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- When trying to find the moment where Pokemon really began to change into what it is now, they’d all probably say Generation 4. It introduced things such as the physical special split, much better movepools, and the first 3D graphics in the main series games. But despite all of these improvements, some of the new Pokemon still suffer the same problems that older ones did, making them difficult to use in a Gen 4 playthrough. Let’s take a look at Gen 4’s most forgotten and underwhelming Pokemon…
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It’s funny how you called Carnivine the seviper of Sinnoh since in the anime Jessie had a seviper and James had a Carnivine (which is where I always remember Carnivine from)
Fun fact, James’ carnivine is the only one of its kind to appear in the anime
Same for his cacnea!
@@garg4531eh.. not really for cacnea, there has been some minor appearances in journeys and horizons
James is secretly a grass type master, all his grass types LOVE him, maybe a bit too much lol
@@dominicmoisant8393 All of them except for Amoonguss but yeah!
@@matteogabusi8950 Yeah I read that after the comment
But they’re only minor appearances in the latest series, so still for the vast majority of the anime we haven’t seen any others
I feel like making Kricketune's BST go to 440 would be even more thematically fitting, since tuners are typically set to A = 440 Hertz as a frequency.
that's adorable! i totally agree!
Actually, the standard is anything between 440-444, while some claim 432 to be better... so....
@@CarlosSaulRodriguezA"actually" ☝️🤓
@@CarlosSaulRodriguezA440 is the standard
I'd personally give Kricketune a lean towards SpAtk and more sound based moves, and give it a unique ability called "Conductor", which gives it an immunity to sound moves like soundproof, but it also strengthens itself's and an ally's sound moves in Doubles. The sound immunity would let it pull some nasty shenanigans like immunity to perish song or buffing an ally's Boomburst while remaining unharmed by it. Give it helping hand too for even more damage boosting!
We could also just make a more generic version of punk rock, and give it a bit wider distribution. Give it to pokemon like Exploud. That would be a way to fix a number of meh sound based pokemon, and give them interesting interactions with each other.
Yeah, I'm grateful to the breadcrumbs they sent Cricketune's way. It's at least great in story now.
Methinks Conductor could work by making the ally's Sound attack gain priority whenever Kriketune is also preparing a Sound move.
Maybe call the ability tuning fork
I’d call the ability “resonance”
3:31 nah man, if luxray got no guard I would just teach it thunder 💀
To do a grand total of like 50% to a Milotic
@@gofglida415530% para chance though
That 95 special attack ain't bad at all. But I actually don't like no guard as an ability becasue it's moves are generally accurate. It would only really boost the accuracy of Thunder. Which is good. But unnecessary
@@deeznoots6241Marvel Scale
@@ronswanson7371 marvel scale only increases Milotics physical defense, which wouldn’t affect thunder since its a special move.
With Carnivine, I remember that several people thought that it would get access to Snap Trap the next time it made an appearance because the move would fit Carnivine better than G.Stunfisk, who only gets STAB when Grassy Terrain is in effect.
And then came GF not including Carnivine in SwSh or SV
Yeah, definitely a missed opportunity there
Galarian Stunfisk in general is just such a mess. Its impressive that you can improve the typing, yet add a gimmick that they didn't even feel like supporting outside of a single move
They should honestly buff snap traps bp to like 65 or something might as well since it’s never being used and give it to carnivine too
Two notes on luxray: first, no guard is more of a detriment than a buff. Sure, the elemental fangs are 95% accurate, but that pales in comparison to the focus blasts, blizzards, fire blasts, and hypnoses that you’re giving free rein to destroy your beloved feline. Second, I really do feel like a phenomenal moveset addition for luxray would be flame charge. Luxray isn’t slow persay, but it’s slow for an electric type and the fire coverage could be useful for the wormadams and steel types of sinnoh
Yeah, I realized too late that Compound Eyes would've by far been the better ability to give it, both gameplay wise and design wise
@@PokemonWoop bro luxray has simple eyes how does Compound Eyes make sense design wise. I get the "Seeing through walls" thing could justify but he just doesnt have compound eyes like insects do
@@beanslinger2 it could be a compound eyes reskin like vital spirit vs insomnia or huge power and pure power.
@@smargiohopefully not just a mere reskin. Boosting accuracy and also ignoring evasiveness would be nice. Heck maybe ignore barriers as well when using Electric attacks.
