Awesome review, and very on point. Had the opportunity to take a 228i M Sport on an autocross hosted by BMW and this car is an absolute blast to drive, is very balanced and surprisingly roomy inside even with 4 adults in all seats. But let's not knock the 4 Gran Coupe, as that is one of the most beautiful BMW's in a very long time and also an amazing drive.
This guy gets it. The conclusion is perfect. People that lament that BMW builds cars they don't want have to understand that selling those cars lets them build these cars.
Even though BMW is throwing crazy models out there like Samsung does with their mobile devices, it is nice to see that with this car they are showing they have not forgetten their roots. Great review and you make a good point in the conclusion.
8 years later.. I picked up 228i with 60 000km for 24k CAD manual RWD its fun but still kinda under powered.. The problem is small turbo life. All the trq is down low... trq kinda dies after 5 rpm. Stock exhaust really mutes the car....... BUT u can hear a little burble sometimes when u lift. I think a Aftermarket DP with a better intercooler and stage 1 tune from Bm3 and this car wakes up. I recommend getting a 2015 or newer.. AVOID 2014 or lower. The n20 motor got a timing chain redesign in the 2015 models.
I loved the 128i i wished they gave it the option to have the naturally aspirated straight 6 engine like the 128i did. It's the most reliable engine there is and needs far less oil changes than a turbocharged engine and it's really where BMW's roots are.
I don't know what country you're from but on the US site for building this car the manual transmission is a $0 option. Meaning it doesn't matter if you buy the automatic or the manual, it's the same price. Which I think is bullshit since every other automaker charges less for the manual. On the plus side your cars resale will probably be higher with the manual though.
It's not that automakers charge less for manuals it's just they charge more for autos. Look at it as bmw telling you that you can get the transmission that makes YOU happy without spending extra. At least the manual is an option unlike some other cars.
***** I know the auto is extra in a lot of cars but I was pointing out that he wouldn't save 2K for options by getting the manual instead of the auto since the car costs the same either way :)
www.kbb.com/what-is/moon-roof/ truthfully a moon roof is more of a "built in" glass panel that has a sliding upholstered cover that can cover the inside of the glass blocking out the sunlight. while sun roofs tend to slide back all the way, and have a panel that covers it from the outside. though honestly they are super similar and originally similar meaning.
***** here is a question to think about , do u buy a used 2011 135i and get all the Dinan , power and handling upgrades which are covered by BMW OEM factory warranty or do u buy a 2 series ??
i am glad they are really focusing on the 2 series BUT and its a BIG but... it just feels like you are literally getting simply less in interior, performance, handling, and exterior styling then the 3 / 4 series. now i am a bit partial as i own a 09 M3 coupe (which by no means is superior interior wise) but the 2 does not feel like the "new" interpretation of the M3... its just lacking that BMW performance, quality, and lineage.
n9athan makes no sense, why do you think ferrari have extended their wheelbase from generation to generation? mclaren as well. cadillac as well. shorter wheel base might make sense in your head as being better because its "smaller" but physics doesn't work like that. stability and traction dictate that.
E92 M3 are the real all time great in my opinion, but it dose feel a bit heavy and track focused. I have drove stock and lightly modded E92 M3 and my girl friend just got the M235i, the real surprise is not how fast, stable and nimble the car is(it better be!), but its comfortable and quite cabin with superb fuel economy. She is getting 24mpg with mostly city driving and heavy traffic! The seat is as good if not better than the stock seat from the E92 and it's much quite with comfort setting, but gets very loud and exciting if set to sport. Remember, this car is normally for younger people's first bmw, it should be a little bit of every good quality bmw has to offer, sporty, fashion, luxury, safety, efficient and technology. I think bmw did a better job than Mercedes and Audi. My GF used to drive a Audi Q5 and she really wants the new X4, but I talk her to get the real bmw and she loved it!
Scott Campbell you are an idiot. we can actually hear the guy's lisp. you on the other hand just see an asian name and start assuming john here has an asian accent. a lisp is a lisp. the guy in the video has one, it is annoying and has nothing to do with race.
Let's just be nice and not state the obvious. How about that? Can all you "Adults" manage that? Jeez.. no shit he has a lisp but really? You gotta point it out. Like he doesn't already know. Great Review btw!!
I love this car. Just hit the gas a little bit as i was turning on to my street and got the back end out. But it was in total control. With its near perfect 50/50 weight distribution, it feels like the car is turning around your body. Its weird, but so cool! I could almost hear her saying, "thats all you got? Spank me harder!" 😄❤
TheMisterTroll02 I haven't sat in the new A3 yet, but I don't believe you. Audis usually have best in class interiors, and I've seen most of them first hand, so I'm not just pulling that out of my ass.
i have a 228i and i love it. the only crap thing that pisses me off is that the leatherette is exactly like the leather...meaning i woulda paid more for the leather but you can't tell the difference. the leather isn't a smooth leather it is very bumpy. the guy said that the only bmws now that come with that start at $90k!!! wtf? bmw needs to get it right. my friend has a fucking toyota with nicer leather upholstery than mine. that is the only thing that pisses me off about it the rest is pure joy.
