Gymnastics Have Changed for the Better | Rio Olympics | MTV News
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- Check out how much Simone Biles & co. can do compared to their counterparts from the 50s and 60s.
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my grandma: why won't the kids get jobs nowadays
job requirements back then to now:
Haha exactly
Many jobs back then required incredible skill. Typesetting or graphic design, for instance, was done by hand, not computer.
@@MadPotty01 Now jobs just require a lot more dick sucking.
derp
Must as well launched a car to space and reinvented water.
Keeping in mind that we use the experience gained in the past to study how to improve, but also many athletes back then also had day jobs.
They have them now. The gymnastics team tends to get lots of sponsorships, but 90% of US Olympic athletes that are not students aren't able to compete full time. They put in their training after a long shift.
For everyone who doesn't know, in the older days the floors and equipment weren't nearly as "springy", so the gymnasts had to create their own power. They were better than you think.
@Clan leader Predator Yes, athletes didn't have a lot of shoe deals in those days.
I know, and there's still a lot more to modern gymnastics than "springy floors". A comparison of the stature of the athletes alone goes a long way.
But thats not biggest reason of the difference.
Now its much more competitive, the skill that nowadays athletes have now is much bigger than you think if you really thinking that the difference of now and then skill is not much. Its clear disrespectful toward now modern athletes.
@@arifigo1006 Boomers want to believe they had it harder. No use trying to convince them if they can't see it for themselves.
LOL boomers absolutely seething and coping. What about all the moves you see that don't happen on the floor? Sports, art and culture are now much more advanced than ever before. You boomers have a hard time understanding this because you want to feel superior and special.
Just watch the old ice skating, that was pretty simplistic too. But the athletes keep pushing the envelope. Imagine what they will be doing in 50 years! Quints?
They keep pushing drugs.. :)
@@shev1970 Cope
There is one guy who managed it.
Old ice skates were steel while modern ice skates are titanium or carbon fiber instead. The athletes aren't really much better. Human beings take thousands or millions of years to evolve, not 50 years.
You must've never seen ice skating in the 20th century if you think it's better now! 🤣 If you think any lame post-2000 figure skater is any good, look up Scott Hamilton. You'll poop your pants. Then start watching any other skater from the 20th century. You'll poop 'em again.
Compare MTV of the 80s/90s to the MTV now. It's not pretty.
Rip good MTV
It's hard to believe this shit and Daria came from the same network..
La la la la la
Mindless programming vs informative shorts? Older generations really hate knowledge, don't they?
Imagine how much worse it is six years later
It would be quite risky and difficult to tumble back then because the floors didn’t have springs, just wooden floor or carpet. It’s good that springs were implemented for safety reasons.
Your comment has too much common sense.
When I started competing in gymnastics, we did our routines on hardwood floors without mats.
@@lisabaltzer4190 you want a cookie for that?
@@lisabaltzer4190ouch well done … its stupid for people to be rude because if it wasnt for the older generations the evolution of today wouldnt have happened… so yeah you and the old gen deserve flowers and cookies
@@ViolaBoyd-z4f Make it a peanut butter cookie 😁.
I tell my dam coworkers not to do more than the standard or else we're screwed with more and more expectations
😂😂😂
wise words
I did like the cool elements they could do when the bars were closer together
I think they made them further away for some kind of safety issue. I do think the tricks were cool, though.
@@beaureitz7513safety is overrated
@@beaureitz7513 Broken Pelvises and cancer in later years along with turning people infertile is what I heard but I haven't looked into it.
@@ared18tThat is absolutely untrue. I was a gymnast in the 1970’s. You don’t hit the bar on your pelvis. You adjust the bars so they hit in the middle of your hip joints. If the bars are set right and you know what you are doing, it doesn’t hurt at all. Doing a back hip circle today is very similar to what it felt like to do a “cast wrap” on the close bars. I don’t know where you heard it could give you cancer. If you hit the bar where your uterus is, the bars are far too close and you wouldn’t be able to do much on them . They spread the bars farther because women wanted to do bars more similar to men and a giant swing was not possible with bars very close. You couldn’t get the momentum. P.S. I was a gymnastics coach in the 80’s. Also, the bars didn’t hurt my fertility one bit 😁.