It gets Trail Blaze iirc
I personally think they should let Lumineon carry a sledgehammer to make it more threatening
Lumineon feels like a middle evo to me. I wonder if they had artists block and couldn't finish the Evo line
That could be the case (which would be very unfortunate). Although I still think the real reason is just that they wanted a new Goldeen/Seaking
Probably a combination of both: maybe they wanted to do three stages, then realized they were ending up with a repeat of Goldeen, went along with it and left the line at two stages.
Funny I never forgot Lumineon, probably because I really love its cry
That's fair. Personally, I just really like its design
I was once part of a small Pokémon group on a chat app.
The bubble effect was SO real. Everyone there ran Luxray and assumed it was good.
Winning battles in that group was easy and boring since they all ran identical crap…
Generic sinnoh team go brr
"Using Kricketune as a trump card" is something I NEVER thought I would hear.
Custom ability for Luxray: X-Ray Vision
Boosts accuracy and ignores opponent's evasion stat. Ignores screens and protection when using Electric attacks.
I like that a lot
Genius
Perhaps it’s a bit strong. A good drawback would be that Luxray ALSO can’t use or have any evasion moves on itself or use any accuracy-lowering moves on another Pokémon.
I've also always really liked Lumineon since it was introduced, but it's *LONG* overdue for some serious buffs. I've thought about it gaining Fairy as well, and have always imagined it as geting a serious Sp. Attack buff (I'd personally make it 96) to sort of make it a faster, (when under Swift Swim) Special-oriented counterpart to Azumarill.
the 3 elemental fangs are egg moves for Luxray
Then there is no reason why they cannot be level up moves to get them easier.
Hippowdon is only one available during the story in Diamond and Pearl who can pass them over. Cyrus has a Honchkrow with Drill Peck but nobody in the Sinnoh Dex gets it
@@DrCoeloCephalo Yeah man just casualize everything and make the game play itsef and never oppose any kind of resistance
To be fair, the Galar games made this MUCH easier.
@@tabbender1232 Isn't this supposed tio be a kids game for everyone? Why NOT make it easier? That's the usual defense for alot of Pokemon's bad game design compared to better monster collectors where AI is monumentally smarter and skillset customizing is monumentally better like Dragon Quest Monsters among other games.
Lumineon is my favorite water type due to its design as well as its cry
It also has roost in legends arceus so it was fun to use
A Gen 4 pokemon that needs to be “fixed” is purugly. It is SOOOOOO fast and yet it can’t do anything at all with its speed. I would ATLEAST increase its physical attack so make it a fast glass cannon. Since its defences and hp is pretty low!! If not I would MINIMUM buff its HP to make it a fast pokemon that can survive for many rounds due to its big health. However, I think the fast glass cannon concept works better to fix it
This has been brought up before in other instances of someone saying Luxray should be Dark-type:
Luxray has more to do with light than darkness, it was never depicted as malicious or underhanded, being black does not warrant getting Dark, and its only Dark-type moves in its level-up moveset are Bite and Crunch, which are just bites.
Good point. I never thought of it that way
Dark types aren’t inherently evil though, for instance Absol warns of potential disasters, Umbreon is chill. Mewoscarada is essentially just a performer. Also the light associations already fit with the electric typing, I really don’t think adding dark is that crazy.
@@thisnameseemslegit the light connections contradict would-be associations with darkness.
Absol was mistaken for a doom bringer, Umbreon has more to do with literal darkness and the night.
@@thisnameseemslegitstill Absol was hated because people think that he is the One causing the bad things,dark types all have bad traits or a dark lore
I like to think that if Luxray got a 2ndary type, it'd be Psychic instead.
I think carnivine should get an signature ability called "swapped roles" in which instead of being resisted and taking supereffective damage by bugs and flying it resists and does supereffective damage against bugs and flying types, it just makes sense to a plant that preys upon bugs (and even rats on some ocassions) to swap roles with them, also i think that carnivine being this big could easly prey upon smaller birds and bats
Lumineon straight up needs an evolution, I did actually make one and had some similar ideas to you like the 101 speed
Lumiluneon
Type: Water / Fairy
Abilities: Storm Drain / Swift Swim / Dazzling (Hidden)
Stats:
HP: 89
Atk: 49
Def: 86
SpA: 99
SpD: 116
Spe: 101
BST: 540
New Moves:
Starry Sea, Moonblast, Flash Cannon, Hurricane,
Moonlight, Quiver Dance, Hypnosis, Reflect, Light Screen
Notable Lumineon Moves:
Dazzling Gleam, Tailwind
Starry Sea:
Water
Special (Spread, Pulse Move)
90BP 100 Acc
The users body glimmers like stars in the darkness and releases shimmering mystic water that hits opposing Pokémon. This may also confuse the target (10%)
Pokédex
Scarlet:
It floats deep in the sea, appearing as though a galaxy floating in the dark depths. Many Pokémon are led astray by its alluring light as if they’ve fallen under a spell.
