I think what really stings about Mindy's Haunter is the fact that you can't get a Gengar without trading. A lot of people grew up playing pokemon without being able to trade, so the false hope from Mindy stings just a bit harder.
1,000 % agree. I grew up being the only person I knew that played Pokemon, so I didn't have anybody to do trades with. This trade stings because of that reason.
Actually you can under the right circumstances. If you have the original ds or the light you can put a gen 3 cartridge in the bottom slot and Gengar has a low encounter rate in the old château. I still hate Mindy though
I don't understand. Why didn't you just use Wi-Fi to get a Gengar from trading over the internet? I remember as someone who was 15 when those games out that many people didn't have wifi back then and it was also slow as a crippled Shuckle, but you still could have gone to a library or a coffee shop for it.
I think what makes her truly evil is that there were a lot of people, mostly kids, that didn't have anyone to trade with and no second DS with a second Gen 4 game. I was never able to play with trade evos until Gen 5, then I was also able to trade in Gen 4 since my sisters had each a DS and games as well. But since I was never able to do it before, I hated trade evos a lot, many other players felt the same. Then they pull this off and just an obvious middlefinger towards such people. I think this is why people hate her so much. Also there was a trade in Yellow that gave you a Machamp, which evolved through this trade. So they are willing to give us players wo never had the chance to trade a trade evo. So she is more of a middlefinger if you know they did it correctly before
I disagree with saying the Magikarp NPCs are more evil. 500 Pokedollars ultimately isn't that much and this _is_ a fair bit before you get the Old Rod anyway. The Hiker traps you, but he's been trapped as well; this could simply be chalked up to desperation rather than malice. And in the Gyarados trade, you already know exactly what you're going to get, and you already had the Gyarados to spare. Mindy builds up your expectations and crushes them, mocking you for it. A lot of people -- myself included -- simply didn't have friends to trade with to get those trade-evolutions. Gengar, Machamp, Scizor, Dusknoir, Rhyperior, etc. were all little more than unobtainable myths to me. Mindy is the only one of these NPCs to _actively_ show malice and inflict harm to the real-life player themselves
Mindy is definitely the worst. $500 is nothing compared to possibly having trained a Medicham and getting it special moves only to trade it thinking that this is your only way to get a Gengar
Which is why you should never trade a Pokémon you've trained and just catch a second one when you find a trade. In this case you can just go outside Snowpoint City and catch any random Medicham, it's relatively easy to do
@@alephnull4044 It's easily found in the grass in Acuity Lakefront, which you can't avoid walking through on your way to Snowpoint. Odds are fairly good you'll have run into one.
@@alephnull4044maybe they should have checked the dex to see if they could catch another, then? If you can’t do that much, you shouldn’t really be playing a game that you can’t read
I'm so happy that my brother also played Pokemon and all I had to do was say, "Hey bro, can you trade evolve this Haunter with me?" Had I not had that option, my childhood might have been a little more frustrating.
I basically never traded with NPCs in the games as a kid so I avoided this 'trap' myself, but it was quite the thing to learn about on the internet. I think what makes people hate her so much isn't just the disappointment that comes from her bamboozling you, but that she seems to 'gloat' over it.
@@mazharsiddiqi7288 For collectors, they're necessary to fill out the dex in the first gen at least. There's also a trade for a Machop right before Whitney that can be handy. Otherwise, yeah, I can't think of many trades I'd see people taking for battle purposes. XD
I always considered Farfetch'd the first "unfair trade" trap, but I barely see anyone talking about it. In Red and Blue you can trade a Spearow for a Farfetch'd in Vermillion City (and actually, there's no other way for you to get a Farfetch'd up until Yellow). Now the thing is, Farfetch'd is objectively better than Spearow in most aspects. But here's the catch, it's objectively worse than Fearow, and by this point of the game, your party should be around level 20, which is when your Spearow would evolve. This alone wouldn't be too bad, you can think of GameFreak not thinking too much about the ramifications of this trade, just hiding a random hard-to-obtain pokemon behind an NPC. But here's the thing: Farfetch'd's name (and design) comes from a expression in Japanese that can be translated literally as "a duck comes bearing green onions" that roughly means "here comes a sucker ready to be departed with their money". And I think that's pretty much a smoking gun: it had to be intentional. So, I wholeheartedly believe that Farfetch'd was always meant to be a joke Pokémon, and that the point all along was that you traded the possibility of a Fearow for something worse that never evolves. And then I think later on they backpedalled giving it stuff like the stick equipped item and then a Galarian form and an evolution just because people ended up taking a liking to it anyway.
