GR86 + GR Corolla = Modern Celica GT4?! Toyota's SEMA 2024 Project
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Pls tell them to put the GR86 drivetrain in the GR Corolla as a "Joke" for SEMA 😂😂😂
Modern RWD drift corolla with the Initial D AE86 livery would be kinda cool tbh
That would actually be awesome 😂
Sure, everything except the flat four.
@@PiDsPagePrototypeswould be cool with the flat four if it weren’t for the problems we’ve been seeing with it on the track
@@PiDsPagePrototypesbut that's a "Joke"
I always wanted them to make the Scion TC (clearly the Celica successor of its time) into a GT4. This is like a wish come true
The only thing in common with the celica it had was that its manual and fwd. i dont think thats enough to call it a successor
It filled the same spot in the lineup as the last Celica did, being an affordable sporty-ish FWD coupe with economy car underpinnings. It was more of a spiritual successor.
the Scion TC was the successor to the last Celica, you can even see it in the styling of the TC
@@mcld4214yknow TC almost stands for something
Isn't That Dai's Fabricator, That Build The BRZ, And He Is Also On His FD Team?
I bought both for this reason and have been chatting with my buddies about the swap Toyota is only doing it Naomi can’t get a patent
Please Toyota Keep the GR86 naturally aspirated with a manual and RWD.
Next on Toyota's Radar, An all new GR Celica with a new 2.0 Turbo. This is just a preview
And it will still suck, Team Toyota is garbage right now
I’ve heard abt their new 2.0 Turbo engine. Seems promising. I hope there’s a GE N/A version that 8k capable for the next 86. I don’t think the car needs a turbo
@@VividTape Not really.
@@VividTape no they don't. the GR products have been all pretty good.
@@VividTape Toyota has always been better & Far Superior than Anything American Made.
Boot up the Saturn and pop in Sega Rally Championship.
my man
GAME OVER YEEEEEEEEAAAHH
Heck yes
This comment makes me feel so old 😂
@@d34thby1337 hahahaha best comment ever
Toyota using evasive as free R&D for the next gen gr86
Kind of a thing in the industry. There was a 370Z at SEMA that was the 3.0 TT setup before we saw the new Z. I'm sure if you look you'll find lots of other examples.
Evasive can just sell a convo kit and make huge profits from all sensible 86 owners.
Fitting, given all the evasive answers TTE gave to the FIA in 1996 regarding the former work on turbo restrictors for the St 205 WRC
Hope you are right!
Next gen86... wishful thinking, but highly doubtful
Nissan did the same thing with the now current Z. Swapping a TT VQ into the 370Z back in the day. I’m assuming Toyota initiated this project to gauge public interest on a production version.
They have my vote
How about a Celica gt4 bonnet vent on it, allowing to bulge the bonnet and give more clearance. Would be a nice nod to the old school look.
100% The hood, wide body and large rear spoiler were so signature to all the GT-Four/All-Tracs
@MaxedMirage - yes would also agree , I feel they have missed the opportunity on that aspect.
I think the word he was looking for is “Transversely” mounted.
It slipped my mind 😅
@@LarryChenPhoto most rally cars today have their engines mounted tranversely which makes sence. this car was competing against some stupid fast hatchbacks. and most rally cars now (if not all worlwide) are hatchbacks anyways
This is a step backward. Please install north south not transverse. In rally now days is transverse because of the cheap cars they are based on not because teams would not rather do north south installations.
@@Taktko why? It works as it is, and the technology is already there. The only thing they'd accomplish is increase the development time
@@TaktkoThere's nothing about a longitudinal awd drivetrain that's better than transverse. Most awd drivatrains are assymetric anyway (unless you go the Audi/Subaru route, which gives unnecessary understeer and makes the chassi longer in the front)
The only real advantage of longitudinal is the aesthetics, it "looks" better.
I have an FR-S and my co-worker just got the Corolla. We were literally talking about this like 2 days ago lol. She's gonna freak out when she sees this.
Cool 👍
Toyota please make the 3 cylinder turbo motor standard in the next gr86 !
That would be interesting
The GR86 should stay NA imho. Everything is turbo these days and its anoying.