Violet :
Having mastered control of its own starry light, it has learned to imitate the power of the moon itself. It uses this to lure prey, and to fight for territory and food with other Pokémon.
Evolves by levelling up while learning moonlight (which Lumineon will get as level up in this hypothetical gen)
PU maybe with a niche in NU
@@SwinubPlush I'd have no idea, never played singles but I assume that's better than Lumineon
For Carnivine: Instead of Arena Trap, it should have a unique ability... Bug Trap! Basically like Magnet Pull, but for Bug types. Preventing them from switching out, INCLUDING with U-turn!
That's actually a genius idea!
Good improvements
For Lumineon line it's pre evo is called Beutifly of the sea moves like Silver Wind and Moon Light would really suit it (Moon Light over Morning Sun because it's dex entry always refer to night and stars)
I really pick bad pokemon to have as favorites, I think in every video you did in this series you had some of my favorite pokemon. This time around its Lumineon, I don't know why. I just like that fish for no reason
Same, I love Lumineon's design, but it's just not that good
Could be worse, you could be me loving spinda, ditto, and Absol.
I remember during my Platinum playthrough all those years ago, I reached the Elite 4 without a Water type Pokémon. Bertha gave me hell, so I just went searching for a fish. Finneon came my way, and eventually carried that godforsaken battle. Though a random Dusclops is what got me through Cynthia hahah
Personally, I never understood why Carnivine had such a high SpAtk and Luxray was so slow… it never made any sense to me. Carnivine would benefit simply from redistributing its SpAtk to every other stat. Drop it by 70 to 20 and add 20 to HP, 15 Defense and SpDf and 20 to Atk and it’ll be a lot better. As for Luxray, just buff its speed, even just by 15-20 and No Guard is a great ability for it to have. I’d also recommend Compound Eyes, Reckless or Guts as well.
Has any non-Bug ever gotten Compound Eyes?
@ I don’t think so. I do love that’s it’s basically a signature bug ability but I feel it’d work for Luxray well, especially since I love running Ice Fang and Snarl on mine’s lol
Even with buffs Lumineon is always gonna face stiff competition for a team slot with all the other excellent water types in Sinnoh. It's not available til you get the Good Rod so there's gonna be competition with all the early mons. Assuming you didn't pick Piplup as a starter there's other Sinnoh waters Floatzel and Gastrodon which are available much earlier and then there's the amazing Gyarados which only requires the Old Rod and got buffed in Gen 4. BDSP makes it much worse with early access to other water types in the underground and Platinum lets you potentially get a Vaporeon right before the Good Rod.
No guard is completely pointless on luxray considering its best moves are no less than 90 percent accurate. Intimidate is totally fine.
I've seen someone suggest this buff on r/Stunfisk, but seeing how Carnivine is based on a plant whose defining characteristic is eating bugs, it should really have an ability that heals it when its hit by a Bug-type move. Basically the same idea as Water Absorb. It just makes so much sense, and it gets rid of one of the Grass-type's weaknesses, as opposed to Levitate which as you said, feels a little pointless since Grass already resists Ground.
I'd prefer it boost ATK like Sap Sipper. IRL Venus flytraps tighten harder the more the caught insect struggle and hit the trigger hairs inside.
Maybe it can have a partner Skill Link/Loaded Dice Pin Missile on it.
Damn a grass type that can heal off u-turn spam is wild
How does Stunfisk have its own subreddit lmao?
@@justspheal489
r/Stunfisk is the competitive Pokemon subreddit. Stunfisk was chosen as the mascot just as a silly little counterpart to Smogon, and their use of Koffing.
Every Thursday they have an event where people can suggest new pokemon, abilities, moves, items, and other things that would be cool to have in the game, and the post I referred to in my original comment was that buff for Carnivine. I think they also made it a Grass/Dark type lol
most if not all pokemon do@@justspheal489
What about that cherry Pokemon? I forgot its name.
Actually has use on a sun team. Atleast they tried
The Pokemon you're speaking of is called Darkrai. It's kinda cool.