Honestly, it's not even a bad trade. It's the only way to get Farfetch'd's dex entry, and Spearow are a dime a dozen. Might be sucky if you do it in the earlygame, but even then, what you're temporarily missing out on is just a Fearow.
@LegengaryOak That's technically true, but it also serves no other purpose for the player other than filling up the Pokedex long term. And it's still a worse Pokemon overall than the Fearow you're giving up the chance to have by doing so, which still makes it an inconvenience at best, especially for players who don't want to take the time to go back later to get another Spearow/Fearow later on
@@matthewkuscienko4616 I mean, you can just go out to like Route 11 and catch another Spearow for the trade. Not unlike how you can just go and catch a Medicham just outside Snowpoint, for that matter.
The salesman is a good con artist when you factor that most people in the world aren’t dedicated League Trainers taking on the Gyms and probably don’t have the time, energy, or want to evolve the Karp.
*Fun fact:* from what I've heard, NO trade evolution Pokemon in Gen 4 can evolve through in-game trades due to a glitch. My gues is that they realised this while making Mindy and instead of fixing it, they gave Gaspar an Everstone and rewrote Mindy's dialogue to match. I would love someone to verify this however, as I can't actually find any info on this besides TH-cam comments and I'd prefer not to spread misinformation. Still, if I _am_ correct, then this is quite an amusing piece of trivia. :)
Honestly they probably could have given her a rapidash or magmar instead, since they don’t evolve by trade and it’s good against the next gym. The latter would be a lot better, even though it wasn’t in the diamond and pearl dex I believe, as it could teach the player about how some pokemon evolve with items and Mindy didn’t have that item.
It's because I'm aware of what the original commentor mentioned here is why I personally think that people overblow how bad Mindy is: it's not ideal, but it wouldn't have evolved anyways, everstone or not. They clearly knew players would be upset by this, and intentionally wrote her dialog to troll the player. That said, I still think the Gyrados for Magikarp trade is far worse, ad there's no real benefit to it, especially given how much effort you have to put in to unlock the chance to do that trade
@PokemonWoop through the remakes didn't need to copy the original game fully there, they could of made a story arc for her in the remakes with her talking about how she has changed and wants people to have Gengar nowadays
Awesome video Hope do more bad in-game trade videos Maybe even good ones similar to the Magikarp salesman video who is actually a big help in early Kanto with limited Water encounters I'd like to shout out the girl who trades you Mr. Nido in FRLG since boosted EXP Nidoking ate through all of Kanto during a Leaf Green playthrough
Maybe the intention also was that the Haunter doesn't evolve because its Mindy's Haunter..and you should take care of it as it is perfect as it is not wanting to evolve or anything we dont know the full story or reason behind the Haunter from Mindy maybe we were supposed to take care perfectly the way Haunter is ..just being Haunter..
I feel like the trade NPC who wants a Bellossom in Hoenn is worse than Mindy. you can catch Medicham outside of Snowpoint pretty easily so it's not like you're giving up something super rare or hard to obtain.
I remember one time in the comment section, i found a whiteknight of this npc I'll try to quote as close as possible "No, she specifically said she would trade you a haunter, not a gengar, you're the only one responsible for your own dissapointment" That's crazy
What are the odds? I just looked at your channel to see what new stuff you posted since I last listened and found out this came out only a few minutes ago! Since I'm early, it's time to ask what I always ask when I'm early: How was your day?
