relief is tangible. SO, LET'S HEAR IT FOR UNCLE ROMAN !!!!!!!
With the S3 it's 70% transmission and 30% lag.
Car Nut From where, exactly, did you pull these numbers ? My money is on from out of your arse, but I'm willing to listen to your side of the story.
Educated guess, and besides my point was it's not solely 'turbo lag'. Imagine launching a WRX at 1000rpm and expecting it to leap off the line, it's not going to happen... that's effectively what they're doing with the S3 by straight out flooring it. It's more to do with boost threshold then lag and not having a torque converter to immediately multiply torque off the line like the BMW.
Car Nut " Educated guess " ??? So, I was right. ;-)))
Turbo lag could have been overcome. The biggest difference is rear wheel drive vs awd. Powering four wheels saps power.Twin turbos are a pretty big deal too.
why brake torquing the BMW but not Audi in the race?
this is bullshit. I ate a 235i with my s3. 4 wheel drive, launch control
The M235i was used during the 0-60 run, that’s not a 4 cylinder sound
I like the mash up.
I figured the Audi was suffering with a case of turbo lag. But, I am glad y'all made a video the clarify for those who thought it was by human error
Comments are mostly ill-informed and presenters didn't quite get it right too:
1) AWD is NOT typically faster off the line (launching) than an RWD. This is a misconception. This is due to the static rotational weight that must get moving to get the car off the line. Exact same cars that have the same engine and weight but with AWD vs RWD, the RWD will launch ahead of the AWD every time simply due to physics. The advantage of AWD will only come into play when the road surface restricts the traction that the tyres have, ie when it is wet.
2) Though "Turbo Lag" does play a part in the initial acceleration of the Audi, it is not the whole story. The presenter alluded to it when he talked about "Throttle Lag". The Audi is slow off the line because the stupid interfering computers fly by wire system restrict the engine output when you ask "100% throttle". The BMW does this too but it does not nearly seem as aggravating as the Audi.
With 1 and 2 combined it is easy to understand how the drag race played out. Once a car with similar power to weight ratio (remember the Audi does have more power but is heavier) gets a 10-20 meter launch on you it is very difficult to reel them back in unless you have loads more power. The Audi has a bit more power but not that much more.
Go to a driving school or something my s3 smokes the ish out of tuned bmw 435i 535 all that from the dig
From experience driving my audi S3 I was able to pull a 4.2 0-60 at 890 feet above sea level in 55 degree weather.
But Launch is not always the same because if you dont leave on full boost it wont be as fast.
I ran a 13.04 at 103.90 with the DA at 1200 feet above sea level.
I think it would run faster but I was not able to time the lights at the race track to leaving on full bars for boost.
I can totally understand how the car is a dog without using launch control especially at over a mile above sea level!
my 2015 s3 is dead without launch control for the first 1.5 seconds until boost comes on.
Being that high above sea level makes these figures not that useful for those of us living at normal levels. But its interesting to see the differences using launch control.
Roman makes a great point about launch control. Like when was the last time you used launch control at a red light in your Audi or BMW ? Why do cars come standard with this type of useless stuff ? Even on a circuit, in a starting grid you would use launch control and then what ? Hell with such useless features, I just put it in 1st, rev to 5000 and dump the clutch. Great mash-up though !!
If the Audi s3 has a haldex center differential, there's a good chance there is torque limiting in first gear.
Or it's a dsg thing. My mom's golf 2.5, although not awd, won't give you full torque off the line. Even when launched from ~2000 rpm.
BFMV409 Golf 2.5 doesn't have DSG.
You're right. I was mistaken.
Lol turbo lag is your excuse? Switch cars with Andre and you would lose in the bmw. You dont know how to drive you need to hold boost at 4k then stomp it. Your "real world testing" is trash all the time you switch back and forth between launch and no launch. The car is awd it needs to be launched
I sincerely prefer a faster response when overtaking than when starting from a traffic light... And all in all it's hard to believe those results when they are put face to face...
probably the driver on the right was afraid to press the gas pedal😂😂😂
why dosnt u rev it before u go?
Shouldn't it be the m235 vs the audi s3? dont see the point of this comparison
They are both 2.0 turbo cars.
So either way the S3 is faster, if I'm racing I will use launch control, takes 5 seconds to set up, not enough time?
It takes 1-2 seconds to set up launch control. Put the car in dynamic mode, turn off traction control, and it is ready to launch. I have the mechanical twin to the S3, the 2015 Golf R, and my default driving mode is sport for the engine and sport ESC (traction control off) so I am always ready to use launch control if I need to.
At 5:24 the transmission is on Manual and not sport.. that why it not worker the second time, btw I have one of these and this car is very powerful... can't wait to go on track next summer
You guys are a big joke on the audi forums with this video. Horrible job comparing these two cars. Jeesh
Something called launch control
The guy in audi can't drive!