@@xXYannuschXxi agree, its part of its charm
This is a fun little project, I can't wait to see it rip when it's finished 😎 the fact that Toyota sanctioned this is a good sign of things to come. 💯
I hope they put the GR Corolla's Triple Exhaust on it as well! it's gonna freak people out!
Toyota need to make this. They could brand it as the GR Celica 86 . Price point at $40k starting and top out at $50k?
The GR86 becomes a Corolla again.
Or a Celica GT4
Mindblowing but what a great engineswap !
Nearly all Generations of Celicas shared a lot with Corollas in general. To me makes sense if they made the Celica based off of a Corolla Coupe chassis, but restyled to look like a Celica.
Thanks for getting into weeds for us Larry, Nerd Alliance member here loving the details!
that engine rwd in the 86 would be sweet
I hope Toyota follows thru with this - you'd get my money!
Finally, a motor that fits this chassis. They should've dropped the boxer engine for the 2017 revision.
*_They better sell a base model version… 😭_*
That's the money making recipe. Three versions, base FWD model, upscaled FWD model and then the GR version AWD Turbo.
Now turn the gr corolla into a boxxer RWD, best of both worlds
This is awesome that Toyota is thinking of reviving the Celica and keeping the all-wheel drive.
That would be amazing
Watching with interest. (People have already done AWD BRZ's so cool to see what route Toyota go.... Right....off to watch video)
A gr86 altrac would be cool
My dad had a celica altrac turbo which for the st165 generation, the US market altrac turbo and the japanese gtfour were the same exact car. I think each dealer got like only 1 or 2 cars. Anyways.
The alltrac was so cool
Toyota Japan, through Rookie Racing (Akio Toyoda's own racing team), actually built a GR86 with the G16E as its engine but they put the engine longitudinally to make it RWD only and use it to race in Super Taikyu.
That is still awesome
@@CompressorSurge Here's another fun fact. Before they put the regular G16E this year, Rookie Racing used a destroked G16E (1.3L) to achieve higher RPM.
Considering there's been rumours around the next-gen 86 coming and the S-FR (Miata competitor) approved to be built after being in a concept car limbo for a while, this recent engine development is very interesting.
Larry, you need to follow this build, and make up dates vídeos,that would be cool.
Yes please
Love to see what they'll do to get the handling right with a FWD engine and trans in a pure RWD chassis
Ironically, it’s an AWD chassis, turned into a RWD chassis, being turned back into an AWD chassis.
@@DBtwoz when was the gr86 chassis awd?
@@g0dd4m_w1z4rd_m4n The front is based on Subaru GD chassis and the rear is a Subaru GR chassis.
@@DBtwoz it can be based on whatever, the chassis itself isn't awd
@@g0dd4m_w1z4rd_m4n OK, lol
Now recycle the GR86 engine, transmission and rear diff into the corolla. 😉
Recycle it into the dumpster.
Awesome project! I wish they would offer the GR86 with the GR Corolla engine as a production model. I love my GR86 but that turbo 3 cylinder is insane.
I would literally buy this in a heartbeat if they actually make one irl
I truly hope when Honda makes the next type r i hope it's awd. Preferably no hybrid but it looks like it will be hybrid. But i would still take an awd type r with rear driven by pure motors. & front is same ice.
Making the GR86 with GR Corolla engine is cool tho making such more reliable.
This guy is an absolute encyclopaedia of automotive information!! Incredible!!
This is it. This would be THE car I would trade both MR2's and my Celica for. Build it Toyota!
SW20? I wouldn’t sell my STi for this but I could use another daily 😅
Two running cars ay?🤔 Drop the drivetrain from the gr86 in the corolla hatch and make a Hachiroku tribute 💀😂 rwd GR corolla😭🤣
First awd gt86 was build 2013-2014 in Finland @ tommi mäkinen racing.
"What side does the transmission sit on?" is such a non car guy question 🤦🏽♂️
"Mounted like this... like thiiiisss (hand gestures)" That guy really knows his stuff.
he don't word good, but he build car good 👍
Yeah, it was a bit hard to watch. I know my speaking skills aren't great either, but still, lol.
Toyota please make this a real production car!
Yes!