I remember not being able to catch Meditite until relatively late in the Gen 3 games, and by then I already had Blaziken and Gardevoir so I didn’t need Medicham, so you can imagine my excitement when I was able to find Meditite earlier in Gen 4 and eventually Medicham fit perfectly into my team. Then the opportunity came to trade it away for Haunter, which evolves into Gengar upon trading, so I thought. Gengar is superior to every Ghost type Pokémon up until Gen 4 (except the legendary Giratina and maybe the hard to get Spiritomb), so I was willing to part ways with my Medicham to obtain Gengar. Needless to say, I hate Mindy.
Damn. Even when I got her Haunter when the game first came out I just chuckled at the joke. Something that seemed too good to be true turned out to be as such. You have villains like Cyrus, Ghetsis and Lysandre who are genuinely evil but the funny NPC who didn't give you a Gengar gets this much ire.
Yes, because Mindy is more evil than Ghetsis or Cyrus. A girl who plays a practical joke on the player is worse than somebody who wanted to conquer an entire region, and somebody who wanted to remake the entire universe.
it's about which npc hurts the player the most on a personal level. Sure, Cyrus wants to end the world or whatever, but you don't have anything to do with it at all
I will disagree with your conclusion that Mindy teaches us a valuable lesson about not taking shortcuts. As stated in the comments section, it was tough for a good amount of players to find people to trade with. You still have to put in the effort of raising up a Meditite into a Medicham as well. If anything, the lesson should be that not everyone you meet has good intentions.
when i first was playing diamon and pearl the year it came out I was escited to get a gengar, or even a haunter for that matter because my first game was emerald and i couldnt get it there. I got a medicahm and went straight to Mindy to change it. It was strange because i thought it would evolve right away but either way i started leveling haunter up. I saw the item, went to talk to her, and i realised the waste of time that i did .
I've been saying for years now, Mindy's trade is not a bad deal, when you look past the obvious trolling aspect of it all. Yeah, you go into it expecting a Gengar, but as was stated in the video, Haunter is not a bad Pokémon on its own merits by any means. And Haunter don't appear in the wild at any point up to this time, so if you didn't catch a Gastly and evolve it, but still want to catch 'em all, this does still help get you there. And the Everstone itself is a useful item for breeding, so a free one is always welcome. And then, what she asks for from you isn't even hard to get- there are wild Medicham just outside of town! Trudge out into Acuity Lakefront, Quick Ball the first Medicham you see, go back to Snowpoint, boom, instant Haunter, free Everstone, and all it cost you was a few minutes of your time and like one Quick Ball. Like, don't get me wrong, she's definitely trolling you here a bit, but I think it's safe to say the fanbase as a whole has blown this whole thing way out of proportion.
4:22 What are you talking about? No shelter in sight? There is an Inn at the halfway point. One I will never forget the german name of ever again given it's known as "Hütte Flockentanz". I didn't know this when I made my TH-cam Account, but thanks to a Pokémon Diamant (again the german version) Stream and the fellowing storm of jokes I will never be able to forget again. 6:13 It's also a very... let's say memorable way to obtain an Everstone. The only other character that gives you an Everstone that I can even remember is one of Oak's Aides giving you one in the Pokémon Center right before the Rock Tunnel. And even that is more due to him not being in Blue. 9:39 Mindy isn't Pokémon's most evil NPC though. You forgot what NPC means. "Non Player Character" encompasses Villians.
Shortcuts? Girl I’m playing this game years later. Nobody has a DS anymore 😭 Mindy’s trick only gets worse as the years go by because her trick hits all the more harder when you almost can’t even get gengar in gen 4 nowadays
Listen here. Not everyone has friends to trade with. Not everyone has extra consoles with opposite game versions to trade with themselves. Not everyone has access to wifi (I didnt had access to wifi until Gen 5. Meanwhile, nowadays, not everyone has the Nintendo Online membership. I have the online membership but thats besides the point) So not everyone has access to trade evolutions. One of the most hated trade evolutions due to accessability issues. (Its not easy to evolve it especially if its a shiny since not everyone online can be trusted to trade it back to you.) An NPC promised you to have access to Gengar via trading her Haunter. Only to shatter your expectations in the end. Of course we deep her as the most evil NPC. (In a gameplay standpoint. Not storywise. Because storywise its probably Lysandre. Bro tried to commit genocide. 💀)
If Snowpoint City is considered the second gym town for the protagonist then Unown is the most broken legendary in the game. I don't want to be rude or anything but why you make the protagonist feel like the dumbest pokemon trainer ever made. Even a Bug Catcher has more common sense than that.