Still can't do anything in the 1950's side :)
And then boomers say we are the crystal generation :'D
It's funny how they are coping in these comments by pretending the better moves are due to springs in the floor and that the older athletes had more "grace" because they were slower. So pathetic and bitter.
@@baab4229 And they're right. Sorry you have no taste, zoomie ))
@@poika22 it's not a taste thing they are just hard of seeing since you're so old
And yet still so boring and soulless to watch despite all your advancements in technology.
@@asturiasceltic3183 those old routines are boring. It takes more soul and hard work to do newer, difficult techniques. Go try it and see how soulless it is
For the better? More dangerous. Young gymnasts have accidents. Get paralyzed. Worth it?
The Olympics are supposed to be the best of the best, competing to break the limits of what the human animal is capable of achieving.
I sure am glad those limits aren't what I was capable of in 5th grade gym class.
This god awful royalty free generic dubstep music perfectly encapsulates people who prefer 2016.
What, you wouldn't say gymnastics has improved? I mean, they used to be very talented and skilled, but you can't say that it hasn't changed for the better.
The music is terrible and 2016 is still better lmao.
@@PoppyPostsVideos No it hasn't "improved". It has been perverted into some sort of weird acrobatics circus show.
*gymnasts now clearly more skilled and impressive*
Boomers: tHeY ArE mORe gRAcEfUl aNd sLoW
Why u mad
@@gamatus1938 cause boomers 🤮
Generations didn’t begin with Boomers. The gymnasts from the 30s-50s would be older than Boomers, they’d be from previous generations.
It would be amazing see one about rhythmic gymnastics especially because the sport has gone through a lotnof changes since 2000 and each cycle the Code of Points has have different emphasis
you cant compare the two eras because the equipment was different. the point is, modern gymnasts couldnt for instance do all those flips on an old hard floor. the past gymnasts could do more with todays bouncy floors. no one should be saying one is better than the other. its just a matter of who was best in their era.
I see old gymnastics as more about form than speed and show.
it's not about speed and show today, it's about skill and technique
@@queertype they were struggling to land what today would be simple tricks? The form is objectively much better now
The form in 2016 is way better than 1950
U just don't see the form...gotta have a crazy eye to see it. It is there though
The beam was actually way thinner. They had made it wider for today tricks.
Thats not true, now days it´s thiner.
@@TakeaNap-rr9it "Thus, it is not surprising that the beam's surface was widened from 8 to 10 cm. Its sides were slightly rounded so that the middle of the beam measured 13 cm in diameter." Plus, I watched a history of the equipment used for gymnastics. It's crazy how much it developed to make it safer in order to perform the harder tricks.
Old olympics: Elegance, style, balance
New olympics: FLIP FLIP FLIP FLIP FLIP AS FAST AS YOU CAN
nop, evolution. All is bad for the people today
+I Still Love Vista Couldn´t have said it better!!!
*_OLD GYMNASTICS: SHOES & SOX. NEW GYMNASTICS: BARE FEET. I'M A BAREFOOT GYMNAST, AND IN MY NAKED EYES, BARE FEET JUST WORKS BETTER IN GYMNASTICS! OLD GYMNASTICS WAS DULL-MINDED, BECAUSE OF THEIR SOX!_*
Old gymnastics seems to be more balancing and posing. It did require skill as you still have to be able to do all the moves.
Today's gymnastics seems to focus more on technique and skill. In order to do the more difficult moves at a faster pace requires more technique. Skills have changed and gotten more difficult over the years.
Old racing: elegance, style balance
New racing: RUN RUN RUN RUN RUN AS FAST AS YOU CAN
boomer moment
They all run so the newer can fly. Props to the one that paved the way.
The current routines are more impressive from a technical standpoint, but the older styles are slower and prettier to watch imo
Imo looks like crap. You have to be delusional.
Clearly you have no sense of grace @notsoeloquent
steroids and the equipment wasn't as springy back then
i dont know whats the point of this video comparing 50s gymnastic to now is just dump they should have make a comparaison with 80s gymnast that manage to pull off difficult skill with artisty while the material was way worse than now
Today's gymnasts are like that musician who is technically perfect but has no heart, soul, swing and groove. They are boring.