Cherrim
your videos are so uncanny like
it feels kinda..creepy? the music,the backgrounds and heck even your voice give me chills
Notification gang!!! Never thought of No Guard on Luxray... I would've gone with Compound Eyes so the accuracy only works one way. Also a revenge killer Choice Scarf Arena Trap Carnivine would be so redeeming for the poor guy!
You know, now that you mention it, Conpound eyes would probably have been more fitting
8:08 bro 97% accurate sleep move on a base 106 speed Mon gets banned lol
Not anymore 😔
@@mavriiick good point lol
So I saw your video on twitter complaining on how you gave Luxray the dark type.
and they were right
I hope this reaches you, but your sound design is absolutely amazing! The ambient music and your low pitch voice combine to create a mysterious ambience that matches that of lost media and horror videos. Thank you for your content! It's super entertaining :)
Thanks a lot for the kind words!! I'm glad you enjoy it
In my first time playing platinum i saw fineon and thought it looked cute, captured it to use as my water type...
And oh boy did it dissapoint me
You are right, i always forgot Lumineon exists. It doesn't help it's a pokèmon that you find near the end of the game and it has a bland design, bland typing and horrible stats. Why does it exist?
Does finneon evolve into lumineon? Or is it a luvdisc-alomamola situation?
@@mrttam Yeah Finneon is the pre-evo of Lumineon if i remember correctly but it's a waste of exp to evolve it because even after you evolve it it's still pathetically weak.
Speaking of Alomomola, i'm still disappointed that GameFreak did not retcon it into being Luvdisc's evolution. So stupid.
@@joshtheryuk real. Such a missed opportunity. Thanks for the info though.
It exists because gamefreak really liked its cry
@@Gojira_uz really?
My nostalgia insists there are no bad Gen 4 pokemon
Don't know if you'll ever see this, but I just started watching these videos and they've given me quite a bit of inspiration for my work on Gen 10 rebalancing! In particular, this actually helped me pull together some missing pieces for Lumineon and the 3 Wormadam forms in particular, so if you ever see this, thanks for that! Your gen 3 video was also a help in reminding me that I completely neglected poor Masquerain and Surskit, and that I'd forgotten movepool updates for Tropius, so thanks for those too! And here I thought I'd be bored tonight. :)
Lumineon is one of my top 3 favorite Pokémon so it always makes me sad hearing people talk down on it all the time, love your ideas for (much needed) buffs for it!
I really love the aesthetic of your videos man! The music and the visual style is really cool!
Maybe Lumineon could get an ability that makes "light/ ray" moves priority? I know it's not a thing, but i think it would be a cool addition to it and make it unique.
Kricketune will always have a special place in my heart. First shiny I ever found on my first play through of Pearl when I was a kid. I didn’t even know what a shiny was before then.
I’d give Kricketune, Lumineon, Carnivine, Wormadam, and Mothim evolutions. As for Luxray, I’m thinking I’d sacrifice some bulk and a lot of Sp. Atk for Attack and Speed, expand its movepool, and give it Frisk as an ability (which kinda makes sense).
Wormadam is my second favorite pokemon and I naively yearn for the day it gets new forms. Water, ice, and rock bagworms would be easy to do, c'mon. It also "bugs" me that so many people don't pronounce its name right. It's Wor-mad-am, like 'Madam'
Edit: from what I can find on games that speak Pokémon names, it is actually Worm-a-dam
That’s how I hear it as
But technically it’s “worm” + “madam”
Hm, I actually haven't heard its name said in the anime. Does it have the emphasis on "madam"?
Heck yeah, was so incredibly happy when I heard it got Quiver Dance, I just wish its different movepools had more overlap. Maybe give it coverage from its different forms through breeding. That'd be incredible. Would totally jive with an entire team of different Wormadam if they ever gave me 3 more. I would die of joy
@@PokemonWoop Frick, I'm actually wrong. I pulled up the Pokedex 3D Pro game and Detective Pikachu 1 vids to double check, and they say Worm-a-dam :/ I swear I remember hearing Wor-mad-am from an official source back around the XY days. Mandela Effect is crazy
In Pokémon Rejuvenation theres a shadow finneon that learns quiver dance which was a HUGE buff to the pokemon. I'd also potentially give it either the Flying or Fairy secondary type and Moon Blast for extra coverage. It also used to get Tail Glow in earlier versions but either way it was super helpful!
As a wormadam enjoyer I agree they just need a base stat boost. Depending on the gen they can be taught signal beam/quiver dance, but even with that, and max ivs and ev training barely helps with such low stats overall :(
Edit3: STOP THE LUMINEON HATE. MY LUMINEON PLUSH IS LISTENING WITH ME.