To actually be helpful, I will answer only one of your questions. This model is not base, he states in the beginning that the car tested is ~$43k, with the base being ~$34k.
I have gone on the BMW website, build and price, have seen a ton of videos, have gone on Google and I couldn't find a clear explanation. the BMW website is absolute crap.
Hamza Al-Farra What's confusing about it? BMWusa.com, build a vehicle, it gives you all the vehicles with a base price right below them, even before you select anything. You then are carried through 5 sections where you can select color, interior, packages, and accessories, with a total price on the right side of the screen throughout the entire process.
VanillaCracker I can go to Honda, or ford and get a fully detailed sheet of the features on the interior and exterior for each of the trims it tells me if the nav is free or if it is extra with the trims it tells me about its milage and so much more. please stop defending their shit website
Navigating/radio/.... Display doesn't look right for such an expensive car, it should look like is part of the dash board ( G37 infinity) it has come along way with electronics.... About time! Yet, am having issues with the heated seats coming on automatically when I don't want them, Radio should be default screen after using nav or ext devices when the car is turn off/on again, updates to the software should be automatic, why do I need a usb device to do it? This is an expensive vehicle while it rides nice still has a lot of catch up to the Japanese instrumentation.
My local dealerships has a few of these, low miles and reasonable price. The thing that bothers me about these is that they look like a 1998 Ford Escort. Why... Why must you make red leather seats BMW?!
At that price i could get a challenger scat pack, mustang gt or a new camaro ss.. really bmw? This car with a different badge on it would be high 20 grand range. all you're buying here is the badge.
The 47K price tag is with all the expensive options added on. You can get an M235 which is a turbo six at 44K stock. Base price of the 228i is equal to challenger R/T or a no options GT. Thing is, you're getting a lot better fuel economy as well as comfort. Not to mention some solid performance in a drivers car. I'm cross shopping the 228 with a no options GT right now so I know what I'm talking about.
Even with the lisp he has always been very articulate...keep it up fuck the haters man
I agree, this is the first video I've watched and i can tell you i will watch a whole lot more no matter how he speaks.
Protip: Turn off the engine start/stop feature, then save your settings to your key, and you will never need to turn it back off again.
i love you
7 years later, your commemt helped me lol
Best review for the 228i I've seen yet.
Awesome review, and very on point. Had the opportunity to take a 228i M Sport on an autocross hosted by BMW and this car is an absolute blast to drive, is very balanced and surprisingly roomy inside even with 4 adults in all seats. But let's not knock the 4 Gran Coupe, as that is one of the most beautiful BMW's in a very long time and also an amazing drive.
This guy gets it. The conclusion is perfect. People that lament that BMW builds cars they don't want have to understand that selling those cars lets them build these cars.
Even though BMW is throwing crazy models out there like Samsung does with their mobile devices, it is nice to see that with this car they are showing they have not forgetten their roots. Great review and you make a good point in the conclusion.
Sami's reviews have come A LONG WAY. Much more entertaining and confident Sami! Great Review!
Oh okay
HE HIT THE HELL OUT THAT BUMP AT 3:41 LMAOOOO!
+Joey Schiavone LOL
His lisp is barely there! RELAX people!
8 years later.. I picked up 228i with 60 000km for 24k CAD manual RWD its fun but still kinda under powered.. The problem is small turbo life. All the trq is down low... trq kinda dies after 5 rpm. Stock exhaust really mutes the car....... BUT u can hear a little burble sometimes when u lift. I think a Aftermarket DP with a better intercooler and stage 1 tune from Bm3 and this car wakes up. I recommend getting a 2015 or newer.. AVOID 2014 or lower. The n20 motor got a timing chain redesign in the 2015 models.
A tip, hold the "traction"-button for 10 seconds... Then you're in Sport-mode without any traction control at all :)
I thought Sport+ was the same exact thing as Sport mode, just with traction control disabled.
VanillaCracker nope, Sport+ still has TC on, just a lower reaction
Oh that's cool. Good to know!
Totally agree with the first 30 seconds comments of this video!
What a looker! I would pick this over the other entry levels if it were up to me
how's this car in the snow/winter?
This car is a dream, favorite ride experience by far!