Sign me up. Want to add the AWD GR86 next to my GRY Rallye 😊😊😊
This car will be amazing ❤
st185 owner of #69 AU delivered here for the GT4 content
It's on a Trueno edition 😢
Couldn't they do it on a regular base model?
New favorite build! I always thought Subaru wouldve done this with the STI drivetrain but this is WAY better!
Subaru been trippin’ lately 😢
Same but I thought it would be the WRX drive train
Any updates on this build? I’m curious
Toyota should make GR86 alltrac official!
I've always wanted someone to do a 2ZZGE engine swap with the 86/BRZ! Especially if it's the Lotus supercharged varient.
That would be so good!!
Hopefully it pulls through and we this engine in the GR 86!
My two racing sense. The engine being so far forward, beyond front axles, this is going to be a off balance monster.
Really Toyota.. this never occurred to you ??
gosh, this would legit be my dream car. what an awesome project. the GT-4 is one of the coolest cars of all time.
Damn Larry that is a sick build. I’m glad you got this story too.
Now that is a Toyota I'd buy today.
I wouldn’t sell my STi but I could use a second car 😂
You can't water plants with Gatorade.
Larry was not buying the idea that the hood would close 😂 Larry probably thinking of the GT4586.
Love your shows man, is nice and detailed of the topic. Is not like a 3 mins overview! ❤❤ Keep up the great work!
Agreed
Honestly the gr corolla with the boxer rwd would be a dope swap. Might as well do that also haha.
😂
The car is a Subaru/toyota, you take any panel off of these cars you’ll see a Subaru logo, not sure why people try to separate both brands so much, be grateful they still make these 12 years after they were introduced.
Agreed
Has anyone done a full awd WRX drivetrain swap into one of these before?
My thoughts exactly
Hear me out. Rwd flat 4 corolla.
I came across a 1993 Toyota Celica GT4 that was being sold for $25K here in PA., and my mouth hit the floor. 😮😮
The shop owner said it was used as a daily and a race car for Pocono Raceway. 😊
Man having Garage Yoshida completely restore his R34 GTR in response to a GR Corolla engine in a GR86: "This is my dream build".
How did Toyota give them two brand new cars and not the CAD data?
Money builds happiness 😊
31:28 the concern in your voice because GR Corollas have cooling issues 😂
Put the GR86 drivetrain on the Corolla and make hum a Drift car
Boom
Say it with me now. Eight, six.
Almost makes me wonder if Toyota, with the success of the GR86 and relative failure of BRZ sales is considering taking the GR86 in house with GR Corolla style drivetrain. I doubt it, but doing prototyping as a SEMA car would actually be very clever.
2:54 Look! They’re working so long that they’re peeing in bottles 😂🍾
18:06 My guy, You must be new to working on Subaru's and Toyotas. Thats not RANDOM at all, thats a design choice made by Toyota and Subaru to help cut costs of manufacturing parts tooling for specific parts. Look at the Subaru line up... Everything from the STI and Ascent to the lowly base model Impreza share parts and such. You can take suspension of a Forester and Lift your impreza and its bolts right up! You can also lower your Forester on more sporty Sti suspension... For a FACTORY OEM lowering kit. Nothing about this is random. Its economical planned design.
NOW, give me this with a K series Honda engine and AWD. Not a fan of the extra strung out 3 cyl.. Its been shown why, by MANY different people. Great idea, but would be better with a more "bullet proof" power plant. Why have more failure points that you need? Just build a SUPER safe and reliable k series pushing 5-600hp, more than enough. I guess with the GR engine they get the same thing they had with the Celica.. Unreliable,, but a monster.
For a second I thought this was the Assetto Corsa mod that has been our for a awhile. Cool to see that concept come to life.
I own an FRS, bought it new…couldn’t wait to get my hands on it when they first showed up. Then I heard Toyota was making the GR Yaris and I wanted one so bad…I waited. But we don’t get it. I just want the GR Yaris. I most certainly DO NOT want this GR Corrola abomination the North American market gets….I suppose I can just dream about finding a totaled Corolla and wedging the drivetrain into my beloved FRS.