As goes for any Pokémon, Lumineon thrives on a team built for it. And Lumineon is not a singles mon. I’ve got a competitive Gen6 doubles team featuring StormDrain Lumineon. The team revolves around shutting down enemy water types and enforcing the Water/Fire/Grass type triangle and playing strongly through it. Maintaining a strong focus on enemy steel/fighting types.
Even modest Lumineon outspeeds most and is an amazing setter. If my Lumineon “Kite” can catch a storm drain increase, coverage icebeam/psybeam starts hitting like a truck.
You would be smart to keep the opponent from getting a clean hit in on Lumineon, but you will be surprised the hits it tanks. My Lumineon holds a brightpowder>.< and my instaswitches are Sceptile and most fast electric types. Lumineon does not thrive in 4v4 doubles, but manages much better in the ‘switchier’ 6v6 doubles meta.
Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk
Edit2: paste from my shinyhunting notes:
Finneon:✨🔵 (alpha sapphire)
•30 eggs until 5iv modest dive ball female with modest nature
•+30 +28
•shiny dive ball finneon with swift swim (ability capsuled to storm drain) at /88 eggs/
it give kriketune a unique ability, i was thinking on diferent concepts like
"Melomaniac"
Sound based moves by this pokemon have 100% accuracy
"Duet"
In double battles, if a pokemon uses a sound base move, pokemon with ability Duet uses it as well (like oricorio)
"Grand Entrace"
The first sound based move when this pokemon enters the battle, has +1 priority
Theres a bit in my friendgroup that carnivine is the most popular pokemon so it was funny when you said its fallen through the cracks of obscurity
I love Wormadam and Mothim, nice to see someone giving them love
I'm pretty sure at some point Burmy and Wormadam were my favorite Pokemon weirdly. I still love them, but they're just not that great in battle sadly
@@PokemonWoop sadly that's true, hopefully they can get some buffs in the future. But as someone who's favorite Pokemon isn't too mainstream, I understand lol
Carnivine has a special place in my heart since I had a carnivine figurine as a kid so it featured heavily in a lot of my make believe stories even though I was never able to catch it in the great marsh.
The “Soloist” ability is a very fun idea, really enjoyed the video!
I watch a lot of poketube, but something about your videos in particular always makes me want to boot up the games within moments of starting them! I really appreciate it!
Please tell me, you'll keep the series going! I wanna see how you'd fix terrible Pokemon up to Paldea's Spidops.
If people like it a lot then yeah! I'd like to do this series for every generation!
@@PokemonWoop
If you do Alola is going to be fun, considering that even two of the starters are underwhelming in a story playtrough.
@@yurei4414 You sure? Primarina and Incineroar are perfectly fine. Only issue is Decidueye, who despite being supposidly the "fast" starter out of the three only has 10 more base speed, which puts him at a pathedic 70, with mediocre offenses and defenses and for some reason they made him mixed...
I'm surprised to hear luxray is in this video. The shinx line is downright OP in pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky, which came out just a year after platinum.
For some Pokemon I just feel like Gamefreak hates them.
Like Luxray, Kricketune, Lumineon etc.
I love Kricketune. It would be so cool to use it in Gen 9 with Technician Pin Missle with the Loaded Dice. But it doesn't even get Pin Missile. Like wth man.
I love how he uses a tourist spot from my region as a background to Luxray
Should also maybe give Kricketune Perish Song, Relic Song, Echo Voice, And also Normal typing.
Keep Luxray pure Electric-type.
Instead lean into its name and theming; give it tail glow, access to more coverage with moves like signal beam, dazzling gleam and ice beam. Swapping out Rivalry for Infiltrator (you can't hide). And finally redistribute its stats, lower its health and attack, and put those points into speed, swapping out Guts for Quick Feet in the process.
Intimidate doesn't need any attention as it's already phenomenal.
Even though a large part of me wants to see Lumineon wreck shop with a special attack buff and Tail Glow, I think it'd work better to make it a support mon. It already has some good support moves in u-turn, encore, icy wind, and tailwind; Just give it +20 to HP and +10 Special Defense, as well as access to Wish, Light Screen, and Reflect. I can imagine getting a decent amount of mileage using that version of Lumineon.