Absolutely correct, the driver is an idiot
I was going to make a comment about how this guy can't drive or just does not understand how to use Launch control..But it looks like many people already posted it.. The Audi actually runs 0-60 in about 4.2 sec it's quicker than the actual times Audi says 4.7 I think... To put the car in launch control you have to put the car in dynamic mode and turn off all the traction control.. Then push the brake and give it full gas.. Release the brake when ready.
So audi claims 4.7 to 60mph and C&D tested 4.4 to 60. Something is wrong with your testing if you are getting 5.1 for your fastest run.
They are way above sea level. That effect performance big time.
The power rating on the Audi is not impressive it's the refinement of that power from that displacement. Let's face it that power from that displacement has been a common place for let's say lancer evo. The power on evos is not nearly refined though.
No launch control on the Audi S3? How much did BMW pay you?
the problem is the bad gas in the US.... 91 is common there right? we have here in europe 95, 98 and 100+
But your gas is rated differently, we use RON as the octane rating, check out the TH-cam video by engineering explained called "does Europe have higher octane gas? Ron vs mon vs aki"
Paul4186 The 2.0 TFSI wasnt developped for the US market. The old S3 (with the same engine) did 235 hp (as far as i know) in the US and the same car did here in Europe 265 just because of the fuel. A friend of mine is dynoing import cars (mostly shelbys and vettes) and he always said they do around 5-10% more hp with european fuel.
US 91 premium is a equivalent of EU's 95.
sic22l
My car declarates that US 91 is okay for the car withouth damaging it but i have to know that i have less power
Benjamin Ott What? US 91 is the better fuel there because there's also 87-octane gas (equivalent to EU's former 91). Audi or Volkswagen recommend to use premium-91 in the US as their cars will loose power on 87..
Does the S3 have less power in the US? I've seen videos of the euro spec model beating a M135i....wtf I'm not complaining though I have 228I Sport. 8 )
He is 1 mile above sea level, engine don't work same a this altitude, there is less oxygene
Aurelien A.
Yes and turbos rely on air to work properly also, without more oxygen to pump in to the engine the turbos are pretty much useless
S Miller He didn't even test the BMW with Launch Control. I'm pretty sure the M-Sport package comes with it. Also they're both turbo charged 2.0L?
you are not driving the Audi in Dynamic i can hear it
Funny I just bought an s3 today, and it took of a lot faster than that, you wouldn't even notice the turbo lag. Something is not right there!!
It should be 4.8 sec with launch control
Real life is not audi #
+Alexandre Jorge they are 1mile above sea level, all cars they test are slower than the manufacturers specs
if 228i beats the S3 already, the M235i will destroy it
Can't wait for the //M2
R-N- M did you watch the video ?? cause it seems NOT. the s3 with the QUATTRO tech leaves it behind in secs....
m235 will . unless you chip it. then it would be the same. the audi will be the fastest. UNTIL the new AWD bmw arrives.
Josegabrielscekic Salazar watch the chris harris video of the S3 vs M135i... The 135i pulls ahead of the S3 in a drag race and destroys it dynamically around the track, by not having the understeer of a Passat!
"Dear S3 and 228i, you guys are cute" - CLA45
"Dear CLA45, you're one of the ugliest cars MB has ever produced and I'm coming to take your lunch money." - RS3
"Lol" -RS3
eb18bulls LMAO - killed you before several times, and with two very confortable grownups in the backseat !!!!S3 REVO STAGE 1
Something is fishy with this video
It's because Roman weighs over 300lbs
these are the worst drivers ive ever seen
Really? I drive an S3 sedan and I have NEVER, repeat NEVER, experienced a lag like this! You did fall asleep...
This car may not be the fastest thing on 4 wheels but expecting and gaining sub 5 sec runs 0-100kph are realistic.
WHEELS Magazine managed a 4.8s run and a string of 4.9s.
I think you had a dud driver and/or a dud vehicle...
Whats funny also is that amateurs have made videos of themselves launching the car 0-60 in 4.4 seconds. Something, doesn't smell right in the state of denmark. I have launched my S3 at roughly 4.5 seconds but we did it buy hand.
You guys should look up those videos and release a disclaimer lol selling false advertisement. This reminds me of the Tesla test were they drove it all day then tested it and said he didn't go as far as they said it would. You guys like beamers better huh? That turbo should have kicked right after launch cause mine does every single time.
+Latrelle Brown they are 1mile above sea level, all cars they test are way slower than normal. Even the gtr was in the high 3's low 4's for example
Jeez. Driver error on an auto.... pretty bad guys
What a bunch of clowns, maybe Audi didn't pay enough for a clean launch controlled start lol
Is no one going to admit the fact that with launch control the Audi was faster from 0-60
These guys drive me nuts! Don't you think if your going to test cars for a living, you would have heard of LAUNCH CONTROL and know how to use it?!