I loved the 128i i wished they gave it the option to have the naturally aspirated straight 6 engine like the 128i did. It's the most reliable engine there is and needs far less oil changes than a turbocharged engine and it's really where BMW's roots are.
heard the car rub in that bump lol
Great review! Keep it up man!
great review. I would also go for the 6-speed manual and spend the 2k extra that the automatic gearbox costs in options
I don't know what country you're from but on the US site for building this car the manual transmission is a $0 option. Meaning it doesn't matter if you buy the automatic or the manual, it's the same price. Which I think is bullshit since every other automaker charges less for the manual. On the plus side your cars resale will probably be higher with the manual though.
It's not that automakers charge less for manuals it's just they charge more for autos. Look at it as bmw telling you that you can get the transmission that makes YOU happy without spending extra. At least the manual is an option unlike some other cars.
+Khris Bradford Depends on the country, in europe normally automatic is like 2k extra, in the US has same price as previous comment says
***** I know the auto is extra in a lot of cars but I was pointing out that he wouldn't save 2K for options by getting the manual instead of the auto since the car costs the same either way :)
+Khris Bradford In the US, but not in europe! the auto is like +2k in all bmws and most other brands
The F20/21 1 series and 2 series coupe are just brilliant cars from BMW in the recent 5 years
Great review man! Best one I’ve seen yet😌
Why do ALL BMW exhaust tips look soooo small... even on their M series cars !!
Torrey B because they are not designed by gays
Has he got a mad lisp or is the audio fucked?
What is the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof? Can you only use one at night?
Google.com
www.kbb.com/what-is/moon-roof/
truthfully a moon roof is more of a "built in" glass panel that has a sliding upholstered cover that can cover the inside of the glass blocking out the sunlight.
while sun roofs tend to slide back all the way, and have a panel that covers it from the outside.
though honestly they are super similar and originally similar meaning.
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Great details. Thanks for the awesome review. I'll buy this car........when I have money of course
does this 2015 228i have better handling then a 2011-2013 135i ???
*****
here is a question to think about , do u buy a used 2011 135i and get all the Dinan , power and handling upgrades which are covered by BMW OEM factory warranty or do u buy a 2 series ??
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Sandeep Singh Gahir sorry , what are u talking about ??
Yooooo at 3:24, is that Cliche Corner? I swear its the same place but filmed from different angles
This was a great review man! Screw the haters!
The lisp doesn't bother me, but the body language does when it shows him full body or waist up. It's better when we get into the car.
His lisp gets to me...
why would you want bigger exhaust?
Wow, this car is 18,000 now
$13k now
i am glad they are really focusing on the 2 series BUT and its a BIG but... it just feels like you are literally getting simply less in interior, performance, handling, and exterior styling then the 3 / 4 series. now i am a bit partial as i own a 09 M3 coupe (which by no means is superior interior wise) but the 2 does not feel like the "new" interpretation of the M3... its just lacking that BMW performance, quality, and lineage.
You also get less weight and a shorter wheelbase which = more nimble.
n9athan shorter wheelbase does not = more nimble. longer wheelbase = better handling, stability, and traction.
justin bouche It does in this case, arguing otherwise is just ignoring physics.
n9athan makes no sense, why do you think ferrari have extended their wheelbase from generation to generation? mclaren as well. cadillac as well. shorter wheel base might make sense in your head as being better because its "smaller" but physics doesn't work like that. stability and traction dictate that.
E92 M3 are the real all time great in my opinion, but it dose feel a bit heavy and track focused. I have drove stock and lightly modded E92 M3 and my girl friend just got the M235i, the real surprise is not how fast, stable and nimble the car is(it better be!), but its comfortable and quite cabin with superb fuel economy. She is getting 24mpg with mostly city driving and heavy traffic! The seat is as good if not better than the stock seat from the E92 and it's much quite with comfort setting, but gets very loud and exciting if set to sport. Remember, this car is normally for younger people's first bmw, it should be a little bit of every good quality bmw has to offer, sporty, fashion, luxury, safety, efficient and technology. I think bmw did a better job than Mercedes and Audi. My GF used to drive a Audi Q5 and she really wants the new X4, but I talk her to get the real bmw and she loved it!
The lisp is too distracting.
Scott Campbell I am American.
i agree his lisp is really awful.
Scott Campbell you are an idiot. we can actually hear the guy's lisp. you on the other hand just see an asian name and start assuming john here has an asian accent. a lisp is a lisp. the guy in the video has one, it is annoying and has nothing to do with race.
Your small eyes are distracting
Let's just be nice and not state the obvious. How about that? Can all you "Adults" manage that? Jeez.. no shit he has a lisp but really? You gotta point it out. Like he doesn't already know. Great Review btw!!
Dat Listhp
Thats all I could focus on!!! lol
Pinkpolo85 *focuth
Yes, THIS was the subject of the video!
TheCruizer *Thith
Good review bro
Every time it gets turned on I have to turn it off? Don't wanna brag but that's my specialty :)
I love this car. Just hit the gas a little bit as i was turning on to my street and got the back end out. But it was in total control. With its near perfect 50/50 weight distribution, it feels like the car is turning around your body. Its weird, but so cool! I could almost hear her saying, "thats all you got? Spank me harder!" 😄❤
Love this car..... I just think the A3 is a better luxury car but this is obviously the better performance car.