Im surprised nobody ever decides to give luxray GLARE when its whole thing is having visual powers.
only snake pokemon learn that and luxray can paralyzed already
IDK why you would ignore kricketune's intended design like that. It's a musician. In the anime, a rather powerful one too. I think any good revamped Kricketune would make it bug/normal & lean into the sound aesthetic with moves like hyper voice, bug buzz, etc. My revamped Kricketune has a spread like this: HP73, ATK75, DEF61, SPA88, SPD61, SPE75, is bug/normal to get stab from most sound moves which are normal type and a new/old ability called cacophony. It's been coded since gen 3, but never used, likely intended for loudred & exploud. All sound moves get an extra 30% chance to confuse the target. Not too busted, but works with the idea of an orchestra where you lose the individual sense of each sound as it combines together. It fits with the line's design too. I do think your fixes are otherwise pretty good, but my boy kricketune needs some love.
I used Lumineon and Mothim on a team solely because of how forgotten they are. My cousin used a Carnivine too. I think it’s fun using obscure Pokémon even though they aren’t the best in battle.
Kriketune not getting encore is a crime
Up until a few years ago, I thought that Luxray was an electric/dark type. I was honestly shocked it was a pure electric type when I played gen 4 for the first time.
Dark type literally doesnt make any sense on luxray, having X-ray vision doesnt make it "evil" and just cause it looks edgy doesnt mean its dark type.
In Gen IV, Luxray can very easily get the fangs by breeding, specifically from Hippowdon. Luxray is my go to, all purpose, type coverage Pokemon in Sinnoh playthroughs.
Why is it strange for a feline not to learn Dig? Since when do cats burrow their entire bodies into the ground?
And why would No Guard be appropriate? If Luxray can see enemies through walls, shouldn't it be BETTER at avoiding wild encounters, not worse?
Whats wild is that most of the moves he gave these mons were ones I had to go, "Wait, they didnt have that before??"
as a musician, your redesign of kricketune sounds really exciting. I would totally use it if it had those ability/stats/moves .
Just a thought I had when you mentioned that Swarm is a generic ability they give to bugs when they don't know what else to give them: Swarm itself should be reworked to function like Plus/Minus, so each pokemon on the field with Swarm buffs each other pokemon with Swarm. Mono-Bug doubles!
Did you use a slowed down version of the RE7 safe room ambiance for the carnivine section?
I used carnivine on my first ever play through of Diamond as a kid! It was one of my faves back then and I still have a soft spot for it today
Luxray should get night slash level up too, super strong STAB attack w/ high critical hit ratio
The thing that sucks about carnivine is that a Venus flytrap Pokémon could look really cool but instead they went for a really goofy design. I would’ve used one on my team if it didn’t have those weird cartoony eyes stuck weirdly on the top of its head. I hope they go back and use a flytrap as a design inspiration again and carnivine isn’t all we ever get from that
I felt bad 4 kricketune for being useless so i used it in my pokemon diamond playthrough (the new one) and i made it champion, dunno why i did this to my self lol
Carnivine should get an evolution.
Carnicrunch
Grass/Steel
Ability: Strong Jaw
HP:94
Atk:130
Def:102
Sp Atk:70
Sp Def:92
Speed:66
If you gave Carnivine Regenerator, it would be a very decent Mon! Uts move-pool lends itself well to being part of a Fire/Water/Grass defensive core with Leech Seed, Stockpile, Sleep Powder, Toxic, Synthesis, Knock Off, Gastro Acid, and Protect
Luxray's issue is it didn't get a good reprint in later gens. It's postgame locked in G5 and G6 (though would have been good to see alongside Pyroar in XY, probably was gonna be in Z), island scan in G7 and DLC in SS
I remember using a Carnivine because of a challenge of using a randomize team of the random pokemon generator for pokemon pearl, and what got me mad was not even his really low chance of appearing, and yes because of Carnivine only physical move until level 63 is VINE WHIP, not razor leaf by level up, not seed bomb, but yes, vine whip
Just for you having a idea, you main stab of vine whip goes from power whip, a diference of whopping 80 BASE POWER, a least is a mixed attacker so you can use giga drain or energy ball
I love your videos, but I never watch them late at night. If I do, I'm afraid I'll be... *checks notes* ... forever forgotten as a failure, deep in the bottom ocean of a distant planet, surrounded by the sheer emptiness of my non-existent life achievements.
When playing my Diamond and I caught a Finneon, I used my last rare candies to evolve it. I thought it would have a 3rd stage evolution and was sorely disappoint.