Lol..come on Larry you couldn't see that motor would be mounted like a FWD car..Dead give away was it being AWD with the swap being taken from a stock US car..plus look at the frame rail modification..🤦🏽🤣🤦🏽🤣
Goshhhhhh i cant stand how many sickkkk asssss cars have become so ffffffun to watch and envy
It’s nice to still come across unique builds
It's funny that Toyota is just thinking of this.
I did this to a 91 Prelude Si 4 wheelsteer and made it all wheel drive with Hondas stock Realtme AWD system from the 97-01 Honda CRV. And it's stock looking and no cutting of the chassis at all.
This is cool, but I would just prefer the G16 mounted longitudinally and powering the rear wheels. I bought a 2017 BRZ and 2023 GR86 brand new and the only way I would get another new one is if Toyota gets cool and puts their own engine in the car.
I’m not a Toyota guy, but always liked the Celica, and this is such a MAD build !!!
I can’t wait to see the end product - especially in that click bait rally livery white/green/red graphic 😲
I have a feeling the Supra will leave in a yr or so. The GR86 will get the 1.6L with a fairly large price increase.. The Toyota SFR will be a base entry level sports car and the new MR2 will be the expensive one. Just my guess though
Now, Toyota, please toss the gutless FA and just offer a revision 2 of the smooth egg "GR" with both a proper Toyota powerplant AND an awd top-trim package.
Hey Larry, any update on this project? or is it just a 'see it at SEMA' kind of thing?
Booooooo 3cyl!! Booooo I literally don’t care if it’s lighter weight or makes 800hp with mods.
That engine should have been made with a 4th cylinder and not have manifolds integrated into the cylinder head.
The gr4 is going to be a 4 cyl
As long as it’s a turbo it’s still going to be fun
This is going to be such an exciting project.
oh no, transverse mount? But the O.G Celica was front drive. So I guess it's keeping the tradition of rally based cars.
Really inefficient! Taking two cars and making 1? They should be building an FA24 powered, RWD GR Corolla along side this build! Anyway, my GR86 is already AWD (okay, just my Forza Horizon one). Seriously though, looking forward to seeing more of this build!
Awesome project. I hope it encourages toyota to make a mounting kit for the corolla engine. However I'd like to see it remain RWD. Let the corolla/yaris keep the awd rally route.
ZN6のチーフエンジニア多田哲哉さんは
「日本のスポーツカーを駄目にしたのはターボと四駆とハイグリップタイヤ」だと言ってNA FR プリウスのタイヤを履かせたTOYOTA86を誕生させましたが、結局GR86もターボ、四駆、ハイグリップタイヤに行き着いてしまうんですね。
I really hope the upcoming Celica will be a turbo AWD monster 😁. And accessible too (price/availability)!
Anyone making engine mounts to make the g16e-gts rwd in a 86 yet? I have a gr yaris rallye in Australia. But waiting for someone to make conversion kit so I can buy a rolling 86 and new g16e-gts for it
I would love this in real life!
I believe the longitudinal mounting would be preferable, but if Toyota builds it transverse to save cost....
I'll take it
Can we drop the FA and get this engine in the GR86?
Doesn't even have to be AWD. I'd trade in my kouki tomorrow
That was the most frustrating interview with two of the least articulate people ever put in front of a camera. Either both of them can’t speak in complete sentences, or they were hungover and confused. Maybe they both had a stroke right before the cameras started rolling?
St liftback celicas/GT4 in general are mostly under the radar, cant find any aftermarkets so it makes sense that they would have to make or come up with alot.
Evasive seems like a joke of a shop. We got this shop doing the swap and cage.. taking it to a paint booth... gonna put it on the dyno.. then we do final fit and finish 🤣 They're that kid taking credit for a group project for doing nothing
Restrictor plate go brrrrrr
Love this project. So much goodness.
th-cam.com/video/SwJ7GKxXZvw/w-d-xo.html I watch this a few days ago and now I see this. Not sure if it's enough to take me away from VAG. But epic none the less.
I would of all carbon fiber a custom cockpit monocock all carbon fiber light as light could be.Full iced cooling intake cooler lines for the engine oil and transmission oil a huge radiator bigs ass donkey fans to cool the motor and make the air flow out and mini jet engines for turns and wings that help with the areo dynamics and cornering and steering.