Put better drivers in both cars, and run them at sea level. And then see what happens..
Top Gear shows the M235i as doing 0-100km/hr in 4.8seconds while the 2015 S3 they show 4.9seconds. So...one tenth of a second away from each other....and mind you...THAT'S THE M....YUP...M235i. Not the 228i. Yea...
Thats unfair!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Use Audi's launch control when drag racing!!! The Audi is faster!!!! S3's 5.4sec is quicker than 228i's 5.7sec
##### GreatestAudiFan
I've always heard BMW underrates it's engines, maybe there isn't really a 52hp difference?
VAG underrates their engines as well.
I don't know how these guys get to do these tests, personally i think they are nice guys but have no clue what they are doing.
Twin turbo charged = turbo twin scroll, non biturbo!!
Needs a anti lag system
It has one, it's called launch control.
Do you know what Anit lag is? sic22l
Mini Moto 1. I know, it's not for personal vehicles.
2. S3 doesn't need one because what we've seen wasn't a turbo lag but "dsg/clutch lag".
sic22l It really was both they even said it. If they made a smaller turbo that spooled up quicker and a DCTCT trans it would've kicked the Beamers butt. I like Audi styling and living in northern states the Quattro system would be beneficial in snow. Both cars are good.
sic22l Thanks you! Someone who knows what the lag really is. They both have lag off the line especially at that altitude but the majority of the issue is with the S3 is associated with the transmission.
There had to be an issue with that car.
U cant launch the Audi S3.. The S3 does 0-100 in 5.2 WITHOUT LC, with LC it does it in 4.6 Seconds.. The 228i in this video does 0-60 in 5.8 and win the race? So you mean 300HP S3 does 0-60 in like 7 seconds? You guys cant drive this car at all. BMW Fanboys.
+HDAcceleration they are 1mile above sea level, all cars are way slower than normal. The audi is clearly the quicker car here, it was just launched poorly on the "drag race"
Lol the S series with quad tips get 0-60 mph under 5 seconds. The 228i does it it barely under 6 seconds. Who tf is driving that s3
Wdym the 230i is around 5.2 seconds lol
@@zachmartini1684 230I which comes with v6, 228i has 4 cyclinder turbo, in real time conditions it gets 0-60 around mid 5s
Status External, hmm I see, I mean I have a 230i and it’s 0-60 is in the low 5s, it’s a 2.0l 4 Cylinder btw, but anyways the engines is a little bigger and does produce 250 hp although many article have proven the 230i to actually have 270 hp
@@zachmartini1684 I also own a 230i (2019 model, F22) and I agree with you on the 0-60, I've spent half an hour warming up the engine and timed it with an app using launch control (in my opinion the LC is a bit of a faff to set up, I have the automatic trans version) and was fairly consistent at 5.2 seconds to 60. The engine is surprisingly powerful and responsive, I've surprised cars on the road that by all rights should smoke me easily (like S3's, Golf R's, and once an A35 AMG), so it definitely depends a lot on the driver.
does this guy knows what is traction control? yeah, turn it off on audi, and try again.
Driver error.
they need some experience driver to compare those vehicle, have no idea about functionality
Even if the 2 series ran a 3 second 0-60 I'd still never buy it. It is probably THE ugliest bummer ever created. Talk about ugly ducking. Just looks like the 5 series and 1 series were first cousins and had a baby.
That's to much lag. I ain't never cared for Turbos and this is why... if you are in traffic and you really need to scoot ain't nobody got time to do all that launch control junk... I prefer supercharger
You don't notice that at traffic speeds. And plus, they're a mile above sea level which makes the car a whole second slower.
You're right I'm just more of a supercharger guy growing up with GM supercharged 3800s they spoil you with power and reliability and they sound good.
launch control the Audi properly ...
uyasi nyela wena... sqedela ama data
I knew it was turbo lag. But a 235i will put that s3 to shame.
shame on stupid driver
KHD what?
Jonathan Washington wrong
Drag race both cars doesn’t use launch control in the race. This review sucks. Next time use a real driver who knows what they are doing
Listen guy's not sure from which company you guys are. But please go back to driving school as their is no way in hell a rwd will come out superior to a s3. Secondly turbo lag is not present if one of you idiots read the user manual on how to use launch control.
Uaau the M235i destroyed this Audi S3
bad driver..... -.-
Well audi has a big racing history bmw......... idk
But if the Audi out after 2 seconds jajaja
Hmm...that non-launch-control-start looks so slow...i guess that can´t be the way audi intended it to work, it must be a pain in normal day driving, for example when you just want to pull fast into a junction...a 1.0 liter fiesta will move faster than this....
too me it doesn´t simply look like turbo lag, because then you would have the same problem while on the move belove certain rpm...seems more like a software problem with the engine management and the s-tronic gearbox (and the high altitude?) - did you guys asked audi about the problem?