Well someone wasn't traumatized by Carnivine in PLA if you're calling it overlooked. Remmeber fearing for my life in that game whenever I was around one
I have an idea for a new ability of Kricketune that fits its definition a little better. Kricketune can compose melodies ad lib. To reflect this ability, I bestow Kricketune with the ability Spontaneous Melody. This ability gives Kricketune's sound based moves priority. This will allow Kricketune the chance to use Sing and Perish Song. Alternatively, it could be used to revenge kill with Bug Buzz.
Honestly Luxray's coverage is good for an electic, ice fang allows it to deal with grounds which is very rare for pure electrics.
If anything the lack of a good physical electric stab is a bigger issue
I'm part of that obscure 1% who actually had carnivine in my team throughout the whole playthrough and it was the hardest Pokemon to level up and the lowest level Pokemon by the time i reached the hall of Fame. It's speed was the worst part.
yaaaaay NEW VIDEO. THANK YOU SOO MUUCH. HOPE SCHOOLS WELL!
I wiuld love if - in addition to the level up elemental bites - Luxray could get strong jaw as an ability as well. Stab strong jaw crunch and thunder fang could make it more useful
>Luxray: Electric/Dark
Yeah, no.
With gen 9 moves like stone axe, carnivore deserves a unique move that traps or sets up leech seed when attacking
Luxray is kinda just a worse arcanine because both pokemon stats lean physical. That being said, 95 special attack is probably gonna make it so that your thunderbolts are just a better option than thunder fang. When it finally learns wild charge, then that's kinda better. However, its still a worse version of flare blitz on a type that has a liability against ground, and less super effective options.
Exactly. Like if Flare Blitz can be so accessible, let's give Volt Tackle to more physical electric types
I was wondering what you were going to cover with Luxray at first, but changing it to an Electric/Dark type or changing its moveset would honestly perfect a fairly solid Pokemon.
Hey so I'm just here to bring up a cool and neat point about Luxray. Maybe haveing a bad move pool was the way it was balanced so you would have a reason to use the more underwhelming patchirisu for its weird amount of coverage and support moves with the tms it learns. Or, Pikachu + Light orb because Its broken af but you get it a little later then the other two.
I'm just sick and tired of pokemon not having these kinds of balancing thoughts and instead just throwing 60 pokemon in the wild area it's getting really annoying.
Gen 5 Maractus, Zebstrika, Monkey Trio, Audino, Drudigon
I've always had a fascination with Gen 4 Pokemon, and how so many of them just don't live up to their hype. I've done my own tinkering with these mons myself.
Luxray - This is just the Buzz Lightyear shelf meme. Electric/Dark. Fits the aesthetic, learns Dark moves. What I don't get is why it has such a high Special Attack when it barely learns any Special moves. The extent of Luxray's Special movepool is Electric moves, Swift, Hyper Beam, Snore, Snarl, and Signal Beam and Mud Slap in older games. I'd say pull 20 out of Special Attack (95->75) and put it in Speed (70->90). Much better, but still fairly reasonable.
Lumineon - Same sorta stat buffs in mind. More Speed, more Special Attack. I wouldn't make it Water/Fairy, but I feel like its winged, butterfly-esque appearance would make Quiver Dance a fitting move for it. Like, yeah, it's still kind of a bland mono-Water type, but what other mono-Water types are pulling up and Quiver Dancing?
Wormadam - Since all three of these are Defensive mons, I feel like they should do a better job at being Defensive, by recovering HP! I'd say Recover, implying they can recover their bodies by adding more of the respective materials of their cloaks, but at the very least, Pain Split. Sticky Web for all of the forms too just to give them all something to be obnoxious with. Stat buffs for all of them, getting +20 HP, +20 for their best attacking stat (or +10 for both on Trash cloak), and +10 on their lower defensive stat (or +5 for both on Trash cloak). New secondary abilities for each of them as well. Plant cloak gets Effect Spore, since spores end up on its plant cloak material, and to punish any physical attackers preying on its lower stat. Filter for Trash cloak, as it's filtered its cloak of all of the toxic materials, and to make it more durable against Fire-types. Lastly, Sand Veil for Sand cloak, so it can cheese stall opponents in sandstorms.
Carnivine - I kinda feel like this one should be Grass/Dark, since disguising itself in order to lure in prey is a pretty underhanded and "evil" tactic. Also, it naturally learns a good amount of Dark-type moves anyway. I just think the typing is a bit too exploitable. Otherwise, same ideas as yours. More bulk and Attack, elemental fangs (though only Ice and Thunder), Poison moves, etc. Arena Trap was a cool idea I never thought of though.