The CLA is 3rd in this class to me.
Its luxury the a3 has the worst interior in the competition
TheMisterTroll02 I haven't sat in the new A3 yet, but I don't believe you. Audis usually have best in class interiors, and I've seen most of them first hand, so I'm not just pulling that out of my ass.
The CLA has the worst interior.
Garzanberg who says, the a3's interior is crap I've been in one at the auto show. Nothing like an a4 or a5.
Love my '14 with 6sp manual.
E36* not E33 which doesn't exists mate :D great review
Milos Zivanov im pretty sure he never said e33... maybe you misheard him say e30 three series.
Milos Zivanov He said E30 3 Series
its your dads car, right?
There's my car...but mines black.
Sport line comes with wing mirrors
Man looks like young Doug demuro
i have a 228i and i love it. the only crap thing that pisses me off is that the leatherette is exactly like the leather...meaning i woulda paid more for the leather but you can't tell the difference. the leather isn't a smooth leather it is very bumpy. the guy said that the only bmws now that come with that start at $90k!!! wtf? bmw needs to get it right. my friend has a fucking toyota with nicer leather upholstery than mine. that is the only thing that pisses me off about it the rest is pure joy.
Mines white leather and i wish i could get the red its sooo much nicer imo
I own the same car just a 2016 it got twin turbo it is fast
any reveal gran coupe ?
okami hirazawa too small for a GC version
Song name in the beginning?
sold!
i thought the interior was poor quality
can someone please reply to me? ... is this the base model and if not what features does the base model come with? and how much is it? thanks
Use the internet. You're on it.
To actually be helpful, I will answer only one of your questions. This model is not base, he states in the beginning that the car tested is ~$43k, with the base being ~$34k.
I have gone on the BMW website, build and price, have seen a ton of videos, have gone on Google and I couldn't find a clear explanation. the BMW website is absolute crap.
Hamza Al-Farra What's confusing about it? BMWusa.com, build a vehicle, it gives you all the vehicles with a base price right below them, even before you select anything. You then are carried through 5 sections where you can select color, interior, packages, and accessories, with a total price on the right side of the screen throughout the entire process.
VanillaCracker I can go to Honda, or ford and get a fully detailed sheet of the features on the interior and exterior for each of the trims it tells me if the nav is free or if it is extra with the trims it tells me about its milage and so much more. please stop defending their shit website
Z lisp izz quazy zou!!!
Navigating/radio/.... Display doesn't look right for such an expensive car, it should look like is part of the dash board ( G37 infinity) it has come along way with electronics.... About time! Yet, am having issues with the heated seats coming on automatically when I don't want them, Radio should be default screen after using nav or ext devices when the car is turn off/on again, updates to the software should be automatic, why do I need a usb device to do it? This is an expensive vehicle while it rides nice still has a lot of catch up to the Japanese instrumentation.
B to the M to the W...
Merci pour votre confiance.
Boudissa Messaouda speak English peasant
A No nonsense car would not have a heated steering wheel, auto memory seats and a navigation system.
Lol his lisp hahaha
Beautiful BMW!
Is that cliche corner?
You wont feel claustrophobic if you are in the front seats
My local dealerships has a few of these, low miles and reasonable price. The thing that bothers me about these is that they look like a 1998 Ford Escort. Why... Why must you make red leather seats BMW?!
Thankth that was a great review the 2- theries is amazing
Rip rims @ 3:41
$47k for a 4 cylinder engine? who buys this shit?
At that price i could get a challenger scat pack, mustang gt or a new camaro ss.. really bmw? This car with a different badge on it would be high 20 grand range. all you're buying here is the badge.
The 47K price tag is with all the expensive options added on. You can get an M235 which is a turbo six at 44K stock. Base price of the 228i is equal to challenger R/T or a no options GT. Thing is, you're getting a lot better fuel economy as well as comfort. Not to mention some solid performance in a drivers car. I'm cross shopping the 228 with a no options GT right now so I know what I'm talking about.
3:42 scrape, lol.
wtf is with this guy's hair?
It ith a great car!
I would take a used Q60s over this.
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mike tython approvth
I’m weak
Aww man😂😂
Was you even born when the 2002 was out or the E30?
you speak funny 😬
Daniel Navarro 🦆🦆🦆
If you keep adding these long, loud, and annoying music, I'm definitely unsubscribing!!
Daffy Duck no
Thith ith awethome
OMG we need European hosts! Please!
Terrible host
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40k for the base car....
No, 32K for the base car
God I hate BMWs..and their drivers
a3 quattro smashes this car......
It is ugly car!
Exthautht thip