Those past moves were easier and more boring. Calling it “soul” doesn’t make it any more impressive. The hard work they do now requires more passion than people watching through a screen
@@amuroray9115 If you are into robots then you love gymnastics now. The sports official name is ARTISTIC Gymnastics. Where is the artistry?
I appreciate hard work, dedication, and passion.
People who sit behind a computer screen and talk about “soulless” generally don’t know what those are.
@@amuroray9115 And you also enjoy a lack of artistry and originality obviously. Typical
The name official name of the sport, that you obvious are oblivious to is "Artistic Gymnastics." What is the artistry. It's not there but you probably don't know what great art is since that too has been in decline the last 25 years.
Last 25 years?
You don’t need to pretend to know what art or originality actually are. Because you’re not showing that here.
Have you ever actually participated in any art form before? Playing in an Orchestra? Dance? Painting? Anything?
Or do you only watch and judge “art” through a tv monitor?
Gymnastics peaked in the between the 70's and the 90's lol.
💯 You speak the truth. Kids who weren't even alive in the 20th century are desperate to believe anything of their generation is better than before. Olympic gymnastics is now watered down to remove anything difficult so they don't have to take any risks with the points.
@@WhatDoesMyChannelNameMean I totally agree!!!
No, for the worse
boomer cope
Ovolution of the human kind ?
You're right, organized child abuse is better.
They were a lot more graceful and smooth back in the days. I miss that aspect of it. Now days you see all the gymnasts anxiously rushing through their graceful movements and putting more focus on their flips..
I agree. Looked like ballet mixed with dancing and gymnastics
I agree. Now the women's gymnastics is more like men's - just a lot of running and power flipping. No grace whatsoever. I have no interest in modern gymnastics. I find it soooo boring. Oh wow Simone biles did another flip 20 get off the ground cuz the for has springs in it! I'd love to see how she'd do with the floors they used back in the old days.
@@miracleNwonderY’all are unbelievable. The springs did not change as much as you think they did at all.
Modern gymnasts have a lot of muscle and can push themselves more than older Gymnasts(who aren’t allowed to have muscles or fat in their bodies).
Yeah, now we have Queen Aliya Mustafina. ♥
yes. love but it's a a lot safer. i mean the padding gives you more of peace of mind
There are some amazing ballet artistry and flexibility elements that is removed from modern gymnastics replaced with amazing jumps....pros and cons with old and new.
They were relaxed back then, people need to chill the fuck out and enjoy themselves, not make their sport a life or death situation.
The difference is absolutely bonkers.
I was born to be a 1950s Olympian! It's hard to believe that humans are even capable of doing what today's Olympians do.
The old style is way better.. more gracious
The old style was much easier
@@amuroray9115 Nonsense. The "old style" was as difficult for gracious, slender gymnasts without spring-loaded floors and boards and hight-tech-materials.
@@classicbird2627 routines and moves have gotten harder over the years. That’s an actual fact any gymnast can tell you.
You can appreciate the old style’s “gracious” but most of those were in far easier even with floors that weren’t spring
@@amuroray9115 Of course technically the moves have gotten more difficult. But you can't look at that isolated, you have to put that into relation to the resources a gymnast had then and has today. That makes a huge difference when it comes to the question wether the moves were "easier" for gymnasts to perform 50 years ago or not. And clearly they were not easier to perform, taking into mind the lack of resources gymnasts could resort to compared to gymnasts today.
@@classicbird2627 fair point
The key here is comparing it to the 50s and 60s. Had they gone to the 70s and 80s, they'd be making comparisons to LEGENDARY gymnasts like Nadia Comaneci and Mary Lou Retton. And call me crazy, but if Simon Biles wasn't on this year's team, I don't think the racists at MTV News would even have this video.
No. I enjoy watching the older competitions like from the 80s and 90s more than the ones we have today. Way too much jumps and sadly less artistry.
The old ones were so much more graceful ❤
It is a very different sport but that doesn't mean it's not difficult to get in. The IOC and FIG limit the amount of gymnasts that can be sent.
The world has spoken. We have real athletes now and they thicc.
Left side is before you view Keijo and right side is after.....