Kricketune - Rather than a support mon, my idea with Kricketune was to lean into the memes. Let the mon known for "deleleleleWOOOOOOOP" scream it out to its heart's content by becoming a faster Special Attacker that learns a lot of Sound-based moves. Crickets are know for their loud chirping, after all. Metal Sound, Psychic Noise, Alluring Voice, and Vacuum Wave (since if Scyther can get it, why not give it to Kriketune) all enter its movepool. I made it into a Bug/Normal-type too, since 1) it's a unique combo, 2) it lets the nocturnal insect laugh in the face of one of the best offensive-types in Ghost, and 3) gives it STAB on its last new movepool addition, Boomburst. Now that's an early game bug that can pull its weight through a whole playthrough.
I could keep going for hours too on plenty more Sinnoh mons. Rampardos, Cherrim, Electivire, even some of the not as terribly bad ones.
Give mothim +54 in speed +10 sp. Atk and atk give mothim tailwind icy wind swords dance feather dance dragon dance water pulse and infestation instead of bug bite
Also give it wind rider
I would give Lumineon another evolution. Make it water/fire or water/fairy and make it really use it's luminescence/light with offensive attacks, maybe even its own attack.
We don't use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it the first time!
i thought we were already done with dark type luxray knowing it makes no sense
I love these videos and honestly it just makes me love Legends Arceus even more--what other game has you hiding in tall grass terrified of the cries of a Parasect or Krictetune nearby
i would personally give lumineon a secondary electric type, it's a more unique combination having just lanturn and rotom wash with the same type and would match the neon theme of the mon + swift swim 100%accurate stab thunders or hurricanes in rain would be a nice way to use it
I like a lot of what you said. Below will be some of my thoughts.
To help with Luxray, I would offer up these changes in addition to what you said:
-Rivalry should be replaced with either Strong Jaw, Tough Claws, or Compound Eyes. I agree with fellow user @TaLeng2023 with X-Ray Vision as a signature ability in place of Compound Eyes.
-I would've given it access to Flame Charge, but then Gen 9 introduced Trailblaze.
I agree with making Lumineon a Water/Fairy type. Finneon and Lumineon are among a list of Pokémon that I wish gained the Fairy typing in Gen 6.
When it comes to Wormadam, please review sites like Serebii and Bulbapedia when making these kinds of videos, as each form already has access to Giga Drain and Sucker Punch. Sandy Cloak Wormadam already had access to Earthquake, Sandstorm, and Stealth Rock. Trash Cloak Wormadam already had access to Metal Burst and Gyro Ball. The other moves you listed for Wormadam are not moves that they have been able to learn yet. I do agree with updating them with those moves. Strangely, each form share the move Quiver Dance. I also like the idea of Mothim learning Sleep Powder and replacing Swarm with Compound Eyes. Giving Wormadam the abilities Thick Fat or Magic Guard would be very interesting. It may or may not help in the lower tiers of competitive battling.
I can honestly say that I've used a Carnivine on an in-game team for either Diamond or Pearl. I forget which. I believe I was playing them before Sword & Shield came out. Here's what I'd do to help Carnivine out:
-I'd either give it the Strong Jaw ability or give it a unique ability that it would share with Bellsprout, Weepinbell, and especially Victreebel. Its name would be called Insectivore. This ability allows the user to inflict super-effective damage to Bug-type Pokemon when using biting/fang moves, Leech Life, Bug Bite, as well as Poison-type attacks.
-I would also give it access to Jaw Lock, Grassy Glide, Trailblaze, Psychic Fangs, Super Fang, Sucker Punch, Gyro Ball, Foul Play, Leaf Storm, Sludge Wave, Clear Smog, Belch, Venoshock, Terrain Pulse, Tera Blast, Grassy Terrain, Strength Sap, and Curse.
-I'm not sure if I'd give it Fire Fang Thunder Fang, given that it's a Grass type. However, Arena Trap as an ability would be pretty neat.
I agree with fellow user @shiny9690 in increasing the Special Attack stat of Kricketune as well as gifting it more sound-based moves and the Conductor ability that they designed. It would give players a reason to either run a Modest or Timid set or a mixed-attacking set, and it would work fairly well as a support-based team member.
A bit sad that Mothim is a “lost cause”. I think is because of the many bug flying types with psychic moves.
I like the Changes to Lumineon, but other thing that I consider for that line is the location
Is too late for the water fish to appear, since we have Buizel, Shellos and even an starter before it.
I would make Finneon an old rod encounter near the canalave city to make players want This early water type