Honestly when the games were launched I felt for it of course. But getting a Meditite isn't that difficult in Gen 4. Sure a scam but being softlocked when you trade away your only surf Pokemon in Finneon and got no Pokeballs seems more frightening
@PokemonWoop unlike many other kids and people commenting I also Have the luck having a younger sister. Id always get two versions (First Red/Yellow, then Gold/Crystal and so on) so shed get the other version and we traded and filled the dex as much as possible. But if you always missed out of these, in my opinion unecessary, trade evolutions in the past its more frustrating. But I also understand the mechanic behind it to interact with your siblings and friends by trading
She isn't evil, she is mildly bad at most. These people are just looking for an excuse to hate on women Like these people are acting as if the gts doesn't exist and you can't get a gengar any other way
![[#2024MAMA] G-DRAGON - 무제(Untitled, 2014)+POWER+HOME SWEET HOME+뱅뱅뱅+FANTASTIC BABY | Mnet 241123 방송](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ox29z5Nf1Uk/mqdefault.jpg)
![[#2024MAMA] ROSÉ (로제), Bruno Mars - APT. | Mnet 241122 방송](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dgGqD28J6aQ/mqdefault.jpg)
I think what really stings about Mindy's Haunter is the fact that you can't get a Gengar without trading. A lot of people grew up playing pokemon without being able to trade, so the false hope from Mindy stings just a bit harder.
1,000 % agree. I grew up being the only person I knew that played Pokemon, so I didn't have anybody to do trades with. This trade stings because of that reason.
There is wild Gengar in DPPlat Old Chateu I believe but need Pokémon RSE in the GBA slot of the DS
Or something like that
Actually you can under the right circumstances. If you have the original ds or the light you can put a gen 3 cartridge in the bottom slot and Gengar has a low encounter rate in the old château.
I still hate Mindy though
Me, im one of those victimized by her cruelty. Gen 4 was my first series and I didn't have anyone else to trade with, no gengar for me for a long time
I don't understand. Why didn't you just use Wi-Fi to get a Gengar from trading over the internet? I remember as someone who was 15 when those games out that many people didn't have wifi back then and it was also slow as a crippled Shuckle, but you still could have gone to a library or a coffee shop for it.
I think what makes her truly evil is that there were a lot of people, mostly kids, that didn't have anyone to trade with and no second DS with a second Gen 4 game.
I was never able to play with trade evos until Gen 5, then I was also able to trade in Gen 4 since my sisters had each a DS and games as well.
But since I was never able to do it before, I hated trade evos a lot, many other players felt the same.
Then they pull this off and just an obvious middlefinger towards such people.
I think this is why people hate her so much.
Also there was a trade in Yellow that gave you a Machamp, which evolved through this trade.
So they are willing to give us players wo never had the chance to trade a trade evo.
So she is more of a middlefinger if you know they did it correctly before
.
That’s cool and all, but Mindy’s prank is objectively very funny
When there's an entire subreddit dedicated to hating you specifically you're a menace
Grandpa joe 😡
Even worse if you're a real person.