The left side looks like school kids playing on the playground. Who knew a lot of the kids i went to elementary school with could jave qualified for the 50s Olympics
como se llama la cancion??
wath this song??
from unprofessional point of view sure the difficulty has gone up and what the girl do is impressive, but lot of beauty and grace is lost.
Gymnastics is not about beauty. You are talking about dancing.
I LOVE the older gymnastics, primarily 70s they 90s. There were graceful dance moves involved and that was part of the appeal for me. Now the women's gymnastics is more like the men's - just a lot of running and power flipping. No grace whatsoever. I have no interest in modern gymnastics. I find it soooo boring. Oh wow Simone biles did another flip 20 feet off the ground cuz the floor has springs in it! I'd love to see how she'd do with the floors they used back in the old days.
Older ones being Grace seems like an excuse. The moves were more boring and basic in the past
Try imagining some of those 70’s gymnasts doing Simon Bike’s moves on a springy floor.
Most of them would fail.
That’s such a lie, especially when the 1970s was super dangerous and yet the women made such beautiful and insane performance. Have the 50s back!
Old gymnastics was WAY better just the clips are really bad
Wait, no that’s not how it was the 2016 was right but 1950 was wrong. They did much better.
Who is the first performer on the right side? That was amazing.
Looked like Aly Raisman
The comments in video is derespect to first athletes!
In some events the 70s women were better than today, same with the men's, mostly because of anbolics and fear.
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0:24 1960s - Vera Caslavska 2016 - Simone Biles.
Only to some people mtv.
Both are good for different reasons.
Back in the day there was elegance.
That lady in the 60’s ate though
Nadia Comaneci, Olga Korbut….. were half age than nowadays
yeah, but that was in the 70´s.
yo who was the dude in black and white
So the floor got way more bouncy?
It’s really not that bouncy at all. What happened is modern American gymnasts built more muscles, especially on their legs. Back then Gymnasts weren’t aloud to have as much muscle, especially Eastern European gymnasts.
Guys, guys, you need to understand that nothing at all has happened in gymnastics since the 1950's because there were no poc and in the sport!!
0:35 - Features an Asian woman.
Gymnastics haven't "changed for the better", but for the worse. There has never been so little art and elegance in artistic gymnastics. I miss the times when there was less of a jumpin festival with all those pumped up stumps but more of the beauty, grace and expression of the earlier days. I love to watch the Caslavskas, Korbuts and Tourishchevas, and I turn the TV off when I see these Biles', Lees and Andrades of today's gymnastics.
I can’t imagine how much hard work gymnasts put into their craft only to hear someone cry about “lack of elegance”.
It’s people that don’t know the effort required who are the most vocal
@@amuroray9115 Well - that's the difference between artistic gymnastics and acrobatics. I don't watch artistic gymnastics to see "hard work". I watch it to see beauty and elegance in strength. I watch it to see elegant yet strong young ladies, not pumped up power machines that look like midgets. And believe it or not - artistic gymnasts some 50 years ago did as much hard work to become masters of their craft. They just set different priorities. Priorities that focused on what I think should be the essence of artistic gymnastics: expressing yourself through sportive art. That's my opinion. Like it or leave it.
Alright. I’ll respect that opinion. Have a good day.
@@amuroray9115 Thanks, same to you.
Whats the song?
Wow. The first video MTV News has made that makes a good point. Congratulations,people!
Sorry, it's not about color, in the 50's didn't have many examples of black people in the gymnastics, and I didn't see the ethical issue in the video. The pre concept is in you and your "politically correct" way. Is about EVOLUTION !
my only achievement is i could be in the olympics for gymnastics in the 50s
This is because back then you had to be an adult or rather the participants were post-puberty. The people winning medals now are children / pre-puberty or at least not through puberty. That is why their bodies move faster.
Yes, definitely Rebeca Andrade, Raisman, Carey, Biles, Douglas, Melnikova and others are nowhere near puberty 😝
@@marwahussein666 They have stunted growth.
Yes but that doesn't stop them from aging. @@snapplegu6100
This is false, back then they weren’t allowed to make it to adulthood and continue Gymnastics. It was nearly impossible.
Simone is well into her late 20’s and still competing.