I disagree with saying the Magikarp NPCs are more evil. 500 Pokedollars ultimately isn't that much and this _is_ a fair bit before you get the Old Rod anyway. The Hiker traps you, but he's been trapped as well; this could simply be chalked up to desperation rather than malice. And in the Gyarados trade, you already know exactly what you're going to get, and you already had the Gyarados to spare. Mindy builds up your expectations and crushes them, mocking you for it. A lot of people -- myself included -- simply didn't have friends to trade with to get those trade-evolutions. Gengar, Machamp, Scizor, Dusknoir, Rhyperior, etc. were all little more than unobtainable myths to me. Mindy is the only one of these NPCs to _actively_ show malice and inflict harm to the real-life player themselves
Mindy is definitely the worst. $500 is nothing compared to possibly having trained a Medicham and getting it special moves only to trade it thinking that this is your only way to get a Gengar
Which is why you should never trade a Pokémon you've trained and just catch a second one when you find a trade. In this case you can just go outside Snowpoint City and catch any random Medicham, it's relatively easy to do
@@edgargaebolg9307 Except people playing the game for the first time will probably not know you can catch a Medicham soon after
@@alephnull4044 It's easily found in the grass in Acuity Lakefront, which you can't avoid walking through on your way to Snowpoint. Odds are fairly good you'll have run into one.
@@alephnull4044maybe they should have checked the dex to see if they could catch another, then? If you can’t do that much, you shouldn’t really be playing a game that you can’t read
I'm so happy that my brother also played Pokemon and all I had to do was say, "Hey bro, can you trade evolve this Haunter with me?"
Had I not had that option, my childhood might have been a little more frustrating.
This is exactly why me and my fiancée want to have two kids lol
This might be the trolliest thing GF has ever done.
They should do more trades like this
I basically never traded with NPCs in the games as a kid so I avoided this 'trap' myself, but it was quite the thing to learn about on the internet. I think what makes people hate her so much isn't just the disappointment that comes from her bamboozling you, but that she seems to 'gloat' over it.
Yeah
Only good trade is Mr. Nido male Nidoran trade in FRLG
Boosted Exp Nidoking is a beast in the games
@@mazharsiddiqi7288 For collectors, they're necessary to fill out the dex in the first gen at least. There's also a trade for a Machop right before Whitney that can be handy. Otherwise, yeah, I can't think of many trades I'd see people taking for battle purposes. XD
i didnt trade either bc it felt like i was betraying my pokemon
@@godisjihyo3615 That too! It might sound kind of silly, but I certainly got (and still do in some ways) attached to the ones I caught!
Same here, never really traded with the ingame NPCs unless it was a rare Pokemon
I always considered Farfetch'd the first "unfair trade" trap, but I barely see anyone talking about it. In Red and Blue you can trade a Spearow for a Farfetch'd in Vermillion City (and actually, there's no other way for you to get a Farfetch'd up until Yellow). Now the thing is, Farfetch'd is objectively better than Spearow in most aspects. But here's the catch, it's objectively worse than Fearow, and by this point of the game, your party should be around level 20, which is when your Spearow would evolve.
This alone wouldn't be too bad, you can think of GameFreak not thinking too much about the ramifications of this trade, just hiding a random hard-to-obtain pokemon behind an NPC. But here's the thing: Farfetch'd's name (and design) comes from a expression in Japanese that can be translated literally as "a duck comes bearing green onions" that roughly means "here comes a sucker ready to be departed with their money". And I think that's pretty much a smoking gun: it had to be intentional.
So, I wholeheartedly believe that Farfetch'd was always meant to be a joke Pokémon, and that the point all along was that you traded the possibility of a Fearow for something worse that never evolves. And then I think later on they backpedalled giving it stuff like the stick equipped item and then a Galarian form and an evolution just because people ended up taking a liking to it anyway.
Honestly, it's not even a bad trade. It's the only way to get Farfetch'd's dex entry, and Spearow are a dime a dozen. Might be sucky if you do it in the earlygame, but even then, what you're temporarily missing out on is just a Fearow.
@LegengaryOak That's technically true, but it also serves no other purpose for the player other than filling up the Pokedex long term. And it's still a worse Pokemon overall than the Fearow you're giving up the chance to have by doing so, which still makes it an inconvenience at best, especially for players who don't want to take the time to go back later to get another Spearow/Fearow later on
@@matthewkuscienko4616 I mean, you can just go out to like Route 11 and catch another Spearow for the trade. Not unlike how you can just go and catch a Medicham just outside Snowpoint, for that matter.
The salesman is a good con artist when you factor that most people in the world aren’t dedicated League Trainers taking on the Gyms and probably don’t have the time, energy, or want to evolve the Karp.
*Fun fact:* from what I've heard, NO trade evolution Pokemon in Gen 4 can evolve through in-game trades due to a glitch. My gues is that they realised this while making Mindy and instead of fixing it, they gave Gaspar an Everstone and rewrote Mindy's dialogue to match.
I would love someone to verify this however, as I can't actually find any info on this besides TH-cam comments and I'd prefer not to spread misinformation. Still, if I _am_ correct, then this is quite an amusing piece of trivia. :)
Honestly they probably could have given her a rapidash or magmar instead, since they don’t evolve by trade and it’s good against the next gym. The latter would be a lot better, even though it wasn’t in the diamond and pearl dex I believe, as it could teach the player about how some pokemon evolve with items and Mindy didn’t have that item.
Pokemon mythbusters?
@@dew-it8744 I forgot to add the part where it said "they probably thought it'd be funny" ^^"
It's because I'm aware of what the original commentor mentioned here is why I personally think that people overblow how bad Mindy is: it's not ideal, but it wouldn't have evolved anyways, everstone or not. They clearly knew players would be upset by this, and intentionally wrote her dialog to troll the player. That said, I still think the Gyrados for Magikarp trade is far worse, ad there's no real benefit to it, especially given how much effort you have to put in to unlock the chance to do that trade
This vid really brings back what brought me to this channel in the first place - niche, weird shit on the early Pokémon games. Well done man
Glad you enjoyed! :)
My first level 100 Pokémon was a haunter in pearl because I didn’t know you had to trade it to evolve it
Where was lance and his dragonite using hyper beam on people when we needed him most?!
If her Pokemon wasn't holding a Everstone, she probably be remembered instead for Gengar NPC rather then darkness NPC
Supposedly, the everstone was only added because Gen 4 couldn't handle trade evolutions through NPC trades
@PokemonWoop through the remakes didn't need to copy the original game fully there, they could of made a story arc for her in the remakes with her talking about how she has changed and wants people to have Gengar nowadays
She could have at least warned us about the held item.
This feels like a late Halloween vid
Every Woop video is a late Halloween video
Ah yes, the moment early Gen-Zers had their innocence shattered by Nintendo.
2007, a tragic year for many pokefans
Awesome video
Hope do more bad in-game trade videos
Maybe even good ones similar to the Magikarp salesman video who is actually a big help in early Kanto with limited Water encounters
I'd like to shout out the girl who trades you Mr. Nido in FRLG since boosted EXP Nidoking ate through all of Kanto during a Leaf Green playthrough
Maybe the intention also was that the Haunter doesn't evolve because its Mindy's Haunter..and you should take care of it as it is perfect as it is not wanting to evolve or anything we dont know the full story or reason behind the Haunter from Mindy maybe we were supposed to take care perfectly the way Haunter is ..just being Haunter..
I feel like the trade NPC who wants a Bellossom in Hoenn is worse than Mindy. you can catch Medicham outside of Snowpoint pretty easily so it's not like you're giving up something super rare or hard to obtain.
I remember one time in the comment section, i found a whiteknight of this npc
I'll try to quote as close as possible
"No, she specifically said she would trade you a haunter, not a gengar, you're the only one responsible for your own dissapointment"
That's crazy
I mean, I guess it's technically right
I got scammed enough in Runescape as a kid; I didn't need that crap in my Pokemon games too.
Man Woop can tell a story 😂
What are the odds? I just looked at your channel to see what new stuff you posted since I last listened and found out this came out only a few minutes ago! Since I'm early, it's time to ask what I always ask when I'm early:
How was your day?