@@capeverdeanprincess4444 That's not false, it's as rare today as it was then but there have been older gymnasts than Wario Simone. Sorry, she doesn't have a claim on that either.
Millennials vs Boomers.
*_I'm a white BAREFOOT gymnast, and in MY naked eyes, millennials > boomers_*
I couldn't even do any of the 1950s stuff, though. But yeah, some of the old-timey stuff is pretty lame just to watch. That vault was crap.
I don’t know much about vaults but that lady somersaulted with straight legs with only one hand for support. I’ve fallen walking a straight line twice today... I’m hella impressed...
Don’t have to be so rude
I actually find the old bar routines more impressive just because they aren’t using momentum and physics to keep themselves going.. they would hold handstands on those bars for so long back in the day
Using momentum to flip around the bars is far harder than holding yourself up.
gymnasts are meant to be graceful
simone is good but she stomps around like a fucking wildebeest
a "wildebeest" that won 3 gold medals in gymnastics...? k
yea,that's why i said she was good
the "stomping" pretty much true of all modern gymnast,she's just the only one on the video
420420KAT she's not the only one they showed... did you watch the video?
+will oh my goodness they showed one other person for like 2 seconds wow that's so amazing
You obviously know nothing about gymnastics people in gymnastics have different strengths she's a power gymnast like Shawn Johnson but there are more graceful gymnast like nastia liukin people have presences you like more graceful gymnast that's fine but that doesn't mean to go and insult everyone who does not fit in that's box
Simone Biles fantastic performance has been covered by many news outlets for her achievement alone, and yes, gymnastics has come a long compared to that old footage.
But that's not the point MTV is making, is it? wink wink.
they don't even use simone for all of them sit down
+will oh my goodness simpne is missing from one two second clip your conspiracy has been debunked conservatives go home now.
OH MY GOD
60 YEARS PASSED
so forced it hurts
Grace vs Steroids!
@Musa Cem DEMİR Cause i dont want to die at 40 from organ failure!
Boomer cope
That soundtrack is very disturbing!
Evolution is a beautiful thing.
this is the perfect analogy to boomers saying "I was able to afford a house at your age, this generation is just lazy"
This is worse than buzzfeed.
*_I'm a gymnast, and in MY naked eyes :), YES! GYMNASTICS IS FAR BETTER TODAY! IT'S ALSO SMARTER NOW: THOSE OLDER CLIPS SHOW THE GYMNASTS WEARING SHOES & SOX! THAT'S DUMB! I ALWAYS DO GYMNASTICS WITH BARE FEET, THE BETTER & MODERN WAY! SIMONE IS VERY SMART TO NOT WEAR SHOES OR SOX!_*
Wonder if they woulda made this video if the US gymnastics stars were white...
what??
@@julieannanderson2228 Without a doubt, today’s gymnasts are in every way more capable than previous generations. But MTV is a blatantly anti-white outlet and would never make a package like this if the prominent gymnasts of today were white or if the races were reversed. MTV doesn’t give a shit about gymnasts; they care about shaping and manipulating the culture in ways that have received a lot of pushback from reasonable people.
@@streetlightnsuchAly Raisman is white and American and she’s in the clip 😂. Your point??
Some in the comments like the good old days too. Put down your cell phone and go back to your rotary phone then.
1960 gymnastics: men and women gymnastics
Modern gymnastics: men and short men gymnastics
didn't get it! there are still graceful gymnasts out there! they just don't get publicity! I did gymnastics and a lot of training was like doing ballet. Just because it is not the style of the simone biles, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist!
Real question is, which one would you rather take home and marry?
Gross old pervert. Women deserve better than some guy ogling them when they're working.
No, it isn't. It's sport, stop degrading women who are more talented then you could ever imagine of being.
why does this have dislikes lmao?? they used simone bc she won gold and she's like the best in the US... y'all reaching for shit just to drag mtv lmao get a life
MTV does realize there wouldn't be a Simon Biles without those ladies in the 50s & 60s paving the way right? Just like there wouldn't be a Tom Brady if there wasn't a Johnny Unitas.
They were just showing the evolution. Like everything, as the sport develops, the skills become faster and more complex.
youre upset over what lol, you folks are weird .