Nice! You're the first comment
It's been going good. How about you? :)
Did Candice want the Haunter since she has a medicham and we took the opportunity from her? xd
I kinda liked her for being such a troll
I remember not being able to catch Meditite until relatively late in the Gen 3 games, and by then I already had Blaziken and Gardevoir so I didn’t need Medicham, so you can imagine my excitement when I was able to find Meditite earlier in Gen 4 and eventually Medicham fit perfectly into my team. Then the opportunity came to trade it away for Haunter, which evolves into Gengar upon trading, so I thought. Gengar is superior to every Ghost type Pokémon up until Gen 4 (except the legendary Giratina and maybe the hard to get Spiritomb), so I was willing to part ways with my Medicham to obtain Gengar. Needless to say, I hate Mindy.
Damn. Even when I got her Haunter when the game first came out I just chuckled at the joke.
Something that seemed too good to be true turned out to be as such.
You have villains like Cyrus, Ghetsis and Lysandre who are genuinely evil but the funny NPC who didn't give you a Gengar gets this much ire.
2:27 math jumpscare!
I will never not find it hilarious how this channel's whole vibe is "Pokémon Nexpo". (Genuinely, it's pretty fun and memorable)
The kanto npc that sells you a magikarp is clutch, take it to the daycare and wait a bit. Boom gyrados early game
Yeah. He teaches time investment
All my homies hate Mindy
you and 25000 people
New video already? Woop is cooking
Yes, because Mindy is more evil than Ghetsis or Cyrus. A girl who plays a practical joke on the player is worse than somebody who wanted to conquer an entire region, and somebody who wanted to remake the entire universe.
It's because it's personal. :)
it's about which npc hurts the player the most on a personal level. Sure, Cyrus wants to end the world or whatever, but you don't have anything to do with it at all
True, although trolling millions of real life kids might be worse
Isn’t there another in game trade that does that though?
These people are just trolls, not actually evil.
Now Cyrus, he is evil.
cyrus is immature. Mindy is evil. One doesnt understand how little he understands. and the other is intentionally screwing you over.
I will disagree with your conclusion that Mindy teaches us a valuable lesson about not taking shortcuts. As stated in the comments section, it was tough for a good amount of players to find people to trade with. You still have to put in the effort of raising up a Meditite into a Medicham as well. If anything, the lesson should be that not everyone you meet has good intentions.
I think Mindy is a tie for worst NPC. The other being the Violet City Onix kid.
What makes that one bad? You can catch bellsprout right outside the city, and the gym is flying type where grass would have a disadvantage anyway.
I mean, that Onix is super helpful for the early game
Wake up it's Woop
🦆🦆
The moment he said Mindy my fists clinched
Difference between haunter and gengar: +15 spAtk, +10 speed, bulk that doesn't really matter. And haunter has the better design.
Plus in Sinnoh completing the regional dex doesn't even require catching every mon so it's not like the extra entry would matter.
Euh'll narrate these 'Pokémon' videos like they're true crime cases. Despision.
I remember doing this trade and just got so confused
when i first was playing diamon and pearl the year it came out I was escited to get a gengar, or even a haunter for that matter because my first game was emerald and i couldnt get it there. I got a medicahm and went straight to Mindy to change it. It was strange because i thought it would evolve right away but either way i started leveling haunter up. I saw the item, went to talk to her, and i realised the waste of time that i did
.
I've been saying for years now, Mindy's trade is not a bad deal, when you look past the obvious trolling aspect of it all. Yeah, you go into it expecting a Gengar, but as was stated in the video, Haunter is not a bad Pokémon on its own merits by any means. And Haunter don't appear in the wild at any point up to this time, so if you didn't catch a Gastly and evolve it, but still want to catch 'em all, this does still help get you there. And the Everstone itself is a useful item for breeding, so a free one is always welcome. And then, what she asks for from you isn't even hard to get- there are wild Medicham just outside of town! Trudge out into Acuity Lakefront, Quick Ball the first Medicham you see, go back to Snowpoint, boom, instant Haunter, free Everstone, and all it cost you was a few minutes of your time and like one Quick Ball. Like, don't get me wrong, she's definitely trolling you here a bit, but I think it's safe to say the fanbase as a whole has blown this whole thing way out of proportion.
4:22 What are you talking about?
No shelter in sight? There is an Inn at the halfway point.
One I will never forget the german name of ever again given it's known as "Hütte Flockentanz".
I didn't know this when I made my TH-cam Account, but thanks to a Pokémon Diamant (again the german version) Stream and the fellowing storm of jokes I will never be able to forget again.
6:13 It's also a very... let's say memorable way to obtain an Everstone.
The only other character that gives you an Everstone that I can even remember is one of Oak's Aides giving you one in the Pokémon Center right before the Rock Tunnel. And even that is more due to him not being in Blue.
9:39 Mindy isn't Pokémon's most evil NPC though. You forgot what NPC means. "Non Player Character" encompasses Villians.
Oh wow 25,000 DOLLS
The dolls?
@PokemonWoop oh yes. All the DOLLS
Shortcuts? Girl I’m playing this game years later. Nobody has a DS anymore 😭 Mindy’s trick only gets worse as the years go by because her trick hits all the more harder when you almost can’t even get gengar in gen 4 nowadays
Listen here. Not everyone has friends to trade with.
Not everyone has extra consoles with opposite game versions to trade with themselves.
Not everyone has access to wifi (I didnt had access to wifi until Gen 5. Meanwhile, nowadays, not everyone has the Nintendo Online membership. I have the online membership but thats besides the point)
So not everyone has access to trade evolutions. One of the most hated trade evolutions due to accessability issues. (Its not easy to evolve it especially if its a shiny since not everyone online can be trusted to trade it back to you.)
An NPC promised you to have access to Gengar via trading her Haunter. Only to shatter your expectations in the end.
Of course we deep her as the most evil NPC. (In a gameplay standpoint. Not storywise. Because storywise its probably Lysandre. Bro tried to commit genocide. 💀)
Is this really up for debate?
Thank goodness I had a brother to trade with for the trade evos
Having someone else to trade with you back then was so OP
Yes
Sure Mindy is bad but have you considered that npc in the battle tower who lands a horn drill through a quick claw
N hes the most evil x
Nooo
Hot take I guess but I love Mindy and NPCs like her. It's literally just a harmless joke and I think it's hilarious
Bruh why are you talking about pokemon like ur talkinh about some creepypasta 😭 (still love u tho?)
That's Woop for ya'.
I think this story warrants the creepy narration
If Snowpoint City is considered the second gym town for the protagonist then Unown is the most broken legendary in the game.
I don't want to be rude or anything but why you make the protagonist feel like the dumbest pokemon trainer ever made. Even a Bug Catcher has more common sense than that.
I'm not sure what you're referring to
The video, duh.
Now i realize, looking at the subtitles, that you said 7th instead of 2nd. Not my fault my your voice wasn't clear enough.
Mindy is a girlboss who makes children who have bad taste in Pokemon cry. Gengar is overrated af and Mindy exploits this, it's honestly genius.
bruh let people like overrated stuff
(still gives a like 'coz you're right)
isn't it like Ghetsis or Cyrus or something
Probably
Honestly when the games were launched I felt for it of course. But getting a Meditite isn't that difficult in Gen 4. Sure a scam but being softlocked when you trade away your only surf Pokemon in Finneon and got no Pokeballs seems more frightening
Yeah, medicham is very easy to get in these games. Plus, that experience boosted Haunter can still be really useful
@PokemonWoop unlike many other kids and people commenting I also Have the luck having a younger sister. Id always get two versions (First Red/Yellow, then Gold/Crystal and so on) so shed get the other version and we traded and filled the dex as much as possible. But if you always missed out of these, in my opinion unecessary, trade evolutions in the past its more frustrating. But I also understand the mechanic behind it to interact with your siblings and friends by trading
out of content this channel immediately went to shit huh
You can make a video essay about anything these days huh
you can watch a video essay about anything these days huh
She isn't evil, she is mildly bad at most. These people are just looking for an excuse to hate on women
Like these people are acting as if the gts doesn't exist and you can't get a gengar any other way
I'm pretty sure the hate would be the same if Mindy was named Kevin or something and looked like a hiker
She just does a little trolling